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Merrill represents the fortis n in her consonant chart by making it bold and I have, temporarily at least, transcribed it with the half-long mark. Are there any other options that might be better? — <a href="/wiki/User:Aeusoes1" title="User:Aeusoes1">Ƶ§œš¹</a> <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aeusoes1" title="User talk:Aeusoes1"><small><sub>[ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]</sub></small></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tilquiapan_Zapotec#c-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z-Fortis_n" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z-Fortis_n"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z","author":"Aeusoes1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z-Fortis_n","replies":["c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u00c6\u00b5\u00a7\u0153\u0161\u00b9"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z-Fortis_n"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z"></span>Since we don't have much guidance, I changed it to the full length mark, which is a bit easier to see. I also added a length mark to the other fortis consonants. If you disagree, maybe make them all half-long? but I think consistency in our transcription can only be helpful. — <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">kwami</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami" title="User talk:Kwamikagami">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tilquiapan_Zapotec#c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 12 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z","author":"Kwamikagami","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"kwami"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-12T00:12:00.000Z-Aeusoes1-2012-01-21T00:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kmoksy-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tilqui\u00e1pam_\u00bfo?_Tilquiapan-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kmoksy-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z-Tilqui\u00e1pam_\u00bfo?_Tilquiapan"],"text":"Tilqui\u00e1pam \u00bfo? Tilquiapan","linkableTitle":"Tilqui\u00e1pam \u00bfo? Tilquiapan"}--><h2 id="Tilquiápam_¿o?_Tilquiapan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tilquiápam_¿o?_Tilquiapan-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z"><span id="Tilqui.C3.A1pam_.C2.BFo.3F_Tilquiapan"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tilquiápam_¿o?_Tilquiapan-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z"></span>Tilquiápam ¿o? Tilquiapan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tilquiápam_¿o?_Tilquiapan-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tilquiapan_Zapotec&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Tilquiápam ¿o? 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Though the fact that the town has one spelling doesn't mean that the language can't have another. Just look at Italian varieties. Though I rather doubt any of these are truly established in English. — <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">kwami</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami" title="User talk:Kwamikagami">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tilquiapan_Zapotec#c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-11T23:52:00.000Z-Kmoksy-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 11 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-11T23:52:00.000Z-Kmoksy-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-11T23:52:00.000Z","author":"Kwamikagami","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-11T23:52:00.000Z-Kmoksy-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"kwami"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-2014-03-11T23:52:00.000Z-Kmoksy-2014-03-11T22:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐5dc468848‐tsbpw Cached time: 20241123054517 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.011 seconds CPU time usage: 0.184 seconds Real time usage: 0.273 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 219/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 18279/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 4/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 7/100 Expensive parser function count: 7/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 16753/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.130/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2100893/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 223.443 1 -total 86.30% 192.823 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 39.00% 87.144 1 Template:WikiProject_Mexico 13.63% 30.452 1 Template:IPA 6.73% 15.043 1 Template:WikiProject_Languages --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:33452616-0!canonical and timestamp 20241123054517 and revision id 1201540872. 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