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href="/wiki/Ian_Livingstone" title="Ian Livingstone">Ian Livingstone</a> and published by <a href="/wiki/Routledge_%26_Kegan_Paul" class="mw-redirect" title="Routledge &amp; Kegan Paul">Routledge &amp; Kegan Paul</a> in 1982 that explains what role-playing games are. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Contents">Contents</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Contents"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><i>Dicing with Dragons</i> is an introduction to the then-new world of role-playing games.<sup id="cite_ref-WD38_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-WD38-1"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> Livingstone explains how role-playing games work, and includes a solo adventure, "Eye of the Dragon", as an example. Livingstone then details the major role-playing systems that dominated the market in 1982: </p> <ul><li><i><a href="/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" title="Dungeons &amp; Dragons">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a></i></li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/RuneQuest" title="RuneQuest">RuneQuest</a></i></li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Traveller_(role-playing_game)" title="Traveller (role-playing game)">Traveller</a></i></li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Tunnels_%26_Trolls" title="Tunnels &amp; Trolls">Tunnels &amp; Trolls</a></i></li></ul> <p>He also briefly describes 31 other role-playing games, including <i><a href="/wiki/Boot_Hill_(role-playing_game)" title="Boot Hill (role-playing game)">Boot Hill</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Bushido_(role-playing_game)" title="Bushido (role-playing game)">Bushido</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Call_of_Cthulhu_(role-playing_game)" title="Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game)">Call of Cthulhu</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Gamma_World" title="Gamma World">Gamma World</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Gangbusters_(role-playing_game)" title="Gangbusters (role-playing game)">Gangbusters</a></i>, and <i><a href="/wiki/Top_Secret" class="mw-redirect" title="Top Secret">Top Secret</a></i>. </p><p>There are also chapters on: </p> <ul><li>Accessories, including summaries of adventures for the role-playing games previously mentioned, and magazines and <a href="/wiki/Fanzines" class="mw-redirect" title="Fanzines">fanzines</a> specializing in role-playing games</li> <li>How to paint miniature figures</li> <li>How to be a <a href="/wiki/Gamemaster" title="Gamemaster">gamemaster</a></li> <li>Computer systems and computer games that were available in 1982</li> <li>Descriptions of several live action games that would later evolve into <a href="/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_games" class="mw-redirect" title="Live action role-playing games">Live action role-playing games</a> (LARPs)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Publication_history">Publication history</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Publication history"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><i>Dicing with Dragons</i> was written by <a href="/wiki/Ian_Livingstone" title="Ian Livingstone">Ian Livingstone</a>, with illustrations by <a href="/wiki/Russ_Nicholson" title="Russ Nicholson">Russ Nicholson</a>, and was published by <a href="/wiki/Routledge_%26_Kegan_Paul" class="mw-redirect" title="Routledge &amp; Kegan Paul">Routledge &amp; Kegan Paul</a> (U.K.) and by the <a href="/wiki/New_American_Library" title="New American Library">New American Library</a> in 1983, with a 2nd U.S. edition by <a href="/wiki/Signet_Books" class="mw-redirect" title="Signet Books">Signet</a> in 1986.<sup id="cite_ref-HW_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-HW-2"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p><p>Geraldine Cooke, an editor at <a href="/wiki/Puffin_Books" title="Puffin Books">Puffin Books</a>, was looking to revive the firm's moribund science fiction, fantasy and horror collection. A friend told her about a new store in <a href="/wiki/Hammersmith" title="Hammersmith">Hammersmith</a> called <a href="/wiki/Games_Workshop" title="Games Workshop">Games Workshop</a> that specialized in role-playing games. After meeting with the owners, <a href="/wiki/Steve_Jackson_(British_game_designer)" title="Steve Jackson (British game designer)">Steve Jackson</a> and Ian Livingstone, she asked them to write a book exploring the role-playing industry. The book they gave her instead was an actual role-playing adventure called <i><a href="/wiki/Warlock_of_Firetop_Mountain" class="mw-redirect" title="Warlock of Firetop Mountain">Warlock of Firetop Mountain</a></i>, eventually published under the <a href="/wiki/Puffin_Books" title="Puffin Books">Puffin Books</a> imprint, the first of many very popular <i><a href="/wiki/Fighting_Fantasy" title="Fighting Fantasy">Fighting Fantasy</a></i> books.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p><p>Ian Livingstone did write the originally requested book about role-playing, <i>Dicing with Dragons</i>, but it was published in the U.K. by <a href="/wiki/Routledge_%26_Kegan_Paul" class="mw-redirect" title="Routledge &amp; Kegan Paul">Routledge &amp; Kegan Paul</a> in 1982, not Penguin. </p><p>The illustrations, almost all of them square, were created by <a href="/wiki/Russ_Nicholson" title="Russ Nicholson">Russ Nicholson</a>. The artist later explained that Jackson and Livingstone had requested the square format for <i>Warlock of Firetop Mountain</i>, and Livingstone wanted the same format used in this book.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p><p>In 1983, <i>Dicing with Dragons</i> was published in the United States by <a href="/wiki/Plume_(publisher)" title="Plume (publisher)">Plume</a>, an imprint of <a href="/wiki/New_American_Library" title="New American Library">New American Library</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p><p>In 1986, an Italian translation, <i>Giocare a dadi col drago</i>, was published by Milanese publisher <a href="/wiki/Longanesi" title="Longanesi">Longanesi</a>; the Italian edition included a new preface written by Giampaolo Dossena.<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Reception">Reception</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Reception"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>In the February 1983 edition of <i><a href="/wiki/White_Dwarf_(magazine)" title="White Dwarf (magazine)">White Dwarf</a></i> (Issue #38), <a href="/wiki/Marcus_L._Rowland" title="Marcus L. Rowland">M L Rowland</a> was impressed by <i>Dicing with Dragons</i>, calling it "probably the most complete summary of the role-playing hobby available, and well worth buying for its appendices alone." Rowland concluded with a strong recommendation, giving the book an excellent rating of 9 out of 10.<sup id="cite_ref-WD38_1-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-WD38-1"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p><p>In the April 1983 edition of <i><a href="/wiki/Imagine_(AD%26D_magazine)" class="mw-redirect" title="Imagine (AD&amp;D magazine)">Imagine</a></i> (Issue 1), <a href="/wiki/David_Pringle" title="David Pringle">Dave Pringle</a> commented that "In addition to covering all the familiar RPG ground, this book contains a useful chapter on computer games. Recommended."<sup id="cite_ref-Imagine1_7-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Imagine1-7"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p><p>In a 2014 retrospective review, <a href="/wiki/Pornokitsch" title="Pornokitsch">Pornokitsch</a> stated that "Livingstone's <i>Dicing with Dragons</i> is interesting <i>because</i> it is so dated – a peek at the formative years of role playing games."<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">&#91;</span>8<span class="cite-bracket">&#93;</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Reviews">Reviews</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Reviews"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Fantasy_Review" class="mw-redirect" title="Fantasy 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