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The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo. </p><p><b>Improve key articles to Good article</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Portugal" title="Portugal">Portugal</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Lisbon" title="Lisbon">Lisbon</a></li></ul> <p><b>Improve</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Os_Lus%C3%ADadas" title="Os Lusíadas">Os Lusíadas</a></b></li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Portugal" title="Coat of arms of Portugal">Coat of arms of Portugal</a></b></li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Portugal_stubs" title="Category:Portugal stubs">More...</a></b></li></ul> <p><b>Review</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Category:History_of_Portugal" title="Category:History of Portugal">Category:History of Portugal</a></b>: lots to remove there</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Template:Regions_of_Portugal" title="Template:Regions of Portugal">Template:Regions of Portugal</a></b>: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are <b>not</b> the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are <b>not</b> statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).</li></ul> </td> <td style="vertical-align:top;"> <p><b>Requests</b> </p> <ul><li>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Other_categorization_schemes#Portugal" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles/Other categorization schemes">Requested articles</a></li></ul> <p><b>Assess</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Unassessed_Portugal_articles" title="Category:Unassessed Portugal articles">Help assessing articles.</a></li></ul> <p><b>Need images</b> </p> <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul> <p><b>Translate from <a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="pt:">Portuguese Wikipedia</a></b> </p> <ul><li 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The half probably just covers electricity (not total energy), ignoring e.g. heat and transport. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F" title="Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F">2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Madeira#c-2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F-20230212220100-Subject_renewable_energy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:8A0:6034:AC00:1CDB:DFC0:62DF:405F-20230212220100-Subject_renewable_energy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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WAS WRONG&quot;}--><h2 id="Previous_Coat_of_Arms_WAS_WRONG" data-mw-thread-id="h-Previous_Coat_of_Arms_WAS_WRONG-20230907205900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Previous_Coat_of_Arms_WAS_WRONG-20230907205900"></span>Previous Coat of Arms WAS WRONG<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Previous_Coat_of_Arms_WAS_WRONG-20230907205900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Madeira&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Previous Coat of Arms WAS WRONG"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Skunkcrew-20230907205900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Previous_Coat_of_Arms_WAS_WRONG-20230907205900","replies":["c-Skunkcrew-20230907205900-Previous_Coat_of_Arms_WAS_WRONG"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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madeira is not from portugal&quot;}--><h2 id="The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal-20240408135300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal-20240408135300"></span>The sound of the person saying madeira is not from portugal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal-20240408135300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Madeira&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: The sound of the person saying madeira is not from portugal"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-148.69.227.237-20240408135300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal-20240408135300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-148.69.227.237-20240408135300-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The sound of the person saying madeira is not from portugal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The sound of the person saying madeira is not from portugal&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-148.69.227.237-20240408135300-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal"></span>its not in pt pt <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/148.69.227.237" title="Special:Contributions/148.69.227.237">148.69.227.237</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:148.69.227.237&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:148.69.227.237 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Madeira#c-148.69.227.237-20240408135300-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-148.69.227.237-20240408135300-The_sound_of_the_person_saying_madeira_is_not_from_portugal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Barefoot_through_the_chollas-20240511145400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world.-20240511145400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Barefoot_through_the_chollas-20240511145400-wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;wolf spider [...] is considered the largest member of its family in the world.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;wolf spider [...] is considered the largest member of its family in the world.&quot;}--><h2 id="wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world." data-mw-thread-id="h-wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world.-20240511145400"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Barefoot_through_the_chollas-20240511145400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world.-20240511145400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Barefoot_through_the_chollas-20240511145400-wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;wolf spider [...] is considered the largest member of its family in the world.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;wolf spider [...] is considered the largest member of its family in the world.&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Barefoot_through_the_chollas-20240511145400-wolf_spider_[...]_is_considered_the_largest_member_of_its_family_in_the_world."></span>Two problems here: considered by whom (citation needed); 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