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On behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Birthday Committee</a>, I'd like to wish you a very happy 6th anniversary of the day you made <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/ComplexRational&amp;dir=prev&amp;limit=1">your first edit</a> and became a Wikipedian! <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028053200","author":"Sdkb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary"></span></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f389.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Party popper emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028053200","author":"Sdkb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary-1","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241028124600-Sdkb-20241028053200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241028053200-6-year_editaversary-1"></span> </p><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241028124600-Sdkb-20241028053200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb">Sdkb</a>:</span> Thank you! Here's to another trip around the Sun! <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241028124600-Sdkb-20241028053200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241028124600-Sdkb-20241028053200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028124600","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241028124600-Sdkb-20241028053200","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241028124600-Sdkb-20241028053200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20241028214200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!&quot;,&quot;c-ComplexRational-20241028225300-Happy_First_Edit_Day!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Happy First Edit Day!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Happy First Edit Day!&quot;}--><h2 id="Happy_First_Edit_Day!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20241028214200"><span id="Happy_First_Edit_Day.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20241028214200"></span>Happy First Edit Day!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20241028214200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ComplexRational&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Happy First Edit Day!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20241028214200","replies":["c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!","c-ComplexRational-20241028225300-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241028225300-Happy_First_Edit_Day!","timestamp":"20241028225300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20241028214200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!&quot;,&quot;c-ComplexRational-20241028225300-Happy_First_Edit_Day!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Happy First Edit Day!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Happy First Edit Day!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238436933"><table class="box-First_Edit_Day plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation" style="border: 2px solid CornflowerBlue; background: linear-gradient(300deg, AliceBlue, LavenderBlush 30%, LavenderBlush 70%, AliceBlue);"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Calendar emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="padding: 0.75em; text-align:center;"><big><b>Happy First Edit Day!</b></big><br/>Hi ComplexRational! On behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Birthday Committee</a>, I'd like to wish you a very happy sixth anniversary of the day you made <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/ComplexRational&amp;dir=prev&amp;limit=1">your first edit</a> and became a Wikipedian! <a href="/wiki/User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">DaniloDaysOfOurLives</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User talk:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241028214200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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id="c-Double_sharp-20241101042600-Silicon-45_and_46_discovered"></span>New paper.</a> Also of interest to <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a>. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241101042600-Silicon-45_and_46_discovered" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241101042600-Silicon-45_and_46_discovered"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Fortunately this one is open-access. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241101135000-Double_sharp-20241101042600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241101135000-Double_sharp-20241101042600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101135000","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241101135000-Double_sharp-20241101042600","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241101135000-Double_sharp-20241101042600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300-Double_sharp-20241101042600"></span>Another exciting discovery, thanks! It seems like all the recent discoveries are light nuclides. For the heavier nuclides, it seems like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://journals.aps.org/prc/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevC.109.014622">light isotopes perform better in synthesizing Uue</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300-Double_sharp-20241101042600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300-Double_sharp-20241101042600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102034900-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102034900-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102034900","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102034900-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300","replies":["c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200-Double_sharp-20241102034900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102034900-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241101135300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200-Double_sharp-20241102034900"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon 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.citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1142%2FS0218301320500536">10.1142/S0218301320500536</a> predicts among <sup>284-308</sup>Uue, <sup>296,300,302</sup>Uue have a half-life of >100 μs. (<sup>297,308</sup>Uue may reach this bar or not depends on prediction used) Only <sup>296</sup>Uue is a reasonable long-lived isotope to be synthesized among them. <sup>297</sup>Uue requires either 2n channel, <sup>250</sup>Cm, or einsteinium, while even heavier isotopes are more unlikely to produce.</dd> <dd>On the other hand, I found lighter isotopes <sup>292,293</sup>Uue interesting because the whole decay chain is unknown. However, their predicted half-lives of ~30 μs is troublesome. <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200-Double_sharp-20241102034900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200-Double_sharp-20241102034900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102082200","author":"Nucleus hydro elemon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200-Double_sharp-20241102034900","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241102120600-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200-Double_sharp-20241102034900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102120600-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200"></span>If only <sup>241</sup>Am+<sup>48</sup>Ca and <sup>231</sup>Pa+<sup>48</sup>Ca would get studied. :( <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102120600-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102120600-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102120600","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102120600-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241102163200-Double_sharp-20241102120600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102120600-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241102082200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241102163200-Double_sharp-20241102120600"></span>It does indeed seem that even-<i>Z</i> SHEs have been getting much of the attention lately. Meanwhile, the gap between cold and hot fusion persists for odd-<i>Z</i> elements, and Mt and Rg each have <i>one</i> isotope that has been directly synthesized... decades ago. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241102163200-Double_sharp-20241102120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241102163200-Double_sharp-20241102120600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102163200","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241102163200-Double_sharp-20241102120600","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241102163600-ComplexRational-20241102163200","c-Double_sharp-20241102164300-ComplexRational-20241102163200"],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241102163200-Double_sharp-20241102120600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102163600-ComplexRational-20241102163200"></span>Since you mention <sup>266</sup>Mt from 1982: Peter Armbruster and Gottfried Münzenberg both died this year. :( (Sigurd Hofmann died in 2022.) <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102163600-ComplexRational-20241102163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102163600-ComplexRational-20241102163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102163600","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102163600-ComplexRational-20241102163200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102163600-ComplexRational-20241102163200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102164300-ComplexRational-20241102163200"></span>I guess the even-<i>Z</i> gap gets studied more because it looks like 120 is going to be easier than 119. Maybe once 120 is discovered, we'll see a renaissance of interest in the odd ones. <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102164300-ComplexRational-20241102163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102164300-ComplexRational-20241102163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102164300","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102164300-ComplexRational-20241102163200","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241111020600-Double_sharp-20241102164300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102164300-ComplexRational-20241102163200"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241111020600-Double_sharp-20241102164300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a>:</span> I stumbled upon <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://conferences.lbl.gov/event/301/attachments/2703/1127/06_Rod_search.pdf">this</a>, which mentions a proposed search for <sup>276</sup>Rg and <sup>272</sup>Mt (along with <sup>250</sup>Lr and <sup>254</sup>Db) – though neither a reaction nor an experimental timeframe are described. If year 1 was 2020, we're in year 5, and I haven't found anything more recent, so I wonder what became of this.</dd> <dd>There was also an <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://indico.frib.msu.edu/event/76/overview">SHE-related conference earlier this year</a> at <a href="/wiki/FRIB" class="mw-redirect" title="FRIB">FRIB</a>, though I don't know if the conference proceedings have been uploaded anywhere. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241111020600-Double_sharp-20241102164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241111020600-Double_sharp-20241102164300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111020600","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241111020600-Double_sharp-20241102164300","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241111042900-ComplexRational-20241111020600"],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241111020600-Double_sharp-20241102164300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241111042900-ComplexRational-20241111020600"></span>Well, the <sup>50</sup>Ti agenda happened quite similarly to the plan of those slides, with the <sup>244</sup>Pu+<sup>50</sup>Ti reaction having succeeded. Perhaps the other things happened, or perhaps it was decided that going for 120 was more exciting. Yeah, that's kind of a non-answer. ;) <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241111042900-ComplexRational-20241111020600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241111042900-ComplexRational-20241111020600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111042900","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241111042900-ComplexRational-20241111020600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241111042900-ComplexRational-20241111020600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Double_sharp-20241102151900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-242Pu+50Ti-20241102151900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti&quot;,&quot;c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;242Pu+50Ti&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;242Pu+50Ti&quot;}--><h2 id="242Pu+50Ti" data-mw-thread-id="h-242Pu+50Ti-20241102151900"><span id="242Pu.2B50Ti"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-242Pu+50Ti-20241102151900"></span><sup>242</sup>Pu+<sup>50</sup>Ti<span data-mw-comment-end="h-242Pu+50Ti-20241102151900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ComplexRational&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: 242Pu+50Ti"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Double_sharp-20241102151900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-242Pu+50Ti-20241102151900","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti","c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400","timestamp":"20241103150800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__15__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Double_sharp-20241102151900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-242Pu+50Ti-20241102151900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti&quot;,&quot;c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;242Pu+50Ti&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;242Pu+50Ti&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://indico.jinr.ru/event/4343/contributions/28663/attachments/20748/36083/U%20+%20Cr%20AYSS%202024.pptx"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti"></span>New presentation from JINR!</a> With <sup>289</sup>Lv! And <sup>280</sup>Cn! And a p2n channel leading to <sup>289</sup>Mc!! <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102151900","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241102152000-Double_sharp-20241102151900","c-129.104.65.2-20241103000600-Double_sharp-20241102151900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102151900-242Pu+50Ti"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102152000-Double_sharp-20241102151900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a>:</span> Since you just noted that lately it had mostly been light nuclides getting discovered! :D <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102152000-Double_sharp-20241102151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102152000-Double_sharp-20241102151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102152000","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102152000-Double_sharp-20241102151900","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241102153400-Double_sharp-20241102152000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102152000-Double_sharp-20241102151900"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241102153400-Double_sharp-20241102152000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a>:</span> Thanks for sharing the exciting news! I suppose the new isotopes could be added, but I'm not sure that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CALC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CALC">WP:CALC</a> permits computing half-lives in the absence of aggregated data and complete analysis... so a more detailed update will likely have to wait. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241102153400-Double_sharp-20241102152000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241102153400-Double_sharp-20241102152000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102153400","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241102153400-Double_sharp-20241102152000","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241102153400-ComplexRational-20241102153400","c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065200-ComplexRational-20241102153400"],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241102153400-Double_sharp-20241102152000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102153400-ComplexRational-20241102153400"></span>Yeah, I've confined myself to just adding their existence. (Well, I guess their colour in the <a href="/wiki/Table_of_nuclides" title="Table of nuclides">Table of nuclides</a> can be handwaved as obvious; computing the detailed half-life is too much, but it's too obvious that it must be &lt;1 d. :D) <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102153400-ComplexRational-20241102153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102153400-ComplexRational-20241102153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102153400","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102153400-ComplexRational-20241102153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102153400-ComplexRational-20241102153400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065200-ComplexRational-20241102153400"></span>As the decay chain of <sup>289</sup>Lv passes through <sup>269</sup>Sg, its half-life must be revised. Perhaps the most stable isotope of Sg will become <sup>269</sup>Sg again. <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065200-ComplexRational-20241102153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065200-ComplexRational-20241102153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103065200","author":"Nucleus hydro elemon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065200-ComplexRational-20241102153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065200-ComplexRational-20241102153400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.104.65.2-20241103000600-Double_sharp-20241102151900"></span>Wow, one more nuclide with <i>Z</i>:<i>N</i> = 2:3 found, whoopee! Discovering <sup>295</sup>Og in the future would complete this huge family from <sup>5</sup>He to <sup>295</sup>Og, spanning from the beginning to the end of the periodic table. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.104.65.2" title="Special:Contributions/129.104.65.2">129.104.65.2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:129.104.65.2" title="User talk:129.104.65.2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-129.104.65.2-20241103000600-Double_sharp-20241102151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.104.65.2-20241103000600-Double_sharp-20241102151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103000600","author":"129.104.65.2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-129.104.65.2-20241103000600-Double_sharp-20241102151900","replies":["c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900-129.104.65.2-20241103000600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.104.65.2-20241103000600-Double_sharp-20241102151900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900-129.104.65.2-20241103000600"></span>I'm looking forward to synthesis of <sup>295,296</sup>Og with <sup>250,251,252</sup>Cf + <sup>48</sup>Ca and <sup>248</sup>Cm + <sup>50</sup>Ti. Besides that, I'm also hoping for the discovery of <sup>293</sup>Og to clean up Ninov's mess completely. <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900-129.104.65.2-20241103000600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900-129.104.65.2-20241103000600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103065900","author":"Nucleus hydro elemon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900-129.104.65.2-20241103000600","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241103070300-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900-129.104.65.2-20241103000600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241103070300-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a>:</span> You know what else I want? A sustained search for the pxn channel from <sup>248</sup>Cm+<sup>48</sup>Ca to get heavier Mc isotopes (to see if they really electron-capture their way to the middle of the island), plus sustained looks at <sup>242</sup>Cm+<sup>48</sup>Ca to get even lighter Lv isotopes. And the odd-Z cases too, but you already know that. I guess the dream of using <sup>250</sup>Cm will have to languish in limbo for a long while. :)</dd> <dd>I guess a sustained <sup>249</sup>Cf+<sup>48</sup>Ca campaign might well actually find <sup>293</sup>Og in the 4n channel. <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241103070300-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241103070300-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103070300","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241103070300-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900","replies":["c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600-Double_sharp-20241103070300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241103070300-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103065900"></span> <dl><dd><sup><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600-Double_sharp-20241103070300"></span>248</sup>Cm(<sup>48</sup>Ca,p3n)<sup>292</sup>Mc has extremely bad cross section (12 fb).<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> I found nothing about <sup>242</sup>Cm+<sup>48</sup>Ca, probably because <sup>242</sup>Cm is too unstable, even more unstable than <sup>249</sup>Bk. I think <sup>238-240</sup>Pu+<sup>50</sup>Ti makes more sense, but there exists only a prediction 43 years ago, which states <sup>238</sup>Pu(<sup>48</sup>Ca,4n)<sup>284</sup>Lv has a cross section of a few pb.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></dd> <dd>I have a complicated feeling towards nuclides at the island of stability, especially if they have a half-life in centuries or millennia. After formed from the EC chain, the atom will outlive any SHE researcher, so no one can know its decay properties. It might be hard to detect the existence of this long-lived atom. I don't think chemistry can be done, as chemistry done in a single atom relies on its radioactive decay, which this long-lived atom will never do in a reasonable timeframe. <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600-Double_sharp-20241103070300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600-Double_sharp-20241103070300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103080600","author":"Nucleus hydro elemon","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600-Double_sharp-20241103070300","replies":["c-Double_sharp-20241103081100-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600","c-Double_sharp-20241103081400-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600-Double_sharp-20241103070300"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241103081100-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a>:</span> True, but I guess an ER that has no plausible SF event following it would be quite a sign that the island's been reached at least. And yeah, <sup>242</sup>Cm is perhaps a bit ambitious, but at least <sup>243</sup>Cm has a half-life of a few decades and will get us most of the way. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241103081100-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241103081100-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103081100","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241103081100-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600","replies":["c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103095900-Double_sharp-20241103081100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241103081100-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103095900-Double_sharp-20241103081100"></span>Found a prediction about <sup>243</sup>Cm+<sup>46,48</sup>Ca.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> It also predicts <sup>245</sup>Cm+<sup>46</sup>Ca, but this reaction is worse than <sup>243</sup>Cm+<sup>48</sup>Ca in all channels, so I ignored it. Cross sections are square bracketed and in pb. <ul><li><sup>243</sup>Cm(<sup>48</sup>Ca,3n)<sup>288</sup>Lv [1.53]</li> <li><sup>243</sup>Cm(<sup>48</sup>Ca,4n)<sup>287</sup>Lv [0.36]</li> <li><sup>243</sup>Cm(<sup>48</sup>Ca,5n)<sup>286</sup>Lv [0.29]</li> <li><sup>243</sup>Cm(<sup>46</sup>Ca,3n)<sup>286</sup>Lv [1.69]</li> <li><sup>243</sup>Cm(<sup>46</sup>Ca,4n)<sup>285</sup>Lv [0.27]</li> <li><sup>243</sup>Cm(<sup>46</sup>Ca,5n)<sup>284</sup>Lv [0.17]</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103095900-Double_sharp-20241103081100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103095900-Double_sharp-20241103081100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103095900","author":"Nucleus hydro elemon","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103095900-Double_sharp-20241103081100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103095900-Double_sharp-20241103081100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241103081400-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"></span>The funny thing is that <sup>244</sup>Pu+<sup>50</sup>Ti (<span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="6987440000000000000♠"></span>0.44<span style="margin-left:0.3em;"><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:85%;text-align:right;">+0.58<br/>−0.28</span></span> pb</span>) seems to have a larger cross-section than <sup>208</sup>Pb+<sup>70</sup>Zn (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://journals.jps.jp/doi/10.7566/JPSJ.82.024202"><span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="6986779999999999999♠"></span>0.078<span style="margin-left:0.3em;"><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:85%;text-align:right;">+0.179<br/>−0.065</span></span> pb</span></a>). If not for the serendipitous <sup>294</sup>Og atom produced in 2012 during a Ts campaign (when the <sup>249</sup>Bk target had significantly decayed), I wonder if it might've been tried last decade, as it would both confirm 118 by producing its daughter <sup>290</sup>Lv, and provide useful experience with <sup>50</sup>Ti back when people were already thinking about 119 and 120. Though looking at the trend, it seems distressingly plausible that current technology levels have simply made 119 and 120 go from "it's not gonna happen" to "sure, if you're willing to spend years and years like RIKEN did with 113"... <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241103081400-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241103081400-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103081400","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241103081400-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241103081400-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241103080600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400"></span>The source I added to <a href="/wiki/Moscovium" title="Moscovium">moscovium</a> also discusses αxn channels, and suggests they may be more favorable to produce heavier Mc isotopes from <sup>249</sup>Bk and <sup>48</sup>Ca. On the other side, some of the neutron deficient even–even isotopes may have very short SF half-lives (predicted by several sources and supported by observations of <sup>284</sup>Fl, <sup>282</sup>Cn, and now <sup>280</sup>Cn), so they may not be readily detectable even with cross sections within experimental detection limits. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241103150800","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241103150800-Double_sharp-20241103081400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti"></span>I'm kind of wondering how we should handle the successful pxn – it doesn't fit quite well with how the superheavy "isotopes of X" pages are currently handled. Well, what a happy problem to have! <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102155300","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241102160800-Double_sharp-20241102155300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241102155300-242Pu+50Ti"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241102160800-Double_sharp-20241102155300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a>:</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1254984648" title="Special:Diff/1254984648">And a happy problem to solve</a>! Time to update <a href="/wiki/Island_of_stability" title="Island of stability">island of stability</a> next while we await detailed results. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241102160800-Double_sharp-20241102155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241102160800-Double_sharp-20241102155300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102160800","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241102160800-Double_sharp-20241102155300","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241102160800-Double_sharp-20241102155300"></span></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFWuZhuLiYu2018" class="citation journal cs1">Wu, Zhi-Han; Zhu, Long; Li, Fan; Yu, Xiao-Bin; Su, Jun; Guo, Chen-Chen (2018-06-11). 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See p. 7: it alpha decays with a lower half-life limit of 1 ms. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Double_sharp-20241109080400-Plutonium-226" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-20241109080400-Plutonium-226"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241109080400","author":"Double sharp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Double_sharp-20241109080400-Plutonium-226","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Double_sharp-20241109080400","c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500-Double_sharp-20241109080400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-20241109080400-Plutonium-226"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Double_sharp-20241109080400"></span>Interesting :) Its predicted alpha half-life is 1.3 ms (<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1016%2Fj.physletb.2022.137569">10.1016/j.physletb.2022.137569</a>), which is consistent with the experimental half-life >1 ms. The prediction also predicts its double alpha half-life will be 537 ms. <dl><dd>Looking forward to the publication and additional discoveries. Also hoping that some of the missing or poorly-studied isotopes described in NUBASE2020 are the subject of future work. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Double_sharp-20241109080400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Double_sharp-20241109080400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111015700","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Double_sharp-20241109080400","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Double_sharp-20241109080400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500-Double_sharp-20241109080400"></span>By the way, <sup>222</sup>Rn is also listed in the list of nuclides predicted with shortest double alpha half-lives. With a predicted half-life of 3 years, this decay mode is observable. Unfortunately, I'm not sure is there a way to separate <sup>222</sup>Rn→<sup>218</sup>Po→<sup>214</sup>Pb and direct <sup>222</sup>Rn→<sup>214</sup>Pb. <a href="/wiki/User:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User:Nucleus hydro elemon">Nucleus hydro elemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nucleus_hydro_elemon" title="User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500-Double_sharp-20241109080400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500-Double_sharp-20241109080400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241109111500","author":"Nucleus hydro elemon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500-Double_sharp-20241109080400","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500","c-129.104.241.5-20241113231200-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500-Double_sharp-20241109080400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"></span>If I'm understanding correctly, there should be a measurable time delay if <sup>218</sup>Po is produced as an intermediate product, whereas double alpha decay would feature both alphas emitted simultaneously. I haven't read many articles about this, but I'd instead think it would be harder to distinguish double alpha decay from <sup>8</sup>Be cluster emission. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111015700","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241111015700-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.104.241.5-20241113231200-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"></span>According to the predictions, double alpha decays (if we have method to distinguish them from two separate alpha decays) of <sup>148</sup>Sm and <sup>152</sup>Gd are clearly observable! (Perhaps also <sup>150</sup>Gd and <sup>154</sup>Dy, if these two nuclides are available). <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.104.241.5" title="Special:Contributions/129.104.241.5">129.104.241.5</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:129.104.241.5&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:129.104.241.5 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-129.104.241.5-20241113231200-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.104.241.5-20241113231200-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113231200","author":"129.104.241.5","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-129.104.241.5-20241113231200-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.104.241.5-20241113231200-Nucleus_hydro_elemon-20241109111500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!-20241111153200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!&quot;}--><h2 id="November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!-20241111153200"><span id="November_22_.2B_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!-20241111153200"></span>November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!-20241111153200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ComplexRational&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!-20241111153200","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!","timestamp":"20241111153200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!-20241111153200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241111153200-November_22_+_26:_Free_Culture_Friday_and_Wikicurious_photo_event!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background: white; 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All are welcome! </p> <ul><li>Friday, November 22, 2024 <dl><dd><i>1:30 pm – 7:00 pm</i></dd> <dd>Prime Produce, 424 W 54th St</dd></dl></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <th colspan="2" style="font-size:150%; padding: .4em;">November 26: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:Wikicurious_-_Capturing_the_Moment" class="extiw" title="meta:Event:Wikicurious - Capturing the Moment">Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment</a> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: .6em;"> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Jefferson_market_crop.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Jefferson_market_crop.jpg/110px-Jefferson_market_crop.jpg" decoding="async" width="110" height="194" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Jefferson_market_crop.jpg/165px-Jefferson_market_crop.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Jefferson_market_crop.jpg/220px-Jefferson_market_crop.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1158" data-file-height="2043"/></a><figcaption>Jefferson Market Library</figcaption></figure> <p>You are also invited to <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:Wikicurious_-_Capturing_the_Moment" class="extiw" title="meta:Event:Wikicurious - Capturing the Moment">Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment</a></b>, the third event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series, at <a href="/wiki/Jefferson_Market_Library" title="Jefferson Market Library">Jefferson Market Library</a> on Tuesday, November 26, in collaboration with <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wikiportraits.org/">WikiPortraits</a> and <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCROWD_User_Group" class="extiw" title="meta:AfroCROWD User Group">AfroCROWD</a>. All are welcome to attend, especially those interested in <a href="/wiki/Photography" title="Photography">photography</a> or contributing to <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikimedia Commons">Wikimedia Commons</a>. We will explore the art of capturing the moment through photography and learn the basics of Wikimedia Commons, and (weather-permitting) we are also planning a photo walk, so bring your camera (or use your smartphone)! </p> <ul><li>Tuesday, November 26, 2024 <dl><dd><i>3:00 pm – 8:00 pm</i></dd> <dd>Jefferson Market Library, 425 6th Ave</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikicurious-capturing-the-moment-tickets-1074512217969">RSVP on Eventbrite</a> is <b>required</b> for event entry!</dd></dl></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>All attendees at Wikimedia NYC events are subject to the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_New_York_City/Code_of_Conduct" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikimedia New York City/Code of Conduct">Wikimedia NYC Code of Conduct</a>.</i> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><small>(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from <a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113001800","author":"BGerdemann (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cenderabird-20241116135400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Note-20241116135400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Note&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Note&quot;}--><h2 id="Note" data-mw-thread-id="h-Note-20241116135400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Note-20241116135400"></span>Note<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Note-20241116135400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ComplexRational&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Note"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cenderabird-20241116135400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Note-20241116135400","replies":["c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400","timestamp":"20241117034700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cenderabird-20241116135400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Note-20241116135400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Note&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Note&quot;}--></div></div></div> <dl><dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Infotalks23&amp;redlink=1"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note"></span>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Infotalks23&amp;redlink=1</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Genuine_10&amp;redlink=1">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Genuine_10&amp;redlink=1</a></dd></dl> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bobanfasil">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bobanfasil</a> </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Indian_Derby#">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Indian_Derby#</a> </p><p>2 socks of blocked user "fasil" showed up... last link has personal style and more updates or deletions by native speakers welcome. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cenderabird&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cenderabird (page does not exist)">Cenderabird</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cenderabird" title="User talk:Cenderabird">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241116135400","author":"Cenderabird","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cenderabird-20241116135400-Note"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cenderabird&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cenderabird (page does not exist)">Cenderabird</a>:</span> It's not clear to me what you're asking. If this is a content-related issue, I encourage you to fix it yourself or discuss it on the article's talk page, and if you suspect a person is inappropriately using multiple accounts, please open a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPI">sockpuppet investigation</a>. Thanks, <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117034700","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241117034700-Cenderabird-20241116135400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-HertzDonuts-20241117210800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion-20241117210800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-HertzDonuts-20241117210800-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Forgot to include the redirect 1998 in California in redirects for discussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Forgot to include the redirect 1998 in California in redirects for discussion&quot;}--><h2 id="Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion-20241117210800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion-20241117210800"></span>Forgot to include the redirect <a href="/w/index.php?title=1998_in_California&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="1998 in California (page does not exist)">1998 in California</a> in redirects for discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion-20241117210800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ComplexRational&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Forgot to include the redirect 1998 in California in redirects for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HertzDonuts-20241117210800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion-20241117210800","replies":["c-HertzDonuts-20241117210800-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241117225000-HertzDonuts-20241117210800","timestamp":"20241117225000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-HertzDonuts-20241117210800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion-20241117210800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-HertzDonuts-20241117210800-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Forgot to include the redirect 1998 in California in redirects for discussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Forgot to include the redirect 1998 in California in redirects for discussion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HertzDonuts-20241117210800-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion"></span>At <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_3#1996_in_California" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 3">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 3#1996 in California</a> I accidentally skipped over <a href="/w/index.php?title=1998_in_California&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="1998 in California (page does not exist)">1998 in California</a> in the list, so it didn't get deleted with the others. Can you delete plz. <a href="/wiki/User:HertzDonuts" title="User:HertzDonuts">HertzDonuts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HertzDonuts" title="User talk:HertzDonuts">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-HertzDonuts-20241117210800-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HertzDonuts-20241117210800-Forgot_to_include_the_redirect_1998_in_California_in_redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If I see any unsourced math stubs, I will alert you. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearian" title="User:Bearian">Bearian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearian" title="User talk:Bearian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-Bearian-20241122225100-Wiki_NYC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearian-20241122225100-Wiki_NYC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122225100","author":"Bearian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bearian-20241122225100-Wiki_NYC","replies":["c-ComplexRational-20241122231400-Bearian-20241122225100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearian-20241122225100-Wiki_NYC"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ComplexRational-20241122231400-Bearian-20241122225100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bearian" title="User:Bearian">Bearian</a>:</span> Nice meeting you as well. Feel free to drop by here (although there are still some math articles I don't dare touch), and I look forward to seeing you at future meetups. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational"><b><span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span></b></a></sup>/<sub><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><b><span style="color:#000000">Rational</span></b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational#c-ComplexRational-20241122231400-Bearian-20241122225100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ComplexRational-20241122231400-Bearian-20241122225100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122231400","author":"ComplexRational","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ComplexRational-20241122231400-Bearian-20241122225100","replies":[],"displayName":"Complex"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ComplexRational-20241122231400-Bearian-20241122225100"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐7556f8b5dd‐bbb55 Cached time: 20241123201839 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, vary‐revision‐id, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.043 seconds CPU time usage: 0.426 seconds Real time usage: 0.505 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 3373/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 34445/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 6234/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 19/100 Expensive parser function count: 9/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 1/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 31060/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.205/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 6468234/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 403.562 1 -total 32.95% 132.983 1 Template:Talk_header 17.92% 72.328 1 Template:Reflist-talk 17.06% 68.838 1 Template:Reflist 14.02% 56.578 3 Template:Cite_journal 13.01% 52.484 9 Template:Th/abp 8.54% 34.479 2 Template:Doi 8.18% 32.993 1 Template:Troutme 8.06% 32.538 1 Template:Tooltip 7.89% 31.854 2 Template:Hlist --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:58903479-0!canonical and timestamp 20241123201838 and revision id 1259177612. 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