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class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Comparison of electronic memory types</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Common-mode-choke.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Common-mode-choke.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Common-mode-choke.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Common-mode-choke.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AZUSA_radar_schematics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AZUSA_radar_schematics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>AZUSA radar schematics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AZUSA_radar_schematics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Frances_Hugle" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Frances_Hugle"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Frances Hugle</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Frances_Hugle-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Flowing_flow_of_charge" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Flowing_flow_of_charge"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Flowing flow of charge</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Flowing_flow_of_charge-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Microhip and IC Category merge proposal at Commons</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Request for comments: Establish standards for version history tables in software articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Crystal_oscillator" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Crystal_oscillator"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Crystal oscillator</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Crystal_oscillator-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Electronics_terminology" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Electronics_terminology"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Category:Electronics terminology</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Electronics_terminology-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Integrated_circuit_inventor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Integrated_circuit_inventor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Integrated circuit inventor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Integrated_circuit_inventor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Amplifier_organization" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Amplifier_organization"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Amplifier organization</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Amplifier_organization-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Development of <b>Electric double-layer capacitor</b> to <b>Supercapacitor</b></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Official ASTEP logo.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>8031/8051: 1-bit architecture?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">22 comments</span> <ul id="toc-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>One of your project's articles has been featured</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-EarlyTeslaCoil.PNG" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#EarlyTeslaCoil.PNG"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>EarlyTeslaCoil.PNG</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-EarlyTeslaCoil.PNG-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pentagrid_converter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pentagrid_converter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Pentagrid converter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Pentagrid_converter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Cue_sheet"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Cue_sheet""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>"Cue sheet"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-"Cue_sheet"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IXI.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IXI.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>IXI.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-IXI.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>File:IXI sketch 2.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Compact Cassette Logo.svg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_help_from_AfC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_help_from_AfC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Request for help from AfC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_help_from_AfC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-LED_Tube_lights" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#LED_Tube_lights"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>LED Tube lights</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-LED_Tube_lights-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:Motorola-A1600.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>File:Motorola-A1600.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_Cellular_devices" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_Cellular_devices"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>WikiProject Cellular devices</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_Cellular_devices-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Jacque Fresco - 3D Projector.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Waveguide_filter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Waveguide_filter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Waveguide filter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Waveguide_filter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-My_missing_topics_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#My_missing_topics_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>My missing topics pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-My_missing_topics_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Waveguide_filter_again" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Waveguide_filter_again"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Waveguide filter again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Waveguide_filter_again-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Portal:Technology for featured candidacy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Requested_Articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Requested_Articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Requested Articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Requested_Articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Usage of {{Semiconductor packages}} on articles unrelated to packaging</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">12 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Review_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Review_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Review request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Review_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Advice and any initiative would be considered helpful: Fault current limiter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Passing_along_some_info" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Passing_along_some_info"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Passing along some info</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Passing_along_some_info-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AfC_submission" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AfC_submission"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>AfC submission</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AfC_submission-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notifying_of_relevant_FAR"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Notifying of relevant FAR</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Electromagnetic_coil" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Electromagnetic_coil"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Electromagnetic coil</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Electromagnetic_coil-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wave_Modulation_(WAM)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Wave Modulation (WAM)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Merge Wireless signal jammer into Radio jamming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AC/DC_(electricity)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AC/DC_(electricity)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>AC/DC (electricity)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AC/DC_(electricity)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RFC_needs_outside_comment._`"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>RFC needs outside comment. `</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Leaflet For Wikiproject Electronics At Wikimania 2014</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AfC_submission_-_11/06" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AfC_submission_-_11/06"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>AfC submission - 11/06</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AfC_submission_-_11/06-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Leaflet For Wikiproject Electronics At Wikimania 2014(updated version)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AfC_Submission_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AfC_Submission_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>AfC Submission</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AfC_Submission_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-no_cross-wiring_article?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#no_cross-wiring_article?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>no cross-wiring article?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-no_cross-wiring_article?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-4:3_?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#4:3_?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>4:3 ?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-4:3_?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Diode_logic" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Diode_logic"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Diode logic</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Diode_logic-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>One of your project's articles has been featured</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Jack_Wayman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Jack_Wayman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Jack Wayman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Jack_Wayman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Comment on the WikiProject X proposal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Edit conflict on Wireless power</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Boxcar Averagers</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>A draft at AFC needs help.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_X_is_live!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_X_is_live!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>WikiProject X is live!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_X_is_live!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pull-up_resistor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pull-up_resistor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Pull-up resistor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Pull-up_resistor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span><span>{{</span>Electronics industry in the United States<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pulsed_field_magnet" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pulsed_field_magnet"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Pulsed field magnet</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Pulsed_field_magnet-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Crosstalk"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Crosstalk""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>"Crosstalk"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-"Crosstalk"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Gain listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>Crocodile clip listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Misleading definition: reconvergent fan-out</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Nexus 7 (2012 version) listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>ThinkPad 10 listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>Are crystal oscillators fixed-frequency oscillators?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removal_of_digital_signal_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Removal_of_digital_signal_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Removal of digital signal article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Removal_of_digital_signal_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Seeking Help with Talk:Roku#RfC: Should the Feature comparison table be restored?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lightbulb_socket" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lightbulb_socket"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Lightbulb socket</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Lightbulb_socket-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Lightbulb socket listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>Grants:IEG/Wikipedia likes Galactic Exploration for Posterity 2015</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>Radio (receiver) listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>Radio receiver listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_Optics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_Optics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>WikiProject Optics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_Optics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>Wikipedia:WikiProject Optics listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Casio_fx-991ES_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Casio_fx-991ES_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Casio fx-991ES listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Casio_fx-991ES_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Peer_review_for_Light-emitting_diode" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Peer_review_for_Light-emitting_diode"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>Peer review for Light-emitting diode</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Peer_review_for_Light-emitting_diode-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Thermal_Management"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Thermal_Management""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>"Thermal Management"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-"Thermal_Management"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Thermal management of electronic devices and systems listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Welcome_new_user" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Welcome_new_user"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Welcome new user</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Welcome_new_user-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>X (incubator) listed at Requested moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Article_alerts" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Article_alerts"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Article alerts</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Article_alerts-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Category:Optical devices and Category:Optical instruments</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ignition_systems" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ignition_systems"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>Ignition systems</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Ignition_systems-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-S-Bus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#S-Bus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>S-Bus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-S-Bus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>Test engineer needs review and content editing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Redirect_of_CAD" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Redirect_of_CAD"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>Redirect of CAD</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Redirect_of_CAD-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Möbius_resistor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Möbius_resistor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>Möbius resistor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Möbius_resistor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sources_on_Hakko" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sources_on_Hakko"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>Sources on Hakko</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sources_on_Hakko-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Missing_topics_list" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Missing_topics_list"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Missing topics list</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_5" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics/Archive 5">Archive 5</a></td><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 6</a></span></td><td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_7" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics/Archive 7">Archive 7</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Drawing_circuits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Drawing_circuits-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Drawing_circuits-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z"></span>Drawing circuits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Drawing_circuits-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trevj-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z-Drawing_circuits"></span>Hi. I noticed the mention at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELEC#Drawing_circuits" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELEC">WP:ELEC#Drawing circuits</a> of vector graphics and Acorn Computers. <i>Draw</i> on its own wouldn't satisfy the criteria, which is presumably why it's not listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Electronics/Programs" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronics/Programs">WP:WikiProject Electronics/Programs</a>. But now there is cheap ARM hardware available (especially the imminent <a href="/wiki/Raspberry_Pi" title="Raspberry Pi">Raspberry Pi</a>) perhaps some programmers around here with (with plenty of free time) might fancy writing something suitable to interface with <i>Draw</i>! Just a thought! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- <a href="/wiki/User:Trevj#top" title="User:Trevj">Trevj</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trevj#top" title="User talk:Trevj">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Trevj-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z-Drawing_circuits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trevj-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z-Drawing_circuits"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trevj-2011-12-02T22:36:00.000Z-Drawing_circuits"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_for_correction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_for_correction-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_for_correction-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z"></span>Help for correction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_for_correction-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><b><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z-Help_for_correction"></span>Copied from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Help_for_correction" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">Wikipedia:Help desk#Help for correction</a></small></b></dd></dl> <p>I wrote a detailed article about “Dielectric absorption”, please see under <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Elcap/Dielectric_absorption&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Elcap/Dielectric absorption (page does not exist)">User:Elcap/Dielectric absorption</a> This article was translated from German, but I am not an expert of the English language. If someone please can help and correct my mistakes I would be very glad. --<a href="/wiki/User:Elcap" title="User:Elcap">Elcap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elcap" title="User talk:Elcap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z-Help_for_correction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z-Help_for_correction"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z-Help_for_correction"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2012-01-23T17:42:00.000Z-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z"></span>I will take a look at this. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2012-01-23T17:42:00.000Z-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2012-01-23T17:42:00.000Z-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2012-01-23T17:42:00.000Z-Elcap-2012-01-23T15:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Audio_electronics_redirect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Audio_electronics_redirect-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Audio_electronics_redirect-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z"></span>Audio electronics redirect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Audio_electronics_redirect-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z-Audio_electronics_redirect"></span>I just noticed that <a href="/wiki/Audio_electronics" class="mw-redirect" title="Audio electronics">audio electronics</a> has been redirected to <a href="/wiki/Audio_engineering" class="mw-redirect" title="Audio engineering">audio engineering</a> since 2008. This is highly inappropriate, but understandable for anyone not aware of what audio engineers actually do, so I have reverted it to its pre-redirect state. </p><p>That is a long time to go undetected for such a key article. Could a few more people put it on their watchlists? Or even improve it - it is in a very poor state. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z-Audio_electronics_redirect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z-Audio_electronics_redirect"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z-Audio_electronics_redirect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z"></span>I would like to volunteer to improve the <a href="/wiki/Audio_electronics" class="mw-redirect" title="Audio electronics">audio electronics</a> article. I'm pretty much a noob with the whole "editing Wikipedia" thing, but I spend a lot of time on here, and I actually have an assignment for a college course that requires me to make needed improvements to an article. I wouldn't consider myself and "expert", but I think I am fairly knowledgeable on the subject, as it is closely related to my field of study (electrical engineering) and hobbies I pursue as well. I already have a better definition worked out and was planning on adding some more detail to the subject as a whole. I just wanted to see if that was alright with people involved in the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikiproject_electronics&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikiproject electronics (page does not exist)">electronics Wikiproject</a> if I took a shot at this. Also, I'm not entirely sure if I am posting this in the right place, so I will also put this in the talk page of the actual article as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Cp99-NJITWILL" title="User:Cp99-NJITWILL">Cp99-NJITWILL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cp99-NJITWILL" title="User talk:Cp99-NJITWILL">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-03-01T16:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z"></span>You don't need anyone's permission, just get stuck in. Welcome to Wikipedia! Other editors can change things they don't like. When you have it in a decent state, you can ask someone else to review it. If you can expand it five times in less than five days from your first edit to the article then you can submit it to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">DYK</a> and get it mentioned on the front page. You can also submit it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAN">WP:GAN</a> and get it recognised as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">Good Article</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-01T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-02T14:57:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z"></span>Oh, ok. I'll give it a shot then. --<a href="/wiki/User:Cp99-NJITWILL" title="User:Cp99-NJITWILL">Cp99-NJITWILL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cp99-NJITWILL" title="User talk:Cp99-NJITWILL">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-02T14:57:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-02T14:57:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cp99-NJITWILL-2012-05-02T14:57:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-05-01T22:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z"></span>New article and category - Electronics industry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alan_Liefting-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Electronics_industry" title="Electronics industry">Electronics industry</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Electronics_industry" title="Category:Electronics industry">Category:Electronics industry</a>. Could do with some work. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Alan_Liefting" title="User:Alan Liefting">Alan Liefting</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alan_Liefting" title="User talk:Alan Liefting">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Alan_Liefting" title="Special:Contributions/Alan Liefting">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Alan_Liefting-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alan_Liefting-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alan_Liefting-2012-03-12T22:39:00.000Z-New_article_and_category_-_Electronics_industry"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Film_capacitor,_need_of_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z"><span id="Film_capacitor.2C_need_of_help"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z"></span>Film capacitor, need of help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elcap-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help"></span>Hi, in the English Wikipedia I had missed an article about “Film capacitors”. This very important electronic components is it worth to describe, see <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Elcap/Film_capacitor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Elcap/Film capacitor (page does not exist)">User:Elcap/Film capacitor</a>. Because I was the main author for the German article I tried it with a translation from the German Wikipedia article ([<a class="external autonumber" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunststoff-Folienkondensator">[1]</a>]). During translation I found a lot of new links and new informations so that the new written English version is not a one by one translation. But; the translator, Elcap, a little bit older expert of capacitors is not an expert of the English language, so I am asking for help in grammar, wordings and so on. Editors may wish to consult the parallel German article to clear up any remaining points of confusion, or to import more-recent improvements from there. If anyone can help i would be very glad. --<a href="/wiki/User:Elcap" title="User:Elcap">Elcap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elcap" title="User talk:Elcap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Elcap-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elcap-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elcap-2012-03-21T01:56:00.000Z-Film_capacitor,_need_of_help"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Electrical Engineering<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering"></span>FYI, there's a new wikiproject proposal, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Electrical_Engineering" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Electrical Engineering">Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Electrical Engineering</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.24.248.211" title="Special:Contributions/70.24.248.211">70.24.248.211</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.24.248.211" title="User talk:70.24.248.211">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 12 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_Electrical_Engineering"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.49.127.65-2012-07-07T07:13:00.000Z-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Started as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Electrical_engineering" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Electrical engineering">WP:WikiProject Electrical engineering</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.49.127.65" title="Special:Contributions/70.49.127.65">70.49.127.65</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.49.127.65" title="User talk:70.49.127.65">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.49.127.65-2012-07-07T07:13:00.000Z-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 7 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.49.127.65-2012-07-07T07:13:00.000Z-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.49.127.65-2012-07-07T07:13:00.000Z-70.24.248.211-2012-04-12T08:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z"><span id="Inverter_versus_NOT_gate.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z"></span>Inverter versus NOT gate?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?"></span>It looks like the article <a href="/wiki/Inverter_(logic_gate)" title="Inverter (logic gate)">Inverter (logic gate)</a> might be moved to <a href="/wiki/NOT_gate" class="mw-redirect" title="NOT gate">NOT gate</a> by some people who were pissed off about moving <a href="/wiki/Inverter_(electrical)" class="mw-redirect" title="Inverter (electrical)">Inverter (electrical)</a> to <a href="/wiki/Power_inverter" title="Power inverter">Power inverter</a> instead of making it a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC">WP:PRIMARYTOPIC</a>. If you care one way or the other, comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Inverter_(logic_gate)#Requested_move" title="Talk:Inverter (logic gate)">Talk:Inverter (logic gate)#Requested move</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dicklyon-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2012-04-16T17:05:00.000Z-Inverter_versus_NOT_gate?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Positive_feedback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Positive_feedback-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Positive_feedback-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z"></span>Positive feedback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Positive_feedback-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z-Positive_feedback"></span>I'm going to add the project template to <a href="/wiki/Positive_feedback" title="Positive feedback">Positive feedback</a>. The discusstion there could benefit from more people who understand this stuff. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dicklyon-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z-Positive_feedback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z-Positive_feedback"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2012-06-15T04:59:00.000Z-Positive_feedback"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z"></span>Comparison of electronic memory types<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-68.173.113.106-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types"></span>We ought to have a <a href="/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Comparison of electronic memory types (page does not exist)">comparison of electronic memory types</a> article. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.173.113.106" title="Special:Contributions/68.173.113.106">68.173.113.106</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:68.173.113.106" title="User talk:68.173.113.106">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-68.173.113.106-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-68.173.113.106-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-68.173.113.106-2012-07-06T19:17:00.000Z-Comparison_of_electronic_memory_types"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Common-mode-choke.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Common-mode-choke.png-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Common-mode-choke.png-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span>Common-mode-choke.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Common-mode-choke.png-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Common-mode-choke.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Common-mode-choke.png (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Common-mode-choke.png"></span>file:Common-mode-choke.png</a> is in cleanup categories for missing source and missing author information. I don't suppose someone knows, would they? -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.128.252" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.128.252">76.65.128.252</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.128.252" title="User talk:76.65.128.252">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Common-mode-choke.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Common-mode-choke.png"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z-Common-mode-choke.png"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span>Only the uploader can answer that - have you asked them? Anyway, it is easily replaceable, even if it has to be redrawn from scratch. I made a similar diagram (<a href="/wiki/File:Phantom_flux.svg" title="File:Phantom flux.svg">File:Phantom flux.svg</a>) for <a href="/wiki/Phantom_circuit" title="Phantom circuit">phantom circuit</a>. Will that do, what do you need it for? <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 2 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z-76.65.128.252-2012-09-02T15:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-03T06:07:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z"></span>The uploader hasn't edited since May, so I didn't ask yet, there's already a query on his talk page. I figured a quicker response might come from the project. As for what it might be used for, it's currently illustrating <a href="/wiki/Choke_(electronics)" title="Choke (electronics)">Choke (electronics)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.128.252" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.128.252">76.65.128.252</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.128.252" title="User talk:76.65.128.252">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-03T06:07:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-03T06:07:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.128.252-2012-09-03T06:07:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2012-09-02T17:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AZUSA_radar_schematics" data-mw-thread-id="h-AZUSA_radar_schematics-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AZUSA_radar_schematics-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z"></span>AZUSA radar schematics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AZUSA_radar_schematics-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/File:AZUSA-transponder.png" title="File:AZUSA-transponder.png"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.131.248-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z-AZUSA_radar_schematics"></span>File:AZUSA-transponder.png</a> and <a href="/wiki/File:AZUSA-MarkII.png" title="File:AZUSA-MarkII.png">File:AZUSA-MarkII.png</a> have been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.131.248" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.131.248">76.65.131.248</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.131.248" title="User talk:76.65.131.248">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.131.248-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z-AZUSA_radar_schematics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.131.248-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z-AZUSA_radar_schematics"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.131.248-2012-09-08T06:04:00.000Z-AZUSA_radar_schematics"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Frances_Hugle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Frances_Hugle-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Frances_Hugle-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Frances_Hugle" title="Frances Hugle">Frances Hugle</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Frances_Hugle-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dcshank-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z-Frances_Hugle"></span>There is a discussion and request for input regarding retaining or merging the above article at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PM">WP:PM</a>. Input from this project is appreciated on the <a href="/wiki/Frances_Hugle" title="Frances Hugle">comment page</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dcshank" title="User talk:Dcshank"><span style="color:rgb(60,200,200);font-weight:bold;"> :- ) Don</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dcshank-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z-Frances_Hugle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 17 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dcshank-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z-Frances_Hugle"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dcshank-2012-10-17T21:27:00.000Z-Frances_Hugle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Flowing_flow_of_charge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flowing_flow_of_charge"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flowing_flow_of_charge"></span>Flowing flow of charge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flowing_flow_of_charge"></span></h2></div> <p>Hi. In the article <a href="/wiki/Transistor" title="Transistor">Transistor</a> the text talks about current as a thing that flows. (For example in the third sentence: "...changes the current flowing through another pair of terminals"). But this is incorrect off course. Electric current is moving/flowing charge. So the current itself can't really flow. I know this mistake is really common(It is included in books in electronics and physics), so I'm in doubt whether you people(the ones involved in maintaining and creating articles about electronics) would thing it's OK for me to "fix" these mistakes. For example, the quoted sentence would become "...changes the current through another pair of terminals". I can understand if people think it's better to just leave it as it is, to prevent confusion and/or inconsistency. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Defusix&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Defusix (page does not exist)">defusix</a></span> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Defusixj&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Defusixj (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 11:35, 27 October 2012 (GMT+1) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons" data-mw-thread-id="h-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z"></span>Microhip and IC Category merge proposal at Commons<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ubcule-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons"></span>Hi there, </p><p>Apologies if this is slightly offtopic at Wikipedia, but I'd be grateful if some of you could contribute your thoughts to the proposed merge of the "Microchips" and "Integrated circuits" categories on <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Microchips">the discussion at Wikimedia Commons</a>]. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Ubcule" title="User:Ubcule">Ubcule</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ubcule" title="User talk:Ubcule">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Ubcule-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 11 November 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ubcule-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ubcule-2012-11-11T15:02:00.000Z-Microhip_and_IC_Category_merge_proposal_at_Commons"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z"></span>Request for comments: Establish standards for version history tables in software articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jesus_Presley-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software"></span>I'd like to introduce the <a href="/wiki/Template:Version" title="Template:Version">Template:Version</a> template to Wikipedia with the goal to establish one standard for version history tables (or lists). It simplifies creation of release histories, standardizes release stages and makes the content more accessible. </p><p>Please comment on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Version" title="Template talk:Version">template talk page</a> (there already is some discussion). Thanks for your participation --<a href="/wiki/User:Jesus_Presley" title="User:Jesus Presley">Jesus Presley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jesus_Presley" title="User talk:Jesus Presley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Jesus_Presley-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jesus_Presley-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jesus_Presley-2012-11-28T01:54:00.000Z-Request_for_comments:_Establish_standards_for_version_history_tables_in_software"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Crystal_oscillator" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crystal_oscillator-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crystal_oscillator-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Crystal_oscillator" title="Crystal oscillator">Crystal oscillator</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crystal_oscillator-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetvorno-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z-Crystal_oscillator"></span>There's a page move proposal on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Crystal_oscillator" title="Talk:Crystal oscillator">Talk:Crystal oscillator</a> that could benefit from some advice. The terms used in electronics for a piezoelectric resonator, "<a href="/wiki/Crystal" title="Crystal">crystal</a>" or "<a href="/wiki/Quartz_crystal" class="mw-redirect" title="Quartz crystal">quartz crystal</a>", have other meanings in general usage, so the <a href="/wiki/Crystal_oscillator" title="Crystal oscillator">Crystal oscillator</a> page has become a "quartz crystal" page. However the term "crystal oscillator" refers to the circuit, not the resonator crystal itself. Should content on quartz and other electronic crystals be move to a new <a href="/wiki/Piezoelectric_resonator" class="mw-disambig" title="Piezoelectric resonator">Piezoelectric resonator</a> page? Anyone that wants to drop by and express an opinion is welcome. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chetvorno" title="User:Chetvorno"><span style="color:blue;">Chetvorno</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetvorno" title="User talk:Chetvorno"><i style="color:purple; font-size:smaller;">TALK</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Chetvorno-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z-Crystal_oscillator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:47, 2 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetvorno-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z-Crystal_oscillator"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetvorno-2013-01-02T02:47:00.000Z-Crystal_oscillator"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Electronics_terminology" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Electronics_terminology-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Electronics_terminology-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Category:Electronics terminology<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Electronics_terminology-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Electronics_terminology&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Electronics terminology (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.24.246.233-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z-Category:Electronics_terminology"></span>Category:Electronics terminology</a> has been nominated for deletion by merger into <a href="/wiki/Category:Electronics" title="Category:Electronics">Category:Electronics</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.24.246.233" title="Special:Contributions/70.24.246.233">70.24.246.233</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.24.246.233" title="User talk:70.24.246.233">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.24.246.233-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z-Category:Electronics_terminology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.24.246.233-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z-Category:Electronics_terminology"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.24.246.233-2013-01-26T06:23:00.000Z-Category:Electronics_terminology"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Integrated_circuit_inventor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Integrated_circuit_inventor-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Integrated_circuit_inventor-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z"></span>Integrated circuit inventor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Integrated_circuit_inventor-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc3s5h-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z-Integrated_circuit_inventor"></span>A discussion is underway at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Patents_as_source_for_invention_claims" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard">Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Patents as source for invention claims</a> about whether patents are suitable reliable sources to support claims that a particular person invented the process used to fabricate integrated circuits. <a href="/wiki/User:Jc3s5h" title="User:Jc3s5h">Jc3s5h</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jc3s5h" title="User talk:Jc3s5h">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Jc3s5h-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z-Integrated_circuit_inventor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc3s5h-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z-Integrated_circuit_inventor"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc3s5h-2013-01-27T21:25:00.000Z-Integrated_circuit_inventor"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Amplifier_organization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Amplifier_organization-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Amplifier_organization-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Amplifier" title="Amplifier">Amplifier</a> organization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Amplifier_organization-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z-Amplifier_organization"></span>Is being discussed at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Amplifier#Amplifier_topic_organization" title="Talk:Amplifier">Talk:Amplifier#Amplifier_topic_organization</a>. -—<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">Kvng</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z-Amplifier_organization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z-Amplifier_organization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z-Amplifier_organization"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olli_Niemitalo-2013-01-30T11:52:00.000Z-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z"></span>There is another proposal in there. <a href="/wiki/User:Olli_Niemitalo" title="User:Olli Niemitalo">Olli Niemitalo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Olli_Niemitalo" title="User talk:Olli Niemitalo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Olli_Niemitalo-2013-01-30T11:52:00.000Z-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olli_Niemitalo-2013-01-30T11:52:00.000Z-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olli_Niemitalo-2013-01-30T11:52:00.000Z-Kvng-2013-01-27T14:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Development of <b>Electric double-layer capacitor</b> to <b>Supercapacitor</b><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor"></span>After more than half a year composing for a new edition of the article <a href="/wiki/Electric_double-layer_capacitor" class="mw-redirect" title="Electric double-layer capacitor">Electric double-layer capacitor</a> I am now close for inserting my draft into the Wiki, please see <a href="/wiki/User:Elcap/Supercapacitor" title="User:Elcap/Supercapacitor">User:Elcap/Supercapacitor</a>. But I have a problem. Writing the new text for the article I found out, that the existing article (without the introduction) is an accumulation of single arguments without reasonable context. (The introduction I insert some moth ago). And I found out, that a real double-layer capacitor doesn’t exist. </p><p>Electric double-layer capacitors (EDLCs), invented 1957, have seen a dramatic change in understanding of their capacitive charge storage from a pure physical function between Helmholtz double-layers to an additional pseudocapacitive chemical charge storage with redox reactions, electrosorption and intercalation processes. This change of understanding has lead to a split of the electrochemical capacitors into three families: </p> <ul><li>Double-layer capacitors – with carbon electrodes or derivates with much higher static double-layer capacitance than the faradaic pseudocapacitance</li> <li>Pseudocapacitors – with electrodes out of metal oxides or conducting polymers with a high amount of faradaic pseudocapacitance</li> <li>Hybrid capacitors – capacitors with special electrodes that exhibit both significant double-layer capacitance and pseudocapacitance, such as lithium-ion capacitors</li></ul> <figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png/300px-Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="225" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png/450px-Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png/600px-Supercapacitors-Short-Overview.png 2x" data-file-width="960" data-file-height="720"/></a><figcaption>Hierarchical classification of supercapacitors and related types</figcaption></figure> <p>But in no case double-layer and pseudocapacitance exist alone, even the older double-layer capacitors do have a little amount of pseudocapacitance. And the pseudocapacitors and hybrid capacitors do have a lot of double-layer capacitance. So it is nearly impossible to write three single articles to describe the new developments. This leads to the question how to name this very special capacitors. </p><p>Generally in science publications all the different developments of the last years are united under the term “electrochemical capacitors”. But if a development gets a discrete component, the names are manifold. Supercap, Ultracap, Goldcap, Greencap, a lot of manufacturer related names exist. </p><p>A look through the science literature shows, that roughly 70 to 80 % of the authors uses the term “Supercapacitor” (see: A Bibliometric Analysis of the International Literature in Supercapacitors, Francesco Lufrano* and Pietro Staiti, Int. J. Electrochem. Sci., 4 (2009) 173 – 186 <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.electrochemsci.org/papers/vol4/4020173.pdf">PDF</a>) </p><p>A google research gives 730,000 results for Supercapacitor, for Ultracapacitor only 363,000 (Date: 2013-05-07) </p><p>As of 2013 the term <b>supercapacitor</b> has prevailed as the alternative term instead of EDLC or ultracapacitor. One of the reason is surely the respect for B. E. Conway who coined the term supercapacitor. The term “ultracapacitor” also often to be found is used like a trade name for the capacitors from Maxwell, the market leader, and that seems for me like advertising. </p><p>By the way, most of the European countries are using the translated version of the term Supercapacitor. </p><p>So I am asking the Wikis how it can go on? I propose to insert my draft under “Electric double-layer capacitor”, and than move the article to the term “Supercapacitor”. Can I count with support? --<a href="/wiki/User:Elcap" title="User:Elcap">Elcap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elcap" title="User talk:Elcap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z-Development_of_Electric_double-layer_capacitor_to_Supercapacitor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elcap-2013-05-11T08:27:00.000Z-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span>SpinningSpark wrote me, that the move of the article Electric double-layer capacitor to Supercapacitor has been reverted by different editors in the past. So I leave the present article Electric double-layer capacitor, copy my new draft supercapacitor from my user page to “Supercapacitor” shortly, and start a new discussion on the new discussion page of supercapacitor. --<a href="/wiki/User:Elcap" title="User:Elcap">Elcap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elcap" title="User talk:Elcap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Elcap-2013-05-11T08:27:00.000Z-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elcap-2013-05-11T08:27:00.000Z-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elcap-2013-05-11T08:27:00.000Z-Elcap-2013-05-07T14:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z"></span>Official ASTEP logo.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/File:Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg" title="File:Official ASTEP logo.jpg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg"></span>file:Official ASTEP logo.jpg</a> has been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.76.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.76.126">65.94.76.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.76.126" title="User talk:65.94.76.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-22T07:03:00.000Z-Official_ASTEP_logo.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" data-mw-thread-id="h-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"><span id="8031.2F8051:_1-bit_architecture.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span>8031/8051: 1-bit architecture?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span>Could someone take a look at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Intel_microprocessors&diff=554140289&oldid=554138447">this edit</a> in particular and perhaps the recent changes by the same editor to <a href="/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Intel microprocessors">List of Intel microprocessors</a>, <a href="/wiki/1-bit_architecture" class="mw-redirect" title="1-bit architecture">1-bit architecture</a> and <a href="/wiki/Intel_MCS-51" class="mw-redirect" title="Intel MCS-51">Intel MCS-51</a> in general? It looks to me like he is confusing the bit addressing instructions ("Boolean processor") <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www2.elo.utfsm.cl/~lsb/elo311/aplicaciones/intel/booleanproc.pdf">here</a> with the actual 8051 architecture, which is of course 8-bit. Before I respond to this, I would like a second opinion. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span>I agree. n-bit architecture refers to the size of the data path and the size of the data path for the MCS-51 is definitely 8 bits. Being able to set, reset and test bits in a byte are computations that have nothing to do with the size of the data bus. But beyond my own understanding, a search for 'mcs-51 "1-bit architecture"' on Google nets 6 results, of which 2 are WP pages and the other 4 are not relevant. I know of no evidence that Intel or anybody else has declared the 8051 a 1-bit architecture. This looks like (mistaken) OR. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mark_viking" title="User:Mark viking">Mark viking</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mark_viking" title="User talk:Mark viking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tagremover#8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" title="User talk:Tagremover">User talk:Tagremover#8031/8051: 1-bit architecture?</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2013-05-08T21:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T04:44:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z"></span>Preparing a reply. Please wait. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Tagremover" title="User:Tagremover">Tagremover</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tagremover" title="User talk:Tagremover">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T04:44:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T04:44:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T04:44:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T00:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Same problem with related edits such as <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1-bit_architecture&diff=554163673&oldid=552544591">this one</a> that equates 1-bit archicture with Boolean processor. Note that the Boolean processors that he's concerned with have 8-bit instruction paths even when doing one-bit Boolean ops on 1-bit locations. I've never seen these concepts used interchangeably this way. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T17:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T10:22:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z"></span>Yup. It will be interesting to see the response. I remember that when I was just starting out in engineering (and the computers ran on steam) being told that I was wrong felt like an attack on my worth, but now finding out that I was wrong actually makes me happy -- it means that I have fixed an area where my mental model of the world does not match reality. I have noticed that those who still treat any technical disagreement as an attack tend to be wrong more often. I figure that this is because they are basically ineducable.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Our <a href="/wiki/Boolean_data_type" title="Boolean data type">Boolean data type</a> article details how a boolean variable is often implemented with 8, 16, 32, or even 64 bits, with zero as false and any non-zero value as true. That's how the 8051 does it; instructions like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/comp/8051/set8051.html#51jz">JZ</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.8052.com/51jnz">JNZ</a> work on bytes. Even <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.8052.com/51jb">JB</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.8052.com/51jnb">JNB</a>, which work with bits, start with a byte and select the bit within the byte, which is why JB and JNB are three bytes long instead of two bytes long like JZ and JNZ. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T10:22:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T10:22:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T10:22:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2013-05-09T06:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:35:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span> (Related content moved from user talk, where it does not belong. <a href="/wiki/User:Tagremover" title="User:Tagremover">Tagremover</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tagremover" title="User talk:Tagremover">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:35:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:35:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:35:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T23:59:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span>I would liken to talk to you about <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Intel_microprocessors&diff=554140289&oldid=554138447">this edit</a> in particular and other edits you have recently made to to <a href="/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Intel microprocessors">List of Intel microprocessors</a>, <a href="/wiki/1-bit_architecture" class="mw-redirect" title="1-bit architecture">1-bit architecture</a> and <a href="/wiki/Intel_MCS-51" class="mw-redirect" title="Intel MCS-51">Intel MCS-51</a>. </p><p>First, could you please use the preview button instead of saving multiple times?<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-preview">[2]</a> </p><p>Second, please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT">WP:TALKDONTREVERT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>. When I reverted your edit, it was improper to re-revert me. Please don't do that again. </p><p>Third, you appear to be confused about the difference between bit addressing instructions and 1-bit architecture. The 8031/8051 has an 8-bit architecture. I have no idea what you think <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.sfprime.net/i8031/">http://www.sfprime.net/i8031/</a> has to do with this, but it certainly does not say that the 8031/8051 has an 1-bit architecture. </p><p>I asked for a second opinion on this, and so far I have received the following responses: </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics#8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics#8031/8051: 1-bit architecture?</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andy_Dingley#8031:_1-bit_architecture?" title="User talk:Andy Dingley">User talk:Andy Dingley#8031: 1-bit architecture?</a> </p><p>Given the above, I am going to ask you to voluntarily undo any edits that you have made that are based upon your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research</a> concerning what a 1-bit architecture is. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T23:59:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T23:59:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-08T23:59:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span> </p><p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span>Reply</b> </p><p>@<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a>: First, your tone is not really friendly, and that you are wrong, doesn't make it better. I programmed the 8051 for several projects since end of 1980s, so i know what i am talking about. And, in contrary to you (although i do respect self-trained engineers/scientists, i know some who are better than masters or professors), i am an highly educated engineer and scientist and worked several years in a microelectronic company (not Intel) in research and design of microcontrollers. </p><p>Second: Obviously you are unable to follow the rules you think they are important: Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT">WP:TALKDONTREVERT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>. When I reverted <i>your revert</i> with the comment: "Of course it has 1-bit boolean processor: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.sfprime.net/i8031/">http://www.sfprime.net/i8031/</a>", according to the rules listed by yourself it is not the recommended, best solution, to call others if they support your WRONG opinion, but to ask your question on the article talk first. </p><p>In <b>fact</b>, i am no too surprised, that there is a highly lack of knowledge about the "Boolean processor" in, of course (what else?), 1-bit architecture. The WRONG statements of 4, in Wikipedia language, "experienced editors" or even "experts" is a <b>proof</b>, that it is highly needed to highlight the Boolean processor and its function.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tagremover&diff=554209567&oldid=553793367">[3]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Andy_Dingley&diff=554165063&oldid=554160917">[4]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics&diff=554194669&oldid=554162020">[5]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics&diff=554250270&oldid=554240084">[6]</a> </p><p>Because everything is already listed or linked in the article <a href="/wiki/MCS-51" title="MCS-51">MCS-51</a>, especially in the section <a href="/wiki/Intel_MCS-51#Important_features_and_applications" class="mw-redirect" title="Intel MCS-51">Intel_MCS-51#Important_features_and_applications</a> and the here most important ref: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www2.elo.utfsm.cl/~lsb/elo311/aplicaciones/intel/booleanproc.pdf">[7]</a>, i repeat the facts clearly marked. </p><p><b>Facts</b> </p> <ol><li>The Boolean processor is existing: See article refs and: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.google.com/search?as_q=(mcs51%7C8051%7C8031%7C80251)+%22boolean+processor%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&gbv=1&safe=off">[8]</a> <ol><li>Obviously it uses some special hardware: 8 to 1-bit read/write masking and some instruction hardware for 17 instructions. This is a <i>FULL 1-BIT INSTRUCTION SET</i>: The variants to manipulate a bit are limited. <b>Result</b>: Existence of Boolean processor proofed.</li></ol></li> <li>Any processor has an architecture, and any existing processor architecture belongs to a processor. <b>Result</b>: Existence of Boolean <i>architecture</i> inside the 8051 proofed.</li> <li>The ALU operand width in the Boolean architecture is <b>clearly 1-bit wide</b>: 1-bit ALU, 1-bit accu, 1-bit register and memory, and if you STUDY this <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www2.elo.utfsm.cl/~lsb/elo311/aplicaciones/intel/booleanproc.pdf">[9]</a> carefully, you see the bitwide "BUS" which is <b>NOT a bus</b>, but simply a wire/line. It leads to the accu. That many parts of the architecture are ADDITIONALLY usable in 8-bit processing, is NOT important: This is also the case in many other <b><a href="/wiki/Multiprocessor" class="mw-redirect" title="Multiprocessor">multiprocessor</a> chip</b>s. <b>Understand</b> that a 1-bit processor hardware is really SMALL: See figures in booleanproc.pdf. <b>Result</b>: Existence of <i>1-bit architecture</i> inside the 8051 proofed.</li> <li><b>Data bus width determines processor width: Clearly wrong.</b> But: no absolutely exact definition possible. BEST: a) Most important/most used processor (ALU) in b) its highest <b>OPERAND width</b>, in which most (ALU) operations can performed. <ol><li>See Pentium 3: Internal/external 64bit data-bus, 32-bit ALUs, 80-bit copro, 128-bit SSE: Result: 32-bit</li> <li>8051 variants in your credit card: 1-bit (serial) external, 8-bit internal: Result: 8-bit</li> <li>Many other examples with different external/internal data-bus widths, search yourself.</li></ol></li></ol> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><b>Result:</b> external/internal Data-bus width is <b>no proof</b> at all for determining processor width.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><b>Disputed</b> </p><p>a) There is some confusion about the data-bus width, with some WRONGLY state to be 8-bit wide: See its an <b>ADDITIONAL</b> 1-bit processor using its bit-line (if you like: "bus") and reuses some hardware, which is EXCELLENT (carry-bit = accu spares sometimes a move), but outside the 1-bit architecture it uses the 8-bit bus. </p><p>b) Obviously it is called "boolean processor" <b>because it is an processor</b>: It will be confusing if someone describes: We added an xx-bit architecture, but nearly always: ...<b>includes XYZ processor</b>.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.google.com/search?as_q=(mcs51%7C8051%7C8031%7C80251)+%22boolean+processor%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_qdr=all&gbv=1&safe=off">[10]</a> </p><p>c) Its a full instruction set, a full boolean, 1-bit operand wide processor, not only bit addressing </p><p>d) Instruction length (opcode) determines processor width: <b>Clearly wrong</b>: otherwise for example the 8051 would be an up to 24-bit processor, see also other examples. </p><p>e) Address bus width is notable, but clearly <b>not</b> the the most important width: otherwise the <b>8051 would be a 16-bit.</b> </p><p><b>Results + Discussion</b> </p><p>I hope to pointed clearly the facts. Otherwise it is all in WIkipedia listed and linked. </p><p>Before you revert my edits because you think, external and/or internal data-bus width determines a processor (architecture) width, <b>YOU should consequently change the Pentium 3 to 64-bit</b>, or the 8051 in your credit-card to 1-bit. Remember: All buses have a <a href="/wiki/Protocol" class="mw-disambig" title="Protocol">protocol</a> with an operand width: THATS independent from physical bus width and PROCESSED by the PROCESSOR in its (input) OPERAND-WIDTH ARCHITECTURE. See also all the others facts and faults. </p><p>Of course you can ignore my effort; 4 editors can easily revert me: Remember yours faults will be in the history. Otherwise you can thank me for highlighting a often misunderstood feature: THE BOOLEAN PROCESSOR built obviously with (mostly) 1-bit architecture by partly reusing 8-bit parts: BUT MUST INCLUDE masking to 1-bit: The 1-bit architecture. <a href="/wiki/User:Tagremover" title="User:Tagremover">Tagremover</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tagremover" title="User talk:Tagremover">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z-8031/8051:_1-bit_architecture?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span>You failed to address my first and second points.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>First, could you please use the preview button instead of saving multiple times?<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-preview">[11]</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd>Second, please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT">WP:TALKDONTREVERT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>. When I reverted your edit, it was improper to re-revert me. Please don't do that again. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z"></span>Now, first, this seems intolerant to other, highly experienced editors and their style, and could be seen as unfriendly. You found the preview button, too? Should i explain other functions of the editor to you?</dd> <dd>Second: Read carefully, i addressed that point: You were factually wrong and your revert improper, my revert was reasonable with sufficient explanation: Do you understand that? Please read the reason again. Please read also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT">WP:TALKDONTREVERT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>, and best my whole reasons above and the article. Please don't do that again.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I mention your tone a second time, i think it could be improved. <a href="/wiki/User:Tagremover" title="User:Tagremover">Tagremover</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tagremover" title="User talk:Tagremover">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T12:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z"></span>Can we please keep issues of editor behaviour off this page, the <i>electronics</i> project is not the appropriate place and will not help to resolve the electronic problem. Tagremover, you do not need to post these long harangues. Just a simple link to one reliable source describing the MCS-51 as a one-bit processor is all you need to do to settle the matter.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5PDx2Q9Ea_YC&pg=PA17#v=onepage&q&f=true">This book</a> would appear to have the description we need: "Arithmetic and logic unit of 8051 performs arithmetic and logical operations on 8-bit operands." And later "there is a separate Boolean Processor integrated within the 8051 microcontroller. It has its own instruction set, accumulator and bit addressable RAM." If I understand this correctly, it is saying that there is a 1-bit architecture processor embedded within an 8-bit architecture microcontroller. So essentially the 8051 is 8-bit architecture, but has a component within it which is 1-bit architecture. The Intel data sheet provided by Tagremover seems to bear this out: "The instructions in figure 3b can operate directly upon 144 general purpose bits forming the Boolean processor 'RAM'." With the clear implication that it cannot operate <i>directly</i> on the general purpose data RAM. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T13:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z"></span>If the above link gives you a restricted page error, Google "there is a separate Boolean Processor integrated within the 8051 microcontroller" (with the quotes) and click on the result. Sometimes Google books has a problem if you didn't get there from Google search. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-09T14:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span>The 8051's "Boolean processor" (as named on Intel's datasheet) has an 8 bit data bus. It not only offers bit operations, it offers those bit operations <i>across any chosen bit of the 8 bit register</i>. This is a "Boolean processor", but it's not a "1-bit processor" <a href="/wiki/User:Andy_Dingley" title="User:Andy Dingley">Andy Dingley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andy_Dingley" title="User talk:Andy Dingley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z"></span>...and it certainly isn't a "1-bit architecture". The 8051 boolean processor is there so that you can atomically set or clear a single bit, but saying that that means the 8051 has a 1-bit architecture is rather like saying that the ARM Cortex has a 1-bit architecture because it has bit banding instructions. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z-Andy_Dingley-2013-05-09T15:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z"></span>To expand on the above, when we speak of a "32-bit architecture" or a "1-bit architecture", we are talking about <i><a href="/wiki/Computer_architecture" title="Computer architecture">Computer architecture</a></i>. An 8-bit processor looks different to the programmer than a 32-bit processor does. A 32-bit processor can store the integer 1000 in a couple of registers or memory locations, directly and atomically add them together, and store the resulting integer 2000 in a register or memory location. an 8-bit processor can do that with 100+100=200, but not with 1000+1000=2000. If the 32-bit processor has the ability to load and store bytes, that doesn't mean that it has an "8/32-bit architecture". It means that it has a 32-bit architecture and has the ability to directly manipulate bytes. It's not a different archetecture but rather an added feature. Likewise, an 8031/8051 has an 8-bit architecture and has the ability to directly manipulate bits. See [ <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.zmitac.aei.polsl.pl/Electronics_Firm_Docs/mcs51/applnots/20383001.pdf">http://www.zmitac.aei.polsl.pl/Electronics_Firm_Docs/mcs51/applnots/20383001.pdf</a> ].</li></ul> <dl><dd>As I pointed out before, the ARM Cortex can also manipulate individual bits. See [ <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0337i/Behcjiic.html">http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0337i/Behcjiic.html</a> ] and [ <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dai0179b/CHDJHIDF.html">http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dai0179b/CHDJHIDF.html</a> ]. Try doing a Google or Bing search on [ ARM Cortex "1-bit architecture" ] and see how many sources call it that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-09T15:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Perhaps someone should propose a course of action. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T16:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T20:39:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z"></span>My preferred course of action when several editors agree on something and one disagrees is to look very carefully at the dissenting editor's arguments and especially at any citations she or he provides. This helps to avoid groupthink. Tagremover chose a different path and was blocked for two weeks for edit warring. I for one very much hope that when he returns he decides to discuss his theories in a calm, rational manner, and that we all follow the sources and the consensus. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T20:39:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T20:39:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-05-11T20:39:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-05-11T18:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span>I know this discussion was a while ago but I think it's still worth voicing my opinion. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Tagremover" title="User:Tagremover">Tagremover</a>:</span> frankly, everything you said is absolutely right. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Andy_Dingley" title="User:Andy Dingley">Andy Dingley</a>:</span> you are wrong, actually. The document Tagremover linked to should have been enough to back up his argument. Here is one sentence:</dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>For such control situations the most significant aspect of the MCS -51 architecture is its complete hardware support for one-bit or Boolean variables (named in honor of Mathematician George Boole) as a separate data type</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite><i>MCS-51 Boolean Processing Capabilities, April 1980, Intel</i></cite></div></blockquote> <dl><dd>It's not a "it offers those bit operations across any chosen bit of the 8 bit register" as you said. It's IS a hardware single wire (I.E. 1-bit register). Looks like some people are confusing a boolean processor with normal instructions that allow you to manipulate/access single bits such as <a href="/wiki/Bit_Test" title="Bit Test">bt</a>, bts, btr, and btc. The two are <b>completely orthogonal concepts</b>. --<a href="/wiki/User:CyberXRef" title="User:CyberXRef"><span style="color:#2d7a00;">C</span><span style="color:#2e7f00;">yb</span><span style="color:#25ff00;">er</span><span style="color:#3dbc4c;">XR</span><span style="color:#adff00;">ef</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CyberXRef" title="User talk:CyberXRef">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:05, 12 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z-Tagremover-2013-05-09T11:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2014-01-12T17:01:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z"></span>Support for one-bit variables is not the same as having one-bit architecture. The processor has 8-bit architecture. Within the 8051 is a <i>separate boolean procesor</i> which may well have a one-bit architecture but the basic architecture of the device as a whole remains 8-bit with 8-bit buses. If you had read on a bit further in the same document you would have found "their true power comes when they are used in conjunction with the microcomputer's byte-processing and numerical capabilities." <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2014-01-12T17:01:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 12 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2014-01-12T17:01:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2014-01-12T17:01:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z"></span>This is crazy, everyone knows the 8031/8051 are 8-bit processors even though they have bit access instructions. They should not be called 1-bit processors without RS saying that they are. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.36.142.114" title="Special:Contributions/70.36.142.114">70.36.142.114</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.36.142.114" title="User talk:70.36.142.114">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 20 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z-CyberXRef-2014-01-12T14:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:55:00.000Z-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z"></span>As anyone who has worked in engineering knows, the field attracts a fair number of arrogant and ineducable jerks, and once they latch on to some batshit insane theory like "support for bit operations equals one-bit architecture" and start the usual "you are an idiot for daring to disagree with my infallible self" song and dance, there is no reasoning with them. Just treat them like anyone else who is pushing pseudoscientific fringe theories and calmly but firmly require citations to reliable secondary sources that directly support their claims without synthesis or original research. This is, of course, the same standard that we hold ourselves to. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:55:00.000Z-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 20 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:55:00.000Z-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:55:00.000Z-70.36.142.114-2014-04-20T17:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured" data-mw-thread-id="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured-2013-06-10T03:10:00.000Z"><span id="One_of_your_project.27s_articles_has_been_featured"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured-2013-06-10T03:10:00.000Z"></span>One of your project's articles has been featured<span data-mw-comment-end="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured-2013-06-10T03:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000080; padding: 10px; width: 100%"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theopolisme-2013-06-10T03:10:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Articles_for_improvement_star.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/85px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="85" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/128px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/170px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="141" data-file-height="135"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello,<br/>Please note that <b><a href="/wiki/Consumer_electronics" title="Consumer electronics">Consumer electronics</a></b>, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement">Today's articles for improvement</a></b>. 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data-mw-thread-id="h-"Cue_sheet"-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z"><span id=".22Cue_sheet.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Cue_sheet"-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z"></span>"Cue sheet"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Cue_sheet"-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.79.6-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z-"Cue_sheet""></span>The usage of <a href="/wiki/Cue_sheet" class="mw-disambig" title="Cue sheet">Cue sheet</a> is under discussion, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cue_sheet_(computing)" title="Talk:Cue sheet (computing)">Talk:Cue sheet (computing)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6">65.94.79.6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.79.6" title="User talk:65.94.79.6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.79.6-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z-"Cue_sheet"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.79.6-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z-"Cue_sheet""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.79.6-2013-06-20T00:21:00.000Z-"Cue_sheet""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IXI.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-IXI.jpg-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IXI.jpg-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z"></span>IXI.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IXI.jpg-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:IXI.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:IXI.jpg (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z-IXI.jpg"></span>image:IXI.jpg</a> has been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6">65.94.79.6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.79.6" title="User talk:65.94.79.6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z-IXI.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:45, 1 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z-IXI.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T06:45:00.000Z-IXI.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z"></span>File:IXI sketch 2.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:IXI sketch 2.jpg (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg"></span>File:IXI sketch 2.jpg</a> has been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6">65.94.79.6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.79.6" title="User talk:65.94.79.6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 1 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.79.6-2013-07-01T12:03:00.000Z-File:IXI_sketch_2.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z"></span>Compact Cassette Logo.svg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/File:Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg" title="File:Compact Cassette Logo.svg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg"></span>image:Compact Cassette Logo.svg</a> has been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222">76.65.128.222</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.128.222" title="User talk:76.65.128.222">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.128.222-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.128.222-2013-07-25T05:59:00.000Z-Compact_Cassette_Logo.svg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_help_from_AfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_help_from_AfC-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_help_from_AfC-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Request for help from AfC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_help_from_AfC-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dodger67-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z-Request_for_help_from_AfC"></span>Someone who understands the subject is requested to help with reviewing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Coupling_coefficient_of_resonators" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Coupling coefficient of resonators">WT:Articles for creation/Coupling coefficient of resonators</a>. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Dodger67" title="User:Dodger67">Roger (Dodger67)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dodger67" title="User talk:Dodger67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dodger67-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z-Request_for_help_from_AfC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dodger67-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z-Request_for_help_from_AfC"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dodger67-2013-07-28T18:28:00.000Z-Request_for_help_from_AfC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LED_Tube_lights" data-mw-thread-id="h-LED_Tube_lights-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LED_Tube_lights-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z"></span>LED Tube lights<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LED_Tube_lights-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=LED_Tube_lights&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="LED Tube lights (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z-LED_Tube_lights"></span>LED Tube lights</a> is a brand new article and I am unable to determine notability of the subject. Besides being written almost like an advertisement, the article has no references at this time. I am wondering if this project considers this topic worthy of inclusion per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> or other criteria. Thanks. ---- <a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z-LED_Tube_lights" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z-LED_Tube_lights"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z-LED_Tube_lights"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mark_viking-2013-07-29T16:25:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z"></span>Because of the copyvio and the obvious advertising, the proposed speedy delete looks reasonable. But there has been some scholarly work looking into LED replacements for traditional lighting installations, such as fluorescent tubes, for example, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5546983&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5546983">A Driving Technology for Retrofit LED Lamp for Fluorescent Lighting Fixtures With Electronic Ballasts</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4548064&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4548064">LED replacement for fluorescent tube lighting</a>. An article, or an expansion of the <a href="/wiki/LED_lamp#LED_tube_lights" title="LED lamp">LED lamp#LED tube lights</a> section, could probably be written on these replacement technologies. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mark_viking" title="User:Mark viking">Mark viking</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mark_viking" title="User talk:Mark viking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Mark_viking-2013-07-29T16:25:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mark_viking-2013-07-29T16:25:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mark_viking-2013-07-29T16:25:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2013-07-29T15:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Motorola-A1600.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z"></span>File:Motorola-A1600.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Motorola-A1600.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Motorola-A1600.jpg (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg"></span>File:Motorola-A1600.jpg</a> has been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222">76.65.128.222</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.128.222" title="User talk:76.65.128.222">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:37, 9 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-09T10:37:00.000Z-File:Motorola-A1600.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_Cellular_devices" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Cellular_devices-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Cellular_devices-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Cellular devices<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Cellular_devices-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cellular_devices"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cellular_devices#Make_this_a_taskforce_of_WP:Telecommunications" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cellular devices"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, WikiProject Electronics. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cellular_devices#Make_this_a_taskforce_of_WP:Telecommunications" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cellular devices">WT:WikiProject Cellular devices#Make this a taskforce of WP:Telecommunications</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6" title="Special:EditPage/Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics/Archive 6">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <p>-- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222">76.65.128.222</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.128.222" title="User talk:76.65.128.222">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cellular_devices" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:23, 16 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cellular_devices"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-16T05:23:00.000Z-WikiProject_Cellular_devices"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z"></span>Jacque Fresco - 3D Projector.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Jacque Fresco - 3D Projector.jpg (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg"></span>image:Jacque Fresco - 3D Projector.jpg</a> has been nominated for deletion at PUF -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222" title="Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222">76.65.128.222</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.65.128.222" title="User talk:76.65.128.222">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 20 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.65.128.222-2013-08-20T04:41:00.000Z-Jacque_Fresco_-_3D_Projector.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Waveguide_filter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Waveguide_filter-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Waveguide_filter-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z"></span>Waveguide filter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Waveguide_filter-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/Waveguide_filter" title="Waveguide filter">waveguide filter</a> has been nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FA">FA</a>. Your comments and opinion on whether this article should be promoted to featured status are welcome at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Waveguide_filter/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Waveguide filter/archive1">Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Waveguide filter/archive1</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:54, 24 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-08-24T07:54:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_missing_topics_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_missing_topics_pages-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_missing_topics_pages-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z"></span>My missing topics pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_missing_topics_pages-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skysmith-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z-My_missing_topics_pages"></span>I have updated <a href="/wiki/User:Skysmith/Missing_topics_about_Electricity" title="User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Electricity">Missing topics about Eletricity and Electronics</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Skysmith" title="User:Skysmith">Skysmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skysmith" title="User talk:Skysmith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Skysmith-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z-My_missing_topics_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skysmith-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z-My_missing_topics_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skysmith-2013-08-29T12:11:00.000Z-My_missing_topics_pages"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Waveguide_filter_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-Waveguide_filter_again-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Waveguide_filter_again-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z"></span>Waveguide filter again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Waveguide_filter_again-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter_again"></span>The previous FA nomination of <a href="/wiki/Waveguide_filter" title="Waveguide filter">Waveguide filter</a> was archived without promotion due to a lack of supporters on the nomination page. Would editors interested please take a look and if you think the article is FA material please support at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Waveguide_filter/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Waveguide filter/archive2">Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Waveguide filter/archive2</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter_again"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-11-08T17:42:00.000Z-Waveguide_filter_again"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z"></span>Portal:Technology for featured candidacy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Portal:Technology" title="Portal:Technology"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cirt-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy"></span>Portal:Technology</a></li></ul> <p>I've nominated <a href="/wiki/Portal:Technology" title="Portal:Technology">Portal:Technology</a> for featured candidacy. Comments would be appreciated, at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_portal_candidates/Portal:Technology" title="Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology">Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology</a>. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Cirt" title="User:Cirt">Cirt</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cirt" title="User talk:Cirt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Cirt-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cirt-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cirt-2013-11-20T01:58:00.000Z-Portal:Technology_for_featured_candidacy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_Articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_Articles-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_Articles-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z"></span>Requested Articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_Articles-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matty.007-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z-Requested_Articles"></span>Hi, Requested Articles is encouraging WikiProjects to have a look at their relevant section at RA; and either remove requests that won't be made, or leaving (preferably adding sources as well) the ones which may be created. For this WikiProject, that is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Applied_arts_and_sciences#Electronics" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences">here</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Matty.007" title="User:Matty.007"><span style="color: #03A04A;">Mat</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matty.007" title="User talk:Matty.007"><span style="color: #D20419;">ty</span></a><span style="color: #800080">.</span><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matty.007" title="Special:Contributions/Matty.007"><span style="color: #039685">007</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Matty.007-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z-Requested_Articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 28 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matty.007-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z-Requested_Articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matty.007-2013-11-28T19:29:00.000Z-Requested_Articles"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z"><span id="Usage_of_.7B.7BSemiconductor_packages.7D.7D_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z"></span>Usage of <a href="/wiki/Template:Semiconductor_packages" title="Template:Semiconductor packages">{{Semiconductor packages}}</a> on articles unrelated to packaging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Sbmeirow" title="User:Sbmeirow"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span>User:Sbmeirow</a> is apparently intent on adding this template to a number of pages about specialized semiconductor component types, such as <a href="/wiki/Avalanche_diode" title="Avalanche diode">Avalanche diode</a>, <a href="/wiki/Schottky_diode" title="Schottky diode">Schottky diode</a>, <a href="/wiki/Zener_diode" title="Zener diode">Zener diode</a>, <a href="/wiki/Transient-voltage-suppression_diode" title="Transient-voltage-suppression diode">Transient-voltage-suppression diode</a>, etc., even though these articles are not at all concerned with particular package formats, and most of them never even mention packaging. In particular, it would clearly not be appropriate to add them to <a href="/wiki/Category:Semiconductor_packages" title="Category:Semiconductor packages">Category:Semiconductor packages</a>, so why should they include a navbox for that category? </p><p>As described in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NAVBOX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NAVBOX">WP:NAVBOX</a>, and specifically <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BIDIRECTIONAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BIDIRECTIONAL">WP:BIDIRECTIONAL</a>, a navbox should normally include backlinks to all the articles into which it is transcluded. Thus, it makes perfect sense to have the <a href="/wiki/Template:Semiconductor_packages" title="Template:Semiconductor packages">{{Semiconductor packages}}</a> navbox in articles like <a href="/wiki/DO-204" title="DO-204">DO-204</a> or <a href="/wiki/TO-3" title="TO-3">TO-3</a>, but not on every article about some particular variety of diode, if that article is not itself listed in the navbox. Rather than discussing this on the individual article pages, I suppose this is the right place to get a rough consensus on appropriate usage of navboxes within the WikiProject; does anyone else think <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Avalanche_diode&diff=585104971&oldid=582993815">this</a> is a good idea? <a href="/wiki/User:Hqb" title="User:Hqb">Hqb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hqb" title="User talk:Hqb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 15 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span> </p> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z"></span>If you are going to discuss this over here, then you need to put links in the talk section for the template and those articles pointing back to this discussion.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Diode" title="Diode">Diode</a> article has 4 photos of diodes in <b>packages</b>, <a href="/wiki/Schottky_diode" title="Schottky diode">Schottky diode</a> article has 3 photos of diodes in <b>packages</b>, <a href="/wiki/Zener_diode" title="Zener diode">Zener diode</a> article has 2 photos of diodes in <b>packages</b>, <a href="/wiki/Transient-voltage-suppression_diode" title="Transient-voltage-suppression diode">Transient-voltage-suppression diode</a> has 1 photo of diodes in <b>packages</b>, thus its obvious there are <b>package</b> related "things" in those articles.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Schottky_diode#Designation" title="Schottky diode">Schottky_diode#Designation</a> clearly lists diode part numbers, thus ties them to a package. Those part numbers can't exist without being in a package.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Schottky_diode#Construction" title="Schottky diode">Schottky_diode#Construction</a> is lacking because it shows a photo yet doesn't say anything about putting the diode in packaging. This would be similar to talking about IC chip internals without talking about packaging.</li> <li>Typical end users can't buy any diodes without being in a package. Go to DigiKey or Mouser and try to buy a diode without being in a package.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Capacitor" title="Capacitor">Capacitor</a>, <a href="/wiki/Resistor" title="Resistor">Resistor</a>, <a href="/wiki/Operational_amplifier" title="Operational amplifier">Operational amplifier</a>, and numerous other electronic articles don't exclude talk about packages, so a similar rule doesn't apply to these diode articles either.</li> <li>Just because these diode articles don't have a section about packaging, doesn't mean it should be excluded, instead it means these articles are flawed for the lack of talk about common packaging! Seriously, an article about diodes isn't complete unless it talks about packaging.</li> <li>• <a href="/wiki/User:Sbmeirow" title="User:Sbmeirow"><span style="color:#8D38C9;">Sbmeirow</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbmeirow" title="User talk:Sbmeirow"><span style="color:#8D38C9;White;">Talk</span></a> • <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 15 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z-Hqb-2013-12-15T14:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ol> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z"></span>I tend to agree with Hqb, we don't need a packages navbox in all those articles. Yes for articles about packages and maybe for component articles that have an <i>in depth</i> discussion of packaging, but not for everything across the board. I don't think just having pictures of packages in a component article is enough to justify a navbox; after all we don't have an automobile navbox in the <a href="/wiki/Kylie_Minogue" title="Kylie Minogue">Kylie Minogue</a> article just because she is photographed with a car. Linking to the package article is enough; anyone interested will follow the link and find the navbox there. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 15 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z"></span>The last time I checked, Kylie Minogue isn't a part in my vehicle; but a diode is inside of a package. • <a href="/wiki/User:Sbmeirow" title="User:Sbmeirow"><span style="color:#8D38C9;">Sbmeirow</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbmeirow" title="User talk:Sbmeirow"><span style="color:#8D38C9;White;">Talk</span></a> • <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:26, 16 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-15T22:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-16T07:25:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z"></span>I was only being picturesque with the Kylie Minogue example of course. Here is one more down-to earth: Your car might not have a Kylie but it certainly has a gearbox, yet the <a href="/wiki/Ford_Fiesta" title="Ford Fiesta">Ford Fiesta</a> article does not have the navbox <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Gears" title="Template:Gears">Gears</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-12-16T07:25:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 16 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-16T07:25:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-16T07:25:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-16T00:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbyrnes321-2013-12-17T01:57:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z"></span>I agree 100% with Hqb. <i>If</i> it's true that the Schottky diode article ought to talk about the packaging of Schottky diodes (for example), well then the Schottky article ought to <i>talk about</i> the packaging of Schottky diodes. Putting a packaging navbox does not help that goal in any significant way. A navbox can't effectively "talk about" anything, because the navbox has no sentences. (The navbox might have a few links to articles that talk about the packaging of Schottky diodes, mixed in with 25 other links that have nothing to do with packaging of Schottky diodes. Those 25 other links have no reason to be in the article at all. As for the links that are specifically relevant, if any, they could potentially be "see also"s.)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>At a more basic level: If the article about X has 300 links, then those should be (more or less) the 300 articles that are <i>most important</i> for understanding X, out of <i>all</i> the articles on wikipedia. That's why it is problematic for the Schottky diode article to have a link to <a href="/wiki/Zig-zag_in-line_package" title="Zig-zag in-line package">Zig-zag in-line package</a> (ZIP), via the navbox. I'm not arguing that ZIP has <i>nothing whatsoever</i> to do with Schottky diodes - of course they have <i>some</i> relationship. But ZIP has <i>less</i> relationship to Schottky diodes than do <i>tens of thousands</i> of other articles -- articles like <a href="/wiki/Metal-induced_gap_states" title="Metal-induced gap states">Metal-induced gap states</a>, <a href="/wiki/Czochralski_process" class="mw-redirect" title="Czochralski process">Czochralski process</a>, <a href="/wiki/Electronic_design_automation" title="Electronic design automation">Electronic design automation</a>, <a href="/wiki/Phosphorus" title="Phosphorus">phosphorus</a>, etc. etc. etc. Therefore it is a very poor use of the reader's time to show them a link to ZIP when they are trying to learn about Schottky diodes. --<a href="/wiki/User:Sbyrnes321" title="User:Sbyrnes321">Steve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbyrnes321" title="User talk:Sbyrnes321">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Sbyrnes321-2013-12-17T01:57:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 17 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbyrnes321-2013-12-17T01:57:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbyrnes321-2013-12-17T01:57:00.000Z-Sbmeirow-2013-12-15T21:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2013-12-19T16:11:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span>I agree that this NavBox is overused. Of its <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Semiconductor_packages">current uses</a>, I believe that only the following are desirable. ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">KvnG</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2013-12-19T16:11:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 19 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2013-12-19T16:11:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2013-12-19T16:11:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1184024115">.mw-parser-output .div-col{margin-top:0.3em;column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .div-col-small{font-size:90%}.mw-parser-output .div-col-rules{column-rule:1px solid #aaa}.mw-parser-output .div-col dl,.mw-parser-output .div-col ol,.mw-parser-output .div-col ul{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .div-col li,.mw-parser-output .div-col dd{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}</style><div class="div-col" style="column-width: 30em;"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Integrated_circuit" title="Integrated circuit">Integrated circuit</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dual_in-line_package" title="Dual in-line package">Dual in-line package</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ball_grid_array" title="Ball grid array">Ball grid array</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Surface-mount_technology" title="Surface-mount technology">Surface-mount technology</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pin_grid_array" title="Pin grid array">Pin grid array</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Zig-zag_in-line_package" title="Zig-zag in-line package">Zig-zag in-line package</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Flip_chip" title="Flip chip">Flip chip</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging" title="Integrated circuit packaging">Integrated circuit packaging</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Land_grid_array" title="Land grid array">Land grid array</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Quad_Flat_Package" class="mw-redirect" title="Quad Flat Package">Quad Flat Package</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Thin_Small_Outline_Package" class="mw-redirect" title="Thin Small Outline Package">Thin Small Outline Package</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Small_Outline_Integrated_Circuit" class="mw-redirect" title="Small Outline Integrated Circuit">Small Outline Integrated Circuit</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/TO-92" title="TO-92">TO-92</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/TO-220" title="TO-220">TO-220</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_integrated_circuit_packaging_types" class="mw-redirect" title="List of integrated circuit packaging types">List of integrated circuit packaging types</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Quad_Flat_No-leads_package" class="mw-redirect" title="Quad Flat No-leads package">Quad Flat No-leads package</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Electronic_packaging" title="Electronic packaging">Electronic packaging</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/TO-3" title="TO-3">TO-3</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_electronics_package_dimensions" class="mw-redirect" title="List of electronics package dimensions">List of electronics package dimensions</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/MELF_electronic_components" class="mw-redirect" title="MELF electronic components">MELF electronic components</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Flatpack_(electronics)" title="Flatpack (electronics)">Flatpack (electronics)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Semiconductor_package" title="Semiconductor package">Semiconductor package</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/TO-18" title="TO-18">TO-18</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/DO-204" title="DO-204">DO-204</a></li></ul> </div> <dl><dd>I <b>support</b> that list. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z-Usage_of_{{Semiconductor_packages}}_on_articles_unrelated_to_packaging"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z"></span>I also <b>support</b> this. I created this template with the intention to only include articles that describe package standards, and let the template link back to them. <a href="/wiki/User:Anonimski" title="User:Anonimski">Anonimski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anonimski" title="User talk:Anonimski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 21 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-20T00:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Actually, I don't think <a href="/wiki/Integrated_circuit" title="Integrated circuit">integrated circuit</a> should be on the list. It already has a link to <a href="/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging" title="Integrated circuit packaging">Integrated circuit packaging</a> as a main article and that should be good enough. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 21 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T17:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, I think we can leave it there, since it's such a closely related topic. That way we'll always have the articles linked together, even if they get re-written and re-structured. <a href="/wiki/User:Anonimski" title="User:Anonimski">Anonimski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anonimski" title="User talk:Anonimski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2013-12-21T18:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:15:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z"></span>I removed the template from 19 articles. ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">KvnG</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:15:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:15:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:15:00.000Z-Anonimski-2013-12-21T21:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Review_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Review_request-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Review_request-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z"></span>Review request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Review_request-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anonimski-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z-Review_request"></span>Earlier this month, I have created a few stub-length articles on packages that I thought were necessary to include links to in the Semiconductor Packages template: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/TO-66" title="TO-66">TO-66</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/TO-126" title="TO-126">TO-126</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/DO-214" title="DO-214">DO-214</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Small_Outline_Diode" title="Small Outline Diode">Small Outline Diode</a></li></ul> <p>The articles are new and thus they need to be reviewed by a second person. Can anyone go through them and then remove the tag? The PDF source documents mention the components' existence and some variants, so it shouldn't take too much work to verify the info that I've written. <a href="/wiki/User:Anonimski" title="User:Anonimski">Anonimski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anonimski" title="User talk:Anonimski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Anonimski-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z-Review_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anonimski-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z-Review_request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anonimski-2013-12-25T18:49:00.000Z-Review_request"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:20:00.000Z-Review_request"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> Thanks for the contributions. ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">KvnG</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:20:00.000Z-Review_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:20:00.000Z-Review_request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2013-12-28T22:20:00.000Z-Review_request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z"></span>Advice and any initiative would be considered helpful: <a href="/wiki/Fault_current_limiter" title="Fault current limiter">Fault current limiter</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Askedonty-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter"></span>A 'low interest' rated article in Project Physics that could deserve better, perhaps if viewed from one or another of the subbranches in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TECH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TECH">WP:TECH</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#Advice_please:_(Solid_State)_Fault_Current_Limiters_and_Superconducting_Fault_Current_limiters" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics">Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#Advice please: (Solid State) Fault Current Limiters and Superconducting Fault Current limiters</a>. Perhaps relating the subject to Category:supraconductivity only is misleading. Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Askedonty" title="User:Askedonty">Askedonty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Askedonty" title="User talk:Askedonty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Askedonty-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Askedonty-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Askedonty-2014-01-11T16:43:00.000Z-Advice_and_any_initiative_would_be_considered_helpful:_Fault_current_limiter"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Passing_along_some_info" data-mw-thread-id="h-Passing_along_some_info-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Passing_along_some_info-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Passing along some info<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Passing_along_some_info-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z-Passing_along_some_info"></span>Hi all. Just wanted to add this here after reading up on the project regarding drawing circuits. Has anyone investigated <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.circuitlab.com">CircuitLab.com</a>? I took an electronics course where we had to use it, and it was very thorough in my opinion (but I'm sure it pales in comparison to everyone's here). Anyways, just wanted to let y'all know about it if it could help you. Cheers! - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z-Passing_along_some_info" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 31 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z-Passing_along_some_info"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z-Passing_along_some_info"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the pointer. I notice it exports SVG, our preferred format. Looks promising. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mark_viking" title="User:Mark viking">Mark viking</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mark_viking" title="User talk:Mark viking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T06:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T20:31:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z"></span>No problem! Hope it can be use to you in this project! - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T20:31:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T20:31:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2014-01-31T20:31:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-01-31T15:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfC_submission" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfC_submission-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfC_submission-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z"></span>AfC submission<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfC_submission-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Veroboard" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Veroboard"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z-AfC_submission"></span>Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Veroboard</a>. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:FoCuSandLeArN" title="User:FoCuSandLeArN">FoCuSandLeArN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FoCuSandLeArN" title="User talk:FoCuSandLeArN">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z-AfC_submission" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z-AfC_submission"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z-AfC_submission"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Battery_tester" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Battery tester"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-13T12:27:00.000Z-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Battery tester</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:FoCuSandLeArN" title="User:FoCuSandLeArN">FoCuSandLeArN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FoCuSandLeArN" title="User talk:FoCuSandLeArN">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-13T12:27:00.000Z-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 13 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-13T12:27:00.000Z-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-13T12:27:00.000Z-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-02-08T19:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notifying_of_relevant_FAR" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z"></span>Notifying of relevant FAR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loeba-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR"></span>I have nominated <a href="/wiki/Electrical_engineering" title="Electrical engineering">Electrical engineering</a> for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Electrical_engineering/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article review/Electrical engineering/archive1">featured article review here</a>. The reason for this is a serious lack of citations: much of the article is completely unreferenced. It would be great if someone knowledgeable in this area could improve the article and help it remain an FA. Thanks! --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Loeba" title="User:Loeba"><span style="color: #CC0066;">Loeba</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loeba" title="User talk:Loeba">(talk)</a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Loeba-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 22 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loeba-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loeba-2014-02-22T20:16:00.000Z-Notifying_of_relevant_FAR"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Electromagnetic_coil" data-mw-thread-id="h-Electromagnetic_coil-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Electromagnetic_coil-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Electromagnetic_coil" title="Electromagnetic coil">Electromagnetic coil</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Electromagnetic_coil-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.50.151.11-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z-Electromagnetic_coil"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Talk:Electromagnetic_coil" title="Talk:Electromagnetic coil">talk:Electromagnetic coil</a> about a proposed rewrite -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.50.151.11" title="Special:Contributions/70.50.151.11">70.50.151.11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.50.151.11" title="User talk:70.50.151.11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.50.151.11-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z-Electromagnetic_coil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 9 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.50.151.11-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z-Electromagnetic_coil"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.50.151.11-2014-03-09T04:37:00.000Z-Electromagnetic_coil"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wave_Modulation_(WAM)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"><span id="Wave_Modulation_.28WAM.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span>Wave Modulation (WAM)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)"></span>This is a brand new article. The article's title, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wave_Modulation_(WAM)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wave Modulation (WAM) (page does not exist)">Wave Modulation (WAM)</a>, does not seem to fit the references provided. One source pertains to a United States patent <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8526523.PN.&OS=PN/8526523&RS=PN/8526523">[12]</a> but I don't see how this relates to the article's subject. Also, I think a patent is not considered a reliable source if there is supposed to be a demonstration of notability. Yet, as I said, it doesn't seem related to the subject. </p><p>The link is broken for another source. And a third source, an academic journal article, does not seem related to the subject. Does anyone know anything about this topic? </p><p>From a Google search, here is one related article: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=1ACA3C64-9778-B1C3-8976D4C0B6D9C033">[13]</a>. </p><p>Personally, I think this topic is too new to merit inclusion. --- <a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 30 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z-Wave_Modulation_(WAM)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mark_viking-2014-03-30T03:23:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span>Right now, it looks like a good bit of hype, with pretty strong claims: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/121713-magnacom-277023.html">Netowrk World</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.tvtechnology.com/distribution/0099/magnacom-declares-its-%E2%80%98wam-modulation-technology-beats-qam/222939">TN Technology</a>. Patents and press releases do not a reliable source make, and I could not find any papers on the topic in GScholar. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mark_viking" title="User:Mark viking">Mark viking</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mark_viking" title="User talk:Mark viking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Mark_viking-2014-03-30T03:23:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 30 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mark_viking-2014-03-30T03:23:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mark_viking-2014-03-30T03:23:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span>It would seem that Magnacom are being deliberately secretive about what the technique actually is. Under those circumstances it is impossible to have a <i>technical</i> article about the subject. The current article is a mixture of truisms ("using spectral compression to improve spectral efficiency"), already well known principles ("diversity of time and frequency domains", "non linear signal shaping") and uninterpretable analogy ("1,000 dots on a piece of paper"). In its current state, I would support a nomination for deletion. It might be possible to have instead an article on Magnacom and/or its products if it meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORG">WP:ORG</a> but the current article isn't that. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-30T03:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z"></span>Mark and Spinning Spark - I agree with both of you. And thanks for pointing out the mixture of truisms (certainly nothing special about this article). --- <a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-30T11:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z"></span>Anybody object to copying this discussion into an AFD? <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z-Steve_Quinn-2014-03-31T06:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z"></span>That is fine with me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mark_viking" title="User:Mark viking">Mark viking</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mark_viking" title="User talk:Mark viking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 31 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2014-03-31T08:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-04-01T01:53:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z"></span>I don't have a problem with that. --- <a href="/wiki/User:Steve_Quinn" title="User:Steve Quinn">Steve Quinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steve_Quinn" title="User talk:Steve Quinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Steve_Quinn-2014-04-01T01:53:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-04-01T01:53:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steve_Quinn-2014-04-01T01:53:00.000Z-Mark_viking-2014-03-31T15:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z"></span>Merge Wireless signal jammer into Radio jamming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonpatterns-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming"></span>It has been suggested that <a href="/wiki/Wireless_signal_jammer" class="mw-redirect" title="Wireless signal jammer">Wireless signal jammer</a> be merged into <a href="/wiki/Radio_jamming" title="Radio jamming">Radio jamming</a>, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Radio_jamming#Merger_proposal" title="Talk:Radio jamming">discussion here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonpatterns" title="User:Jonpatterns">Jonpatterns</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonpatterns" title="User talk:Jonpatterns">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Jonpatterns-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 17 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonpatterns-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonpatterns-2014-04-17T18:44:00.000Z-Merge_Wireless_signal_jammer_into_Radio_jamming"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AC/DC_(electricity)" data-mw-thread-id="h-AC/DC_(electricity)-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z"><span id="AC.2FDC_.28electricity.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AC/DC_(electricity)-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z"></span>AC/DC (electricity)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AC/DC_(electricity)-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/AC/DC_(electricity)" class="mw-redirect" title="AC/DC (electricity)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z-AC/DC_(electricity)"></span>AC/DC (electricity)</a> has been proposed to be renamed, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:AC/DC_(electricity)" title="Talk:AC/DC (electricity)">talk:AC/DC (electricity)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.76.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.76.126">65.94.76.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.76.126" title="User talk:65.94.76.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z-AC/DC_(electricity)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 15 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z-AC/DC_(electricity)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z-AC/DC_(electricity)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z"></span>Note: The page "AC/DC (electricity)" has been moved to <a href="/wiki/AC/DC_receiver_design" title="AC/DC receiver design">AC/DC receiver design</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 20 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z-65.94.76.126-2013-05-15T05:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z"></span>And now it redirects to <a href="/wiki/War_of_Currents" class="mw-redirect" title="War of Currents">War of Currents</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 20 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T19:58:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-06-20T23:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z"><span id="Talk:Organic_semiconductor.23Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal" title="Talk:Organic semiconductor">Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal"></span>There is an ongoing discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal" title="Talk:Organic semiconductor">Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal</a> over merging <a href="/wiki/Organic_electronics" title="Organic electronics">organic electronics</a> into <a href="/wiki/Organic_semiconductor" title="Organic semiconductor">organic semiconductor</a>. I thought that it may be of interest to your WikiProject. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rifleman_82" title="User:Rifleman 82">Rifleman 82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rifleman_82" title="User talk:Rifleman 82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z-Talk:Organic_semiconductor#Organic_semiconductor.23Merger_proposal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:01:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span>The overwhelming consensus was not to merge. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:01:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 20 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:01:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:01:00.000Z-Rifleman_82-2013-05-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFC_needs_outside_comment._`" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"><span id="RFC_needs_outside_comment._.60"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span>RFC needs outside comment. `<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Talk:Sousveillance" title="Talk:Sousveillance">Talk:Sousveillance</a> for an RFC which needs outside comment. Any additional comments would be useful to prevent an edit war and help provide resolution. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jayron32" title="User:Jayron32"><span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span></a><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jayron32" title="User talk:Jayron32"><span style="color:#009900;">32</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z-RFC_needs_outside_comment._`"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2013-06-27T10:29:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span>Why do you think the Electronics Wikiproject can help with this issue? The article has not been put within the scope of the wikiproject and the dispute does not involve any electronics issues. Please explain what you want from the project. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2013-06-27T10:29:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2013-06-27T10:29:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2013-06-27T10:29:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span>I want people who care to comment. I want people who don't care to ignore it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jayron32" title="User:Jayron32"><span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span></a><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jayron32" title="User talk:Jayron32"><span style="color:#009900;">32</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-26T23:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z"></span>As of Monday, 25 November 2024, 13:40 (UTC), The English Wikipedia has 48,316,525 registered users who have made 1,254,739,868 edits and created 6,915,796 articles. If even a small percentage of them are allowed to solicit in uninvolved areas of Wikipedia we will be swamped with the solicitations. "Just ignore it if you don't like it" is the same logic the spammers use. --<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Macon-2014-04-20T20:30:00.000Z-Jayron32-2013-06-27T17:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z"></span>Leaflet For Wikiproject Electronics At Wikimania 2014<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adikhajuria-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014"></span>Are you looking to recruit more contributors to your project? <br/> We are offering to design and print physical paper leaflets to be distributed at Wikimania 2014 for all projects that apply. <br/> For more information, click the link below. <br/> <i><a class="external text" href="https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project_Leaflets">Project leaflets</a></i> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Adikhajuria" title="User:Adikhajuria">Adikhajuria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adikhajuria" title="User talk:Adikhajuria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Adikhajuria-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adikhajuria-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adikhajuria-2014-05-22T14:51:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfC_submission_-_11/06" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfC_submission_-_11/06-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z"><span id="AfC_submission_-_11.2F06"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfC_submission_-_11/06-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>AfC submission - 11/06<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfC_submission_-_11/06-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Draft:Electrostatic-Pneumatic" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Electrostatic-Pneumatic"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z-AfC_submission_-_11/06"></span>Draft:Electrostatic-Pneumatic</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:FoCuSandLeArN" title="User:FoCuSandLeArN">FoCuSandLeArN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FoCuSandLeArN" title="User talk:FoCuSandLeArN">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z-AfC_submission_-_11/06" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z-AfC_submission_-_11/06"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FoCuSandLeArN-2014-06-11T17:25:00.000Z-AfC_submission_-_11/06"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z"><span id="Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014.28updated_version.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z"></span>Leaflet For Wikiproject Electronics At Wikimania 2014(updated version)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adikhajuria-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)"></span>Please note: This is an updated version of a previous post that I made. </p> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png/550px-Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png" decoding="async" width="550" height="357" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png/825px-Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png/1100px-Project_Leaflet_WikiProject_Medicine_back_and_front_v1.png 2x" data-file-width="1264" data-file-height="821"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hi all, </p><p>My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London. </p><p>One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations. </p><p>This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g: </p><p>• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film </p><p>• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers. </p><p>• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc. </p><p>• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____ </p><p>• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost <br/><br/> The deadline for submissions is 1st July 2014 <br/><br/> For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: <br/><br/> <i><a class="external text" href="https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project_Leaflets">Project leaflets</a></i> <br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Adikhajuria" title="User:Adikhajuria">Adikhajuria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adikhajuria" title="User talk:Adikhajuria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Adikhajuria-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adikhajuria-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adikhajuria-2014-06-25T15:27:00.000Z-Leaflet_For_Wikiproject_Electronics_At_Wikimania_2014(updated_version)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfC_Submission_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfC_Submission_2-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfC_Submission_2-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z"></span>AfC Submission<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfC_Submission_2-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/SilhouetteFX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/SilhouetteFX"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balablitz-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z-AfC_Submission_2"></span>Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/SilhouetteFX</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Balablitz" title="User:Balablitz">βα£α</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Balablitz#top" title="User talk:Balablitz">ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ</a>)<sup>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Tiruchirappalli" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Tiruchirappalli"><em style="font-family:Georgia;color:#ff0000;font-weight: bold">Support</em></a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Balablitz-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z-AfC_Submission_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balablitz-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z-AfC_Submission_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balablitz-2014-06-30T17:41:00.000Z-AfC_Submission_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="no_cross-wiring_article?" data-mw-thread-id="h-no_cross-wiring_article?-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"><span id="no_cross-wiring_article.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-no_cross-wiring_article?-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span>no cross-wiring article?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-no_cross-wiring_article?-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z-no_cross-wiring_article?"></span>Why does cross-wiring work better? Why is there no <a href="/w/index.php?title=Cross-wiring&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Cross-wiring (page does not exist)">cross-wiring</a> article in Wikipedia? • <a href="/wiki/User:ServiceableVillain" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ServiceableVillain">Serviceable</a>†<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ServiceableVillain" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:ServiceableVillain">Villain</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z-no_cross-wiring_article?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z-no_cross-wiring_article?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z-no_cross-wiring_article?"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T00:19:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span>Cross-wiring usually refers to a mistake. Do you by any chance mean <a href="/wiki/Transposition_(telecommunications)" class="mw-redirect" title="Transposition (telecommunications)">transposition</a> of conductors? <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T00:19:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:19, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T00:19:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T00:19:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the reply. I'm not an EE, know nothing about electronics, etc. I was told many, many years ago that many electronic devices/machines (even as simple as soda-can dispensers) have cross-wring, similar to the way the left side of the brain controls the right hand and vice-versa. I thought it was common knowledge and a common process. • <a href="/wiki/User:ServiceableVillain" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ServiceableVillain">Serviceable</a>†<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ServiceableVillain" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:ServiceableVillain">Villain</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T13:58:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z"></span>The term is certainly widely used in neurology as an analogy, but in electrical engineering I don't think it has a specific enough sense to be able to write a meaningful Wikipedia article. Just in case I was wrong on that, I checked the IEEXplore database which came up with only <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/searchresult.jsp?newsearch=true&queryText=cross-wiring&x=0&y=0">three papers</a>. All of them seem to use the phrase in an everyday non-specific way. Two are talking of "cross wiring capacitance", meaning the capacitance between two <a href="/wiki/Signal_trace" title="Signal trace">traces</a> passing at right angles, and one is talking about transposing address bus digits. I also got one result for <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6562558&queryText%3D%22cross+wired%22">"cross wired"</a>, which is a paper discussing <a href="/wiki/Cross-coupled_filter" class="mw-redirect" title="Cross-coupled filter">cross-coupled resonators</a>. I don't think that all these disparate things can be shoe-horned into a single coherent article. Wiktionary could probably be improved with some dicdefs on this though. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T13:58:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 12 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T13:58:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2014-04-12T13:58:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-12T06:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DavidCary-2014-07-03T18:30:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span>Better than what?</dd> <dd>Like Spinningspark, I agree that whatever it is you are thinking about, Wikipedia probably does need an article on that topic.</dd> <dd>However, from the very brief description you've given here, Wikipedia already has articles on a dozen different things that seem to match that description. It is frustrating on both sides to keep going back and forth with "Hey, that sounds like A". "Nope, that's not it." "Well, are you maybe thinking of B?" "Nope, try again." "Perhaps C?" "Sorry, go fish!"</dd> <dd>For example:</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Crossbar_switch" title="Crossbar switch">crossbar switch</a>, <a href="/wiki/Crossover_switch" title="Crossover switch">crossover switch</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nonblocking_minimal_spanning_switch" title="Nonblocking minimal spanning switch">nonblocking minimal spanning switch</a>, <a href="/wiki/Clos_network" title="Clos network">Clos network</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/RF_switch_matrix" title="RF switch matrix">RF switch matrix</a>, <a href="/wiki/Short_circuit" title="Short circuit">short circuit</a>, <a href="/wiki/Audio_crossover" title="Audio crossover">audio crossover</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable" title="Ethernet crossover cable">Ethernet crossover cable</a></dd> <dd>Cross-wiring between two controllers in a <a href="/wiki/Dual_modular_redundancy" title="Dual modular redundancy">dual modular redundancy</a> system so that a failure in either one may be detected, and the other one can take over reading the sensor and driving the actuators<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.google.com/patents/US6549034">[14]</a></dd> <dd>the kind of cross wiring done by string soldering machines<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.mb-robotics.de/en/company/group/somont/">[15]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://content.yudu.com/A1qk1n/SolarMagIssueX/resources/19.htm">[16]</a> in solar panel fabrication</dd> <dd>The kind of cross wiring in a marshalling cabinet that can sometimes be replaced with electronic marshalling<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.controlglobal.com/articles/2010/electronicmarshalling1006/">[17]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.controlengeurope.com/article/38440/Electronic-marshalling.aspx">[18]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www2.emersonprocess.com/en-us/brands/deltav/sseries/pages/charms.aspx">[19]</a></dd> <dd>The kind of cross wiring used in fieldbus systems<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.phoenixcontact.com/online/portal/us?1dmy&urile=wcm%3apath%3a/usen/web/main/products/subcategory_pages/Copper_transmission_P-08-05/c542935a-4408-4dc9-99a4-c9844c264d41">[20]</a></dd> <dd>The kind of cross wiring used with 3 phase motors and other high-power systems<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.csedistributors.com/acatalog/ABB-Manual-Motor-Starters.html">[21]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.greiner.eu/main/en/d/47/GENIMOD%C2%AE/14/">[22]</a></dd> <dd>When you have a sufficient number of things connected to each other in a <a href="/wiki/Wiring_harness" class="mw-redirect" title="Wiring harness">wiring harness</a> or <a href="/wiki/Printed_wiring_board" class="mw-redirect" title="Printed wiring board">printed wiring board</a>, you will inevitably end up with some wire going over (crossing over) some other wire.</dd> <dd>Could you give us the URL of a web page or upload a photo to give more detail on the specific kind of cross-wiring you are thinking about? --<a href="/wiki/User:DavidCary" title="User:DavidCary">DavidCary</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DavidCary" title="User talk:DavidCary">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-DavidCary-2014-07-03T18:30:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DavidCary-2014-07-03T18:30:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DavidCary-2014-07-03T18:30:00.000Z-ServiceableVillain-2014-04-11T23:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="4:3_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-4:3_?-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z"><span id="4:3_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-4:3_?-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/4:3" class="mw-redirect" title="4:3">4:3</a> ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-4:3_?-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z-4:3_?"></span>We have a <a href="/wiki/16:9" class="mw-redirect" title="16:9">16:9</a> article (and <a href="/wiki/21:9_aspect_ratio" title="21:9 aspect ratio">21:9 aspect ratio</a>), but there's no <a href="/wiki/4:3_aspect_ratio" class="mw-redirect" title="4:3 aspect ratio">4:3 aspect ratio</a> article. Seems like a very big hole in our coverage, considering how common it is and how much more so it was. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126">65.94.171.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.126" title="User talk:65.94.171.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z-4:3_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 9 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z-4:3_?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-09T02:03:00.000Z-4:3_?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diode_logic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diode_logic-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diode_logic-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Diode logic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diode_logic-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z-Diode_logic"></span>Drawing attention of project members to a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Diode_logic" title="Diode logic">Diode logic</a>. Would any project member with an understanding of this topic care to contribute?<a href="/wiki/User:Noyster" title="User:Noyster">: <span style="color:seagreen;"><b>Noyster</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noyster" title="User talk:Noyster"><span style="color:seagreen;"> (talk)</span>, </a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z-Diode_logic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 14 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z-Diode_logic"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z-Diode_logic"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2014-08-14T21:59:00.000Z-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z"></span>There does not seem to be much of a discussion going on there. Are you referring to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diode_logic&diff=prev&oldid=620954599">this insertion</a> and its subsequent revert? <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2014-08-14T21:59:00.000Z-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2014-08-14T21:59:00.000Z-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2014-08-14T21:59:00.000Z-Noyster-2014-08-14T16:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z"><span id="One_of_your_project.27s_articles_has_been_featured_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z"></span>One of your project's articles has been featured<span data-mw-comment-end="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000080; padding: 10px; width: 100%"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Articles_for_improvement_star.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/85px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="85" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/128px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/170px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="141" data-file-height="135"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello,<br/>Please note that <b><a href="/wiki/Consumer_electronics" title="Consumer electronics">Consumer electronics</a></b>, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement">Today's articles for improvement</a></b>. The article was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_article_for_improvement/Schedule" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Today's article for improvement/Schedule">scheduled</a> to appear on Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal" title="Wikipedia:Community portal">Community portal</a> in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! <br/> <sub>Delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:Theo%27s_Little_Bot" title="User:Theo's Little Bot">Theo's Little Bot</a> at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)</a> on behalf of the TAFI team</sub><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2014-09-08T01:00:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_featured_2"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jack_Wayman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jack_Wayman-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jack_Wayman-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Jack_Wayman" title="Jack Wayman">Jack Wayman</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jack_Wayman-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-4meter4-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z-Jack_Wayman"></span>Jack Wayman, who founded the first elecronics show and was responsible for the success of the VCR just died if anyone cares to create an article. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/18/business/jack-wayman-inventor-of-consumer-electronics-show-dies-at-92.html?ref=obituaries">this New York Times article</a>. Best.<a href="/wiki/User:4meter4" title="User:4meter4">4meter4</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4meter4" title="User talk:4meter4">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-4meter4-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z-Jack_Wayman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-4meter4-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z-Jack_Wayman"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-4meter4-2014-09-20T17:04:00.000Z-Jack_Wayman"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z"></span>Comment on the WikiProject X proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harej-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal"></span>Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WikiProject_X" class="extiw" title="meta:Grants:IEG/WikiProject X">review the proposal here</a></b> and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harej" title="User talk:Harej">talk page</a>. Thank you for your time! <small>(Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Harej" title="User:Harej">Harej</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harej" title="User talk:Harej">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Harej-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harej-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harej-2014-10-01T22:47:00.000Z-Comment_on_the_WikiProject_X_proposal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z"></span>Edit conflict on <a href="/wiki/Wireless_power" class="mw-redirect" title="Wireless power">Wireless power</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power"></span>There is a disagreement on the <a href="/wiki/Wireless_power" class="mw-redirect" title="Wireless power">Wireless power</a> article about the section dealing with Nikola Tesla's contributions. Additional opinions would be appreciated. See <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wireless_power#Way_too_much_Tesla" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Wireless power">Talk:Wireless power#Way too much Tesla</a>. Thanks --<a href="/wiki/User:Chetvorno" title="User:Chetvorno"><span style="color:blue;">Chetvorno</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetvorno" title="User talk:Chetvorno"><i style="color:purple; font-size:smaller;">TALK</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z-Edit_conflict_on_Wireless_power"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetvorno-2014-10-31T16:54:00.000Z-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z"></span>Again, I'd like to ask for editors' opinions to resolve this conflict, only a few would be required to achieve consensus. Whichever side you come down on, I feel this is an important issue which involves the confrontation of science and pseudoscience. See <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wireless_power#Way_too_much_Tesla" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Wireless power">Talk:Wireless power#Way too much Tesla</a> and the sections following it. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chetvorno" title="User:Chetvorno"><span style="color:blue;">Chetvorno</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetvorno" title="User talk:Chetvorno"><i style="color:purple; font-size:smaller;">TALK</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Chetvorno-2014-10-31T16:54:00.000Z-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetvorno-2014-10-31T16:54:00.000Z-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetvorno-2014-10-31T16:54:00.000Z-Chetvorno-2014-10-21T04:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation.2FBoxcar_Averagers"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Boxcar Averagers">Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Boxcar Averagers</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers"></span>Hello electronics experts. Here's an old AfC submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable topic, and should the page be kept and improved? —<a href="/wiki/User:Anne_Delong" title="User:Anne Delong">Anne Delong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anne_Delong" title="User talk:Anne Delong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boxcar_Averagers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z"></span>This has been accepted by <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark">Spinningspark</a>. I have made some additional improvements. ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">KvnG</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z-Anne_Delong-2015-01-03T01:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-08T18:38:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z"></span>Great!—<a href="/wiki/User:Anne_Delong" title="User:Anne Delong">Anne Delong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anne_Delong" title="User talk:Anne Delong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-08T18:38:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-08T18:38:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anne_Delong-2015-01-08T18:38:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-01-08T15:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help." data-mw-thread-id="h-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help.-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help.-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z"></span>A draft at AFC needs help.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help.-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help."></span>Please take a look at <a href="/wiki/Draft:Chirp_spectrum" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Chirp spectrum">Draft:Chirp spectrum</a> and if it is a notable topic help the author get it into acceptable shape. <a href="/wiki/User:Dodger67" title="User:Dodger67">Roger (Dodger67)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dodger67" title="User talk:Dodger67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z-A_draft_at_AFC_needs_help."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2015-01-14T14:45:00.000Z-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z"></span>Made some basic improvements and accepted submission. Linked from <a href="/wiki/Chirp" title="Chirp">Chirp</a>. Integration could be improved. ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">KvnG</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2015-01-14T14:45:00.000Z-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2015-01-14T14:45:00.000Z-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2015-01-14T14:45:00.000Z-Dodger67-2015-01-11T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_X_is_live!" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_X_is_live!-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z"><span id="WikiProject_X_is_live.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_X_is_live!-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject X is live!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_X_is_live!-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harej-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_X_is_live!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject X"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/WikiProject_X_icon.svg/100px-WikiProject_X_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/WikiProject_X_icon.svg/150px-WikiProject_X_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/WikiProject_X_icon.svg/200px-WikiProject_X_icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="224" data-file-height="224"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello everyone! </p><p>You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject X">WikiProject X</a></b> is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject X">check us out</a>! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! </p><p><b>Note:</b> To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X/Newsletter" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter">Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter</a>. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Harej" title="User:Harej">Harej</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harej" title="User talk:Harej">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Harej-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_X_is_live!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harej-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_X_is_live!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harej-2015-01-14T16:57:00.000Z-WikiProject_X_is_live!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pull-up_resistor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pull-up_resistor-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pull-up_resistor-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z"></span>Pull-up resistor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pull-up_resistor-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lambtron-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z-Pull-up_resistor"></span>The lede of <a href="/wiki/Pull-up_resistor" title="Pull-up resistor">pull-up resistor</a> has seemingly intractable problems that might benefit from the attention of experienced editors. Please see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Pull-up_resistor#Definition" title="Talk:Pull-up resistor">this discussion</a> for details. Thanks in advance, <a href="/wiki/User:Lambtron" title="User:Lambtron">Lambtron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lambtron" title="User talk:Lambtron">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Lambtron-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z-Pull-up_resistor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lambtron-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z-Pull-up_resistor"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lambtron-2015-01-28T14:37:00.000Z-Pull-up_resistor"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BElectronics_industry_in_the_United_States.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States" title="Template:Electronics industry in the United States">Electronics industry in the United States</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States" title="Template:Electronics industry in the United States"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.40.137-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}"></span>template:Electronics industry in the United States</a> has been nominated for deletion -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.40.137" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.40.137">65.94.40.137</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.40.137" title="User talk:65.94.40.137">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.40.137-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 30 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.40.137-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.40.137-2015-01-30T11:51:00.000Z-{{Electronics_industry_in_the_United_States}}"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pulsed_field_magnet" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pulsed_field_magnet-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pulsed_field_magnet-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z"></span>Pulsed field magnet<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pulsed_field_magnet-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z-Pulsed_field_magnet"></span>FYI, there is a notice at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:PHYSICS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:PHYSICS">WT:PHYSICS</a> about <a href="/wiki/Draft:Pulsed_field_magnet" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Pulsed field magnet">Draft:Pulsed field magnet</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.43.89" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.43.89">65.94.43.89</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.43.89" title="User talk:65.94.43.89">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z-Pulsed_field_magnet" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z-Pulsed_field_magnet"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-15T06:22:00.000Z-Pulsed_field_magnet"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Crosstalk"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Crosstalk"-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z"><span id=".22Crosstalk.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Crosstalk"-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z"></span>"Crosstalk"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Crosstalk"-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z-"Crosstalk""></span>The usage and primary topic of <a href="/wiki/Crosstalk" title="Crosstalk">Crosstalk</a> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cross-talk&redirect=no">cross-talk</a></span> is under discussion, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Crosstalk_(disambiguation)" title="Talk:Crosstalk (disambiguation)">talk:crosstalk (disambiguation)</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.43.89" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.43.89">65.94.43.89</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.43.89" title="User talk:65.94.43.89">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z-"Crosstalk"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z-"Crosstalk""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.43.89-2015-05-23T04:20:00.000Z-"Crosstalk""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Gain" class="mw-disambig" title="Gain">Gain</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Gain" class="mw-disambig" title="Gain">Gain</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Gain_(electronics)" title="Gain (electronics)">Gain (electronics)</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gain#Requested_move_29_July_2015" title="Talk:Gain">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T04:29:00.000Z-Gain_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Crocodile_clip" title="Crocodile clip">Crocodile clip</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Crocodile_clip" title="Crocodile clip">Crocodile clip</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Alligator_clip" class="mw-redirect" title="Alligator clip">Alligator clip</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Crocodile_clip#Requested_move_30_July_2015" title="Talk:Crocodile clip">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-07-30T11:15:00.000Z-Crocodile_clip_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out" data-mw-thread-id="h-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z"></span>Misleading definition: reconvergent fan-out<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out"></span>The article on <a href="/wiki/Reconvergent_fan-out" title="Reconvergent fan-out">Reconvergent_fan-out</a> has a highly misleading definition of the term ("Reconvergent fan-out is a technique to make VLSI logic simulation less pessimistic."). Reconvergent fan-out is a property of a circuit (or graph) - the fact that multiple paths exist from the output of a circuit element (or graph node) to another point in the circuit or graph. It is not an optimization technique as stated by the definition, although many optimization techniques exist that take advantage of reconvergent fan-out in the underlying circuit or graph. One or more of these may be colloquially referred to as "reconvergent fan-out" as a shorthand for "optimization for circuits containing reconvergent fan-out," or "technique for more accurate results on circuits containing reconvergent fan-out," which appears to be where the current definition comes from. </p><p>I'm a first-time editor here, so I'm not ready to just dive in and fix this yet, but would appreciate other suggestions for how to improve that page. This mis-definition of an important term in my field was so flagrant that I couldn't just pass it by. I don't have an official reference at hand to cite for the correct definition, but it should be obvious from context in most of the other references that come up with this as a search term. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dewtellit&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dewtellit (page does not exist)">Dewtellit</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dewtellit&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Dewtellit (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z-Misleading_definition:_reconvergent_fan-out"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2015-08-05T23:08:00.000Z-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dewtellit&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dewtellit (page does not exist)">Dewtellit</a>:</span> There does not seem to be any shortage of book sources <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=sorby+elastic+band+site:news.google.com/newspapers&source=newspapers&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=E4fCVd7fKIPT7QaNspaoDQ#hl=en&tbm=bks&q=%22reconvergent+fan-out%22">readable on Google books</a> from which something can be written. I would not worry about being a first-time editor. That article is currently entirely unsourced, so anything you write from a source is bound to be an improvement. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2015-08-05T23:08:00.000Z-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2015-08-05T23:08:00.000Z-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2015-08-05T23:08:00.000Z-Dewtellit-2015-08-05T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z"><span id="Nexus_7_.282012_version.29_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Nexus_7_(2012_version)" class="mw-redirect" title="Nexus 7 (2012 version)">Nexus 7 (2012 version)</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Nexus_7_(2012_version)" class="mw-redirect" title="Nexus 7 (2012 version)">Nexus 7 (2012 version)</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Nexus_7_(2012)" title="Nexus 7 (2012)">Nexus 7 (2012)</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Nexus_7_(2012_version)#Requested_move_14_August_2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Nexus 7 (2012 version)">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 14 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-14T08:45:00.000Z-Nexus_7_(2012_version)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/ThinkPad_10" title="ThinkPad 10">ThinkPad 10</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/ThinkPad_10" title="ThinkPad 10">ThinkPad 10</a> to be moved to <a href="/w/index.php?title=ThinkPad_10_(first_generation)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="ThinkPad 10 (first generation) (page does not exist)">ThinkPad 10 (first generation)</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:ThinkPad_10#Requested_move_15_August_2015" title="Talk:ThinkPad 10">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 15 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-08-15T20:16:00.000Z-ThinkPad_10_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z"><span id="Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z"></span>Are crystal oscillators fixed-frequency oscillators?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetvorno-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?"></span>There is a dispute going on at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Electronic_oscillator" title="Talk:Electronic oscillator">Talk:Electronic oscillator</a> over whether crystal oscillators are used as fixed-frequency oscillators. Outside opinions are needed. Please drop by and express your opinion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Electronic_oscillator#Request_for_Comment:_Additional_wording_on_crystal_oscillators_as_fixed-frequency_oscillators" title="Talk:Electronic oscillator">Talk:Electronic oscillator#Request for Comment: Additional wording on crystal oscillators as fixed-frequency oscillators</a>. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chetvorno" title="User:Chetvorno"><span style="color:blue;">Chetvorno</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetvorno" title="User talk:Chetvorno"><i style="color:purple; font-size:smaller;">TALK</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Chetvorno-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetvorno-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetvorno-2015-08-21T14:34:00.000Z-Are_crystal_oscillators_fixed-frequency_oscillators?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_digital_signal_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_digital_signal_article-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_digital_signal_article-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z"></span>Removal of digital signal article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_digital_signal_article-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z-Removal_of_digital_signal_article"></span>A small number of editors are planning to remove (technically "merge") the <a href="/wiki/Digital_signal" title="Digital signal">digital signal</a> article and replace it with a disambiguation page. The discussion is at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Digital_signal" title="Talk:Digital signal">Talk:digital signal</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:GliderMaven" title="User:GliderMaven">GliderMaven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GliderMaven" title="User talk:GliderMaven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z-Removal_of_digital_signal_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 7 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z-Removal_of_digital_signal_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z-Removal_of_digital_signal_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T19:49:00.000Z-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z"></span>There is now a <a href="/wiki/Digital_signal_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Digital signal (disambiguation)">Digital signal (disambiguation)</a>. I don't think there was ever a proposal to remove <a href="/wiki/Digital_signal" title="Digital signal">Digital signal</a>. There were edits, reverts and at one point I advocated moving it to <a href="/wiki/Digital_signal_(electronics)" class="mw-redirect" title="Digital signal (electronics)">Digital signal (electronics)</a>. We need help improving <a href="/wiki/Digital_signal_(signal_processing)" title="Digital signal (signal processing)">Digital signal (signal processing)</a>. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2015-09-29T19:49:00.000Z-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T19:49:00.000Z-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T19:49:00.000Z-GliderMaven-2015-09-07T14:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z"><span id="Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku.23RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z"></span>Seeking Help with <a href="/wiki/Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored?" title="Talk:Roku">Talk:Roku#RfC: Should the Feature comparison table be restored?</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored"></span>I am looking for help or advice from an <b>experienced "techie" editor</b>. I (among others) have been dabbling with small maintenance updates to the <a href="/wiki/Roku" title="Roku">Roku</a> streaming video player article during the last 4 years, so i care - but I am also inexperienced with wiki jargon, things like "consensus" and the procedures of RfC... i am just a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35i94g">simple country Wiki-chicken</a>. </p><p>In mid-August a drive-by editor with no domain knowledge boldly "massacred" 80% of the article and while multiple editors tried to revert the change, he perseveres re-reverting to his version (initially 4 times in a day, more later). Now there is an RfC to restore the useful model comparison table, akin to <a href="/wiki/IPad#Model_comparison" title="IPad">IPad#Model comparison</a>, <a href="/wiki/Comparison_of_Google_Nexus_smartphones" title="Comparison of Google Nexus smartphones">Comparison of Google Nexus smartphones</a> and <a href="/wiki/Apple_TV#Technical_specifications" title="Apple TV">Apple TV#Technical specifications</a>. Said table was the most popular feature of the Roku article (try google search for <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=link:%2Fwikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRoku%23Feature_comparison">link:/wikipedia.org/wiki/Roku#Feature_comparison</a> to see) and while its usefulness seems obvious to me, i have hard time convincing some of the editors, one of which insists only prose should be used on Wikipedia, not tables. </p><p>So can i interest somebody in dropping by on our mess, to explain the value of tech.spec tables - or how to proceed further? <a href="/wiki/User:EnTerr" title="User:EnTerr">EnTerr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EnTerr" title="User talk:EnTerr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T20:15:00.000Z-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z"></span>That conversation didn't seem to be going anywhere. I have boldly created <a href="/wiki/Comparison_of_Roku_boxes" class="mw-redirect" title="Comparison of Roku boxes">Comparison of Roku boxes</a>. I think it works well as a stand-alone article. If someone takes offense and nominates it for deletion, perhaps we will have a more productive discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">WP:AFD</a>. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2015-09-29T20:15:00.000Z-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T20:15:00.000Z-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T20:15:00.000Z-EnTerr-2015-09-29T08:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored"></span>This is canvassing.<a href="/wiki/User:Serialjoepsycho" title="User:Serialjoepsycho">-Serialjoepsycho-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serialjoepsycho" title="User talk:Serialjoepsycho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z-Seeking_Help_with_Talk:Roku#RfC:_Should_the_Feature_comparison_table_be_restored"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z"></span>Asking for help at wikiprojects is certainly not canvassing. It is a recognised way of getting more editors involved in a specific page. It's only canvassing if individual editors invited to take part in a discussion are selected for their known views on the issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T21:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z"></span>And on an interesting note I didn't imply that this was canvassing because he was asking for help at a wikiproject. Here's a convenient link to the canvassing policy <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CANVASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CANVASS">WP:CANVASS</a>. That whole part about the appropriate notification being neutral and all.<a href="/wiki/User:Serialjoepsycho" title="User:Serialjoepsycho">-Serialjoepsycho-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serialjoepsycho" title="User talk:Serialjoepsycho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2015-09-29T22:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z"></span>I agree that this is not a neutral notice by <a href="/wiki/User:EnTerr" title="User:EnTerr">EnTerr</a> but not unusual or unexpected given the circumstances. The post is a request to improve the quality of discussion by broadening participation. It is canvassing and this type of canvassing is encouraged. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 29 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-29T23:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z"></span>This type of canvassing is discouraged not encouraged. This is not a request to improve the discussion. This is a request for you to help them get something in the article because they really want it. This is an attempt to campaign other editors to their side.<a href="/wiki/User:Serialjoepsycho" title="User:Serialjoepsycho">-Serialjoepsycho-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serialjoepsycho" title="User talk:Serialjoepsycho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-29T23:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z"></span>Are you saying it was wrong for <a href="/wiki/User:EnTerr" title="User:EnTerr">EnTerr</a> to post here or are you just upset about how the post was worded and what was requested? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T02:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T05:27:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z"></span>Well since I have made issue of the improper canvassing that has taken place, what do you think?<a href="/wiki/User:Serialjoepsycho" title="User:Serialjoepsycho">-Serialjoepsycho-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serialjoepsycho" title="User talk:Serialjoepsycho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T05:27:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T05:27:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serialjoepsycho-2015-09-30T05:27:00.000Z-Kvng-2015-09-30T03:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lightbulb_socket" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lightbulb_socket-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lightbulb_socket-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z"></span>Lightbulb socket<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lightbulb_socket-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Lightbulb_socket" title="Lightbulb socket"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.51.44.60-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket"></span>Lightbulb socket</a> has been proposed to be renamed, for the discussion, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Lightbulb_socket" title="Talk:Lightbulb socket">talk:Lightbulb socket</a>. As lightbulbs have been used as a type of variable resistance in circuits, I thought you'd like to know. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.51.44.60" title="Special:Contributions/70.51.44.60">70.51.44.60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.51.44.60" title="User talk:70.51.44.60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.51.44.60-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.51.44.60-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.51.44.60-2015-10-06T02:20:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Lightbulb_socket" title="Lightbulb socket">Lightbulb socket</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Lightbulb_socket" title="Lightbulb socket">Lightbulb socket</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Lamp_base" class="mw-redirect" title="Lamp base">Lamp base</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Lightbulb_socket#Requested_move_5_October_2015" title="Talk:Lightbulb socket">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-06T02:30:00.000Z-Lightbulb_socket_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015" data-mw-thread-id="h-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z"><span id="Grants:IEG.2FWikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z"></span>Grants:IEG/Wikipedia likes Galactic Exploration for Posterity 2015<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geraldshields11-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015"></span>Dear Fellow Wikipedians, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:I_JethroBT_(WMF)" title="User:I JethroBT (WMF)">I JethroBT (WMF)</a> suggested that I consult with fellow Wikipedians to get feedback and help to improve my idea about "As an unparalleled way to raise awareness of the Wikimedia projects, I propose to create a tremendous media opportunity presented by launching Wikipedia via space travel." </p><p>Please see the idea at <span class="url"><a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015">meta<wbr/>.wikimedia<wbr/>.org<wbr/>/wiki<wbr/>/Grants:IEG<wbr/>/Wikipedia<wbr/>_likes<wbr/>_Galactic<wbr/>_Exploration<wbr/>_for<wbr/>_Posterity<wbr/>_2015</a></span>. Please post your suggestions on the talk page and please feel free to edit the idea and join the project. </p><p>Thank you for your time and attention in this matter. I appreciate it. </p><p>My best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Geraldshields11" title="User:Geraldshields11">Geraldshields11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geraldshields11" title="User talk:Geraldshields11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Geraldshields11-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 13 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geraldshields11-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geraldshields11-2015-10-13T22:07:00.000Z-Grants:IEG/Wikipedia_likes_Galactic_Exploration_for_Posterity_2015"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z"><span id="Radio_.28receiver.29_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Radio_(receiver)" class="mw-redirect" title="Radio (receiver)">Radio (receiver)</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Radio_(receiver)" class="mw-redirect" title="Radio (receiver)">Radio (receiver)</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Radio_receiver" title="Radio receiver">radio receiver</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Radio_(receiver)#Requested_move_30_October_2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Radio (receiver)">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 30 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-10-30T21:29:00.000Z-Radio_(receiver)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Radio_receiver" title="Radio receiver">Radio receiver</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Radio_receiver" title="Radio receiver">Radio receiver</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Radio_receiver" title="Radio receiver">radio receiver</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Radio_receiver#Requested_move_30_October_2015" title="Talk:Radio receiver">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2015-11-07T15:29:00.000Z-Radio_receiver_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_Optics" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Optics-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Optics-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Optics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Optics-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.51.44.60-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z-WikiProject_Optics"></span>FYI, I have nominated WPOptics for merger as a taskforce of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Physics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Physics">WP:Physics</a>, for the proposal, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Optics" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Optics">WT:WikiProject Optics</a>; as electro-optics and opto-electronics are related to electronics, I though you'd like to know -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.51.44.60" title="Special:Contributions/70.51.44.60">70.51.44.60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.51.44.60" title="User talk:70.51.44.60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.51.44.60-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z-WikiProject_Optics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 8 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.51.44.60-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z-WikiProject_Optics"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.51.44.60-2015-12-08T07:48:00.000Z-WikiProject_Optics"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-12-08T08:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-12-08T08:00:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Optics">Wikipedia:WikiProject Optics</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves-2015-12-08T08:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2015-12-08T08:00:00.000Z-Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Optics" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Optics">Wikipedia:WikiProject Optics</a> to be moved to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Physics/Taskforces/Optics&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Taskforces/Optics (page does not exist)">WP:WikiProject Physics/Taskforces/Optics</a>. 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Apparently, my issue is that the article makes little to no distinction on green vs. pure green LEDs, even though the former has existed since the 1970s while the latter wasn't introduced until the 1990s. The article seems to consider both to be one in the same, even though they are not. <a href="/wiki/User:Andros_1337" title="User:Andros 1337"><span style="color:#FF88AA"><span style="font-family : Trebuchet MS;"><b>ANDROS</b><sup>1337</sup></span></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andros_1337" title="User talk:Andros 1337"><sub>TALK</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z-Peer_review_for_Light-emitting_diode" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 5 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z-Peer_review_for_Light-emitting_diode"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z-Peer_review_for_Light-emitting_diode"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:01:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z"></span>That's not really what peer review is for, I doubt that you'll get anywhere there. Why don't you just fix the article yourself - I see that you have already made some edits. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:01:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 5 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:01:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:01:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Andros_1337" title="User:Andros 1337">Andros 1337</a>:</span>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-05T18:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z"></span>This is my first ever peer review, however, I would prefer that such sources with any statement that I add are verified to ensure reliability. <a href="/wiki/User:Andros_1337" title="User:Andros 1337"><span style="color:#FF88AA"><span style="font-family : Trebuchet MS;"><b>ANDROS</b><sup>1337</sup></span></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andros_1337" title="User talk:Andros 1337"><sub>TALK</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-01-05T23:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-06T16:43:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z"></span>Well it's difficult to verify the reliability of the sources you used since you did not cite any sources when you edited the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-01-06T16:43:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 6 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-06T16:43:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-01-06T16:43:00.000Z-Andros_1337-2016-01-06T02:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Thermal_Management"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Thermal_Management"-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z"><span id=".22Thermal_Management.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Thermal_Management"-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z"></span>"Thermal Management"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Thermal_Management"-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.51.200.135-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z-"Thermal_Management""></span>The usage and topic of <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermal_Management&redirect=no">Thermal Management</a></span> is under discussion, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Thermal management of electronic devices and systems">talk:Thermal management of electronic devices and systems</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.51.200.135" title="Special:Contributions/70.51.200.135">70.51.200.135</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.51.200.135" title="User talk:70.51.200.135">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.51.200.135-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z-"Thermal_Management"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 26 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.51.200.135-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z-"Thermal_Management""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.51.200.135-2016-01-26T06:58:00.000Z-"Thermal_Management""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems" class="mw-redirect" title="Thermal management of electronic devices and systems">Thermal management of electronic devices and systems</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems" class="mw-redirect" title="Thermal management of electronic devices and systems">Thermal management of electronic devices and systems</a> to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Thermal_Management" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Thermal Management">Thermal Management</a>. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems#Requested_move_25_January_2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Thermal management of electronic devices and systems">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2016-01-26T07:00:00.000Z-Thermal_management_of_electronic_devices_and_systems_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome_new_user" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_new_user-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_new_user-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z"></span>Welcome new user<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_new_user-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bluerasberry-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z-Welcome_new_user"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GreenOctopus" title="User:GreenOctopus">GreenOctopus</a>:</span> is a new user on Wikipedia. This person just edited the <a href="/wiki/British_telephone_sockets" class="mw-redirect" title="British telephone sockets">British telephone sockets</a> article and was asking if everything is in order. They originally wrote in by email to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTRS">WP:OTRS</a>, and I suggested that they edit Wikipedia instead of only asking for changes by email. They did a great job making the edits they wanted. </p><p>I am writing here to ask if anyone else would say hello to them. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e"><b> Blue Rasberry </b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluerasberry" title="User talk:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Bluerasberry-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z-Welcome_new_user" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bluerasberry-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z-Welcome_new_user"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bluerasberry-2016-02-01T02:23:00.000Z-Welcome_new_user"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z"><span id="X_.28incubator.29_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/X_(incubator)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="X (incubator)">X (incubator)</a> listed at Requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a> discussion has been initiated for <a href="/wiki/X_(incubator)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="X (incubator)">X (incubator)</a> to be moved. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:X_(incubator)#Requested_move_2_February_2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:X (incubator)">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-RMCD_bot-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 2 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2016-02-02T15:46:00.000Z-X_(incubator)_listed_at_Requested_moves"></span> </p><dl><dd><small>To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">bots</a>|deny=RMCD bot}}</span>, or set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Article alerts</a> for this WikiProject.</small></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Article_alerts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_alerts-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_alerts-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z"></span>Article alerts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_alerts-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z-Article_alerts"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a>:</span> Why have you <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Electronics&diff=706201501&oldid=695903333">created</a> the page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Electronics/Alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronics/Alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronics/Alerts</a>? There is nothing in it. If bots are being directed there, that is kind of pointing them to a black hole that will never get visisted. Better to direct them to the main talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z-Article_alerts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 22 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z-Article_alerts"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z-Article_alerts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z"></span>I set up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts">Wikipedia:Article alerts</a> for the project and it doesn't populate immediately. Check it again now. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z-Spinningspark-2016-02-22T07:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z"></span>Most projects transclude the article alert to either the WikiProject page or the talk page of the Wikiproject. <a href="/wiki/User:Christian75" title="User:Christian75">Christian75</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Christian75" title="User talk:Christian75">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 23 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z-Kvng-2016-02-22T15:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2016-03-01T14:43:00.000Z-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z"></span>I tried to follow the different precedent already set on our project page. I'm not opposed to anyone changing this though. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2016-03-01T14:43:00.000Z-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 1 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2016-03-01T14:43:00.000Z-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2016-03-01T14:43:00.000Z-Christian75-2016-02-23T12:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z"></span>Category:Optical devices and Category:Optical instruments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Category:Optical_devices" title="Category:Optical devices"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.51.46.39-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments"></span>Category:Optical devices</a> has been proposed to be merged into <a href="/wiki/Category:Optical_instruments" title="Category:Optical instruments">Category:Optical instruments</a>; for the discussion, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_March_21#Category:Optical_devices" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 March 21">Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_March_21#Category:Optical_devices</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.51.46.39" title="Special:Contributions/70.51.46.39">70.51.46.39</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.51.46.39" title="User talk:70.51.46.39">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-70.51.46.39-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 24 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.51.46.39-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.51.46.39-2016-03-24T06:02:00.000Z-Category:Optical_devices_and_Category:Optical_instruments"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ignition_systems" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ignition_systems-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ignition_systems-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z"></span>Ignition systems<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ignition_systems-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z-Ignition_systems"></span>Hi. I'd like some eyes at the <a href="/wiki/Ignition_system" title="Ignition system">Ignition system</a> article. See <a href="/wiki/Talk:Ignition_system#Poorly_sourced_recent_changes" title="Talk:Ignition system">Talk:Ignition system#Poorly sourced recent changes</a>. The basic issue is the function of the capacitor across the breaker points. Some sources explain it is to prevent a break arc, but other editors use sources that emphase resonance/damped sinewaves. There was also a similar issue at <a href="/wiki/Induction_coil" title="Induction coil">Induction coil</a> / <a href="/wiki/Talk:Induction_coil#Dubious" title="Talk:Induction coil">Talk:Induction coil#Dubious</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Glrx-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z-Ignition_systems" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 28 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z-Ignition_systems"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2016-03-28T23:24:00.000Z-Ignition_systems"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!" data-mw-thread-id="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z"><span id="One_of_your_project.27s_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z"></span>One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background:#FFFFFF; border:2px solid #000080; padding: 10px; width: 100%"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MusikAnimal-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Articles_for_improvement_star.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/85px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="85" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/128px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Articles_for_improvement_star.svg/170px-Articles_for_improvement_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="141" data-file-height="135"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello,<br/>Please note that <b><a href="/wiki/Photodetector" title="Photodetector">Photodetector</a></b>, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement">Today's articles for improvement</a></b>. The article was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_article_for_improvement/Schedule" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Today's article for improvement/Schedule">scheduled</a> to appear on Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal" title="Wikipedia:Community portal">Community portal</a> in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! <br/> <sub>Delivered by <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <b><a href="/wiki/User:MusikBot" title="User:MusikBot"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikBot</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-MusikAnimal-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 30 May 2016 (UTC)</a> on behalf of the TAFI team</sub><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MusikAnimal-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MusikAnimal-2016-05-30T00:06:00.000Z-One_of_your_project's_articles_has_been_selected_for_improvement!"></span> </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="S-Bus" data-mw-thread-id="h-S-Bus-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-S-Bus-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/S-Bus" class="mw-redirect" title="S-Bus">S-Bus</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-S-Bus-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z-S-Bus"></span>Can someone review this article? Someone recently rewrote the article and deleted a bunch of things, but now the article no only conforms to what a Wikipedia article should look like, and the putative name of the subject does not match the pagename. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.217" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.217">65.94.171.217</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.217" title="User talk:65.94.171.217">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z-S-Bus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:55, 10 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z-S-Bus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z-S-Bus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-2016-08-12T14:53:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span>Until someone contributes some usable references, I guess anything goes here. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Kvng-2016-08-12T14:53:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-2016-08-12T14:53:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-2016-08-12T14:53:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-08-14T01:05:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span>I've nominated it for deletion. I'm not turning up anything much in the way of sources. It doesn't help that there are several things called S-Bus and BusPro. I suspect the name change is an attempt to promote a product, but in any case, we can't tolerate a page that has a subject different from its title. So even if kept, the recent changes need to be reverted, or else the page renamed. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-08-14T01:05:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 14 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-08-14T01:05:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-08-14T01:05:00.000Z-65.94.171.217-2016-08-10T05:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Test_engineer" title="Test engineer">Test engineer</a> needs review and content editing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing"></span>Please see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Test_engineer#_Gibberish" title="Talk:Test engineer">Talk:Test engineer# Gibberish</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Thnidu" title="User:Thnidu">Thnidu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thnidu" title="User talk:Thnidu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z-Test_engineer_needs_review_and_content_editing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-14T21:34:00.000Z-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z"></span>This seems to be the wrong title for such an article, since there are many types of test engineers, such as found in aeronautics, software, automotive industry, etc -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.217" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.217">65.94.171.217</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.217" title="User talk:65.94.171.217">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-14T21:34:00.000Z-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 14 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-14T21:34:00.000Z-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.217-2016-08-14T21:34:00.000Z-Thnidu-2016-08-13T22:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redirect_of_CAD" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirect_of_CAD-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirect_of_CAD-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z"></span>Redirect of <a href="/wiki/CAD" class="mw-redirect" title="CAD">CAD</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirect_of_CAD-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z-Redirect_of_CAD"></span>Please comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:CAD#Requested_move_31_October_2016" title="Talk:CAD">Talk:CAD#Requested move 31 October 2016</a> on whether <a href="/wiki/Computer-aided_design" title="Computer-aided design">computer-aided design</a> should be the primary topic for <a href="/wiki/CAD" class="mw-redirect" title="CAD">CAD</a> and hence redirected there. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z-Redirect_of_CAD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 31 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z-Redirect_of_CAD"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-10-31T23:37:00.000Z-Redirect_of_CAD"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Möbius_resistor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Möbius_resistor-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z"><span id="M.C3.B6bius_resistor"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Möbius_resistor-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z"></span>Möbius resistor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Möbius_resistor-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinningspark-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z-Möbius_resistor"></span>More eyes are needed on the recent major expansion of <a href="/wiki/M%C3%B6bius_resistor" title="Möbius resistor">Möbius resistor</a>. The article now claims that this component is, or has been, in use. See my comments at <a href="/wiki/Talk:M%C3%B6bius_resistor#Factual_accuracy" title="Talk:Möbius resistor">Talk:Möbius resistor#Factual accuracy</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinningspark" title="User:Spinningspark"><b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinningspark" title="User talk:Spinningspark"><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Spinningspark-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z-Möbius_resistor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 15 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinningspark-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z-Möbius_resistor"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinningspark-2016-11-15T10:31:00.000Z-Möbius_resistor"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sources_on_Hakko" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sources_on_Hakko-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sources_on_Hakko-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z"></span>Sources on Hakko<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sources_on_Hakko-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hexafluoride-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z-Sources_on_Hakko"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians </p><p>I'm looking to write an article on Hakko, the Japanese company that makes the famous soldering equipment. I need independent sources to meet the criteria of notability, as I can't find anything reliable. And if anyone wants to collaborate on it, they're welcome. (I'm also posting to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Japan" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan">WP:WikiProject Japan</a> to ask for sources in Japanese). —<a href="/wiki/User:Hexafluoride" title="User:Hexafluoride">Hexafluoride</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Template:Reply_to" title="Template:Reply to">Ping me</a> if you need help, or post on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hexafluoride" title="User talk:Hexafluoride">my talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Hexafluoride-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z-Sources_on_Hakko" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 25 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hexafluoride-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z-Sources_on_Hakko"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hexafluoride-2016-11-25T16:39:00.000Z-Sources_on_Hakko"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Missing_topics_list" data-mw-thread-id="h-Missing_topics_list-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Missing_topics_list-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z"></span>Missing topics list<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Missing_topics_list-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skysmith-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z-Missing_topics_list"></span>My list of <a href="/wiki/User:Skysmith/Missing_topics_about_Electricity" title="User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Electricity">missing topics related to electicity</a> is updated - <a href="/wiki/User:Skysmith" title="User:Skysmith">Skysmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skysmith" title="User talk:Skysmith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Skysmith-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z-Missing_topics_list" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 8 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skysmith-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z-Missing_topics_list"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skysmith-2017-01-08T19:29:00.000Z-Missing_topics_list"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ElCompLib_-_guide" data-mw-thread-id="h-ElCompLib_-_guide-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ElCompLib_-_guide-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z"></span>ElCompLib - guide<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ElCompLib_-_guide-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikimpan-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z-ElCompLib_-_guide"></span>Thre is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Electronics#Using_a_vector_editor_and_prepared_components" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronics">a guide to ElCompLib</a> that suggests using 1mm or 2mm grid and 1mm connections. However, the SVG uses pixels, not millimeters. To make it worse pins were no longer aligned to the grid for some time. </p><p>I’ve re-aligned everything to the closest available grid (7px, with 3.5px thickness for connections), but this invalidates the guide. What would be the best way to solve the situation? --<a href="/wiki/User:Wikimpan" title="User:Wikimpan">Wikimpan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikimpan" title="User talk:Wikimpan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6#c-Wikimpan-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z-ElCompLib_-_guide" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 25 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikimpan-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z-ElCompLib_-_guide"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikimpan-2017-01-25T16:27:00.000Z-ElCompLib_-_guide"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6&oldid=1146513700">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electronics/Archive_6&oldid=1146513700</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 25 March 2023, at 10:37<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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