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I've added some possible sources under <a href="/wiki/Self#Further_reading" title="Self">Self#Further reading</a>; please feel free to add further sources and especially draw on these to expand the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Hgilbert" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hgilbert">hgilbert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hgilbert" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hgilbert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Hgilbert-2011-01-28T13:28:00.000Z-Expansion_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hgilbert-2011-01-28T13:28:00.000Z-Expansion_needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hgilbert-2011-01-28T13:28:00.000Z-Expansion_needed"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eagletreefeatherwood-2021-01-11T00:57:00.000Z-Expansion_needed"></span>Proper use of vocabulary is somewhat neccessary for my thorough comorehension. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Eagletreefeatherwood&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Eagletreefeatherwood (page does not exist)">Eagletreefeatherwood</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eagletreefeatherwood&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Eagletreefeatherwood (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Eagletreefeatherwood-2021-01-11T00:57:00.000Z-Expansion_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eagletreefeatherwood-2021-01-11T00:57:00.000Z-Expansion_needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eagletreefeatherwood-2021-01-11T00:57:00.000Z-Expansion_needed"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Questions_on_'self'." data-mw-thread-id="h-Questions_on_'self'.-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"><span id="Questions_on_.27self.27."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Questions_on_'self'.-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Questions on 'self'.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Questions_on_'self'.-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Self&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Questions on 'self'."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z-Questions_on_'self'."></span>Re; Discussion ‘self’. Expansion needed 28/1/2011 I agree. The article is cursory, but there are many more important topics to be discussed before the ‘self’ can be fully and easily understood. I propose that you ask questions of interest to you relating to the ‘self’ and I shall try to answer them. KK (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/78.146.76.251" title="Special:Contributions/78.146.76.251">78.146.76.251</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:78.146.76.251" title="User talk:78.146.76.251">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z-Questions_on_'self'." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z-Questions_on_'self'."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z-Questions_on_'self'."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-192.173.6.125-20240320024100-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Why is it you in english but yo is I in Spanish. Please explain this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/192.173.6.125" title="Special:Contributions/192.173.6.125">192.173.6.125</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:192.173.6.125&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:192.173.6.125 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-192.173.6.125-20240320024100-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-192.173.6.125-20240320024100-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-192.173.6.125-20240320024100-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2D_Is_Better_Than_3D-20241015152700-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Self doesn't exist and being a constructed self trapped in a physical form is slavery. <a href="/wiki/User:2D_Is_Better_Than_3D" title="User:2D Is Better Than 3D">2D Is Better Than 3D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2D_Is_Better_Than_3D" title="User talk:2D Is Better Than 3D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-2D_Is_Better_Than_3D-20241015152700-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2D_Is_Better_Than_3D-20241015152700-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2D_Is_Better_Than_3D-20241015152700-78.146.76.251-2011-03-08T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Move_discussion_in_progress" data-mw-thread-id="h-Move_discussion_in_progress-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Move_discussion_in_progress-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z"></span>Move discussion in progress<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Move_discussion_in_progress-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Self&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Move discussion in progress"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMCD_bot-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z-Move_discussion_in_progress"></span>There is a move discussion in progress on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Selves_(disambiguation)#Requested_move_12_February_2018" title="Talk:Selves (disambiguation)">Talk:Selves (disambiguation)</a> which affects this page. 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Thank you. —<a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-RMCD_bot-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z-Move_discussion_in_progress" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 12 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMCD_bot-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z-Move_discussion_in_progress"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMCD_bot-2018-02-12T05:02:00.000Z-Move_discussion_in_progress"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="selfhood_>_personhood" data-mw-thread-id="h-selfhood_>_personhood-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z"><span id="selfhood_.3E_personhood"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-selfhood_>_personhood-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Selfhood" title="Selfhood">selfhood</a> > <a href="/wiki/Personhood" title="Personhood">personhood</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-selfhood_>_personhood-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Self&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: selfhood > personhood"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z-selfhood_>_personhood"></span>Does the awareness/sense of selfhood come before personhood?<br/> We must extrapolate on that. The article is incomplete. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673">2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z-selfhood_>_personhood" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z-selfhood_>_personhood"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:587:4101:6100:5CC1:5832:312D:8673-2019-02-14T16:08:00.000Z-selfhood_>_personhood"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Change_lead_sentence" data-mw-thread-id="h-Change_lead_sentence-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Change_lead_sentence-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z"></span>Change lead sentence<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Change_lead_sentence-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Self&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Change lead sentence"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence"></span>Change from: The self is an individual person as the object of his or her own reflective consciousness. </p><p>Change to: Self is the <a href="/wiki/Experience" title="Experience">experience</a> of one's <a href="/wiki/Own" class="mw-redirect" title="Own">own</a> <a href="/wiki/Knowledge" title="Knowledge">knowledge</a> and <a href="/wiki/Behavior" title="Behavior">behavior</a>. </p><p>...This change is unencumbered encyclopedic <a href="/wiki/Prose" title="Prose">prose</a>; the original is encumbered talk...go for the consensus.<a href="/wiki/User:Arnlodg" title="User:Arnlodg">Arnlodg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arnlodg" title="User talk:Arnlodg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z"></span>I've done some rewriting of the article. I am totally open to changing the firs sentence, if we can find a good definition? <a href="/wiki/User:Editor2020" title="User:Editor2020">Editor2020</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Editor2020" title="User talk:Editor2020">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:15, 15 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-06-15T00:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arnlodg-2019-06-16T02:05:00.000Z-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z"></span>The experience of <a href="/wiki/Being" class="mw-redirect" title="Being">being</a> <a href="/wiki/Present" title="Present">present</a>...<a href="/wiki/User:Arnlodg" title="User:Arnlodg">Arnlodg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arnlodg" title="User talk:Arnlodg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Arnlodg-2019-06-16T02:05:00.000Z-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arnlodg-2019-06-16T02:05:00.000Z-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arnlodg-2019-06-16T02:05:00.000Z-Editor2020-2019-06-15T02:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence"></span>...Rephrased lead sentences: "objective and reflexive, from and for", cited and referenced; Self is philosophy first, then we can apply it, itself, to any subject.<a href="/wiki/User:Arnlodg" title="User:Arnlodg">Arnlodg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arnlodg" title="User talk:Arnlodg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 16 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z-Change_lead_sentence"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snowded-2019-12-21T06:32:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z"></span>Arnlodg we have been here too many times before. Properly referenced proposals are always but not stream of consciousness stuff -----<a href="/wiki/User:Snowded" title="User:Snowded"><b style="color: #801818; font-family: Papyrus;">Snowded</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snowded#top" title="User talk:Snowded"><small style="color: #708090; font-family: Baskerville;">TALK</small></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Snowded-2019-12-21T06:32:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 21 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snowded-2019-12-21T06:32:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snowded-2019-12-21T06:32:00.000Z-Arnlodg-2019-12-16T16:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_Balance_in_Topics" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_Balance_in_Topics-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_Balance_in_Topics-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z"></span>More Balance in Topics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_Balance_in_Topics-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Self&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: More Balance in Topics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JPmar405-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z-More_Balance_in_Topics"></span>I thought this article was pretty well-rounded as a whole, but I do think that there should be more information balancing out the different sections of the article. There was a lot of information on the sociology of self, but I think that either it should be cut down some, or the other sections should have more information.<a href="/wiki/User:JPmar405" title="User:JPmar405">JPmar405</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JPmar405" title="User talk:JPmar405">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-JPmar405-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z-More_Balance_in_Topics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JPmar405-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z-More_Balance_in_Topics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JPmar405-2022-05-03T01:54:00.000Z-More_Balance_in_Topics"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sociology?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sociology?-20220723155400"><span id="Sociology.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sociology?-20220723155400"></span>Sociology?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sociology?-20220723155400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Self&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Sociology?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Retinalsummer-20220723155400-Sociology?"></span>Why is 90% of the sociology section taken up with the work of two psychologists? And why is this discussion of their work so long? <a href="/wiki/User:Retinalsummer" title="User:Retinalsummer">Retinalsummer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Retinalsummer" title="User talk:Retinalsummer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self#c-Retinalsummer-20220723155400-Sociology?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 23 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Retinalsummer-20220723155400-Sociology?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Retinalsummer-20220723155400-Sociology?"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> 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