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<a href="/wiki/Routledge_%26_Kegan_Paul" class="mw-redirect" title="Routledge & Kegan Paul">Routledge & Kegan Paul</a> in 1982 that explains what role-playing games are. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Contents">Contents</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Contents"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><i>Dicing with Dragons</i> is an introduction to the then-new world of role-playing games.<sup id="cite_ref-WD38_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-WD38-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> Livingstone explains how role-playing games work, and includes a solo adventure, "Eye of the Dragon", as an example. Livingstone then details the major role-playing systems that dominated the market in 1982: </p> <ul><li><i><a href="/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" title="Dungeons & Dragons">Dungeons & Dragons</a></i></li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/RuneQuest" title="RuneQuest">RuneQuest</a></i></li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Traveller_(role-playing_game)" title="Traveller (role-playing game)">Traveller</a></i></li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Tunnels_%26_Trolls" title="Tunnels & Trolls">Tunnels & Trolls</a></i></li></ul> <p>He also briefly describes 31 other role-playing games, including <i><a href="/wiki/Boot_Hill_(role-playing_game)" title="Boot Hill (role-playing game)">Boot Hill</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Bushido_(role-playing_game)" title="Bushido (role-playing game)">Bushido</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Call_of_Cthulhu_(role-playing_game)" title="Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game)">Call of Cthulhu</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Gamma_World" title="Gamma World">Gamma World</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Gangbusters_(role-playing_game)" title="Gangbusters (role-playing game)">Gangbusters</a></i>, and <i><a href="/wiki/Top_Secret" class="mw-redirect" title="Top Secret">Top Secret</a></i>. </p><p>There are also chapters on: </p> <ul><li>Accessories, including summaries of adventures for the role-playing games previously mentioned, and magazines and <a href="/wiki/Fanzines" class="mw-redirect" title="Fanzines">fanzines</a> specializing in role-playing games</li> <li>How to paint miniature figures</li> <li>How to be a <a href="/wiki/Gamemaster" title="Gamemaster">gamemaster</a></li> <li>Computer systems and computer games that were available in 1982</li> <li>Descriptions of several live action games that would later evolve into <a href="/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_games" class="mw-redirect" title="Live action role-playing games">Live action role-playing games</a> (LARPs)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Publication_history">Publication history</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Publication history"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><i>Dicing with Dragons</i> was written by <a href="/wiki/Ian_Livingstone" title="Ian Livingstone">Ian Livingstone</a>, with illustrations by <a href="/wiki/Russ_Nicholson" title="Russ Nicholson">Russ Nicholson</a>, and was published by <a href="/wiki/Routledge_%26_Kegan_Paul" class="mw-redirect" title="Routledge & Kegan Paul">Routledge & Kegan Paul</a> (U.K.) and by the <a href="/wiki/New_American_Library" title="New American Library">New American Library</a> in 1983, with a 2nd U.S. edition by <a href="/wiki/Signet_Books" class="mw-redirect" title="Signet Books">Signet</a> in 1986.<sup id="cite_ref-HW_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-HW-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>Geraldine Cooke, an editor at <a href="/wiki/Puffin_Books" title="Puffin Books">Puffin Books</a>, was looking to revive the firm's moribund science fiction, fantasy and horror collection. A friend told her about a new store in <a href="/wiki/Hammersmith" title="Hammersmith">Hammersmith</a> called <a href="/wiki/Games_Workshop" title="Games Workshop">Games Workshop</a> that specialized in role-playing games. After meeting with the owners, <a href="/wiki/Steve_Jackson_(British_game_designer)" title="Steve Jackson (British game designer)">Steve Jackson</a> and Ian Livingstone, she asked them to write a book exploring the role-playing industry. The book they gave her instead was an actual role-playing adventure called <i><a href="/wiki/Warlock_of_Firetop_Mountain" class="mw-redirect" title="Warlock of Firetop Mountain">Warlock of Firetop Mountain</a></i>, eventually published under the <a href="/wiki/Puffin_Books" title="Puffin Books">Puffin Books</a> imprint, the first of many very popular <i><a href="/wiki/Fighting_Fantasy" title="Fighting Fantasy">Fighting Fantasy</a></i> books.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>Ian Livingstone did write the originally requested book about role-playing, <i>Dicing with Dragons</i>, but it was published in the U.K. by <a href="/wiki/Routledge_%26_Kegan_Paul" class="mw-redirect" title="Routledge & Kegan Paul">Routledge & Kegan Paul</a> in 1982, not Penguin. </p><p>The illustrations, almost all of them square, were created by <a href="/wiki/Russ_Nicholson" title="Russ Nicholson">Russ Nicholson</a>. The artist later explained that Jackson and Livingstone had requested the square format for <i>Warlock of Firetop Mountain</i>, and Livingstone wanted the same format used in this book.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In 1983, <i>Dicing with Dragons</i> was published in the United States by <a href="/wiki/Plume_(publisher)" title="Plume (publisher)">Plume</a>, an imprint of <a href="/wiki/New_American_Library" title="New American Library">New American Library</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In 1986, an Italian translation, <i>Giocare a dadi col drago</i>, was published by Milanese publisher <a href="/wiki/Longanesi" title="Longanesi">Longanesi</a>; the Italian edition included a new preface written by Giampaolo Dossena.<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Reception">Reception</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Reception"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>In the February 1983 edition of <i><a href="/wiki/White_Dwarf_(magazine)" title="White Dwarf (magazine)">White Dwarf</a></i> (Issue #38), <a href="/wiki/Marcus_L._Rowland" title="Marcus L. Rowland">M L Rowland</a> was impressed by <i>Dicing with Dragons</i>, calling it "probably the most complete summary of the role-playing hobby available, and well worth buying for its appendices alone." Rowland concluded with a strong recommendation, giving the book an excellent rating of 9 out of 10.<sup id="cite_ref-WD38_1-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-WD38-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In the April 1983 edition of <i><a href="/wiki/Imagine_(AD%26D_magazine)" class="mw-redirect" title="Imagine (AD&D magazine)">Imagine</a></i> (Issue 1), <a href="/wiki/David_Pringle" title="David Pringle">Dave Pringle</a> commented that "In addition to covering all the familiar RPG ground, this book contains a useful chapter on computer games. Recommended."<sup id="cite_ref-Imagine1_7-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Imagine1-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In a 2014 retrospective review, <a href="/wiki/Pornokitsch" title="Pornokitsch">Pornokitsch</a> stated that "Livingstone's <i>Dicing with Dragons</i> is interesting <i>because</i> it is so dated – a peek at the formative years of role playing games."<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>8<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Reviews">Reviews</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Reviews"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Fantasy_Review" class="mw-redirect" title="Fantasy Review">Fantasy Review</a>, October 1984<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-9"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>9<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="References">References</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dicing_with_Dragons&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-WD38-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink">^ <a href="#cite_ref-WD38_1-0"><sup><i><b>a</b></i></sup></a> <a href="#cite_ref-WD38_1-1"><sup><i><b>b</b></i></sup></a></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFRowland1983" class="citation magazine cs1"><a href="/wiki/Marcus_L._Rowland" title="Marcus L. 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