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Both areas are subjects of debate.</b><br>Contributors are urged to review the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics#Awareness_of_contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">awareness criteria</a> carefully and exercise caution when editing.</td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Emblem-important.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Note icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Emblem-important.svg/25px-Emblem-important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Emblem-important.svg/38px-Emblem-important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Emblem-important.svg/50px-Emblem-important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">For information on Wikipedia's approach to the establishment of new <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">policies and guidelines</a>, refer to <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines#Proposals" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">WP:PROPOSAL</a></b>. Additionally, <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_contribute_to_Wikipedia_guidance" title="Wikipedia:How to contribute to Wikipedia guidance">guidance on how to contribute to the development and revision of Wikipedia policies</a></b> of Wikipedia's policy and guideline documents is available, offering valuable insights and recommendations.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Discussion"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-2"><a href="#Redesign"><span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Redesign</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Additions?"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Additions?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Overhaul"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Overhaul</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Related_to_specific_culture"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Related to specific culture</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_%22Related_to_specific_cultures%22_section"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints) --> "Related to specific cultures" section</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Numbers"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Numbers</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Really_long"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Really long</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Subsections"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Subsections</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Thank_heaven:_narrower"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Thank heaven: narrower</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Adding_A_Missing_Page"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Adding A Missing Page</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Proposed_replacement"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Proposed replacement</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Manual_of_Style_(film)"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Manual of Style (film)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Small_change"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Small change</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Edit_request_from_Midager,_2_June_2011"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Edit request from Midager, 2 June 2011</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Enhance NavBox to include more links?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Draft_navbox"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Draft navbox</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Section links: to page? or to category?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Specific_Geographic_naming_issues"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Specific Geographic naming issues</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Move"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Move</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Parameter_%22expanded%22"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Parameter "expanded"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Requested_move_18_June_2014"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Requested move 18 June 2014</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-23"><a href="#Survey"><span class="tocnumber">21.1</span> <span class="toctext">Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-24"><a href="#Discussion_2"><span class="tocnumber">21.2</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#WikiProject_Computer_science"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">WikiProject Computer science</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Editsummary"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Editsummary</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Put noinclude around the deletion announcement?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Proposed_astronomy_MoS"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Proposed astronomy MoS</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_3_October_2024"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2024</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Discussion" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-77' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Quiddity-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z-Redesign">18 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <p><i>Please add issues below as you see fit.</i> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Redesign" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redesign-Discussion-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redesign-Discussion-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Redesign<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redesign-Discussion-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Redesign" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quiddity-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z-Redesign"></span>If we're going to redesign it, can we change it to CSS instead of tables for layout at the same time? -<a href="/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Quiddity-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z-Redesign" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quiddity-2006-05-14T22:41:00.000Z-Redesign"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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id="h-Additions?-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z"></span>Additions?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Additions?-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Additions?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-78' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jokes_Free4Me-2009-07-09T16:09:00.000Z-Additions?">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>7 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z-Additions?"></span>Should I add the other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Submanuals" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style">Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Submanuals</a> that aren't listed here yet? --<a href="/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z-Additions?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z-Additions?"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z-Additions?"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(legal)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (legal)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quiddity-2007-01-01T21:05:00.000Z-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Manual of Style (legal)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(spelling)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(lists_of_works)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>Done, and a few more fixes. Revert if its new length breaks anything. —<a href="/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Quiddity-2007-01-01T21:05:00.000Z-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quiddity-2007-01-01T21:05:00.000Z-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quiddity-2007-01-01T21:05:00.000Z-Quiddity-2006-11-01T04:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z-Additions?"></span>How about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Summary_style" title="Wikipedia:Summary style">Wikipedia:Summary style</a>? - <a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z-Additions?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z-Additions?"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z-Additions?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quiddity-2007-04-08T18:05:00.000Z-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z"></span>Done. --<a href="/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Quiddity-2007-04-08T18:05:00.000Z-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 8 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quiddity-2007-04-08T18:05:00.000Z-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quiddity-2007-04-08T18:05:00.000Z-Jc37-2007-04-08T11:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frelke-2007-04-14T12:18:00.000Z-Additions?"></span>And I have now added <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(infoboxes)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)">Infoboxes</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Frelke" title="User:Frelke">Frelke</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Frelke-2007-04-14T12:18:00.000Z-Additions?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frelke-2007-04-14T12:18:00.000Z-Additions?"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frelke-2007-04-14T12:18:00.000Z-Additions?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rocket000-2007-09-08T19:02:00.000Z-Additions?"></span>Should <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Record_charts" title="Wikipedia:Record charts">Wikipedia:Record charts</a> be added? This list keeps getting longer... what if we start to merge some pages (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Record_charts" title="Wikipedia:Record charts">Wikipedia:Record charts</a> with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)</a>)? It's not really a problem belonging to this specific template, which is just a result of the underlying problem of too many guidelines on too many pages... it makes it hard to find certain information. -<a href="/wiki/User:Rocket000" title="User:Rocket000">Rocket000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Rocket000-2007-09-08T19:02:00.000Z-Additions?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rocket000-2007-09-08T19:02:00.000Z-Additions?"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rocket000-2007-09-08T19:02:00.000Z-Additions?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jokes_Free4Me-2009-07-09T16:09:00.000Z-Additions?"></span>Yet <i>another</i> one: <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(diagrams_and_maps)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (diagrams and maps)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (diagrams and maps)</a></b>. Should i just add it? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Jokes_Free4Me" title="User:Jokes Free4Me">Jokes Free4Me</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jokes_Free4Me" title="User talk:Jokes Free4Me">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Jokes_Free4Me-2009-07-09T16:09:00.000Z-Additions?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jokes_Free4Me-2009-07-09T16:09:00.000Z-Additions?"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-79' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tony1-2007-11-30T04:41:00.000Z-Overhaul">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-2007-11-30T04:41:00.000Z-Overhaul"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_94#Overhaul_of_the_so-called_Style_Template" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 94">Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_94#Overhaul_of_the_so-called_Style_Template</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;"><b>Tony</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tony1" title="User talk:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Tony1-2007-11-30T04:41:00.000Z-Overhaul" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2007-11-30T04:41:00.000Z-Overhaul"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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id="h-Related_to_specific_culture-2008-04-11T18:39:00.000Z"></span>Related to specific culture<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Related_to_specific_culture-2008-04-11T18:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Related to specific culture" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-80' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kubanczyk-2008-04-11T18:39:00.000Z-Related_to_specific_culture">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kubanczyk-2008-04-11T18:39:00.000Z-Related_to_specific_culture"></span>I've moved all the "ThisCountry-related articles" to a COMMON sub-section. I think it doesn't matter that some of them are policies and other guides, because there is no clash for any country, i.e. there is no policy about France and guide about France. Furthermore, I propose splitting them to a completely different template. I think that some more over-specific links should join, like Chemistry, Math, etc. Let's leave only very general and very basic stuff here. Comments? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kubanczyk" title="User:Kubanczyk">Kubanczyk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kubanczyk" title="User talk:Kubanczyk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Kubanczyk-2008-04-11T18:39:00.000Z-Related_to_specific_culture" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kubanczyk-2008-04-11T18:39:00.000Z-Related_to_specific_culture"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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section"}--><h2 id='WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_section' data-mw-thread-id='h-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z'><span id="WP:Manual_of_Style_.28Latter_Day_Saints.29_--.3E_.22Related_to_specific_cultures.22_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z'></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)">WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)</a> --> "Related to specific cultures" section<span data-mw-comment-end='h-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=6" title='Edit section: WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints) --> "Related to specific cultures" section' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-81' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Plasticup-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">_\"Related_to_specific_cultures\"_sectio-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Plasticup-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_\"Related_to_specific_cultures\"_sectio"],"text":"WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints) --> \"Related to specific cultures\" section","linkableTitle":"WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints) --> \"Related to specific cultures\" section"}--></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Plasticup-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio'></span>Shouldn't the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)">WP:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)</a> link be in the "Related to specific cultures" section? It is very out of place where it is now. I am going to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">be bold</a> and move it down the template, but feel free to revert me. <a href="/wiki/User:Plasticup" title="User:Plasticup"><b><span style="color:#0080FF;">Plasticup</span></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Plasticup" title="User talk:Plasticup"><span style="color:#2A8E82;"><sup><small>T</small></sup></span></a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Plasticup" title="Special:Contributions/Plasticup"><span style="color:#2A8E82;"><small>C</small></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Plasticup-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_%22Related_to_specific_cultures%22_sectio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Plasticup-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio'><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Plasticup-2008-07-07T22:22:00.000Z-WP:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)_-->_"Related_to_specific_cultures"_sectio'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Numbers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Numbers-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Numbers-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z"></span>Numbers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Numbers-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Numbers" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-82' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kotniski-2009-05-19T14:43:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z-Numbers"></span>Although numbers is included in the list, it's not immediately obvious (being listed under "D" for "Dates and numbers"). For something so basic, I think it ought to have its own entry and have been bold and made it so. <a href="/wiki/User:Bazza_7" title="User:Bazza 7">Bazza</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bazza_7" title="User talk:Bazza 7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z-Numbers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z-Numbers"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z-Numbers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z"></span>Two subsequent reverts - both without discussion - have prompted me to suggest a more radical change: separate <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)</a> into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(numbers)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers)</a>, with a separate entry for each in this template's list. <a href="/wiki/User:Bazza_7" title="User:Bazza 7">Bazza</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bazza_7" title="User talk:Bazza 7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-01-12T14:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotniski-2009-05-19T14:43:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Doesn't sound a bad idea, but you'd better bring it up there (i.e. at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:MOSNUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:MOSNUM">WT:MOSNUM</a> - which I should warn you is a page where tensions traditionally run inexplicably high).--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kotniski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kotniski (page does not exist)">Kotniski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kotniski" title="User talk:Kotniski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Kotniski-2009-05-19T14:43:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotniski-2009-05-19T14:43:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kotniski-2009-05-19T14:43:00.000Z-Bazza_7-2009-05-19T14:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Really_long" data-mw-thread-id="h-Really_long-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Really_long-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z"></span>Really long<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Really_long-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Really long" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-83' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-ChyranandChloe-2009-08-07T01:57:00.000Z-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z-Really_long"></span>This template is really long. Can we get some "hide/show" sections, so that pages that are primarily connected to a single aspect could display a shorter list? <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z-Really_long" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z-Really_long"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z-Really_long"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChyranandChloe-2009-08-07T01:57:00.000Z-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 18px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="18" data-height="18" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span><b> Done</b></span> Took the format from another series I was working on, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROCESS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROCESS">WP:PROCESS</a>, and used it as the guide for this one. Shortened the titles for some sections. The section "Help" are in my opinion unnecessary, it can be removed. <a href="/wiki/User:ChyranandChloe" title="User:ChyranandChloe">ChyranandChloe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChyranandChloe" title="User talk:ChyranandChloe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-ChyranandChloe-2009-08-07T01:57:00.000Z-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChyranandChloe-2009-08-07T01:57:00.000Z-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChyranandChloe-2009-08-07T01:57:00.000Z-WhatamIdoing-2009-07-07T17:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(8)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Subsections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Subsections-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Subsections-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z"></span>Subsections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Subsections-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Subsections" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-84' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Leevanjackson-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z-Subsections">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leevanjackson-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z-Subsections"></span>Is it possible to have subsections appear on the list, once a main page is highlighted. For example <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Words_to_avoid" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Words to avoid">Wikipedia:Words to avoid</a> has its own entry, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words">Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words</a> is in the articles 'See also' section and seems closely related. it would make sense to me if once you were on 'words to avoid', that the navbox then displayed the pages that are related so one would get: </p> <dl><dd>Wikimedia sister projects</dd> <dd><b>Words to avoid</b> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_peacock_terms" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Avoid peacock terms">Wikipedia:Avoid peacock terms</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words">Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words</a></dd> <dd>other subpages...</dd></dl></dd> <dd>other sections</dd></dl> <p>I'm sure I've seen this done in other templates, but not sure how easy it is. <a href="/wiki/User:Leevanjackson" title="User:Leevanjackson">Lee∴V</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leevanjackson" title="User talk:Leevanjackson"><span style="color:#a3bfb1;">(talk</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/leevanjackson" title="Special:Contributions/leevanjackson"><span style="color:#a3bfb1;">contribs)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Leevanjackson-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z-Subsections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leevanjackson-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z-Subsections"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leevanjackson-2009-10-28T11:00:00.000Z-Subsections"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(9)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Thank_heaven:_narrower" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_heaven:_narrower-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_heaven:_narrower-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z"></span>Thank heaven: narrower<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_heaven:_narrower-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Thank heaven: narrower" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-85' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tony1-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z-Thank_heaven:_narrower">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z-Thank_heaven:_narrower"></span>Thanks to Eubulides for removing the excess white space in the template. <a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;"><b>Tony</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tony1" title="User talk:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Tony1-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z-Thank_heaven:_narrower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:39, 12 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z-Thank_heaven:_narrower"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-2010-01-12T09:39:00.000Z-Thank_heaven:_narrower"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(10)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Adding_A_Missing_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_A_Missing_Page-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_A_Missing_Page-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z"></span>Adding A Missing Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_A_Missing_Page-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Adding A Missing Page" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-86' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Thesevenseas-2010-02-07T15:21:00.000Z-174.3.98.236-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> <p><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-174.3.98.236-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z-Adding_A_Missing_Page"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Editsemiprotected" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Editsemiprotected">editsemiprotected</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> </p><p>Add </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:When_to_use_tables" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:When to use tables">Tables</a></li></ul> <p>It has the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Style-guideline" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Style-guideline">style-guideline</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> warning.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.3.98.236" title="Special:Contributions/174.3.98.236">174.3.98.236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:174.3.98.236" title="User talk:174.3.98.236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-174.3.98.236-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z-Adding_A_Missing_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-174.3.98.236-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z-Adding_A_Missing_Page"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Thesevenseas-2010-02-07T15:21:00.000Z-174.3.98.236-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thesevenseas-2010-02-07T15:21:00.000Z-174.3.98.236-2010-02-07T04:23:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Gnevin-2010-05-09T12:27:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gnevin/sandbox6&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gnevin/sandbox6 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z-Proposed_replacement"></span>User:Gnevin/sandbox6</a>. Thoughts ? <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z-Proposed_replacement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z-Proposed_replacement"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z-Proposed_replacement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z"></span>Would you describe the changes you have made? — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-26T17:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2010-05-09T12:27:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z"></span>This has been live for a while without objection so it probably safe to say this is acceptable. Basically I replace links to the individual MoS to the Categories as you see it now <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Gnevin-2010-05-09T12:27:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2010-05-09T12:27:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2010-05-09T12:27:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-04-27T18:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(12)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Manual_of_Style_(film)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Manual_of_Style_(film)-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z"><span id="Manual_of_Style_.28film.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Manual_of_Style_(film)-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z"></span>Manual of Style (film)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Manual_of_Style_(film)-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Manual of Style (film)" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-88' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Almogo-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z-Manual_of_Style_(film)">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-12 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-12"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Almogo-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z-Manual_of_Style_(film)"></span>Is there a reason why <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOSFILM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOSFILM">WP:MOSFILM</a> is not included in the template? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Almogo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Almogo (page does not exist)">Almogo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Almogo" title="User talk:Almogo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Almogo-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z-Manual_of_Style_(film)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Almogo-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z-Manual_of_Style_(film)"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Almogo-2011-01-09T16:31:00.000Z-Manual_of_Style_(film)"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(13)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Small_change" data-mw-thread-id="h-Small_change-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Small_change-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z"></span>Small change<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Small_change-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Small change" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-89' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Boy.pockets-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z-Small_change">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-13 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-13"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boy.pockets-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z-Small_change"></span>Change the text in the button from 'Search the MoS' to 'Search the Manual'. Just to avoid the acronym. cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Boy.pockets" title="User:Boy.pockets">Boy.pockets</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boy.pockets" title="User talk:Boy.pockets">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Boy.pockets-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z-Small_change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boy.pockets-2011-03-31T10:59:00.000Z-Small_change"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_request_from_Midager,_2_June_2011-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Edit request from Midager, 2 June 2011" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-90' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-GaneshBhakt-2011-06-02T10:34:00.000Z-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-14 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-14"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_Midager,_2_June_2011"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 30px;height: 30px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="30" data-height="30" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I have a picture of Dave Keon. How do I insert it. </p><p><br> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Midager&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Midager (page does not exist)">Midager</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Midager&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Midager (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_Midager,_2_June_2011" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 2 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_Midager,_2_June_2011"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_Midager,_2_June_2011"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GaneshBhakt-2011-06-02T10:34:00.000Z-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/18px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="21" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 21px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/18px-X_mark.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="18" data-height="21" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/27px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/36px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span> <b>Not done</b></span> Sorry Midager. Template:Style does not require a photo of <a href="/wiki/Dave_Keon" title="Dave Keon">Dave Keon</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:GaneshBhakt" class="mw-redirect" title="User:GaneshBhakt">GaneshBhakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GaneshBhakt" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GaneshBhakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-GaneshBhakt-2011-06-02T10:34:00.000Z-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GaneshBhakt-2011-06-02T10:34:00.000Z-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GaneshBhakt-2011-06-02T10:34:00.000Z-Midager-2011-06-02T09:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(15)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z"><span id="Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>Enhance NavBox to include more links?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Enhance NavBox to include more links?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-91' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:24:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-15 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-15"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?"></span>There is a discussion <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#RFC:_Should_all_subsidiary_pages_of_the_Manual_of_Style_be_made_subpages_of_WP:MOS.3F" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style">in MOS Talk page</a> regarding ways to improve searching/indexing for the many Manual Of Style (MOS) pages in WP. It seems to me that this template <a href="/wiki/Template:Style" title="Template:Style">Template:Style</a> could be vastly improved: in addition to pointing the reader to the MOS categories (which this template already does) it could also list all the important of the MOS-related articles. The key goal is to help readers quickly find MOS-related articles, and help them save time so they dont have to visit the categories, etc. Putting the important MOS articles directly in the NavBox will help readers quickly and directly find the info they need. I'm willing to improve the template in that manner, but I welcome comments. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z-Enhance_NavBox_to_include_more_links?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>It looks like this template used to have a fairly comprehensive list of MOS articles: here is a version from 2009 <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Style&oldid=263991480">here</a> which contains specific articles. The layout is not very clean, but at least users could get to the MOS pages in a single click. I don't see a discussion above in this Talk page that explains why the articles were removed from the template. I'm proposing to improve the template to be the best of both worlds: Maintain the current category-oriented hierarchy, but also include many of the important MOS pages, so users can get to their destination in one click. I dont suggest using the 2008-2009 layout, but instead something more concise and user-friendly. Of course, if the template gets too large, the use of collapsible Show/Hide subsections would be employed. Thoughts? --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:24:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z"></span>There are lots of great NavBoxes out there to use as examples, but here is one that is rather user-friendly, and fits quite a few articles in a compact space: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:WorldWarIISegmentUnderInfoBox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:WorldWarIISegmentUnderInfoBox (page does not exist)">Template:WorldWarIISegmentUnderInfoBox</a>. Notice two features: (a) the use of Show/Hide section; and (b) the hierarchical layout. Both of which could be used in this MOS template. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:24:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:24:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:24:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-16T18:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(16)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Draft_navbox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft_navbox-2011-06-16T21:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft_navbox-2011-06-16T21:29:00.000Z"></span>Draft navbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft_navbox-2011-06-16T21:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Draft navbox" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-92' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:57:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>17 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-16 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-16"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T21:29:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span>Here is a draft of a proposed improvement: <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Style/draft_A" title="Template talk:Style/draft A">Template talk:Style/draft A</a>: --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-16T21:29:00.000Z-Draft_navbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-16T21:29:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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font-size: 86%;"><tbody><tr><th class="sidebar-title"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style">Manual of Style</a> <div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox mw-inputbox-form-inline" action="/wiki/Special:Search"><div class="cdx-text-input"><input class="mw-searchInput searchboxInput cdx-text-input__input" name="search" placeholder="" size="24" dir="ltr"></div><input type="hidden" value="Wikipedia:Manual of Style" name="prefix"> <input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Search the MoS" class="cdx-button"><input type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"></form></div></th></tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(arts)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (arts)">Arts</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(music)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (music)">Music</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(anime-_and_manga-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)">Anime & Manga</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(comics)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (comics)">Comics</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(film)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (film)">Film</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Lyrics_and_poetry" title="Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry">Lyrics and Poetry</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(novels)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (novels)">Novels</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(television)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (television)">Television</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(visual_arts)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (visual arts)">Visual arts</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(writing_about_fiction)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)">Writing about fiction</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)">Music</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music_samples)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music samples)">Samples</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(record_charts)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (record charts)">Record charts</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(content)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (content)">Content</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(accessibility)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (accessibility)">Accessibility</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)">Biographies</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(linking)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking)">Linking</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(self-references_to_avoid)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (self-references to avoid)">Self-references</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(words_to_watch)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (words to watch)">Words to watch</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(article_message_boxes)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (article message boxes)">Article message boxes</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(disambiguation_pages)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)">Disambiguation pages</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(infoboxes)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)">Infoboxes</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(formatting)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (formatting)">Formatting</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(abbreviations)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations)">Abbreviations</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(capital_letters)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)">Capitalization</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)">Dates and numbers</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(pronunciation)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (pronunciation)">Pronounciation</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(proper_names)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (proper names)">Proper names</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(spelling)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling)">Spelling</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(text_formatting)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)">Text formatting</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(titles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles)">Titles</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(images)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (images)">Images</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(captions)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (captions)">Captions</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(icons)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (icons)">Icons</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(layout)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (layout)">Layout</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(lists)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (lists)">Lists</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(footnotes)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (footnotes)">Footnotes</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(layout)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (layout)">Layout</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(lead_section)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lead section)">Lead section</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(tables)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (tables)">Tables</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(trivia_sections)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trivia sections)">Trivia sections</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(embedded_lists)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (embedded lists)">Embedded lists</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(lists_of_works)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)">Lists of works</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(lists)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists)">Lists</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(road_junction_lists)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (road junction lists)">Road junctions</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(legal)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (legal)">Legal</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(legal)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (legal)">Legal</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(trademarks)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks)">Trademarks</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(regional)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (regional)">Regional</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Canada-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Canada-related articles)">Canada</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(France_%26_French-related)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (France & French-related)">France</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Hawaii-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Hawaii-related articles)">Hawaii</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Ireland-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Ireland-related articles)">Ireland</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)">Japan</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Philippine-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Philippine-related articles)">Philippine</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Poland-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Poland-related articles)">Poland</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(religion)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (religion)">Religion</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Islam-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Islam-related articles)">Islam</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Latter_Day_Saints)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)">Latter-day Saints</a></td> </tr><tr><th class="sidebar-heading"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(science)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (science)">Science</a></th></tr><tr><td class="sidebar-content"> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(chemistry)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (chemistry)">Chemistry</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(mathematics)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (mathematics)">Mathematics</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(medicine-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (medicine-related articles)">Medicine</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(command-line_examples)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (command-line examples)">Computer commands</a> • <a href="/wiki/Template:Taxobox/doc" title="Template:Taxobox/doc">Taxonomy</a> </p> <div class="navbar plainlinks hlist" style="float:right"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:Style" title="Template:Style"><span title="View this template">view</span></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span title="Discuss this template">talk</span></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:Style" title="Special:EditPage/Template:Style"><span title="Edit this template">edit</span></a></li></ul></div></td> </tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd>I propose to replace the current template with this new template in a few days. If anyone has any suggestions, speak up. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z-Draft_navbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z"></span>To difficult to maintain which is why I moved to the current category based system . It is also to busy , too many links <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 21 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-17T16:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z"></span>Maintainability is not an issue: there are many editors, including myself, willing to maintain it. You say it is "too busy", yet it is comparable to scores of other NavBoxes throughout WP, both in size and number of articles it holds. The current MOS navBox is rather odd: it contains only links to categories ... there are no other examples of such category-oriented NavBoxes within WP. Instead, the MOS NavBox should be consistent with the hundreds of other WP navboxes, and contain links to pages, not categories. There are hundreds of topics in WP that are indexed by <i>both</i> categories and article-oriented NavBoxes ... MOS indexing should be no different. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2011-06-21T23:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z"></span>The number of links will depend on the outcome of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:MOS#Subpage_structure_for_the_Manual_of_Style:_implementation" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:MOS">the present discussion on reorganizing subpages</a>. So I don't know how you can list them all now. You're "willing to maintain it"? How? By listing each category every n weeks for years to come, to see if anything has been added? <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:51:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z"></span>Art: The discussion at the MOS talk page revolves around converting pages to subpages, not renaming them. Questions: What makes you think this sidebar template will be harder to maintain than any other sidebar in WP? Of the hundreds of sidebar templates in WP, can you name one that lists categories, rather than articles/pages? Why should this sidebar navbox be different? Please refer to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates" title="Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates">Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates</a> which says: <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><i>The grouping of articles by one method neither requires nor forbids the use of the other methods for the same informational grouping. Instead, each method of organizing information has its own advantages and disadvantages, and is applied for the most part independently of the other methods following the guidelines and standards that have evolved on Wikipedia for each of these systems.Accordingly, these methods should not be considered in conflict with each other. Rather, they are synergistic, each one complementing the others. </i> <dl><dd><dl><dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:51:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:51:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:51:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T01:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:58:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span>If the size is the major objection, a compromise would be to have a Show/Hide choice next to each section, as is shown in "draft B": <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Style/draft_B" title="Template talk:Style/draft B">Template talk:Style/draft B</a> (shown at right). That way the navbox would initially be small (as it currently is) but users could expand by clicking the Show button. And the Navbox would then be consistent with the other WP navboxes, by listing articles/pages. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:58:00.000Z-Draft_navbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:58:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-24T01:58:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span> </p> <table class="infobox" style="text-align:center; 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border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; font-size: 95%;"> <div style="line-height: 1.6em; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;font-size: 120%; background: Lavender;"> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(arts)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (arts)">Arts</a></div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content" style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;"> <table width="100%" style="text-align:center;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="white-space: nowrap;"> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(anime-_and_manga-related_articles)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)">Anime & Manga</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(comics)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (comics)">Comics</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(film)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (film)">Film</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Lyrics_and_poetry" title="Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry">Lyrics and Poetry</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(novels)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (novels)">Novels</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(television)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (television)">Television</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(visual_arts)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (visual arts)">Visual arts</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(writing_about_fiction)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)">Writing about fiction</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </div> </div> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="text-align: center; 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padding: 4px; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; font-size: 95%;"> <div style="line-height: 1.6em; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;font-size: 120%; background: Lavender;"> Related guidelines </div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content" style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;"> <table width="100%" style="text-align:center;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="white-space: nowrap;"> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_size" title="Wikipedia:Article size">Article size</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles" title="Wikipedia:Article titles">Article titles</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates" title="Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates">Categories, lists, and navigation templates</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">Categorization</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_namespace" title="Wikipedia:Template namespace">Template namespace</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Hatnote" title="Wikipedia:Hatnote">Hatnotes</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">Signatures</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">Talk page guidelines</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Subpages" title="Wikipedia:Subpages">Subpages</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">User pages</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </div> </div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239400231"><div class="navbar plainlinks hlist" style="float:right"><ul><li class="nv-view"><a href="/wiki/Template:Style" title="Template:Style"><span title="View this template">view</span></a></li><li class="nv-talk"><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span title="Discuss this template">talk</span></a></li><li class="nv-edit"><a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Template:Style" title="Special:EditPage/Template:Style"><span title="Edit this template">edit</span></a></li></ul></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:MOS#Resources_for_this_RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:MOS">WT:MOS#Resources for this RFC</a> lists 82 subpages and candidate subpages. Your template only lists 55. Of course we can expect changes in the list to result from that discussion. The discussion at the MOS talk page <i>started</i> with converting pages to subpages, but now it says: "contain the unexamined and disorderly proliferation of guidelines ... pages can be merged (mutually, or into WP:MOS); or that some can be abandoned."</dd> <dd>I don't have a good answer for "What makes [me] think this sidebar template will be harder to maintain than any other sidebar in WP?", except that Manual of Style regulars seem completely unaware of obscure subpages. I don't understand why you included the quote, which says that the grouping of articles in one system (like the existing Style template) doesn't have to match the grouping of articles on other pages – to me, that quote argues against your own conclusion. <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z-Draft_navbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z"></span>The current category-based system is not intuitive. Most people expect that the links are going to link to individual pages, not categories, so if the pages aren't listed explicitly, most people are going to just assume they don't exist. This proposal is an improvement, in my opinion. <a href="/wiki/User:Kaldari" title="User:Kaldari">Kaldari</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaldari" title="User talk:Kaldari">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-24T02:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z"></span>@Art: I'm sorry, I dont follow what you are saying. There are hundreds of Sidbar Navboxes throughout WP that contain articles/pages (not categories). <b>The current Style navbox is the only Navbox within WP that is violating that convention.</b> The quote from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates" title="Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates">Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates</a> makes it clear that a Navbox is an <i>independent</i> from Categories. If a user wants to search for MOS articles via Categories, the user should scroll to the bottom of a MOS article, and click on the "Category: MOS" link at the bottom ... that is how Categories work. Navboxes in the upper right always list articles/pages, not categories. It is not clear to me why you repeatedly bring up the possibility that the list of MOS pages may change over time: of course it will. But that is true of all WP articles, pages, and Navboxes, and is not a reason to deviate from the Navbox convention. Your statistic about "82 pages" is very misleading: only 57 pages are valid (the other 25 are proposed or obsolete). Also: what do you think of the "show/hide" proposal: where the main dividing bars are the existing Category links, and the user can click "show" to see the articles/pages in that topic (shown above)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 25 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z-Kaldari-2011-06-24T21:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z"></span>I don't (or no longer) disagree much with any of that. Yes, a close reading of your quote in context says what you say it says (although ironically it could also be used to justify "the only Navbox within WP that is violating that convention"). "It is not clear to me why you repeatedly bring up the possibility"; true, that's why I said I don't have a good answer. Yes, when I looked through the list of 25 articles, most are inactive, historical, proposals or drafts (but not all of them; Islam, for instance, is included in your own list.) Show/hide – do other navboxes work that way? As a practical matter, the existing Style template makes me click more than one category, because that is faster than meditating on whether the issue I have in mind is best defined as "content", "formatting", or "layout". So just seeing those headings without the subpages doesn't help me much. The "Search the MOS" field on top is preferable to the bottom; I have often argued that the entire page should direct attention to that field, with almost all distractions moved elsewhere. But it does seem likely that the other subpage discussion will produce its own means of searching them, so I think the two discussions should be brought together. <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-25T19:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z"></span>Following your suggestion, I moved the Search field from the bottom to top in draft B of the Navbox. Regarding the situation where a user is hunting for a MOS guideline, but doesnt know which topic area it is in: Say the it takes 3 tries at subtopics before the user finds the correct guideline. In the current category-oriented NavBox, that is six clicks to get to the guidline (topic A; back; topic B; back; topic C; select). Draft A (which shows all the pages without show/hide) takes only a single click. Draft B (show/hide) takes four clicks (topic A show; topic B show; topic C show; select). Thus, both draft A and draft B are superior to the current Navbox, click-wise. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z-Art_LaPella-2011-06-26T17:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-27T01:54:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"></span>Correct, especially since "show" clicks are faster than wikilink clicks. <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-27T01:54:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-27T01:54:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-27T01:54:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span>Not seeing any additional feedback, I've moved "draft B" into the public template. More feedback and ideas are always useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z-Draft_navbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z-Draft_navbox"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z"></span>Noleander, let me say how much I appreciate your work on this issue – and also your attention to the related matter of restructuring the Manual of Style. The RFC proposal for that has been successful (21 votes to 2), and I think early discussion between you and me did something to fill in the gaps and to show up the desirability of that change. I remain sympathetic to your proposal here: a more detailed "signpost" would be great. But there are sore and sensitive disagreements affecting the Manual just now (as you can see from recent sections at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:MOS">WT:MOS</a>), and we have to sequence things methodically to make things go well. I want to develop a schedule for implementing the restructure. I see no reason to exclude the template reform that you are advocating from that schedule; but I do think it belongs <i>after</i> the restructuring effort, as Art LaPella appears to suggest above.</dd> <dd>Let's collaborate on all this. I hope you will join in at WT:MOS as we all work out what steps to take, and what order to take them in. I hope that Art will be active in that also; I think he is a serious advocate of simplicity and retrievability for the guidelines.</dd> <dd><span style="color:blue;"><big>N</big><small>oetica</small></span><sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noetica" title="User talk:Noetica">Tea?</a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:53:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z"></span>I don't believe any of us wants to go back to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Style&oldid=404341332">the old template</a>. So I suggest we regard this template change as complete. We can change it again to accommodate the restructuring effort, if any. <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:53:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:53:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:53:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:57:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z"></span>As for my contribution to the restructuring effort, I once asked why it really matters how we name the articles. The rest of you seem to have that answer better than I do, so I consider it a good time to watch. <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:57:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:57:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-07-06T20:57:00.000Z-Noetica-2011-07-06T09:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(17)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z"><span id="Section_links:_to_page.3F_or_to_category.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Section links: to page? or to category?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Section links: to page? or to category?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-93' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-29T22:53:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-17 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-17"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?"></span>An aspect of this navbox that may confuse some users is when a section, such as "Music", (which has a Category) <i>also</i> has a dedicated "Music" page. When a user clicks on the "Music" section link, where should the user be vectored: to the <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(music)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (music)">MOS Music category</a>? or to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(music)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)">MOS-Music page</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Noleander" title="User:Noleander">Noleander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noleander" title="User talk:Noleander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?"><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z-Section_links:_to_page?_or_to_category?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-29T22:53:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z"></span>I think the only answer is the category. Most of the categories don't have that problem, so a user familiar with the other links will be expecting links to categories. If a person clicks "Music" because he is looking for the dedicated Music page, he will quickly see "Music" among his choices. But if a person is looking for the music samples page, clicks "Music", and is sent to the dedicated "Music" page, he will be much more seriously lost. <a href="/wiki/User:Art_LaPella" title="User:Art LaPella">Art LaPella</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Art_LaPella" title="User talk:Art LaPella">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-29T22:53:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-29T22:53:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Art_LaPella-2011-06-29T22:53:00.000Z-Noleander-2011-06-29T18:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(18)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Specific_Geographic_naming_issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z"></span>Specific Geographic naming issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Specific Geographic naming issues" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-94' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Martinvl-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-18 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-18"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinvl-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues"></span>The page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)">Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)</a> has a long list of country-specific issues regarding names. Most of these are too short to warrant their own pages, but should nevertheless be included within <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a> in one way or another. I have taken the bull by the horns and added them to the Regional section of this list. I trust that this is in order. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinvl" title="User:Martinvl">Martinvl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinvl" title="User talk:Martinvl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Martinvl-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinvl-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinvl-2013-09-06T09:12:00.000Z-Specific_Geographic_naming_issues"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(19)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Move-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Move-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Move-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Move" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-95' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Frietjes-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z-Move">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-19 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-19"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frietjes-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z-Move"></span>can we move this to <a href="/wiki/Template:Manual_of_Style" title="Template:Manual of Style">template:Manual of Style</a>? I have been cleaning up <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Style&namespace=0&limit=500">transclusions in article space</a> for several hours today. most of them are from {} typos like <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WNBL_Ladder&diff=prev&oldid=575595399">this one</a>, but some are from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Universities_Congress&diff=575606932&oldid=545987298">confusion with maintenance tags</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Frietjes" title="User:Frietjes">Frietjes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frietjes" title="User talk:Frietjes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Frietjes-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z-Move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frietjes-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z-Move"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frietjes-2013-10-03T17:21:00.000Z-Move"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(20)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='Parameter_"expanded"' data-mw-thread-id='h-Parameter_"expanded"-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z'><span id="Parameter_.22expanded.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Parameter_"expanded"-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z'></span>Parameter "expanded"<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Parameter_"expanded"-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=21" title='Edit section: Parameter "expanded"' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-96' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Corphine-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z-Parameter_"expanded"">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-20 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-20"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Corphine-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z-Parameter_"expanded"'></span>What should I do if I want to expand more than one section? <a href="/wiki/User:Corphine" title="User:Corphine">Corphine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Corphine" title="User talk:Corphine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Corphine-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z-Parameter_%22expanded%22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Corphine-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z-Parameter_"expanded"'><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Corphine-2013-11-28T07:46:00.000Z-Parameter_"expanded"'></span> </p><p><br> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(21)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Requested_move_18_June_2014" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_18_June_2014-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_18_June_2014-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 18 June 2014<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_18_June_2014-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Requested move 18 June 2014" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-97' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-EdJohnston-2014-07-04T22:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>11 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-21 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-21"> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EdJohnston-2014-07-04T22:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014"></span>The following discussion is an archived discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>No consensus.</b> <a href="/wiki/User:EdJohnston" title="User:EdJohnston">EdJohnston</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EdJohnston" title="User talk:EdJohnston">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-EdJohnston-2014-07-04T22:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EdJohnston-2014-07-04T22:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014"><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EdJohnston-2014-07-04T22:36:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014"></span> </p> <hr> <p><br> <a href="/wiki/Template:Style" title="Template:Style"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014"></span>Template:Style</a> → ? – "Style" alone too general. <a href="/wiki/User:Sardanaphalus" title="User:Sardanaphalus">Sardanaphalus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sardanaphalus" title="User talk:Sardanaphalus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_18_June_2014"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Survey-Requested_move_18_June_2014-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Survey-Requested_move_18_June_2014-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z"></span>Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Survey-Requested_move_18_June_2014-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Survey" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z-Survey"></span>Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with</i> <code>*'''Support'''</code> <i>or</i> <code>*'''Oppose'''</code><i>, then sign your comment with</i> <code>~~~~</code><i>. Since <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Polling_is_not_a_substitute_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion">polling is not a substitute for discussion</a>, please explain your reasons, taking into account <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles" title="Wikipedia:Article titles">Wikipedia's policy on article titles</a>.</i></dd></dl> <ul><li><b>Suggest <a href="/wiki/Template:MoS_sidebar" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:MoS sidebar">Template:MoS sidebar</a> or <a href="/wiki/Template:Manual_of_Style_sidebar" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Manual of Style sidebar">Template:Manual of Style sidebar</a> with</b> <a href="/wiki/Template:MoS_sidebar" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:MoS sidebar">Template:MoS sidebar</a> as a shorter version that redirects. <a href="/wiki/User:Sardanaphalus" title="User:Sardanaphalus">Sardanaphalus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sardanaphalus" title="User talk:Sardanaphalus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z-Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z-Survey"><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-18T09:40:00.000Z-Survey"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z-Survey"></span>Rename to</b> <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:WPMOS_sidebar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:WPMOS sidebar (page does not exist)">WPMOS sidebar</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a> ; and to not occupy a location potentially usable in articles about various manuals of style. The current <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Style" title="Template:Style">style</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> should redirect to the cleanup message <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Tone" title="Template:Tone">tone</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> after this is moved and all tranclusions replaced. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126">65.94.171.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.126" title="User talk:65.94.171.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z-Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z-Survey"><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z-Survey"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z"></span>"WP:MOS" and "WPMOS" are already shortcuts/abbreviations, so how about <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_sidebar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Wikipedia Manual of Style sidebar (page does not exist)">Wikipedia Manual of Style sidebar</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> as the page name with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:WPMOS_sidebar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:WPMOS sidebar (page does not exist)">WPMOS sidebar</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and/or variations as the shortcut/s used to transclude it? <a href="/wiki/User:Sardanaphalus" title="User:Sardanaphalus">Sardanaphalus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sardanaphalus" title="User talk:Sardanaphalus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-18T11:00:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-24T06:27:00.000Z-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z"></span>{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_sidebar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Wikipedia Manual of Style sidebar (page does not exist)">Wikipedia Manual of Style sidebar</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is fine by me -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126">65.94.171.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.126" title="User talk:65.94.171.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-24T06:27:00.000Z-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-24T06:27:00.000Z-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-24T06:27:00.000Z-Sardanaphalus-2014-06-23T15:41:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z-Survey"></span>Comment</b>. Pointless. Has a single person ever misused this template thinking it was for something else? Solution in search of a problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Jenks24" title="User:Jenks24">Jenks24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenks24" title="User talk:Jenks24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z-Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z-Survey"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z-Survey"></span> <ul><li><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Tone" title="Template:Tone">tone</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> would seem to be definitely confusable with the name of this template. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126">65.94.171.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.126" title="User talk:65.94.171.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:07, 30 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-06-29T12:40:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Again, I think that is looking for a problem that isn't really there. If you can show me one example of this template being confused with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Tone" title="Template:Tone">tone</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> I'll change to support. <a href="/wiki/User:Jenks24" title="User:Jenks24">Jenks24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenks24" title="User talk:Jenks24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-06-30T05:07:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z"></span>The very text of the template <i>This article's tone or <b>style</b> may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia</i> would indicate that this should be the preferred usage for "style". How'd you go about searching for prior transclusions of this template for errors of cleanup template attachment? -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126">65.94.171.126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.171.126" title="User talk:65.94.171.126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 3 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z-Jenks24-2014-07-01T14:45:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenks24-2014-07-03T14:23:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z"></span>I fail to see why anyone reading that would somehow think the template is called "Template:Style". Not sure how you would go about it, but surely if it was a real problem there would be plenty of examples. <a href="/wiki/User:Jenks24" title="User:Jenks24">Jenks24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenks24" title="User talk:Jenks24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Jenks24-2014-07-03T14:23:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenks24-2014-07-03T14:23:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenks24-2014-07-03T14:23:00.000Z-65.94.171.126-2014-07-03T06:31:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_2-Requested_move_18_June_2014"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_2-Requested_move_18_June_2014"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_2-Requested_move_18_June_2014"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Discussion" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <dl><dd><i>Any additional comments:</i></dd></dl> <hr> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(22)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="WikiProject_Computer_science" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Computer_science-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Computer_science-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Computer science<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Computer_science-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: WikiProject Computer science" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-98' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Volteer1-2021-03-22T14:59:00.000Z-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z">3 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-22 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-22"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z-WikiProject_Computer_science"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 30px;height: 30px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="30" data-height="30" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computer_science/Manual_of_style" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science/Manual of style">Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science/Manual of style</a> should probably be removed as it is not part of the MOS. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/207.161.86.162" title="Special:Contributions/207.161.86.162">207.161.86.162</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:207.161.86.162" title="User talk:207.161.86.162">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z-WikiProject_Computer_science" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 22 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z-WikiProject_Computer_science"><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z-WikiProject_Computer_science"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Volteer1-2021-03-22T14:59:00.000Z-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 20px;height: 20px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="20" data-height="20" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span> <b>Done</b>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Volteer1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Volteer1 (page does not exist)">Volteer1</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Volteer1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Volteer1 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Volteer1-2021-03-22T14:59:00.000Z-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Volteer1-2021-03-22T14:59:00.000Z-207.161.86.162-2021-03-22T04:43:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-99' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20230329052900-Editsummary">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-23 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-23"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20230329052900-Editsummary"></span>Hi there, </p><p>I worked on making the MoS templates (Template:style + template:manual of style)match each other in terms of what they contained. They should now each contain all of the links that the other contain, and that the respective MoS categories contain. </p><p>I did not, however, alphabetize the lists, determine notability of certain WikiProject guidelines in the categories, or add some of the pages from the MoS sports categories to the templates. </p><p>Let me know if any changes need to be made or if I was too WP:BOLD! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20230329052900-Editsummary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20230329052900-Editsummary"><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20230329052900-Editsummary"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(24)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?-20240912154600"><span id="Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?-20240912154600"></span>Put noinclude around the deletion announcement?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?-20240912154600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Style&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Put noinclude around the deletion announcement?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-100' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164400-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164300">2 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-24 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-24"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Largoplazo-20240912154600-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"></span>Shouldn't there be a <noinclude></noinclude> around the deletion notification? Right now the notification appears on pages that transclude this template. <a href="/wiki/User:Largoplazo" title="User:Largoplazo">Largoplazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Largoplazo" title="User talk:Largoplazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Largoplazo-20240912154600-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Largoplazo-20240912154600-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Largoplazo-20240912154600-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164300-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"></span>Done :) Do you know how to edit the editnotices on a page? I tried but I don't think it worked. I would be open to that as an alternative to merging the templates <a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164300-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164300-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164300-Put_noinclude_around_the_deletion_announcement?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164400-JuxtaposedJacob-20240912164300"></span>Forgot to ping @<a href="/wiki/User:Largoplazo" title="User:Largoplazo">Largoplazo</a>.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240927210700-Praemonitus-20240927200900">1 month ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-25 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-25"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Praemonitus-20240924173200-Proposed_astronomy_MoS"></span>We have put together a proposed MoS article for the subject of astronomy, located here: <a href="/w/index.php?title=MOS:ASTRO&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="MOS:ASTRO (page does not exist)">MOS:ASTRO</a>. Is there an approval process that needs to be followed to have it be included on the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Style" title="Template:Style">Style</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template? I.e. to have it added to the 'By topic area' under 'Science'. I just want to understand the steps. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Praemonitus" title="User:Praemonitus">Praemonitus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Praemonitus" title="User talk:Praemonitus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Praemonitus-20240924173200-Proposed_astronomy_MoS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Praemonitus-20240924173200-Proposed_astronomy_MoS"><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Praemonitus-20240924173200-Proposed_astronomy_MoS"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900-Praemonitus-20240924173200"></span>Not sure, but if there is an approval process and yours gets approved, make sure to update <a href="/wiki/Template:Manual_of_Style" title="Template:Manual of Style">Template:Manual of Style</a> as well.</dd> <dd>Thanks,</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900-Praemonitus-20240924173200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900-Praemonitus-20240924173200"><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900-Praemonitus-20240924173200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Praemonitus-20240927200900-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900"></span>Okay, thanks. I'll try another location. <a href="/wiki/User:Praemonitus" title="User:Praemonitus">Praemonitus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Praemonitus" title="User talk:Praemonitus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Style#c-Praemonitus-20240927200900-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Praemonitus-20240927200900-JuxtaposedJacob-20240924190900"><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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