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I suspect that it is partly my fault that they have crept on here, because I added some red-links earlier in the year - having set myself the task of creating some pages for well-known brochs (now finally done). This clearly encouraged some other people to add some more red-links. This includes the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Broch_of_Houlland&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Broch of Houlland (page does not exist)">Broch of Houlland</a>. I'm not sure which broch that is meant to be, since the <a href="/wiki/RCAHMS" class="mw-redirect" title="RCAHMS">RCAHMS</a> lists two Shetland brochs by that name (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/498/details/loch+of+houlland+esha+ness/">[1]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/766/details/broch+of+houlland/">[2]</a>). I've also removed this long list of "Sutherland" brochs: </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Achcoillenaborgie_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Achcoillenaborgie Broch (page does not exist)">Achcoillenaborgie</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Allt_an_Duin_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Allt an Duin Broch (page does not exist)">Allt an Duin</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Coill%27_Ach_A%27_Chuill_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Coill' Ach A' Chuill Broch (page does not exist)">Coill' Ach A' Chuill</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dun_Carnachadh_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Dun Carnachadh Broch (page does not exist)">Dun Carnachadh</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dun_Chealamy_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Dun Chealamy Broch (page does not exist)">Dun Chealamy</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dun_Viden_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Dun Viden Broch (page does not exist)">Dun Viden</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Grumore_Broch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Grumore Broch (page does not exist)">Grumore</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Inshlampie_Broch" title="Inshlampie Broch">Inshlampie</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Langdale_Broch" title="Langdale Broch">Langdale</a></li></ul> <p>There are something like 500 brochs known, of which maybe 200 could have a page on Wikipedia. Most of them I guess are in Shetland, Orkney, and Caithness. It unbalances the template though to have random red links added to it - these red links have a tendency to hang around on templates for years and years, and nothing gets done. What we could do with on Wikipedia is a <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_brochs&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="List of brochs (page does not exist)">List of brochs</a>. Anyway, I've moved these links here for now, and if anyone wants to create a page for any of them they have my best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Pasicles" title="User:Pasicles">Pasicles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasicles" title="User talk:Pasicles">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Broch#c-Pasicles-2014-09-17T18:23:00.000Z-Removed_red_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 17 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pasicles-2014-09-17T18:23:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-09-17T18:23:00.000Z","author":"Pasicles","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pasicles-2014-09-17T18:23:00.000Z-Removed_red_links","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pasicles-2014-09-17T18:23:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"></span> Comment on removed red links Just to give you a heads up, we, Edinburgh Archaeology wikiclub, had placed most of those red-links in there for the same reason you did- setting ourselves the task to create articles for them. Understand the need to be tidy and what not. Just giving a heads up that we will be working on this for some time into the future so some more red-links might creep in but we fully intend to turn them into articles. <a href="/wiki/User:DougRM" title="User:DougRM">DougRM</a> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Broch#c-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z-Removed_red_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z","author":"DougRM","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z-Removed_red_links","replies":["c-Pasicles-2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pasicles-2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Oh I see, that explains it. I thought it was a bit odd that someone added a list of "Sutherland brochs". It would be nice to see these pages created, so don't let me put you off. Red links in templates tend to get frowned upon. Tell you what, I'll add "Caithness" and "Sutherland" as sub-categories of the "Highlands" part of the template, and if you or one of your colleagues wants to create pages on Sutherland brochs then there will be a sub-category to add them to. <a href="/wiki/User:Pasicles" title="User:Pasicles">Pasicles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pasicles" title="User talk:Pasicles">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Broch#c-Pasicles-2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pasicles-2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Pasicles","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pasicles-2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pasicles-2014-10-22T12:27:00.000Z-DougRM-2014-10-20T13:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DougRM-2014-10-23T09:42:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"></span>Brilliant! We are all pretty new to wikipedia so did not know about making subcategories. Thanks taught us something new.<a href="/wiki/User:DougRM" title="User:DougRM">DougRM</a> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Broch#c-DougRM-2014-10-23T09:42:00.000Z-Removed_red_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DougRM-2014-10-23T09:42:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-10-23T09:42:00.000Z","author":"DougRM","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DougRM-2014-10-23T09:42:00.000Z-Removed_red_links","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DougRM-2014-10-23T09:42:00.000Z-Removed_red_links"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐68db4b6789‐hr67j Cached time: 20241126054039 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.009 seconds CPU time usage: 0.150 seconds Real time usage: 0.203 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 102/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 8892/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 6/100 Expensive parser function count: 5/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 9791/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.110/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1593607/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 169.157 1 -total 100.00% 169.157 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 58.28% 98.579 1 Template:WikiProject_Scottish_Islands --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:21831612-0!canonical and timestamp 20241126054039 and revision id 1228606289. 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