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Relevant policies and guidelines may include <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">conflict of interest</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography" title="Wikipedia:Autobiography">autobiography</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">neutral point of view</a>. <br/>Their edits to this article were last checked for neutrality on 7 June 2022 by <a href="/wiki/User:ElijahPepe" title="User:ElijahPepe">ElijahPepe</a>. <span style="font-size:85%;"><span class="error">Error: Disclosures that use the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|checked=</code> parameter should also use <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|editedhere=yes</code> for at least one contributor.</span></span> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:ElijahPepe" title="User:ElijahPepe">ElijahPepe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ElijahPepe" title="User talk:ElijahPepe">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ElijahPepe" title="Special:Contributions/ElijahPepe">contribs</a>) This user has declared a connection. (<a href="/wiki/User:ElijahPepe" title="User:ElijahPepe">declared here</a>)</li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sales_by_country" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sales_by_country-20220808135800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sales_by_country-20220808135800"></span>Sales by country<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sales_by_country-20220808135800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tesla_Model_S&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Sales by country"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenova20-20220808135800-Sales_by_country"></span>The table under the Sales by Country section has percentages for each country of the total worldwide sales...They're all wrong. I don't know how they were calculated but they all appear to be wrong. Someone with more time than me will have to sort that (I'm semi-retired). Thanks <b><a href="/wiki/User:Jenova20" title="User:Jenova20">ツ <span style="background:pink"><span style="color:crimson; font-family:comic sans ms">Jenova</span></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenova20" title="User talk:Jenova20"><span style="color:red">20</span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Jenova20" title="Special:EmailUser/Jenova20">email</a>)</sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Jenova20-20220808135800-Sales_by_country" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenova20-20220808135800-Sales_by_country"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenova20-20220808135800-Sales_by_country"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dllu-20221222072000-Jenova20-20220808135800"></span>Not only that, it hasn't been updated since 2018 or something and the electric car landscape has changed vastly in the meanwhile. Somewhere in the article it says that the Model S is the second best selling electric car when in fact the Model 3 and Y have eclipsed it long ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Dllu" title="User:Dllu">dllu</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dllu" title="User talk:Dllu">(t</a>,<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dllu" title="Special:Contributions/Dllu">c)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Dllu-20221222072000-Jenova20-20220808135800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:20, 22 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dllu-20221222072000-Jenova20-20220808135800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dllu-20221222072000-Jenova20-20220808135800"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200-Dllu-20221222072000"></span>If you have references, then you are more than welcome to update them yourself. Ask for help if you need it. <span style="border:1px solid blue;border-radius:4px;color:blue;box-shadow: 3px 3px 4px grey;"><a href="/wiki/User:Stepho-wrs" title="User:Stepho-wrs"><b> Stepho </b></a> <span style="font-size:xx-small; vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepho-wrs" title="User talk:Stepho-wrs">talk</a> </span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200-Dllu-20221222072000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 23 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200-Dllu-20221222072000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200-Dllu-20221222072000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dllu-20221228224600-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200"></span>For example, here are the sales figures for the third quarter: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-third-quarter">[1]</a> and it is straightforward to find the figures for every quarter prior to then. Since I work at Tesla, I have a conflict of interest so I will abstain from editing the article directly; however, in the upcoming days, if I have time, I can write some draft sections and suggest them with <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Request_edit" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Request edit">request edit</a>}}</code>. <a href="/wiki/User:Dllu" title="User:Dllu">dllu</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dllu" title="User talk:Dllu">(t</a>,<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dllu" title="Special:Contributions/Dllu">c)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Dllu-20221228224600-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 28 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dllu-20221228224600-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dllu-20221228224600-Stepho-wrs-20221223065200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Body_conversions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Body_conversions-20230425104600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Body_conversions-20230425104600"></span>Body conversions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Body_conversions-20230425104600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tesla_Model_S&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Body conversions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600-Body_conversions"></span>There are three shooting brake conversions commercially available, should these be mentioned? Wiki pages for other car models sometimes includes this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA" title="Special:Contributions/2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA">2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600-Body_conversions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600-Body_conversions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600-Body_conversions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepho-wrs-20230425112700-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600"></span>It is rare for us to mention custom (ie non-factory) modifications on any car article. If we did, each article would have a near-endless list of modifications possible to the body, engine, brakes, suspension, etc. The particular modifications are often limited in geographical location and the time period they are offered for, so they are of limited use to the majority of readers. So we restrict ourselves to factory offerings. <span style="border:1px solid blue;border-radius:4px;color:blue;box-shadow: 3px 3px 4px grey;"><a href="/wiki/User:Stepho-wrs" title="User:Stepho-wrs"><b> Stepho </b></a> <span style="font-size:xx-small; vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepho-wrs" title="User talk:Stepho-wrs">talk</a> </span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Stepho-wrs-20230425112700-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepho-wrs-20230425112700-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepho-wrs-20230425112700-2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA-20230425104600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Version_section_needs_a_rework" data-mw-thread-id="h-Version_section_needs_a_rework-20240708120100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Version_section_needs_a_rework-20240708120100"></span>Version section needs a rework<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Version_section_needs_a_rework-20240708120100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tesla_Model_S&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Version section needs a rework"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NilsTillander-20240708120100-Version_section_needs_a_rework"></span>The version section is an absolute mess. Some versions get a long text, some don't, some references are made to models that aren't describbed ("The 70D replaced the 60, 60D, and P85", with no 60D ever mentioned), one of the images mentions a P85+, which isn't talked about anywhere... I suggest that the section is replaced by a table like this (<b>values are from <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://blog.clutch.ca/posts/understanding-the-different-tesla-model-s-versions">https://blog.clutch.ca/posts/understanding-the-different-tesla-model-s-versions</a> , to be checked before the table is added, maybe data from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ev-database.org/compare/second-hand-used-electric-vehicle-archive#sort:path~type~order=.date_from~number~asc%7Cmake-checkbox-dropdown:pathGroup=.tesla%7Csize-checkbox-dropdown:pathGroup=.size-f%7Cbodyshape-checkbox-dropdown:pathGroup=.shape-sedan%7Crs-price:prev~next=10000~100000%7Crs-range:prev~next=0~1000%7Crs-fastcharge:prev~next=0~1500%7Crs-acceleration:prev~next=2~23%7Crs-topspeed:prev~next=110~350%7Crs-battery:prev~next=10~200%7Crs-towweight:prev~next=0~2500%7Crs-eff:prev~next=100~350%7Crs-safety:prev~next=-1~5%7Cpaging:currentPage=0%7Cpaging:number=10">ev-database.org</a> </b>): </p> <table class="wikitable sortable"> <caption>Versions of the Model S - the number in the name relates to the battery vapacity in kWh, "P" indicate a Performance version, and "D" an AWD version. </caption> <tbody><tr> <th>Version</th> <th>Build period</th> <th>motor specification</th> <th>range</th> <th>Notes </th></tr> <tr> <td>40</td> <td>2013-2013</td> <td>Back 235hp and 317lb-ft</td> <td>224km (NRCAN)</td> <td>Very small production run </td></tr> <tr> <td>60</td> <td>2013-2019</td> <td>Back 302hp and 317lb-ft</td> <td>335km (NRCAN)</td> <td>motor updated to 315hp in 2015 </td></tr> <tr> <td>85</td> <td>2013-2016</td> <td>Back 362hp and 325lb-ft</td> <td>426km (NRCAN)</td> <td>motor updated to 380hp in 2015 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Performace (85)</td> <td>2013-2014</td> <td>Back 416hp and 443lb-ft</td> <td>426km (NRCAN)</td> <td>motor updated to 380hp in 2015, its that the P85+? </td></tr> <tr> <td>90</td> <td>2015-2016</td> <td>Back 362hp and 325lb-ft</td> <td>426km (NRCAN)</td> <td>First with option for AutoPilot </td></tr> <tr> <td>70D</td> <td>2015-2016</td> <td>Back 328p and ???lb-ft, front ??</td> <td>386km (NRCAN)</td> <td>First AWD version </td></tr> <tr> <td>85D</td> <td>2015-2016</td> <td>Back 376hp and ???lb-ft</td> <td>435km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>P85D</td> <td>2015-2016</td> <td>Combined 691hp and ???lb-ft</td> <td>407km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>P90D</td> <td>2015-2017</td> <td>Combined 691hp and ???lb-ft</td> <td>426km (NRCAN)</td> <td>range up to 435km in 2016+ models </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="5" style="color:black;background: #FEE7D6;vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">Facelift from black nose cone to the new body coloured facia </td></tr> <tr> <td>70</td> <td>2016-2016</td> <td>Back 315hp and 325lb-ft</td> <td>377km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>75</td> <td>2016-2018</td> <td>Back 315hp and 325lb-ft</td> <td>401km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>60D</td> <td>2016-2017</td> <td>Combined 328hp and 387lb-ft</td> <td>351km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>75D</td> <td>2016-2017</td> <td>Combined 328hp and 387lb-ft</td> <td>417km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>90D</td> <td>2016-2017</td> <td>Combined 417hp and 485lb-ft</td> <td>473km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>P100D</td> <td>2016-2019</td> <td>Combined 503hp and ???lb-ft</td> <td>507km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>100D</td> <td>2017-2019</td> <td>Combined ???hp and ???lb-ft</td> <td>539km (NRCAN)</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="5" style="color:black;background: #FEE7D6;vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">Abbandon of (P)kWh(D) naming scheme </td></tr> <tr> <td>Standard Range</td> <td>2019-2019</td> <td>Front 382hp and back 260hp</td> <td>459km (NRCAN)</td> <td>Replaced 60D and 75D </td></tr> <tr> <td>Long Range</td> <td>2019-2021</td> <td>Combined 541hp</td> <td>595km (NRCAN)</td> <td>Replaced 100D, range up to 600km in 2020 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Performance</td> <td>2019-2021</td> <td>Combined ???hp</td> <td>555km (NRCAN)</td> <td>Replace the P100D, "Raven" drivetrain </td></tr> <tr> <td>Long Range Plus</td> <td>2020-2021</td> <td>Combined 541hp</td> <td>629km (NRCAN)</td> <td>"Raven" drivetrain </td></tr> <tr> <td>Plaid</td> <td>2021-</td> <td>Combined 1020hp</td> <td>630km (NRCAN)</td> <td>First Tri-motor version </td></tr> <tr> <td>S</td> <td>2022-</td> <td>Combined 670hp</td> <td>652km (NRCAN)</td> <td>"Palladium" </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>With a break at the facia redesign. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NilsTillander&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NilsTillander (page does not exist)">NilsTillander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NilsTillander" title="User talk:NilsTillander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-NilsTillander-20240708120100-Version_section_needs_a_rework" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NilsTillander-20240708120100-Version_section_needs_a_rework"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NilsTillander-20240708120100-Version_section_needs_a_rework"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600-NilsTillander-20240708120100"></span>Your scheme looks fine in general. Thinking about international readers and readers not well versed in car stuff, some details to change are: <ol><li>What does "NRCAN" mean? A link would be good.</li> <li>Values and symbols should have a space between them - see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CARUNITS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CARUNITS">WP:CARUNITS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNITS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNITS">WP:UNITS</a>.</li> <li>Those "hp" and "lb-ft" look suspiciously like power and torque figures but in ancient units used by our grandfathers - see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CARUNITS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CARUNITS">WP:CARUNITS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNITS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNITS">WP:UNITS</a>.</li> <li>"??" values should be left blank.</li> <li>"Abbandon of (P)kWh(D) naming scheme", misspelling of "abandon". Perhaps replace with "After (P)xx(D) naming scheme abandoned".</li> <li>Are those calendar years or model years? Non-Americans mostly use calendar years and do not understand US style model years. Americans assume model years unless told different.</li></ol></dd> <dd>But these are minor things that can be tweaked. <span style="border:1px solid blue;border-radius:4px;color:blue;box-shadow: 3px 3px 4px grey;"><a href="/wiki/User:Stepho-wrs" title="User:Stepho-wrs"><b> Stepho </b></a> <span style="font-size:xx-small; vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepho-wrs" title="User talk:Stepho-wrs">talk</a> </span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600-NilsTillander-20240708120100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600-NilsTillander-20240708120100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600-NilsTillander-20240708120100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NilsTillander-20240802175100-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600"></span>Hei @<a href="/wiki/User:Stepho-wrs" title="User:Stepho-wrs">Stepho-wrs</a>,</dd> <dd>Thank you for your input! <ul><li>I put NRCAN values here (the canadian authority for car stuff, I assume), but maybe having the US and EU standards listed (as well?) would be best. It is rather tricky to source the data for all models.</li> <li>Good point for units</li> <li>I agree that kW and N⋅m are the better units, but the car industry still mostly communicates in hp and lb-ft. I would convert the values before publishing the table as well.</li> <li>Yes, I was hoping for other users to chime in before the table makes it to the page</li> <li>ok</li> <li>These are production years. Tesla doesn't use the odd American "model year" concept, as far as I know.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NilsTillander&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NilsTillander (page does not exist)">NilsTillander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NilsTillander" title="User talk:NilsTillander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-NilsTillander-20240802175100-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NilsTillander-20240802175100-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NilsTillander-20240802175100-Stepho-wrs-20240711001600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hit_piece-ish" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hit_piece-ish-20241030153900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hit_piece-ish-20241030153900"></span>Hit piece-ish<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hit_piece-ish-20241030153900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tesla_Model_S&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Hit piece-ish"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-37.188.184.244-20241030153900-Hit_piece-ish"></span>Somehow, nearly every section has to stay from factual and balanced data into negative and misleading coverage territory. It is true that media coverage of Tesla vehicles has always had that sort of cognitive dissonance and that Wackopedia likes to rely on (selected) mass media for its plagi^H quotes but I wonder if that is the only reason. </p><p>It makes for very distracting reading when one comes here looking for cold, hard facts (don't be childish and try to argue that 'piece of bullshit X' is a cold hard fact, if you're of sound mind you know exactly what I mean). <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/37.188.184.244" title="Special:Contributions/37.188.184.244">37.188.184.244</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:37.188.184.244&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:37.188.184.244 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-37.188.184.244-20241030153900-Hit_piece-ish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-37.188.184.244-20241030153900-Hit_piece-ish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-37.188.184.244-20241030153900-Hit_piece-ish"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-750h+-20241030233500-37.188.184.244-20241030153900"></span>Confused here. The article is 100% cited via reliable sources. It’s a comprehensive article, so i have no idea what you’re talking about. <a href="/wiki/User:750h%2B" title="User:750h+">750</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:750h%2B" title="User talk:750h+">h+</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-750h+-20241030233500-37.188.184.244-20241030153900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-750h+-20241030233500-37.188.184.244-20241030153900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-750h+-20241030233500-37.188.184.244-20241030153900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100-750h+-20241030233500"></span>Or to put it another way, point out a couple of concrete examples of where we got it wrong. Once we know what the issue is then we can see if it is a systematic problem throughout the article.</dd> <dd>Re: Wackopedia, childish - name calling isn't the way to encourage us volunteers to help you. <span style="border:1px solid blue;border-radius:4px;color:blue;box-shadow: 3px 3px 4px grey;"><a href="/wiki/User:Stepho-wrs" title="User:Stepho-wrs"><b> Stepho </b></a> <span style="font-size:xx-small; vertical-align:top"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepho-wrs" title="User talk:Stepho-wrs">talk</a> </span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100-750h+-20241030233500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100-750h+-20241030233500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100-750h+-20241030233500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-750h+-20241031025100-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100"></span>Agreed. Talk pages are for talking about improving the article, you're not helping anyone, including yourself, by simply ranting about how bad the article is. This 6,000 word article has nearly 300 citations from reliable sources <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSP">per sources that are reliable per numerous discussions</a>, as well as many prominent automotive sources like <i><a href="/wiki/Car_and_Driver" title="Car and Driver">Car and Driver</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Road_%26_Track" title="Road & Track">Road & Track</a></i>. By far this is most likely the most comprehensive article/source on the Tesla Model S. <a href="/wiki/User:750h%2B" title="User:750h+">750</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:750h%2B" title="User talk:750h+">h+</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tesla_Model_S#c-750h+-20241031025100-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-750h+-20241031025100-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-750h+-20241031025100-Stepho-wrs-20241031020100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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