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class="mw-diff-timestamp" data-timestamp="2024-11-27T19:53:48Z"></span> <span class="mw-diff-undo"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Title_blacklist&action=edit&undoafter=27870079&undo=27870218" title=""Undo" reverts this edit and opens the edit form in preview mode. It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" class="mw-userlink" title="User:Pppery" data-mw-revid="27870218"><bdi>Pppery</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Pppery">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pppery" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Pppery">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Meta:Interface_administrators" title="Meta:Interface administrators">Interface administrators</a>, <a href="/wiki/Meta:Administrators" title="Meta:Administrators">Administrators</a>, <a href="/wiki/Meta:Translation_administrators" title="Meta:Translation administrators">Translation administrators</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>16,668</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski">→<bdi dir="ltr">Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski</bdi></a>: </span> Re</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Title_blacklist&diff=next&oldid=27870218" title="Talk:Title blacklist" id="differences-nextlink">Newer edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:''See documentation page: [[:nl:Overleg gebruiker:Hristijan Kicho/blockmsg]] (list of globally locked accounts included; see the original request in the [[Steward requests/Global/2024-w10#Global lock for Hrtviki|SRG archive]])''<br />''See titleblacklisting on enwiki: [[:en:Special:Diff/1236060562|entries]]; [[:en:Special:PermanentLink/1259699940#Request preemptive creation protection of "Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski" variations|discussion]]''.<br />''More information on Meta-Wiki in the spam blacklist request: [[Special:PermanentLink/27567623#ekran.mk|permalink.]]''</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:''See documentation page: [[:nl:Overleg gebruiker:Hristijan Kicho/blockmsg]] (list of globally locked accounts included; see the original request in the [[Steward requests/Global/2024-w10#Global lock for Hrtviki|SRG archive]])''<br />''See titleblacklisting on enwiki: [[:en:Special:Diff/1236060562|entries]]; [[:en:Special:PermanentLink/1259699940#Request preemptive creation protection of "Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski" variations|discussion]]''.<br />''More information on Meta-Wiki in the spam blacklist request: [[Special:PermanentLink/27567623#ekran.mk|permalink.]]''</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>Persistent cross-wiki promospam campaign (first pages were created in 2010) perpetuated by lock-evading socks affecting cca two dozen Wikipedia language versions. In early 2024, creation sped up, but all of the articles under a variation of this name have recently been deleted, some summarily, some based on a consensus. There are no live pages linked to {{Q|Q109748846}} as of today. I waited for all such pages to be deleted on all language versions in order to post this request. Sporadic creation attempts continue. There is a draft at [[:hu:Cikkjelölt:Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski]] (creation attempted on November 20, and [https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciális:Rendszernaplók&page=Aleksandar+Sasha+Trajkovski intercepted]). I think that renewed attempts will intensify at gamed names in the future, and propose that this scenario be preempted, since much aggregate time of deleting administrators, as well as volunteers at various AfDs (checking Macedonian spam websites for whether they could be credible sources was an especially onerous and thankless task for editors who do not speak Macedonian) and noticeboards has been spent on dealing with this abuse.{{pb}}An interesting discussion is at [[:fr:Wikipédia:Bulletin des administrateurs/2024/Semaine 37#SI d'un article conservé en DDA]]: The article was kept in an AfD through low participation and difficulty of determining eligibility, but was then deleted as abuse by the admin who noticed what's going on after the promoter reached out to him in a fashion similar to how the promoter originally reached out to me, revealing their promotional agenda: [[:en:User talk:Alalch E./Archive 2#Thank you]], followed by admissions to same effect: [[:en:Special:PermanentLink/1208733884#February 2024|talk page]] ({{tqq|... as I previously helped Irena Jordanova, Apostolova, Savo, Atanas, and indirectly 100 other poets}}); [[:en:Special:Diff/1208672085|incident]].—[[User:Alalch E.|Alalch E.]] ([[User talk:Alalch E.|talk]]) 17:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>Persistent cross-wiki promospam campaign (first pages were created in 2010) perpetuated by lock-evading socks affecting cca two dozen Wikipedia language versions. In early 2024, creation sped up, but all of the articles under a variation of this name have recently been deleted, some summarily, some based on a consensus. There are no live pages linked to {{Q|Q109748846}} as of today. I waited for all such pages to be deleted on all language versions in order to post this request. Sporadic creation attempts continue. There is a draft at [[:hu:Cikkjelölt:Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski]] (creation attempted on November 20, and [https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciális:Rendszernaplók&page=Aleksandar+Sasha+Trajkovski intercepted]). I think that renewed attempts will intensify at gamed names in the future, and propose that this scenario be preempted, since much aggregate time of deleting administrators, as well as volunteers at various AfDs (checking Macedonian spam websites for whether they could be credible sources was an especially onerous and thankless task for editors who do not speak Macedonian) and noticeboards has been spent on dealing with this abuse.{{pb}}An interesting discussion is at [[:fr:Wikipédia:Bulletin des administrateurs/2024/Semaine 37#SI d'un article conservé en DDA]]: The article was kept in an AfD through low participation and difficulty of determining eligibility, but was then deleted as abuse by the admin who noticed what's going on after the promoter reached out to him in a fashion similar to how the promoter originally reached out to me, revealing their promotional agenda: [[:en:User talk:Alalch E./Archive 2#Thank you]], followed by admissions to same effect: [[:en:Special:PermanentLink/1208733884#February 2024|talk page]] ({{tqq|... as I previously helped Irena Jordanova, Apostolova, Savo, Atanas, and indirectly 100 other poets}}); [[:en:Special:Diff/1208672085|incident]].—[[User:Alalch E.|Alalch E.]] ([[User talk:Alalch E.|talk]]) 17:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>: I don't think it's appropriate to globally blacklist "Aleksandar Trajkovski" because the footballer with the same name has an article in 20 wikis and could easily be translated into more wikis. Fine with blacklisting "Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski", or maybe just "Sasha Trajkovski" in principle. Unfortunately there's don't seem to be any reasonable tools to measure the impact of an entry here (https://global-search.toolforge.org doesn't like the complicated regexes I was trying to use, and using PAWS to query every single wiki's database with a regex is very slow). [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub>]] 19:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>==Proposed removals==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>==Proposed removals==</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Revision as of 19:53, 27 November 2024</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r27574818">.mw-parser-output .ts-Process_header-headerBox{align-items:center;background-color:var(--background-color-success-subtle,#dfd);color:var(--color-base,black);border:1px solid #00af89;display:flex;flex-flow:row;justify-content:space-between;margin:2px 0 .5em;padding:.25em .5em}.mw-parser-output .ts-Process_header-controls{padding:0 1em;width:20%}.mw-parser-output .ts-Process_header-header{text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ts-Process_header-notes{background:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-emphasized,#101418);border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);margin:.5em 0 1em;padding:1em 1.5em}</style> <div class="ts-Process_header-headerBox" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="process-header-header" style="flex-flow: row;"> <div class="ts-Process_header-controls" style="text-align: left;">←<a href="/wiki/WM:IRP" class="mw-redirect" title="WM:IRP">Requests and proposals</a></div> <div class="ts-Process_header-header" id="process-header-header"><b>Title blacklist</b> </div> <div class="ts-Process_header-controls" style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist/Archives" title="Talk:Title blacklist/Archives">Archives</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist/Archives/2024" title="Talk:Title blacklist/Archives/2024">current</a>)→</div> </div> <div class="ts-Process_header-notes" role="note"><div class="noprint shortcut shortcut-ltr" dir="auto" lang=""><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r27790406">.mw-parser-output .shortcut{margin:2px;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);color:var(--color-emphasized,#101418);padding:.5em;font-size:smaller;line-height:normal;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .shortcut-ltr{float:right;margin-right:0}.mw-parser-output .shortcut-rtl{float:left;margin-left:0}</style><a href="/wiki/Meta:Shortcuts" class="mw-redirect" title="Meta:Shortcuts"><bdi lang="en">Shortcut</bdi></a>: <br/><a href="/wiki/WM:TBL" class="mw-redirect" title="WM:TBL">WM:TBL</a></div>The associated page is used by the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist">TitleBlacklist MediaWiki extension</a>, and lists strings of regular expressions that may not be used as page titles or usernames on any Wikimedia projects. Any Meta-Wiki <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Meta:Administrators" title="Special:MyLanguage/Meta:Administrators">administrator</a> or <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Stewards" title="Special:MyLanguage/Stewards">steward</a> can edit this blacklist. <p>For more information on what the title blacklist is for, and the processes used here, please see <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Title_blacklist/About" title="Special:MyLanguage/Title blacklist/About">Title blacklist/About</a>. </p><p>Please post comments to the appropriate section below: <i><a href="#Proposed_additions">Proposed additions</a></i>, <b><a href="#Proposed_removals">Proposed removals</a></b>, or <i><a href="#Troubleshooting_and_problems">Troubleshooting and problems</a></i>, read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. Also, please check back some time after submitting, there could be questions regarding your request. 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data-file-height="128"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td> <td><a href="/wiki/User:SpBot" title="User:SpBot">SpBot</a> archives all sections tagged with <bdi lang="en"><code>{{<a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Template:Section_resolved" title="Special:MyLanguage/Template:Section resolved">Section resolved</a>|1=~~~~}}</code></bdi> after 1 day. </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p><small style="color:gray;" id="oldid" class="plainlinks">snippet for <a href="/wiki/Title_blacklist/Log" title="Title blacklist/Log">logging</a>: {{tbl-log|27870218#{{subst:anchorencode:SectionNameHere}}}}</small> </p><p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_additions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_additions-20241127171000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_additions-20241127171000"></span>Proposed additions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_additions-20241127171000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Pppery-20241127195300-Alalch_E.-20241127171000">5 days ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table role="presentation" style="margin:2px auto;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);border-collapse:collapse;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-base,#202122);padding:1px;width:80%;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;"> <tbody><tr valign="middle"> <td style="border:none;padding:2px;width:50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/50px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="51" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/75px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/100px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> </td> <td style="border:none;padding:2px">This section is for proposing that a page title be blacklisted; add new entries at the <i>bottom</i> of the section. <b>Provide links demonstrating widespread creation by multiple users or IP's.</b> Completed requests will be marked as done or denied and <a href="/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist/Archives" title="Talk:Title blacklist/Archives">archived</a>. <ul><li>Proposed usernames can be checked at <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/meta/gusersearch/" class="extiw" title="toollabs:meta/gusersearch/">toollabs:meta/gusersearch/</a></li> <li>Proposed Pagetitles can be checked at <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/global-search" class="extiw" title="toollabs:global-search">toollabs:global-search</a></li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski-Proposed_additions-20241127171000"><span id="Aleksandar_Sa.C5.A1a_Trajkovski"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski-Proposed_additions-20241127171000"></span>Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski-Proposed_additions-20241127171000"></span></h3></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alalch_E.-20241127171000-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski"></span>See documentation page: <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Hristijan_Kicho/blockmsg" class="extiw" title="nl:Overleg gebruiker:Hristijan Kicho/blockmsg">nl:Overleg gebruiker:Hristijan Kicho/blockmsg</a> (list of globally locked accounts included; see the original request in the <a href="/wiki/Steward_requests/Global/2024-w10#Global_lock_for_Hrtviki" title="Steward requests/Global/2024-w10">SRG archive</a>)</i><br/><i>See titleblacklisting on enwiki: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1236060562" class="extiw" title="en:Special:Diff/1236060562">entries</a>; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1259699940#Request_preemptive_creation_protection_of_"Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski"_variations" class="extiw" title="en:Special:PermanentLink/1259699940">discussion</a></i>.<br/><i>More information on Meta-Wiki in the spam blacklist request: <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/27567623#ekran.mk" title="Special:PermanentLink/27567623">permalink.</a></i></dd></dl><p> Persistent cross-wiki promospam campaign (first pages were created in 2010) perpetuated by lock-evading socks affecting cca two dozen Wikipedia language versions. In early 2024, creation sped up, but all of the articles under a variation of this name have recently been deleted, some summarily, some based on a consensus. There are no live pages linked to <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q109748846" class="extiw" title="d:Q109748846">Aleksandar-Saša Trajkovski <small>(Q109748846)</small></a> as of today. I waited for all such pages to be deleted on all language versions in order to post this request. Sporadic creation attempts continue. There is a draft at <a href="https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cikkjel%C3%B6lt:Aleksandar_Sasha_Trajkovski" class="extiw" title="hu:Cikkjelölt:Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski">hu:Cikkjelölt:Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski</a> (creation attempted on November 20, and <a class="external text" href="https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciális:Rendszernaplók&page=Aleksandar+Sasha+Trajkovski">intercepted</a>). I think that renewed attempts will intensify at gamed names in the future, and propose that this scenario be preempted, since much aggregate time of deleting administrators, as well as volunteers at various AfDs (checking Macedonian spam websites for whether they could be credible sources was an especially onerous and thankless task for editors who do not speak Macedonian) and noticeboards has been spent on dealing with this abuse.</p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p>An interesting discussion is at <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Bulletin_des_administrateurs/2024/Semaine_37#SI_d'un_article_conservé_en_DDA" class="extiw" title="fr:Wikipédia:Bulletin des administrateurs/2024/Semaine 37">fr:Wikipédia:Bulletin des administrateurs/2024/Semaine 37#SI d'un article conservé en DDA</a>: The article was kept in an AfD through low participation and difficulty of determining eligibility, but was then deleted as abuse by the admin who noticed what's going on after the promoter reached out to him in a fashion similar to how the promoter originally reached out to me, revealing their promotional agenda: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alalch_E./Archive_2#Thank_you" class="extiw" title="en:User talk:Alalch E./Archive 2">en:User talk:Alalch E./Archive 2#Thank you</a>, followed by admissions to same effect: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1208733884#February_2024" class="extiw" title="en:Special:PermanentLink/1208733884">talk page</a> (<span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa); color:var(--color-success,#14866d);">"... as I previously helped Irena Jordanova, Apostolova, Savo, Atanas, and indirectly 100 other poets"</span>); <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1208672085" class="extiw" title="en:Special:Diff/1208672085">incident</a>.—<a href="/wiki/User:Alalch_E." title="User:Alalch E.">Alalch E.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alalch_E." title="User talk:Alalch E.">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-Alalch_E.-20241127171000-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alalch_E.-20241127171000-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alalch_E.-20241127171000-Aleksandar_Saša_Trajkovski"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241127195300-Alalch_E.-20241127171000"></span>I don't think it's appropriate to globally blacklist "Aleksandar Trajkovski" because the footballer with the same name has an article in 20 wikis and could easily be translated into more wikis. Fine with blacklisting "Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski", or maybe just "Sasha Trajkovski" in principle. Unfortunately there's don't seem to be any reasonable tools to measure the impact of an entry here (<a class="external free" href="https://global-search.toolforge.org">https://global-search.toolforge.org</a> doesn't like the complicated regexes I was trying to use, and using PAWS to query every single wiki's database with a regex is very slow). <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub></a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-Pppery-20241127195300-Alalch_E.-20241127171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241127195300-Alalch_E.-20241127171000"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241127195300-Alalch_E.-20241127171000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_removals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_removals-20241122225100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_removals-20241122225100"></span>Proposed removals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_removals-20241122225100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Pppery-20241124053400-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400">8 days ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table role="presentation" style="margin:2px auto;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);border-collapse:collapse;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-base,#202122);padding:1px;width:100%;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;"> <tbody><tr valign="middle"> <td style="border:none;padding:2px;width:50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/50px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="51" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/75px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/100px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> </td> <td style="border:none;padding:2px">This section is for proposing that a title be <i>un</i>listed; <b>please add new entries at the <i>bottom</i> of the section</b>. Remember to provide the specific title or regex blacklisted, links to the articles they are used in or useful to, and arguments in favour of unlisting. Completed requests will be marked as done or denied and <a href="/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist/Archives" title="Talk:Title blacklist/Archives">archived</a>. The addition or removal of a title is <b>not a vote</b>, please do not bold the first words in statements. </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Krimpet" data-mw-thread-id="h-Krimpet-Proposed_removals-20241122225100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Krimpet-Proposed_removals-20241122225100"></span>Krimpet<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Krimpet-Proposed_removals-20241122225100"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-181.79.234.90-20241122225100-Krimpet"></span>I propose removing <code>.*Kr[i1l]mpet.*</code>. This user <a href="/wiki/User:Fran_Rogers" title="User:Fran Rogers">Fran Rogers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fran_Rogers" title="User talk:Fran Rogers">talk</a><span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fran_Rogers" title="Special:Contributions/Fran Rogers">contribs</a>), previously known as <a href="/wiki/User:Krimpet" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Krimpet">Krimpet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Krimpet" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Krimpet">talk</a><span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Krimpet" title="Special:Contributions/Krimpet">contribs</a>) has been inactive for almost 10 years. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/181.79.234.90" title="Special:Contributions/181.79.234.90">181.79.234.90</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-181.79.234.90-20241122225100-Krimpet" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-181.79.234.90-20241122225100-Krimpet"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-181.79.234.90-20241122225100-Krimpet"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400-181.79.234.90-20241122225100"></span>Is the pattern causing issues? <a href="/wiki/User:XXBlackburnXx" title="User:XXBlackburnXx">XXBlackburnXx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XXBlackburnXx" title="User talk:XXBlackburnXx">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400-181.79.234.90-20241122225100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400-181.79.234.90-20241122225100"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400-181.79.234.90-20241122225100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241124053400-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400"></span>I would assume 181.79.234.90 ended up here because they wanted to create an account that matched that rule. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub></a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-Pppery-20241124053400-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241124053400-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241124053400-XXBlackburnXx-20241124031400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Troubleshooting_and_problems" data-mw-thread-id="h-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123115000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123115000"></span>Troubleshooting and problems<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123115000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-TTWIDEE-20241125193900-TTWIDEE-20241125085700">7 days ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>8 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table role="presentation" style="margin:2px auto;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);border-collapse:collapse;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-base,#202122);padding:1px;width:100%;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;"> <tbody><tr valign="middle"> <td style="border:none;padding:2px;width:50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/50px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="51" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/75px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/100px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> </td> <td style="border:none;padding:2px">This section is for comments related to problems with the blacklist (such as incorrect syntax or entries not being blocked), or problems saving a page because of a blacklisted title. This is <i>not</i> the section to request that an entry be unlisted (see <b>Proposed removals</b> above). </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Lose_x_pounds" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lose_x_pounds-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123115000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lose_x_pounds-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123115000"></span>Lose x pounds<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lose_x_pounds-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123115000"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TTWIDEE-20241123115000-Lose_x_pounds"></span>The rule <code>\blose \d\d pounds <autoconfirmed></code> has "\b" at the start, which has no effect, because the whole page title has to match, and the beginning of the page title counts as a word boundary. I'm guessing that the intention here was to have it match anywhere within the page title, and that whoever added this rule didn't realise that the blacklist doesn't do partial matches by default, because it would be weird to have "\b" in there for no reason. In that case, let's replace this rule with <code>.*\blose \d\d pounds.* <autoconfirmed></code>. Unfortunately, the addition of this rule has not been properly logged—it does appear in <a href="/wiki/Title_blacklist/Log/2018/09" title="Title blacklist/Log/2018/09">the log page for September 2018</a>, but that log page doesn't have a link to the diff where this rule was added, so we'd have to do a lot of manual crawling to find the diff. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">TTWIDEE</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-TTWIDEE-20241123115000-Lose_x_pounds" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TTWIDEE-20241123115000-Lose_x_pounds"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TTWIDEE-20241123115000-Lose_x_pounds"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b style="white-space:nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241123154900-TTWIDEE-20241123115000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/User:XXBlackburnXx" title="User:XXBlackburnXx">XXBlackburnXx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XXBlackburnXx" title="User talk:XXBlackburnXx">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-XXBlackburnXx-20241123154900-TTWIDEE-20241123115000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241123154900-TTWIDEE-20241123115000"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241123154900-TTWIDEE-20241123115000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Fuerdai" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fuerdai-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123200300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fuerdai-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123200300"></span>Fuerdai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fuerdai-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241123200300"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TTWIDEE-20241123200300-Fuerdai"></span>The rule <code style="white-space: nowrap;">.* fu[a-z]{1,5}?rdai. *</code> ends in " *", so it will check for zero or more spaces at the end of the page title, which has no effect, because the MediaWiki software automatically strips trailing spaces anyway. I think the space before the final "*" is probably a typo, so let's replace this rule with <code style="white-space: nowrap;">.* fu[a-z]{1,5}?rdai.*</code>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">TTWIDEE</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-TTWIDEE-20241123200300-Fuerdai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TTWIDEE-20241123200300-Fuerdai"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TTWIDEE-20241123200300-Fuerdai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b style="white-space:nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124030600-TTWIDEE-20241123200300"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/User:XXBlackburnXx" title="User:XXBlackburnXx">XXBlackburnXx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XXBlackburnXx" title="User talk:XXBlackburnXx">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124030600-TTWIDEE-20241123200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124030600-TTWIDEE-20241123200300"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XXBlackburnXx-20241124030600-TTWIDEE-20241123200300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Apostrophe_weirdness" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apostrophe_weirdness-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241124204400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apostrophe_weirdness-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241124204400"></span>Apostrophe weirdness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apostrophe_weirdness-Troubleshooting_and_problems-20241124204400"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TTWIDEE-20241124204400-Apostrophe_weirdness"></span>There's a rule which is given in the source code as <code>.*''.* <newaccountonly> # ''This rule blocks new usernames with two consecutive apostrophes in a row - the apostrophes are interpreted as wikitext in the render</code> (extraneous spaces removed for brevity), and the combination of the two pairs of apostrophes causes the text between them to render in italics if you're not using the source view, which is confusing. We should probably remove the second pair of apostrophes to fix this. </p><p>However, that would cause a potentially much bigger italics issue if there are ever any subsequent rules or comments that contain <code>''</code>. I don't think there'd be a huge need for pairs of apostrophes in other rules, but it's worth keeping in mind. Maybe we could add a comment at the top warning about this issue, and just not use <code>''</code> in any subsequent rules or comments. Obviously, using <code>&apos;&apos;</code> would cause a pair of apostrophes to render when viewing the blacklist, but (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think the title blacklist extension would process the HTML entities, so that would cause rules using this approach to match page titles/usernames containing <code>&apos;&apos;</code> instead of ones containing <code>''</code>, which is obviously not desirable. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">TTWIDEE</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-TTWIDEE-20241124204400-Apostrophe_weirdness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TTWIDEE-20241124204400-Apostrophe_weirdness"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TTWIDEE-20241124204400-Apostrophe_weirdness"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241124232800-TTWIDEE-20241124204400"></span>I intentionally added the second pair of apostrophes there - previously it was rendering as <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Title_blacklist&oldid=27687968"><code>.*.* <newaccountonly></code></a>, which looked like it was blocking all accounts. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub></a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-Pppery-20241124232800-TTWIDEE-20241124204400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241124232800-TTWIDEE-20241124204400"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241124232800-TTWIDEE-20241124204400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TTWIDEE-20241125085700-Pppery-20241124232800"></span>OK, so I guess we're just stuck with the confusing italics. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">TTWIDEE</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-TTWIDEE-20241125085700-Pppery-20241124232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TTWIDEE-20241125085700-Pppery-20241124232800"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TTWIDEE-20241125085700-Pppery-20241124232800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TTWIDEE-20241125193900-TTWIDEE-20241125085700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a> Actually, we could escape the apostrophes as <code>\x{0027}</code>. We'd still need a comment to explain what it is, because we can't expect everyone to remember loads of Unicode codes, but it would certainly look clearer that it currently does. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">TTWIDEE</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TTWIDEE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TTWIDEE (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Title_blacklist#c-TTWIDEE-20241125193900-TTWIDEE-20241125085700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TTWIDEE-20241125193900-TTWIDEE-20241125085700"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TTWIDEE-20241125193900-TTWIDEE-20241125085700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Title_blacklist&oldid=27870218">https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Title_blacklist&oldid=27870218</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Special:Categories" title="Special:Categories">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Projects" title="Category:Projects">Projects</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Title_blacklist" title="Category:Title blacklist">Title blacklist</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 November 2024, at 19:53.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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