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href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Namespaces" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Namespaces">Help:Namespaces</a><span style="display:none"><a href="/wiki/Help:Namespaces" title="Help:Namespaces"> </a></span>). כמו כל דף ויקי, ניתן לערוך אותו, לקשר אליו, ולצפות בהיסטוריית העריכות שלו. </p><p><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">For new beginners, talk pages may be confusing.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Fortunately, some extensions are used to enhance talk pages.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">The <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools" title="Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools">DiscussionTools</a><span style="display:none"><a href="/wiki/Extension:DiscussionTools" title="Extension:DiscussionTools"> </a></span> extension can make it easier to create and reply talk pages, and automatically sign your comments.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><a 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<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Default_configuration_for_Wikimedia_wikis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Default_configuration_for_Wikimedia_wikis-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Default_configuration_for_Wikimedia_wikis-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span>Default configuration for Wikimedia wikis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Default_configuration_for_Wikimedia_wikis-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span></h3></div> </div> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png/220px-Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="84" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png/330px-Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png/440px-Reply_tool_version_2b_screenshot.png 2x" data-file-width="1123" data-file-height="428"/></a><figcaption><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Screenshot of the default talk pages experience</span></figcaption></figure> <p><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Wikimedia wikis use <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools">discussion tools</a><span style="display:none"><a href="/wiki/Help:DiscussionTools" title="Help:DiscussionTools"> </a></span> as a default feature for talk pages.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">This tool allows users to start a topic and respond to comments in both visual and wikitext editing modes.</span> </p><p><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Pages in the <b>main</b> namespace have the prefix <code>Talk:</code> added at the beginning of its talk page title.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">For example, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Download" title="Talk:Download">Talk:Download</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Hosting_services" title="Talk:Hosting services">Talk:Hosting services</a>, etc.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">While pages in other namespaces start with the name of the namespace, then <code>Talk:</code>, before the pages title name.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">For example, <a href="/wiki/User:Network-charles" title="User:Network-charles">User:Network-charles</a> becomes <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Network-charles" title="User talk:Network-charles">User talk:Network-charles</a>, <a href="/wiki/Project:Sandbox" title="Project:Sandbox">Project:Sandbox</a> becomes <a href="/wiki/Project_talk:Sandbox" title="Project talk:Sandbox">Project talk:Sandbox</a>, etc.</span> </p><p><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Add a new topic by going to the discussion page and clicking on the box saying "התחלת נושא חדש".</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">If the talk page is empty, an "הוספת נושא" button at the top right corner of the page is used to create a topic.</span> </p> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>Reply to a comment by clicking on "תגובה" after the comment. </p> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>When adding a new topic, or responding to a given message, you can switch between "visual" and "wikitext" modes. </p> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>This tool automatically signs your messages. </p> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>You can also edit the wikitext of the page, as described below. </p> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="When_using_wikitext_on_talk_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-When_using_wikitext_on_talk_pages-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-When_using_wikitext_on_talk_pages-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span>When using wikitext on talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-When_using_wikitext_on_talk_pages-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span></h3></div> </div> <p>קיום דיונים בוויקי לא-מובנה ירגיש בהתחלה מוזר. זה עוזר אם כולם מצייתים לכמה כללים פשוטים: </p> <div class="mw-translate-fuzzy"> <ul><li>תמיד תחתום אחרי הערותיך. השתמש בתחביר הוויקי של ארבע טילדות ״<code>~~~~</code>״ (או כפתור החתימה שבסרגל הכלים מעל לתיבת הטקסט). למידע נוסף ראה <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Signatures" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Signatures">Help:חתימות</a><span style="display:none"><a href="/wiki/Help:Signatures" title="Help:Signatures"> </a></span>.</li></ul> </div> <div class="mw-translate-fuzzy"> <ul><li>התחל דיון חדש עם <code>==כותרת ברמה 2==</code> בתחתית הדף (או השתמש בטאב ״$addsection״).</li></ul> </div> <div class="mw-translate-fuzzy"> <ul><li>הזח תגובות באמצעות נקודותיים (<code>:</code>) בתחילת השורה.</li></ul> </div> <p><span id="Example"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="דוגמה" data-mw-thread-id="h-דוגמה-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"><span id=".D7.93.D7.95.D7.92.D7.9E.D7.94"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-דוגמה-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span>דוגמה<span data-mw-comment-end="h-דוגמה-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span></h3></div> <p>הנה דיון לדוגמה, שמקיים את מוסכמות דף השיחה: </p> <table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr> <th style="width:50%">קוד ויקי </th> <th style="width:50%">דף שיחה מתוצג </th></tr> <tr> <td><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-moin mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="gh">==</span> מרק <span class="gh">==</span> איך המרק? --<span class="k">[[User:Example|בוב]]</span> 18:07, 26 באוגוסט 1991 (UTC) : הוא נהדר<span class="k">!</span>! --<span class="k">[[משתמש:דוגמה|סיימון]]</span> 11:21, 28 באוגוסט 1991 (UTC) <span class="c">::</span> הכנתי אותו בעצמי! -- <span class="k">[[משתמש:דוגמה|בוב]]</span> 14:11, 3 בספטמבר 1991 (UTC) אני חושבת שדיון המרק צריך לעבור ל<span class="k">[[דף שיחה:מרק]]</span>.. -- <span class="k">[[משתמש:דוגמה|ליסה]]</span> 21:55, 3 בספטמבר 1991 (UTC) </pre></div> </td> <td> <div style="border-bottom:1px solid rgb(162,169,177)"><span style="font-family:&quot;Noto Sans Meetei Mayek&quot;; font-size:1.5em; margin-top:1em">== מרק ==</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="#Example">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>איך המרק? --<a href="/wiki/User:Example" title="User:Example">בוב</a> 18:07, 26 באוגוסט 1991 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>הוא נהדר!! --<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:%D7%93%D7%95%D7%92%D7%9E%D7%94&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="משתמש:דוגמה (page does not exist)">סיימון</a> 11:21, 28 באוגוסט 1991 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>הכנתי אותו בעצמי! -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:%D7%93%D7%95%D7%92%D7%9E%D7%94&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="משתמש:דוגמה (page does not exist)">בוב</a> 14:11, 3 בספטמבר 1991 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-translate-fuzzy"> <p>אני חושבת שדיון המרק צריך לעבור ל<a href="/w/index.php?title=%D7%93%D7%A3_%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%A7&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="דף שיחה:מרק (page does not exist)">דף שיחה:מרק</a>.. -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:%D7%93%D7%95%D7%92%D7%9E%D7%94&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="משתמש:דוגמה (page does not exist)">ליסה</a> 21:55, 3 בספטמבר 1991 (UTC) </p> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="When_using_talk_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-When_using_talk_pages-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-When_using_talk_pages-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span>When using talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-When_using_talk_pages-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span></h3></div> </div> <ul><li><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">On a talk page, when contributors are discussing and mention "this page", they usually mean the main page it's connected to.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">If they mean the talk page itself, they'll say "this talk page" instead.</span></li> <li><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Always refer to the current page name when debating its title or discussing merging it with another page.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">This prevents ambiguity when the page is renamed (moved), as references to "this page name" would otherwise be unclear.</span></li> <li><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Spamming, which involves sending lots of similar messages to multiple users' talk pages to ask for something is not recommended.</span></li></ul> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Alternate_conventions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Alternate_conventions-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Alternate_conventions-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span>Alternate conventions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Alternate_conventions-מוסכמות_עריכה_בדפי_שיחה"></span></h3></div> </div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r6853958">.mw-parser-output .tpl-tracked{background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#EAECF0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid #72777D;border-radius:2px;font-size:85%;margin-bottom:1em;padding:0.5em;text-align:center;width:12em}.mw-parser-output .tpl-tracked.float-left{float:left;clear:left;margin-right:1em}.mw-parser-output .tpl-tracked.float-right{float:right;clear:right;margin-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .tpl-tracked .status{color:black;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tpl-tracked .status.resolved{color:green}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tpl-tracked .status:not(.resolved){color:white}}</style><div class="tpl-tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate float-left">במעקב ב־<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230683" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T230683"><span class="trakfab-T230683">משימה T230683</span></a></b><br/><span class="status"></span></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>We are aware that this most widespread convention is problematic for many reasons: </p> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <ul><li>It generates invalid HTML structure by appropriation of the definition-list syntax;</li></ul> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <ul><li>It is fragile against table insertions;</li></ul> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <ul><li>There are no real paragraphs.</li></ul> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>Some wikis are known to use <code>*</code> instead for the first problem mentioned above. Follow your local rules. </p> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>To avoid breaking complex formatting when replying, match what the comment you are replying to uses to indent, prepending one additional <code>:</code> or <code>*</code>. </p> </div> <p><span id="Editing_discussions"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="עריכת_דיונים" data-mw-thread-id="h-עריכת_דיונים"><span id=".D7.A2.D7.A8.D7.99.D7.9B.D7.AA_.D7.93.D7.99.D7.95.D7.A0.D7.99.D7.9D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-עריכת_דיונים"></span>עריכת דיונים<span data-mw-comment-end="h-עריכת_דיונים"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u05e2\u05e8\u05d9\u05db\u05ea_\u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>עריכת דיונים בוויקי לא מובנה תרגיש בהתחלה מוזר. יש בכך כמה ייתרונות על הפורמט הסטנדרטי של פורום, אך זה עלול להפוך לבלגאן. כמו בדפי ויקי אחרים - כל אחד יכול לעזור עם סידור של דיונים, להכפיף למוסכמות העריכה, למשל להוסיף חתימות וכותרות היכן שהן חסרות. </p><p>ברור, שיש לנו גם את ההזדמנות לערוך את ההערות של אנשים אחרים. זה בדרך כלל לא לעיניין לערוך את מילותיו של מישהו אחר. (עדיף להשאיר רק את ההערה שלך עם התיקונים שלך). אך זה יכול להיות קביל ל ... </p> <dl><dt>לערוך כותרות של דיונים</dt> <dd>לשנות ניסוח או להוסיף מילים לכותרות של דיונים, כדי לשפר את כותרת הדיון. שים לב שכותרות טובות נעשות חשובות כאשר מספר דיונים מתחילים למלא את הדף.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-translate-fuzzy"> <dl><dt>להזיז דיונים לדף אחר</dt> <dd>אם דיונים נמצאים במקום לא נכון בוויקי, ועדיף לקשר אותם לדף שיחה אחר, אז אתה יכול פשוט להזיז את הדיון עם ״העתק הדבק״. זה עלול להיות מבלבל עבור אנשים שמוסיפים הודעות, אך זה יכול להיות חשוב כדי לשמור על דברים מסודרים ונקיים. אתה יכול להשאיר את הדיון במקום הלא נכון לכמה ימים / שבועות לפני שאתה מסדר אותו. אתה יכול להשאיר קישור מאחור שמסביר שהדיון עבר, או אם לא, אתה צריך להשאיר קישור לסיכום העריכה.</dd></dl> </div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <dl><dd>If discussions are put in the wrong place on the wiki, and are better associated with different talk pages, then you could just move the discussion by cut &amp; paste.</dd></dl> </div> <p><span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">This is potentially confusing for the people posting, but it can be important for keeping things tidy.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">You could leave the discussion in the wrong place for a few days/weeks of grace before tidying it.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">You could leave a link behind explaining that a discussion was moved, or if not, you should link within the edit summary.</span> </p><dl><dt>למחוק דיונים מיושנים</dt> <dd>דיונים עלולים לעיתים קרובות להשאר בדף השיחה הרבה אחרי שהעיניין כבר לא רלוונטי. זה בדרך כלל רעיון טוב לענות ע״י ״אני חושב שהעיניין הסתדר״, אך במוקדם או במאוחר מגיע הזמן פשוט להעיף את הדיונים הישנים (הם נשמרים כמובן בהיסטוריית השינויים).</dd></dl> <dl><dt>לפצל הודעה למספר דיונים</dt> <dd>זה יכול להיות יאה לעשות זאת אם מישהו העלה מספר נקודות שצריכות להיענות בנפרד. עם זאת, יש לכבד את מילותיהם של אנשים אחרים. האם ההודעה שלהם עדיין הגיונית אם היא מחולקת?</dd></dl> <p><span id="Building_articles_-_Discussing_articles"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="בניית_מאמרים_-_דיון_על_מאמרים" data-mw-thread-id="h-בניית_מאמרים_-_דיון_על_מאמרים"><span id=".D7.91.D7.A0.D7.99.D7.99.D7.AA_.D7.9E.D7.90.D7.9E.D7.A8.D7.99.D7.9D_-_.D7.93.D7.99.D7.95.D7.9F_.D7.A2.D7.9C_.D7.9E.D7.90.D7.9E.D7.A8.D7.99.D7.9D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-בניית_מאמרים_-_דיון_על_מאמרים"></span>בניית מאמרים - דיון על מאמרים<span data-mw-comment-end="h-בניית_מאמרים_-_דיון_על_מאמרים"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u05d1\u05e0\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea_\u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd_-_\u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05df_\u05e2\u05dc_\u05de\u05d0\u05de\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd","replies":[]}}--></div> <p><span class="mw-translate-fuzzy">בדרך כלל עדיף להשאר מרוכזים במשימת הבנייה של דף ויקי, ולהשתמש בדפי שיחה רק כדי לתמוך בתהליך הזה. נושא השיחה אמור בכלליות להתנהל סביב מה שצריך להיעשות כדי לשפר את המאמר. זכור שעריכת המאמר עצמו היא לעיתים קרובות דרך יותר אפקטיבית לתקשר. זה יכול להיות קשה יותר, ידרוש ממך לאזן את הסתכלותך לצד זו של אחרים, אך זה גם יכול להיות מתגמל יותר. כך הקהילה של עורכי ויקי תתקדם. לעיתים זה ירגיש טבעי יותר להתחיל בדיון סוער על דף שיחה (או למעשה בכל ערוץ תקשורת אחר) אך למעשה דף הוויקי עצמו יכול להוות אמצעי רב עוצמה כדי להגיע לעמק השווה. חשוב כיצד אתה מתאר את שני צידי הוויכוח (למשל, מונה ייתרונות וחסרונות) וייתכן ותמצא שהדיון מתאדה.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">The topic of conversation should generally revolve around what needs to be done to make the associated article better.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Remember that editing the article itself is often a more effective means of communicating.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">It can be more difficult, requiring you to balance your views alongside those of others, but it can also be more rewarding.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">This is how the community of wiki editors will make progress.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Often it will feel more natural to engage in a heated debate on a talk page (or indeed any other contact channel) but in fact, the wiki article itself can offer a powerful means of reaching middle-ground.</span> <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Think about how to portray both sides of the argument (e.g., listing advantages and disadvantages) and you may find the debate evaporates.</span> </p><p><span id="User_talk_pages"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="דפי_שיחה_של_משתמשים" data-mw-thread-id="h-דפי_שיחה_של_משתמשים"><span id=".D7.93.D7.A4.D7.99_.D7.A9.D7.99.D7.97.D7.94_.D7.A9.D7.9C_.D7.9E.D7.A9.D7.AA.D7.9E.D7.A9.D7.99.D7.9D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-דפי_שיחה_של_משתמשים"></span>דפי שיחה של משתמשים<span data-mw-comment-end="h-דפי_שיחה_של_משתמשים"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9_\u05e9\u05d9\u05d7\u05d4_\u05e9\u05dc_\u05de\u05e9\u05ea\u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>"User talk דף" הוא דף שיחה שמקושר ל"User דף" של מישהו (ראה <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:User_page" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:User page">Help:דף המשתמש</a><span style="display:none"><a href="/wiki/Help:User_page" title="Help:User page"> </a></span>). זהו מקום להשאיר הודעות למשתמש ויקי מסוים. </p><p>זה יכול לשמש כמעין מערכת הודעות. משתמשים מקבלים את ההודעה הקבועה הבאה כשהודעות חדשות הושארו בשבילם בדף השיחה: </p> <div class="usermessage plainlinks">יש לך <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:User&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:User (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#36c">הודעה חדשה</span></a> (<a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:User&amp;diff=cur"><span style="color:#36c">שינוי אחרון</span></a>).</div> <p>ההודעה תמשיך להופיע על כל הדפים עד אשר משתמשים יבקרו בדף השיחה שלהם. </p><p>הם יכולים להיות מכותבים במייל גם כן, אם כי לא תמיד ניתן לסמוך על כך (הואיל והתראות במייל צריכות להיות מופעלות ע״י כך שמסופקת כתובת מייל תקפה, ולחיצה על לינק לאישור). אם אתה לא מקבל תגובה להודעה שלך בדף השיחה, נסה לחפש פרטי קשר אחרים שהם סיפקו בדף המשתמש שלהם. </p><p>שים לב שהשיחות אינן פרטיות, ואחרים יכולים להצטרף לדיון. </p><p><br/> </p> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="See_also" data-mw-thread-id="h-See_also"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-See_also"></span>See also<span data-mw-comment-end="h-See_also"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-See_also","replies":[]}}--></div> </div> <ul><li><a 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