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page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ClueBot_III_archiving" data-mw-thread-id="h-ClueBot_III_archiving-20230910003000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ClueBot_III_archiving-20230910003000"></span>ClueBot III archiving<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ClueBot_III_archiving-20230910003000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EggRoll97-20230910003000-ClueBot_III_archiving"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Atop" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Atop">atop</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> I'm fairly convinced I've messed something up when I was trying to shorten the amount of archives I had, but I'm not sure what to do to get archiving back up. I've put the template on my talk page, made sure the index is correct (and actually links to the right talk page), and I can't find what it is. <a href="/wiki/User:EggRoll97" title="User:EggRoll97">EggRoll97</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EggRoll97" title="User talk:EggRoll97">talk</a>) </sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-EggRoll97-20230910003000-ClueBot_III_archiving" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EggRoll97-20230910003000-ClueBot_III_archiving"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EggRoll97-20230910003000-ClueBot_III_archiving"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Usernamekiran-20230911201500-EggRoll97-20230910003000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:EggRoll97" title="User:EggRoll97">EggRoll97</a>:</span> it seems to be working. —usernamekiran <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Usernamekiran" title="User talk:Usernamekiran">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Usernamekiran-20230911201500-EggRoll97-20230910003000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Usernamekiran-20230911201500-EggRoll97-20230910003000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Usernamekiran-20230911201500-EggRoll97-20230910003000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EggRoll97-20230912003700-Usernamekiran-20230911201500"></span>Looks good, seems like it just took a couple days to kick in. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:EggRoll97" title="User:EggRoll97">EggRoll97</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EggRoll97" title="User talk:EggRoll97">talk</a>) </sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-EggRoll97-20230912003700-Usernamekiran-20230911201500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EggRoll97-20230912003700-Usernamekiran-20230911201500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EggRoll97-20230912003700-Usernamekiran-20230911201500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Subtlety" data-mw-thread-id="h-Subtlety-20230911130300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Subtlety-20230911130300"></span>Subtlety<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Subtlety-20230911130300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300-Subtlety"></span>I'm very unhappy with your bot posting "refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did" and (emphasis mine) "Your edit<b>s continue</b> to appear to constitute vandalism". Edits I have made were neither unconstructive nor vandalism. You can't hide behind the sentence the bot includes that it does occasionally make mistakes. It plastered an insult on my Talk page, for everyone to see; even if I remove it, in remains in the page history. You have insulted me through you bot by telling me "refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did". I did not. F**k off, and change the bot's text to be more subtle. --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908" title="Special:Contributions/2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908">2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908" title="User talk:2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300-Subtlety" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300-Subtlety"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300-Subtlety"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K6ka-20230911195100-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300"></span>You're insulted by <i>that</i>? Goodness. —<a href="/wiki/User:K6ka" title="User:K6ka"><b><span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span></b></a> <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K6ka" title="User talk:K6ka"><span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka" title="Special:Contributions/K6ka"><span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-K6ka-20230911195100-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K6ka-20230911195100-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K6ka-20230911195100-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Usernamekiran-20230912030900-K6ka-20230911195100"></span>surprisingly, I'm not surprised. I once read somewhere (I loosely remember the words): "new generations are becoming too lazy, sensitive, taking others, and technology for granted. They are forgetting about hardwork/hardship, living with society [and something something]. Only a war effecting the globe will improve them". The author had also explained the word "snowflake". —usernamekiran <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Usernamekiran" title="User talk:Usernamekiran">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Usernamekiran-20230912030900-K6ka-20230911195100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:09, 12 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Usernamekiran-20230912030900-K6ka-20230911195100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Usernamekiran-20230912030900-K6ka-20230911195100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2NumForIce-20230913003800-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300"></span>I think the edit is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">good-faith</a>, and have <a class="external text" href="https://cluebotng.toolforge.org/?page=View&id=4268045">reported it</a> through interface. Unfortunately, ClueBot NG isn't perfect, but I hope it will get better.</dd> <dd>Also, the "Welcome to this talk page" message cannot be removed, as it is necessary for new users. ~~<a href="/wiki/User:2NumForIce" title="User:2NumForIce"><span style="background:#007eb3;color:#ffffff;">2NumForIce</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2NumForIce" title="User talk:2NumForIce"><sup style="color:#007eb3">speak</sup></a><span style="color:55a7db">|</span><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2NumForIce" title="Special:Contributions/2NumForIce"><sub>edits</sub></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-2NumForIce-20230913003800-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 13 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2NumForIce-20230913003800-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2NumForIce-20230913003800-2001:1C06:19CA:D600:12A1:8A87:91E6:6908-20230911130300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="An_archive's_index_is_broken" data-mw-thread-id="h-An_archive's_index_is_broken-20230917183700"><span id="An_archive.27s_index_is_broken"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-An_archive's_index_is_broken-20230917183700"></span>An archive's index is broken<span data-mw-comment-end="h-An_archive's_index_is_broken-20230917183700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zm14-20230917183700-An_archive's_index_is_broken"></span>Sorry if this is the wrong place. The index of the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Olbers%27s_paradox" title="Talk:Olbers's paradox">archives here</a> is broken for some reason. If this is the wrong place, where can I seek a Wikipedian's assistance in fixing it? Thanks! — <span style="background-color:DarkCyan; color:white;">zmm</span> ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zm14" title="User talk:Zm14">talk</a>~ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Zm14-20230917183700-An_archive's_index_is_broken" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 17 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zm14-20230917183700-An_archive's_index_is_broken"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zm14-20230917183700-An_archive's_index_is_broken"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aidan9382-20230917185400-Zm14-20230917183700"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Zm14&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Zm14 (page does not exist)">Zm14</a>:</span> This sort of weird archiving behaviour is a common side effect of using {{<a href="/wiki/User:ClueBot_III/ArchiveThis" title="User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis">User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis</a>}} with the wrong <code>|archiveprefix=</code> (which can happen after an uncorrected move). I've tried asking about getting this fixed in some form here myself, but my thread got archived with no reply.</dd> <dd>The bot will take a while before first updating the index, so it'll be empty until the next time it comes by, but should update correctly. I've also gone ahead and tried to sort out <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Olbers%27s_paradox/Archives/_2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Olbers's paradox/Archives/ 2 (page does not exist)">Talk:Olbers's paradox/Archives/ 2</a> as well <a href="/wiki/User:Aidan9382" title="User:Aidan9382">Aidan9382</a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aidan9382" title="User talk:Aidan9382">talk</a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Aidan9382-20230917185400-Zm14-20230917183700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 17 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aidan9382-20230917185400-Zm14-20230917183700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aidan9382-20230917185400-Zm14-20230917183700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zm14-20230917210400-Aidan9382-20230917185400"></span>Hi and thanks for the reply! Your (and my) link to Archive 2 is now red and it has a deletion notice: "19:44, 17 September 2023 - Extraordinary Writ - deleted page - (G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup".</dd> <dd>If I understand correctly, eventually the bot will correct the index including the now-deleted page? Thanks again. — <span style="background-color:DarkCyan; color:white;">zmm</span> ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zm14" title="User talk:Zm14">talk</a>~ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Zm14-20230917210400-Aidan9382-20230917185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 17 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zm14-20230917210400-Aidan9382-20230917185400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zm14-20230917210400-Aidan9382-20230917185400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aidan9382-20230917212300-Zm14-20230917210400"></span>The now-deleted page was made in error by the bot (for some reason, when <code>|archiveprefix=</code> isn't set to a subpage correctly, it breaks the default formatting mode. I fixed that <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1175831589" title="Special:Diff/1175831589">here</a>), which was why it was deleted, and therefore won't be indexed (since it doesn't exist). The other 2 pages (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Olbers%27s_paradox/Archive_1" title="Talk:Olbers's paradox/Archive 1">Talk:Olbers's paradox/Archive 1</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Olbers%27s_paradox/Archive_2" title="Talk:Olbers's paradox/Archive 2">Talk:Olbers's paradox/Archive 2</a>) should be indexed soon by the bot. <a href="/wiki/User:Aidan9382" title="User:Aidan9382">Aidan9382</a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aidan9382" title="User talk:Aidan9382">talk</a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Aidan9382-20230917212300-Zm14-20230917210400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 17 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aidan9382-20230917212300-Zm14-20230917210400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aidan9382-20230917212300-Zm14-20230917210400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zm14-20230918063300-Aidan9382-20230917212300"></span>Awesome! Thanks a lot again! — <span style="background-color:DarkCyan; color:white;">zmm</span> ~<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zm14" title="User talk:Zm14">talk</a>~ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-Zm14-20230918063300-Aidan9382-20230917212300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zm14-20230918063300-Aidan9382-20230917212300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zm14-20230918063300-Aidan9382-20230917212300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?" data-mw-thread-id="h-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?-20230919162400"><span id="ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?-20230919162400"></span>ClueBot III archiving backwards?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?-20230919162400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230919162400-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1176071893" title="Special:Diff/1176071893">this diff</a>, where the bot sent the threads to the archive in reverse chronological order. I'm really not sure why it did that, or if I accidentally messed with the settings on my talk page to cause that. In any case, I'd appreciate any help with this! <span class="nowrap">—<a href="/wiki/User:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User:TechnoSquirrel69">TechnoSquirrel69</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User talk:TechnoSquirrel69">sigh</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September#c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230919162400-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 19 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230919162400-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230919162400-ClueBot_III_archiving_backwards?"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September&oldid=1177430679">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ClueBot_Commons/Archives/2023/September&oldid=1177430679</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 September 2023, at 15:23<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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