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impl_profile' data-index='5' data-id='1905236558120178042'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/A01B01D01' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">おにおこぜ</strong> <span class="status_name">@A01B01D01</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/mink_3n93" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@mink_3n93</a> ホームドアって1つが数百キロあるので簡単にポン付けでつけられるもんではないです。一瞬荷重がかかるなら別ですが、継続的に荷重がかかり続けるので基礎からやりかえないとダメなので、列車本数多いとこはチマチマやるしか。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/A01B01D01/status/1905236558120178042" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-27 21:32:47</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='6' data-id='1905230838683607349'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/xiaolinwan92655' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="9" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">あかさたな</strong> <span class="status_name">@xiaolinwan92655</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>昔からある駅ホームは基本人が歩くところであり、ホームドアとか重量があるものを設置する想定をしていないため強度が弱いのでその補強工事を実施している。 <a href="https://t.co/PzRfLKvRB2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/mink_3n93/stat…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/xiaolinwan92655/status/1905230838683607349" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-27 21:10:04</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="7"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h3 class="md-h-2" data-h-index="0">新宿駅ほどのターミナルにホームドアがない事情</h3> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='8' data-id='1905248507092754900'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/hitsuzendesu' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="10" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">杉本倉規/ながちぇ/Ku_Lucky /保育コーディネーター</strong> <span class="status_name">@hitsuzendesu</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>こういう事情があったのね、、、<span class="f17 c16"> どうして新宿駅全然ホームドア設置されないのだろうかと不思議に思ってはいたから納得 </span><a href="https://t.co/KAfYJ2NAp1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/mink_3n93/stat…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/hitsuzendesu/status/1905248507092754900" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-27 22:20:16</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='9' data-id='1905245178233057588'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/Yama01706' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="11" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Landman@└|∵|┐はもう20歳</strong> <span class="status_name">@Yama01706</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>渋谷と新宿は駅改良工事の関係で（前者は島の形がまるっきり変わる）後回しって認識だったけど新宿ってそんなに脆かったのかしかし他の駅の地盤改良に比べて時間がかかっているのは傍で色々やってる関係なのかどうか <a href="https://t.co/6w6fcxY83P" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/mink_3n93/stat…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/Yama01706/status/1905245178233057588" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-27 22:07:02</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='10' data-id='1905276271959093638'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kagenotobira' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="12" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">かげのとびら</strong> <span class="status_name">@kagenotobira</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>新規で作るならともかく、既設のしかも一日300万人近くが使うとか、相当面倒な工事になるわい。 <a href="https://t.co/I9TTZwj3gb" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/mink_3n93/stat…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kagenotobira/status/1905276271959093638" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-28 00:10:36</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='11' data-id='1905334066934919604'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/wintyan21325' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="13" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">❅𝓦𝓲𝓷𝓰.𝓐𝓴𝓲❅</strong> <span class="status_name">@wintyan21325</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c16">1日夜中の2時間〜3時間で工事してるけどマイクラみたいに出来るわけねぇからな</span> それにあんな古い規格の駅で仮にホームドア付けれたとしても、大勢の利用客の体重合わせたら必ず崩壊するから <a href="https://t.co/xlRzx4N5Vn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/mink_3n93/stat…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/wintyan21325/status/1905334066934919604" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-28 04:00:15</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='12' data-id='1905249025273823452'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/Makoto1987' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="14" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Makoto⊿🍇 (横浜①②③有明①②千葉①②)</strong> <span class="status_name">@Makoto1987</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>新宿駅に関しては、地下を掘って新しく通路を作ってるからな… ホームドアの設置にはホームの補強が必要なのは事実だけど、ホームドアを設置するだけならここまで大規模にやる必要はないはず。 <a href="https://t.co/BfB9Ce4Tcv" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/mink_3n93/stat…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/Makoto1987/status/1905249025273823452" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-03-27 22:22:20</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="13"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h3 class="md-h-2" data-h-index="0">ホームドア設置には相応の条件がいるのか</h3> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet 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