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alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Waricon.svg/25px-Waricon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Waricon.svg/38px-Waricon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Waricon.svg/50px-Waricon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="140" data-file-height="140" /></a></span></td><td class="wpb-header-combined"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history</a><span class="wpb-nested-task-force">: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Military_historiography_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military historiography task force">Historiography</a></span> </td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Waricon.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Waricon.svg/50px-Waricon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Waricon.svg/75px-Waricon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Waricon.svg/100px-Waricon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="140" data-file-height="140" /></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This template is within the scope of the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a></b>. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Open_tasks" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Open tasks">list of open tasks</a>. To use this banner, please see the <a href="/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Template:WikiProject Military history">full instructions</a>.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Military history</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Military history</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">military history</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" class="wpb-collapsed-notes"><table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"><tbody><tr><th colspan="3" class="wpb-collapsed-head">Associated task forces:</th></tr><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-gutter" style="min-width:50px"><span class="wpb-iefix">/ </span></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg/17px-Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg" decoding="async" width="17" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg/26px-Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg/34px-Thucydides-bust-cutout_ROM.jpg 2x" data-file-width="998" data-file-height="1735" /></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Military_historiography_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military historiography task force">Military historiography task force</a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Place your opinions/suggestions here... </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestions-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestions-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Suggestions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestions-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Suggestions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z-Suggestions"></span>The template looks really good. Great work! Some of the campaigns need revising; the primary African campaign was East Africa, not South-West Africa - can someone write up an article at <a href="/wiki/East_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)" class="mw-redirect" title="East African Campaign (World War I)">East African Campaign (World War I)</a>? It would be cool if <a href="/wiki/Template:WWITheatre" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:WWITheatre">Template:WWITheatre</a> could be, somehow, incorporated into this template. The "Theatres" part in Template:World War I could be removed and the blank space at the bottom could be used to add all the topics in Template:WWItheatre. I'm not sure if its possible, though - is it? Anyway, again, great work Dna-webmaster! <a href="/wiki/User:SoLando" title="User:SoLando">SoLando</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z-Suggestions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z-Suggestions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z-Suggestions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Template:WWITheatre" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:WWITheatre"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dna-webmaster-2005-09-08T20:37:00.000Z-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Template:WWITheatre</a> is already incorporated. It was the first thing I thought of:). But thank you very much for your kind words, SoLando! Regards, Dennis Nilsson. <a href="/wiki/User:Dna-webmaster" title="User:Dna-webmaster">Dna-Dennis</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Dna-webmaster-2005-09-08T20:37:00.000Z-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 8 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dna-webmaster-2005-09-08T20:37:00.000Z-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dna-webmaster-2005-09-08T20:37:00.000Z-SoLando-2005-09-08T01:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Flags" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flags-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flags-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span>Flags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flags-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Flags"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z-Flags"></span>Some of the miniature flags are wrong. India's flag in 1914-1918 was not the current, post-independence flag, but rather one looking like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldstatesmen.org/ind_virr.gif">this</a>. Canada's flag is also wrong. It should look like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldstatesmen.org/ca-1907.gif">this</a>. Newfoundland ought to be <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldstatesmen.org/ca_nfbe2.gif">this</a>; the Italian flag should have the cross of Savoy, as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldstatesmen.org/it-1897m.gif">such</a>; and there's a coat of arms in the old Romanian flag, as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.worldstatesmen.org/ro_1877.gif">such</a>. I'm not sure how to deal with this. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Kenney" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Kenney">john k</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-John_Kenney-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z-Flags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 8 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z-Flags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-08T21:38:00.000Z-Flags"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dna-webmaster-2005-12-09T20:20:00.000Z-Flags"></span>Thanks for noticing this, John! I was not the one who added the flags, and I am not sure whether I like to have them in the template. Since many of them are wrong, I think it's better, for now, to remove all the flags. I have done this, but I put a backup of them here:</dd></dl> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_I" title="Allies of World War I">Entente Powers</a></b> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Russia_(1914-1917).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Flag_of_Russia_%281914-1917%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_Russia_%281914-1917%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Flag_of_Russia_%281914-1917%29.svg/30px-Flag_of_Russia_%281914-1917%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Flag_of_Russia_%281914-1917%29.svg/40px-Flag_of_Russia_%281914-1917%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Imperial_Russia" class="mw-redirect" title="Imperial Russia">Russian Empire</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_France.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/20px-Flag_of_France.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/30px-Flag_of_France.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/40px-Flag_of_France.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/British_Empire" title="British Empire">British Empire</a> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/20px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/30px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/40px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1280" data-file-height="640" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Australia" title="Australia">Australia</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Ca-1868.png" class="new" title="File:Ca-1868.png"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="20">File:Ca-1868.png</span></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Canada" title="Canada">Canada</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Flag_of_the_Viceroy_of_India.JPG" class="new" title="File:Flag of the Viceroy of India.JPG"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="20">File:Flag of the Viceroy of India.JPG</span></a></span> <a href="/wiki/India" title="India">India</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg/20px-Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg/30px-Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg/40px-Newfoundland_Tricolour.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1200" data-file-height="600" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Newfoundland" class="mw-redirect" title="Newfoundland">Newfoundland</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg/20px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg/30px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png 1.5x, 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data-file-height="400" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/South_Africa" title="South Africa">South Africa</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/20px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="10" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/30px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/40px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1200" data-file-height="600" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a></li></ul></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Italy_(1861%E2%80%931946).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Flag_of_Italy_%281861%E2%80%931946%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_Italy_%281861%E2%80%931946%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Flag_of_Italy_%281861%E2%80%931946%29.svg/30px-Flag_of_Italy_%281861%E2%80%931946%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Flag_of_Italy_%281861%E2%80%931946%29.svg/40px-Flag_of_Italy_%281861%E2%80%931946%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1500" data-file-height="1000" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italy</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Romania.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Flag_of_Romania.gif/20px-Flag_of_Romania.gif" decoding="async" width="20" height="13" class="mw-file-element" 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href="/wiki/Central_Powers" title="Central Powers">Central Powers</a></b> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Germany_(1867%E2%80%931918).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Flag_of_Germany_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_Germany_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Flag_of_Germany_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg/30px-Flag_of_Germany_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Flag_of_Germany_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg/40px-Flag_of_Germany_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/German_Empire" title="German Empire">German Empire</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg/20px-Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg/30px-Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg/40px-Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1200" data-file-height="800" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Austria-Hungary" title="Austria-Hungary">Austria-Hungary</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Late_ottoman_flag.png" class="new" title="File:Late ottoman flag.png"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="20">File:Late ottoman flag.png</span></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600" /></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Bulgaria" title="Bulgaria">Bulgaria</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p>My regards, Dennis Nilsson. <a href="/wiki/User:Dna-webmaster" title="User:Dna-webmaster">Dna-Dennis</a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dna-webmaster" title="User talk:Dna-webmaster">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dna-webmaster" title="Special:Contributions/Dna-webmaster">contribs</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Dna-webmaster-2005-12-09T20:20:00.000Z-Flags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dna-webmaster-2005-12-09T20:20:00.000Z-Flags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dna-webmaster-2005-12-09T20:20:00.000Z-Flags"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T20:33:00.000Z-Flags"></span>I like the idea of having the flags, but I think they need to be correct...I suppose we need to find public domain images of the older flags. Someone could write to the proprietor of worldstatesmen.org to see if the flags he uses are public domain images? <a href="/wiki/User:John_Kenney" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Kenney">john k</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T20:33:00.000Z-Flags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T20:33:00.000Z-Flags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T20:33:00.000Z-Flags"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T22:29:00.000Z-Flags"></span>Just to note - the ones that definitely need changing are Canada, India, and Newfoundland. It would be nice to find new images for Romania and Italy, but the tricolor images are essentially correct, so it would, I think, be acceptable to use the current images. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Kenney" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Kenney">john k</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T22:29:00.000Z-Flags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:29, 9 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T22:29:00.000Z-Flags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Kenney-2005-12-09T22:29:00.000Z-Flags"></span> </p><p>I've replaced the Canadian and Indian ones, since we seem to already have images. On inspection, the Newfoundland flag appears to possibly be correct. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Conversion_to_portal?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conversion_to_portal?-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z"><span id="Conversion_to_portal.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conversion_to_portal?-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z"></span>Conversion to portal?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conversion_to_portal?-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Conversion to portal?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirill_Lokshin-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z-Conversion_to_portal?"></span>A discussion about possibly converting large footer templates for wars—such as this one—into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Portal" title="Wikipedia:Portal">portals</a> has been started <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:MILHIST#Giant_see-also_templates" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:MILHIST">here</a></b>; comments and suggestions would be very welcome! <a href="/wiki/User:Kirill_Lokshin" title="User:Kirill Lokshin">Kirill Lokshin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Kirill_Lokshin-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z-Conversion_to_portal?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirill_Lokshin-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z-Conversion_to_portal?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirill_Lokshin-2006-09-18T02:25:00.000Z-Conversion_to_portal?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_Update" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_Update-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_Update-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z"></span>Template Update<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_Update-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Template Update"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z-Template_Update"></span>I've changed all fixed width images to templates. All flags are identical, but some were changed from old GIF versions to better SVG ones. I've kept <span class="flagicon"><span class="mw-image-border" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Austria-Hungary" title="Austria-Hungary"><img alt="Austria-Hungary" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Archduchy_of_Austria_flag.svg/23px-Archduchy_of_Austria_flag.svg.png" decoding="async" width="23" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Archduchy_of_Austria_flag.svg/35px-Archduchy_of_Austria_flag.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Archduchy_of_Austria_flag.svg/45px-Archduchy_of_Austria_flag.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1125" data-file-height="750" /></a></span></span> flag but maybe it should be changed to <span class="flagicon"><span class="mw-image-border" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Austria-Hungary" title="Austria-Hungary"><img alt="Austria-Hungary" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg/23px-Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="23" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg/35px-Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg/45px-Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281867%E2%80%931918%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1200" data-file-height="800" /></a></span></span>. <a href="/wiki/User:Piotr_Miko%C5%82ajski" title="User:Piotr Mikołajski">Piotr Mikołajski</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z-Template_Update" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z-Template_Update"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotr_Mikołajski-2007-04-15T08:42:00.000Z-Template_Update"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Contemporaneous_conflicts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Contemporaneous_conflicts-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Contemporaneous_conflicts-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z"></span>Contemporaneous conflicts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Contemporaneous_conflicts-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Contemporaneous conflicts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-H2ppyme-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z-Contemporaneous_conflicts"></span>Regardless that they were smaller wars, <a href="/wiki/Estonian_War_of_Independence" title="Estonian War of Independence">Estonian</a>, <a href="/wiki/Latvian_War_of_Independence" title="Latvian War of Independence">Latvian</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lithuanian_Wars_of_Independence" title="Lithuanian Wars of Independence">Lithuanian</a> wars of independence should be added to this template. Besides, Estonian war of indpendence had a lot more casualties than Easter Rising and Irish War of Independence combined. <a href="/wiki/User:H2ppyme" title="User:H2ppyme">H2ppyme</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-H2ppyme-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z-Contemporaneous_conflicts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-H2ppyme-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z-Contemporaneous_conflicts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-H2ppyme-2007-10-14T13:14:00.000Z-Contemporaneous_conflicts"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arab_revolt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arab_revolt-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arab_revolt-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Arab revolt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arab_revolt-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Arab revolt"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z-Arab_revolt"></span>Why this template does not include Arab revolt part of Middle Eastern theatre. It is part of <a href="/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I" title="Middle Eastern theatre of World War I">Middle Eastern theatre of World War I</a>. I this exclusion is injects biase against the Middle Eastern theatre. Specially, and rightfully <a href="/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao" title="Siege of Tsingtao">Siege of Tsingtao</a> is part of this template. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z-Arab_revolt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z-Arab_revolt"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z-Arab_revolt"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"></span>The <a href="/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao" title="Siege of Tsingtao">Siege of Tsingtao</a> is not a major battle. It is one of a number of attacks on German colonies and territorial possessions at the start of the war. I think it’s inclusion on the Asian and Pacific theatre campaign box is more that sufficient.--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Response to a claim: Removing parts of operations in a theatre on the basis "this is not a big enough" is a biased activity. These links are there to show what constitutes the specific "theatre." Rather than an individual authors' perceptions regarding what is important or not. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z"></span>I am not debating the importance of the Arab revolt. I agree it should be included, just not as a sub-theatre of its own. The material I've read notes it as an uprising educed to support the Allied actions of the Sinai/Palestine campaign. That's why I'd suggest placing it under other conflicts?--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z"></span>I suggest placing the <a href="/wiki/Arab_Revolt" title="Arab Revolt">Arab Revolt</a> under the <b>Other conflicts</b> section. It's similar to the <a href="/wiki/Easter_uprising" class="mw-redirect" title="Easter uprising">Easter uprising</a> in that it was an insurrection funded by the opposing side.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Arab_Revolt" title="Arab Revolt">Arab Revolt</a> operated along the <a href="/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I" title="Middle Eastern theatre of World War I">Middle Eastern theatre of World War I</a>. We do not need to break the article integrity. I do not know details of <a href="/wiki/Easter_uprising" class="mw-redirect" title="Easter uprising">Easter uprising</a>, but I suspect it was part of any major theatre. <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Arab_revolt" class="mw-redirect" title="Arab revolt">Arab revolt</a> and <a href="/wiki/Armenian_resistance" class="mw-redirect" title="Armenian resistance">Armenian resistance</a> are not single (contained) events that can be claimed a "conflict" and located among the conflicts such as <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_the_Frontiers" title="Battle of the Frontiers">Battle of the Frontiers</a>. Why? They did not occur at a single locality. They are not limited to single tribe or political group. Also, they are not limited to single day, month, even a year. They both aim to develop their own political structure (An Armenian Republic, or An Arab Kingdom). Both of them occurred where Allied operations were going on (Sinai/Palestine and Caucuses). There were Arab civilian forces at the Battle of Megiddo (1918) and there were Russian forces who come to relieve Armenian forces at Resistance at Van. They are part of Middle Eastern theatre. If we separate (remove) them it will create a bias against the Middle Eastern theatre. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-01T19:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z"></span>I am well aware that they both events are within the Middle Eastern theatre but they are not sub-theatres or traditional military campaigns in onto themselves. The reason I was suggesting that they be placed under other conflicts is for the reasons you mention, that they are revolutionary / nationalist movements. I understand that they are not singular events but that doesn’t change their nature. All of the events listed under the other conflicts are revolutions or rebellions, so it appears to be an appropriate grouping. I notice the <a href="/wiki/Senussi_Uprising" class="mw-redirect" title="Senussi Uprising">Senussi Uprising</a> is also omitted and should also be included.--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-03T22:25:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z"></span>In Wikipedia Categories have multiple associations. One event may play in more than one capability. There is a truth in your point, but my point is also true. What about a middle way. Accept the fact that these events played (have a role) in different concepts. List them as part of armed conflicts in the middle eastern theatre and list them as nationalist/revolutionist entities. <b>A game in a bigger game.</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-03T22:25:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 3 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-03T22:25:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-03T22:25:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Arab_revolt"></span><figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Greater_Middle_East_(orthographic_projection).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Greater_Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/100px-Greater_Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Greater_Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/150px-Greater_Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Greater_Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/200px-Greater_Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600" /></a><figcaption>The Middle East</figcaption></figure> <ul><li><b>Middle Eastern theatre: (Caucasus · Persia · Gallipoli · Mesopotamia · Sinai and Palestine · North · Arab · Armenian)</b> This representation is correct regarding Middle Eastern (....) list. The Ottoman Empire of Central Powers was fighting all and sometimes loosing forces from front and back between 1914-1918 in this region of the world which is named as Middle Eastern theatre. Isn't that matters? I mean this simple fact. " --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Arab_revolt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Arab_revolt"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-Arab_revolt"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-1"></span>The political concept of <a href="/wiki/Greater_Middle_East" title="Greater Middle East">Greater Middle East</a> is rather contemporary concept and doesn't apply to the current geographical orientation of the world, or that of the world in 1914.--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-02T16:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T21:54:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)-Arab_revolt-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z"><span id="Multiple_Associations_.28Arab.2C_Armenian.2C_Easter_uprising.2C_etc.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)-Arab_revolt-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Multiple Associations (Arab, Armenian, Easter uprising, etc)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)-Arab_revolt-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Multiple Associations (Arab, Armenian, Easter uprising, etc)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)"></span>The representation of complex events (meaning has multiple associations (participating at multiple levels)) during this period should have the links (or added to the list) in all of the representations in this template. Such as in the case of Arab Revolt; it should be listed as part of "Middle Eastern theatre" as the Arab fighters were both operated at conflicts engaged by the Allies and part of "other conflicts" as some of the Arab fighters engaged based on their strategic goals. The idea behind is "We should not do over simplification by choosing one function based on our perceived importance". If there is not any other view, I will go with this idea. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z-Multiple_Associations_(Arab,_Armenian,_Easter_uprising,_etc)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z"></span>I don't fully understand your proposal. What amendments are you seeking to the template? We still remain at an impasse regarding including the nationalist movements within the campaigns, so including that wouldn't be appropriate. Are you suggesting a new field within the template?.--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T18:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z"></span>If a nationalist group tell its own people to get armed and be part of a campaign (fight along other national forces (such as British, German etc), why should we exclude them from that campaign? Especially the King, PM, Char or whatever the leader of the major participant already recognized their efforts during the time of war. You are clearly wrong on your idea "<b>nationalist movements within the campaigns</b>." --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T18:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z"></span>Do you have reliable sources that show the classify the mentioned nationalist movements as being classified as independent military campaigns? The books I have here in my apartment classify the Arab Revolt under Sinai/Palestine campaign and the Armenian resistance (at least the battles at Van, Erzinjan and Abaran) under the Caucasus Campaign. If you have a wide body of reliable resources that show the opposite, I'd be glad to change my position.--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-10T19:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z"></span>First they are Revolt, Rebellion, Resistance, Freedom movement etc. I'm not claiming Arab revolt is a Campaign. They were substantial events from time & place perspectives which effected the major events during the <a href="/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I" title="Middle Eastern theatre of World War I">Middle Eastern theatre of World War I</a>. So I'm stating that they are part of <a href="/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I" title="Middle Eastern theatre of World War I">Middle Eastern theatre of World War I</a>. They should be listed as <b>Middle Eastern theatre: (Caucasus · Persia · Gallipoli · Mesopotamia · Sinai and Palestine · North · Arab · Armenian)</b> If you have problems of linking them to major events of the Middle Eastern theatre: For Arab Revolt there "Jeremy Wilson, Lawrence of Arabia: The Authorized Biography of T.E. Lawrence (1990)" tells how British FO coordinated British military activities using Lawrence of Arabia in the region. For the Armenian Resistance you should consider the agreement by the Russia using the references in the <a href="/wiki/Armenian_congress_at_Erzurum" title="Armenian congress at Erzurum">Armenian congress at Erzurum</a>, and later the Char's visit to the battle field and reference to <a href="/wiki/Armenian_volunteer_units" title="Armenian volunteer units">Armenian volunteer units</a> in the (Shaw 1977, pp. 314-315) use the link to Shaw in the <a href="/wiki/Caucasus_Campaign" class="mw-redirect" title="Caucasus Campaign">Caucasus Campaign</a>. Armenian activities during 1915 summarized as a heading "Armenian Revolt" in the <a href="/wiki/Ordered_to_Die:_A_History_of_the_Ottoman_Army_in_the_First_World_War" class="mw-redirect" title="Ordered to Die: A History of the Ottoman Army in the First World War">Ordered to Die: A History of the Ottoman Army in the First World War</a>. You can read the pages (Erickson 2001, pp. 54-68). You should reach the French agreement with Armenian nationals using the page <a href="/w/index.php?title=French%E2%80%93Armenian_Agreement_(1916)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="French–Armenian Agreement (1916) (page does not exist)">French–Armenian Agreement (1916)</a>. For the military activities under French Army, use the references at <a href="/wiki/French_Armenian_Legion" title="French Armenian Legion">French Armenian Legion</a>. I'm saying these were part of Middle Eastern theatre and should be listed in this template as being part of Middle Eastern theatre. If you want to classify, other ways go ahead. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z-Labattblueboy-2010-02-10T23:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-11T14:26:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z"></span>I still believe that both the Armenian and Arab resistance movements fit under pre-exisiting sub-theatres and that the Northern African campaign is part of the African sphere. In short, I still oppose your amendment suggestion. This appears to leave us at am impass without any consensus and I don't think any discussion between us will change the situation. I'll leave a messasge on the MILHIST WW1 talk page and invite some additional participation.--<a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-11T14:26:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-11T14:26:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-2010-02-11T14:26:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-11T00:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)" data-mw-thread-id="h-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z"><span id="North_African_Campaign_.28World_War_I.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z"></span>North African Campaign (World War I)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: North African Campaign (World War I)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)"></span>The <a href="/wiki/North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)" class="mw-redirect" title="North African Campaign (World War I)">North African Campaign (World War I)</a> geologically located as North African but the <a href="/wiki/African_theatre_of_World_War_I" title="African theatre of World War I">African theatre of World War I</a> rightfully does not include it as part of its operations. As rightfully, it was a different operation waged as a side operation in the <a href="/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I" title="Middle Eastern theatre of World War I">Middle Eastern theatre of World War I</a>. The Middle Eastern theatre of World War I includes the operations in this geographic location. The readers who want to learn Middle Eastern theatre could not see North African Campaign under the operations as somebody without knowing what they were doing classified wrongly. This has to be fixed. It needs to be classified where the operations belong to. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z-North_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:49:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z"></span>There is no reason to come up with new styles, as the list of articles following the theatre shows what operations included as operations on he respective theatre. Removing these operations breaks the meaning of putting inside brackets and misleads the people. --<a href="/wiki/User:GoegAvachelli" title="User:GoegAvachelli">GoegAvachelli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoegAvachelli" title="User talk:GoegAvachelli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:49:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:49:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:49:00.000Z-GoegAvachelli-2010-02-01T17:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Prisoners_of_War" data-mw-thread-id="h-Prisoners_of_War-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Prisoners_of_War-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z"></span>Prisoners of War<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Prisoners_of_War-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Prisoners of War"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leidseplein-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z-Prisoners_of_War"></span>I added a category on prisoners to the "aspects" section of the template. At the moment the only available internal link I can find is to German POWs in the United States, but I am working on other WWI POW populations and will add them shortly. Please do comment on, edit, rename or re-arrange the edits I did on this template if it enhances clarity; you certainly don't need MY approval and it looks like this template is infrequently discussed anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Leidseplein" title="User:Leidseplein">Leidseplein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leidseplein" title="User talk:Leidseplein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Leidseplein-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z-Prisoners_of_War" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leidseplein-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z-Prisoners_of_War"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leidseplein-2011-03-29T21:10:00.000Z-Prisoners_of_War"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="all_those_minor_middle-east_battles" data-mw-thread-id="h-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z"></span>all those minor middle-east battles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: all those minor middle-east battles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RoslynSKP" title="User:RoslynSKP"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles"></span>User:RoslynSKP</a> seems to either overestimate importance of middle-eastern battles or misunderstand obvious limitations of template space. With his latest additions year 1917 has 11 battls from middle-east (previously was 1), while rest of the world has 6 battles (3 western front, 1 eastern front, 1 italy, 1 romania) + 1 armistice. Obvious scales of battles are completely different too, most of those middle-eastern battles don't break 10k casualty mark, from the rest of battles its very hard to find anything below 50k, with most going solidly over 100k casualties. Considering that adding similarly less important battles from other theatres too isn't really viable, because it would make those lists extremely long and not very readable, only logical solution is to limit list only to most important battles and remove all those trivial minor clashes.--<a href="/wiki/User:Staberinde" title="User:Staberinde">Staberinde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staberinde" title="User talk:Staberinde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 5 October 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-05T23:36:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z"></span>Its not a question of relative importance or scale of battles but rather of balance. Clearly the western front was the most important campaign of the war and most resources concentrated there. But if only the western front operations are listed, then the very successful middle east campaign is lost sight of. The opportunity for an overview of the war, which this template provides, would be compromised by questions of discrimination between battles and campaigns, which the casual reader won't know anything about. The battles which have been cut resulted in the capture of <a href="/wiki/Jerusalem" title="Jerusalem">Jerusalem</a> and southern Palestine from the <a href="/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a>. These battles were not "trivial minor clashes." --<a href="/wiki/User:RoslynSKP" title="User:RoslynSKP">Rskp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoslynSKP" title="User talk:RoslynSKP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-05T23:36:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 5 October 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-05T23:36:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-05T23:36:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-05T14:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles"></span>Umm, if its question about balance then I would say that previous balance was quite solid counting battles: <br /> 1914: west-4, east-3, serbia-2, caucasus-1 <br /> 1915: west-2, east-2, italy-1, serbia-1, middle-east-1, gallipoli-1 <br /> 1916: west-2, east-2, italy-1, midle-east-1, macedonia-1, caucasus-1, romania-1, naval-1<br /> 1917: west-3, east-1, italy-1, middle-east-1, romania-1 <br /> 1918 west-3, east-1, italy-1, middle-east-1, macedonia-1, caucasus-1 <br /> Total: west-14, east-9, italy-4, midle-east-4, serbia-3, macedonia-2, caucasus-2, romania-2, gallipoli-1, naval-1<br /> I would say that middle-east already had very solid presence considering peripherial importance of the front.<br /> </p><p>With your last version it changed to:<br /> 1916: west-2, east-2, <b>midle-east-2</b>, italy-1, macedonia-1, caucasus-1, romania-1, naval-1<br /> 1917: west-3, east-1, italy-1, <b>middle-east-9</b>, romania-1<br /> Changing total to: est-14, east-9, italy-4, <b>midle-east-13</b>, serbia-3, macedonia-2, caucasus-2, romania-2, gallipoli-1, naval-1<br /> So yeah, its question of balance, but your version doesn't really have one while previous one was quite solid. I dont see how you could argue that middle-east was any more important then for example Italian front.--<a href="/wiki/User:Staberinde" title="User:Staberinde">Staberinde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staberinde" title="User talk:Staberinde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 6 October 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z-all_those_minor_middle-east_battles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-08T00:55:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z"></span>I see your point. I will cut Magdhaba from 1916 and Tel el Khuweilfe, and Hareira and Sheria from 1917. --<a href="/wiki/User:RoslynSKP" title="User:RoslynSKP">Rskp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoslynSKP" title="User talk:RoslynSKP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-08T00:55:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 8 October 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-08T00:55:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoslynSKP-2013-10-08T00:55:00.000Z-Staberinde-2013-10-06T15:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Interlanguage_links" data-mw-thread-id="h-Interlanguage_links-20240212215700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Interlanguage_links-20240212215700"></span>Interlanguage links<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Interlanguage_links-20240212215700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Interlanguage links"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labattblueboy-20240212215700-Interlanguage_links"></span>The red links resulting from the use of Interlanguage links appears out of place for a centralized topic template particularly when there doesn't appear to be any prospect of the article being created in English. <a href="/wiki/User:Labattblueboy" title="User:Labattblueboy">Labattblueboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labattblueboy" title="User talk:Labattblueboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:World_War_I#c-Labattblueboy-20240212215700-Interlanguage_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labattblueboy-20240212215700-Interlanguage_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labattblueboy-20240212215700-Interlanguage_links"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&oldid=1239004588">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:World_War_I&oldid=1239004588</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_military_history_pages" title="Category:Template-Class military history pages">Template-Class military history pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_military_historiography_pages" title="Category:Template-Class military historiography pages">Template-Class military historiography pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Military_historiography_task_force_articles" title="Category:Military historiography task force articles">Military historiography task force articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_missing_files" title="Category:Pages with missing files">Pages with missing files</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 6 August 2024, at 20:45<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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