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posts • Page <strong>1</strong> of <strong>1</strong> </div> </div> <div id="p16897" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile16897"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1958&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76" class="username">Niels</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">regular poster</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=1958&sr=posts&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76">22</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:49 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content16897"> <h3 class="first"> <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=16897&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76#p16897">Editions of Liebestraum (Lisz)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&f=5&p=16897&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76" title="Reply with quote" class="button 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One is edited by Emil von Sauer, and this edition is different in phrasing than others, including the first version. <br> For those who played this piece, what edition did/would you use? <br> <br> Links to the sheet music:<br> <a href="http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/8/86/IMSLP04459-Liszt_-_Liebestraum.pdf" class="postlink">http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/8 ... straum.pdf</a><br> <a href="http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/2/26/IMSLP13737-Liszt_-_S541_Liebestraume__kistner__mono.pdf" class="postlink">http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/2 ... __mono.pdf</a><br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> Niels</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p16898" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile16898"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2331&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76" class="username">sbeckmesser</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">active poster</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=2331&sr=posts&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76">501</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> Tue May 19, 2009 5:23 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-notabot"><strong>notabot:</strong> 42</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-notabottwo"><strong>notabot2:</strong> Human</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content16898"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=16898&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76#p16898">Re: Editions of Liebestraum (Lisz)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&f=5&p=16898&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=16898&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76#p16898" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2331&sid=7347f2630cc1f54bed3e0e0743407c76" class="username">sbeckmesser</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2010-01-18T18:11:08+00:00">Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:11 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">In the absence of a critical or urtext edition at IMSLP, I would almost always recommend a first edition. While the first edition here doesn't have fingerings, those can be adopted from another edition, provided the fingerings don't violate the phrasings explicit in the first edition. The first edition also has the poems which presumably inspired these pieces. They may help with your interpretation. For whatever its worth, this is my (prosaic) first go at a translation of the 2nd one:<br> <br> Blessed Death (poem by Uhland)<br> Dead was I from love's delight<br> Buried I lay in your arms<br> Awakened was I by your kisses<br> Heaven I saw in your eyes.<br> <br> And the first two lines of the 3rd<br> <br> Oh love, love as long as you can, love as long as you are able<br> The hour is coming when you will be standing graveside and lament. . .<br> <br> --Sixtus<br> <br> <a href="http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/2/26/IMSLP13737-Liszt_-_S541_Liebestraume__kistner__mono.pdf" class="postlink">http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/2 ... __mono.pdf</a><br> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_lieb,_so_lang_du_lieben_kannst" class="postlink">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_lieb,_so ... ben_kannst</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span 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