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class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Status"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>Status</span> </div></a> <button aria-controls="toc-Status-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Status subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Status-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-28_May_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#28_May_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.1</span> <span>28 May 2024</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-28_May_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-24_April_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#24_April_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2</span> <span>24 April 2024</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-24_April_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-25_July_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#25_July_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>25 July 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-25_July_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-2_June_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#2_June_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.4</span> <span>2 June 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-2_June_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-April_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#April_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.5</span> <span>April 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-April_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-15_March_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#15_March_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.6</span> <span>15 March 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-15_March_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-14_February_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#14_February_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.7</span> <span>14 February 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-14_February_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-20_January_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#20_January_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.8</span> <span>20 January 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-20_January_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-11_January_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#11_January_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.9</span> <span>11 January 2023</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-11_January_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-19_December_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#19_December_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.10</span> <span>19 December 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-19_December_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-17_October_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#17_October_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.11</span> <span>17 October 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-17_October_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-21_September_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#21_September_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.12</span> <span>21 September 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-21_September_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-1_September_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#1_September_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.13</span> <span>1 September 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-1_September_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-22_August_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#22_August_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.14</span> <span>22 August 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-22_August_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-18_August_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#18_August_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.15</span> <span>18 August 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-18_August_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-4_August_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#4_August_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.16</span> <span>4 August 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-4_August_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-22_July_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#22_July_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.17</span> <span>22 July 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-22_July_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-8_July_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#8_July_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.18</span> <span>8 July 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-8_July_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-19_May_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#19_May_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.19</span> <span>19 May 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-19_May_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-22_April_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#22_April_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.20</span> <span>22 April 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-22_April_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-24_March_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#24_March_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.21</span> <span>24 March 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-24_March_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-11_March_2022" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#11_March_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.22</span> <span>11 March 2022</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-11_March_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-17_December_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#17_December_2021"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.23</span> <span>17 December 2021</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-17_December_2021-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-19_November_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#19_November_2021"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.24</span> <span>19 November 2021</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-19_November_2021-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-30_July_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#30_July_2021"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.25</span> <span>30 July 2021</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-30_July_2021-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-22_August_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a class="vector-toc-link" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#22_August_2021"> <div class="vector-toc-text"><span class="vector-toc-numb">2.26</span> <span>22 August 2021</span> </div></a> <ul id="toc-22_August_2021-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul></li> <li id="toc-21_January_2021" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"><a 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href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Category:WMF_Projects?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Category:WMF Projects">Wikimedia Foundation projects</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:WMF_Projects?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:WMF Projects"> </a></span> </div> <div class="wmf-engineering-project-box-title"> Talk page usability improvements </div> <div class="wmf-engineering-project-box-description"> Help contributors recognize and use talk pages as spaces for discussion. </div> <table class="wmf-engineering-project-box-data"> <tbody> <tr> <th scope="row">Group:</th> <td><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Editing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Editing">Editing</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th scope="row">Start:</th> <td>2021-04-01</td> </tr> <tr> <th scope="row">Team members:</th> <td><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Bartosz_Dziewo%C5%84ski_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Bartosz Dziewoński (WMF)">Bartosz Dziewoński</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:DChan_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:DChan (WMF)">David Chan</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:DLynch_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:DLynch (WMF)">David Lynch</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:EAkinloose_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:EAkinloose (WMF)">Esther Akinloose</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Mvolz_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Mvolz (WMF)">Marielle Volz</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RYasmeen_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RYasmeen (WMF)">Rummana Yasmeen</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:NAyoub_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:NAyoub (WMF)">Nicolas Ayoub</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Sherry Snyder</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Trizek_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Trizek (WMF)">Benoît Evellin</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th scope="row">Backlog:</th> <td><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/owc2020/" class="extiw" title="phab:tag/owc2020/">#owc2020</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th scope="row">Lead:</th> <td><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:ESanders_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:ESanders (WMF)">Ed Sanders</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th scope="row">Management:</th> <td><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VPuffetMichel_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VPuffetMichel (WMF)">Valerie Puffet-Michel</a> (engineering), <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PPelberg_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PPelberg (WMF)">Peter Pelberg</a> (product)</td> </tr> <tr class="mw-empty-elt"> </tr> </tbody> </table></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p>This page introduces the work the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Editing_team?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Editing team">Editing team</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Editing_team?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Editing team"> </a></span> will be doing to help people instinctively recognize and use talk pages as spaces to communicate with people on-wiki.</p> <p>This initiative sits within the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project">Talk pages project</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project"> </a></span>, our teams larger effort to help contributors, across experience levels, communicate more easily on Wikipedia using talk pages. To accomplish this, we are building upon the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_consultation_2019?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages consultation 2019">Talk pages consultation 2019</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages consultation 2019"> </a></span>, and existing community conventions, to incrementally evolve the visual appearance of talk pages in ways that ensure backwards compatibility with the current experience. To participate in and follow this project's development, we recommend adding this page to your watchlist.  We will use this page to:</p> <ul> <li>Share and invite feedback on designs</li> <li>Announce deployment plans</li> <li>Share data about how the feature is being used</li> </ul> <div style="clear: both;"></div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="What_changed?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_changed?"><span id="What_changed.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_changed?"></span>What changed?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_changed?"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: What changed?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Talk_pages_default_look_(April_2023).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Talk_pages_default_look_%28April_2023%29.jpg/440px-Talk_pages_default_look_%28April_2023%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="440" height="85" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Talk_pages_default_look_%2528April_2023%2529.jpg/660px-Talk_pages_default_look_%2528April_2023%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Talk_pages_default_look_%2528April_2023%2529.jpg/880px-Talk_pages_default_look_%2528April_2023%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="904" data-file-height="175"></a> <figcaption> The new look for talk pages (screenshot of French Wikipedia). </figcaption> </figure> <p>The following changes have been deployed as the final product:</p> <ul> <li>We changed how the talk page's main title, adding a space after “Talk:”, and all section titles look, now using Sans-serif.</li> <li>The buttons for replying, subscribing, and starting a new topic appear in a bolder typeface, instead of looking like a regular link.</li> <li>For Vector 2022 users, the table of contents shows the number of comments within a topic.</li> <li>We added meta-information at the top of the talk page (link and date for the latest comment).</li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Status" data-mw-thread-id="h-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Status"></span>Status<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Status"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=2&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Status"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="28_May_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-28_May_2024-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-28_May_2024-Status"></span><time datetime="2024-5-28">28 May 2024</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-28_May_2024-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=3&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 28 May 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Screenshot showing the suite of [[mw:Talk_pages_project/Usability|desktop Usability Improvements]] enabled at ko.wiki." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png/406px-Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png" decoding="async" width="406" height="203" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png/609px-Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png/812px-Usability_Improvements_on_desktop_at_ko.wiki.png 2x" data-file-width="2512" data-file-height="1256"></a> <figcaption> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Desktop Usability Improvements</a> enabled at ko.wiki. </figcaption> </figure> <p><i>Deployment</i></p> <p>On 6 May 2024, the set of Usability Improvements (desktop) were made available to all:</p> <ol> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332946" class="extiw" title="phab:T332946">Wikis that participated</a> in the <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Analysis_#2:_Impact">A/B test</a></li> <li>Sister projects <i>except</i> Commons and Wikidata</li> </ol> <p><i>Visit <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Deployment_Status?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Deployment Status">Talk pages project/Deployment Status</a> to learn more.</i></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="24_April_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-24_April_2024-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-24_April_2024-Status"></span><time datetime="2024-4-24">24 April 2024</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-24_April_2024-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=4&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 24 April 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332946" class="extiw" title="phab:T332946">Wikis that participated</a> in the <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Analysis_#2:_Impact">A/B test</a> are informed of the deployment of the Usability Improvements as the default experience on talk pages.</p> <p>An option to opt-out these changes is available <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">in preferences</a> (uncheck the "Show discussion activity" option).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="25_July_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-25_July_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-25_July_2023-Status"></span><time datetime="2023-7-25">25 July 2023</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-25_July_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=5&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 25 July 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>A/B Test Findings Published</i></p> <p>The findings from the A/B test <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">designed to evaluate the suite of desktop talk page design changes</a> are <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Analysis_#2:_Impact">available for you to review</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="2_June_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-2_June_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2_June_2023-Status"></span><time datetime="2023-6-2">2 June 2023</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-2_June_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 2 June 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>A/B Test</i></p> <p>On 8 May, <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#April_2023">the A/B test we mentioned in April</a> started at the following Wikipedias:</p> <ul> <li>Azerbaijani (azwiki), Bengali (bnwiki), Dutch (nlwiki), German (dewiki), Hebrew (hewiki), Hindi (hiwiki), Indonesian (idwiki), Korean (kowiki), Persian (fawiki), Portuguese (ptwiki), Romanian (rowiki), Thai (thwiki), Turkish (trwiki), Ukrainian (ukwiki), and Vietnamese (viwiki).</li> </ul> <p>On 1 June, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302358%238897116" class="extiw" title="phab:T302358">we confirmed</a> sufficient data had been gathered to <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">begin an analysis to assess the impact</a> of the suite of changes the <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Usability portion</a> of the broader <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project">Talk Pages Project</a>. In July, we expect results to be ready for the Editing Team to share and for us to collectively make sense of.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="April_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-April_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-April_2023-Status"></span>April 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-April_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=7&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: April 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The Editing Team is planning an <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/A/B_test?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="A/B test">A/B test</a> for Usability features on the desktop site. See <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302358" class="extiw" title="phab:T302358">phab:T302358</a> and <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="15_March_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-15_March_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-15_March_2023-Status"></span><time datetime="2023-3-15">15 March 2023</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-15_March_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=8&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 15 March 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing the [[mw:Talk pages project/Usability|Usability improvements]] enabled at cs.wiki for everyone (logged in and out) using the Vector (2022) skin." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png/322px-Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png" decoding="async" width="322" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png/483px-Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png/644px-Usability_Improvements_enabled_at_cs.wiki.png 2x" data-file-width="1942" data-file-height="904"></a> <figcaption> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Usability improvements</a> enabled at cs.wiki for everyone (logged in and out) using the Vector (2022) skin. </figcaption> </figure> <p>Today, the suite of Usability Improvements became available to everyone (logged in and out) by default at the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="cs:">Czech</a> and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="hu:">Hungarian</a> Wikipedias who are accessing talk pages with the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements">Vector (2022) skin</a> enabled.</p> <p>All Usability features are available to all editors using the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Mobile?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Mobile">mobile site</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="14_February_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-14_February_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-14_February_2023-Status"></span><time datetime="2023-2-14">14 February 2023</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-14_February_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=9&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 14 February 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Seeking Design Feedback</i></p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:T267444.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing the talk page's existing "Add topic" button styled in a more noticeable way and placed in a more prominent location at the top of talk pages." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/T267444.png/326px-T267444.png" decoding="async" width="326" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/T267444.png/489px-T267444.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/T267444.png/652px-T267444.png 2x" data-file-width="1600" data-file-height="664"></a> <figcaption> The proposed revisions to the "Add topic" button in the Vector (2022) skin. </figcaption> </figure> <p>There is a prototype ready that we would value feedback on: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/e22ef06cf7/wiki/Talk:DiscussionTools">https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/e22ef06cf7/wiki/Talk:DiscussionTools</a></p> <p>The prototype introduces two changes:</p> <ol> <li>The "Add topic" button appears in a more prominent location on the page (above the existing page toolbar that contains actions links like "Page," "Discussion," "Read," "Edit," "Edit source," etc.)</li> <li>The "Add topic" button is styled differently</li> </ol> <p>The two changes described above are an effort to make it easier for people to quickly locate and easily "reach for" the button for starting a new discussion topic.</p> <p><i>→ <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Feedback:_Proposed_Revisions_to_"Add_topic"_button" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">Please visit the talk page to share what questions/ideas/concerns this change brings up for you</a>.</i></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="20_January_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-20_January_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-20_January_2023-Status"></span><time datetime="2023-1-20">20 January 2023</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-20_January_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=10&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 20 January 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Page Frame Features Available at Most Wikis</i></p> <p>Next week, people accessing all Wikimedia wikis (<b>except</b> en.wiki) on desktop who have the <code>Show discussion activity</code> setting <b>enabled</b> within <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, will see new information on talk pages about the level of activity happening within them.</p> <p>See the <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#11_January_2023">11 January update for details</a> about the specific changes you can expect.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="11_January_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-11_January_2023-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-11_January_2023-Status"></span><time datetime="2023-1-11">11 January 2023</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-11_January_2023-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=11&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 11 January 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot of a talk page with the following new design elements highlighted: the number of comments within each talk page section, when the latest comment was published and the title of the section it was published within, and the addition of a space in the page's title" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png/381px-Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png" decoding="async" width="381" height="186" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png/572px-Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png/762px-Page_Frame_Features_on_desktop.png 2x" data-file-width="2108" data-file-height="1028"></a> <figcaption> Screenshot showing the "Page Frame" features that are being made available on desktop talk pages. </figcaption> </figure> <p><i>Page Frame Features Available at Partner Wikis</i></p> <p>On Tuesday, 17 January, people accessing the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias on desktop who have the <code>Show discussion activity</code> setting <b>enabled</b> within <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, will see the following new features on talk pages:</p> <ol> <li>A visual space between the "namespace" and "page" name portion of a talk page's title</li> <li>An indicator that describes, and links to, the latest comment published on a given talk page</li> <li>Information within the table of contents about the number of comments within each section</li> </ol> <p><i>Usability Improvements in All Talk Namespaces</i></p> <p>Next week, people at all Wikipedias who have the <code>Show discussion activity</code> setting <b>enabled</b> within <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, will see Usability Improvements when they visit any page within a talk/odd-numbered namespace (e.g. Wikipedia talk, File talk, MediaWiki talk, etc.).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="19_December_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-19_December_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-19_December_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-12-19">19 December 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-19_December_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=12&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 19 December 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <table class="wikitable"> <caption> Update to Reply button </caption> <tbody> <tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png/200px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png/300px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png/400px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_with_arrow_2022_ja.png 2x" data-file-width="668" data-file-height="214"></a></span></td> <td>New appearance, used on mobile for all languages. Also used on desktop if the word "Reply" is one or two characters (Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Northern Thai, Cantonese).</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png/200px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="68" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png/300px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png/400px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_bold_2022_ja.png 2x" data-file-width="672" data-file-height="230"></a></span></td> <td>New appearance, used on desktop for most languages. Visible to people who have the <code>Show discussion activity</code> setting <i><b>enabled</b></i> in <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">Special Preferences</a>.</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png/200px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png/300px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png/400px-DiscussionTools_Reply_button_brackets_2021_ja.png 2x" data-file-width="670" data-file-height="214"></a></span></td> <td>Oldest appearance. Visible to people who have the <code>Show discussion activity</code> setting <i><b>disabled</b></i> in <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">Special Preferences</a><b>.</b></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p>The arrow is being added to improve <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/accessibility?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/accessibility">Accessibility</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Accessibility?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Accessibility"> </a></span>.</p> <p>The default on the desktop site does not include an arrow. The configuration is set globally per language, not per wiki. Follow the process at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes">Requesting wiki configuration changes</a> if you believe your language should include the arrow.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="17_October_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-17_October_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-17_October_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-10-17">17 October 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-17_October_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=13&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 17 October 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Reply_Tool_button_styling_(desktop).png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Reply_Tool_button_styling_%28desktop%29.png/339px-Reply_Tool_button_styling_%28desktop%29.png" decoding="async" width="339" height="63" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Reply_Tool_button_styling_%2528desktop%2529.png/509px-Reply_Tool_button_styling_%2528desktop%2529.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Reply_Tool_button_styling_%2528desktop%2529.png/678px-Reply_Tool_button_styling_%2528desktop%2529.png 2x" data-file-width="1556" data-file-height="288"></a> <figcaption> New <b>Reply</b> button styling </figcaption> </figure> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png/220px-DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="119" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png/330px-DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png/440px-DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png 2x" data-file-width="1526" data-file-height="822"></a> <figcaption> Screenshot with new changes marked </figcaption> </figure> <p><i>Clear Affordances (desktop) Deployment</i></p> <p>On 27 September, a new appearance for the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Phase_2:_Affordances" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">Reply buttons</a> that appear on desktop talk pages became available to people at the Czech and Hungarian Wikipedias who have the DiscussionTools beta feature enabled.</p> <p>Tomorrow (18 October), this new Reply button styling will become available at most other Wikipedias. See more in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T320683" class="extiw" title="phab:T320683">T320683</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="21_September_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-21_September_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-21_September_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-9-21">21 September 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-21_September_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=14&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 21 September 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Topic Container (desktop) Deployment</i></p> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png/220px-DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="119" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png/330px-DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png/440px-DiscussionTools_Usability_Topic_Container_screenshot_annotated_September_2022_ja.png 2x" data-file-width="1526" data-file-height="822"></a> <figcaption> Screenshot with new changes marked </figcaption> </figure> <p>Today, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Phase_1:_Topic_containers" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">Topic Containers</a> became available on desktop at the English and German Wikipedias to everyone who has the DiscussionTools beta feature <b>enabled</b>. More details about this deployment can be found in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T315625" class="extiw" title="phab:T315625">T315625</a>.</p> <p>In the coming weeks, we plan to:</p> <ol> <li>Offer Topic Containers on desktop to volunteers at the Japanese Wikipedia who have the DiscussionTools beta feature enabled. See <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T318127" class="extiw" title="phab:T318127">T318127</a>.</li> <li>Offer a new appearance for the <code>[ reply ]</code> links that appear on desktop talk pages at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias. See <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T315626" class="extiw" title="phab:T315626">T315626</a>.</li> </ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="1_September_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-1_September_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-1_September_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-9-1">1 September 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-1_September_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=15&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 1 September 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Topic Container (desktop) Deployment</i></p> <p>On Tuesday, 30 August, Topic Containers became available on desktop as a Beta Feature at <i>all</i> Wikimedia wikis except for English, German, and Japanese Wikipedias.</p> <p>Reason being, we are running a central notice campaign at these three wikis to gather feedback <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Prototype?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability/Prototype">about suite of usability improvements</a>. Once these campaigns have finished running and we have understood and responded to the feedback, we will offer desktop Topic Containers as a beta feature at these three Wikipedias.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="22_August_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-22_August_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-22_August_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-8-22">22 August 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-22_August_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=16&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 22 August 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Design of a new "Add topic" button are ready for you all to review.</i></p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:New_Add_Topic_button_(Vector_2022).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A mockup showing a new "Add Topic" button that could appear on talk pages on desktop for people who have the Vector (2022) skin enabled." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/New_Add_Topic_button_%28Vector_2022%29.jpg/311px-New_Add_Topic_button_%28Vector_2022%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="311" height="256" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/New_Add_Topic_button_%2528Vector_2022%2529.jpg/467px-New_Add_Topic_button_%2528Vector_2022%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/New_Add_Topic_button_%2528Vector_2022%2529.jpg/622px-New_Add_Topic_button_%2528Vector_2022%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2862" data-file-height="2358"></a> <figcaption> A mockup of the proposed "Add Topic" button design. </figcaption> </figure> <p>This change is designed to make it easier for people to notice and access the "Add Topic" button on desktop talk pages where people do not have access to the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_(desktop).jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Usability Improvement annotated mockup (desktop).jpg">new site-wide sticky header and the "Add Topic" button that now appears within it</a>.</p> <p>Please <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">visit the talk page</a> to <b>share feedback</b> about the designs.</p> <p>The design you see here are inspired by ideas projects like cs.wiki, en.wiki, fi.wiki, and fr.wiki have implemented to make it easier for people to identify and access the "Add topic" / "New section" link, especially on longer pages. See more in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267444" class="extiw" title="phab:T267444">T267444</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="18_August_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-18_August_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-18_August_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-8-18">18 August 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-18_August_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=17&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 18 August 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Making Topic Containers (desktop) available on more wikis</i></p> <p>Yesterday (17 August), <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Phase_1:_Topic_containers" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">Topic Containers</a> became available as a <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Beta_Features?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Beta Features">Beta Feature</a> on desktop at all Wikimedia wikis <i>except</i> de.wiki, en.wiki, and ja.wiki.</p> <p>In the coming weeks, following additional prototype testing, we will offer Topic Containers on desktop at the remaining three wikis mentioned above.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="4_August_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-4_August_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-4_August_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-8-4">4 August 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-4_August_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=18&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 4 August 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Second deployment</i></p> <p>The <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#22_July_2022" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">initial desktop Topic Container deployment</a> seems to have gone well. Accordingly, we are planning to make Topic Containers on desktop available as a Beta Feature at all Wikimedia wikis <i><b>except</b></i> de.wiki, en.wiki, and ja.wiki before August is over.</p> <p>If/when this timing changes we will share an update here.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="22_July_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-22_July_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-22_July_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-7-22">22 July 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-22_July_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=19&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 22 July 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>First deployment</i></p> <p>On Wednesday, 20 July, Topic Containers (the new talk page section heading design) became available as a <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Beta_Features?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Beta Features">Beta Feature</a> at the first three Wikipedias: Arabic (ar.wiki), Czech (cs.wiki), and Hungarian (hu.wiki).</p> <p>Over the next few weeks, we will offer Topic Containers as a beta feature at all Wikimedia wikis. This timing assumes we do not discover any significant issues.</p> <p>In the meantime, if you would like to see what a live talk page looks like with Topic Containers enabled, try visiting <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" class="extiw" title="hu:User talk:Tacsipacsi">hu:User talk:Tacsipacsi</a> (make sure the "Discussion tools" feature is enabled in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%25C3%25A1lis:Be%25C3%25A1ll%25C3%25ADt%25C3%25A1saim%23mw-prefsection-betafeatures" class="extiw" title="hu:Speciális:Beállításaim">Beta Features</a>).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="8_July_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-8_July_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-8_July_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-7-8">8 July 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-8_July_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=20&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 8 July 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Design updates</i></p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing the design of desktop talk pages in the Vector 2022 sin as of 8 July 2022." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png/295px-Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png" decoding="async" width="295" height="272" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png/443px-Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png/590px-Desktop_talk_page_design_as_of_8_July_2022.png 2x" data-file-width="3360" data-file-height="3102"></a> <figcaption> <b>Desktop</b> talk page design (Vector 2022) as of 8 July 2022. </figcaption> </figure> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing the design of desktop web talk pages as of 8 July 2022." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png/295px-Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png" decoding="async" width="295" height="303" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png/442px-Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png/589px-Desktop_talk_page_design_in_Legacy_Vector.png 2x" data-file-width="3360" data-file-height="3456"></a> <figcaption> <b>Desktop</b> talk page design (Legacy Vector) as of 8 July 2022. </figcaption> </figure> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing the design of mobile web talk pages as of 8 July 2022." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png/299px-Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png" decoding="async" width="299" height="176" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png/449px-Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png/598px-Mobile_web_talk_page_design.png 2x" data-file-width="3764" data-file-height="2218"></a> <figcaption> <b>Mobile</b> talk page design as of 8 July 2022. </figcaption> </figure> <p>Over the past couple of months, people have shared feedback about the initial <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#19_May_2022">designs we published in May</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> This feedback has been helpful in leading us to see the need for making a series of adjustments to the design. You can the latest designs in the screenshots that accompany this update.</p> <p>Some of the changes we have made in response to the feedback you all have shared include:</p> <ul> <li>Removing the arrow that previously appeared before each "Reply" link</li> <li>Adding the ability for people to click the "Latest comment" indicator and be taken to the most recent comment in the discussion</li> <li>Removing the icons that previously accompanied the metadata that is shown beneath each talk page section heading</li> </ul> <p><i>First deployment</i></p> <p>Before July is over, we plan to offer the new talk page section heading design as a <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Beta_Features?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Beta Features">Beta Feature</a> at an <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312670" class="extiw" title="phab:T312670">initial set of wikis</a>.</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r6651107">.mw-parser-output .note{background-position:left 7px top 50%;padding:0.5em 0.5em 0.5em 40px;margin:0.5em 0;overflow:hidden;background-color:#f8f9fa;color:#333;background-repeat:no-repeat;border:1px solid #ddd}.mw-parser-output .note-inline{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle}.mw-parser-output .note-info{background-color:#eaf3ff;color:#333;background-image:url("https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/OOjs_UI_icon_information-progressive.svg");background-size:25px;border-color:#a3caff;padding-left:40px;min-height:25px}.mw-parser-output .note-reminder{background-color:#fff9ea;color:#333;background-image:url("https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/OOjs_UI_icon_lightbulb-yellow.svg");background-size:25px;border-color:#fc3;min-height:25px}.mw-parser-output .note-warn{background-color:#fff9ea;color:#333;background-image:url("https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/OOjs_UI_icon_alert-warning.svg");background-size:25px;border-color:#fc3;min-height:25px}.mw-parser-output .note-error{background-color:#fee7e6;color:#333;background-image:url("https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/OOjs_UI_icon_notice-destructive.svg");background-size:25px;border-color:#c33;min-height:25px}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .note{background-color:transparent;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .note{background-color:transparent;color:inherit}}</style> <div role="note" class="note note-info"> You can see and try the new talk page section heading design right now by visiting <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">talk page</a>. </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="19_May_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-19_May_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-19_May_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-5-19">19 May 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-19_May_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=21&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 19 May 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing prototype of Usability Improvements designs." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png/378px-Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png" decoding="async" width="378" height="293" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png/567px-Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png/756px-Screenshot_of_Usability_Improvement_prototype.png 2x" data-file-width="1862" data-file-height="1444"></a> <figcaption> Screenshot showing the Usability Improvements prototype. </figcaption> </figure> <p>A prototype is ready for you all to try <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Design">the talk page visual changes</a>.</p> <p>These changes are designed to make it easier for people to understand and use talk pages on desktop and mobile.</p> <p><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-PPelberg_(WMF)-2022-05-19T23:22:00.000Z-Prototype_Ready" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">Please visit the talk page</a> to find the information you will need to:</p> <ul> <li><b>Try the prototype</b></li> <li><b>Share feedback</b> about the prototype</li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="22_April_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-22_April_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-22_April_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-4-22">22 April 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-22_April_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=22&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 22 April 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_(desktop).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A mockup showing the proposed new design for desktop wikitext talk pages." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28desktop%29.jpg/371px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28desktop%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="371" height="264" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg/557px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg/742px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2950" data-file-height="2100"></a> <figcaption> Annotated mockup of new design for <b>desktop</b> wikitext talk pages. </figcaption> </figure> <p>Mockups are ready for <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Approach" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">the changes</a> designed to make it easier for people to understand and use talk pages on desktop and mobile.</p> <p>In the next few weeks, a prototype will be ready for you to <i>try out</i> these changes on a test wiki.</p> <p>In the meantime, a question for you all: <b>What ideas, questions, or concerns do these mockups bring to your mind?</b></p> <p>Knowing this will help the team decide whether adjustments ought to be made to the designs prior to inviting you all, and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302121" class="extiw" title="phab:T302121">other volunteers from across the Movement</a>, to share feedback about them.</p> <p>You can <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Feedback:_New_talk_page_designs" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">review these designs in more detail and share feedback about them on the talk page</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="24_March_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-24_March_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-24_March_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-3-24">24 March 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-24_March_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=23&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 24 March 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Phase_1:_Topic_containers" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">Topic Containers</a> prototype we <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#11_March_2022" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">mentioned on 11 March</a> is ready for testing.</p> <p>To try the <i>desktop</i> prototype, please visit <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Prototype/Topic_Containers?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability/Prototype/Topic Containers">Prototype/Topic Containers</a> where you will find a link to the prototype as well as instructions for trying and sharing feedback about the prototype.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="11_March_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-11_March_2022-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-11_March_2022-Status"></span><time datetime="2022-3-11">11 March 2022</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-11_March_2022-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=24&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 11 March 2022"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The team is continuing to iterate on the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Phase_1:_Topic_containers" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">Topic Containers</a> designs for both mobile and desktop talk pages.</p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing a proposed design for mobile talk page section headings" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png/175px-Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png" decoding="async" width="175" height="390" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png/263px-Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png/350px-Proposed_design_for_mobile_talk_page_section_headings.png 2x" data-file-width="352" data-file-height="783"></a> <figcaption> A proposed design for mobile talk page section headings that includes new metadata about the discussion. </figcaption> </figure> <p>In the next 1-2 weeks, we will have an initial prototype ready for you all to experiment with and share feedback about. We will also be starting a series of CentralNotice campaigns for volunteers to review and share feedback about the Topic Container prototype which will include:</p> <p><br></p> <ul> <li>New styling for <code>== H2 ==</code> section headings</li> <li>New metadata about talk page discussions. This will include: the number of people who have commented in a discussion, the last time a new comment was published in the discussion, and the total number of people who have participated in the discussion to-date.</li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="17_December_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-17_December_2021-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-17_December_2021-Status"></span><time datetime="2021-12-17">17 December 2021</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-17_December_2021-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=25&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 17 December 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A series of mockups exploring different ways section headings on talk pages could evolve." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg/296px-Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg" decoding="async" width="296" height="334" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg/444px-Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg/592px-Topic_Container_Design_Concepts.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3792" data-file-height="4282"></a> <figcaption> A series of Topic Containers design concepts. </figcaption> </figure> <p><i>Seeking Feedback: Initial "Topic Container" Design Concepts</i></p> <p>An initial set of design concepts for <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Phase_1:_Topic_containers" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability">Topic Containers</a> is ready for you all to review (see screenshot).</p> <p>These Topic Containers are an effort to evolve the way talk page section headings ( <code>== H2 ==</code>) appear, and introduce new information within them, to help:</p> <ol> <li><b>Junior Contributors</b> easily recognize talk pages as containing discussions</li> <li><b>Senior Contributors</b> assess the level of activity on talk pages</li> </ol> <p>📣 <span style="background-color:yellow"><b>We would value you reviewing the design concepts and <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Feedback:_Topic_Containers_Design_Concepts" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">sharing what you think of them on the talk page</a></b></span>, so the team can know what changes to explore in the next set of designs we will share in January (2022).</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="19_November_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-19_November_2021-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-19_November_2021-Status"></span><time datetime="2021-11-19">19 November 2021</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-19_November_2021-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=26&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 19 November 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>Design work beginning</i></p> <p>Design work on Topic Containers – the first intervention we are working on as part of this phase of the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project">Talk Pages Project</a> – is underway.</p> <p>In the coming weeks, you can expect to see some preliminary sketches posted here for you all to review and for us to talk about together.</p> <p>In the meantime, if any questions are on your mind about this part of the project, please post them to the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">talk page</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="30_July_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-30_July_2021-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-30_July_2021-Status"></span><time datetime="2021-7-30">30 July 2021</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-30_July_2021-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=27&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 30 July 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><i>We need your help</i></p> <p><b>When looking at a talk page, what do you think would make it easier for you to know what conversations are worth reading?</b> <i>Please <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Visual_enhancements?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#A_question_about_reading_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Visual enhancements">share what you think on the talk page</a>.</i></p> <p>The thoughts you all share will inform the design of the "topic containers" we will start designing soon. These "topic containers" are intended to help people more easily and quickly recognize talk pages as containing conversations and get a sense for the level of activity happening with them.</p> <p><i>Strategy</i></p> <p>In June, we published the design strategy and set of interventions we are planning to work on as part of the larger effort to help people, across experience levels, identify and understand the conversations happening on talk pages. You can <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Visual_enhancements?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Strategy_and_approach" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk pages project/Visual enhancements">read more about this strategy</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="22_August_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-22_August_2021-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-22_August_2021-Status"></span><time datetime="2021-8-22">22 August 2021</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-22_August_2021-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=28&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 22 August 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The team has compiled the research that is informing the approach we will take to help <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Junior Contributors</a> quickly recognize talk pages as spaces to communicate with other volunteers and locate the tools available to do so and help <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Senior Contributors</a> can quickly evaluate the level of activity happening on talk pages. More information about this can be found in the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Visual_enhancements?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Objectives" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk pages project/Visual enhancements">Objectives</a> and <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Visual_enhancements?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Background" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk pages project/Visual enhancements">Background</a> sections below.</p> <p>In the coming weeks, you can expect this page to be updated with the particular interventions we are planning to work on as part of this phase of the project. Before then, you can review how we are planning and organizing this work in Phabricator at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249579" class="extiw" title="phab:T249579">T249579</a>.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="21_January_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-21_January_2021-Status"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-21_January_2021-Status"></span><time datetime="2021-1-21">21 January 2021</time><span data-mw-comment-end="h-21_January_2021-Status"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=29&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: 21 January 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The team is planning to begin work on the incremental enhancements needed help people instinctively recognize and use talk pages as spaces to communicate with people on-wiki will begin in earnest in ~3 months.</p> <p>In the meantime, we will be expanding this this page to include the research that is motivating this work and the impact it is intended to have.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Objectives" data-mw-thread-id="h-Objectives"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Objectives"></span>Objectives<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Objectives"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=30&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Objectives"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>This work to make wikitext talk pages more legible is intended to cause:</p> <ol> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Junior Contributors</a> to quickly recognize talk pages as spaces to communicate with other volunteers and locate the tools available to do so.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Senior Contributors</a> to be able to quickly assess what conversations on a given talk page are worth focusing on.</li> </ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Impact" data-mw-thread-id="h-Impact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Impact"></span>Impact<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Impact"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=31&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Impact"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Analysis_#2:_Impact" data-mw-thread-id="h-Analysis_#2:_Impact-Impact"><span id="Analysis_.232:_Impact"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Analysis_#2:_Impact-Impact"></span>Analysis #2: Impact<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Analysis_#2:_Impact-Impact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=32&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Analysis #2: Impact"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>To learn whether the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Feature_overview" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">suite of desktop talk page design changes</a> were effective at causing the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Objectives" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">impacts they were designed to cause</a>, we conducted an A/B test.</p> <p>At the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332946" class="extiw" title="phab:T332946">15 Wikipedias that participated in the test</a>, 50% of people who were logged in were shown the new talk page design and 50% were shown the existing experience on desktop talk pages.</p> <p>We then compared how these two groups of people engaged with talk pages in service of making the following decision: <b>Are the set of Usability Improvements on desktop fit to be made available to everyone, at all Wikimedia wikis, by default?</b></p> <p>What follows is a summary of what we learned through this A/B test and ultimately, the conclusion we are drawing from it.</p> <p><i>You can <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://nbviewer.org/urls/gitlab.wikimedia.org/mneisler/usability-improvements-desktop-analysis-2023/-/raw/main/ui_desktop_ab_test_report.ipynb">read the full test report</a> and learn more about the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">thinking behind this A/B test</a>.</i></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"> <h4 id="Learning_objectives" data-mw-thread-id="h-Learning_objectives-Analysis_#2:_Impact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Learning_objectives-Analysis_#2:_Impact"></span>Learning objectives<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Learning_objectives-Analysis_#2:_Impact"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=33&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Learning objectives"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>To what extent have the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Feature_overview" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">suite of desktop talk page design changes</a> been effective at causing the following?</p> <ol> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Junior Contributors</a> quickly recognize talk pages as places to communicate with other volunteers and locate the tools available to do so.</li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Senior Contributors</a> are able to quickly assess which conversations on a given talk page are worth focusing on.</li> </ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"> <h4 id="Conclusion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conclusion-Analysis_#2:_Impact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conclusion-Analysis_#2:_Impact"></span>Conclusion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conclusion-Analysis_#2:_Impact"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=34&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Conclusion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>This set of desktop talk page design changes resulting in increased engagement and decreased disruption is leading the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Editing_team?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Editing team">Editing Team</a> to be confident that offering these <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Usability Improvements</a> as default-on features would have a net positive impact on wikis and the people who contribute to them.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"> <h4 id="Findings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Findings-Analysis_#2:_Impact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Findings-Analysis_#2:_Impact"></span>Findings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Findings-Analysis_#2:_Impact"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=35&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Findings"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Bar chart showing the rate at which edits are reverted, grouped by experience level" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png/343px-Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png" decoding="async" width="343" height="199" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png/515px-Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png/686px-Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate.png 2x" data-file-width="963" data-file-height="559"></a> <figcaption> Revert rate for talk page edits in A/B test, grouped by experience level. </figcaption> </figure> <p><i>Revert rate.</i></p> <p>Defined at the proportion of published talk page edits, of all types, that are reverted within 48 hours.</p> <ul> <li>Overall: we observed an <b>11% decrease</b> (-0.4 percentage points) in the <b>revert rate of talk page edits</b> by people shown the suite of desktop talk page design changes across all participating Wikipedias and all editor experience levels.</li> <li>Experience level: when we analyzed revert rate by editor experience level, we observed... <ul> <li>A <b>12.5% decrease</b> in the revert rate of talk page edits made by <b>Junior Contributors</b> (<100 cumulative edits)</li> <li>A <b>7.4% decrease</b> in the revert rate of talk edits made by <b>Senior Contributors</b> (>100 cumulative edits).</li> </ul></li> <li>Desktop skin: when we analyzed revert rate by desktop skin type, we observed... <ul> <li>A <b>6.3%</b> <b>increase</b> (3.2% → 3.4%) in the revert rate of edits made by people using the <i>Vector</i> skin</li> <li>A <b>30.8% decrease</b> (3.9% → 2.7%) in the revert rate of edits made by people using the <i>Vector 2022</i> skin</li> </ul></li> </ul> <p><i>Edit completion rate</i></p> <p>Defined as the proportion of talk page edits that are started and successfully published (not reverted within 48 hours).</p> <ul> <li>Overall: People shown the suite of desktop talk page design changes were slightly more likely to complete an edit that they started. We observed a <b>3.3% increase</b> (+2 percentage points) in edit completion rate across all participating Wikipedias and all editor experience levels.</li> <li>Experience level: when we analyzed edit completion rate by experience level, we observed... <ul> <li>A <b>1.6% increase</b> (43.8%→44.5%) in edit completion rate among <b>Junior Contributors</b> (<100 cumulative edits)</li> <li>A <b>3.6% increase</b> (66.8%→69.2%) in edit completion rate among <b>Senior Contributors</b> (>100 cumulative edits)</li> </ul></li> <li>Desktop skin: when we analyzed revert rate by desktop skin type, we observed... <ul> <li>A <b>2.1%</b> <b>increase</b> (62.4% → 63.7%) in the revert rate of edits made by people using the <i>Vector</i> skin</li> <li>A <b>5.3% decrease</b> (59.9% → 63.1%) in the revert rate of edits made by people using the <i>Vector 2022</i> skin</li> </ul></li> </ul> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A bar chart showing the percent of desktop talk page views that included an edit attempt" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png/468px-Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png" decoding="async" width="468" height="276" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png/702px-Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png/936px-Desktop_talk_page_edit_attempts.png 2x" data-file-width="949" data-file-height="560"></a> <figcaption> Percent of talk page views by Junior Contributors that included an edit attempt </figcaption> </figure> <p><i>Block rate</i></p> <p>Defined as the proportion of people who publish talk page edits and are subsequently blocked.</p> <ul> <li>We did not observe any significant changes in the number of users blocked after publishing a desktop talk page edit.</li> <li>Overall: <b>0.5%</b> of users shown the suite of desktop talk page design changes were blocked compared to 0.6% of users who were shown the existing experience across all participating Wikipedias and all editor experience levels.</li> </ul> <p><i>Talk page engagement</i></p> <p>Proportion of Junior Contributors that visited a desktop talk page and made an attempt to edit.</p> <ul> <li>Of all the visits to desktop talk pages that Junior Contributors made throughout the A/B test, Junior Contributors shown the suite of desktop talk page design changes interacted with the page in <b>16.7% more talk page views</b> (+1.4 percentage points) than those shown the existing experience.</li> <li>We observed an <b>19% increase</b> (+0.7 percentage point) in the <b>proportion of talk page views</b> by Junior Contributors that <b>included a saved edit</b>.</li> </ul> <p><i>Timing</i></p> <p>This analysis was completed on 27 June 2023 and analyzed how people engaged with desktop talk pages at az.wiki, bn.wiki, de.wiki, fa.wiki, hi.wiki, he.wiki, id.wiki, ko.wiki, nl.wiki, pt.wiki, ro.wiki, th.wiki, tr.wiki, uk.wiki, and vi.wiki from 8 May 2023 through 28 May 2023.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Analysis_#1:_Engagement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Analysis_#1:_Engagement-Impact"><span id="Analysis_.231:_Engagement"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Analysis_#1:_Engagement-Impact"></span>Analysis #1: Engagement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Analysis_#1:_Engagement-Impact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=36&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Analysis #1: Engagement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>To learn whether the suite of desktop talk page design changes were negatively impacting peoples' experiences using Wikipedia talk pages, we conducted an initial analysis at the three Wikipedias where these features were <i>first</i> made available by default: ar.wiki, cs.wiki, and hu.wiki.</p> <p>This analysis was meant to help us answer the following question:</p> <p><i>Are the set of Usability Improvements negatively impacting other peoples' experiences using Wikipedia talk pages?</i></p> <p>The answer to this question was a key factor in helping the team decide whether these new features were fit to be deployed more widely and <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability/Analysis?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Usability/Analysis">evaluated through an A/B test</a>.</p> <p><i>Timing</i></p> <p>This analysis was completed on 12 April 2023 and analyzed engagement data at ar.wiki, cs.wiki, and hu.wiki during the following time periods:</p> <ul> <li>cs.wiki and hu.wiki: 28 February 2023 - 29 March 2023</li> <li>ar.wiki: 05 March 2023 - 3 April 2023</li> </ul> <p>The time periods were selected to collect engagement data two weeks before and two weeks after making the suite of desktop talk page design changes available by default at the participating wikis.</p> <p><i>Findings</i></p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_(ar,_cs,_hu),_spring_2023.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A bart chart showing desktop talk page revert rates by experience level at ar.wiki, cs.wiki, and hu.wiki during spring 2023" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_%28ar%2C_cs%2C_hu%29%2C_spring_2023.png/288px-Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_%28ar%2C_cs%2C_hu%29%2C_spring_2023.png" decoding="async" width="288" height="144" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_hu%2529%252C_spring_2023.png/432px-Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_hu%2529%252C_spring_2023.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_hu%2529%252C_spring_2023.png/576px-Desktop_talk_page_revert_rate_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_hu%2529%252C_spring_2023.png 2x" data-file-width="4800" data-file-height="2400"></a> <figcaption> Desktop talk page revert rates by experience level at ar.wiki, cs.wiki, and hu.wiki during spring 2023 </figcaption> </figure> <p><b>Revert rate</b></p> <ul> <li>Overall: We did not observe any changes in the overall desktop talk page edit revert rate pre- and post-deployment across the three participating wikis. The overall revert rate pre- and post- deployment was 4.3%.</li> <li>Editor Interface: When we analyzed the revert rate by editor interface type, we observed a -17% percent decrease in the revert rate of desktop talk page edits made with visual editor and a -4% decrease in the revert rate of desktop talk page edits made with wikitext following deployment of the feature.</li> <li>Experience level: When we analyzed the revert rate by experience level, we observed a -18% decrease in the revert rate of desktop talk page edits by Junior Contributors (under 100 cumulative edits) following the deployment of the feature; compared to 4.5% increase (+0.1 percentage points) for Senior Contributors (over 100 cumulative edits).</li> </ul> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_(ar,_cs,_and_hu)_spring_2023.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A bar chart showing desktop talk page edit completion rates by experience level at ar.wiki, cs.wiki, and hu.wiki during February and March, 2023." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_%28ar%2C_cs%2C_and_hu%29_spring_2023.png/294px-Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_%28ar%2C_cs%2C_and_hu%29_spring_2023.png" decoding="async" width="294" height="147" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_and_hu%2529_spring_2023.png/441px-Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_and_hu%2529_spring_2023.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_and_hu%2529_spring_2023.png/588px-Desktop_talk_page_edit_completion_rates_by_experience_level_%2528ar%252C_cs%252C_and_hu%2529_spring_2023.png 2x" data-file-width="4800" data-file-height="2400"></a> <figcaption> Desktop talk page edit completion rates by experience level at ar.wiki, cs.wiki, and hu.wiki during February and March, 2023. </figcaption> </figure> <p><b>Edit completion rate</b></p> <ul> <li>Overall: We observed a -4.8% decrease in desktop talk page edit completion rate across all three participating wikis. There were no sudden increases or decreases in daily edit completion rates following deployment of the feature.</li> <li>Editor Interface: We observed a slight increase (< 1%) in edit completion rate for desktop talk page edits made with visual editor and an -11% percent decrease for desktop talk page edits made with wikitext following deployment of the feature.</li> <li>Experience level: We observed was a 10.2% increase in talk page edit completion rate for Junior Contributors and a slight decrease (-1.3%) in edit completion rate for Senior Contributors.</li> </ul> <p><b>Block rate</b></p> <ul> <li>Overall: We did not observe any significant changes in the number of users blocked after publishing a desktop talk page edit. Less than 1.5% of users were issued a sitewide block pre and post deployment across all three participating wikis.</li> </ul> <p><b>Opt-out rate</b></p> <ul> <li>Overall: A total of 48 distinct users across all three participating wikis turned the feature off.</li> <li>Activity level: Less than 1% of the total number of users who made a desktop talk page edit attempt following the deployment of the usability improvements (2,122 people) disabled the feature during the reviewed time period.</li> </ul> <p><i>Full Report</i></p> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://nbviewer.org/urls/gitlab.wikimedia.org/mneisler/usability-improvements-desktop-analysis-2023/-/raw/main/engagement_analysis.ipynb"><i>Usability Improvements Engagement Analysis</i></a></p> <p><br></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Strategy_and_approach" data-mw-thread-id="h-Strategy_and_approach"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Strategy_and_approach"></span>Strategy and approach<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Strategy_and_approach"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=37&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Strategy and approach"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Strategy:_"Inch_towards_legibility"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Strategy:_"Inch_towards_legibility"-Strategy_and_approach"><span id="Strategy:_.22Inch_towards_legibility.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Strategy:_"Inch_towards_legibility"-Strategy_and_approach"></span>Strategy: "Inch towards legibility"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Strategy:_"Inch_towards_legibility"-Strategy_and_approach"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=38&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Strategy: "Inch towards legibility""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>We will make incremental and optional changes* to elevate the core talk page components (e.g. topic headings and conversation metadata) and calls to action (e.g. <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Replying?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Replying">replying to a comment</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/New_discussion?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/New discussion">starting a new discussion</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Notifications?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Notifications">subscribing to a topic</a>, etc.). We will seek changes to improve peoples' ability to:</p> <ul> <li><b>Recognize</b> talk pages as space to communicate with other people</li> <li><b>Identify</b> and <b>understand</b> the conversations happening on talk pages</li> <li><b>Know</b> what to do to engage with talk pages</li> </ul> <p><i>*We are using "optional changes" in this context to mean that new functionality will be developed in ways that ensure people retain the flexibility to turn it off.</i></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="Approach" data-mw-thread-id="h-Approach-Strategy_and_approach"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Approach-Strategy_and_approach"></span>Approach<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Approach-Strategy_and_approach"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=39&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Approach"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>We will work to deliver on the strategy above through three phases, the details of which are outlined below.</p> <p>It is important that volunteers' needs and expectations are heard and incorporated into the design process. To do this, we will publicize the questions and decisions that guide the implementation of each of the phases below and make sure this information is easy to engage with.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"> <h4 id="Phase_1:_Topic_containers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Phase_1:_Topic_containers-Approach"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Phase_1:_Topic_containers-Approach"></span>Phase 1: Topic containers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Phase_1:_Topic_containers-Approach"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=40&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Phase 1: Topic containers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A screenshot showing the new design of level 2 section headings on desktop talk pages at cs.wiki." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png/309px-Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png" decoding="async" width="309" height="93" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png/464px-Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png/618px-Topic_Container_on_desktop_at_cs.wiki.png 2x" data-file-width="1714" data-file-height="518"></a> <figcaption> Topic Container (desktop) at cs.wiki. </figcaption> </figure> <p>First, we will evolve how talk page section headings (read: <code>==H2==</code>) are visually represented and introduce discussion-specific metadata within these headings.</p> <p>"Discussion-specific metadata" in this context refers to information like: the last time the conversation was edited, the number of comments in the conversation, the number of unique people who have participated in the conversation, etc.</p> <p><i>More information can be found in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269950" class="extiw" title="phab:T269950">T269950</a>.</i></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"> <h4 id="Phase_2:_Affordances" data-mw-thread-id="h-Phase_2:_Affordances-Approach"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Phase_2:_Affordances-Approach"></span>Phase 2: Affordances<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Phase_2:_Affordances-Approach"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=41&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Phase 2: Affordances"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Next, we will make the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordance" class="extiw" title="en:Affordance">affordances</a> for responding to specific comments and starting new conversations easier for people to identify and access.</p> <p><i>More information can be found in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267444" class="extiw" title="phab:T267444">T267444</a> and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255560" class="extiw" title="phab:T255560">T255560</a>.</i></p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"> <h4 id="Phase_3:_Framing_context" data-mw-thread-id="h-Phase_3:_Framing_context-Approach"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Phase_3:_Framing_context-Approach"></span>Phase 3: Framing context<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Phase_3:_Framing_context-Approach"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=42&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Phase 3: Framing context"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>In this last phase, we will introduce new page-level visual elements to help people immediately recognize talk pages as places where editors communicate and for them to assess the activity happening within the talk page they have landed upon.</p> <table class="wikitable floatright" width="50%"> <caption> Mockup of appearance change to Level 1 page title </caption> <tbody> <tr> <th>Current</th> <td><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r6296800">.mw-parser-output .fake-heading{color:#000000;background:none;margin:0;overflow:hidden;padding-bottom:0.17em;page-break-after:avoid;padding-top:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h1,.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h2{border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;margin-bottom:0.25em;margin-top:1em;padding:0;font-family:"Linux Libertine","Georgia","Times","Source Serif Pro",serif;line-height:1.375}body.skin-monobook .mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h1,body.skin-monobook .mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h2{font-family:inherit;line-height:inherit}body.skin-timeless .mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h1,body.skin-timeless .mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h2{border-bottom:3px solid #c8ccd1}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h1{font-size:1.8em}body.skin-timeless .mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h1{font-size:2em}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h2{font-size:1.5em}body.skin-timeless .mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h2{font-size:1.8em}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h3,.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h4,.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h5,.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h6{font-weight:bold;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0;padding-bottom:0;line-height:1.6}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h3{font-size:1.2em}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.h4{font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .fake-heading.in-frame{margin-top:0;padding-top:0}</style> <div class="fake-heading h1" style=""> Talk:Example page </div></td> </tr> <tr> <th>New style</th> <td> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r6296800"> <div class="fake-heading h1" style=""> Talk<span style="margin-right: 0.25em;">:</span>Example page </div></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p><i>More information can be found in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269963" class="extiw" title="phab:T269963">T269963</a>.</i></p> <p>This set of changes will include:</p> <ul> <li>A visual space between the "namespace" and "page" name portion of a talk page's title</li> <li>An indicator that describes, and links to, the latest comment published on a given talk page</li> <li>An "Add topic" button that will appear in in the sticky header <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Vector_(2022)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Vector (2022)">Vector (2022)</a> introduces (desktop only)</li> <li>Information within the new table of contents <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Vector_(2022)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Vector (2022)">Vector (2022)</a> introduces about the number of comments within a section</li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Design" data-mw-thread-id="h-Design"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Design"></span>Design<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Design"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=43&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Design"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <ul class="gallery mw-gallery-slideshow"> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_mockup_(mobile).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed design for mobile wikitext talk pages."><img alt="A mockup showing the proposed design for mobile wikitext talk pages." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Usability_Improvement_mockup_%28mobile%29.jpg/120px-Usability_Improvement_mockup_%28mobile%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="118" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528mobile%2529.jpg/180px-Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528mobile%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528mobile%2529.jpg/240px-Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528mobile%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2078" data-file-height="2044"></a></span> </div> <div class="gallerytext"> Proposed design for <b>mobile</b> wikitext talk pages. </div></li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_(mobile_overview).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description" title="An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for mobile wikitext talk pages (landing page view)."><img alt="An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for the mobile wikitext talk pages landing page view." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28mobile_overview%29.jpg/91px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28mobile_overview%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="91" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_overview%2529.jpg/136px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_overview%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_overview%2529.jpg/182px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_overview%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1496" data-file-height="1972"></a></span> </div> <div class="gallerytext"> An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for <b>mobile</b> wikitext talk pages (landing page view). </div></li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_(mobile_discussion).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description" title="An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for mobile wikitext talk pages (individual discussion view)."><img alt="An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for the mobile wikitext talk pages individual discussion view." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28mobile_discussion%29.jpg/87px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28mobile_discussion%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="87" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_discussion%2529.jpg/131px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_discussion%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_discussion%2529.jpg/175px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528mobile_discussion%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1490" data-file-height="2044"></a></span> </div> <div class="gallerytext"> An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for <b>mobile</b> wikitext talk pages (individual discussion view). </div></li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_mockup_(desktop).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed design for desktop wikitext talk pages."><img alt="A mockup showing the proposed design for desktop wikitext talk pages." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Usability_Improvement_mockup_%28desktop%29.jpg/120px-Usability_Improvement_mockup_%28desktop%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="85" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg/180px-Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg/240px-Usability_Improvement_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2864" data-file-height="2032"></a></span> </div> <div class="gallerytext"> Proposed design for <b>desktop</b> wikitext talk pages. </div></li> <li class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px"> <div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_(desktop).jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description" title="An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for desktop wikitext talk pages."><img alt="An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for desktop wikitext talk pages." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28desktop%29.jpg/120px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%28desktop%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="85" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg/180px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg/240px-Usability_Improvement_annotated_mockup_%2528desktop%2529.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2950" data-file-height="2100"></a></span> </div> <div class="gallerytext"> An annotated mockup showing the proposed design for <b>desktop</b> wikitext talk pages. </div></li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Background" data-mw-thread-id="h-Background"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Background"></span>Background<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Background"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=44&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Background"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Editing_team?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Editing team">Editing team</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Editing_team?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Editing team"> </a></span> is committed to evolving wikitext talk pages in a way that gives experienced contributors more leverage to coordinate their work and connect with other editors, while making the same communication and coordination practices and capabilities legible and intuitive for newer contributors.</p> <p>For these wikitext talk pages to be valuable, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Junior Contributors</a> need to intuitively recognize them as spaces to communicate with other volunteers and <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Senior Contributors</a> need to be able to spend minimal effort understanding the conversations happening on a given page.</p> <p>The trouble is, volunteers across experience levels report the current presentation of wikitext talk pages can make recognizing talk pages, understanding the conversations happening within them, and identifying what they need to click/tap to participate in these conversations unnecessarily difficult.</p> <p>Specifically, user feedback <sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>8<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-9"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>9<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-10"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>10<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-11" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-11"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>11<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-12"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>12<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-13"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>13<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-14"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>14<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>, usability tests<sup id="cite_ref-15" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-15"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>15<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-16"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>16<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_consultation_2019?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages consultation 2019">Talk Page Consultation</a> (see: <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Newcomers" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages consultation 2019/Phase 1 report">#Newcomers</a>, <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Confusion" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages consultation 2019/Phase 1 report">#Confusion</a>, and <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Design" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages consultation 2019/Phase 1 report">#Design</a>), and academic research<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> have highlighted the difficulties people have reading and using talk pages:</p> <blockquote class="templatequote"> <div class="Bug6200"> Talk pages and their current configuration proved confusing...For [some] participants, it took more than 4-5 minutes to understand the Talk page itself which was “disorganised” making it “difficult to take part in the discussion.” </div> <div class="templatequotecite"> —<i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://jodischneider.com/pubs/sac2011.pdf">Understanding and improving Wikipedia Article Discussion Spaces</a> </i> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote class="templatequote"> <div class="Bug6200"> I don't know what it means really to start a new discussion. Because none of this looks like a discussion. </div> <div class="templatequotecite"> —<i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://app.usertesting.com/c/e3dc66f2-951a-4c7b-a1b7-94b8286e2855?note_id%3Dclip-3354806%26shared_via%3Dlink">Junior Contributor usability test participant</a></i> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote class="templatequote"> <div class="Bug6200"> I often have trouble visually parsing long discussions on the WP:Help desk, for example. Sometimes, a discussion will involve three or more people and/or have five or more posts. Spacing between posts is not standardized, nor are signatures, nor is indentation, nor is the length of posts. Sometimes, people become confused and respond as if one person is the author of what another user has written. </div> <div class="templatequotecite"> —<i><a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk%253AQuisqualis">User:Quisqualis</a> writing in <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)/Archive_34%23Navigating_within_long-winded_discussions_by_way_of_a_visual_parsing_cue">Navigating within long-winded discussions...</a></i> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote class="templatequote"> <div class="Bug6200"> I felt I had to scan the page a lot for what i needed, as different elements didn't really stand out. It wasn't really obvious that i was looking at a message from someone... </div> <div class="templatequotecite"> —<i><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257281%236344895" class="extiw" title="phab:T257281">Junior Contributor usability test participant</a></i> </div> </blockquote> <p>By making the components that comprise talk pages conversations (e.g. conversation topics, conversation boundaries, comments, etc.) and the tools necessary for participating in them easier for people to parse, we are striving to:</p> <ol> <li>Increase the likelihood <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Junior Contributors</a> quickly recognize talk pages as spaces to communicate with other volunteers and locate the tools available to do so <i>and</i></li> <li>Increase the likelihood <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Senior Contributors</a> can quickly evaluate the level of activity happening on talk pages.</li> </ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="History" data-mw-thread-id="h-History"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-History"></span>History<span data-mw-comment-end="h-History"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=45&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: History"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>Many projects, conversations and research have, and are, working to improve contributors' experiences with talk pages. This project is better off for their existence. Some of the projects the team continues to learn from are listed on the <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#References" title="Talk pages project">main project page</a> and below. If there is a project you think we should be aware of, please boldly add it here.</p> <ul> <li><a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Template_talk:Fig/sandbox">https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Template_talk:Fig/sandbox</a></li> <li>Custom section calls to action at it.wiki: <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/2021_04_14%2314_aprile" class="extiw" title="it:Wikipedia:Bar/2021 04 14">Wikipedia:Bar/2021 04 14</a></li> <li>People using custom CSS change how talk pages appear: <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://global-search.toolforge.org/?namespaces%3D2%252C4%252C8%26q%3D%255C.ns-talk%2520dl%2520dl%2520dl%2520dl%2520dl%26regex%3D1%26title%3D%2528Gadgets-definition%257C.%252A%255C.css%2529">https://global-search.toolforge.org/?namespaces=2%2C4...</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jack_who_built_the_house/Convenient_Discussions" class="extiw" title="c:User:Jack who built the house/Convenient Discussions">Convenient Discussions</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/reply-link" class="extiw" title="en:User:Enterprisey/reply-link">reply-link</a></li> <li><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Collaboration/Flow_satisfaction_survey/Report" class="extiw" title="metawiki:Collaboration/Flow satisfaction survey/Report">Flow satisfaction survey</a></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Flow/Moderated_Testing,_November,_2014:_talk_pages_and_Flow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Flow/Moderated Testing, November, 2014: talk pages and Flow">Moderated Testing, November 2014: talk pages and Flow</a></li> <li><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages consultation 2019">Talk pages consultation</a></li> </ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="Glossary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Glossary"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Glossary"></span>Glossary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Glossary"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=46&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Glossary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p>The <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Glossary?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Glossary">Talk pages project glossary</a> is intended to help us all communicate about talk pages more effectively by making sure we have a shared understanding about the words we use in our discussions and documentation throughout the project.</p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References"></span>References<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Usability&action=edit&section=47&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <div class="mw-references-wrap mw-references-columns"> <ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"> <a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability/Prototype?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability/Prototype">Talk:Talk pages project/Usability/Prototype</a></span></li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Share_Feedback" title="Talk:Talk pages project/Usability">Talk:Talk pages project/Usability#Share Feedback</a></span></li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a 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href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-6">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Notifications?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Notifications">Talk pages project/Notifications</a><span style="display:none"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Notifications?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk pages project/Notifications"> </a></span></span></li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-7">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://jodischneider.com/pubs/sac2011.pdf">http://jodischneider.com/pubs/sac2011.pdf</a></span></li> <li id="cite_note-8"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-8">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://w.wiki/SjF">https://w.wiki/SjF</a></span></li> <li id="cite_note-9"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="https://www-mediawiki-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_ref-9">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a 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