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This movement has spawned a global attitude that has no <br />> > respect<br />> > for IP rights, and it's extended itself to no respect for human rights, <br />> > or any other rights<br />> > of the indivdual. That's the legacy this has left and the ultimate <br />> > conclusion.<br />> <br />> Less respect for IP rights - possibly. Perhaps that's a good thing though,<br />> some of us thinks such rights are a bit overrated.<br /><br />_Less_ respect? I'm sorry, no. Once I started working on free<br />software, I really started having raising respect for what you call<br />Intellectual Property. ...and also recognizing some special words:<br /><br />"patented" -- product will be extraordinary expensive and probably not<br /> any longer actively developed (like it would be if<br /> there was real competition).<br />"special" -- product will use parts and materials that are hard to<br /> obtain, hard to repair and probably expensive, too.<br /><br />"Intellectual Property" means to not do the very best for the<br />customers, but for the company. So if somebody fights for their IP to<br />be kept secret, that's just as good as writing "I'm selfish and only<br />want to get your money."<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />I try to share my IP to teaching people using free software, but also<br />doing some limited hardware soldering etc. Lots of fun, won't create<br />secret IP and will actually educate people to be creative instead of<br />consuming television...<br /><br />MfG, JBG<br /><br />-- <br />Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw@lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 _ O _<br />"Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O<br /> f眉r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B眉rger" | im Internet! | im Irak! 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