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As far as I know, 100% votes have been counted and an official distribution of the seats has been released on the Electoral Commission webpage, that is the reason why the page of the elections has been updated. Apart from the fact that since there's a unique method for computing the seats distribution I doubt there'll be changes, or at least significative ones, why shouldn't we conisder the results published by the electoral commission as official and definitive? I mean, I'm using the same convention that is used in all the other cases: 100% results released --> good, we have definitive results and we can update the pages.--<a href="/wiki/User:Fm3dici97" title="User:Fm3dici97">Fm3dici97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fm3dici97" title="User talk:Fm3dici97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Volt_Netherlands#c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z-2021_results" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z-2021_results"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z","author":"Fm3dici97","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z-2021_results","replies":["c-\u00c6toms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z-2021_results"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Fm3dici97" title="User:Fm3dici97">Fm3dici97</a>:</span> The results are preliminary until the Electoral Council has published the official results, which it will do tomorrow. I agree with you that it's not likely that the seat allocation will be any different, so that's not the reason why I reverted your edit. The problem here is that you're stating in the infobox that Volt currently has 3 seats in the House of Representatives. The new House of Representatives will be installed on 31 March, so Volt does not have seats in the House of Representatives yet. Pretending that it already has 3 seats is inaccurate and misleading. ― <a href="/wiki/User:%C3%86toms" title="User:Ætoms"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:Black">Æ<b>toms</b></span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C3%86toms" title="User talk:Ætoms"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:Black">[<i>talk</i>]</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Volt_Netherlands#c-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z","author":"\u00c6toms","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u00c6toms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z-\u00c6toms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z-Fm3dici97-2021-03-25T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:%C3%86toms" title="User:Ætoms"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z"></span>Ætoms</a> ok, thank you for the clarification. I'm sorry for having misinterpreted your notes. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Fm3dici97" title="User:Fm3dici97">Fm3dici97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fm3dici97#top" title="User talk:Fm3dici97">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fm3dici97" title="Special:Contributions/Fm3dici97">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Volt_Netherlands#c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z-Ætoms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z","author":"Fm3dici97","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fm3dici97-2021-03-26T11:27:00.000Z-\u00c6toms-2021-03-25T15:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Main_article-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Main article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Main article&quot;}--><h2 id="Main_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Main_article-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Main_article-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z"></span>Main article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Main_article-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Volt_Netherlands&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Main article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Main_article-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article","timestamp":"2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Main_article-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Main article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Main article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article"></span>Wouldn't it make more sense for now to simply expand the <a href="/wiki/Volt_Europa" title="Volt Europa">main article on Volt</a>? Just having an article for the Dutch Volt chapter but none for the dozens other chapters looks rather incoherent on Wikipedia right now. <a href="/wiki/User:Dracona94" title="User:Dracona94">Dracona94</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dracona94" title="User talk:Dracona94">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Volt_Netherlands#c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z","author":"Dracona94","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dracona94-2021-03-27T21:04:00.000Z-Main_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-\u00c6toms-20221210234200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article-20221210234200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-\u00c6toms-20221210234200-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Notification of discussion involving this article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Notification of discussion involving this article&quot;}--><h2 id="Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article-20221210234200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article-20221210234200"></span>Notification of discussion involving this article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article-20221210234200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Volt_Netherlands&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Notification of discussion involving this article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\u00c6toms-20221210234200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article-20221210234200","replies":["c-\u00c6toms-20221210234200-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-\u00c6toms-20221210234200-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article","timestamp":"20221210234200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-\u00c6toms-20221210234200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article-20221210234200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-\u00c6toms-20221210234200-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Notification of discussion involving this article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Notification of discussion involving this article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ætoms-20221210234200-Notification_of_discussion_involving_this_article"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics/Political_parties" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Political parties">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Political parties</a> regarding the inclusion of the party flag in the infobox of this article. The thread is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics/Political_parties#Party_flags_in_infoboxes" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Political parties">Party flags in infoboxes</a>. 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