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class="autocomment"><a href="#text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working">→<bdi dir="ltr">text-decoration:overline CSS not working</bdi></a>: </span> script</span></div><div id="mw-diff-otitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-otitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JoKalliauer&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=372311862" title="User talk:JoKalliauer" id="differences-prevlink">← Older edit</a></div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-ntitle diff-side-added"><div id="mw-diff-ntitle1"><strong><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JoKalliauer&amp;oldid=372312025" title="User talk:JoKalliauer">Revision as of 14:11, 28 October 2019</a> <span class="mw-diff-edit"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JoKalliauer&amp;action=edit&amp;oldid=372312025" title="User talk:JoKalliauer">edit</a></span><span class="mw-diff-timestamp" data-timestamp="2019-10-28T14:11:51Z"></span> <span class="mw-diff-undo"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JoKalliauer&amp;action=edit&amp;undoafter=372311862&amp;undo=372312025" 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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" class="mw-userlink" title="User:Perhelion" data-mw-revid="372312025"><bdi>Perhelion</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Perhelion" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Perhelion">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Perhelion" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Perhelion">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Commons:Autopatrollers" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:Autopatrollers">Autopatrollers</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>47,319</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"><abbr class="minoredit" title="This is a minor edit">m</abbr> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working">→<bdi dir="ltr">text-decoration:overline CSS not working</bdi></a>: </span> lf</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JoKalliauer&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=372312025" title="User talk:JoKalliauer" id="differences-nextlink">Newer edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1,182:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1,182:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:I would optimize the file (for having an easier bug-example) and extract a miminal (not) working example, and write a [[phab:]]-Bug-Report.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:I would optimize the file (for having an easier bug-example) and extract a miminal (not) working example, and write a [[phab:]]-Bug-Report.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>: — [[User:JoKalliauer|Johannes &lt;span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;"&gt;Kalliauer&lt;/span&gt;]] - &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:JoKalliauer|Talk]] &amp;#124; [[Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer|Contributions]]&lt;/small&gt; 08:46, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>: — [[User:JoKalliauer|Johannes &lt;span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;"&gt;Kalliauer&lt;/span&gt;]] - &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:JoKalliauer|Talk]] &amp;#124; [[Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer|Contributions]]&lt;/small&gt; 08:46, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:: [[Special:Diff/370728675/372263278|<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">{{fixed}}</del>]] the SVG script, thanks for the ping. &lt;span style="white-space:nowrap;color:#456;"&gt; -- ''[[User: Perhelion]]'' &lt;small&gt;14:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:: [[Special:Diff/370728675/372263278|<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Fixed</ins>]] the SVG script, thanks for the ping. &lt;span style="white-space:nowrap;color:#456;"&gt; -- ''[[User: Perhelion]]'' &lt;small&gt;14:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:As you already saw, I created [[:File:T236398.svg]] and [[phab:T236398]] (It's independed if CSS or xml-Attribut).  — [[User:JoKalliauer|Johannes &lt;span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;"&gt;Kalliauer&lt;/span&gt;]] - &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:JoKalliauer|Talk]] &amp;#124; [[Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer|Contributions]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:As you already saw, I created [[:File:T236398.svg]] and [[phab:T236398]] (It's independed if CSS or xml-Attribut).  — [[User:JoKalliauer|Johannes &lt;span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;"&gt;Kalliauer&lt;/span&gt;]] - &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:JoKalliauer|Talk]] &amp;#124; [[Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer|Contributions]]&lt;/small&gt; 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restoration</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Rsvg_bug"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Rsvg bug</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Troubling_edits"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Troubling edits</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">File:20T superconducting magnet.png</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#wordmark"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">wordmark</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Fake_SVG"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Fake SVG</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Is_this_a_known_bug?"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Is this a known bug?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#gnuplot"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">gnuplot</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Script"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Script</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">A barnstar for you!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Another_librsvg_bug"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Another librsvg bug</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Original.svg"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Thanks a lot for your help on File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Original.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#File:Элемент_плана_Красногвардейска_1939_года_на_экране_монитора.JPG_and_others"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">File:Элемент плана Красногвардейска 1939 года на экране монитора.JPG and others</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Problem mit File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#New_bug?"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">New bug?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#PDF_burning"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">PDF burning</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..."><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Eintragː Dieses SVG-Bild enthält eingebettete Rastergrafiken...</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Problems_with_multi-language_detection"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Problems with multi-language detection</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Fixing phab:T35245 in (R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Neue Dateiversion hochladen?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Full_bucket.svg"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Full bucket.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#BOT_request"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">BOT request</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Kategorisierung CC-BY-ND.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Notification_about_possible_deletion"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Notification about possible deletion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title.svg"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Copyright status: File:Xfig splash logo.png, File:Xfig-logo.png, File:Xfig-title.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#&quot;f.e.&quot;"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">"f.e."</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#File:Sumerian_figurine.png"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">File:Sumerian figurine.png</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">File:Pikachu Pillows.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Link"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Link</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#File:Greater_Manchester_Railways_map.svg"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">File:Greater Manchester Railways map.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Logo-SH-web.svg"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Logo-SH-web.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Administrator"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">Administrator</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Edit_request"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Edit request</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#Blacklist"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">Blacklist</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#File:Intercultural_competence.svg"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">File:Intercultural competence.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#librsvg_and_linearGradient"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">librsvg and linearGradient</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#Thank_you"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">Thank you</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Rsvg_bugs"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext">Rsvg bugs</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Neue_Vorlage"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext">Neue Vorlage</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#File:Antarctica.svg"><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext">File:Antarctica.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext">File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#BadPDF_/_superseded"><span class="tocnumber">44</span> <span class="toctext">BadPDF / superseded</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019_-_Brasil"><span class="tocnumber">45</span> <span class="toctext">Wiki Loves Monuments 2019 - Brasil</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-46"><a href="#Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="tocnumber">46</span> <span class="toctext">Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="tocnumber">47</span> <span class="toctext">Reminder: Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/"><span class="tocnumber">48</span> <span class="toctext">webservice restart https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2"><span class="tocnumber">49</span> <span class="toctext">Reminder: Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner"><span class="tocnumber">50</span> <span class="toctext">SVG Layers und svgcleaner</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#protection_level"><span class="tocnumber">51</span> <span class="toctext">protection level</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-52"><a href="#In_regards_to_File:Test.svg"><span class="tocnumber">52</span> <span class="toctext">In regards to File:Test.svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-53"><a href="#pfeile_in_svg"><span class="tocnumber">53</span> <span class="toctext">pfeile in svg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-54"><a href="#zweite_Meinung"><span class="tocnumber">54</span> <span class="toctext">zweite Meinung</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-55"><a href="#admin_work"><span class="tocnumber">55</span> <span class="toctext">admin work</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-56"><a href="#text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working"><span class="tocnumber">56</span> <span class="toctext">text-decoration:overline CSS not working</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-57"><a href="#Proposal"><span class="tocnumber">57</span> <span class="toctext">Proposal</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-58"><a href="#File:Splicesome.svg"><span class="tocnumber">58</span> <span class="toctext">File:Splicesome.svg</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:comparison_land_area_units.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:comparison land area units.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg"></span>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p> Thanks for uploading a workaround for <a href="/wiki/File:Comparison_land_area_units.svg" title="File:Comparison land area units.svg">File:comparison_land_area_units.svg</a>. In case you see this bug in the future, it was because I used an obsolete DOCTYPE. I no longer get question marks after updating it to </p><div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></pre></div> <p>The squashing of text is another issue: librsvg struggles with very small font sizes (2.5 px in this case). When I have time and inclination, I'll redraw it at 1000% to get sensible sizes. </p><p>Cheers,<br/> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user:cmglee"><b>cmɢʟee</b></a> ⋅<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:cmglee">τaʟκ</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z","author":"Cmglee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"cm\u0262\u029fee"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z-File:comparison_land_area_units.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">Cmglee</a>: </span> I would recommend to use font-sizes of 20px and bigger see <a href="/wiki/File:Fonttest-Kerning.svg" title="File:Fonttest-Kerning.svg">File:Fonttest-Kerning.svg</a>. I used <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://inkscape.org/de/">Inkscape</a> (free and open source) to make it 10 times bigger, I think you don't need to redraw it.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 14 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T13:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Done</bdi></b> I didn't realise there was such a large error as the font-size shrinks. Quite insightful<i>!</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user:cmglee"><b>cmɢʟee</b></a> ⋅<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:cmglee">τaʟκ</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 14 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z","author":"Cmglee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"cm\u0262\u029fee"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T16:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">Cmglee</a>: </span></dd> <dd>There shouldn't be any error, because it is scalable vector graphics, but it is a <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36947" class="extiw" title="phab:T36947">bug</a> of the renderer. An even worse example is here: <a href="/wiki/File:StrekenProvincieUtrecht1.svg" title="File:StrekenProvincieUtrecht1.svg">File:StrekenProvincieUtrecht1.svg</a>. (see old fileversions)</dd> <dd>Was it on purpose that you made the border now dashed? <a href="/wiki/File:Comparison_land_area_units.svg" title="File:Comparison land area units.svg">File:Comparison_land_area_units.svg</a></dd> <dd>I think I will suggest <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Comparison_land_area_units_Workaround.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Comparison land area units Workaround.svg (page does not exist)">File:Comparison land area units Workaround.svg</a> for deletion, since you fixed it yourself.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T20:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z"></span>I realise that it should be scalable and is an librsvg bug, but not how large the error was. I thought that a viewer might think that the hectare is only the rectangle above the acre. Making it dashed makes it more obvious it extends all the way to the bottom. I tend not to be a deletionist, so I'll leave it to you whether you think it should be deleted ;-) Cheers, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user:cmglee"><b>cmɢʟee</b></a> ⋅<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:cmglee">τaʟκ</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Cmglee","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"cm\u0262\u029fee"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2017-12-14T20:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">Cmglee</a>: </span> There is a difference between Doctype and <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></pre></div>. Many suppose to use both: <ol><li><a href="/wiki/SVG_examples" title="SVG examples">SVG_examples</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Quibik/Cleaning_up_SVG_files_manually" title="User:Quibik/Cleaning up SVG files manually">User:Quibik/Cleaning_up_SVG_files_manually</a></li></ol></dd> <dd>However if you dont use a Doctype-Declation you schould use <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></pre></div> anyway.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:36:00.000Z-Cmglee-2017-12-14T21:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SVG_restoration-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SVG restoration&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SVG restoration&quot;}--><h2 id="SVG_restoration" data-mw-thread-id="h-SVG_restoration-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SVG_restoration-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"></span>SVG restoration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SVG_restoration-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-SVG_restoration-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__9__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SVG_restoration-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SVG restoration&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SVG restoration&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration"></span>Hello. </p><p>When you (totally) overwrite my fixes with your fixes, then also remove files from <a href="/wiki/Category:Retouched_by_Incnis_Mrsi" title="Category:Retouched by Incnis Mrsi">my category</a>, please. BTW, <a href="/wiki/Category:Retouched_by_editor" title="Category:Retouched by editor">where is</a> <i>your</i> category? <a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z-SVG_restoration"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a>: </span></dd> <dd>I retouched more than 100files<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=500&amp;user=JoKalliauer">[1]</a>. I don't have a <a href="/wiki/Category:Retouched_by_editor" title="Category:Retouched by editor">Category:Retouched by editor</a> I only have <a href="/wiki/Category:Uploaded_by_JoKalliauer" title="Category:Uploaded by JoKalliauer">Category:Uploaded_by_JoKalliauer</a><s>, I might create it</s>. I created <a href="/wiki/Category:Retouched_by_JoKalliauer" title="Category:Retouched by JoKalliauer">Category:Retouched by JoKalliauer</a>.</dd> <dd>The reason why I restore older versions is that you sometimes remove flow text as in <a href="/wiki/File:H-R_diagram_NL.svg" title="File:H-R diagram NL.svg">File:H-R_diagram_NL.svg</a>, therefore I fix the file on my own.</dd> <dd>If you want to remove the black squares: please instead of completely removing <code>&lt;rect></code>-tag add Transparency-attribution with <code>fill-opacity="0"</code> in the code of the <code>&lt;rect></code>-tag then the wikiparser does not show the black squares and the flowtext is still existing.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Example of code before:</dd></dl> <p><code>&lt;flowRoot>&lt;flowRegion>&lt;rect x="-375" y="182" width="132" height="8"/>&lt;/flowRegion>&lt;flowPara>Absolute Helderheid&lt;/flowPara>&lt;/flowRoot></code> </p> <dl><dd>solution without removing the flowtext, but removing the black squares in the Wiki-Parser:</dd></dl> <p><code>&lt;flowRoot>&lt;flowRegion>&lt;rect x="-375" y="182" width="132" height="8" fill-opacity="0"/>&lt;/flowRegion>&lt;flowPara>Absolute Helderheid&lt;/flowPara>&lt;/flowRoot></code> </p> <dl><dd>Then you make the rectangle transparent, but it is still needed/available for the size of the flow text (color and transparency is unimportant)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I first wanted to check other problems in <a href="/wiki/Category:Images_restored_by_SVG_cleanup" title="Category:Images restored by SVG cleanup">Category:Images_restored_by_SVG_cleanup</a> and then tell you a summary.</dd></dl> <dl><dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T09:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z"></span>Also in <a href="/wiki/File:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE.svg" title="File:Модель Клейна геометрии Лобачевского.svg">File:Модель Клейна геометрии Лобачевского.svg</a> you removed not empty flowting text.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Due to lack of time, I won't add old images to <a href="/wiki/Category:Retouched_by_JoKalliauer" title="Category:Retouched by JoKalliauer">Category:Retouched by JoKalliauer</a> (at least not now).</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T09:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span id="’"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z"></span> In Модель Клейна <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> also injected (Microsoft Office)-beloved «’» U+2019 (with <i>very distinctively</i> comma-like glyph in the font used) instead of «′». Fortunately you removed my 7-years-old shame out of sight today. <a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T10:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"></span>Found the presumed pitfall. You could read «′» (wikicode and HTML: <tt>&amp;prime;</tt>) as the typographic apostrophe (HTML: <tt>&amp;apos;</tt>) and deemed that it describes a change that might be desirable. <a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:52:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"></span>Thanks I didn't notice that. I <a href="/wiki/File:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE.svg" title="File:Модель Клейна геометрии Лобачевского.svg">reverted</a> to your version and added:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="poem"> <p> &lt;g font-family="Liberation Sans" font-size="20" font-style="italic"><br/>   &lt;text x="192.43" y="265.93">A&lt;/text><br/>   &lt;text x="268.7" y="186.49">B&lt;/text><br/>   &lt;text x="70.56" y="161.83">O&lt;/text><br/>  &lt;/g> </p> </div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T14:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z"></span>It’s waring that we have communication troubles for such a nonce. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> know my English grammar is intelligible enough. And there was no visible pretext to interpret <a href="#’">my message above</a> as a kind of sarcasm. <a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T15:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"></span>Ups, Sorry I didn't read properly  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T16:12:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a>: </span></dd> <dd>Because I saw you edited <a href="/wiki/Category:Images_with_SVG_1.2_features" title="Category:Images with SVG 1.2 features">Category:Images_with_SVG_1.2_features</a>, I just wrote 3 solutions how to <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer/RepairFlowRoot" title="User:JoKalliauer/RepairFlowRoot">User:JoKalliauer/RepairFlowRoot</a>, the solution I told you before is the easiest, but the flow-text wont get displayed, the other two solutions are proper solutions.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-01-14T19:02:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-01-14T15:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rsvg_bug-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rsvg bug&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rsvg bug&quot;}--><h2 id="Rsvg_bug" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rsvg_bug-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rsvg_bug-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Rsvg_bug" title="Template:Rsvg bug">Rsvg bug</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rsvg_bug-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rsvg_bug-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","timestamp":"2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rsvg_bug-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rsvg bug&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rsvg bug&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span>Hallo Johannes, falls du mit den <i>bugs</i> weitermachen willst: jetzt sollte alles stimmen, incl. der automatischen Kategorisierung: generell sind alle bug-Kategorien aus den Dateibechreibungen zu entfernen. Du sagst mir wenn dir etwas auffällt! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Warum wird <a href="/wiki/File:AMPS_World_Sectors.svg" title="File:AMPS World Sectors.svg">File:AMPS World Sectors.svg</a> von <a href="/wiki/Template:Technically_replaced" title="Template:Technically replaced">{{Technically replaced}}</a> in <a href="/wiki/Category:Pictures_showing_a_librsvg_bug_(overwritten_with_a_workaround)" title="Category:Pictures showing a librsvg bug (overwritten with a workaround)">Category:Pictures_showing_a_librsvg_bug_(overwritten_with_a_workaround)</a> einsortiert? <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-11T09:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z"></span>Ich habe es jetzt geandert, in <a href="/wiki/Template:Technically_replaced/layout" title="Template:Technically replaced/layout">Technically replaced/layout</a>, auf den Parameter fur "replaced"; hat sich von 6 auf 7 verschoben weil ich kurzfristig den Grund "compatibility" eingeschoben hatte. Danke fur den Hinweis! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-05-11T16:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-11T14:08:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span>Hier ein Hinweis fur dich, ich denke du hast es noch nicht bemerkt: <a href="/wiki/Template:Autotranslate" title="Template:Autotranslate">{{Autotranslate}}</a> kann <u>nur</u> <i>unbenannte</i> Parameter (1 bis max. 15) weitergeben/durchreichen, aber keine benannten! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <p>Hallo, es scheint nicht so einfach einen <a href="/wiki/Commons:User_scripts#Users_with_script_experience_that_may_help" title="Commons:User scripts">Javascript</a>-Kundigen zu finden, der auch aktiv ist... ich habe es mal bei <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnus_Manske#Hilferuf" title="User talk:Magnus Manske">Magnus</a> versucht. Ich hoffe, wir konnen bald statt dem leeren default ein "U" bekommen; an die 10.000 Inkscape-Zuordnungen zu untersuchen um ev. nachtraglich den Leerwert zu ersetzen erscheint viel zu aufwendig - da sollte die Scriptanderung schneller gehen. Hilft klarerweise nur in der Zukunft! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:46, 17 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z"></span>Mit Magnus' Hilfe habe ich es hinbekommen, das <tt>Unknown tool</tt> als default vorzuschlagen (du weisst, dass nun auch alle SVGs von Texteditor da hineinfallen!). Weil das script <i>protected</i> ist brauche ich wieder mal einen Admin, um die Korrektur wirksam werden zu lassen; ich hoffe dass es bald geschieht. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 18 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-17T06:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z"></span>Danke! euch beiden</dd> <dd>Es war schon so seit dem ich das Skript kenne (Monate), also wenn es noch einige Tage so ist, fände ich es nicht tragisch, auch wenn es nervig ist. <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 18 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-18T17:42:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-18T16:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span>Ich habe die bug-Kategorien ein wenig in Ordnung gebracht, und Dateien entkategorisiert. Dabei sah ich, dass du unlängst <a href="/wiki/File:SVG_test_text_tspan_ws.svg" title="File:SVG test text tspan ws.svg">SVG test text tspan ws.svg</a> kategorisiert hast: Solche "direkten" Kats durfen nicht erfolgen - <u>nur mit der Vorlage</u>, und dann moglichst mit einem Hinweis <i>was denn</i> buggy ist. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Das weiß ich prinzipiell, passiert mir aber trotzdem manches-mal, oder irgendetwas ist etwas buggy, aber in dem Fall war es glaub ich Perhelion <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:SVG_test_text_tspan_ws.svg&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=125897457">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:SVG_test_text_tspan_ws.svg&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=125897457</a> Oder meinst du etwas anderes? <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 20 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, du hast recht, er war es - ich weiss nicht was er meinte. Aber ich weiss nun 100% dass du es weisst und richtig machst! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 20 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-05-20T14:57:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T14:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span>Ich glaub es noch nicht ganz: Perhelion ist wieder da! nach ganzen 2 Monaten. <small>--<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a></small> </p><p>Das freut mich sehr. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/20px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/30px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/40px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> Ich werde ihm wieder willkommen heißen, aber ich würde ihm mal Zeit lassen, hat sich sicher viel bei ihm aufgestaut, vielleicht brauchte er auch mal eine Wiki-Pause. Ich hoffe, dass er wieder voll zurück ist. <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 20 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-05-20T20:28:00.000Z-Rsvg_bug"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Troubling_edits-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Troubling edits&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Troubling edits&quot;}--><h2 id="Troubling_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Troubling_edits-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Troubling_edits-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span>Troubling edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Troubling_edits-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Troubling_edits-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Troubling_edits-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Troubling edits&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Troubling edits&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits"></span>Although I commend your efforts to fix many SVG files, I am troubled by how you implement some fixes. For example, I am troubled by edits that unnecessarily fork new versions of files and characterize the SVG 1.1 <code>librsvg</code> as having bugs because it does not implement SVG 1.2 additions. Failing to conform to a later draft is not a bug. </p><p>For example, <a href="/wiki/File:Crossen1650.svg" title="File:Crossen1650.svg">File:Crossen1650.svg</a> uses (draft) SVG 1.2 flowRoot. Instead of fixing that issue and uploading an SVG 1.1 version of the file, you forked a new file, <a href="/wiki/File:Crossen1650_Workaround.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:Crossen1650 Workaround.svg">File:Crossen1650 Workaround.svg</a>, and left an alleged error message ("This SVG map shows a librsvg bug. Bug replaced description: phab:T43424 Flow region error") at the original location.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Crossen1650.svg&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=302221862">[2]</a> Why didn't you just upload the fix at the original location? </p><p>Please upload your SVG 1.1 version to the original file location (<a href="/wiki/File:Crossen1650.svg" title="File:Crossen1650.svg">File:Crossen1650.svg</a>), remove the technically replaced text, and request deletion of <a href="/wiki/File:Crossen1650_Workaround.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:Crossen1650 Workaround.svg">File:Crossen1650 Workaround.svg</a>. </p><p>Those steps should be done to other "workaround" file forks. For example, <a href="/wiki/File:Mt_Etna_system_cross_section_Workaround.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:Mt Etna system cross section Workaround.svg">File:Mt Etna system cross section Workaround.svg</a>. </p><p>Please do not create "workaround" versions when the problem can be fixed at the original location. Just fix the original file. That keeps a sensible file history and avoids unneeded copies. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z","c-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z-Troubling_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span>I thought, because <a href="/wiki/Category:Pictures_formerly_showing_a_librsvg_bug" title="Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug">Category:Pictures_formerly_showing_a_librsvg_bug</a> is a category for "so that we can check them again in future upgrades.", there is a consensus of keeping (and not overwriting) files shows librsvgbugs. For files which have a proper error, I overwrite files. Since <a href="/wiki/Commons:Overwriting_existing_files" title="Commons:Overwriting existing files">Commons:Overwriting_existing_files</a> says you should only overwrite files if you are sure that it is ok, I thought it is the suggested way to replace it with a different version. Replacing flowRoot with Text is in my opinion similar to "Digital restoration" (which should not be overwritten). For example in <a href="/wiki/File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg" title="File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg">File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg</a> it is in my opinion problematic to overwrite the file, because if you don't have the specified font, the line-break do not look nice, therefore flowRoot should be kept in the file. But since <a href="/wiki/Category:Oxygen_icons_mimetypes" title="Category:Oxygen icons mimetypes">Category:Oxygen_icons_mimetypes</a> are too many files with similar issues, the files should be overwritten as done by <a href="/wiki/User:Thomas_Linard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Thomas Linard">User:Thomas Linard</a>.</dd> <dd>I would prefer to not create new files, because then I have less administrative work to do.</dd> <dd>If you prefer I can ask for a merge of such files, but as said I thought all files containing a librsvgbug should be keept to track render-problems.</dd> <dd>In future I will overwrite files more often, and if I am unsure I will ask someone with more experience (like you).</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Category:Pictures_formerly_showing_a_librsvg_bug" title="Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug</a> is a silly category. If a file is fixed, then it is fixed. One need not check a fixed file later. I do not see a benefit to such a category, and file page annotations that say things such as a previous version has 47 SVG verification errors is not helpful. If the flowRoot (or other problem) has been removed, then what is the point of checking whether flowRoot works?</dd> <dd>Eliminating flowRoot should not be objectionable. Almost no user agents support flowRoot, so it should be viewed as a minor mistake by the illustrator/uploader. In most cases, replacing the flowRoot will not significantly change the intended appearance of the image.</dd> <dd>The <a href="/wiki/File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg" title="File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg">File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg</a> is not a good counterexample because it is not about the same issue. Making the background text more visible is probably not objectionable to the original uploader. If the original Oxygen icon has the more visible text, then it is clearly an improvement. In any event, adjusting the background text should be viewed as a minor change. Having two similar images presents problems down the road. If somebody wants to the use the icon, then how does she decide which background to use? Does the background make any semantic difference?</dd> <dd>The issue is more that flowRoot is marginal and unsupported rather than trying to preserve flowRoot's line breaking. There are ways to edit flowRoot files to be SVG 1.1 and draft SVG 2.0 compatible (<code>style="inline-size: 200px"</code>), but I am not aware of an SVG agent that currently supports such line breaking.</dd> <dd>Digital restoration means something different. Often someone will scan an image from an old book; the scan is the most accurate information about the page and should be preserved. The paper may have yellowed, so it may be sensible to color correct (restore) the image. The digital restoration issue is that the color corrected image should be at a new file name. The issues can get even more involved; see <a href="/wiki/Category:K%C3%B6hlers_Medizinal-Pflanzen" title="Category:Köhlers Medizinal-Pflanzen">Category:Köhlers Medizinal-Pflanzen</a>. Digital restoration refers to operations such as color correction, dust removal, scratch removal, and unsharp masking.</dd> <dd>You have fixed far more files than I.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T20:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Category:Pictures_formerly_showing_a_librsvg_bug" title="Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z"></span>Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug</a> is for files which have not been fixed, but the update of the renderer did solve the problem (f.e. with <code>?action=purge</code>)</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg" title="File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg">File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg</a> The font "ScriptS" is a very unknown font, even to google, therefore the textlength will differ on every computer, depending on the fallbackfont, if the font is longer than the page it does not look nice, also the current version, where the text is shorter than the page, does also look strange (correct rendering: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/KDE/oxygen-icons5/blob/master/256x256/mimetypes/application-rtf.png">https://github.com/KDE/oxygen-icons5/blob/master/256x256/mimetypes/application-rtf.png</a>).</dd> <dd>If you work with Inkscape and render pngs on your own, you don't care about useragents. For files as in <a href="/wiki/File:Vergleich_zwischen_Manga_und_Foto_(nur_Zeichnung).svg" title="File:Vergleich zwischen Manga und Foto (nur Zeichnung).svg">File:Vergleich_zwischen_Manga_und_Foto_(nur_Zeichnung).svg</a>, or <a href="/wiki/File:Dojikko2.3.svg" title="File:Dojikko2.3.svg">File:Dojikko2.3.svg</a> you will always update SVG and PNG/JPG simultaneously, because the <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/36/20180101142703%21Dojikko2.3.svg">Dojikko2.3.svg</a> contains filters,textPath,... and other thinks librsvg wont be able to render in near future, also big thumbs (larger than ~800px, especially in the larger original version) of Dojikko fails, therefore the PNG always has to be created with Inkscape not with librsvg. So sometimes svgs are just the sourcecode to produce pngs in some Program (similar to source-code for Gnuplot or Matlab), and such svgs should not to be implemented in Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>I know what digital restoration is, also I never did it on Wikipedia. (But I wasn't able to find any more proper description for removing librsvgbugs, therefore it was unclear to me, therefore I created new versions.)</dd> <dd>Just because I fixed more files, does not compellable mean that I have more experience. (You have a great knowledge about svg-definitions, I just have some experience how to use programs (inkscape,sour,svgcleaner,svgo) to fix bugs on commons, but that could often be even done just with a bot, f.e. adding jpeg or png to <code>xlink:href=\"data:;base64,</code>) But actually I meant you have more experience about commons guidelines.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T21:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z"></span>Vielen Dank. I misunderstood <a href="/wiki/Category:Pictures_formerly_showing_a_librsvg_bug" title="Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug">Category:Pictures formerly showing a librsvg bug</a>.</dd> <dd>Yes, there are many files that <code>librsvg</code> cannot handle, so other methods must be used.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-06-23T15:45:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-21T22:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span>Some older viewers have trouble with the version of <a href="/wiki/File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg" title="File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg">File:Oxygen480-mimetypes-application-rtf.svg</a> you uploaded 20 June. (same with the "Valid SVG version 1.1." from Thomas) The "Better attempt" version from Thomas doesn't have this issue. - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alexis_Jazz" title="User talk:Alexis Jazz">Alexis Jazz</a> <sup><small>ping plz</small></sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z","author":"Alexis Jazz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-06-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Alexis_Jazz" title="User:Alexis Jazz">Alexis Jazz</a>: </span> The linebreaks are more similar to the png in my version, therefore I undid Thomas version, when removing <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55899" class="extiw" title="phab:T55899">phab:T55899</a>-Waring from <a href="/wiki/Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker" title="Commons:Commons SVG Checker">Commons:Commons SVG Checker</a>, but I reverted my edit. Since I try to fix several files: For future-Problems: I would like to know which viewers have which problem with my version.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Alexis_Jazz-2018-06-21T22:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z"></span>My two cents: in the case of Oxygen icons, we've the original sources easily available on GitHub, with the original PNG export (we can assume safely that these PNG convoy the authors original intent). So, I don't think we should preserve the original code (flowRoot, for example) with a -Workaround.svg version: I agree with <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>, we can safely fix the original file. If someone wants the original code: go to GitHub or download an old version. In my view, the primary purpose of hosting SVG icons on Commons is to provide UI icons for the various Wikimedia projects, not to display a museum of old SVG horrors. Furthermore, I hope we'll overcome soon <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193352" class="extiw" title="phab:T193352">phab:T193352</a>, so we'll need less tricks and workarounds (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55899" class="extiw" title="phab:T55899">phab:T55899</a> is fixed in the latest version of librsvg). <a href="/wiki/User:Thomas_Linard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Thomas Linard">Thomas Linard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thomas_Linard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Thomas Linard"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z","author":"Thomas Linard","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-1"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z"></span>For the Oxygen icons, we three agree that they should be overwritten using three different arguments.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-1"></span>As said before, I will more often overwrite files. (I don't have a strong opinion on that therefore i agree with everything the community recommends.)</dd> <dd>I think we agreed on the mayor points.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-1","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-06-22T18:51:00.000Z-Thomas_Linard-2018-06-22T15:35:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:20T superconducting magnet.png&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:20T superconducting magnet.png&quot;}--><h2 id="File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png" title="File:20T superconducting magnet.png">File:20T superconducting magnet.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png","timestamp":"2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:20T superconducting magnet.png&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:20T superconducting magnet.png&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table class="layouttemplate" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:0; 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&amp;action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 26 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-06-26T04:15:00.000Z-File:20T_superconducting_magnet.png"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-wordmark-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;wordmark&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;wordmark&quot;}--><h2 id="wordmark" data-mw-thread-id="h-wordmark-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-wordmark-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"></span>wordmark<span data-mw-comment-end="h-wordmark-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-wordmark-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-wordmark-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;wordmark&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;wordmark&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark"></span>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p>Can you make <a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_wordmark-ur.svg" title="File:Wikipedia wordmark-ur.svg">wordmarks</a> for Punjabi &amp; Sindhi Wikipedia?— <a href="/wiki/User:BukhariSaeed" class="mw-redirect" title="User:BukhariSaeed"><font color="#0080C0"><font face="Cursive"><b>Bukhari</b></font></font></a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:BukhariSaeed" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:BukhariSaeed"><b><font face="Cursive"><font color="0080C0">(Talk!)</font></font></b></a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z","author":"BukhariSaeed","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Bukhari"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z-wordmark"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:BukhariSaeed" class="mw-redirect" title="User:BukhariSaeed">BukhariSaeed</a>: </span> Sorry for not answering you might ask at: <a href="/wiki/Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop" title="Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop">Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop</a> for creating SVGs  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 22 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-22T23:47:00.000Z-BukhariSaeed-2018-07-16T04:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Fake_SVG-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Fake SVG&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Fake SVG&quot;}--><h2 id="Fake_SVG" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fake_SVG-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fake_SVG-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Fake_SVG" title="Category:Fake SVG">Fake SVG</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fake_SVG-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fake_SVG-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__12__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Fake_SVG-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Fake SVG&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Fake SVG&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG"></span>Hallo Johannes, ist jetzt implementiert, per Igen mit <tt>!=f</tt> (geht auch mit <a href="/wiki/Template:BadSVG" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:BadSVG">BadSVG</a> 1=f oder 3=f - aber prinzipiell sollte Igen verwendet werden). Gruss --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 16 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z-Fake_SVG"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Bei <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:201802_Human_Female.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:201802 Human Female.svg (page does not exist)">File:201802_Human_Female.svg</a> steht <i>Dieses SVG-Bild enthält f eingebettete Rastergrafiken.</i>. Kannst du nachkontrollieren ob das so passt?  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 16 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-16T11:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z"></span>Naturlich habe ich vorkontrolliert ehe ich die script-Vorschlage ubernommen habe. Auch bei der Nachkontrolle sehe ich, dass dieses Bild {wie viele von Yayamamo) aus exakt 4 SVG statements besteht: &lt;svg, &lt;title, &lt;image und &lt;/svg. Also absolut reines Fake, nach deiner Definition! Der entsprechende <i>Text</i> ist einstweilen nur im englischen environment realisiert, ich weiss nicht ob es dafursteht es in noch ein oder zwei weitere Sprachen einzupflegen (in welcher Sprache verwendest denn du die Commons?) Gruss --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z","c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-16T19:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> ich habe mich über die Implementierung auch gerade gewundert. :P Die Vorlage sollte eine eigenständige sein wie BadSVG und mit den üblichen Tools in ALLE Sprachen übersetzbar sein. Für meinen Geschmack ist auch viel zu viel Text drinnen. Ein einziger kurzer Satz sollte reichen (alles weitere per Link, die ganze Erklärung wie bei BadSVG können wir uns sparen). VG <span style="white-space:nowrap;color:#456;"> -- <i><a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">User: Perhelion</a></i> <small><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a></small></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z","author":"Perhelion","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"User: Perhelion"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">Perhelion</a>: </span> meintest du "eigenständig", so wie BadSVG<b>-t</b> ohne BadSVG auskommt? Eine Art "BadSVG-f" war nämlich meine urspr. Intention - aber das muss ich dann im Igen realisieren. Kann ich machen, ich bin für alle Anregungen und Verbesserungsvorschläge dankbar. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T09:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z"></span>Aja genau, von mir aus auch mit Redirect <a href="/wiki/Template:FakeSVG" title="Template:FakeSVG">Template:FakeSVG</a> <span style="white-space:nowrap;color:#456;"> -- <i><a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">User: Perhelion</a></i> <small><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Perhelion","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T11:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"User: Perhelion"}}--></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Danke, Mein Fehler ich verwende "de-AT...Österreichisches Deutsch". Genau das wollte ich haben. Danke!! Aber es tut sich mir die Frage auf, was wir für nicht vorhandene Sprachversionen wählen: statt "enthält f eingebettete Rastergrafiken" würde ich wählen "enthält 1 eingebettete Rastergrafiken" oder "enthält fake eingebettete Rastergrafiken" (also das Englische Wort "fake" statt der Anzahl) nehmen, ich würde zu "1" tendieren, wenn das sinnvoll machbar ist.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T11:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Ich würde die Ergänzung einfach weglassen, alles andere macht nicht wirklich Sinn. <span style="white-space:nowrap;color:#456;"> -- <i><a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">User: Perhelion</a></i> <small><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a></small></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z","author":"Perhelion","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z","c-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"User: Perhelion"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-17T17:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">Perhelion</a>: </span> ich hatte zu BadSVG-f tendiert, in Analogie zu dem -t (-f ist ja wirklich bad/worse, -t hingegen nicht: der Name kann schnell geandert werden, zB TopoSVG?). Das Template:<a href="/wiki/Template:FakeSVG" title="Template:FakeSVG">FakeSVG</a> ware vorerst ein <i>stub</i> wie das Template:<a href="/wiki/Template:TopoSVG" title="Template:TopoSVG">TopoSVG</a> mit nur englischem Text - das kann ja jederzeit auf ostbayrisch, de-at etc. aufgebohrt werden. Mit eigener Vorlage vermeiden wir, dass bei Nichtenglandern unsinniger Text ausgegeben wird, besser vorerst nur englisch aber das richtig! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-07-17T20:47:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"></span>Hallo Johannes, naturlich kann ich das ganze auch internationalisieren - eingeschrankt, weil ich die meisten Sprachen nicht spreche und mit den "<a href="/wiki/Special:ListUsers/translationadmin" title="Special:ListUsers/translationadmin">translation admins</a>" habe ich keine positiven Erfahrungen. Fur osterreichisches Deutsch reicht es aber noch. Ich kann neben <tt>en</tt> noch <tt>de</tt> (<tt>de-at</tt>?), <tt>es, fr, pt</tt> selbst ubersetzen, nicht jedoch alles andere wie zB serbokroatisch, thailandisch und eskimoisch. Vorerst mal kommt die Meldung ausschliesslich in relativ astreinem Englisch, und fur <b>alle</b> nicht vorhandenen Sprachen wird dann sinnvollerweise dieses Englisch als default genommen. Ach ja: wie ubersetze ich denn "Fake-SVG" am besten auf <tt>de-at</tt>? (ohne pejorativ zu werden!) --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 19 July 2018 (UTC)</a> <span style="visibility:hidden; color:transparent;">0</span> PS: dein <a href="/wiki/File:Bouncywikilogo.gif" title="File:Bouncywikilogo.gif">Bouncywikilogo.gif</a> nervt schrecklich<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z-Perhelion-2018-07-17T19:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Internationalisierung ist nicht notwendig, ich fand nur <i>enthält <b>f</b> eingebette Rastergrafiken</i> etwas verwirrend, dachte ursprünglich es wäre ein codeing-Fehler.</dd> <dd>Ich glaube, "de-AT Österreichisches Deutsch" greift standardmäßig auf "de" zu, wenn "de-AT" nicht existiert und "de-AT" macht definitiv keinen Sinn (Wartung,...). Ich kenne auch keinen Unterschied zwischen "de Deutsch" und "de-AT Österreichisches Deutsch" (außer dass in der Kopfzeile "Österreichisches Deutsch" neben den eigenen Benutzernamen steht), man kann es aber jedenfalls in den <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a> wählen. Ich kenne keine Österreichische Vorlage, wüsste auch nicht wo das Sinn hätte, es gibt glaub ich Unterschiede in der Rechtschreibung, jedoch ist mir keiner bekannt (die Schweiz hingegen hat z.B. keine scharfen ss (ß), in Ö und D gibt es seit einem Jahr auch ein <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gro%C3%9Fes_%C3%9F" class="extiw" title="de:Großes ß">de:Großes_ß</a>).</dd> <dd>Mir reicht eine englische Version, ich mag es auch dir überlassen ob man andere Sprachen auf die Übersetzung <a href="/wiki/Template:Bad_SVG" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Bad SVG">{{Bad SVG}}</a> zurückfallen lässt (mit ev. anderen Layout) oder wie von dir vorgeschlagen auf die Englische zurückfällt.</dd> <dd>Ich bin ein kleiner Idealist, deshalb würde ich mir auch eine <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto" class="extiw" title="de:Esperanto">de:Esperanto</a>-Version (diplomatische Plansprache) wünschen, spricht zwar "keiner" (ich auch nicht), aber bei der aktuellen politischen <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First" class="extiw" title="de:America First">Weltlage</a> finde ich dass man sich mehr den je zu Europäischen Werten und diplomatischen Werten bekennen soll.</dd> <dd>Bezüglich <a href="/wiki/File:Bouncywikilogo.gif" title="File:Bouncywikilogo.gif">Bouncywikilogo.gif</a> fällt mir nicht mal mehr auf (außerdem verschwindet es eh hinter dem Bearbeitungsfeld, also es schrenkt es mMn nichts wesentliches ein), meistens editiere ich auch nur den Abschnitt (auch um keine Bearbeitungskonflikte zu bekommen), da erscheint es dann nicht in der Vorschau. Ich bin zwar aus moralischer Sicht kein Fan von AdBlockern, aber die geben einen die Möglichkeit bestimme Inhalte (z.B. nervige Bilder) auszufiltern. (Aber werde ich jetzt ohnehin entfernen.)  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-19T20:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-19T16:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Ja, at fallt auf <tt>de</tt> zuruck. Es gibt eine Menge <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austriazismen" class="extiw" title="de:Austriazismen">Austriazismen</a>, vielleicht kann man (mit Gewalt) Text so gestalten dass so ein Begriff vorkommt? Oder in <a href="/wiki/Template:Igen/top" title="Template:Igen/top">Igen/top</a> etwas verwenden? Fur scharfes s sehe ich keine Einsatzmoglichkeit, schon gar nicht als Majuskel; wir sind uns doch einig, dass wir <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorativum" class="extiw" title="de:Pejorativum">Pejorativa</a> wie zB "SCHEIẞ SVG code" vermeiden wollen.</dd> <dd>Esperanto gibt es bereits bei den <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Created_with_..." title="Template talk:Created with ...">created with</a>-Vorlagen, zuvor nur ganz wenige aber nun konnen <i>alle</i> Vorlagen auch das; kannst du ausprobieren wenn du willst.</dd> <dd>"enthält f eingebette..." war ein Fehler von mir, weil ich schnell mal die "alte" Vorlage nahm und nicht berucksichtigt hatte dass diese zu ubersetzen versucht. Ich habe es einstweilen nicht so eilig die I18n voranzutreiben, um "Fake" in 50 Sprachen zu ubersetzen.</dd> <dd>Das Bouncywikilogo ist ja eine recht drollige Variation des WP-Logos, aber wenn standig etwas rumtut und in den Augenwinkeln rumwackelt kann das durchaus irritieren. Wenn oben links die at-Flagge weht stort das ja nicht, aber das GIF-Bild hat mich ja uberall hin verfolgt! Ich hatte damit leben konnen, aber danke, so ist es IMHO besser. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-07-20T07:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-07-17T04:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Is_this_a_known_bug?-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?&quot;,&quot;c-Glrx-2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Is this a known bug?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Is this a known bug?&quot;}--><h2 id="Is_this_a_known_bug?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_this_a_known_bug?-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"><span id="Is_this_a_known_bug.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_this_a_known_bug?-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Is this a known bug?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_this_a_known_bug?-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Is_this_a_known_bug?-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?","c-Glrx-2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Glrx-2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?","timestamp":"2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__11__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Is_this_a_known_bug?-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?&quot;,&quot;c-Glrx-2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Is this a known bug?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Is this a known bug?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r914379029">.mw-parser-output .tracked{float:right;clear:right;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#999);border-radius:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#eee);font-size:85%;text-align:center;padding:0.5em;margin-left:1em;margin-bottom:1em;width:12em;color:var(--color-emphasized,black)}.mw-parser-output .tracked p{margin:0}.mw-parser-output .tracked-url{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tracked .status,.mw-parser-output .tracked-status{font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tracked .status.resolved,.mw-parser-output .tracked-resolved{color:green}.mw-parser-output .tracked .status.critical,.mw-parser-output .tracked-critical{color:red;font-size:1.5em}</style>Tracked in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200443" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T200443"><span class="tracked-url trakfab-T200443">Task T200443</span></a></b><br/><span class="status"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?"></span>See first version of <a href="/wiki/File:2-methylaziridine.svg" title="File:2-methylaziridine.svg">File:2-methylaziridine.svg</a> and the methyl group, H<sub>3</sub>C. It messes up the text block. </p><p><code>text</code> element sets style for <code>text-anchor:end</code>. The the first <code>tspan</code> element starts a text block because it has absolution position attributes. Librsvg ends the first <code>tspan</code> at the anchor point, but then paints the following tspans after the anchor point. All of the tspans belong to one text block, so the block should have ended at the anchor point. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 25 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"></span>I don't know any bugreport about this issue, but:</dd> <dd>In my option it is an example of unintelligent definition of an SVG, see <a href="/wiki/File:Test.svg" title="File:Test.svg">File:Test.svg</a>. (12:41, 26 July 2018)</dd> <dd>I would even say it is rendered correctly, is there a definition how it should be rendered?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-25T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. Here's your SVG: <dl><dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="cp">&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></span> <span class="cp">&lt;!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN' 'http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'></span> <span class="nt">&lt;svg</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-family=</span><span class="s">"Liberation Sans"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-size=</span><span class="s">"10"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">viewBox=</span><span class="s">"5.46 8.78 52.73 18.82"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"red"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">>&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"20"</span><span class="nt">></span>H<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>3C<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"green"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"21"</span><span class="nt">>&lt;tspan></span>H<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>3C<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"blue"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">>&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"22"</span><span class="nt">></span>H3C<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;path</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">d=</span><span class="s">"m34.8 16.2.08.3-.08.3h-11.12v-.6z"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="nt">&lt;/svg></span> </pre></div></dd></dl></dd> <dd><s>I'm surprised it has not turned up before with Inkscape. Inkscape's text elements always put the text in tspans, so the basic pattern in the failing "blue" line should have happened often. Maybe users rarely do <code>text-anchor="end"</code>.</s><ins>("red" line fails)</ins></dd> <dd>All three SVG lines are legal. I've been saying "text block" where I should have said "text chunk". The <code>text-anchor</code> operates on a text chunk. <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/text.html#TextLayoutIntroduction">https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/text.html#TextLayoutIntroduction</a></li></ul></dd> <dd>where it says "Each text chunk represents a separate block of text for alignment due to ‘text-anchor’ property values."</dd> <dd>I tried a few more variations, but don't have a good model of the error.</dd> <dd>Sadly, the error has frustrated <a href="/wiki/User:Hbf878" title="User:Hbf878">User:Hbf878</a> who tried to make text work.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T12:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"></span>The blue line is rendered correctly? Only the definition of red line is still unclear to me. What is a "text chunk",? everything in &lt;text>&lt;/text>?</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Inkscape uses <code>&lt;text style="text-anchor:end" x="24" y="23">&lt;tspan x="24" y="23">H3C&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></code>, so text and tspan have identical koordinates.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> Because you correlated it to text-anchor="end": How should the "red line" in the following code be rendered: <dl><dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="cp">&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></span> <span class="cp">&lt;!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN' 'http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'></span> <span class="nt">&lt;svg</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-family=</span><span class="s">"Liberation Sans"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-size=</span><span class="s">"10"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">viewBox=</span><span class="s">"5.46 8.78 52.73 18.82"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"red"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"start"</span><span class="nt">></span>H3<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"20"</span><span class="nt">></span>C<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"green"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"start"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"21"</span><span class="nt">></span>H3<span class="nt">&lt;tspan></span>C<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"blue"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"start"</span><span class="nt">>&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"22"</span><span class="nt">></span>H3C<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;path</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">d=</span><span class="s">"m34.8 16.2.08.3-.08.3h-11.12v-.6z"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="nt">&lt;/svg></span> </pre></div></dd></dl></dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T14:57:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"></span>I have another question: How should the yellow text be rendered: <dl><dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="cp">&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></span> <span class="cp">&lt;!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN' 'http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'></span> <span class="nt">&lt;svg</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-family=</span><span class="s">"Liberation Sans"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-size=</span><span class="s">"10"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">viewBox=</span><span class="s">"5.46 8.78 52.73 18.82"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"yellow"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">>&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"20"</span><span class="nt">></span>H<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"24"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"21"</span><span class="nt">></span>3<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>C<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;path</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">d=</span><span class="s">"m34.8 16.2.08.3-.08.3h-11.12v-.6z"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="nt">&lt;/svg></span> </pre></div></dd></dl></dd> <dd>I think it is a not defined behavior and therefore everyone is right, and the rendering of librsvg makes more sense to me, than that of common browers or inkscape.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z"></span>The behavior is defined, and librsvg is wrong. A "text chunk" is all the characters from one absolute position adjustment to the next absolute position adjustment. Absolute position adjustments are implied in a text element and also occur in tspan elements with attributes such as <code>x="13"</code> or <code>y="47"</code>. Relative position adjustments such as <code>dy="5"</code> or baseline adjustments do not start a new text chunk.</dd> <dd>The blue line is correct; I was confused. Comment struck.</dd> <dd>In your red line example, "H3" is a text chunk anchored at the default x=0, y=0. The "C" is another text chunk anchored at x=24, y=20.</dd> <dd>In your yellow example, "H" is a text chunk end-anchored at x=24, y=20. The next text chunk is "3C" end-anchored at x=24, y=21. The tspan with "3" starts a new text chunk; the following #text node with "C" does not have any absolute positioning commands, so the "C" is added to the current text chunk.</dd> <dd>The bug appears when there is a tspan element followed by a #text node.</dd> <dd>I filed <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200443" class="extiw" title="phab:T200443">Phab:T200443</a>.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T15:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> Thanks! Now I understand what a text chunk is. (or at least better)</dd> <dd><blockquote class="templatequote language"><p>The ‘text-anchor’ property is applied to each individual text chunk within a given ‘text’ element. Each text chunk has an initial current text position, which represents the point in the user coordinate system resulting from (depending on context) application of the ‘x’ and ‘y’ attributes on the ‘text’ element, any ‘x’ or ‘y’ attribute values on a ‘tspan’, ‘tref’ or ‘altGlyph’ element assigned explicitly to the first rendered character in a text chunk, or determination of the initial current text position for a ‘textPath’ element.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/text.html#AlignmentProperties">https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/text.html#AlignmentProperties</a></div></blockquote></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>What if a text chunk has several alignments as in <a href="/wiki/File:Test.svg" title="File:Test.svg">File:Test.svg</a> (17:25, 26. Jul. 2018)? Does it take the first alignment of the first character?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T16:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span>LMAO. This is going to take some time.</dd> <dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr mw-highlight-lines" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="linenos" data-line="1"></span><span class="cp">&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="2"></span><span class="nt">&lt;svg</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">font-size=</span><span class="s">"25"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">viewBox=</span><span class="s">"0 0 600 600"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="3"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;metadata></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="4"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;rdf:RDF</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns:rdf=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="5"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;cc:Work</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns:cc=</span><span class="s">"http://web.resource.org/cc/"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns:dc=</span><span class="s">"http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="6"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;dc:format></span>image/svg+xml<span class="nt">&lt;/dc:format></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="7"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;dc:type</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">rdf:resource=</span><span class="s">"http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/StillImage"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="8"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;cc:license</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">rdf:resource=</span><span class="s">"http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="9"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;cc:attributionName</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">rdf:resource=</span><span class="s">"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Glrx"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="10"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;cc:attributionURL</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">rdf:resource=</span><span class="s">"https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:SVG_Test_TextAlign.svg"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="11"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;/cc:Work></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="12"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;/rdf:RDF></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="13"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;/metadata></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="14"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;path</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">d=</span><span class="s">"m100 100h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600 50h600m-600-475v450m300-100v250"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke=</span><span class="s">"#000"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="15"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"400"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"450"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">></span>a<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"400"</span><span class="nt">></span>b<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>c<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"500"</span><span class="nt">></span>d<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>e<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="16"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"400"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"550"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">></span>a<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"400"</span><span class="nt">></span>bc<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"600"</span><span class="nt">></span>de<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="17"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="nt">></span>a<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">></span>b<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>c<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"middle"</span><span class="nt">></span>d<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>e<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="18"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"150"</span><span class="nt">></span>a<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"200"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">></span>b<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>c<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"middle"</span><span class="nt">></span>d<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>e<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="19"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"250"</span><span class="nt">></span>a<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">></span>b<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>c<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"300"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"middle"</span><span class="nt">></span>d<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>e<span class="nt">&lt;/text></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="20"></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;text</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"350"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"middle"</span><span class="nt">></span>1<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">text-anchor=</span><span class="s">"end"</span><span class="nt">></span>2<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"400"</span><span class="nt">></span>3<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>4<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan></span>5<span class="nt">&lt;tspan</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">x=</span><span class="s">"100"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">y=</span><span class="s">"450"</span><span class="nt">></span>6<span class="nt">&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></span> <span class="linenos" data-line="21"></span><span class="nt">&lt;/svg></span> </pre></div></dd> <dd>Line 15 (400,450) Each x or y starts a new end-anchored text chunk. "a"| / "bc"| / "de"| (Google/Firefox |"de"; librsvg continues from last x position)</dd> <dd>Line 16 (400,550) is simple. End anchored "a"| / "bc"| / "de"| (Google/Firefox |"de"; librsvg continues from last x position)</dd> <dd>Line 17 (100,100) has problems because anchoring cannot occur within a text chunk. |"abcde" start anchored by original text element.</dd> <dd>Line 18 (100,150) |"a" / "bc"| / "d|e" (librsvg continues from last x position)</dd> <dd>Line 19 (100,200) |"a" / "bc"| / "d|e" (Google/Firefox use strange x to place "de"; librsvg from last x position)</dd> <dd>Line 20 (100,350) "1|2" / |"345" / "|6|" (Google/Firefox "345"| which is capturing text-anchor from any left; reasonable)</dd> <dd>I must read more about this because I'm disagreeing with Google and Firefox.</dd> <dd>I think tspan should default its current position from the previous painting's end but then modify it with x and y attributes.</dd> <dd>Google and Firefox appear to default to last virtual position; they might be doing "de"| but starting from end of "bc" so it looks like |"de".</dd> <dd>I'll have to read the spec for current position.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z"></span>Thanks that's enough for me. In my opinion, a text-chunk should be identical to the tag containing the koordinates, otherwise it is stupid (difficult to read/understand)</dd> <dd>I think in Line 18 "bc" is horizontally aligned at the end of the letter "a" in Chrome and Firefox, which seems to be wrong (IE, Edge and Inkscape are quite bad in rendering those examples, not worth mentiong there results), I think a new definition of x starts a new text-chunk in Chrome and Firefox and y does not start a new text-chunk.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-07-26T21:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-07-26T18:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external free" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/b/bd/20180726195300%21Test.svg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T21:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z"></span>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/b/bd/20180726195300%21Test.svg</a></dd> <dd>Yes, line 18 in Chrome and Firefox does what you say, but I think they render the line correctly. |"a" is written and updates the graphic's current position to end of a. The tspan uses the current position's x but drops 50 px due to the y attribute; the y causes a new text chunk. Then "bc"| is end-anchored at that position. The "d|e" text chunk is centered on the line.</dd> <dd>The Chrome/Firefox behavior is a more complicated. Your explanation has trouble with "a" because "abc" would be a text chunk.</dd> <dd>Yes, I tried Edge, but just gagged. I didn't try IE.</dd> <dd>You've provided an impressive torture test.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-07-26T21:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 26 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-07-26T21:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-07-26T19:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/SVG_Text_Chunk.svg/880px-SVG_Text_Chunk.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="378"/></a><figcaption>Johannes Kalliauer's torture test.</figcaption></figure> <p>Bitte, sehen Sie das Bild. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-08-01T19:52:00.000Z-Is_this_a_known_bug?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="h-gnuplot-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z"></span>gnuplot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-gnuplot-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-gnuplot-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z-gnuplot"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-gnuplot-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z-gnuplot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;gnuplot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;gnuplot&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z-gnuplot"></span>hallo, ich hab mir deine Grafik angeschaut für die erneuerbaren energien in frankreich: <a href="/wiki/File:Electricity_in_France_de_Gnuplot.svg" title="File:Electricity in France de Gnuplot.svg">file:Electricity in France de Gnuplot.svg</a> <br/> </p><p>ich habe probeweise bei 1993 für die erneuerbaren (grün) einen peak von 600 eingefügt <br/> ist das svg mit diesen daten verknüpft? <br/> wie kann ich eine datenänderung zur anzeige bringen? <br/> </p><p>wenn ich von dem svg in commons auf den gnuplot-link klicke komme ich nur zum Artikel - ist iwo beschrieben, wie ich es selber so wie du anwenden kann? <br/> würde mich sehr interessieren - danke <br/> </p><p>würd gern versuchen die anfrage in der <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Grafikwerkstatt" class="extiw" title="de:WP:Grafikwerkstatt">de:WP:Grafikwerkstatt</a> ganz unten (Anteile der Energieträger seit 1800) selber mit gnuplot zu bauen - wärst du so nett und unterstützt mich? <br/> --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z-gnuplot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 29 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z-gnuplot"><span 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64bit installierst: <ul><li>Downloadlink: <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnuplot" class="extiw" title="de:Gnuplot">de:Gnuplot</a> --> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.gnuplot.info/">http://www.gnuplot.info/</a> --> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot/files/gnuplot/5.2.4/">https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot/files/gnuplot/5.2.4/</a> --> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot/files/gnuplot/5.2.4/gp524-win64-mingw_2.exe/download">https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot/files/gnuplot/5.2.4/gp524-win64-mingw_2.exe/download</a></li> <li>Instllieren</li> <li>Dann <a href="/wiki/File:Electricity_in_France_de_Gnuplot.svg#Source" title="File:Electricity in France de Gnuplot.svg">File:Electricity_in_France_de_Gnuplot.svg#Source</a> unter "Energie.gp" speichern und <a href="/wiki/File:Electricity_in_France_de_Gnuplot.svg#Daten.txt" title="File:Electricity in France de Gnuplot.svg">File:Electricity_in_France_de_Gnuplot.svg#Daten.txt</a> unter "Daten.txt" im gleichen Ordner speichern. (z.B. Desktop/Wiki, bitte ohne lehrzeichen)</li> <li>Ein Terminalfester öffnen: <ul><li><kbd class="keyboard-key nowrap" style="border:1px solid #aaa;border-radius:.2em;-moz-box-shadow:.1em .1em .2em rgba(0,0,0,.1);-webkit-box-shadow:.1em .1em .2em rgba(0,0,0,.1);box-shadow:.1em .1em .2em rgba(0,0,0,.1);background:#f9f9f9;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);background-image:-o-linear-gradient(top,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);background-image:-webkit-linear-gradient(top,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);padding:.1em .3em;font-family:inherit;font-size:.85em"><span class="Unicode">⊞</span> Win</kbd> &amp; <kbd class="keyboard-key nowrap" style="border:1px solid #aaa;border-radius:.2em;-moz-box-shadow:.1em .1em .2em rgba(0,0,0,.1);-webkit-box-shadow:.1em .1em .2em rgba(0,0,0,.1);box-shadow:.1em .1em .2em rgba(0,0,0,.1);background:#f9f9f9;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);background-image:-o-linear-gradient(top,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);background-image:-webkit-linear-gradient(top,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom,#eee,#f9f9f9,#eee);padding:.1em .3em;font-family:inherit;font-size:.85em">R</kbd></li> <li>cmd.exe</li></ul></li> <li>in den betrefenden Ordner navigieren: <ul><li>cd Desktop/Wiki</li></ul></li> <li>Program ausführen mit <ul><li><code>gnuplot Energie.gp</code></li></ul></li> <li>Die Datei "Electricity_in_France_de_Gnuplot.svg" öffnen die sich im selben Ordner befindet.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Wieauchimmer irgendwer muss sich um die Aktualisierung der Daten kümmern, das SVG erstellen kann ich recht schnell.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-07-29T20:37:00.000Z-Mrmw-2018-07-29T12:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Script-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Script&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Script&quot;}--><h2 id="Script" data-mw-thread-id="h-Script-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Script-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"></span>Script<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Script-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Script-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script","c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Script-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Script&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Script&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script"></span>Hallo Johannes, wenn ich viel editiere kann ich leicht etwas übersehen; kommt leider gelegentlich vor. Obwohl ich weiss dass die Vorschläge des script <i>immer</i> überprüft werden müssen. Beim <a href="/wiki/File:2D_gedrehtes_Auflager.svg" title="File:2D gedrehtes Auflager.svg">2D gedrehtes Auflager.svg</a> hat mich erst sehr gewundert, dass du das als "Fahne" kategorisiert hast. Dann habe ich gesehen: das Perhelion-script hat versucht, einen guten Vorschlag für das <i>topic</i> zu finden - und war heilfroh im Wort "Au<u><tt>flag</tt></u>er" einen vermeintlichen Treffer zu landen... Beinahe wäre mir bei einem anderen Auflager dasselbe passiert! So lustig kann es manchmal zugehen mit unserer selbstgestrickten KI. Weiter guten Erfolg! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z-Script"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"></span>Gibt es eigentlich eine Liste von den Abkürzungen, obwohl ich schon lange editiere kenne ich grad einmal s=d auswendig, beim Rest vertraue ich aufgrund von Wissensmangel auf das Skript.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-14T15:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script"></span>Hallo Johannes, nun habe ich die von dir ersehnte <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Image_generation#TopTb" title="Template talk:Image generation">Tabelle</a> gebastelt. Sie ist vorsortiert nach den Codes. Ich hoffe du kannst jetzt besser mit dem Zeugs umgehen; vielleicht schaffen Perhelion und ich noch eine bessere Editieriungshilfe. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z-Script"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Mist jetzt habe ich keine Ausrede mehr, wenn ich falsch editiere. ;-) . Danke!  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:51:00.000Z-Sarang-2018-08-28T16:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Graphic_Designer_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Graphic Designer's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For cleaning up many drawings. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/User:MaGa" title="User:MaGa"><font color="Grey"><b>Ma</b></font></a><font color="#E80911">▀</font><font color="#0C55A3">▄</font><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MaGa" title="User talk:MaGa"><b><font color="Grey">Ga</font></b></a></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z","author":"MaGa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ma"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! :-D</dd> <dd>The Error is not really important, since they are rendered correctly by librsvg (the Rendering-Libary of Wikimedia), "just" browsers show a warning, and stops loading the file, also they should just ignore the unknown attribute. To avoid this Warning you could correct the sourcecode of the SVG with any text-editor by adding <code> xmlns:inkscape="<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.inkscape.org/namespaces/inkscape">http://www.inkscape.org/namespaces/inkscape</a>" </code> anywhere in the <code>&lt;svg ></code>-tag, or alternatively you could delete everything containing <code>inkscape:</code> (f.e. <code> inkscape:transform-center-y="-23.229832"</code> or <code> inkscape:connector-curvature="0"</code>). (I did both.)</dd> <dd>Example of original file:</dd></dl> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="cp">&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?></span> <span class="cp">&lt;!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd"></span> <span class="cm">&lt;!-- Creator: CorelDRAW X8 --></span> <span class="nt">&lt;svg</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xml:space=</span><span class="s">"preserve"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">width=</span><span class="s">"1931px"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">height=</span><span class="s">"1141px"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">version=</span><span class="s">"1.1"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">style=</span><span class="s">"shape-rendering:geometricPrecision; text-rendering:geometricPrecision; image-rendering:optimizeQuality; fill-rule:evenodd; clip-rule:evenodd"</span> <span class="na">viewBox=</span><span class="s">"0 0 7229557 4273050"</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns:xlink=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;g</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"g3138"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">inkscape:transform-center-y=</span><span class="s">"-23.229832"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;polygon</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"path3475"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class=</span><span class="s">"fil5"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">points=</span><span class="s">"2626654,4004654 3005125,4004654 3005125,4030993 2626654,4030993 "</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">inkscape:connector-curvature=</span><span class="s">"0"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;polygon</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"path3475_0"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class=</span><span class="s">"fil5"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">points=</span><span class="s">"3383591,4004654 3005120,4004654 3005120,4030993 3383591,4030993 "</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">inkscape:connector-curvature=</span><span class="s">"0"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;polygon</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"path3475_1"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class=</span><span class="s">"fil1"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">points=</span><span class="s">"3383587,4004654 4135251,4004654 4135251,4030993 3383587,4030993 "</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">inkscape:connector-curvature=</span><span class="s">"0"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;/g></span> <span class="nt">&lt;/svg></span> </pre></div> <dl><dd>Example of fixed file</dd></dl> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="cp">&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?></span> <span class="cp">&lt;!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd"></span> <span class="cm">&lt;!-- Creator: CorelDRAW X8 --></span> <span class="nt">&lt;svg</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xml:space=</span><span class="s">"preserve"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">width=</span><span class="s">"1931px"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">height=</span><span class="s">"1141px"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">version=</span><span class="s">"1.1"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">style=</span><span class="s">"shape-rendering:geometricPrecision; text-rendering:geometricPrecision; image-rendering:optimizeQuality; fill-rule:evenodd; clip-rule:evenodd"</span> <span class="na">viewBox=</span><span class="s">"0 0 7229557 4273050"</span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns:xlink=</span><span class="s">"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xmlns:inkscape=</span><span class="s">"http://www.inkscape.org/namespaces/inkscape"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;g</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"g3138"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;polygon</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"path3475"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class=</span><span class="s">"fil5"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">points=</span><span class="s">"2626654,4004654 3005125,4004654 3005125,4030993 2626654,4030993 "</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;polygon</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"path3475_0"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class=</span><span class="s">"fil5"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">points=</span><span class="s">"3383591,4004654 3005120,4004654 3005120,4030993 3383591,4030993 "</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;polygon</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"path3475_1"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class=</span><span class="s">"fil1"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">points=</span><span class="s">"3383587,4004654 4135251,4004654 4135251,4030993 3383587,4030993 "</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;/g></span> <span class="nt">&lt;/svg></span> </pre></div> <dl><dd>You could use <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://validator.w3.org/check">https://validator.w3.org/check</a> to check if everything is ok.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I edited, cleaned up much more, which is unnecessary, and on its own not worth uploading a new version.</dd> <dd>In my first corrections I deleted the CSS-code and implemented it into the SVG, but since this might be unwanted, for further editing, in my later corrections (since 21:16, 27. Aug.) I decided to keep the CSS-code.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 29 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z-MaGa-2018-08-28T16:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z"></span>Well, I doubt I will mess with code. I saw that you cleaned up some drawings of mine with text converted to curves, bringing back text. I don't know what is the problem with text: is it a application (Inkscape or Corel) or is it a rendering on Wikipedia. Very frustrating. So feel free to improve any of my drawings uploaded at Commons. Thanks again, and keep up good work.--<span style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/User:MaGa" title="User:MaGa"><font color="Grey"><b>Ma</b></font></a><font color="#E80911">▀</font><font color="#0C55A3">▄</font><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MaGa" title="User talk:MaGa"><b><font color="Grey">Ga</font></b></a></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 1 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z","author":"MaGa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ma"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MaGa-2018-09-01T18:33:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-08-29T07:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Another_librsvg_bug-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Another librsvg bug&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Another librsvg bug&quot;}--><h2 id="Another_librsvg_bug" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_librsvg_bug-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_librsvg_bug-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Another librsvg bug<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_librsvg_bug-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Another_librsvg_bug-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Another_librsvg_bug-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Another librsvg bug&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Another librsvg bug&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg/170px-Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg.png" decoding="async" width="170" height="170" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg/255px-Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg/340px-Librsvg_text-anchor_middle_bug.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a><figcaption>Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer align the fraction correctly, but the Wikimedia thumbnail renderer centres the "2", leaving the denominator off-centre.</figcaption></figure> <p>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p>Thanks for fixing my recent contributions. </p><p>Hope you don't mind my bothering you with another librsvg bug. On centre-aligned text with multiple tspans, only the first tspan is centre-aligned, as in this image. Can you please help me file a bug report? </p><p>Thanks,<br/><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user:cmglee"><b>cmɢʟee</b></a> ⋅<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:cmglee">τaʟκ</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 14 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z","author":"Cmglee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"],"displayName":"cm\u0262\u029fee"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z-Another_librsvg_bug"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">Cmglee</a>: </span>You specified <code>&lt;text>&lt;tspan x="0" dy="1em" text-anchor="middle">2&lt;/tspan>&lt;tspan font-style="italic">n&lt;/tspan>&lt;/text></code>, and librsvg regognises <code>&lt;tspan x="0" dy="1em" text-anchor="middle">2&lt;/tspan></code> and aligns the 2 in the middle, which is the more intelligent definition. However Text-chunks in SVGs are defined differently see <a href="#Is_this_a_known_bug?">#Is_this_a_known_bug?</a> for details.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z-Cmglee-2018-10-14T10:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, Johannes. I didn't realise <i>tspans</i> can be nested – that's a good solution. In my example, I had the <i>text-anchor</i> in the outer <i>g</i>, not in the <i>tspan</i>. If the <i>text-anchor</i> were in the <i>tspan</i>, I agree that it's the more intelligent definition, though to go a different way from three independent established browsers likely makes the user think it's librsvg that's buggy. Anyway, I'll use nested <i>tspans</i> henceforth. Cheers, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user:cmglee"><b>cmɢʟee</b></a> ⋅<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:cmglee">τaʟκ</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 14 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z","author":"Cmglee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"cm\u0262\u029fee"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cmglee-2018-10-14T20:04:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-10-14T12:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks a lot for your help on File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Original.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks a lot for your help on File:Well to Wheels (kWh) - 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Dual Language En+De Original.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or"></span>Great job, this is wonderful! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User talk:Gregor Hagedorn"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:12, 24 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z","author":"Gregor Hagedorn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or","replies":["c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks again, I did some cleanup and improvement work. However, working with Inkscape and the language switch did not work too well for me. Inkscape in most cases does not allow to change formatting or text inside a switch. I can ungroup and then edit the text elements, but then the switch is lost. A problem with having to work in the text editor for me was that tspan role=line are rendered differently in Inkscape and Commons; I had to split them into separate text. Which tool beyond text editor are you using? -- If you can improve the graph further I am grateful! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User talk:Gregor Hagedorn"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 31 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z","author":"Gregor Hagedorn","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-24T06:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a>: </span> Your comment and some comments that JoKalliauer made about how he edits <code>switch</code>-translated SVG troubles me. If Inkscape cannot edit such files easily, then there is little hope that other graphics editors can edit them. Using graphics editors after switch translation was a design issue, but I fear the issue has been dropped or overlooked.</dd> <dd>On another front, the "Well to Wheels" image is misleading. The energies <i>E</i> are displayed as circles with radius proportional to <i>E</i>. Viewers judge the circles by their areas, which are proportional to <i>E</i><sup>2</sup>, so they get a distorted perception. The radii should be scaled by the √<i>E</i> so the areas are proportional to <i>E</i>. Alternatively, the diagram could be done with flows whose widths are proportional to <i>E</i>. Johannes edited such a file at <a href="/wiki/File:Breakdown_of_the_incoming_solar_energy.svg" title="File:Breakdown of the incoming solar energy.svg">File:Breakdown of the incoming solar energy.svg</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 31 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-10-31T02:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span>! Your point about radius vs. area is valid and it would be nice to change. I like the circle style better than the Breakdown graphic, but both would do. I wish I had better tool with which I successfully create and edit SVG content! It is a pity that it is so difficult to export Wikimedia-compatible-svg from MS or LibreOffice! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User talk:Gregor Hagedorn"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 1 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z","author":"Gregor Hagedorn","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T00:31:00.000Z-Glrx-2018-10-31T17:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg/220px-Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="138" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg/330px-Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg/440px-Inkscape_v091_GUI_Interface_Settings_Menu_Text2Path.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="763" data-file-height="479"/></a><figcaption>how to change the language</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> Sorry! I found out<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://ccm.net/faq/15154-how-to-change-language-on-inkscape">[3]</a> that is possible to change the &lt;switch>-language: you have to change the GUI-Language and restart Inkscape.</dd> <dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> I think outside von Commons switch-svgs seems to be very rare, since in most cases only SVG are only needed in one language.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or","replies":["c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot_for_your_help_on_File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh)_-_Dual_Language_En+De_Or"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span>Very helpful! In fact, more than you think. Just for the record: On my Inkscape installation the default setting "system language" actually caused that NO language/switch text was displayed at all (I live in Germany but use an English version of Windows). After I changed Inkscape Prefs to en + restart, I can now see en text. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User talk:Gregor Hagedorn"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z","author":"Gregor Hagedorn","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2018-11-01T17:08:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-11-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2018-11-01T17:08:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z"></span>Danke, Johannes. That allows at least one method of editing the language, but it is sounds like it changes the user interface as well as which <code>systemLanguage</code> is displayed. I suspect that most commercial websites l10n their SVG files rather than i18n them. It keeps the file size smaller (no translation baggage), and l10n allows almost any graphics editor to work on the file (the files have no <code>switch</code>es).</dd> <dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Gregor_Hagedorn" title="User:Gregor Hagedorn">Gregor Hagedorn</a>: </span>. I believe you should have seen text in your original configuration if <a href="/wiki/File:Well_to_Wheels_(kWh).svg" title="File:Well to Wheels (kWh).svg">File:Well to Wheels (kWh).svg</a> had a default clause for its switches. I started to add the defaults yesterday, but the clauses had a lot of style and position information, so I went on to other tasks. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2018-11-01T17:08:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2018-11-01T17:08:00.000Z-Gregor_Hagedorn-2018-11-01T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If you think there is a copyright problem, nominate for deletion instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z-File:Элемент_плана_Красногвардейска_1939_года_н" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 1 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z-File:Элемент_плана_Красногвардейска_1939_года_н"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z","author":"Jcb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z-File:\u042d\u043b\u0435\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442_\u043f\u043b\u0430\u043d\u0430_\u041a\u0440\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0433\u0432\u0430\u0440\u0434\u0435\u0439\u0441\u043a\u0430_1939_\u0433\u043e\u0434\u0430_\u043d","replies":["c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z-File:Элемент_плана_Красногвардейска_1939_года_н"></span> </p> <dl><dd><bdo style="font-size:smaller;" lang="en" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" class="extiw" title="w:Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</bdo> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a>: </span> Where are policies about <a href="/wiki/Template:Dw_no_source_since" title="Template:Dw no source since"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Dw no source since}}</span></a>? May it be used with <a href="/wiki/Template:Own" title="Template:Own"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Own}}</span></a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 1 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z"></span>(EC)That may be the case, but the edit of JoKalliauer moves the problem instead of solving it. If there is a copyright problem, a file should be nominated for deletion via tag or DR. By removing the license and emptying the source field, the file falls into the <a href="/wiki/Category:Media_without_a_license:_needs_history_check" title="Category:Media without a license: needs history check">Category:Media without a license: needs history check</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Images_without_source" title="Category:Images without source">Category:Images without source</a> maintenance categories. <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z","author":"Jcb","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2018-12-01T17:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a>: </span> Thanks for telling me, I tried to move the problem into a more correct problemcategory.</dd> <dd>The work by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Carlosjuradob&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Carlosjuradob (page does not exist)">Carlosjuradob</a> who uploaded about 23 screenshots of AutoCAD was in my opinon below treshold, so in my opinon AutoCAD is the (main) autor, therefore the source should clarify the source of the software not of the screenshot, and the license is even more wrong, since AutoCAD ist not free content, therefore you cant publish under CC-BY-SA.</dd> <dd>I recommended <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Carlosjuradob&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Carlosjuradob (page does not exist)">User:Carlosjuradob</a> to starte a DR at their pictures: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carlosjuradob#illegal_publishing_of_AutoCAD-Screenshots" title="User talk:Carlosjuradob">User_talk:Carlosjuradob#illegal publishing of AutoCAD-Screenshots</a>.</dd> <dd>I thougt I do not start a DR because: <ul><li>It might be possible to delete not free content as in <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:AutoCAD_2014_Windows.png#filehistory" class="extiw" title="de:Datei:AutoCAD 2014 Windows.png">de:Datei:AutoCAD_2014_Windows.png#filehistory</a>.</li> <li>The uploader might ask AutoCAD for permission to upload screenshots to Wikimedia</li></ul></dd> <dd>Therfore the permission was missing, maybe <a href="/wiki/Template:No_permission_since" title="Template:No permission since">Template:No_permission_since</a> would be more correct?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 1 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jcb-2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z-Jcb-2018-12-01T17:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z"></span>Yes, {no permission since} would be fine. I have speedy deleted the screenshots as copyright violations, there is no way that Autodesk is going to give there permission for these files. (I know this company a bit, I work with AutoCAD and several other Autodesk products). <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jcb-2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z","author":"Jcb","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Jcb-2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2018-12-01T22:37:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-01T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Problem mit File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Problem mit File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Problem mit <a href="/wiki/File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg" title="File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg">File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Problem mit File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Problem mit File:Drini nonuniformconvergence SVG.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg"></span><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg/656px-Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg.png" decoding="async" width="656" height="241" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg/984px-Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg/1312px-Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="656" data-file-height="241"/></a></span> </p><p>Hallo Jo, du hattest da ne neue Version von erzeugt, die einen gewaltigen Fehler enthält: Die rote Grenzfunktion ist bis auf einen Punkt nicht mehr zu sehen! Die x-Achse sollte bis auf bei pi/2 rot sein. Ein weiterer kleiner Schönheitsfehler: Eine der grünen Funktionen geht rechts noch weiter. Und eigentlich fand ich die Beschriftungen der blauen Funktionen auch hilfreich... Könntest du das wieder fixen? AB, --<a href="/wiki/User:Xario" title="User:Xario"><big><i>χ</i></big>ario</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 11 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z","author":"Xario","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c7ario"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z-Problem_mit_File:Drini_nonuniformconvergence_SVG.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Xario" title="User:Xario">Xario</a>: </span> Der source-code ist unsauber. Die Grafik wurde erstellt wobei die Achsen unterschiedliche Längen haben, dann wurde das in Inkscape anscheinend verzerrt und das was man bei Gnuplot vergessen hat in Inkscape hinzugefügt.</dd> <dd>Ich hab die Elemente aus der Originaldatei 1:1 hineinkopiert und dann eine Verschiebung und Verzerrrung draufgehaut, dass es optisch etwa dort ist wo es hinsollte, wenn man genauer schaut sieht man Fehler.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-11T14:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z"></span>Oh wow, das war ja blitzschnell, vielen Dank!!! Verstehe ich dich richtig, dass auch wenn die Grafik jetzt richtig aussieht, sie eigentlich Hacks/Workarounds enthält und im Grunde komplett neu gemacht werden müsste? Meinst du, es würde was nützen, das bei der Dateibeschreibungsseite (oder der Disk?!?) zu vermerken? So das vielleicht irgendwann mal jemand das machen könnte, wenn ihm/ihr langweilig ist? --<a href="/wiki/User:Xario" title="User:Xario"><big><i>χ</i></big>ario</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z","author":"Xario","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c7ario"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-11T18:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Xario" title="User:Xario">Xario</a>: </span></dd> <dd>Zu der Unsauberkeit: <ul><li>Die Elemente die in der von dir genannten Version gefehlt hatten, waren in Inkscape drüber gezeichnet, dies sollte man besser in Gnuplot selbst machen, aber es ist nicht falsch und ist in der aktuellen Datei noch immer so. Hierbei habe ich jedoch die betreffenden Elemente einfach hineikopiert und so verzerrt dass es in etwa passt, das gehört sauber gemacht.</li> <li>Die Skalierung auf der x-Achse und auf der y-Achse waren nicht gleich lang (in Gnuplot falsch erzeugt und dann nochmals in Inkscpae "verunstaltet"), dies habe ich korrigiert.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Bezüglich der von dir geannten Kritik: <ul><li>Meines Erachtens ist der vertikale rote Strich falsch: es gibt keinen x-Wert der auf den Bereich (0,1) abbildet (0 und 1 ausgenommen)</li> <li>Die beiden horizontalen Striche sind ebenfalls falsch, weil <ul><li>sie einen endlichen Bereich rund um pi/2 nicht da ist. (Man sollte vl. so ein symbol wie in <a href="/wiki/File:Discontinuity-jump.svg" title="File:Discontinuity-jump.svg">File:Discontinuity-jump.svg</a> einfügen)</li> <li>Die Grünen und blauen Linien sind hinter der Achse, also sollten die roten Sriche auch hinter der Achse verschwinden.</li></ul></li> <li>Es ging nicht eine grüne Funktion rechts weiter sondern alle (die ungeraden Potenzen wie sin(x) verschwinden im negativen und Potenzen größer 3 verschwinden hinter der x-Achse), dies ist korrekt, sie auhören zu lassen wäre falsch (außer man schrenkt den Definitionsbereich ein, was nicht explizit gemacht wurde)</li></ul></dd> <dd>Die Beschriftung wegfallen zu lassen ist nicht gut, aber nicht falsch. Imzuge der anderen Korrekturen fand ich das nebensächlich. (Richtigkeit geht bei mir vor Verständlichkeit/Schönheit.)</dd> <dd>Also die aktuelle Version ist wieder falsch weil die rote Grenzfunktion nicht zu sehen sein sollte.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Der source-code in Gnuplot gehört weiter überarbeitet (die grawierendseten Mängel habe ich behoben), sodass keine manuelle Nachbearbeitung notwendig ist. (bzw. sollte die Nachbearbeitung zumindest neu gemacht werden), dies anzumerken ist sicher nützlich.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a>: </span> Was war deine Motivation die Grafik die seit fast einem Jahr unbekümmert vorlag "sofort" <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/330970226#filehistory" title="Special:Diff/330970226">zurückzusetzen</a> und oben geannte Fehler wieder einzuführen anstatt eine aktuelle Diskussion abzuwarten?</dd> <dd>Hast du das Gefühl, dass ich keine gute Arbeit mache, bzw Dinge unbegründet mache, bzw. mir nur aus Unachtsamkeit unterlaufen ist?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-12T09:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z"></span>Hallo, danke fürs ausführliche Antworten:</dd> <dd><b>die Vertikale</b>: Ohje, ich scheine völlig verdrängt zu haben, dass die existiert(e). Ja, die sollte def. weg. Die Idee mit dem Sprungpunkt hatte mit auch schon vorgeschwebt.</dd> <dd><b>die Horizontale</b>: Ob nur die vor der Achse ist finde ich nicht wild. Die falsche Lücke wäre, wie du schon sagst, am besten mit nem Sprungpunkt zu versehen. Mein Ansatz, warum ich dich angeschrieben hatte, war dass überall auf der Beschreibungsseite und in Artikeln immer von "der roten Grenzfunktion" die Rede ist - aber davon sah man eben nur noch einen einzelnen Punkt.</dd> <dd><b>Schrift</b>: Wenn ich das Bild in groß ansehe (auch alte Versionen), sieht das sin <b>hoch</b> 100 aus wie sin <b>mal</b> 100.</dd> <dd><b>Definitionsbereich</b>: Ich dachte einfach wieder annen symmetrischen Bildausschnitt.</dd> <dd><b>Generell</b>: die Datei ist nicht wirklich ideal: Warum sind gerade zwei aus der Funktionenschar in blau rausgehoben und dicker? Die grünen sehen so aus, als konvergierten sie gegen sin^10, diese große Lücke zwischen sin^20 und sin^100 und dann der Vertikalen machts auch nicht wirklich besser.</dd> <dd>Hast du denn überhaupt noch Lust, die mit der Datei zu beschäftigen? Denn wenn nicht, würde ich diese ganzen Punkte bei der Disk der Dateibeschreibung erwähnen. Und ich stimme dir natürlich zu, das plötzliche Zurücksetzen war so hilfreich wie ein Kropf. --<a href="/wiki/User:Xario" title="User:Xario"><big><i>χ</i></big>ario</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 13 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Xario","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c7ario"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2018-12-12T19:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z"></span>Ich habe vor mich noch etwas damit zu beschäftigen. Wenn ich fertig bin, verständige ich dich.</dd> <dd>Bezüglich <a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">User:Incnis Mrsi</a>: Sie/Er beobachtet meine Disk und beantwortet für mich regelmässig Fragen und ich bin ihr/ihm dankbar dafür.</dd> <dd>Und ehrlichgesagt sollte ich insgesammt sorgfältiger arbeiten. Ich will es nur explizit ansprechen/wissen, was der konkrete Hintergrund ist, bzw. ob das einen tieferen Sinn/Grund hat.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 13 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2018-12-13T18:40:00.000Z-Xario-2018-12-13T11:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-New_bug?-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?&quot;,&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;New bug?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;New bug?&quot;}--><h2 id="New_bug?" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_bug?-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z"><span id="New_bug.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_bug?-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z"></span>New bug?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_bug?-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-New_bug?-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?","c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-09T17:28:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-01-09T17:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-New_bug?-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?&quot;,&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;New bug?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;New bug?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?"></span>Hi. There's a recently uploaded SVG (<a href="/wiki/File:SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg" title="File:SHSG coat of arms.svg">SHSG coat of arms.svg</a>), which disappears almost entirely below a certain size. </p><p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg/130px-SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg.png" decoding="async" width="130" height="176" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg/195px-SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg/260px-SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="487"/></a></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg/131px-SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg.png" decoding="async" width="131" height="177" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg/197px-SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg/262px-SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="487"/></a></span> </p><p>The image consists of linear gradients, groups and paths. I don't remember seeing this particular bug before. Do you recognize it? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:40, 5 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T05:40:00.000Z-New_bug?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg/133px-SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg.png" decoding="async" width="133" height="189" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg/200px-SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg/266px-SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="512"/></a></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg/134px-SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg.png" decoding="async" width="134" height="191" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg/201px-SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg/268px-SHSB_coat_of_arms.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> </p><p>A related file has the same problem at a sightly different size. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 5 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z-New_bug?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a>: </span> I don't know this bug, and <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker?withJS=MediaWiki:CommonsSvgChecker.js&amp;checkSVG=File%3ASHSG_coat_of_arms.svg">Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker</a> renders much worse, therefore I would have to upload severals <a href="/wiki/File:Test.svg" title="File:Test.svg">tests</a>. Inkscape/Scour/SVGO/svgcleaner fixed the file, I don't know how. (<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> knows more about SVG than me, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">Perhelion</a>: </span> knows also many bugs and <a href="/wiki/User:AKlapper_(WMF)" title="User:AKlapper (WMF)">User:AKlapper_(WMF)</a> reads all <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phab:">phab:</a> tasks.)  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z","c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-05T06:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> I found out why the Checker stops rendering the file at some point: There's a gradient with gradientTransform="matrix(0 0 0 0 393.46 518.57)". <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker?withJS=MediaWiki:CommonsSvgChecker.js&amp;checkSVG=SVG_edge_case_-_zero_scale_gradient.svg">Commons SVG Checker: SVG edge case - zero scale gradient.svg</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 8 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T20:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> Just having some fun: <a href="/wiki/File:Identify_renderer.svg" title="File:Identify renderer.svg">Identify renderer.svg</a> :) Of course we could distinguish librsvg and browsers based on how they handle CSS and embedded raster graphics, but thanks to zero-scale-gradients we can show different images on two popular browsers and the Checker and Commons, using only <b>a single</b> weird SVG rendering edge case. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-01-05T21:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> Remember how <a href="/wiki/File:SHSG_coat_of_arms.svg" title="File:SHSG coat of arms.svg">SHSG coat of arms.svg</a> had a broken thumbnail? When gradients simply have a gradientTransform with a scale of zero, the SVG Checker version of librsvg dies and the Wikimedia version of librsvg survives. Therefore that specific bug couldn't have caused the broken thumbnail. I did some more experiments and found that Wikimedia's librsvg also dies, when <a href="/wiki/File:SVG_edge_case_-_gradient_on_object_of_size_zero.svg" title="File:SVG edge case - gradient on object of size zero.svg">a gradient is applied to an object of size zero</a>. Apparently this also happens, when the image resolution, the object size and the gradient scale are small enough that the effective gradient size gets rounded down to zero. There's also a case where applying a gradient to the fill of a straight line breaks the rendering, but that requires more research. I also came across a case where <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/b/bd/20190109103933!Test.svg/99px-Test.svg.png">rendering works at a small resolution</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/b/bd/20190109103933!Test.svg/100px-Test.svg.png">fails at a higher resolution</a>. It continues to fail <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/b/bd/20190109103933!Test.svg/393px-Test.svg.png">up to a certain size</a> and then <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/b/bd/20190109103933!Test.svg/394px-Test.svg.png">works again</a>. My guess is that rounding errors cause the path to alternate between being a straight line and a very thin triangle.</dd> <dd>Question: Is there a template for displaying old, overwritten versions of files? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-08T22:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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librsrvg)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>As far as I know there is no way of displaying old versions in Wikimedia (direcly) without uploading again.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-09T17:28:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-09T17:28:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-01-09T12:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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<hr/> <div dir="ltr"> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Gtk-dialog-info.svg/50px-Gtk-dialog-info.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Gtk-dialog-info.svg/75px-Gtk-dialog-info.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Gtk-dialog-info.svg/100px-Gtk-dialog-info.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="60" data-file-height="60"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="description en" style="display:inline;">Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#JoKalliauer_and_attribution_chain" title="Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems">Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#JoKalliauer and attribution chain</a>. This is in relation to an issue with which you may have been involved. </div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z-PDF_burning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z-PDF_burning"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z-PDF_burning","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z-PDF_burning"></span> </p><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a>: </span> Did you mean the attribution of the picture or of the description page?  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-01-13T21:22:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2019-01-13T21:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Eintrag\u02d0 Dieses SVG-Bild enth\u00e4lt eingebettete Rastergrafiken...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Eintrag\u02d0 Dieses SVG-Bild enth\u00e4lt eingebettete Rastergrafiken...&quot;}--><h2 id="Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"><span id="Eintrag.CB.90_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth.C3.A4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Eintragː Dieses SVG-Bild enthält eingebettete Rastergrafiken...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Eintrag\u02d0 Dieses SVG-Bild enth\u00e4lt eingebettete Rastergrafiken...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Eintrag\u02d0 Dieses SVG-Bild enth\u00e4lt eingebettete Rastergrafiken...&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..."></span>Servus JoKalliauer, </p><p>Eintrag in <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Nachbau.svg">01-Parabelzirkel-van Schooten-Nachbau.svg</a>ː <i>Dieses SVG-Bild enthält eingebettete Rastergrafiken...</i>. </p><p>Ich bräuchte wieder deine Hilfe. Die von mir hochgeladene Datei wurde in GeoGebra erstellt und als <i>Skalierbare Vektografik (svg)</i> (wie alle meine Konstruktionen) exportiert. Ich habe alle in Commons verfügbaren Auflösungen zu dieser Datei angesehen, sie zeigen alle ein scharfes Bild. Was ist noch erforderlich, damit die im Eintrag <i>Dieses SVG-Bild enthält eingebettete Rastergrafiken...</i> aufgeführten Hinweise erfüllt sind? Gruß--<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petrus3743" title="User talk:Petrus3743"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Petrus3743","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintrag\u02d0_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enth\u00e4lt_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken...","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z-Eintragː_Dieses_SVG-Bild_enthält_eingebettete_Rastergrafiken..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a>: </span> Die rote Parabel ist eingebettet:</dd> <dd>kopiere Folgenden Text und füge es in die Adressleiste deines Browsers ein:</dd></dl> <dl><dd>schau dir mal die Rote Parabel bei <a class="external free" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Nachbau.svg/2000px-01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Nachbau.svg.png">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Nachbau.svg/2000px-01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Nachbau.svg.png</a> an, die Parabel ist nicht scharf</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-24T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Ja, <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a>, danke für deine Bemühungen, jetzt sehe ich es auch. M. E. muss man unterscheiden, ob die Kurve z. B. von GeoGebra durch Berechnung erzeugt wurde, dann bleibt sie scharf <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Basis.svg">File:01-Parabelzirkel-van Schooten-Basis.svg</a>, oder unter „Algebra“ mit „Zahl, Animation ein“. Eine solche Kurve wird quasi Punkt für Punkt erstellt und wird bei sehr starker Vergrößerung unscharf <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:01-Hyperbelzirkel-van_Schooten.svg">File:01-Hyperbelzirkel-van Schooten.svg</a>. Dies ist auch bei Animationen als GIF-Datei erkennbar <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:01-Parabelzirkel-Animation.gif">File:01-Parabelzirkel-Animation.gif</a> oder <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parametric_ellipse.gif">File:Parametric ellipse.gif</a>. Es ist anzunehmen das dieser Effekt auch in einer PNG-Datei zu sehen ist. Die Frage ist auch, ob eine so starke Vergrößerung noch notwendig ist. Ich weiß keine Möglichkeit wie man dies verhindern kann.--<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petrus3743" title="User talk:Petrus3743"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Petrus3743","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-25T20:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a>: </span> Wenn <a href="/wiki/Template:Bad_SVG" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Bad SVG">{{Bad SVG}}</a> eingeführt wird ist das nicht weiter wichtig, es ist nur eine Information, aber kein Grund etwas zu ändern.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-25T22:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span>, danke für diese Info. Gruß--<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petrus3743" title="User talk:Petrus3743"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z","author":"Petrus3743","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span>, ist mir erst jetzt aufgefallen, wie hast von diesem <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Nachbau.svg">File:01-Parabelzirkel-van Schooten-Nachbau.svg</a> die eingebetteten Rastergrafiken so gut entfernt? Ein Dankeschön dafürǃ Vielleicht kann es beim folgenden Bild auch probieren <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:01-Parabelzirkel-van_Schooten-Prinzipskizze.svg">File:01-Parabelzirkel-van Schooten-Prinzipskizze.svg</a>. Servus --<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Petrus3743" title="User talk:Petrus3743"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 1 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z","author":"Petrus3743","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-02-27T23:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Petrus3743" title="User:Petrus3743">Petrus3743</a>: </span> Das kannst du in <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape" class="extiw" title="de:Inkscape">Inkscape</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://inkscape.org/de/release/inkscape-0.92.4/">[4]</a> auch leicht selber machen: Bild markieren und dann auf Pfad > Bitmap nachzeichnen<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.rgb-labs.com/inkscape-086-bitmap-nachzeichnen/">[5]</a> gehen. Und für diesen Fall würde ich "Helligkeitschwellwert"(Standard) mit Standart-einstellungen nehmen.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-01T07:53:00.000Z-Petrus3743-2019-03-01T00:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Problems_with_multi-language_detection-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection&quot;,&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Problems with multi-language detection&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Problems with multi-language detection&quot;}--><h2 id="Problems_with_multi-language_detection" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problems_with_multi-language_detection-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problems_with_multi-language_detection-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Problems with multi-language detection<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problems_with_multi-language_detection-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Problems_with_multi-language_detection-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection","c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection","timestamp":"2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Problems_with_multi-language_detection-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection&quot;,&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Problems with multi-language detection&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Problems with multi-language detection&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"></span>Hi. <a href="/wiki/File:Europe_regions_minimal_cities.svg" title="File:Europe regions minimal cities.svg">Europe regions minimal cities.svg</a> didn't show the language selection widget "Render this image in [English (en)] [Go]". My guess was that Commons is looking for &lt;switch> elements containing &lt;text> elements and the file contains &lt;switch> elements containing &lt;g> elements. But I found that <a href="/wiki/File:SystemLanguageLayers.svg" title="File:SystemLanguageLayers.svg">SystemLanguageLayers.svg</a> has a very similar structure and it doesn't have the same problem. Do you know anything about this? How does Commons determine whether a file is multilingual or not? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a>: </span></dd> <dd>Try: <ul><li>useing <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_regions_minimal_cities.svg?action=purge"><code>?action=purge</code></a> as described in <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:Cache#Serverseitigen_Cache_leeren" class="extiw" title="de:Hilfe:Cache">de:Hilfe:Cache#Serverseitigen_Cache_leeren</a> (german) or in <a class="external free" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Purge">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Purge</a></li> <li>delete your browsercache <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:Cache#Browsercache_„leeren“/aktualisieren" class="extiw" title="de:Hilfe:Cache">de:Hilfe:Cache#Browsercache_„leeren“/aktualisieren</a></li></ul></dd> <dd>I hope it works.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> Well, I tried to purge test.svg, but got a "Service Temporarily Unavailable" in return. And this doesn't look like a caching problem to me. At least test.svg reliably switches back and forth between having and not having a language selector. For now I'll continue to try to create a minimal file with &lt;switch> and without language selector. Wish me luck. :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T20:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a>: </span> Purging Test.svg will lead to a rendering of >2000 Files. Rendering of one single file (such as <a href="/wiki/File:Dojikko2.3.svg" title="File:Dojikko2.3.svg">File:Dojikko2.3.svg</a> lead to an overload to the server. Therfore purging test.svg is a bad idea. Currently it is not even possible to delete Test.svg, see <a href="/wiki/File_talk:Test.svg" title="File talk:Test.svg">File_talk:Test.svg</a>. <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> Oops. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"></span>However, on my computer <a href="/wiki/File:Europe_regions_minimal_cities.svg" title="File:Europe regions minimal cities.svg">Europe regions minimal cities.svg</a> <b>shows</b> the language selection widget "Dieses Bild in [Englisch (en)] rendern. [Los]". <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://screenshots.firefox.com/TnzxtNkVWgOUcTRg/commons.wikimedia.org">https://screenshots.firefox.com/TnzxtNkVWgOUcTRg/commons.wikimedia.org</a></dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z","c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T20:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"></span>Yes, that's <i>after</i> I've uploaded a fix, which has a &lt;switch> at the beginning of the file. My current hypothesis is, that Commons only looks at the first 256kB of a file to determine whether it's multilingual or not. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:12:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"></span>Yeah. I'm pretty sure now that that's the cause. What do we do about it? It's not really a bug. It's just a poorly documented attempt to limit the amount of work done during multi-language detection. Should we mention this on the various SVG help pages? It doesn't seem to be a common problem. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T21:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Sorry I did read read <i>didn't</i> (past). My mistake, that's the reason why I thought about cache.</dd> <dd>I would make a <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phab:">phab:</a>-Report. Only if they are imporant and/or less work they will be implemented. If someone has a problem, you can refer to the report for more infos. (or can be found with a search engine)</dd> <dd>Since it is not that common, I would not report it on any help-page. I would keep the helppages quite tight, only with the most important info, otherwise they won't be read.</dd> <dd>I would say <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> is the biggest expert for multilangual files on commons, he probabily knows more, or has a better opinion than me.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-02-27T21:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z"></span>(e/c) MW parses the SVG file and looks for <code>systemLanguage</code> attributes; it does not look for <code>switch</code>. See <a class="external text" href="https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/REL1_23/php/SVGMetadataExtractor_8php_source.html">source</a> around line 266. Yes, metadata extraction only looks at the first 1/4 megabyte. See <a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSVGMetadataCutoff">$wgSVGMetadataCutoff documentation</a>. It is not a common problem; I've only run into it a couple times. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 27 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Glrx-2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2019-02-27T22:15:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-02-27T22:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Request_for_SVG_check" title="Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"></span>Begoon noticed</a> that $wgSVGMetadataCutoff is mentioned on <a href="/wiki/Help:Translation_tutorial#Language_matching_rules" title="Help:Translation tutorial">Help:Translation_tutorial#Language_matching_rules</a>. Of course it's easy to miss such a small note among the vast amount of reading material that a newcomer has to work through. I therefore <a href="/wiki/Commons_talk:Commons_SVG_Checker#Feature_request:_Detect_$wgSVGMetadataCutoff_problems_in_multilingual_SVGs" title="Commons talk:Commons SVG Checker">requested for the SVG Checker to emit a warning</a>, when a file might have this problem. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-02-28T14:09:00.000Z-Problems_with_multi-language_detection"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Fixing phab:T35245 in (R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Fixing phab:T35245 in (R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"><span id="Fixing_phab:T35245_in_.28R.29-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"></span>Fixing <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35245" class="extiw" title="phab:T35245">phab:T35245</a> in <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:(R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg (page does not exist)">(R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Fixing phab:T35245 in (R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Fixing phab:T35245 in (R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg"></span>Hi. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%BC" title="User:Jü">Jü</a> is having trouble converting their files from ChemDraw to SVG. This specific problem can be solved by iteratively replacing <code>(&lt;tspan[^>]* x=")([^ "]+) ([^"]+)("[^>]*>)(.)([^&lt;]+)(&lt;/tspan>)</code> with <code>\1\2\4\5\7\1\3\4\6\7</code>, but I don't know how to wrap that into a user-friendly script that runs on Mac OS. Do you happen to be familiar with Mac or do you know anyone, who is? Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 16 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z-Fixing_phab:T35245_in_(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"></span>You (and <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%BC" title="User:Jü">Jü</a>: </span>) can use <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</a> or should it run in terminal and/or offline?</dd> <dd><code>sed -ri 's/(&lt;tspan[^>]* x=")([^ "]+) ([^"]+)("[^>]*>)(.)([^&lt;]+)(&lt;\/tspan>)/\1\2\4\5\7\1\3\4\6\7/g' filename.svg</code> is a nice code, I use a similar code in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/T35245tspan.sh">my code</a>, maybe I'll change it (and name you and this URL in a comment of the source code).</dd> <dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a>: </span> I don't have Mac, therefore I can't test it and I don't know the problem. I took a short look at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ss64.com/osx/sed.html">https://ss64.com/osx/sed.html</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.applegazette.com/mac/what-is-sed-and-how-does-it-work/">https://www.applegazette.com/mac/what-is-sed-and-how-does-it-work/</a> . And I think the options are different and there is no <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/sed.html"><code>--regexp-extended</code></a>?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 17 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-16T14:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> When I upload <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:(R)-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:(R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg (page does not exist)">(R)-Citronellal Structural Formula V.1 1.svg</a> to SWAB (<b>S</b>vg<b>W</b>ork<b>A</b>round<b>B</b>ot), the "Convert to SVG" download yields a completely unmodified file. <s>Can you replicate this? Is SWAB currently inactive? Would the GUI show any kind of error message, if something went wrong?</s></dd> <dd>Okay, I now know that SWAB can't handle Inkscape SVGs. Why can't it? And please display an error message or at least mention such a strong limitation on its website.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>If you want to use that regex in a general purpose tool, you need to be careful about the whitespace. E.g. <code>&lt;tspan[^>]* x="</code> won't match, if <code>x</code> is preceded by a tab or line break. It also doesn't handle comma-separated coordinates. <code>(&lt;tspan[^>]*\sx=")\s*([^\s,"]+)[\s,]+([^"]+)("[^>]*>)(.)([^&lt;]+)(&lt;/tspan>)</code> might work, but I didn't test it.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I don't know whether Jü uses the terminal and/or whether they are working offline, but anyone who uploads images to Commons <i>has</i> to be online at least <i>sometimes</i>. :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-17T21:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z"></span>I will take a look at it. Yesterday it worked, but on my computer it shows the line breaks differnelty than in my browser.</dd> <dd>The reasion why Inkscape-SVG don't work ist because of the line breaks. Sed only reads per default line-by-line. I will change the code.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z-TilmannR-2019-03-18T00:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a>: </span> Firefox changes the carriage return(\r)/newline(\n) on Windows as well on Ubuntu, therefore when I download <a class="external free" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/%28R%29-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/%28R%29-Citronellal_Structural_Formula_V.1_1.svg</a> everything works. With wget the download seems to work, but then swab does not work. I assume the file contains carriage return as well as newline, therefore FF thinks it is Windows-formated and deletes all carriage returns without newlines, but since it was created on Mac most linebreaks are carriage returns.</dd> <dd>However I decided to remove all carriage returns completely and replace all newlines (including following spaces) with a single space repaired, so swab (nice name ;-) ) <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</a> should work now even for "Inkscape SVG (*.svg)"s.</dd> <dd>Since my Operating System/Browser seems to modify the file while downloading, can you please check if it works now?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T07:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z"></span>Great. It seems work now. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TilmannR&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TilmannR (page does not exist)">TilmannR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TilmannR" title="User talk:TilmannR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 18 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z","author":"TilmannR","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TilmannR-2019-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-18T16:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Neue Dateiversion hochladen?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Neue Dateiversion hochladen?&quot;}--><h2 id="Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"><span id="Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"></span>Neue Dateiversion hochladen?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Neue Dateiversion hochladen?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Neue Dateiversion hochladen?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?"></span>Servus JoKalliauer, zunächst mal vielen Dank für die Anfertigung der Grafik <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dynamische_Radlastverlagerung.svg">Dynamische_Radlastverlagerung.svg</a>. Bevor ich dich weiterhin mit meinen neuen Änderungswünschen erschrecke, habe ich es selber versucht. (Meine neue Version ist primitiver und nicht mehr unbedingt 100% korrekt. Alles was vom Thema ablenkt wurde weggelassen). Ich weiß allerdings nicht, wie man eine neue Datei-Version hoch lädt (in der Hilfe finde ich dazu nichts). Vermutlich muß ich hier den <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Hochladen?uselang=de">Hochlade-Assistent</a> benutzen. Doch was trage ich in den einzelnen Abfrage-Feldern ein? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Q42xp" title="User talk:Q42xp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Q42xp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z-Neue_Dateiversion_hochladen?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a>: </span> Der Hochlade-Assistent ist praktisch für neue Dateien/neuen Dateinamen. Commons empfiehlt im Regelfall eine Neue Datei zu erstellen, siehe <a href="/wiki/Commons:Overwriting_existing_files/de" title="Commons:Overwriting existing files/de">Commons:Overwriting_existing_files/de</a>.</dd> <dd>Jetzt zum kontkreten Fall: Gehe auf <a href="/wiki/File:Dynamische_Radlastverlagerung.svg#filehistory" title="File:Dynamische Radlastverlagerung.svg">File:Dynamische_Radlastverlagerung.svg#filehistory</a>, dort steht unter der Tabelle (und über Dateiverwendung) "Eine neue Version dieser Datei hochladen" (zumindest im Österreichischen Deutsch, in anderen Sprachen sollte etwas ähnliches stehen.)</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z"></span>Jetzt hat‘s geschnackelt. Aber wie kommst du auf die Seite „#filehistory“? Wenn ich die Seite direkt aufrufe, steht da: „Du kannst diese Datei nicht überschreiben.“ und nicht: „Eine neue Version dieser Datei hochladen“. Anscheinend ist Wikimedia nur was für Insider.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Dummerweise gibt es ein neues Problem: Ich habe mir gerade mein svg im Internet-Browser angesehen. Gegenüber der Ansicht in Inkscape ist die Beschriftung leicht nach rechts verschoben. Soll ich das svg trotzdem hochladen und kannst du das dann berichtigen (so dass es gefällig aussieht)? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Q42xp" title="User talk:Q42xp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Q42xp","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T20:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"></span>Entweder du warst nicht angemeldet, weil nur angemeldete Nutzer können hochladen, oder nur erfahrene Nutzer dürfen Dateien überschreiben. Neulinge überschreiben oft Dateien und sollten sie aber unter einem neuen Namen hochladen. (Ich fand auf die schnelle nichts dazu.)</dd> <dd>Lösungsvorschlag: Du ladest es unter einem neuen Namen mit dem Hochladeassitenten hoch oder du schickst es mir per Mail ( <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://tiss.tuwien.ac.at/person/230887.html?suchtext=Kalliauer">https://tiss.tuwien.ac.at/person/230887.html?suchtext=Kalliauer</a> ) und erlaubst mir diese Arbeit unter <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.de">CC-BY-SA 4.0</a> hochzuladen.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z"></span>Ich hab’s jetzt einfach hochgeladen. So halbwegs passt es. Falls du Lust und Laune hast, kannst da ja nochmal drüber gehen. (Die Dateibeschreibung passe ich morgen an)--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Q42xp" title="User talk:Q42xp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z","author":"Q42xp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Q42xp-2019-03-19T21:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a>: </span> Die Summe der Horizontalkräfte ist nicht Null. Das <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle \Delta F}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mi mathvariant="normal">Δ<!-- Δ --></mi> <mi>F</mi> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle \Delta F}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/bcde5b83b29cc20f808fb4f349b838b82ed99a98" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -0.338ex; width:3.677ex; height:2.176ex;" alt="{\displaystyle \Delta F}"/></span> entsteht genau durch den Versatz der beiden Horizontalkräfte, daher finde ich solltest du irgendwo auf Straßenniveau eine Horizontalkraft nach rechts zeichnen. (Kräfte darf man (bei starrkörpern) entlang der Wirkungslinie verschieben und daher ist es "egal" ob die kraft beim Hinterreifen oder beim Vorderreifen angreift.)  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z","c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Die Bremskräfte an der Kontaktstelle Reifen-Straße habe ich deshalb weggelassen, weil es im <a class="external text" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taschenbuch_f%C3%BCr_den_Maschinenbau">Dubbel</a> hierzu eine vergleichbare Skizze gibt, in der diese Kräfte ebenfalls nicht eingezeichnet sind (Du findest diese Skizze, wenn du nach „dynamische Achslastverlagerung Dubbel“ googelst und dann auf den Reiter „Bücher“ umschaltest) Mein Ziel ist, die Grafik möglichst einfach zu halten. Aber ich stimme dir zu, vielleicht wäre es tatsächlich besser diese Kräfte wieder einzuzeichnen. Ich hab mal eine korrigierte Fassung hochgeladen.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Allerdings gibt es bei mir immer noch auffällige Unterschiede zwischen der Darstellung in Inkscape und in diversen Internet-Explorern. Sowohl im Firefox als auch beim Microsoft-IE erscheint in der Formel zu <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle \triangle F}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mi mathvariant="normal">△<!-- △ --></mi> <mi>F</mi> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle \triangle F}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/24e261ead0a69ca88682f909be99f502b35b08ee" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -0.338ex; width:3.807ex; height:2.176ex;" alt="{\displaystyle \triangle F}"/></span> ein Leerzeichen vor dem Malzeichen. Alle tief gestellten Zeichen werden wesentlich weniger tief dargestellt. Das schaut dann eher aus wie Kleinbuchstaben. Spaßeshalber habe ich das SVG auch mit „Libre Office“ geöffnet. Da wird praktisch die Hälfte gar nicht dargestellt. Die tiefgestellten Zeichen fehlen komplett und den Pfeilen sind die Pfeilspitzen abhanden gekommen. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Q42xp" title="User talk:Q42xp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z","author":"Q42xp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:27:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Nachtrag: Jetzt nachdem ich das SVG in Wikimedia hochgeladen habe, schaut es dort genauso aus, wie es soll. Das falsche Leerzeichen vor dem Komma ist weg und die tiefgestellten Zeichen sind tiefgestellt. Mir sind diese SVG ein Rätsel.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Q42xp" title="User talk:Q42xp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Q42xp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Q42xp-2019-03-20T20:52:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-19T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a>: </span> No software can render SVGs, that are according to the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/">official Standart (2011)</a> correclty.</dd> <dd>RazFalcon did an awesome work, which software can render which file correclty. Since Internet Explorer (IE) is a very bad renderer it is not considered.</dd> <dd>I corrected more than 1000 SVGs, which were not rendered correclty on Wikimedia, some of them can be found on <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer#Repairing_damaged_SVGs_(minor_edits)" title="User:JoKalliauer">User:JoKalliauer#Repairing_damaged_SVGs_(minor_edits)</a>.::::Wrong rendering does not necesarryly mean, that there is something wrong with your file.</dd> <dd>On my Computer IE renders the file correclty. Which Version of IE do you have?</dd> <dd>Since every render has its own errors: <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Identify_renderer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Identify_renderer.svg/300px-Identify_renderer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Identify_renderer.svg/450px-Identify_renderer.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Identify_renderer.svg/600px-Identify_renderer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="300" data-file-height="30"/></a></span>, renders differnetly on <ol><li>"Firefox"</li> <li>"Chrome or Inkscape"</li> <li>"SVG Checker"</li> <li>"Wikimedia Commons"</li> <li>Internet Explorer</li></ol></dd> <dd>but it should render the same.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z-Q42xp-2019-03-19T20:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z"></span>Ich ging fälschlicherweise davon aus, dass der Browser beim Aufruf einer Wiki-Website mit SVG-Grafik eine SVG–Datei erhält und daraus eine Pixelgrafik berechnet. Anscheinend wird dem Browser jedoch von der Wiki-Website eine PNG-Datei übermittelt. Wenn dem so ist, ist es egal wie ein Browser SVG-Dateien darstellt, da er ja keine erhält. Meine Aufregung darüber, dass unterschiedliche Browser dieselbe SVG-Datei unterschiedlich darstellen war also für die Katz. Nochmals Danke für deine sehr hilfreiche Unterstützung. (Die Grafik füge ich heute in den Artikel ein) Nichts für ungut. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q42xp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q42xp (page does not exist)">Q42xp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Q42xp" title="User talk:Q42xp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 25 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Q42xp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Q42xp-2019-03-25T21:01:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-20T21:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Full_bucket.svg-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Full bucket.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Full bucket.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="Full_bucket.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Full_bucket.svg-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Full_bucket.svg-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Full_bucket.svg" title="File:Full bucket.svg">Full bucket.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Full_bucket.svg-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Full_bucket.svg-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg","c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg","timestamp":"2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Full_bucket.svg-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg&quot;,&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Full bucket.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Full bucket.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"></span>Hallo Johannes, wenn ich irgendeinen SVG-Code vereinfache macht mich das noch lange nicht zum (Co-)Autor; ausserdem steht meine UserID ohnehin in der Upload-history, also käme es mir nicht in den Sinn mich da noch gross irgendwo als Urheber einzutragen! Es steht aber nicht dafür diese Eintragung wieder zu löschen. <br/> Auch den Text in <a href="/wiki/File:Empty_bucket.svg" title="File:Empty bucket.svg">Empty bucket.svg</a> (du hast gemeint diese Datei verbessern zu müssen) habe ich nicht signiert - es ist schliesslich kein Diskussionsbeitrag; und in der history bleibt ohnehin ersichtlich, dass er von mir stammt. mfg --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 21 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Das sehe ich genau umgekehrt! Ich sehe dich als Hauptautor, der aktuellen Datei. Also "jeder" kann 3 Striche zeichnen und die mit einer Kontour füllen, insofern sehe ich keine Schöpferische Leistung von Rodrigo.Argenton.</dd> <dd>Hingegen du hast den Code auf seine knappeste Essenz zusammengekürzt, das können in diesem Ausmaß nur wenige (da fallen sofort alle die keinen SVG-source-code lesen können, weg, das sind die meisten. Und von denen die SVGs lesen können, können auch ein großteil nicht so gut SVGen wie du). Des weiteren hast du dein kluges Köpfchen verwendet und festgestellt, dass es optisch ident ist, wenn die Striche die gleiche Farbe haben, sie ja eigentlich gar nicht "sieht" und sie zum Pfad dazurechnen könnte. Damit hast du auch die Doppelecken rechts oben und links oben behoben.</dd> <dd>Ich glaube für dich ist das was du machst schon so klar, dass du gar nicht weißt, wie ausergewöhlich deine Fähigkeiten sind.</dd> <dd>Wenn wir uns <a href="/wiki/File:Empty_bucket.svg" title="File:Empty bucket.svg">Empty bucket.svg</a> anschauen: <ol><li><s>Ist von meiner Bearbeitung nichts mehr da, also sehe ich mich zu 0% Mitautor an der aktuellen Datei.</s></li> <li>Wäre die Version von 13:34, 28. Okt. 2017 die aktuelle, dann wäre eher die Autoren von <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/scour-project/scour">scour</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/RazrFalcon/svgcleaner/">svgcleaner</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/svg/svgo/">svgo</a> die Autoren als ich.</li></ol></dd> <dd>Wie auch immer beide Dateien sind eigentlich <a href="/wiki/Template:Pd-shape" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Pd-shape">{{Pd-shape}}</a> einzukategorisieren, somit gibt es gar keine Urheber. Weil einen Urheber kann es erst dann geben, wenn eine Schöpfungshöhe vorhanden. Wo nichts gemacht worden ist, kann jeder sagen er hat das "Nichts-Werk" gemacht und gleichzeitig kann jeder auch sagen er hat nicht am "Nichts-Werk" beteiligt.</dd> <dd>Also eine Autorfrage bei etwas was keine Schöpfungshöhe hat, ist meiner Meinung nach sinnlos (oder mir zu philosophisch).</dd> <dd>Selbst wenn ich hinschreibe "Die Queen von England" hat es erstellt ist es (Urheberrechtlich) nicht falsch, weil es Public Domain ist und somit jeder es als sein eigenes Werk reklamieren kann.</dd> <dd>Konkret habe ich die Autoren in eine (für mich) wahrhaftere Formulierung gebracht, weil ich das Bild auf <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/232">https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/232</a> verwendet habe und dort die Autoren genannt habe.</dd> <dd>Also ich wollte die Datei haben, weil sie eben so kurz ist, also eigentlich gibt es mir nicht um das Dargestellte sondern um den kurzen Code. (Ich weiß noch nicht inwiefern Rodrigo.Argenton Dateien geeignet sind als Minimal working Example, mit kürzestmöglichen Code, zu verwenden.)</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-21T18:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-21T08:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"></span>Ok, das ist eine andere aber durchaus verstandliche Sichtweise, an der ich nichts bemangeln kann oder will. Ich neige zwar dazu meine Ideen und mir richtig erscheinenden Ansichten - nein, niemandem aufzuzwingen aber doch deutlich zur Diskussion zu stellen; aber eher nicht mich selbst allzu wichtig zu nehmen. Es gibt keine Dateien in deren Beschreibung 5mal die userID sarang zu finden ist (sowas gibt es ofter mit anderen UserIDs), oder Kategorien mit meinem Namen... Obwohl auch das durchaus Sinn und Berechtigung haben kann. Also bin und bleibe ich Co-Autor eines vollen Bechers. Das nehme ich doch gleich zum Anlass, mir hier auch einen Becher zu fullen (aber lieber nur halb) --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-03-21T18:37:00.000Z-Full_bucket.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Ubrigens, schau genau, beim <a href="/wiki/File:Empty_bucket.svg" title="File:Empty bucket.svg">Empty bucket.svg</a> ist <u>deine</u> Version vom 28. Okt. 2017, 13:34 die aktuelle! <dl><dd>Und es gibt sehr of <i>bombastische Lizenzen</i> fur eindeutig ineligible Erzeugnisse....</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BOT_request-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BOT request&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BOT request&quot;}--><h2 id="BOT_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-BOT_request-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BOT_request-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"></span>BOT request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BOT_request-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-BOT_request-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BOT_request-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BOT request&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BOT request&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request"></span>Hallo Johannes, du kannst doch auch <i>bot</i>? Ich hab in <a href="/wiki/Category:Commons_Maint_tincture_code_error" title="Category:Commons Maint tincture code error">Commons Maint tincture code error</a> >300 Dateien entdeckt, und soweit ich sehen konnte haben alle denselben Fehler: statt zB <code>|Tincture=a/o/b</code> steht dort <code>|tincture={{tincture|a|o|b}}</code>. Das liesse sich sogar mit VFC und regularem Ausdruck reparieren. Kannst du das? Oder weisst du jemanden der das kann? --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z-BOT_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"></span>Ich hätte als erstes an <a href="/wiki/User:Sarangbot" title="User:Sarangbot">User:Sarangbot</a> gedacht, aber wenn du mich fragst kann der bot das anscheinend nicht.</dd> <dd>Ich kann <ol><li>mit Imker eine Kategorie auf meinen Laptop herunterladen</li> <li>wenn man die Dateinamen eingibt die Datei (auf Toolforge oder lokal) herunterladen</li> <li>die Datei (auf Toolforge oder am Laptop) bearbeiten</li> <li>die Datei unter den jeweiligen Dateinamen hochladen(überschreibt)</li></ol></dd> <dd>Jedoch weiß ich (noch) nicht wie man Dateibeschreibungen automatisiert bearbeitet. (vl. lese ich mich da jetzt anlassbezogen ein, wäre ohnehin nützlich; Schau mir das noch an, melde mich wenn das dann noch aktuell ist und nicht erledigt wurde.)</dd> <dd>Für <a href="/wiki/User:SVGWorkaroundBot" title="User:SVGWorkaroundBot">meinen Bot</a> habe ich noch keinen Botflag angesucht, wollte es mal bei wenigen Dateien probelaufen lassen (die ich manuell nachkontrolliert habe) und dann darum ansuchen.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Alexis_Jazz" title="User:Alexis Jazz">Alexis Jazz</a> hat Fake SVGs to pngs konvertiert und die Dateibeschreibung "mitkopiert". Das hat er vermutlich atomatisiert gemacht, aber er hat meines Wissens keinen bot-account.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-28T17:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Danke, dann mach ich mal eine „quick &amp; dirty“ Reparatur; ev. kann das spater mal <i>richtig</i> repariert werden. Btw, Sarangbot ist <i>kein</i> bot, nur eine Sockenpuppe. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-03-28T19:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-28T18:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Kategorisierung CC-BY-ND.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Kategorisierung CC-BY-ND.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"></span>Kategorisierung <a href="/wiki/File:CC-BY-ND.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:CC-BY-ND.svg">CC-BY-ND.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Kategorisierung CC-BY-ND.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Kategorisierung CC-BY-ND.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg"></span>Hallo Johannes, du hast diese Logos sehr gut simplifiziert. Die main_category <a href="/wiki/Category:SVG_Simplified" title="Category:SVG Simplified">SVG Simplified</a> ist (von mir) vorgesehen fur einige wenige sehr pragnante Beispiele von Vereinfachungen, vor allem wenn die neue Version weniger als 5% der Vorversion hat. Deshalb passen deine Logo-Reduktionen gut hierher - aber nur einmal, nicht alle sechs! Alle sind in der Unterkategorie <a href="/wiki/Category:SVG_simplified_logos" title="Category:SVG simplified logos">SVG simplified logos</a> versammelt, und das eine mit der besten Relation von 0.54% <i>zusatzlich</i> in der Hauptkategorie - die ubersichtlich bleiben soll. ok? --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z-Kategorisierung_CC-BY-ND.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"></span>Achso, mir nicht so wichtig. Ich habe vor heute; <a href="/wiki/Category:SVG_Simplified" title="Category:SVG Simplified">SVG Simplified</a> noch nie gesehen, also wenn du Kategorieänderungen vornimmst, nur zu!! Ich finde jedoch ich mein Beispiel kein so gutes Beispiel, weil die Löschung von Adobe Illustrator pgf CDATA Blöcken ist für mich eine irrelevante Vereinfachung, diese wird selbst botmässig auf <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</a> durchgeführt.</dd> <dd>Also es war Unwissenheit meinerseits.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-30T10:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z"></span>Wenn du meinst. Vielleicht sehe ich mal, was da vereinfachbar ist - nur so aus sportlichem Ehrgeiz... wie wenn es nicht genug anderes zu tun gibt.</dd> <dd>Nur so zur Erinnerung fur dich: Es ist sehr sinnvoll, andere vom Hochladen <i>neuer</i> Dateien mit CDATA und anderem Mull abzuhalten, falls sie sich bekehren lassen. Hingegen bringt es wenig, einzelne Dateien zusatzlich neu zu erstellen - auch wenn das den Ladevorgang ein klein wenig reduzieren mag. Speziell bei diesen Logos, die <i>nirgendwo</i> verwendet werden, entfallt dieses Argument, wir haben also unbenutzte riesige plus unbenutzte angemessen grosse Dateien auf den Datenbanken. Doch die haben ja unendliche Kapazitat! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 31 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-03-30T16:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z"></span>Ich hatte die Dateien selbst benötigt, deshalb habe ich sie optimiert. Diese Logos werden vl. öfter weiterverwendet nicht nur von mir, daher wollte ich sie in einer sinnvollen Dateigröße zur Verfügung stellen. Commons soll als eine nützliche Allmende bekannt sein und nicht für "unützbare" Dateien.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-03-31T18:53:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-03-31T11:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z-Notification_about_possible_deletion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Notification about possible deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Notification about possible deletion&quot;}--><h2 id="Notification_about_possible_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z"></span>Notification about possible deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z-Notification_about_possible_deletion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z-Notification_about_possible_deletion","timestamp":"2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Notification_about_possible_deletion-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tr\u1ea7n_Nguy\u1ec5n_Minh_Huy-2019-04-08T03:28:00.000Z-Notification_about_possible_deletion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Notification about possible deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Notification about possible deletion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table class="layouttemplate" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:0; 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Thank you.</div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jcb-2019-04-18T23:29:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2019-04-18T23:29:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-18T23:29:00.000Z","author":"Jcb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jcb-2019-04-18T23:29:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2019-04-18T23:29:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a>: </span> There is a license, and it is according to <a href="/wiki/Commons:Licensing#Acceptable_licenses" title="Commons:Licensing">Commons:Licensing#Acceptable_licenses</a>. </p><p>The license tag is: </p> <pre>Any party obtaining a copy of these files is granted, free of charge, a full and unrestricted irrevocable, world-wide, paid up, royalty-free, nonexclusive right and license to deal in this software and documentation files (the "Software"), including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish and/or distribute copies of the Software, and to permit persons who receive copies from any such party to do so, with the only requirement being that this copyright notice remain intact. No representations are made about the suitability of this software for any purpose. It is provided "as is" without express or implied warranty. </pre> <p>Accoding to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfig" class="extiw" title="w:Xfig">w:Xfig</a> it is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source" class="extiw" title="w:Free and open-source">w:Free and open-source</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License" class="extiw" title="w:MIT License">w:MIT License</a>. </p><p>One of the authors of the software published <a href="/wiki/File:Xfig-screenshot.png" title="File:Xfig-screenshot.png">File:Xfig-screenshot.png</a> under <code>{{GFDL|migration=relicense}}</code> </p><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 19 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title","replies":["c-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z-Copyright_status:_File:Xfig_splash_logo.png,_File:Xfig-logo.png,_File:Xfig-title"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z"></span>You must use one of our established license templates. <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 19 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z","author":"Jcb","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T06:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a>: </span> is there a guideline? If I read <a href="/wiki/Commons:Licensing/de#Zulässige_Lizenzen" title="Commons:Licensing/de">Commons:Licensing/de#Zulässige_Lizenzen</a>, it sounds like I can use any license that allows several things (reuse,making derivatives,...) .</dd> <dd>I can create a new license template (at least for multilicensing). But is it allowed to just use a new license template?</dd> <dd>Is there a list of all "established license templates"?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 19 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jcb-2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z-Jcb-2019-04-19T11:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcb-2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z"></span>The currently accepted licenses are in <a href="/wiki/Category:Primary_license_tags_(flat_list)" title="Category:Primary license tags (flat list)">Category:Primary license tags (flat list)</a>. If a file has no accepted license, it will be in <a href="/wiki/Category:Files_with_no_machine-readable_license" title="Category:Files with no machine-readable license">Category:Files with no machine-readable license</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jcb-2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 19 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z","author":"Jcb","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jcb-2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2019-04-19T14:50:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-04-19T12:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;f.e.\&quot;-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-\&quot;f.e.\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;f.e.\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;f.e.\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;f.e.&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;f.e.&quot;-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"><span id=".22f.e..22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;f.e.&quot;-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"></span>"f.e."<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;f.e.&quot;-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"f.e.\"-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-\"f.e.\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;f.e.\&quot;-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-\&quot;f.e.\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;f.e.\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;f.e.\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-&quot;f.e.&quot;"></span>Figured you would probably want to know, with reference to <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/352261985" title="Special:Diff/352261985">Special:Diff/352261985</a>: I'm guessing that your "f.e." is intended as a translation of the German "z.B", but we don't use that in English, we use "e.g" (from the Latin <i>exempli gratia</i>). - <a href="/wiki/User:Jmabel" title="User:Jmabel">Jmabel</a> ! <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmabel" title="User talk:Jmabel">talk</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-&quot;f.e.&quot;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 28 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-&quot;f.e.&quot;"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z","author":"Jmabel","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-\"f.e.\"","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z-&quot;f.e.&quot;"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jmabel" title="User:Jmabel">Jmabel</a>: </span> Thanks for the feedback, I did not know that. I never understood why you use <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g." class="extiw" title="wiktionary:e.g.">wiktionary:e.g.</a>, I do not find it selfexplaining. I will use e.g. in future.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z-Jmabel-2019-05-28T22:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z"></span>Similarly "i.e." from the Latin <i>id est</i>, "et. al." from the Latin <i>et alia</i>, "etc." from the Latin <i>et cetera</i> ... u.s.w.! English, of course, in general borrows a lot more from Latin that German does. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jmabel" title="User:Jmabel">Jmabel</a> ! <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmabel" title="User talk:Jmabel">talk</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 29 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Jmabel","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmabel-2019-05-29T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-05-29T16:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg (page does not exist)">File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg","c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg","timestamp":"2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table class="layouttemplate" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:0; 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&amp;action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ellin_Beltz" title="User talk:Ellin Beltz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 5 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z","author":"Ellin Beltz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:05:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg"></span> </p><ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.svg"></span>not my file, just a <a href="/wiki/Template:FakePDF" title="Template:FakePDF">{{FakePDF}}</a>-extraction from <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Ventral_view_of_turtle_with_respiratory_muscles.pdf&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.pdf (page does not exist)">Ventral view of turtle with respiratory muscles.pdf</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Pictogram_voting_delete.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_delete.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Pictogram_voting_delete.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_delete.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Pictogram_voting_delete.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_delete.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b><bdi>I withdraw my nomination</bdi></b> by <a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a>, but I now nominated the source-file for deletion, since copyright is unclear.</li></ol> <p> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&amp;action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ellin_Beltz" title="User talk:Ellin Beltz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:06:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 5 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:06:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-05T16:06:00.000Z","author":"Ellin Beltz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:06:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:06:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png"></span> </p><ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png"></span>not my file, just a <a href="/wiki/Template:FakePDF" title="Template:FakePDF">{{FakePDF}}</a>-extraction from <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Sumerian_figurine.pdf&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Sumerian figurine.pdf (page does not exist)">Sumerian figurine.pdf</a></li> <li>I now requested the original author: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ajaulwes#File:Sumerian_figurine.png" title="User talk:Ajaulwes">User_talk:Ajaulwes#File:Sumerian_figurine.png</a></li></ol> <p> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-File:Sumerian_figurine.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Pikachu Pillows.jpg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Pikachu Pillows.jpg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Pikachu_Pillows.jpg/220px-Pikachu_Pillows.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="126" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Pikachu_Pillows.jpg/330px-Pikachu_Pillows.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Pikachu_Pillows.jpg/440px-Pikachu_Pillows.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3008" data-file-height="1725"/></a><figcaption>The pillows are <a href="/wiki/Commons:TOO" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:TOO">COM:TOO</a> (cicular face constructed just from circles and simple lines)</figcaption></figure> <table class="layouttemplate" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:0; border:2px solid var(--border-color-warning,#D6D0B4); background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#F5EAB8);color: inherit;" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Commons-emblem-issue.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Commons-emblem-issue.svg/75px-Commons-emblem-issue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="75" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Commons-emblem-issue.svg/113px-Commons-emblem-issue.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Commons-emblem-issue.svg/150px-Commons-emblem-issue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span><span class="layouttemplateargs" style="display:none;speak:none;" title="template=Idw 1%3DFile%3APikachu+Pillows.jpg 2%3D 3%3D"> </span> </td> <td><div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="description en" style="display:inline;"><a href="/wiki/File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg" title="File:Pikachu Pillows.jpg">File:Pikachu Pillows.jpg</a> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests" title="Commons:Deletion requests">Commons:Deletion requests</a> so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at <b><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pikachu Pillows.jpg">its entry</a></b>.<br/> <p><small>If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see <a href="/wiki/Commons:But_it%27s_my_own_work!" title="Commons:But it's my own work!">Commons:But it's my own work!</a> for a guide on how to address these issues.</small><br/> </p> Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&amp;action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ellin_Beltz" title="User talk:Ellin Beltz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 5 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z","author":"Ellin Beltz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z-File:Pikachu_Pillows.jpg"></span> </p><ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z"></span>obviously <a href="/wiki/Commons:TOO" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:TOO">COM:TOO</a>  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-09T09:40:00.000Z-Ellin_Beltz-2019-06-05T16:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Link-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Link&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Link&quot;}--><h2 id="Link" data-mw-thread-id="h-Link-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Link-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z"></span>Link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Link-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Link-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link","timestamp":"2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Link-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Link&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Link&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link"></span>interessiert dich vielleicht: <a href="/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#Create_user_group_'template_editor'" title="Commons:Village pump/Proposals">Commons:Village pump/Proposals#Create user group 'template_editor'</a> IMHO eine gute Sache, unterstutzenswert, und geeignet die Admins zu entlasten. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-13T08:05:00.000Z-Link"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Logo-SH-web.svg-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z-Logo-SH-web.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Logo-SH-web.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Logo-SH-web.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z-Logo-SH-web.svg"></span>Nein, es war mein Fehler zu ubersehen, dass das script dieses tag nicht ubernommen hat. Diese Datei zeigt sehr deutlich die verschiedenen Entwicklungsstufen des Igen, es gab recht "altertumliche" Spezifikationen. Allerdings habe ich nicht vorgesehen, dass es Inkscape-extract mit der Option IMPORTANT gibt - nur entweder/oder ist moglich. Die IMPORTANT-Option verstehe ich ohnehin nicht so recht; es ist eine besonders heilige Form der Abspeicherung? Die geschutzt bleiben soll, also nicht mit Adobe rangehen? All der fur den librsvg vollkommen redundante Inkscape-Ballast soll bestehen bleiben? Wie auch immer, wie du weisst bin ich kein begeisterter Anhanger von aufgeblahtem Code. Und ob Inkscape das so oder so macht bereitet mir keine schlaflosen Nachte.<br/> <a href="/wiki/Template:Graphic_Lab/statistics" title="Template:Graphic Lab/statistics">Graphic Lab/statistics</a> enthalt einige aktualisierte Informationen: jedes nationale Graphic lab kann mit g=<small><code>ISOcode</code></small> spezifiziert werden, doch sind alle mir zZ bekannten Labs besser mit (<a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-bn" title="Category:Graphic Lab-bn">gb</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-Commons" title="Category:Graphic Lab-Commons">gc</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-de" title="Category:Graphic Lab-de">gd</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-es" title="Category:Graphic Lab-es">ge</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-fr" title="Category:Graphic Lab-fr">gf</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-it" title="Category:Graphic Lab-it">gi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-he" title="Category:Graphic Lab-he">gj</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-en" title="Category:Graphic Lab-en">gl</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-pl" title="Category:Graphic Lab-pl">gP</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_Lab-ru" title="Category:Graphic Lab-ru">gr</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Graphic_workshop" title="Category:Graphic workshop">gw</a>) anzugeben - die meisten Kurzcodes sind gut verstandlich, und wir werden meist mit <tt>gd</tt> zu tun haben. Olivers script ist bei vielen Kurzformen nicht ganz auf dem aktuellen Stand: es wird "Grafikwerkstatt" mit g=de ubernommen, aber wenn bereits g=de oder gd eingetragen ist wird das nicht ubernommen - so ging es auch beim Logo-SH-web verloren. Danke, dass du es gemerkt hast! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z-Logo-SH-web.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z-Logo-SH-web.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z-Logo-SH-web.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-16T10:39:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z-Logo-SH-web.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-16T10:39:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-16T05:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Das "IMPORTANT" hier war ein Fehler, ich las es früher als "IMPORTIERT" (eigentlich bin ich nicht so schlecht in Englisch), aber es bedeutet "WICHTIG", also bei der Datei war es falsch.</dd> <dd>Importierte Dateien haben idR keine wichtigen Editor-Daten die erhalten bleiben sollen, weil sie in einem anderen Program (z.B. als PDF) gespeichtert wurden.</dd> <dd>Die IMPORTANT-Option, heißt, dass Editor-Daten vorhanden sind, die nicht entfernt werden sollen. Bei Adobe/SVG-Opitmierer soll man speicher-Optionen wählen, sodass Editor-Daten erhalten bleiben. Beispiele: <ul><li><code>&lt;inkscape:grid</code>Ein Gitter wird zum Einrasten verwendet, also wenn man zwei striche mit der Länge 5 zeichnet hat man exakt 5 und nicht "ungerade" Längen wie 5.1415, das kann das Erscheiungsbild vereinheitlichen, weil überall gleiche Abstände sind, ohne dies manuell machen zu müssen. Das Gitter wird nicht gerendert (nur optional in Inkscape).</li> <li><code>&lt;sodipodi:guide</code> Wenn man eine Hilfgerade Zeichnen will, z.B. damit alle Texte an der gleichen Linie ausgerichtet sind.</li> <li><code>sodipodi:cx=</code>, <code>sodipodi:cy=</code>, <code>sodipodi:rx=</code>, <code>sodipodi:ry=</code>, <code>sodipodi:type="arc"</code> wird bei <code>&lt;path</code>-Daten für Kreissegmente verwendet, die als Kreissegmente bearbeitbar sind und nicht mit den Pfad-daten Knotenpunkten und tagenten. Gerendert wird zwar das d-attribut des Pfades, aber man kann trozdem z.B. leicht den Radius oder den Öffnungswinkel ändern.</li> <li><code>inkscape:groupmode="layer"</code> <code>inkscape:label=</code> Wird bei Gruppen verwendet um Ebenen zu verwenden, also z.B. zum sperren eines Layers(nicht bearbeitbar), dass man nicht ständig den Hintergrund uanabsichtlich verschiebt, oder man kann Layer in der GUI per klick ausblenden, das bei "normalen" Gruppen in Inkscape nicht so leicht funktioniert.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Also die Editor-Daten sind für die Darstellung irrelevant (genauso wie man ein Rechteck auch als Pfad darstellen kann), aber gewisse Daten sind für die Bearbeitung mittels GUI oft hilfreich.</dd> <dd>Nutzlose Editor-Daten sollten auf Commons vor dem Hochladen entfernt werden. Aber Aufgrund der leichteren Bearbeitung soll generell auch <code>&lt;text</code> verwendet werden und nicht der Text in einen Pfad konvertiert werden, selbst wenn der Pfad idR besser gerendert wird (abgesehen von der kleineren Dateigröße).</dd> <dd>Die important-Option sagt aus, dass andere Editoren ev. nicht die Funktion haben das sinnvoll zu editieren (analog so als würde Adobe nur die Pfad-Daten haben, aber Inkscape noch den originalen Text zum bearbeiten) und dass man Editor-Daten nicht unüberlegt wegoptimieren soll wenn man die Datei überschreibt.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a 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Du hast jetzt die Rechte eines Administrators auf Commons. Nimm dir bitte einen Moment Zeit, um dir die Seite <a href="/wiki/Commons:Administratoren" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:Administratoren">Commons:Administratoren</a> und die in Verbindung mit der Beobachtungsliste stehenden Seiten durchzulesen (insbesondere <a href="/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard" title="Commons:Administrators' noticeboard">Commons:Administrators' noticeboard</a> und <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests" title="Commons:Deletion requests">Commons:Deletion requests</a>), bevor du damit beginnst, Seitenlöschungen, Accountsperrungen oder Änderungen am Seitenschutzstatus bzw. an den geschützten Seiten selbst durchzuführen. Der Großteil der Bearbeitungen eines Administrators kann durch andere Administratoren wieder rückgängig gemacht werden, mit Ausnahme der Zusammenführung von Versionsgeschichten, die deshalb mit spezieller Obacht behandelt werden muss. </p><p>Wir laden dich herzlich ein, mit uns auf IRC Kontakt aufzunehmen: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-commons">#wikimedia-commons @ irc.freenode.net</a>. Es gibt auch einen <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-commons-admin">Channel für Commons-Admins</a>, der für sensiblere Themen sowie zur Koordination unter Admins genutzt werden kann. Du findest zudem in dem <a href="/wiki/Commons:Ratgeber_zur_Administratorent%C3%A4tigkeit" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:Ratgeber zur Administratorentätigkeit">Commons:Ratgeber zur Administratorentätigkeit</a> vielleicht eine nützliche Lektüre. </p><p>Bitte überprüfe, ob du in der <a href="/wiki/Commons:List_of_administrators" title="Commons:List of administrators">Commons:List of administrators</a> und den jeweils nach Datum oder Sprache sortierten Listen eingetragen wurdest, und ergänze deine Daten andernfalls.<br clear="all"/> </p> </div> <dl><dd>I would suggest you to use new rights only in areas of your expertise or obvious cases at beginning. If you'll have doubts you should dig into pages like <a href="/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory" title="Commons:Copyright rules by territory">Commons:Copyright rules by territory</a>, only mark problematic files and leave final decision for other administrators. --<a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Administrator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Administrator"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z","author":"EugeneZelenko","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Administrator","replies":["c-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Administrator"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z"></span>Auch nen herzlichen Glückwunsch von mir, hatt ich gar nicht gesehen! <a href="/wiki/User:Habitator_terrae" title="User:Habitator terrae">Habitator terrae</a> <a href="/wiki/Earth" title="Earth">🌍</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 23 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Habitator terrae","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ruthven-2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2019-06-17T14:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruthven-2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z"></span>Congrats! I just forgot to pass by and vote, but I'm happy for your adminship. If you need help on some administrative stuff, feel free to ask. Cheers! --<span style="font-family:Times; color:#219"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Ruthven" title="User:Ruthven">Ruthven</a></b></span> <span style="color:#0070EE"><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ruthven" title="User talk:Ruthven"><span style="color:#101090">msg</span></a>)</small></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Ruthven-2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 24 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruthven-2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z","author":"Ruthven","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ruthven-2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruthven-2019-06-24T15:17:00.000Z-Habitator_terrae-2019-06-23T20:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Edit_request-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Edit request&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Edit request&quot;}--><h2 id="Edit_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_request-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_request-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"></span>Edit request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_request-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Edit_request-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Edit_request-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Edit request&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Edit request&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request"></span>Hallo Administrator, jetzt kann ich also auch dich mit solchen requests nerven... Das meiste ist aus gutem Grund protected, aber manches auch vollkommen überflüssig - zB <i>file decriptions</i>, wie bei <a href="/wiki/File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg" title="File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg">Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg</a>! Da wäre es sehr sinvoll, den protection level ein wenig zu reduzieren. <br/> Mein erster request an dich: bitte übertrage den Code aus <a href="/wiki/Template:Created_with_.../sandbox/en" title="Template:Created with .../sandbox/en">Template:{{Created with .../sandbox/en}}</a> nach <a href="/wiki/Template:Created_with_.../en" title="Template:Created with .../en">Template:{{Created with .../en}}</a>.<br/> Achja, meinen herzlichen Glückwunsch zu deiner Aufwertung bzw. <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatifikation" class="extiw" title="de:Beatifikation">Beatifikation</a>! Es haben also genug Leute deine Arbeit wertvoll gefunden. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z-Edit_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span></dd> <dd>Bitte kontrolliere die Template-Änderung: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/356159486" title="Special:Diff/356159486">Special:Diff/356159486</a>, ich habe die Vorlage {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Heavily_used_template" title="Template:Heavily used template">Heavily used template</a>}} drinnen gelassen, oder soll die rauskommen?</dd> <dd>Bei <a href="/wiki/File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg" title="File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg">File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg</a> habe ich bearbeiten der Seite für registrierte Nutzer erlaubt, oder magst du auch reuploaden?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 26 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z","c-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-26T15:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"></span>Danke, es ist alles in Ordnung so: die erbetene Änderung, die Erlaubnis (nein, kein reupload), danke für deine Hilfe --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T04:32:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"></span>Jetzt verstehe ich deine Frage; aber es scheint mir dass du "Heavily used" nicht <i>drinnen gelassen</i> sondern hineingenommen hast! Egal, ich habe es aus der (neuen) Docu ausgeblendet, damit es nicht zweimal aufscheint.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Ist es dir recht wenn ich nicht die offizielle edit-request box nehme (die das dann sichtbar macht so dass ev. auch andere den request befriedigen) sondern so halboffiziell hier bei dir? Mein nachster request ist der Übertrag von <a href="/wiki/Template:Created_with/sandbox/en" title="Template:Created with/sandbox/en">{{Created with/sandbox/en}}</a> nach <a href="/wiki/Template:Created_with/en" title="Template:Created with/en">{{Created with/en}}</a>.</dd> <dd>Ich habe gesehen dass du <a href="/wiki/File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg" title="File:Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg">Notification-icon-Commons-logo.svg</a> nicht nur zugänglicher gemacht hast, sondern gleich mit dem script drüber gegangen bist. Und dich um prinzipielle Klärung bemüht hast, wie das nun damit sei, und andere Logos gefunden hast. Ubrigens, <a href="/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo.svg" title="File:Wikibooks-logo.svg">Wikibooks-logo.svg</a> ist <i>wirklich</i> ein Logo, und kein Icon! Hat dir das script wieder einen Streich gespielt, wegen dem Text "Fav<u>icon</u>"? Weil es einerseits nicht wichtig genug ist, und andrerseits der Unterschied zwischen Logo und Icon marginal ist, habe ich es so belassen. <small>Ich sehe gerade dass ich ohnehin nicht "<i>revertieren</i>" kann wg. cascade-protection.</small> Aber so wie ich dich nun kenne vermute ich fast, dass es dir keine Ruhe lasst und du es noch änderst - egal ob es dafürsteht oder nicht, und so gering der Unterschied auch ist zwischen "i" und "l". --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z","c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-26T17:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span>Wenn du <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steinsplitter#protecting_highly_visible_images" title="User talk:Steinsplitter">User_talk:Steinsplitter#protecting_highly_visible_images</a> meinst, das war schon drei Tage vor deinem Request. — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T16:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Was bedeutet<code>lang=en-bg</code> in dem Code <a href="/wiki/Template:Created_with/sandbox/en" title="Template:Created with/sandbox/en">{{Created with/sandbox/en}}</a> ?  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z"></span>IETF en-BG bedeutet Englisch wie in Bulgarien gesprochen. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-06-27T17:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Oweh, da habe ich eine Testeinstellung übersehen - trotz aller Kontrolle! Es soll natürlich heissen <tt>lang=en</tt>, ich bringe das schnell in Ordnung. Gut dass du das gemerkt hast (beim Vergleich alt/neu? ich mache das normalerweise auch, allerdings andersrum um zu sehen was anders sein wird), danke für die Vorsicht --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-06-27T20:20:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-06-27T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blacklist-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blacklist&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blacklist&quot;}--><h2 id="Blacklist" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blacklist-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blacklist-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"></span>Blacklist<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blacklist-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Blacklist-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blacklist-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blacklist&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blacklist&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist"></span>Hallo Johannes, eine deiner Spezialitäten ist doch das Aufspüren von Merkwürdigkeiten? Trotz diverser Bemühungen ist es mir nicht gelungen, embedded text wie in <a href="/wiki/File:U%2B26FD.svg" title="File:U+26FD.svg">U+26FD.svg</a> vom librsvg anzeigen zu lassen. Verschiedene Browser können das, aber nicht der libsvg. Kann am eingeschränkten Fontvorrat liegen.<br/> Die andere Merkwürdigkeit: ich hatte mal das Beispiel <a href="/wiki/File:%D6%8D.svg" title="File:֍.svg">֍.svg</a> hochgeladen, das auch nicht angezeigt wird. Wenn ich aber versuche, <a href="/wiki/File:U%2B058E.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:U+058E.svg">U+058E.svg</a> auf ֎.svg zu verschieben, oder auf diesen Namen hochzuladen, wird das wegen <i>blacklist</i>-Namen verweigert. Diese ominöse <i>blacklist</i> hatte mich auch gehindert, die Datei <a href="/wiki/File:%EC%98%A4%EB%A7%8C%EC%9B%90.jpg" title="File:오만원.jpg">오만원.jpg</a> unter einem sinnvollen Namen hochzuladen; wie ich auf der Beschreibungsswite notiert habe ist "50000 KRW 2009.jpg" zu <i>uninformativ</i>. Aber "오만원", "50000 Won" in koreanischen Zeichen wurden akzeptiert. Soll das jemand verstehen? Ich nicht --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z-Blacklist"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"></span>Ich schau mir das noch an, ich vermute das gewisse Schriftzeichen nicht verfügbar sind.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 6 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-06-28T13:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span>Ich vermute, dass es sich um fehlende Schriftzeichen handelt, eventuell Schriftart ändern.</dd> <dd>"50000 KRW 2009" klingt für einen Computer nach einer automatisierten Nummerierung, Technischen Bericht-nummer, aber nicht nach einen sinnvollen Namen. Eventuell werden Dateinamen mit überwiegend Zahlen nicht erlaubt.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 12 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-06T19:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Funktionieren bei dir die schriftzeichen im Browser:   — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 12 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Nein. diese Zeichen (aus der Unicode <i>Private Use Zone</i>) werden weder von FF noch von Chrome angezeigt, auch nicht offline.</dd> <dd>Hingegen wird nun <a href="/wiki/File:U%2B26FD.svg" title="File:U+26FD.svg">U+26FD.svg</a> in allen bisher getesteten Funktionen vom librsvg richtig angezeigt!</dd> <dd>Bei der Banknote ist merkwürdig, dass <a href="/wiki/File:50000_KRW_2009_ob.jpg" title="File:50000 KRW 2009 ob.jpg">50000 KRW 2009 ob.jpg</a> offensichtlich moglich war - obwohl AKAIK der uploader keine besonderen Rechte innehat - liegt vermutlich am "ob"? Zerbrich dir nicht daruber deinen Kopf, es ist keine Aktion notwendig, ich dachte nur dass dich solche Merkwürdigkeiten interessieren. Danke für deine Mühe! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 13 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-12T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Intercultural_competence.svg-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z-File:Intercultural_competence.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Intercultural competence.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Intercultural competence.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="File:Intercultural_competence.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Intercultural_competence.svg-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Intercultural_competence.svg-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Intercultural_competence.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Intercultural competence.svg (page does not exist)">File:Intercultural competence.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Intercultural_competence.svg-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-File:Intercultural_competence.svg-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z-File:Intercultural_competence.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z-File:Intercultural_competence.svg","timestamp":"2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Intercultural_competence.svg-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z-File:Intercultural_competence.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Intercultural competence.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Intercultural competence.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table class="layouttemplate" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:0; 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&amp;action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z-File:Intercultural_competence.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 2 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beland-2019-07-02T21:11:00.000Z-File:Intercultural_competence.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-librsvg_and_linearGradient-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-librsvg_and_linearGradient-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"></span>librsvg and linearGradient<span data-mw-comment-end="h-librsvg_and_linearGradient-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-librsvg_and_linearGradient-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Glrx-2019-07-18T22:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-07-18T22:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-librsvg_and_linearGradient-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;librsvg and linearGradient&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;librsvg and linearGradient&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:SVG_Gradient.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/SVG_Gradient.svg/220px-SVG_Gradient.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="147" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/SVG_Gradient.svg/330px-SVG_Gradient.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/SVG_Gradient.svg/440px-SVG_Gradient.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="341"/></a><figcaption>The gradients on the top row do not work because single quotation marks were used. The color gradient in the middle row works; it does not use single quotation marks. The bottom left rectangle is correct; it uses <code>userSpaceOnUse</code> and correctly interprets the rotation. The two bottom right rectangles use <code>objectBoundingBox</code>; they should be identical to the left rectangle but are not. They do not have a bright white at the northwest and southeast edges.</figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">user:Cmglee</a> had an issue with gradients a little while ago. I did a workaround on <a href="/wiki/File:Comparison_visual_landing_systems.svg" title="File:Comparison visual landing systems.svg">his image</a> with <code>userSpaceOnUse</code>, but I never understood the <code>librsvg</code> error. I just ran into trouble using linear gradients on <a href="/wiki/File:Chevron_Logo.svg" title="File:Chevron Logo.svg">File:Chevron Logo.svg</a>. I made the test file <a href="/wiki/File:SVG_Gradient.svg" title="File:SVG Gradient.svg">File:SVG Gradient.svg</a> expecting the <code>userSpaceOnUse</code> examples (the two on the left) to work but expecting the other four <code>objectBoundingBox</code> examples to fail. They all fail, and I do not have a clue. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z-librsvg_and_linearGradient"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"></span>What a mess. There were three bugs confounding me. <code>librsvg</code> cannot parse <code>fill="url('#ident')"</code>; it gets confused by the single quotation marks; it needs <code>fill="url(#ident)"</code>. (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228321" class="extiw" title="phab:T228321">Phab:T228321</a>.) I tested for that problem, but my tests were masked because the MW upload preview presents gradient fills as black; I was relying on the preview to be accurate to avoid uploading lots of tests. After all that, there is Cmglee's <code>librsvg</code> bug about rotated user spaces. (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228325" class="extiw" title="phab:T228325">Phab:T228325</a>.) <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-15T16:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span> Sorry for not answering earlier. I wasn't able to find out the problem imediatly. I would have to compare it with a working version and always change one attribute to see where the error occours, so I would not found it out faster than you.</dd> <dd>I thought the >>MW upload preview&lt;&lt; is done by the own browser?</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-07-18T22:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-07-17T18:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-07-18T22:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z"></span>I am not sure what MW does with its preview. The preview used to done by the browser, so it would display correctly even if librsvg could not display it correctly. I would always upload to see what librsvg would do with it. Then there was an announcement of a feature to render images as MW would display them. I got the impression that the preview was accurate, so I stopped the upload if the preview still had problems. But now the situation has flipped. The preview might be wrong, but librsvg may display it correctly. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-07-18T22:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-07-18T22:49:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T19:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T06:13:00.000Z-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-07-18T06:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r428405392">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i,.mw-parser-output .hatnote.noitalic{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote+div.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}@media print{.mw-parser-output .hatnote{display:none}}</style><div role="note" class="hatnote">Main gallery: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Begoon#Need_Help" title="User talk:Begoon">User_talk:Begoon#Need_Help</a>.</div> <p>thank you for your help on <a href="/wiki/File:Transit_timetable.svg" title="File:Transit timetable.svg">File:Transit timetable.svg</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Sushant_savla" title="User:Sushant savla">Sushant savla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sushant_savla" title="User talk:Sushant savla"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:56, 18 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z","author":"Sushant savla","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T06:13:00.000Z-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T06:13:00.000Z-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sushant_savla" title="User:Sushant savla">Sushant savla</a>: </span></dd> <dd>There is still a problem with the <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Transit_timetable.svg/759px-Transit_timetable.svg.png">759px-Version</a> (at least on my pc) see <a href="/wiki/Commons:Help_desk#can_someone_help_me_clearing_the_cache?" title="Commons:Help desk">Commons:Help_desk#can_someone_help_me_clearing_the_cache?</a> for details.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T06:13:00.000Z-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 18 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-18T06:13:00.000Z-Sushant_savla-2019-07-18T01:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Rsvg_bugs-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rsvg_bugs-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"></span>Rsvg bugs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rsvg_bugs-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rsvg_bugs-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rsvg_bugs-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rsvg bugs&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rsvg bugs&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs"></span>Bei <a href="/wiki/File:Sri_Lanka_Ampara_District.svg" title="File:Sri Lanka Ampara District.svg">Sri Lanka Ampara District.svg</a> fallt mir auf: </p><p>|other versions=[[:Image:ampara.png]]{{technically replaced|Sri Lanka Ampara District Workaround.svg|description=kerning error: [[bugzilla:34947]]}}<br/> |other fields={{Igen|ArcMap |2|+|s=m|?r=text}} </p> <ul><li>Die Datei "Ampara.png" gibt es nicht mehr</li> <li>Das "Technically replaced" ist veraltet, <i>other fields</i> ist uberflussig, das kann doch nun <u>alles</u> vom "Igen" erledigt werden:</li></ul> <p>|other fields={{Igen|ArcMap |2|+|s=m|?r=kerning error: [[bugzilla:34947]]|?n=Sri Lanka Ampara District Workaround.svg}} <br/> Dieses Doppeltagging haben noch viele andere Dateien (zB <a href="/wiki/File:Coa_Frankfurt-H%C3%B6chst_Test.svg" title="File:Coa Frankfurt-Höchst Test.svg">Coa Frankfurt-Höchst Test.svg</a>); wenn also mal ohnehin was zu andern ist, kann es mit "?r" und ggf. "?n" ersetzt werden.<br/><small>Mit deiner Familie wird es hoffentlich besser?</small> Ich werde nun auch einige Tage weg sein, vll 2 Wochen. LG --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z-Rsvg_bugs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Bug-Categorisierung: Danke für die Info, ich sehe es nicht notwendig altdateien zu ändern für neue werde ich es machen.</dd> <dd><i>other fields</i> ist aber nicht generell uberflussig? Ich kenne durch dich jetzt <code>|?n=</code> vorher kannt ich nur <code>|\</code>. In <a href="/wiki/File:T20936_Hairline_cracks.svg" title="File:T20936 Hairline cracks.svg">File:T20936_Hairline_cracks.svg</a> würde ich other fields lassen.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Leider am Fr. wieder kurz im Spital, weil die Wunde aufgrissen ist und ich war am WE bei meinen Eltern die haben mich die ganzen zwei Tage gebraucht, bin nicht mal zum E-Mails lesen gekommen.</dd></dl> <dl><dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 22 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-07-22T18:41:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-07-20T06:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Neue_Vorlage-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Neue Vorlage&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Neue Vorlage&quot;}--><h2 id="Neue_Vorlage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Neue_Vorlage-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Neue_Vorlage-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"></span>Neue Vorlage<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Neue_Vorlage-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Neue_Vorlage-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Neue_Vorlage-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Neue Vorlage&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Neue Vorlage&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage"></span>Hallo Johannes, ich habe schon lange kein Bulletin mehr von dir; wie ist denn jetzt die Situation zuhause? </p><p>Falls du mal damit rumspielen willst, es gibt nun endlich die neue <a href="/wiki/Template:File_generation_description" title="Template:File generation description">Vorlage</a>. Ich weiss nicht ob du Zeit und Lust zu so etwas hast; ich bin naturlich an feedback, auch Fehlerhinweisen, interessiert. Aber das ist naturlich vor allem die Sache des Users L. - seinetwegen habe ich diese Aufgabe übernommen... --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 16 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z-Neue_Vorlage"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"></span>Die Wochenenden sind verplant, weil wir meinen Eltern viel helfen müssen und seit gestern habe ich auch meinen PC aus der Reperatur. Ich hatte auch Urlaub, aber darüber schweige ich mich online aus Sicherheitsgründen aus.</dd> <dd>Mir sind schon aufgefallen, dass du eine neue Vorlage verwendest</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js" title="User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js">User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js</a> versteht die neue Vorlage (soweit ich weiß) nicht, daher sehe ich es problematisch.</dd> <dd>Ich wollte eigentlich urspünglich nur andiskutieren ob Igen mit Image Generation im Perhelion-Script ersetzt werden sollte.</dd> <dd>Auch wenn ich die Vorlagen regelmässig verwende ist mir das nicht weiter wichtig. (Solange die Funktionen die ich für wichtig erachte vorhanden sind.)</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 17 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-08-16T12:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Antarctica.svg-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Antarctica.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Antarctica.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="File:Antarctica.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Antarctica.svg-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Antarctica.svg-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica.svg" title="File:Antarctica.svg">File:Antarctica.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Antarctica.svg-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-File:Antarctica.svg-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Antarctica.svg-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Antarctica.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Antarctica.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg"></span>Hi. I reverted your addition of Russian to <a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica.svg" title="File:Antarctica.svg">File:Antarctica.svg</a>. The original file was English. A French translation was added; the file translated each label/location (that is, a separate <code>switch</code> for each label). You added Russian, but you added Russian as a single plane ("planar translation": one <code>switch</code> for all Russian translation labels). That means the labels to translate are now organized two different ways. The file has many problems, and adding the Russian that way makes the file even more troubled. Also, I fear that such an organization would confuse SVG Translate. <a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 25 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z-File:Antarctica.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a>: </span>No problem, a comment in the file-description would have been enough. But thank you for explaining it in detail on my talkpage, I consider it as a very polite (and save) way.</dd> <dd>I would reupload it now to <a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica-ru.svg" title="File:Antarctica-ru.svg">File:Antarctica-ru.svg</a> (or should I remove all those switches)</dd> <dd>it seems that <a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica-ru.svg" title="File:Antarctica-ru.svg">File:Antarctica-ru.svg</a> has a damaged background (color of ocean not centered, and look at the lower right corner there is a strange line), therfore I would <a class="external free" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/c/c0/20190825163108%21Antarctica.svg">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/c/c0/20190825163108%21Antarctica.svg</a> reupload to <a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica-ru.svg" title="File:Antarctica-ru.svg">File:Antarctica-ru.svg</a> (I think mering-spliting would be possible, but I think thats to complicated, also it would take less diskspace.)</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z-Glrx-2019-08-25T16:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z"></span>I think only <a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica.svg" title="File:Antarctica.svg">File:Antarctica.svg</a> should have switch translations; the -ru version should not have any language <code>switch</code> elements.</dd> <dd>I'm not sure repairing the -ru version is worth too much effort for a variety of reasons.</dd> <dd>Any efforts for this group of maps should go into fixing <a href="/wiki/File:Antarctica.svg" title="File:Antarctica.svg">File:Antarctica.svg</a>. Many text labels need to be joined together. Unfortunately, <code>librsvg</code> cannot handle <code>textPath</code>, and that makes translation a chore for several labels.</dd> <dd>Do not worry too much about saving disk space. The last time I bought disks, it was $30/TB. I do not want to waste space, but it may not be economic to spend much time trying to save small amounts of it. I wish MW would directly serve SVG files so tool tips and animations would work; at that point, the size of SVG files may be an important issue because it is network bandwidth. IIRC, WMF is averaging 3000 transactions per second. I wish also that SVG files could use external URLs. The Antarctica maps could share one copy of the bulky geography, and JPEG and PNG files could be SVG labeled without embedding the bitmaps. I do not detect interest by WMF; it has too many other problems.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Glrx" title="User:Glrx">Glrx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Glrx" title="User talk:Glrx"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 25 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z","author":"Glrx","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glrx-2019-08-25T22:42:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-08-25T21:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z"><span id="File:Germany_.28.2Bdistricts_.2Bmunicipalities.29_location_map_current.svg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Germany_(%2Bdistricts_%2Bmunicipalities)_location_map_current.svg" title="File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg">File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg","c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;File:Germany (+districts +municipalities) location map current.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"></span>Super, dass du dich um die Aktualisierung der Karte verdient gemacht hast. Auch wie du das jetzt mit der Umbenennungen und den in Hinweis in der 2013 Karte gelöst hast, ist super. Vorbildlich. Du bist dann übrigens der Urheber der neuen Karte, nicht ich. ;-) </p><p>Kleine wohlgemeinte Nachfrage: hast du eigentlich alle Gemeinden aktualisiert? Seit 2013 sind Pi mal Daumen circa 300 Gemeinden in Deutschland aufgelöst worden, vgl. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinde_(Deutschland)">[6]</a>. Hildesheim war auch nicht die einzige Neugliederung eines Landkreises. Falls nicht ist dieses Version ja auch wieder anachronistisch. Eigentlich ändert sich dauernd was - warum ich auch immer davor zurückgescheut bin, diese Karte aktuell zu halten. Am Ende sieht man ja sowieso nicht mehr als Grenzgewusel. Liebe Grüße. --<a href="/wiki/User:TUBS" title="User:TUBS">TUBS</a><sup><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TUBS" title="User talk:TUBS"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Mail-closed.svg/15px-Mail-closed.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Mail-closed.svg/23px-Mail-closed.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Mail-closed.svg/30px-Mail-closed.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 2 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z","author":"TUBS","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TUBS-2019-09-02T16:02:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"></span> </p> <blockquote class="templatequote language"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"></span>Du bist dann übrigens der Urheber der neuen Karte, nicht ich. </p></blockquote> <dl><dd>Ich bin der Meinung, dass du der Hauptautor bist der >99% des Inhaltes erstellt hat, eine Linie zu löschen ist keine Schöpferische Leistung, und daher würde ich mich selbst nicht mal als Mitautor sehen. Sieh dir auch die Bearbeitung von <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">Perhelion</a>: </span> an: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/271195683" title="Special:Diff/271195683">Special:Diff/271195683</a>, die zeigt ähnliche Interpretation</dd> <dd>Ich kenne auch "Diese Angaben dürfen in jeder angemessenen Art und Weise gemacht werden, allerdings nicht so, dass der Eindruck entsteht, der Lizenzgeber unterstütze gerade Sie oder Ihre Nutzung besonders." <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.de">https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.de</a> daher darf ich dich als Urheber auch nicht anführen, weil du der Abwandlung nicht zugestimmt hast.</dd> <dd>Um die beiden Punkte zu erfüllen, müsste man zu den Urhebern deren Leistung dazuschreiben. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> vertritt (wenn ich mich recht erinnere) der Auffassung, dass bei Urheber ausschließlich Namen stehen sollen, weil diese maschienenlesbar sein sollen, insofern ist das auch keine Lösung.</dd></dl> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:TUBS" title="User:TUBS">TUBS</a>: </span> Danke für den Hinweis, ich dachte aufgrund von einer E-Mail-Anfrage, dass sich nur der eine Landkreis geändert hat. Vl. aktualisiere ich die Karte noch, ich hab mal <a href="/wiki/Template:Update" title="Template:Update">{{Update}}</a> eingefügt.</dd></dl> <dl><dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 2 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z-File:Germany_(+districts_+municipalities)_location_map_current.svg"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z"></span>Sarang vertritt… Das ist so nicht auf <i>meinem</i> Mist gewachsen, ich gebe das lediglich weiter. Die Geschichte ist: ich habe mich schon länger um Validierung&amp;Kategorisierung bemüht, und einer meiner ersten Versuche das mit einer Vorlage in den Griff zu bekommen war, so etwas in das <tt>author</tt>-Feld zu stellen - als Erweiterung des Autors also Anmerkungen zu seiner Datei zu hinterlegen: Versuch <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sarang/Archive/2014#Template:Uf"><b>2014: Vorlage "Uf"</b></a></span>. Da habe ich schnell eins auf die Mütze bekommen, mit dem Hinweis <u>dass in diesem Feld "wegen maschineller Auslesbarkeit" <i>nur</i> der Autor</u> stehen soll (es gibt auch noch die Ansicht, dass nur der <tt>user</tt> selbst, und nicht seine <tt>talk page</tt>, ein Autor sein kann). Ich habe das verstanden und eingesehen, und als Folge das "Image generation" für die <tt>other fields</tt> entwickelt. Inzwischen gibt es auf <s>viel</s><i>ein</i>fachen Wunsch die unkryptische Variante <a href="/wiki/Template:File_generation_description" title="Template:File generation description">File generation description</a>, die ziemlich genau dasselbe macht; mal sehen, ob das angenommen wird! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 3 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-09-03T08:48:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-02T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BadPDF_\/_superseded-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_\/_superseded&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BadPDF \/ superseded&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BadPDF \/ superseded&quot;}--><h2 id="BadPDF_/_superseded" data-mw-thread-id="h-BadPDF_/_superseded-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"><span id="BadPDF_.2F_superseded"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BadPDF_/_superseded-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"></span>BadPDF / superseded<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BadPDF_/_superseded-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-BadPDF_\/_superseded-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_\/_superseded"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-14T13:43:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-09-14T13:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BadPDF_\/_superseded-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_\/_superseded&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BadPDF \/ superseded&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BadPDF \/ superseded&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_/_superseded"></span>Das ist ein Bereich mit dem ich noch nichts zu tun hatte, deshalb muss ich dumm fragen. Was sind "Superseded Files with inappropriate PDF format"? Normalerweise kann eine Datei superseded sein "by" einer anderen (die dann ihrerseits <i>superseding</i> ist bezüglich des superseded file); das "with" in diesem Zusammenhang ist mir einstweilen noch nicht so verständlich. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Template:BadPDF" title="Template:BadPDF">{{BadPDF}}</a> kann ich gerne um einen Parameter zB "superseded by=" erweitern; anstattt dann viel im BadPDF zu tun erscheint es mir sinnvoller, von dort dann <a href="/wiki/Template:Superseded" title="Template:Superseded">{{Superseded}}</a> aufzurufen. Ist fast so wie diese beiden Vorlagen hintereinander einzubinden – nur ein klein wenig kompakter. Ist es das was du willst? Anderfalls sag es ein wenig deutlicher. --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_/_superseded" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 4 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_/_superseded"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_\/_superseded","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z-BadPDF_/_superseded"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Die Kategorie <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Superseded_Files_with_inappropriate_PDF_format&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Superseded Files with inappropriate PDF format (page does not exist)"><em>Superseded_Files_with_inappropriate_PDF_format</em></a> ist für PDFs die sowohl <a href="/wiki/Category:Files_with_inappropriate_PDF_format" title="Category:Files with inappropriate PDF format">Files with inappropriate PDF format</a> (gem. <a href="/wiki/Commons:Project_scope#PDF" title="Commons:Project scope">Commons:Project_scope#PDF</a>, <a href="/wiki/Template:BadPDF" title="Template:BadPDF">{{BadPDF}}</a>) und bereits extrahiert <a href="/wiki/Category:Superseded" title="Category:Superseded">Superseded</a> sind. Lies dir vl. auch die letzten beiden Kommentare auf <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ras67#removing_badPDF" title="User talk:Ras67">User_talk:Ras67#removing_badPDF</a> (vom 03.09. und 05.09) durch.</dd> <dd>Ist die Kategorie <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Superseded_BadPDF&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Superseded BadPDF (page does not exist)"><em>Superseded BadPDF</em></a> vl. selbsterklärender? (Also dass nicht mit einem PDF ersetzt wurde, sondern dass ein PDF ersetzt wurde.)</dd> <dd>Aja, wenn ich dich zu etwas einteile/verdonnere, kannst du gerne Nein, sagen. (Ich bin nur zu unfähig multilinguale Templates zu bearbeiten.)  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-04T06:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z"></span>Es geht also um "superseded by=". Wird das vielleicht durch <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:BadPDF_superseded&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:BadPDF superseded (page does not exist)"><em>BadPDF superseded</em></a> noch deutlicher? Eventuell <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:BadPDF_%E2%80%93_superseded&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:BadPDF – superseded (page does not exist)"><em>BadPDF – superseded</em></a> oder <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:BadPDF_(superseded)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:BadPDF (superseded) (page does not exist)"><em>BadPDF (superseded)</em></a> ? Vielleicht fällt mir noch was optimales ein - ein kurzer aber selbsterklärender Kat_name. Jedenfalls, "removed" oder "replaced" trifft es nicht, da <i>superseded</i> ja lediglich die Option dazu bietet, obsolete Dateien zu ersetzen.</dd> <dd>Ist schon in Ordnung, jeder hat so seine Vorlieben und Fähigkeiten, das ist das Prinzip der Wikipedia! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 5 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-14T13:43:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-05T17:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-14T13:43:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-09-05T17:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> Deine Vorschläge gefallen mir gut, ich würde <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:BadPDF_(superseded)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:BadPDF (superseded) (page does not exist)"><em>BadPDF (superseded)</em></a> wählen.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; 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Se tiver dúvidas, não hesite em entrar em contato!—<a href="/wiki/User:Teles" title="User:Teles">Teles</a> «<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Teles" title="User talk:Teles"><span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em gray"><b>Talk to me</b></span></a> ˱<small><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Teles" title="Special:Contributions/Teles">C</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Teles" title="Special:Log/Teles">L</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Teles" title="Special:EmailUser/Teles">@</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Teles" class="extiw" title="sulutil:Teles">S</a></sub></small>˲»<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Teles-2019-09-04T21:59:00.000Z-Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019_-_Brasil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 4 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Teles-2019-09-04T21:59:00.000Z-Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019_-_Brasil"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-04T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Teles","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Teles-2019-09-04T21:59:00.000Z-Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019_-_Brasil","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Teles-2019-09-04T21:59:00.000Z-Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019_-_Brasil"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Community Insights Survey&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Community Insights Survey&quot;}--><h2 id="Community_Insights_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z"></span>Community Insights Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey","timestamp":"2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Community Insights Survey&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Community Insights Survey&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"></span>Share your experience in this survey</b> </p><p>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is asking for your feedback in a survey about your experience with Wikimedia Commons and Wikimedia. 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It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z","author":"RMaung (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T01:12:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey&quot;}--><h2 id="Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z"></span>Reminder: Community Insights Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey","timestamp":"2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"></span>Share your experience in this survey</b> </p><p>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p>A couple of weeks ago, we invited you to take the Community Insights Survey. It is the Wikimedia Foundation’s annual survey of our global communities. We want to learn how well we support your work on wiki. We are 10% towards our goal for participation. If you have not already taken the survey, you can help us reach our goal! <b>Your voice matters to us.</b> </p><p>Please take 15 to 25 minutes to <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0pSrrkJAKVRXPpj?Target=CI2019List(commons,act5)">give your feedback through this survey</a></b>. It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 20 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z","author":"RMaung (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T15:23:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;webservice restart https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;webservice restart https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/&quot;}--><h2 id="webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/" data-mw-thread-id="h-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"><span id="webservice_restart_https:.2F.2Ftools.wmflabs.org.2Fsvgworkaroundbot.2F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"></span>webservice restart <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;webservice restart https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;webservice restart https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/"></span>hi, hier steht man soll dich benachrichtigen, dass du den service neu starten kannst - wäre nett vielen dank: </p><p>If the Error "500 - Internal Server Error" ocours, the webservice hast to be restarted. There will be a button implemented, but now you have to message JoKalliauer to fix it. (see below) </p><p>gruß --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 26 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https:\/\/tools.wmflabs.org\/svgworkaroundbot\/","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z-webservice_restart_https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a>: </span> Hallo ich hab <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</a> probiert und es hat funktioniert, ich hab es dennoch neu gestartet.</dd> <dd>Ich habe festgestellt, dass nur Dateien bis 1MB funktionieren. Ich weiß nicht warum.</dd> <dd>Ich habe auf <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/T36947.html">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/T36947.html</a> einen Restart-Button eingeführt, jedoch funktioniert der nicht, entweder weil ich zu unfähig bin (d.h. ich kenn mich damit nicht aus) oder weil man den Webservice anonym nicht starten/restarten kann (vermutlich aber stopen).</dd> <dd>Kannst du schauen, ob es jetzt funktioniert. Wenn eine andere Fehlermedlung kommt liegt es an etwas anderem.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 27 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-09-26T16:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z"></span>entschuldigung für die späte rückmeldung - ich konnte noch keine datei mit deinem tool bearbeiten - es gibt immer den selben fehler - auch nach restart</dd> <dd>leider weiss ich gar nicht in welche richtung ich suchen und probieren könnte, sollte es an meinem system liegen</dd> <dd>hast du tipps? --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 7 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-10-07T20:02:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-09-27T19:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey 2&quot;}--><h2 id="Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Reminder: Community Insights Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2","timestamp":"2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder: Community Insights Survey 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2"></span>Share your experience in this survey</b> </p><p>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p>There are only a few weeks left to take the Community Insights Survey! We are 30% towards our goal for participation. If you have not already taken the survey, you can help us reach our goal! With this poll, the Wikimedia Foundation gathers feedback on how well we support your work on wiki. It only takes 15-25 minutes to complete, and it has a direct impact on the support we provide. </p><p>Please take 15 to 25 minutes to <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0pSrrkJAKVRXPpj?Target=CI2019List(commons,act5)">give your feedback through this survey</a></b>. It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 3 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z","author":"RMaung (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-03T20:01:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SVG Layers und svgcleaner&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SVG Layers und svgcleaner&quot;}--><h2 id="SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner" data-mw-thread-id="h-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"></span>SVG Layers und svgcleaner<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SVG Layers und svgcleaner&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SVG Layers und svgcleaner&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner"></span>Hallo JoKalliauer, </p><p>leider verschwinden nach der Bearbeitung mit svgcleaner die SVG-Layers (in die QGIS die Informationen aus der jeweiligen shape-files schreibt). Zum Beispiel <a href="/wiki/File:Cuenca-116-117-118-119-B.svg" title="File:Cuenca-116-117-118-119-B.svg">File:Cuenca-116-117-118-119-B.svg</a> (6.2 MB). Diese ist, m.E., ziemlich schwer zu bearbeiten (einen Namen löschen, ändern oder hinzufügen, Städte von png zu svg verwandeln, hydrografische Meßstationen hinzufügen, etc). </p><p>Ich bin nun übergegangen die unbearbeitete Dateien hochzuladen, z.B. <a href="/wiki/File:Cuenca-116-tortel.svg" title="File:Cuenca-116-tortel.svg">File:Cuenca-116-tortel.svg</a>. Diese Datei ist durch die Layers leichter zu handhaben aber sie ist 11.59 MB groß, doppelt so groß wie die vorherige bei etwa gleiche Landgröße. (Cuenca-116-tortel.svg hat allerdings auch die Landstrassen mit.) </p><p>Meine Frage ist: wie kann man erreichen dass die Layers die Bearbeitung mit svgcleaner überstehen?. --<a href="/wiki/User:Juan_Villalobos" title="User:Juan Villalobos">Juan Villalobos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Juan_Villalobos" title="User talk:Juan Villalobos"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 4 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Juan Villalobos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z-SVG_Layers_und_svgcleaner"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Juan_Villalobos" title="User:Juan Villalobos">Juan Villalobos</a>: </span> I hab <a href="/wiki/File:Cuenca-116-tortel.svg" title="File:Cuenca-116-tortel.svg">File:Cuenca-116-tortel.svg</a> hochgeladen, mit einigen sichbtaren Änderungen (vorallem beim Text). Kannst du bitte die letzte Datei kontrollieren, da habe ich ziemlich einen Pfusch gemacht, aber vl. passt es für dich, sonst meld dich nochmal und ich mach besser. Die Ebenen sollten noch funktionieren</dd> <dd>Folgende Optionen brauchst du dass die Layers die Bearbeitung überstehen: (je nach Software gibt es unterschiedliche Funktionen) <ol><li><code>svgcleaner --remove-nonsvg-attributes no</code> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/RazrFalcon/svgcleaner">https://github.com/RazrFalcon/svgcleaner</a></li> <li><code>svgo --disable=removeEditorsNSData</code> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/svg/svgo">https://github.com/svg/svgo</a></li> <li><code>scour --keep-editor-data</code> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/scour-project/scour">https://github.com/scour-project/scour</a></li> <li>bei Dateien &lt;1MB kannst du auch <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/">https://tools.wmflabs.org/svgworkaroundbot/</a> verwenden mit "svgcleaner" und/oder mit "scour" (ohne die letzte Option "make file valid")</li></ol></dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 5 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-04T15:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z"></span>Hallo JoKalliauer,</dd> <dd>Es funktioniert alles was ich merken kann.</dd> <dd>ich habe die blank spaces vor und nach der cuenca-nr gelöscht (" 11234 " zu "11234"). Dazu ein "Lago Brice o" korrigiert zu "Lago Briceño".</dd> <dd>Noch habe ich es nicht viel getestet. Bei einem Bild hatte ich eine neue Layer "caminos" hinzugefügt. Svgcleaner hat alle (alten) QGIS-Layers in einem neuen "directory" reingetan als "Unterlayer" des neuen Directory und paralell zu den neuen mein "caminos" Layer. Äusserlich war aber nichts zu merken.</dd> <dd>Ich werde es nur bei richtig grosse Einzugsgebiete verwenden. Vielleicht es ist besser grosse Gebiete in kleinere zu unterteilen: der Leser sieht mehr, es ist leichter zu bearbeiten.</dd> <dd>Danke, --<a href="/wiki/User:Juan_Villalobos" title="User:Juan Villalobos">Juan Villalobos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Juan_Villalobos" title="User talk:Juan Villalobos"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z","author":"Juan Villalobos","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Juan_Villalobos-2019-10-10T10:30:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T19:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-protection_level-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;protection level&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;protection level&quot;}--><h2 id="protection_level" data-mw-thread-id="h-protection_level-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-protection_level-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"></span>protection level<span data-mw-comment-end="h-protection_level-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-protection_level-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-protection_level-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;protection level&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;protection level&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level"></span>Hallo Johannes, kannst du bitte gelegentlich bei <a href="/wiki/File:Falta_imagen_hombre.svg" title="File:Falta imagen hombre.svg">Falta imagen hombre.svg</a> und <a href="/wiki/File:Falta_imagen_mujer.svg" title="File:Falta imagen mujer.svg">Falta imagen mujer.svg</a> den level ändern, auf [edit=<i>template editors</i>] ([move=sysop] &amp; [upload=sysop] ist ok). --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 5 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z-protection_level"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sarang" title="User:Sarang">Sarang</a>: </span> <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Done</bdi></b>  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-05T17:14:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-05T10:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;In regards to File:Test.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;In regards to File:Test.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="In_regards_to_File:Test.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"></span>In regards to <a href="/wiki/File:Test.svg" title="File:Test.svg">File:Test.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;In regards to File:Test.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;In regards to File:Test.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg"></span>Sorry, I wasn't aware of the optimized version. I just reverted to last version, I thought original. I didn't bother to check the file's history. I am actually a very lazy person, you know. <a href="/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 8 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z","author":"Masumrezarock100","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Masum Reza"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z-In_regards_to_File:Test.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>: </span> Honestly I optimized the file without consensus (therefore I am asking). (e.g. I added a Doctype-Defintion, which is controversial for SVG 1.1, because it is derecommended for the SVG2.0-draft and and even for SVG1.1 it is often derecommended because of false negatives.) I find the source code easier to read/edit. I changed the optimzied version to easier use <a href="/wiki/User:Rillke/SVGedit.js" title="User:Rillke/SVGedit.js">User:Rillke/SVGedit.js</a>.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T15:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z"></span>The current code looks ok. But I am not sure the id attribute is necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 8 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Masumrezarock100","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Masum Reza"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-08T17:00:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-08T16:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-pfeile_in_svg-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg&quot;,&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;pfeile in svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;pfeile in svg&quot;}--><h2 id="pfeile_in_svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-pfeile_in_svg-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-pfeile_in_svg-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"></span>pfeile in svg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-pfeile_in_svg-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-pfeile_in_svg-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg","c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg","c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:44:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-22T15:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__9__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-pfeile_in_svg-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg&quot;,&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;pfeile in svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;pfeile in svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"></span>hallo, mal wieder eine frage zu svgs</dd> <dd>anschauungsobjekt: <a href="/wiki/File:Organisation_NATO.svg" title="File:Organisation NATO.svg">File:Organisation NATO.svg</a></dd> <dd>ich habe das png dazu vektorisiert</dd> <dd>es geht um das thema pfeile in svgs? - ich habe gesehen dass am anfang der svg relative viel code entsteht</dd> <dd>alternative wäre, die pfeile (spitzen) in pfade umzuwandeln</dd> <dd>pro - contra?</dd> <dd>wie handhabst du das?</dd> <dd>danke und gruß --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a>: </span> Ich hab eine Version hochgeladen wie ich das handhaben würde, aber wie du das handhaben willst ist dir überlassen.  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-16T22:04:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-16T21:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"></span>hallo, danke für die antwort und danke für deine bearbeitung der grafik</dd> <dd>ein anderer user hat die datei direkt nach dir 'optimiert' - finde ich nicht gut und hab es <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100#c:File:Organisation_NATO.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100">angesprochen</a></dd> <dd>habe mir deinen entwurf genau angesehen und denke auch dass ich ihn nachvollziehen/lesen kann</dd> <dd>nur ist mir nicht klar, wie du zu dem ergebnis kommst</dd> <dd>was davon ist wirklich handarbeit und wann kommt welches helferlein zum einsatz</dd> <dd>du verwendest den marker für die pfeilspitzen effektiver wie das inkscape macht</dd> <dd>und wie inkscape mit text umgeht ist für mich unbefriedigend - wie kommst du zu dem reduzierten code für den text?</dd> <dd>die gruppierungen nach eigenschaften machst du doch sicherlich nicht mit der hand oder?</dd> <dd>p.s.: rein interessehalber habe ich mit einem regulärem ausdruck alle <code>d[xy]-elemente</code> entfernt und das erscheinungsbild bleibt gleich</dd> <dd>lade dafür aber keine neue version hoch</dd> <dd>kannst du kurz skizzieren wie du hier vorgehst? was ist handarbeit und wann benutzt du wofür welches tool?</dd> <dd>wäre dir dankbar, mir gefällt deine arbeit - gruß --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 17 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg","replies":["c-Mrmw-2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z"></span>du bist nicht mein svg-mentor - trotzdem pinge <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">JoKalliauer</a>: </span> ich dich nochmal</dd> <dd>auch wenn ich aufdringlich bin, nimms nicht persönlich</dd> <dd>wenn du zeit findest freue ich mich über zwei, drei zeilen - danke --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 18 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-10-18T12:30:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-17T15:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"></span>Mein Vater war diese Woche drei Tage im Spital und meine Mutter ist diese Woche gestürzt und ich arbeite Vollzeit an der Uni und studiere im Doktorat. Ich hatte deine Anfrage nicht vergessen, normalerweise arbeite ich so was am Wochenende ab, nur aufgrund meiner Eltern ist dies derzeit noch weniger möglich. Ich finde es echt nett mit dir zu schreiben, nur leider erwischt du mich genau in einem unpassenden Zeitraum (seit Juli). </p><p>Ich verwende <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG">https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG</a> . Wenn du es verwenden willst empfehle ich dir Installiere zuerst einmal nur scour, svgcleaner und svgo, siehe <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG#install-prerequiaries">https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG#install-prerequiaries</a> für meine installationshinweise. </p><p>Dann habe ich etwas wie </p> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;marker</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"a"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">overflow=</span><span class="s">"visible"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">orient=</span><span class="s">"auto"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;path</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">d=</span><span class="s">"m-5.2312-2.4202 6.5556 2.4106-6.5556 2.4106c1.0473-1.4232 1.0413-3.3705 0-4.8212z"</span><span 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</span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"z"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">overflow=</span><span class="s">"visible"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">orient=</span><span class="s">"auto"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;path</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">d=</span><span class="s">"m-5.2312-2.4202 6.5556 2.4106-6.5556 2.4106c1.0473-1.4232 1.0413-3.3705 0-4.8212z"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"#2c71ae"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill-rule=</span><span class="s">"evenodd"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke=</span><span class="s">"#2c71ae"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke-linejoin=</span><span class="s">"round"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke-width=</span><span class="s">".375"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;/marker></span> </pre></div> <p>Dann sieht man dass es der gleiche Pfad ist, nur eine andere Farbe, also kann man es ändern zu: </p> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-xml mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="nt">&lt;def></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;marker</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">id=</span><span class="s">"rotesEnde"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">overflow=</span><span class="s">"visible"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">orient=</span><span class="s">"auto"</span><span class="nt">></span> <span class="w"> </span><span class="nt">&lt;use</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">xlink:href=</span><span class="s">"#InkscapePfeil"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill=</span><span class="s">"#fa4f4b"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke=</span><span class="s">"#fa4f4b"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="w"> </span><span 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class="s">"m-5.2312-2.4202 6.5556 2.4106-6.5556 2.4106c1.0473-1.4232 1.0413-3.3705 0-4.8212z"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">fill-rule=</span><span class="s">"evenodd"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke-linejoin=</span><span class="s">"round"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">stroke-width=</span><span class="s">".375"</span><span class="nt">/></span> <span class="nt">&lt;/def></span> </pre></div> <p> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 18 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg","replies":["c-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z","c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z-pfeile_in_svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span>danke für deine antwort</dd> <dd>war nicht so gemeint, dass du dich privat rechtfertigen solltest</dd> <dd>hoffe es geht deinen eltern bald wieder gut bzw. besser</dd></dl> <dl><dd>ich kann die überlegungen wie gesagt, wo die redundanz in der inkscape version liegt, schon nachvollziehen - wenn ich vorher und nachher vergleiche</dd> <dd>mich interessiert, besserst du solche redundanzen mit der hand als ersten schritt aus - also im editor und ohne hilfsmittel? - auch bei großen svgs?</dd> <dd>oder übernimmt das eins von den genannten tools?</dd> <dd>bringst du im abschluß noch ein tool zum einsatz? ich denke da an die gruppierungen - oder per hand?</dd> <dd>und auch ganz konkret die frage: wie entschlackst du die textelemente? per hand oder tool?</dd> <dd>danke und gruß --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a 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<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-19T10:29:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z"></span>Also die händische Arbeit bei den <code>maker</code> ist oben beschrieben, das hab ich im Texteditor (notepad++) gemacht.</dd> <dd>Alle Gruppierungen auflösen mache ich mit <code>inkscape "./${file}.svg" --verb=EditSelectAll --verb=SelectionUnGroup --verb=SelectionUnGroup --verb=SelectionUnGroup --verb=SelectionUnGroup --verb=SelectionUnGroup --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose --verb=FileQuit</code> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/UngroupByInkscape.sh">UngroupByInkscape.sh</a>)</dd> <dd>Gruppierungen erstellen mache ich mit <code>svgcleaner input.svg output.svg --group-by-style yes</code> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/groupingcleaner4compression.sh">groupingcleaner4compression.sh</a>) und/oder mit <code>scour -i input.svg -o output.svg --create-groups</code> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/groupingscour4compression.sh">groupingscour4compression.sh</a>)</dd> <dd>Ich lösche alle &lt;text> mit (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/delText.sh">delText.sh</a>) (d.h. es bleibt alles andere übrig) und einmal lösche ich rect,path,circle,ellipse,polyline,polygon,line,image (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/delObj.sh">delObj.sh</a>) (d.h. es bleibt fast nur text über) und dann fürge ich ich die Textdatei händisch an die Objekt-Datei zusammen. Man mus achten, dass alle defs wie marker oder linearGradient als auch alle use,g,switch nicht doppelt vorkommen.</dd> <dd>Mit (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG/blob/master/tspan2text.sh">tspan2text.sh</a>) gebe ich die Atribute von tspan an text weiter, wobei hier häufig Informationen doppelt/wiedersprüchlich werden können, deshalb muss man in den meisten Fällen (aber nicht bei der Datei) handisch nacharbeiten (sonst wird die Datei gar nicht angzeigt wegen einem Fehler).</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-19T10:29:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-19T10:29:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-19T10:29:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-19T10:29:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-19T10:29:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-19T05:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span>wieder danke für die antwort - aber das muss ich erst mal checken wovon du da sprichst</dd> <dd>scheinen kommandozeilenbefehle zu sein - ob ich da auf windows überhaupt was damit anfangen kann? werde ich mich in einer ruhigen stunde mal reinvertiefen --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:44:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:44:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a>: </span> Die Kommandozeilenbefehle von inkscape, scour, svgo, svgcleaner funktionieren auch in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:cmd.exe" class="extiw" title="w:de:cmd.exe">w:de:cmd.exe</a> (Windows-Eingabeaufforderung). Mein Tool cleanupSVG rennt auf Windows nur in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Cygwin" class="extiw" title="w:de:Cygwin">w:de:Cygwin</a> (verwende ich) oder vermutlich auch in MSYS2 mit MinGW-w64. (deshalb würde ich dir von meinem Tool auch mal abraten.)</dd> <dd>Ich habe eine Installationsanleitung für scour&amp;svgo&amp;svgcleaner gemacht: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG#install-prerequiaries">https://github.com/JoKalliauer/cleanupSVG#install-prerequiaries</a></dd> <dd>Auf Wunsch kann ich auch Skripte von cleanupSVG auch als *.bat-Datei (ausführbare Windows-Datei) schreiben.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:44:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-zweite_Meinung-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z-zweite_Meinung&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;zweite Meinung&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;zweite Meinung&quot;}--><h2 id="zweite_Meinung" data-mw-thread-id="h-zweite_Meinung-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-zweite_Meinung-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z"></span>zweite Meinung<span data-mw-comment-end="h-zweite_Meinung-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-zweite_Meinung-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z-zweite_Meinung"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T16:21:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-22T16:21:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-zweite_Meinung-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z-zweite_Meinung&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;zweite Meinung&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;zweite Meinung&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z-zweite_Meinung"></span>hallo, diese <a href="/wiki/File:Alphabet_Hebrew.svg" title="File:Alphabet Hebrew.svg">Vektorisierung</a> hat mich ein wenig zeit gekostet und hab mir auch mühe gegeben - kannst du mir ein feedback geben?<br/> danke --<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrmw" title="User talk:Mrmw"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z-zweite_Meinung" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z-zweite_Meinung"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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wird, umso weniger entsprechen die zahlen den tatsachlichen werten. ich weiss, inkscape &amp;Co machen das bis zum exzess, aber es lasst sich eigentlich immer gut vermeiden.</dd> <dd>die <a href="/wiki/Category:Star_of_David" title="Category:Star of David">magendavid</a> ist sehr kompliziert gezeichnet, da ist zB <a href="/wiki/File:David_Star.svg" title="File:David Star.svg">David Star.svg</a> viel einfacher konstruiert.</dd> <dd>einige attribute sind voll redundant, nutzen nichts aber storen auch nicht.</dd> <dd>war es nicht moglich, die ivrit-buchstaben als embedded text einzubinden? <span style="font-family:Lato, serif;font-size:28px">א ב ג ד ה ו ז ח ט י כ ך ל מ ם נ ן ס ע פ ף צ ץ ק ר ש ת</span></dd> <dd>die latinisierung ist embedded, die lasst sich deshalb auch ganz leicht ein klein wenig grosser schreiben was vl. besser ware.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a>: weiter so! --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-10-22T08:41:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-10-22T08:41:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-21T20:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T08:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T08:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z","author":"Mrmw","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T08:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T16:21:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T08:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T16:21:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z"></span>Danke Sarang, du konntest es deutlich besser beantworten als ich.</dd> <dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Mrmw" title="User:Mrmw">Mrmw</a>: </span> Mir ist auf Commons niemand bekannt, der in so kurzer Zeit sich so viel SVG-Wissen wie du angeeignen konnte. :-D</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T16:21:00.000Z-Mrmw-2019-10-22T10:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-admin_work-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z-admin_work&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;admin work&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;admin work&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z-admin_work"></span>hallo Johannes, da kann ich auch als TE nicht ran; überschreibst du bitte den Code in <a href="/wiki/Template:Cl" title="Template:Cl">{{Cl}}</a> mit <code>#REDIRECT [[Template:C]]</code> danke --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z-admin_work" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z-admin_work"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="Template:Cl">{{Cl}}</a></li> <li>T1: {<a href="/wiki/Template:Cl" title="Template:Cl">{Cl}</a>}</li> <li>T2: {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cl" title="Template:Cl">Cl</a>}}</li></ol></dd> <dd>Gibt es dazu eine Entscheidung/Diskussion?</dd> <dd>Ich würde es eher so lassen wie es ist; Template-Änderungen sollten meines Wissens überlegt sein, weil sie einen hohen Serveraufwand bedeuten können.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z-Sarang-2019-10-22T07:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span>Gut, das Argument hat Gewicht; C kann zwar auch den namespace anzeigen aber nur mit weiterem Parameter <a href="/wiki/Category:TUtheSky" title="Category:TUtheSky">Category:TUtheSky</a>; also lassen wir zwei fast identische Vorlagen koexistieren, statt sie zusammenzuführen. Bei den T-Vorlagen ist es anders, es ist immer dieselbe Hauptvorlage mit unterschiedlichen Attributen, da gibt es noch Tl, erzeugt <a href="/wiki/Template:Cl" title="Template:Cl"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Cl}}</span></a>. Gruss --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarang-2019-10-22T16:19:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;text-decoration:overline CSS not working&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;text-decoration:overline CSS not working&quot;}--><h2 id="text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working" data-mw-thread-id="h-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z"></span>text-decoration:overline CSS not working<span data-mw-comment-end="h-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working","c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Perhelion-2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working&quot;,&quot;c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;text-decoration:overline CSS not working&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;text-decoration:overline CSS not working&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg/220px-Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="131" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg/330px-Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg/440px-Tetrahedral_angle_calculation.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="304"/></a><figcaption><code>tspan</code> with CSS class containing <code>text-decoration:overline</code> does not have overline (text after first two √ symbols)</figcaption></figure> <p>Hi JoKalliauer, </p><p>Thanks for noting the bug in <a href="/wiki/File:Tetrahedral_molecular_geometry_bond_angle.svg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:Tetrahedral molecular geometry bond angle.svg">File:Tetrahedral_molecular_geometry_bond_angle.svg</a>. There's another problem I can't solve: The <code>tspan</code> with CSS class containing <code>text-decoration:overline</code> does not have overline (text after first two √ symbols). It works OK on my web browser. I've reported it on <a href="/wiki/Librsvg_bugs#Rendering_of_text" title="Librsvg bugs">Librsvg_bugs#Rendering_of_text</a>. Have you encountered this problem before? </p><p>Thanks,<br/><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user:cmglee"><b>cmɢʟee</b></a> ⋅<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:cmglee" class="extiw" title="w:user talk:cmglee">τaʟκ</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 23 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cmglee-2019-10-23T19:36:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/T236398.svg/440px-T236398.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="145"/></a><figcaption><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236398" class="extiw" title="phab:T236398">phab:T236398</a></figcaption></figure> <dl><dd>I'm currently (after Work) take a look at it, and sorry for Pinging in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/371642398" title="Special:Diff/371642398">Special:Diff/371642398</a>, it was the coding mistake of <a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js" title="User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js">User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js</a> (<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">Perhelion</a>: </span>) in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/371642305" title="Special:Diff/371642305">my own edit</a>.</dd> <dd>I do not know <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/filters.html#feBlendElement">&lt;feBlend</a>,but it seems it needs an attribute <code>in2="</code> ( <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AFilepath%2FTetrahedral_molecular_geometry_bond_angle.svg&amp;doctype=Inline&amp;ss=1">Validator</a>).</dd> <dd>Yesterday I reported a Inkscape-Bug (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/1065">https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/1065</a>), but also scour, svgcleaner and svgo have problems with this file (Bugreports will follow).</dd> <dd>Regarding <code>text-decoration:overliney</code>: Yesterday I found <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T15495" class="extiw" title="phab:T15495">phab:T15495</a> and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124446" class="extiw" title="phab:T124446">phab:T124446</a> and others, but it seems to be a new error.</dd> <dd>I would optimize the file (for having an easier bug-example) and extract a miminal (not) working example, and write a <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phab:">phab:</a>-Bug-Report.</dd> <dd> — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z-text-decoration:overline_CSS_not_working"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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<small><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Perhelion-2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Perhelion-2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Perhelion-2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Perhelion","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Perhelion-2019-10-28T14:10:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"User: Perhelion"}}--></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T17:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z"></span>As you already saw, I created <a href="/wiki/File:T236398.svg" title="File:T236398.svg">File:T236398.svg</a> and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236398" class="extiw" title="phab:T236398">phab:T236398</a> (It's independed if CSS or xml-Attribut).  — <a href="/wiki/User:JoKalliauer" title="User:JoKalliauer">Johannes <span style="color:black; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Kalliauer</span></a> - <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer" title="Special:Contributions/JoKalliauer">Contributions</a></small> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T17:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T17:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-24T17:25:00.000Z","author":"JoKalliauer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T17:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Johannes Kalliauer"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T17:25:00.000Z-JoKalliauer-2019-10-24T08:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Proposal-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;}--><h2 id="Proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposal-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposal-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z"></span>Proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposal-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposal-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal","timestamp":"2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Proposal-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal"></span>Hallo Johannes, ich habe nun noch einmal einen <a href="/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#Information" title="Commons:Village pump/Proposals">weiteren Versuch</a> gestartet. mfg --<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarang" title="User talk:Sarang"> sarang</a></i><span style="color:#800">♥</span><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarang" class="extiw" title="de:User:Sarang">사랑</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 25 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z","author":"Sarang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarang-2019-10-25T16:33:00.000Z-Proposal","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc0ac\ub791"}}--></span><span 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I tried to convert <a href="/wiki/File:Splicesome.pdf" title="File:Splicesome.pdf">File:Splicesome.pdf</a> to SVG using an online tool. But for some reason, the server-side PNG rendering is not working properly. Some colors are not being shown. But if I view the original SVG version, I see the SVG is same as the PDF. Only the PNGs are not being rendered properly. Then I tried to convert the PDF file to SVG using the tool you recommended. But it converted all texts to paths and the SVG is enormous. Could you take a look? The SVG is <a href="/wiki/File:Splicesome.svg" title="File:Splicesome.svg">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoKalliauer#c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-28T10:04:00.000Z-File:Splicesome.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 28 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masumrezarock100-2019-10-28T10:04:00.000Z-File:Splicesome.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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