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Use the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal" title="Wikidata:Property proposal">current page</a>, even to continue an old discussion. </td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général">1 Generic / Allgemein / Général</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-2"><a href="#Universal_Authority_File_/_Gemeinsame_Normdatei_/_GND">1.1 Universal Authority File / Gemeinsame Normdatei / GND</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-3"><a href="#Library_of_Congress_Control_Number_/_Numéro_de_contrôle_de_la_Bibliothèque_du_Congrès_(LCCN)">1.2 Library of Congress Control Number / Numéro de contrôle de la Bibliothèque du Congrès (LCCN)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-4"><a href="#Union_List_of_Artist_Names_(ULAN)">1.3 Union List of Artist Names (ULAN)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS">1.4 hashtag / hashtag / mot-dièse / OTHERS</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité">2 Authority control / Normdaten / Autorité</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-7"><a href="#BNF">2.1 BNF</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-8"><a href="#SUDOC">2.2 SUDOC</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-9"><a href="#CALIS">2.3 CALIS</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-10"><a href="#CiNii">2.4 CiNii</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Person_/_Person_/_Personne">3 Person / Person / Personne</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-12"><a href="#Virtual_International_Authority_File_/_VIAF_/_Fichier_d'autorité_international_virtuel">3.1 Virtual International Authority File / VIAF / Fichier d'autorité international virtuel</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-13"><a href="#International_Standard_Name_Identifier_(ISNI)">3.2 International Standard Name Identifier (ISNI)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-14"><a href="#included">3.3 included</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-15"><a href="#Successor_/_Nachfolger_/_successeur">3.4 Successor / Nachfolger / successeur</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-16"><a href="#Predecessor_/_Vorgänger_/_prédécesseur">3.5 Predecessor / Vorgänger / prédécesseur</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-17"><a href="#Racing_championships">3.6 Racing championships</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-18"><a href="#Official_residence_/_Amtssitz_/_résidence_officielle">3.7 Official residence / Amtssitz / résidence officielle</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-19"><a href="#Monuments">3.8 Monuments</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-20"><a href="#Member_of_learned_society">3.9 Member of learned society</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation">4 Organization / Organisation / Organisation</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-22"><a href="#Business_divisions">4.1 Business divisions</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-23"><a href="#Chairman">4.2 Chairman</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-24"><a href="#IATA_airline_designator">4.3 IATA airline designator</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-25"><a href="#ICAO_airline_designator">4.4 ICAO airline designator</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-26"><a href="#Military_branch_/_Teilstreitkraft_/_Branche_militaire">4.5 Military branch / Teilstreitkraft / Branche militaire</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-27"><a href="#ticker_symbol">4.6 ticker symbol</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-28"><a href="#Party_chief">4.7 Party chief</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-29"><a href="#Classical_economic_sector">4.8 Classical economic sector</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-30"><a href="#Manager">4.9 Manager</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-31"><a href="#Coach_/_Trainer_/_Entraîneur">4.10 Coach / Trainer / Entraîneur</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-32"><a href="#Frequent-flyer_program_/_Vielflieger-Programm_/_...">4.11 Frequent-flyer program / Vielflieger-Programm / ...</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-33"><a href="#Notable_Accidents">4.12 Notable Accidents</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-34"><a href="#Livery">4.13 Livery</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Event_/_Veranstaltung_/_Évènement">5 Event / Veranstaltung / Évènement</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-36"><a href="#Member_of_series_/_Mitglied_der_Reihe_/_Membre_de_la_série">5.1 Member of series / Mitglied der Reihe / Membre de la série</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative">6 Creative work / Werk / Œuvre créative</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-38"><a href="#Art_/_Kunst_/_Art">6.1 Art / Kunst / Art</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-39"><a href="#Creator">6.1.1 Creator</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-40"><a href="#Accession_number">6.1.2 Accession number</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-41"><a href="#Written_works">6.2 Written works</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-42"><a href="#International_Standard_Book_Number_/_ISBN_/_ISBN">6.2.1 International Standard Book Number / ISBN / ISBN</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-43"><a href="#ISSN/International_Standard_Serial_Number">6.2.2 ISSN/International Standard Serial Number</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-44"><a href="#OCLC/Online_Computer_Library_Center_Control_Number">6.2.3 OCLC/Online Computer Library Center Control Number</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-45"><a href="#License">6.3 License</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-46"><a href="#Place_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsort_/_Lieu_de_publication">6.4 Place of publication / Erscheinungsort / Lieu de publication</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-47"><a href="#Musik">6.5 Musik</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-48"><a href="#Label_(record)">6.5.1 Label (record)</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-49"><a href="#Film">6.6 Film</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-50"><a href="#Production_company">6.6.1 Production company</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme">7 Term / Sachbegriff / Terme</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-52"><a href="#Products">7.1 Products</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-53"><a href="#Designer_/_Designer_/_...">7.1.1 Designer / Designer / ...</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-54"><a href="#Astronomical_objects">7.2 Astronomical objects</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-55"><a href="#Stellar_classification">7.2.1 Stellar classification</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-56"><a href="#Galaxy_morphological_type">7.2.2 Galaxy morphological type</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-57"><a href="#Minor-planet_group">7.2.3 Minor-planet group</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-58"><a href="#Type_of_astronomical_object_/_Astronomisches_Objekt_/_Objet_céleste">7.2.4 Type of astronomical object / Astronomisches Objekt / Objet céleste</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-59"><a href="#Languages_/_Sprachen_/_Langues">7.3 Languages / Sprachen / Langues</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-60"><a href="#ISO_639_/_ISO_639_/_ISO_639">7.3.1 ISO 639 / ISO 639 / ISO 639</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-61"><a href="#Biology">7.4 Biology</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-62"><a href="#Taxon_name">7.4.1 Taxon name</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-63"><a href="#ships">7.5 ships</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-64"><a href="#ship_class">7.5.1 ship class</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-65"><a href="#ship_type">7.5.2 ship type</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-66"><a href="#ship_designer">7.5.3 ship designer</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-67"><a href="#mountain">7.6 mountain</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-68"><a href="#Mountain_range_/_Gebirgszug_/_Cordillère">7.6.1 Mountain range / Gebirgszug / Cordillère</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-69"><a href="#Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu">8 Place / Geografikum / Lieu</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-70"><a href="#Buried_here">8.1 Buried here</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-71"><a href="#Coat_of_arms_description_/_/_Description_des_armoiries">8.2 Coat of arms description / / Description des armoiries</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-72"><a href="#locator_map_image">8.3 locator map image</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-73"><a href="#Lakes">8.4 Lakes</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-74"><a href="#Airports">8.5 Airports</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-75"><a href="#Airport_codes">8.5.1 Airport codes</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-76"><a href="#Train_Station_/_/">8.6 Train Station / /</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-77"><a href="#next_station">8.6.1 next station</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-78"><a href="#Station_code">8.6.2 Station code</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-79"><a href="#Rivers_/_Flüsse_/_rivières">8.7 Rivers / Flüsse / rivières</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-80"><a href="#Russia_State_water_register_code_of_water_object_/_Код_водного_объекта">8.7.1 Russia State water register code of water object / Код водного объекта</a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-81"><a href="#crosses_/_traverse">8.7.2 crosses / traverse</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-82"><a href="#Unsorted">9 Unsorted</a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-83"><a href="#Current_location">9.1 Current location</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-84"><a href="#Domain_(EN)_/_Dominio_(IT)">9.2 Domain (EN) / Dominio (IT)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-85"><a href="#Programming_language_/_Programmiersprache_/_Langage_de_programmation_/_Linguaggio_di_programmazione">9.3 Programming language / Programmiersprache / Langage de programmation / Linguaggio di programmazione</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général" data-mw-thread-id="h-Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général-2013-01-31T21:53:00.000Z">Generic / Allgemein / Général</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Universal_Authority_File_/_Gemeinsame_Normdatei_/_GND" data-mw-thread-id="h-Universal_Authority_File_/_Gemeinsame_Normdatei_/_GND-Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général-2013-01-31T21:53:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q36578" title="Q36578">Universal Authority File / Gemeinsame Normdatei / GND</a></h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P227" title="Property:P227">Property:P227</a> <ul><li>Description: International authority file (persons, terms, places etc.)</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://d-nb.info/gnd/">http://d-nb.info/gnd/</a>...</li> <li>Infobox parameter example : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Authority control">en:Template:Authority control</a>, <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Normdaten" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Normdaten">de:Vorlage:Normdaten</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Autorit%C3%A9" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Autorité">fr:Modèle:Autorité</a></li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: Basic authority file used in over 30 Wikipedia templates and in Wikimedia Commons. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:53:00.000Z-Universal_Authority_File_/_Gemeinsame_Normdatei_/_GND" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Shouldn't the datatype be a number or are there problems? --<a href="/wiki/User:Sk!d" title="User:Sk!d">Sk!d</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sk!d" title="User talk:Sk!d">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sk!d-2013-02-03T02:20:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 3 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>It's an identifier, not a numerical value with an accuracy and things like that (the topic of the Value datatype). More, it's the string datatype that will allow the output of URIs in the future. So, I believe that a String type with (when it'll be possible) a validation regex that restrict the range of the possible values to integers is the best choose.</dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-02-06T14:20:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske" title="User:Magnus Manske">Magnus Manske</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnus_Manske" title="User talk:Magnus Manske">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Magnus_Manske-2013-02-07T16:33:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P227" title="Property:P227">P:P227</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:PinkAmpersand" title="User:PinkAmpersand">PinkAmpers</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PinkAmpersand" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PinkAmpersand">&(Je vous invite à me parler)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-PinkAmpersand-2013-03-06T23:14:00.000Z-Universal_Authority_File_/_Gemeinsame_Normdatei_/_GND" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Library_of_Congress_Control_Number_/_Numéro_de_contrôle_de_la_Bibliothèque_du_Congrès_(LCCN)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Library_of_Congress_Control_Number_/_Numéro_de_contrôle_de_la_Bibliothèque_du-Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général-2013-03-07T18:30:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q620946" title="Q620946">Library of Congress Control Number / Numéro de contrôle de la Bibliothèque du Congrès (LCCN)</a></h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P244" title="Property:P244">Property:P244</a> <ul><li>Description: authority file cataloging records in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Congress" class="extiw" title="en:Library of Congress">Library of Congress</a></li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Authority control">Commons:Template:Authority control</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Authority control">en:Template:Authority control</a>, <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Normdaten" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Normdaten">de:Vorlage:Normdaten</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Autorit%C3%A9" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Autorité">fr:Modèle:Autorité</a>, <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Controllo_di_autorit%C3%A0" class="extiw" title="it:Template:Controllo di autorità">it:Template:Controllo di autorità</a></li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Domain: mostly people and books, but possibly others</li> <li>Allowed values: string</li> <li>Source:</li> <li>Use case:</li> <li>Robot and gadget jobs: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/VIAFbot" title="Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/VIAFbot">Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/VIAFbot</a></li> <li>Comments: --<a href="/wiki/User:Jarekt" title="User:Jarekt">Jarekt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarekt" title="User talk:Jarekt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jarekt-2013-03-07T18:30:00.000Z-Library_of_Congress_Control_Number_/_Numéro_de_contrôle_de_la_Bibliothèque_du" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -- <a href="/wiki/Property:P244" title="Property:P244">Property:P244</a> -- Jarekt, I've been bold and created these two. They are in line with the related properties that are already created, and also in wide use within the Wiki communities, so I see no reason not to proceed. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-07T18:53:00.000Z-Jarekt-2013-03-07T18:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Union_List_of_Artist_Names_(ULAN)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Union_List_of_Artist_Names_(ULAN)-Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général-2013-03-07T18:30:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q2494649" title="Q2494649">Union List of Artist Names (ULAN)</a></h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P245" title="Property:P245">Property:P245</a> <ul><li>Description: Online database using a controlled vocabulary currently containing around 293k names and other information about artists</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Authority control">Commons:Template:Authority control</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Authority control">en:Template:Authority control</a></li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Domain: people</li> <li>Allowed values: string, possibly numbers</li> <li>Source:</li> <li>Use case:</li> <li>Robot and gadget jobs: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/VIAFbot" title="Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/VIAFbot">Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/VIAFbot</a></li> <li>Comments: --<a href="/wiki/User:Jarekt" title="User:Jarekt">Jarekt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarekt" title="User talk:Jarekt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jarekt-2013-03-07T18:30:00.000Z-Union_List_of_Artist_Names_(ULAN)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -- <a href="/wiki/Property:P245" title="Property:P245">Property:P245</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-07T18:53:00.000Z-Jarekt-2013-03-07T18:30:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS" data-mw-thread-id="h-hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS-Generic_/_Allgemein_/_Général-2013-03-12T06:09:00.000Z">hashtag / hashtag / mot-dièse / OTHERS</h4></div> <ul><li>Description:</li> <li>Infobox parameter:</li> <li>Datatype: StringValue</li> <li>Domain:</li> <li>Allowed values:</li> <li>Source:</li> <li>Use case: for wikipedia: #wikipedia. For the Egyptian Revolution: #jan25 At <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sina_Weibo#Features" class="extiw" title="en:Sina Weibo">en:Sina_Weibo#Features</a> you will find, that Weibo uses hastags too. The format is: #HashName#</li> <li>Robot and gadget jobs:</li></ul> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I like the idea. On the first look this property is even worse than "is a" (since both properties have no controlled vocabulary), but on the other side "hashtag" implies a subjective view. No reader expects "the truth". It's clear, that it's a kind of personal comment and not part of a scientific work. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-12T06:09:00.000Z-hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I see this property and its values used by apps, outside of Wikipedia. As you can see here <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashtag#Use_outside_of_social_networking_websites" class="extiw" title="en:Hashtag">en:Hashtag#Use outside of social networking websites</a> a lot of websites using hashtags. --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T15:34:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-12T06:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support This is a very relevant identifier. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Emw-2013-03-12T23:12:00.000Z-hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose Not mapped to an infobox parameter, and no other simple way of extracting the info from Wikipedia or an external source. <a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Mange01-2013-03-13T22:05:00.000Z-hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose Grouping things with one certain value of hashtag is not objective. To stem this one has to predefine a huge list of hashtags by defining: if this and that and this, this item gets the hashtag-value xyz. But these would be redundant to existing properties or to a combination of existing properties. Imagine the hashtag-value #wikipedia this could mark all items with the properties is-a Perso==True + employer==Wikimedia or field of work==Wikipedia etc. This means all entities marked with the same hashtag-value could be retrieved with a specific database query. Such a query is highly subjective thus the hashtag-property cannot be classified as a factual based property. <dl><dd>I thought only item Q52 (Wikipedia) should have hashtag #wikipedia, no one else. Q29198 (Wikimania) would have more hashtags. Google says there are #wikimania and #Wikimania2012. At the moment, I don´t think there is an Infobox using this. For example <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Book_Writing_Month" class="extiw" title="en:Academic Book Writing Month">en:Academic Book Writing Month</a> tells that its hashtag is "#AcBoWriMo" in the lead section. --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T23:14:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-13T22:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose useless. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stryn-2013-03-16T08:52:00.000Z-hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Hashtags are a fact of life on social networks (eg Twitter), which are hugely popular. Just because they're not controlled (being a "folksonomy") and because people often use duplicate tags or make mistakes, doesn't make them useless. They're important in NLP tasks over social news (an important clustering feature for posts, amongst many other features).</dd> <dd>Just because currently there's no source that wikidata can load, doesn't mean that a smart NLP researcher can't create such. In the meantime, people can crowd-source them on wikidata. --<a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-2014-12-18T22:45:00.000Z-hashtag_/_hashtag_/_mot-dièse_/_OTHERS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 18 December 2014 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité" data-mw-thread-id="h-Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z">Authority control / Normdaten / Autorité</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="BNF" data-mw-thread-id="h-BNF-Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z">BNF</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P268" title="Property:P268">Property:P268</a> <ul><li>Description: authority data on persons, places, organisations, works</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Autorit%C3%A9" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Autorité">fr:Modèle:Autorité</a>, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Authority control">commons:Template:Authority control</a></li> <li>Datatype: StringValue</li> <li>Link: catalogue.bnf.fr</li></ul> Reference authority control number of th French National Library − relies on the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archival_Resource_Key" class="extiw" title="en:Archival Resource Key">ARK system</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Frédéric</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User talk:Jean-Frédéric">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z-BNF" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ayack-2013-03-08T13:15:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Jarekt" title="User:Jarekt">Jarekt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarekt" title="User talk:Jarekt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jarekt-2013-03-08T16:41:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-09T04:54:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P268" title="Property:P268">Property:P268</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-10T13:45:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="SUDOC" data-mw-thread-id="h-SUDOC-Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z">SUDOC</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P269" title="Property:P269">Property:P269</a> <ul><li>Description: authority data on persons, places, organisations, works</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Autorit%C3%A9" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Autorité">fr:Modèle:Autorité</a>, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Authority control">commons:Template:Authority control</a></li> <li>Datatype: StringValue</li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.idref.fr/">http://www.idref.fr/</a></li></ul> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syst%C3%A8me_universitaire_de_documentation" class="extiw" title="en:Système universitaire de documentation">en:Système universitaire de documentation</a> − Reference authority control number of th French academic libraries. <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Frédéric</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User talk:Jean-Frédéric">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z-SUDOC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ayack-2013-03-08T13:15:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Jarekt" title="User:Jarekt">Jarekt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarekt" title="User talk:Jarekt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jarekt-2013-03-08T16:41:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>I guess we should have all of those in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://viaf.org/">here</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-08T17:01:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support The VIAF list is not useful. It includes authority records that have no web page and only can be looked up in VIAF (this would be redundant information). We should look at <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Autorit%C3%A9" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Autorité">fr:Modèle:Autorité</a> (BNF, SUDOC), <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Normdaten" class="extiw" title="ja:Template:Normdaten">ja:Template:Normdaten</a> (NDL, CiNii) and <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="zh:Template:Authority control">zh:Template:Authority_control</a> (CALIS, NCL). --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-09T04:51:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P269" title="Property:P269">Property:P269</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-10T13:45:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2013-03-08T11:16:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="CALIS" data-mw-thread-id="h-CALIS-Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité-2013-03-08T18:53:00.000Z">CALIS</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P270" title="Property:P270">Property:P270</a> <ul><li>Description: authority records of CALIS (China Academic Library & Information System)</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="zh:Template:Authority control">zh:Template:Authority control</a></li> <li>Datatype: StringValue</li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://opac.calis.edu.cn/aopac/">http://opac.calis.edu.cn/aopac/</a></li></ul> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T18:53:00.000Z-CALIS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Not part of VIAF. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-09T04:54:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Jarekt" title="User:Jarekt">Jarekt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarekt" title="User talk:Jarekt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jarekt-2013-03-10T02:03:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P270" title="Property:P270">Property:P270</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-10T13:45:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="CiNii" data-mw-thread-id="h-CiNii-Authority_control_/_Normdaten_/_Autorité-2013-03-09T05:01:00.000Z">CiNii</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P271" title="Property:P271">Property:P271</a> <ul><li>Description: authority records of CiNii (Scholarly and Academic Information Navigator, pronounced like "sigh-knee")</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Normdaten" class="extiw" title="ja:Template:Normdaten">ja:Template:Normdaten</a></li> <li>Datatype: StringValue</li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://ci.nii.ac.jp">http://ci.nii.ac.jp</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Not part of VIAF. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-09T05:01:00.000Z-CiNii" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:01, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support it is issued by <a href="/wiki/Q4346622" title="Q4346622">National Institute of Informatics</a>, an authoritative source, and covers many scholars based in Japan and other parts of the world. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://ci.nii.ac.jp/author/DA0040532X">http://ci.nii.ac.jp/author/DA0040532X</a> (Noam Chomsky) for example. --<a href="/wiki/User:Whym" title="User:Whym">whym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Whym" title="User talk:Whym">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Whym-2013-03-09T12:03:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-09T05:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Jarekt" title="User:Jarekt">Jarekt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarekt" title="User talk:Jarekt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jarekt-2013-03-10T02:02:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-09T05:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P271" title="Property:P271">Property:P271</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-10T13:45:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-09T05:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Person_/_Person_/_Personne" data-mw-thread-id="h-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-01-31T21:45:00.000Z">Person / Person / Personne</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Virtual_International_Authority_File_/_VIAF_/_Fichier_d'autorité_international_virtuel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Virtual_International_Authority_File_/_VIAF_/_Fichier_d'autorité_international-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-01-31T21:45:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q54919" title="Q54919">Virtual International Authority File / VIAF / Fichier d'autorité international virtuel</a></h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P214" title="Property:P214">Property:P214</a> <ul><li>Description: Meta authority file (collection of GND, LCCN, BnF etc.)</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://viaf.org/viaf/">http://viaf.org/viaf/</a>...</li> <li>Infobox parameter example : See above</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: Not as up-to-date and reliable as the original authority files, but very useful. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:45:00.000Z-Virtual_International_Authority_File_/_VIAF_/_Fichier_d'autorité_international" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 31 January 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>About datatype, it should be <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a> or a custom datatype for links to authority files. I'll talk to <a href="/wiki/User:Denny" title="User:Denny">Denny</a> if it's possible to implement a such datatype in Wikibase quickly. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Tpt-2013-02-01T15:50:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Denny" title="User:Denny">User:Denny</a> answers me that the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a> type should allow in the future validation of the content using a regex and output of an URI. So, we could use the StringValue type. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:36:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-01T15:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>What does that mean? Will it be possible to enter the VIAF no. "89798474" and the field is adding the link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://viaf.org/viaf/89798474viaf.org/viaf/89798474">[1]</a>? That's would have two advantages: 1. We can easily use the number for the templates (import/export). 2. If the general link is changing, we just need to adapt it once.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:17:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yes, you enter the numerical id in the field and the UI shows this id with a link to VIAF. It is like the authority template (you input an id and the template output a link). <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Tpt-2013-02-01T18:58:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-02-06T14:20:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske" title="User:Magnus Manske">Magnus Manske</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnus_Manske" title="User talk:Magnus Manske">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Magnus_Manske-2013-02-07T16:33:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="International_Standard_Name_Identifier_(ISNI)" data-mw-thread-id="h-International_Standard_Name_Identifier_(ISNI)-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-02-11T10:54:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q423048" title="Q423048">International Standard Name Identifier</a> (ISNI)</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P213" title="Property:P213">Property:P213</a> <ul><li>Description: Meta authority file; includes <a href="/wiki/Q51044" title="Q51044">ORCID</a>.</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/">http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/</a></li> <li>Infobox parameter example : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Authority control">en:Template:Authority control</a></li> <li>Comments: Most authority files will be migrated to have ISNI-equivalents over the next few years; around a million VIAF records already do. Supported on enwiki but not heavily used (yet). <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Gray" title="User:Andrew Gray">Andrew Gray</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Gray" title="User talk:Andrew Gray">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Andrew_Gray-2013-02-11T10:54:00.000Z-International_Standard_Name_Identifier_(ISNI)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:ThorstenX1" title="User:ThorstenX1">ThorstenX1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThorstenX1" title="User talk:ThorstenX1">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-ThorstenX1-2013-02-11T11:33:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2013-02-11T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Utente:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Viscontino (page does not exist)">talk</a> 17:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)</dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Tpt-2013-02-14T17:03:00.000Z-Andrew_Gray-2013-02-11T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 14 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="included" data-mw-thread-id="h-included-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-02-17T21:08:00.000Z">included</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: included (event, e.g. "Hurricane Sandy" for "2012 Atlantic hurricane season"</li> <li>Datatype:' Item</li> <li>Domain:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: Generally surrounds events; see <a href="#Tropical_cyclone_name_/_Hurrikans_/_...">#Tropical cyclone name / Hurrikans / ...</a> below. <a href="/wiki/User:Hurricanefan24" title="User:Hurricanefan24">Hurricanefan24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hurricanefan24" title="User talk:Hurricanefan24">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Hurricanefan24-2013-02-17T21:08:00.000Z-included" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Unclear. Infobox parameter example missing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-19T19:46:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-02-17T21:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>I can see the value of this property in scenarios like yours, and also to attach an article like "List of Season 1 Foo [television] episodes" to the television show item itself. And numerous other examples I can't think of right now. However, I think it needs a more descriptive name: "Subtopic of"? But that could be used very broadly (which actually might not be a bad thing). <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-02-22T19:52:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-02-17T21:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 22 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li>I agree with Espeso: the property name is too ambiguous, in the sense that an item could use that property for many different things. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:02:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-02-17T21:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Successor_/_Nachfolger_/_successeur" data-mw-thread-id="h-Successor_/_Nachfolger_/_successeur-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-02-18T11:37:00.000Z">Successor / Nachfolger / successeur</h3></div> <ul><li>Description: The Person who next held an office or title the current entity held</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Person</li> <li>Infobox: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_royalty" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox royalty">en:Template:Infobox royalty</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_officeholder" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox officeholder">en:Template:Infobox officeholder</a> among others</li> <li>Comments: When people have held multiple offices they will need qualifiers to say which office they succeded to, but that shouldn't stop us adding the property now. Also see the opposite property below <a href="#Predecessor_.2F_Vorg.C3.A4nger_.2F_pr.C3.A9d.C3.A9cesseur">Predecessor / Vorgänger / prédécesseur</a>. /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-18T11:37:00.000Z-Successor_/_Nachfolger_/_successeur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Question I also thought about predecessor and successor, but then I thought, that this should be a feature of lists of phase 3. Are lists of phase 3 ordered? If yes, it would be possible to model these kind of properties. --<a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Faux-2013-02-18T18:38:00.000Z-Successor_/_Nachfolger_/_successeur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Well Phase II is for collecting data and properties for infoboxes and the predecessor/successor fields are used in many infoboxes so we don't need to wait for Phase III before creating and using these properties. I have no idea when qualifiers will be available, but lots of existing properties need qualifiers too. /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-19T11:51:00.000Z-Faux-2013-02-18T18:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>This is not a property but a qualifier: so a property like office hold will have 4 qualifiers instead of 3 properties with 4 qualifiers. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Snipre-2013-02-19T12:18:00.000Z-Ch1902-2013-02-19T11:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I see, just so I understand properly, do you mean, for example, Queen Victoria would have one property (offices held) with two values (Queen of the United Kingdom and Empress of India) and those two values have one qualifier each (succeeded by Edward VII)? That makes sense now, but what about the more complex case where a person holds an office more than once in non-consecutive terms (e.g. Edward IV or Vladimir Putin), wouldn't that need a qualifier to the qualifier (succeeded by X, first time, succeeded by Y, second time) assuming that office held also has qualifiers saying when it was held? So isn't it easier to have a successor property with two qualifiers of who and when? /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-19T15:15:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-19T12:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Just repeat the statement with the same property but with different qualifiers. I assume it is possible to add several times the same property. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Snipre-2013-02-20T14:14:00.000Z-Ch1902-2013-02-19T15:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 20 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Exactly. (Office held) twice, each with qualifiers (Preceded by), (Succeeded by), (From date), (To date). <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T22:05:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-20T14:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>OK then. On a related note, taking monarchy/nobles in particular is office held really suitable? Office held: King, Office held: Prince of Orange don't sound right since they aren't electable positions. I asked for comments <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Infoboxes_task_force#Noble_title" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata talk:Infoboxes task force">here</a> but would like some more input before I take the property to RFD. /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-25T11:06:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T22:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose: The data can be derived from other properties. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:05:00.000Z-Faux-2013-02-18T18:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:05, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Also against, having a property for each person will create a conflict when the person hold two office, like a deputy and a primer. We need a more complex model. <a href="/wiki/User:Guillcote" title="User:Guillcote">Guillcote</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guillcote" title="User talk:Guillcote">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Guillcote-2013-03-05T20:53:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Predecessor_/_Vorgänger_/_prédécesseur" data-mw-thread-id="h-Predecessor_/_Vorgänger_/_prédécesseur-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-02-18T11:37:00.000Z">Predecessor / Vorgänger / prédécesseur</h3></div> <ul><li>Description: The Person who previously held an office or title the current entity held</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Person</li> <li>Infobox: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_royalty" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox royalty">en:Template:Infobox royalty</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_officeholder" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox officeholder">en:Template:Infobox officeholder</a> among others</li> <li>Comments: See <a href="#Successor_.2F_Nachfolger_.2F_successeur">Successor / Nachfolger / successeur</a> above. /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-18T11:37:00.000Z-Predecessor_/_Vorgänger_/_prédécesseur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Racing_championships" data-mw-thread-id="h-Racing_championships-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-02-25T18:46:00.000Z">Racing championships</h3></div> <ul><li>Description: Series and years in which a racing driver won a series' championship</li> <li>Datatype: <s>Item</s>?</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Person</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_NASCAR_driver" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox NASCAR driver">en:Template:Infobox NASCAR driver</a>/<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Champ_Car_driver" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox Champ Car driver">en:Template:Infobox Champ Car driver</a> (achievements); <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_racing_driver" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox racing driver">en:Template:Infobox racing driver</a> (titles); <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_F1_driver" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox F1 driver">en:Template:Infobox F1 driver</a> (Championships)</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-The_Bushranger-2013-02-25T18:46:00.000Z-Racing_championships" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>I don't think something like this can be implemented as data type: Item. Not at this point in time. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:03:00.000Z-Racing_championships" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Well, it's possible I'm misthinking what the datatype should be, so I've changed it to "?". Basically you would put "champion" in the first 'statements' box, then "(year) (series)" in the second? - <a href="/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-The_Bushranger-2013-02-25T19:17:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Right now the only data type we can create is Item. So, this and many other properties (e.g. date of birth) can't be created until new data types are in place. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:40:00.000Z-The_Bushranger-2013-02-25T19:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Correction: Data types: Item and commons media are they only usable types right now. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:43:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li>The value could be the championship itself, like 2012 Formula One season. But I think that the results should be applied to the championship, not the driver / team. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:08:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Official_residence_/_Amtssitz_/_résidence_officielle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Official_residence_/_Amtssitz_/_résidence_officielle-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-03-02T00:43:00.000Z">Official residence / Amtssitz / résidence officielle</h3></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P263" title="Property:P263">Property:P263</a> <ul><li>Description: The residence at which heads of state, heads of government, gubernatorial or other senior figures officially reside.</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: e.g. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_political_post" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox political post">en:Template:Infobox political post</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Monarchy" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox Monarchy">en:Template:Infobox Monarchy</a></li> <li>Comments: - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-02T00:43:00.000Z-Official_residence_/_Amtssitz_/_résidence_officielle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support--<a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-02T00:56:00.000Z-Official_residence_/_Amtssitz_/_résidence_officielle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-05T22:40:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-02T00:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done, <a href="/wiki/Property:P263" title="Property:P263">Property:P263</a>. Four supports (w/me), about one week old. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-09T04:36:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-02T00:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Monuments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Monuments-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-03-01T19:25:00.000Z">Monuments</h3></div> <dl><dt>Monuments</dt> <dd>Monuments erected, buildings, streets named, etc., in honour of the subject.</dd> <dd>Type: item</dd></dl> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment keep in mind that things named for people already exist, too: <a href="/wiki/Property:P138" title="Property:P138">Property:P138</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-01T19:25:00.000Z-Monuments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Member_of_learned_society" data-mw-thread-id="h-Member_of_learned_society-Person_/_Person_/_Personne-2013-02-05T18:35:00.000Z">Member of learned society</h3></div> <dl><dd>See also <a href="#Post-nominals">#Post-nominals</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>Description: learned society (such as National Academy of Sciences, Royal Society, etc.) memberships that a person holds</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Person</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: property used by biographical infoboxes for academics--<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-02-05T18:35:00.000Z-Member_of_learned_society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>This should probably be more complex - for example, being a Member of the Royal Institution isn't the same as being a Fellow - so really you want to link to <Fellow of the Royal Institution> rather than <Royal Institution> elements. Maybe call it "has learnèd society membership" and make this clear in the description?<a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester" title="User:Jdforrester">James F.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester" title="User talk:Jdforrester">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jdforrester-2013-02-05T20:51:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-02-05T18:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Yes. The problem is that usually we don't have items labelled <Fellow of XXX>, shall we create new items to deal with this situation? (if so <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:N">WD:N</a> should also be changed) --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-02-08T13:02:00.000Z-Jdforrester-2013-02-05T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I think we will need to create them, yes, much the same as for the British Honours system (there are normally articles like <Order of the Bath> rather than<Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath>). Of course, we'd also want to use qualifiers to give the date that it was awarded (and/or removed?) and so on.<a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester" title="User:Jdforrester">James F.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester" title="User talk:Jdforrester">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Jdforrester-2013-02-08T18:38:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-02-08T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Needs Qualifiers Grade of membership and From date. Where the person has achieved various grades of membership over the years then (Member of learned society) will appear more than once for the same society. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T21:44:00.000Z-Jdforrester-2013-02-08T18:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I see that Fellows of the Royal Society, for one, use the post-nominal "FRS" after their names. So in cases like that, it's covered by the proposal for post-nominals, elsewhere on this page. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T14:00:00.000Z-Member_of_learned_society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I would support a more general property "Member of society/order" which would encompass learned societies, military/civil orders, and religious orders, since these things tend to be structured similarly. Also agree with <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">User:Filceolaire</a> that qualifier for rank would be needed. As an example of each type: the Royal Society has two ranks, Fellow and President, with different post-nominal initials; the Légion d'honneur has six ranks; and the Order of Saint Benedict has one rank (?) with post-nominal initials. --<a href="/wiki/User:OldakQuill" title="User:OldakQuill">OldakQuill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OldakQuill" title="User talk:OldakQuill">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-OldakQuill-2013-03-06T17:48:00.000Z-Member_of_learned_society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose -- unnecessarily specific (and contains a value judgment). Whether the thing that a person is a member of is "learned" does not need to be exposed in the property name. See my proposal for "member of" under "generic" at the top of this page. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-08T15:34:00.000Z-Member_of_learned_society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T06:51:00.000Z">Organization / Organisation / Organisation</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Business_divisions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Business_divisions-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-03-02T16:55:00.000Z">Business divisions</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P199" title="Property:P199">Property:P199</a> <ul><li>Description: organizations have divisions (not the same as separate subsidiaries).</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links: See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Boeing" class="extiw" title="w:en:Boeing">Boeing</a>.</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: Infobox company | divisions=</li> <li>Comments: Looks like a simple one. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-02T16:55:00.000Z-Business_divisions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-02T17:33:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-03-02T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P199" title="Property:P199">Property:P199</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-05T22:44:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-03-02T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Chairman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chairman-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-23T13:29:00.000Z">Chairman</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: The owner of the athletic club</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Source: Official website or reliable third party sources</li> <li>Domain: People</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_club" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football club">en:template:Infobox football club</a>: chairman</li> <li>Comments:</li></ul> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairman" class="extiw" title="en:Chairman">en:Chairman</a> says "highest officer of an organized group". In my view, an owner is something different than a chairman. By the way, there is also the term "Chairwoman" (Im not a nativ english speaking person) Wiktionary says hypernyms are for example: chair and chairperson. --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-02-23T13:29:00.000Z-Chairman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 23 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>According to the "terminology" section of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairman" class="extiw" title="en:Chairman">en:Chairman</a>, the chairman can often be the "CEO". Unless this is some term specific to association football (soccer), I'd recommend an owner field and a CEO field for all industries, not just sports, with these discussions moved out of Sports on this proposal page. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:52:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-02-23T13:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 23 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>By the way, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P165&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P165 (page does not exist)">Property:P165</a> ("the legal owner of the entity") could be used for athletic clubs too. Thefor, I would say this proposal is already done.--<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-02-28T10:57:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Chairman and CEO are two different roles. I think they should be two properties. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-03T23:07:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-02-28T10:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>They are often two different roles, I would agree. --<a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T23:14:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-03-03T23:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="IATA_airline_designator" data-mw-thread-id="h-IATA_airline_designator-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z">IATA airline designator</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P229" title="Property:P229">Property:P229</a> <ul><li>Description: The airline's IATA airline designator</li> <li>Datatype: String</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Airlines</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Macadamia1472">Macadamia1472</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Macadamia1472">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-IATA_airline_designator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>I <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support this. <a href="/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sven Manguard">Sven Manguard</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sven Manguard">Wha?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-07T03:49:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 7 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>Support. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:34:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support very important -- <a href="/wiki/User:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Milad A380">Milad A380</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Milad A380">talk?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Milad_A380-2013-02-15T20:58:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support for airports. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:The_Anonymouse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:The Anonymouse (page does not exist)">The Anonymouse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Anonymouse" title="User talk:The Anonymouse">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Anonymouse" title="Special:Contributions/The Anonymouse">contribs</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-The_Anonymouse-2013-02-18T00:46:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P229" title="Property:P229">P:P229</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:PinkAmpersand" title="User:PinkAmpersand">PinkAmpers</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PinkAmpersand" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PinkAmpersand">&(Je vous invite à me parler)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-PinkAmpersand-2013-03-06T23:14:00.000Z-IATA_airline_designator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ICAO_airline_designator" data-mw-thread-id="h-ICAO_airline_designator-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z">ICAO airline designator</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P230" title="Property:P230">Property:P230</a> <ul><li>Description: The airline's ICAO airline designator</li> <li>Datatype: String</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Airlines</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Macadamia1472">Macadamia1472</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Macadamia1472">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-ICAO_airline_designator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>I <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support this. <a href="/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sven Manguard">Sven Manguard</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sven Manguard">Wha?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-07T03:50:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 7 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support very important -- <a href="/wiki/User:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Milad A380">Milad A380</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Milad A380">talk?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Milad_A380-2013-02-15T20:58:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support for airports. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:The_Anonymouse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:The Anonymouse (page does not exist)">The Anonymouse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Anonymouse" title="User talk:The Anonymouse">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Anonymouse" title="Special:Contributions/The Anonymouse">contribs</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-The_Anonymouse-2013-02-18T00:46:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P230" title="Property:P230">P:P230</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:PinkAmpersand" title="User:PinkAmpersand">PinkAmpers</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PinkAmpersand" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PinkAmpersand">&(Je vous invite à me parler)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-PinkAmpersand-2013-03-06T23:14:00.000Z-ICAO_airline_designator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Military_branch_/_Teilstreitkraft_/_Branche_militaire" data-mw-thread-id="h-Military_branch_/_Teilstreitkraft_/_Branche_militaire-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-03-05T15:29:00.000Z">Military branch / Teilstreitkraft / Branche militaire</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P241" title="Property:P241">Property:P241</a> <ul><li>Description: Unit is part of military branch (e.g. Carrier Strike Group Three is part of Navy)</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: {{:en:Template:Infobox military unit}} field branch</li> <li>Comments:</li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support badly needed, as are a great many military related fields, I'm sure. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-05T15:29:00.000Z-Military_branch_/_Teilstreitkraft_/_Branche_militaire" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done added as <a href="/wiki/Property:P241" title="Property:P241">Property:P241</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-07T11:07:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-05T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ticker_symbol" data-mw-thread-id="h-ticker_symbol-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-24T16:59:00.000Z">ticker symbol</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P249" title="Property:P249">Property:P249</a> <ul><li>Description: A stock symbol or ticker symbol is an abbreviation used to uniquely identify publicly traded shares of a particular stock on a particular stock market.</li> <li>Datatype: String</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_company" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox company">en:Template:Infobox company</a></li> <li>Comments: Value MSFT would be for Microsoft. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T16:59:00.000Z-ticker_symbol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Is datatype item correct? Or should that be datatype string? --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-02-24T17:20:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yes, string. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-02-24T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Should this be a url of some type? <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T22:54:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I don't think so, but the code could be used to build a URL, such as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/msft">http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/msft</a>. We would also need a item for market (e.g. NASDAQ). <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T23:25:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T22:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:09:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-02-24T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sven Manguard">Sven Manguard</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sven Manguard">Wha?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-26T04:56:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><s>support</s> as string. Wrapping it in a URL to {wherever} is up to the person using the data. The "source" field for the ticker symbol could be a link to the most relevant exchange's page for the ticker, which would be the convenience link. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-02-26T20:50:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Qualifer required: ticker symbol and stock exchange are a package. If there were two properties, one for each, and a company was listed on two or three markets, you wouldn't be able to determine from the data which symbol went with which market. As such ticker needs to be a qualifier of market, or vice versa. Then the question is, do qualifiers support "item" property types? If so, I would make symbol the property and exchange/market the qualifier. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-02T04:01:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-02-26T20:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as string <a href="/wiki/Property:P249" title="Property:P249">Property:P249</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-08T16:05:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Party_chief" data-mw-thread-id="h-Party_chief-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-03-04T19:09:00.000Z">Party chief</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P210" title="Property:P210">Property:P210</a> <ul><li>Description: leader of Communist Party Committee of administrative divisions, corporate bodies, organizations, etc. in socialist/communist countries (e.g. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_chief_of_the_Communist_Party_of_China" class="extiw" title="en:Party chief of the Communist Party of China">en:Party chief of the Communist Party of China</a>)</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="/wiki/Q956" title="Q956">Beijing</a> <party chief> <a href="/wiki/Q1368232" title="Q1368232">Guo Jinlong</a>; <a href="/wiki/Q16952" title="Q16952">Peking University</a> <party chief> <a href="/wiki/Q6172281" title="Q6172281">Zhu Shanlu</a></li> <li>Comments: important property for socialist/communist countries --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-04T19:09:00.000Z-Party_chief" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as "Communist Party Secretary" in Property:P210. I am not quite sure about the scope (individualize by country ? Extend to non-communist countries ?) but that should not be very difficult to change later on. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T09:17:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-04T19:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Perhaps we should use the lowercase "communist party" instead of the uppercase, 'cause some communist parties have other names, such as Lao People's Revolutionary Party. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-06T10:06:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-06T09:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Right, done. I was hesitating but it probably makes more sense. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T11:27:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-06T10:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>It should not be very difficult to change later? Wikidata has 286 languages. I really would be nice, if we first do the basic work. Translating this property and use it - and then thinking about the scope and a label that fits is pretty frustrating. The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_settlement" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox settlement">en:Template:Infobox settlement</a> has a parameter "leader_name". In the article <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_University" class="extiw" title="en:Peking University">en:Peking University</a> there is no "Zhu Shanlu". The property is listed under "organization", but Beijing is not a company. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-06T13:23:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-06T11:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>There may be no way to know right now whether it is better to have the same property for China and Vietnam, or two separate properties. Practice will tell. What I mean is that it should not be difficult for a bot to split this property into contry-specific ones, or to merge it with another. Obviously, we cannot get everything right from the beginning and some translations will have to be done anew.</dd> <dd>There is no "party chief" property in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_University" class="extiw" title="en:Peking University">en:Peking University</a> but there is one one in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing" class="extiw" title="en:Beijing">en:Beijing</a>. We can't use "leader" because Beijing has both a mayor and a party chief, Peking University, both a president and a party chief. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T14:10:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-06T13:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> If we want to make it as general as possible, which seems to be the current trend, it would probably be "chief representative of the ruling party". I think the communist case is by far the most important, but there has probably been others, at least it is certainly a logical possibility. Should I change the to that ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T19:21:00.000Z-Party_chief" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Sounds reasonable: it's close to the use in the infoboxes ("leader_name"). Since the property is in use already, we have to decide if we should delete labels like 党委书记 (something like "party secretery"?) or leave a note to the editors. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-07T01:51:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-06T19:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Ok, yes it is probably better to leave a note to the editors, are there are not yet many. I wish I could find a more concise label, but I cannot think of any. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-07T09:28:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-07T01:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>There is another way to generalize it. If we adopt "chief representative of the ruling party", we can improve the flexibility on one side, but also have more restrictions (only ruling parties are allowed) on the other side. This may cause other issues. For example, the Communist Party of China had party chief positions long before it became the ruling party of China.</dd> <dd>In contrast, another way to generalize is to allow all communist parties, whether it's a ruling party or not. The advantage is that there are many coummunist parties are/were not ruling parties, but they all have very similar party chief positions (all influenced by the "секретарь парткома" of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union). --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-07T09:31:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-07T09:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Thre are at least different two meanings to "party chief". <ol><li>the chairman or president of a party, for instance, the president of the US Democratic Party, and also the Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.</li> <li>the main representative of a party in another institution.</li></ol></dd></dl></dd> <dd>I think this property should only be used for case 2, and that property makes most sense when the party is in power or has an official status. But there may be other cases as well. Case 1 seems to me to be essentially the same thing as the chairman of a company or any other institution. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-08T06:52:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-07T09:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yes, case 2 is what I mean. What I said is that appointing chief representatives to other institutions is a common practice of all communist parties, ruling or not. So "chief representative of the ruling party" can't handle situations that the party is not a ruling party. Perhaps we can just use "party chief representative", and use a qualifier to identify the party, e.g. <a href="/wiki/Q956" title="Q956">Beijing</a> <party chief representative> <a href="/wiki/Q1368232" title="Q1368232">Guo Jinlong</a> (qualifier: <a href="/wiki/Q17427" title="Q17427">Communist Party of China</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T10:05:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-08T06:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>That could be a solution, though we will need to check that people do not use it for case 1. If we do it this way, I would rather wait until qualifiers are available. It makes it at least theoretically possible to have several parties, and even several competing communist parties with a chief representative in the same organisation, which would make the property rather ambiguous. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-08T10:15:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Yes, I agree. We should wait qualifiers if we adopt this approach. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T12:30:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-08T10:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Ok, should I temporarily delete it to acoid confusion ? I guess Kolja was right that I was a bit hasty here ;). --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-08T12:39:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T12:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Sure. It seems reasonable. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T18:48:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-08T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Deleted. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-09T09:26:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-08T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Classical_economic_sector" data-mw-thread-id="h-Classical_economic_sector-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-03-01T09:04:00.000Z">Classical economic sector</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: the classical sector to which this organization belongs; primary, secondary, or tertiary.</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links: See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Economic_sector" class="extiw" title="w:en:Economic sector">Economic sector</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Three-sector_hypothesis" class="extiw" title="w:en:Three-sector hypothesis">Three-sector hypothesis</a>.</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: Simple enough by the look of it. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-01T09:04:00.000Z-Classical_economic_sector" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose grouping organizations by this particular hypothesis. While we do have an article by this name in English Wikipedia, it is not a category structure, indicating that it is not considered to be sufficiently defining. We very much need to be able to group organizations by type, however, and it is where I think we should begin. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-01T19:33:00.000Z-Classical_economic_sector" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>I <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose the proposal, but <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support a more specific criteria. So Microsoft is a computer company, Volkswagen an automobile company, and Pixar a film company. Of course, we would need to discuss the list of valid sectors. But the good thing is that we can include several to an organization. So for example Apple can be a software, hardware and electronics company. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-01T20:42:00.000Z-Classical_economic_sector" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Organizations_by_type" class="extiw" title="en:Category:Organizations by type">en:Category:Organizations by type</a> has a lot of options, and of course, we need remember that "organizations" include non-profit and government agencies, etc. NaBUru38, would our property for "Field of work" not cover things like "hardware and electronics", allowing us to be a little more focused on the type of organization rather than the market or product? <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> ***Shawn, the proposal is called "classical economic sector" and mentions primary, secondary and tertiary. That's very different from type of organization (government, non-profit, company). I agree that "field of work" sound similar. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-08T18:37:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-01T20:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> CommentI have found this, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.naics.com/search.htm">North American Industry Classification System</a>, which is a list/database of official codes for industries, millions of them by the look of it. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-01T21:43:00.000Z-Classical_economic_sector" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Manager" data-mw-thread-id="h-Manager-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z">Manager</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P286" title="Property:P286">Property:P286</a> <ul><li>Description: The person who manages the team</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Source: Official website or reliable third party sources</li> <li>Domain: People</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_club" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football club">en:template:Infobox football club</a>: manager</li> <li>Comments:</li> <li>In this usage, "manager" of an association football team is synonymous with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manager_(baseball)" class="extiw" title="en:Manager (baseball)">en:Manager (baseball)</a>. However in some other sports it's called a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_coach" class="extiw" title="en:Head coach">en:Head coach</a>, and as that article states in the lead, apparently a "senior coach" in Australian rules football. Could we have a single property name that could be applied to all sports? <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z-Manager" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I'd suggest that a generic field called say "managed by" would work for sports clubs, and would also work with other entities. Some cities have city managers, for example. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:49:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I don't think so, Danrok, as there is also <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_manager#Sports_teams" class="extiw" title="en:General manager">en:General_manager#Sports_teams</a>, a higher level position in many North American sports leagues, that might be closer (but still different) from the sort of city manager you mean. Anyway, I think this is all quite doable, we'd just need one for head coach/manager for the onfield operations, general manager, then CEO, owner, etc. as per all such company templates. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-25T19:55:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T19:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support as a specific type of manager, not for all organisations. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-28T23:47:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support a head coach/manager property. Other forms of "manager" to be dealt with separately, as per above.<a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:42:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Fawkesfr" title="User:Fawkesfr">Fawkes</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fawkesfr" title="User talk:Fawkesfr">d</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Fawkesfr-2013-03-10T18:03:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done created as <a href="/wiki/Property:P286" title="Property:P286">Property:P286</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-13T13:28:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-23T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Coach_/_Trainer_/_Entraîneur" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coach_/_Trainer_/_Entraîneur-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T06:51:00.000Z">Coach / Trainer / Entraîneur</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P286" title="Property:P286">Property:P286</a> <ul><li>Description: manager of the sports team or sports person</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: sports teams, like football clubs</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: football club: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_football_club" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox football club">en:Template:Infobox football club</a> (manager parameter)</li> <li>Comments: --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stryn-2013-02-05T06:51:00.000Z-Coach_/_Trainer_/_Entraîneur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:51, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Utente:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Viscontino (page does not exist)">talk</a> 17:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC) <ul><li>We need something to mark a time frame with date when the work as coach began and when it ended. Or perhaps a list of coaches instead.--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Giftzwerg_88-2013-02-16T09:42:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-02-05T06:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>And we need fields for when all posts began and ended, of course. This isn't unique to a coach. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-21T18:05:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2013-02-16T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 21 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>This will be done with Qualifiers attached to the Property, when these are implemented (From date), (To date). <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T23:03:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2013-02-16T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:17:00.000Z-Giftzwerg_88-2013-02-16T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment We'd need to be clear that this is for head coach or manager, not just "coach," of which there may be many on a team. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T16:43:00.000Z-Coach_/_Trainer_/_Entraîneur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment the infobox label is manager. Is coach the exact same thing? <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-27T17:33:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T16:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Head coach is a much more precise match, and less likely to be misused, imo. The "trainer" part worries me. On sports teams they are fairly low level positions, often, helping athletes in some cases with fairly menial things. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T17:48:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-27T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Don't worry about the "trainer" part, that's just the German translation for "coach". --<a href="/wiki/User:Carport" title="User:Carport">Carport</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carport" title="User talk:Carport">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Carport-2013-03-08T17:28:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Coach can be personal coach or coach of sports team. Head coach can't be personal coach I think. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stryn-2013-02-28T09:54:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T16:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment note that an identical proposal is being discussed above, as "manager." <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:44:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T16:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support As head coach. Maybe a property "assistant coach" could also be added? --<a href="/wiki/User:Carport" title="User:Carport">Carport</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carport" title="User talk:Carport">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Carport-2013-03-08T17:28:00.000Z-Coach_/_Trainer_/_Entraîneur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Fawkesfr" title="User:Fawkesfr">Fawkes</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fawkesfr" title="User talk:Fawkesfr">d</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Fawkesfr-2013-03-12T18:32:00.000Z-Carport-2013-03-08T17:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done though not without at least one rather serious problem, imo. Please see <a href="/wiki/Property:P286" title="Property:P286">Property:P286</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-14T19:46:00.000Z-Carport-2013-03-08T17:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Frequent-flyer_program_/_Vielflieger-Programm_/_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Frequent-flyer_program_/_Vielflieger-Programm_/_...-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z">Frequent-flyer program / Vielflieger-Programm / ...</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: The frequent flier program the airline uses</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Airlines</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_airline" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox airline">en:Template:Infobox airline</a></li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Macadamia1472">Macadamia1472</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Macadamia1472">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-Frequent-flyer_program_/_Vielflieger-Programm_/_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Milad A380">Milad A380</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Milad A380">talk?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Milad_A380-2013-02-15T20:58:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support useful and non-subjective. sure, <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T04:10:00.000Z-Frequent-flyer_program_/_Vielflieger-Programm_/_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose marketing thing. Not needed --<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Giftzwerg_88-2013-03-10T10:38:00.000Z-Frequent-flyer_program_/_Vielflieger-Programm_/_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Notable_Accidents" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notable_Accidents-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z">Notable Accidents</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: A notable accident involving that airline</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Airlines</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: only aviation occurrences or hull loss, not administrative etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Macadamia1472">Macadamia1472</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Macadamia1472">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-Notable_Accidents" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support important -- <a href="/wiki/User:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Milad A380">Milad A380</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Milad A380">talk?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Milad_A380-2013-02-15T20:58:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Livery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Livery-Organization_/_Organisation_/_Organisation-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z">Livery</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: The airline's livery</li> <li>Datatype: Media</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Airlines</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: likely a photograph of an airplane in that airlines livery <a href="/wiki/User:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Macadamia1472">Macadamia1472</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macadamia1472" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Macadamia1472">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-Livery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Perhaps it would be useful to have another item for "livery colour"? Multiple coulors could be specified, e.g. red, blue. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:39:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support important -- <a href="/wiki/User:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Milad A380">Milad A380</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Milad_A380" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Milad A380">talk?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Milad_A380-2013-02-15T20:58:00.000Z-Macadamia1472-2013-02-05T23:29:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T17:03:00.000Z-Livery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose If this is supposed to simply be an image showing one of the airline's aircraft, then I think the existing "image" statement is sufficient. After all, the "logo image" statement exists, so the "image" statement will presumably always be available. - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) 00:28, 2 March 2013 (UTC</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Event_/_Veranstaltung_/_Évènement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Event_/_Veranstaltung_/_Évènement-2013-03-04T18:46:00.000Z">Event / Veranstaltung / Évènement</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Member_of_series_/_Mitglied_der_Reihe_/_Membre_de_la_série" data-mw-thread-id="h-Member_of_series_/_Mitglied_der_Reihe_/_Membre_de_la_série-Event_/_Veranstaltung_/_Évènement-2013-03-04T18:46:00.000Z">Member of series / Mitglied der Reihe / Membre de la série</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: An instance of a regular/recurring series of events (e.g. 2008 Summer Olympics is a member of series Summer Olympics; 2008 US presidential election is a member of series US presidential elections)</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: events</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments:</li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment. Are you aware of the <a href="/wiki/Property:P179" title="Property:P179">existing property "series"</a>? It is generic, and I think that's good. It could be used to relate specific instances of an event to the recurring event, relate episodes (with articles!) of television shows to the television show entry, and so on. As such I oppose the addition of this very similar new property. Renaming "series" as "member of series" might be a good idea, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:46:00.000Z-Member_of_series_/_Mitglied_der_Reihe_/_Membre_de_la_série" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z">Creative work / Werk / Œuvre créative</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Art_/_Kunst_/_Art" data-mw-thread-id="h-Art_/_Kunst_/_Art-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-08T18:36:00.000Z">Art / Kunst / Art</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Creator" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creator-Art_/_Kunst_/_Art-2013-02-08T18:36:00.000Z">Creator</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P170" title="Property:P170">Property:P170</a> <ul><li>Description: creator of a work of art (e.g. painting, sculpture)</li> <li>Datatype: item</li> <li>Links: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.getty.edu/research/publications/electronic_publications/intrometadata/crosswalks.html">getty</a></li> <li>Domain: Painting, sculpture, other works of art</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Creator" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Creator">commons:Template:Creator</a></li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Aude" title="User:Aude">Aude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aude" title="User talk:Aude">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aude-2013-02-08T18:36:00.000Z-Creator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Support, as long as it's restricted to works of equal members. Films and plays should get actors / directos / producers, songs should get vocalists / guiterrists / painists / drummers / etc. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:35:00.000Z-Aude-2013-02-08T18:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>We should chose a unique name. For Commons "creator" is o.k. But Wikidata has already other creators like: author, composer, librettist, screenwriter, architect etc. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-13T00:14:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 13 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>There seem to be so many kinds of creators that can participate in a work. Think of "engraving by XX of a painting by Delcroix after Titian", or look for "Design and construction" at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa" class="extiw" title="en:Burj Khalifa">en:Burj_Khalifa</a>. I would think the best solution would be to have just one property:Creator, and many qualifiers. BUt it may not be the most intuitive for an occasional user. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-02-14T11:19:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Agree about having more specific properties (director, author, etc.) but think it also helps to have a more generic property that can cover other works. <a href="/wiki/User:Aude" title="User:Aude">Aude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aude" title="User talk:Aude">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aude-2013-02-15T03:03:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-14T11:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support for use with artists - creators of paintings, sculpture. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-27T22:33:00.000Z-Aude-2013-02-08T18:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> Ok, I will create it. Do I call it creator ? I think it is the best solution, as anyhow, other people like "author" or "pianist" may be considered subsets of "creator. We can also use "artist", but it is not as neutral, and may not be always relevant. --19:51, 28 February 2013 (UTC)~ <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P170" title="Property:P170">Property:P170</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-01T06:47:00.000Z-Creator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Meant for artists and should be called "artist" (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P170" title="Property talk:P170">Property talk:P170</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-02T00:53:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-03-01T06:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Accession_number" data-mw-thread-id="h-Accession_number-Art_/_Kunst_/_Art-2013-03-06T21:10:00.000Z">Accession number</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P217" title="Property:P217">Property:P217</a> <ul><li>Description: a string that identifies an object within a museum's collection</li> <li>Datatype: string</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: museal objects</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: used by most museums, although some use a different name</li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as "inventory number". It is not the most common way to call it in English but it is a correct, more general term very commonly used in other languages. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T21:10:00.000Z-Accession_number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Written_works" data-mw-thread-id="h-Written_works-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-08T13:43:00.000Z">Written works</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="International_Standard_Book_Number_/_ISBN_/_ISBN" data-mw-thread-id="h-International_Standard_Book_Number_/_ISBN_/_ISBN-Written_works-2013-02-08T13:43:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q33057" title="Q33057">International Standard Book Number / ISBN / ISBN</a></h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P212" title="Property:P212">Property:P212</a> <ul><li>Description: Numeric commercial book identifier, used since the 70s</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Link:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example :</li> <li>Comments: Is it ok, if we just use ISBN-13 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.isbn.org/converterpub.asp">ISBN Online Converter</a>)? <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Definitely needed. I think we should use either ISBN-10 or ISBN-13, whichever one the work was originally issued in, because the software can handle it either way. But that's just me.</li> <li>The data type should not be StrinValue, but ExternalID, with an appropriate pattern for validating, and a pattern for building URIs. That type is not in the spec (yet), but we'll get it before we'll get free text, I think. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Duesentrieb" title="User:Duesentrieb">Duesentrieb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Duesentrieb" title="User talk:Duesentrieb">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Duesentrieb-2013-02-08T13:43:00.000Z-International_Standard_Book_Number_/_ISBN_/_ISBN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>Support. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Duesentrieb-2013-02-08T13:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>Support, but there will normally be multiple ISBNs for a book, and in most cases all of them will be given in any library metadata we use. Not just is there the ISBN-13 vs ISBN-10 question, but there are different ISBNs for paperback vs hardback, or for any different format under which the book is sold (this is in original bookseller's number, not a library number, though libraries use it as well.) There is in my opinion no simple solution here. (in enWP, there seems to be no standard practice. I note that in searching a library catalog, any ISBN is enough to retrieve the record,since libraries include all the ones possible.) <a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG">DGG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-DGG-2013-02-15T16:22:00.000Z-Duesentrieb-2013-02-08T13:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>As DGG says: moreover, there will be another ISBN for the ebook. I think we should use it just when we are referring to a particular edition, but avoid it when unnecessary. (it's gonna be complicated). --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aubrey-2013-02-16T20:18:00.000Z-DGG-2013-02-15T16:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>How about a own e-book ISBN. So an item can have ISBN and e-book ISBN or only one of each and everybody knows the reference.--<a href="/wiki/User:Giftzwerg_88" title="User:Giftzwerg 88">Giftzwerg 88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giftzwerg_88" title="User talk:Giftzwerg 88">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Giftzwerg_88-2013-02-17T13:00:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-16T20:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 17 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Can't we just store as many of a work's (or edition's) ISBNs as we can find? It doesn't seem that complicated to me, but maybe I'm missing something. --<a href="/wiki/User:Avenue" title="User:Avenue">Avenue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Avenue" title="User talk:Avenue">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Avenue-2013-02-17T17:33:00.000Z-DGG-2013-02-15T16:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 17 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Page 25 from one edition does not have to be the same p. 25 from an other. So it's important that we add the correct ISBN. (In many countries the paper back edition is different from the hard cover edition.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-18T01:07:00.000Z-Avenue-2013-02-17T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ISSN/International_Standard_Serial_Number" data-mw-thread-id="h-ISSN/International_Standard_Serial_Number-Written_works-2013-02-11T13:49:00.000Z">ISSN/International Standard Serial Number</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P236" title="Property:P236">Property:P236</a> <ul><li>Description: see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Serial_Number" class="extiw" title="w:International Standard Serial Number">International Standard Serial Number</a>.</li> <li>Datatype: String</li> <li>Link:</li> <li>Domain: periodical publications</li> <li>Comments: Like ISBN, but for periodicals. <a href="/wiki/User:MER-C" title="User:MER-C">MER-C</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MER-C" title="User talk:MER-C">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MER-C-2013-02-11T13:49:00.000Z-ISSN/International_Standard_Serial_Number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>There will generally be two ISSNs, one for print, and one for electronic. Standard library practice is now to give both of them, specifying which is which. <a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG">DGG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-DGG-2013-02-15T16:25:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-11T13:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-11T13:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>ISSNs and ISBNs have been to some extent combined and superseded by EANs. How should we treat this? <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T23:15:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>IMHO, ISBN and ISSN are very common and easy to find. They would be my first choice for an identifier. I'd add every identifier available, if needed and informative. Maybe we can have directly a repeatable property called "identifier" and different qualifiers called ISBN, ISSN, etc. Not sure how to implement it though. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aubrey-2013-02-25T07:28:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T23:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:28, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>ISBNs are now a subset of EANs. However, I can't imagine many circumstances in which we would be using EANs - they're very much "product codes". ISSN has not been merged into the EAN system as far as I understand it. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Gray" title="User:Andrew Gray">Andrew Gray</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Gray" title="User talk:Andrew Gray">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Andrew_Gray-2013-03-06T23:27:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-02-24T23:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:47:00.000Z-ISSN/International_Standard_Serial_Number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P236" title="Property:P236">Property:P236</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.issn.org/2-22638-ISSN-and-electronic-publications.php">www.issn.org: ISSN-and-electronic-publications</a> shows, that we will need an qualifier. And there is a new system: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.issn.org/2-22637-What-is-an-ISSN-L.php">ISSN-L</a> ("The linking ISSN or ISSN-L enables collocation or linking among different media versions of a continuing resource.") --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-07T01:53:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="OCLC/Online_Computer_Library_Center_Control_Number" data-mw-thread-id="h-OCLC/Online_Computer_Library_Center_Control_Number-Written_works-2013-02-15T16:28:00.000Z">OCLC/Online Computer Library Center Control Number</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P243" title="Property:P243">Property:P243</a> <ul><li>Description: Numeric book identifier, similar to ISBN but withou date restriction, and aggreates above the edition level.</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.oclc.org/batchprocessing/controlnumber.htm">Official site</a></li> <li>Infobox parameter example : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OCLC_English_example" class="extiw" title="en:Template:OCLC English example">en:Template:OCLC English example</a></li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: this is needed, because most older books before about 1970 do not have ISBNs. Any book cataloged in the US will however have an OCLC number. The problem remains of how to handle books not cataloged there. <a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG">DGG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-DGG-2013-02-15T16:28:00.000Z-OCLC/Online_Computer_Library_Center_Control_Number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:31:00.000Z-OCLC/Online_Computer_Library_Center_Control_Number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sven Manguard">Sven Manguard</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sven Manguard">Wha?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-26T04:58:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P243" title="Property:P243">Property:P243</a> -- now that "string" is available and some related properties (e.g. ISBN) have been created. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-07T18:21:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="License" data-mw-thread-id="h-License-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z">License</h3></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P275" title="Property:P275">Property:P275</a> <ul><li>Description: License the content produced by the organization is released under</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="/wiki/Q52" title="Q52">Q52</a> (Wikipedia) <licensed under> <a href="/wiki/Q3910767" title="Q3910767">Q3910767</a> (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License">en:Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License</a>). <a href="/wiki/Q2013" title="Q2013">Q2013</a> (Wikidata) <licensed under> <a href="/wiki/Q5271108" title="Q5271108">Q5271108</a> (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:cc-zero" class="extiw" title="en:Template:cc-zero">en:Template:cc-zero</a>)</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm" title="User talk:Legoktm">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z-License" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support I guess it could be useful, don't see a reason why not to have it. Regards, — <a href="/wiki/User:Moe_Epsilon" title="User:Moe Epsilon">Moe</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moe_Epsilon" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Moe Epsilon">Epsilon</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-02-28T20:32:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-28T23:46:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:43:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Nothing against the property itself, but it should like to mainstream items, that refer to real contents, not to items like <a href="/wiki/Q3910767" title="Q3910767">Q3910767</a> and <a href="/wiki/Q2013" title="Q2013">Q2013</a> that just gather links to the Wikipedia and template namespaces. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-04T16:41:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>I <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support the property but I strongly <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose linking to <a href="/wiki/Q3910767" title="Q3910767">Q3910767</a> (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License">en:Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License</a>) and similar. Instead we should create an item for each Creative Commons-license (7 items) and use them, then we can do <a href="/wiki/Q14579" title="Q14579">Q14579</a> (Linux) <licensed under> <a href="/wiki/Q7603" title="Q7603">Q7603</a> (GNU General Public License). So it would be consistent. We have items for all relevant licenses, only for the different CC-licenses there are not different items yet. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T15:12:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>I strongly agree with MichaelSchoenitzer. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-10T15:15:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T15:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment I've also proposed the creation of those seven items at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Notability#Exception_for_CreativeCommons-licenses" title="Wikidata talk:Notability">Wikidata talk:Notability</a>. Please comment, I'd like to create them soon and start to using them. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-11T21:30:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, but I'm not sure I understand its scope. The description says "content", but MichaelSchoenitzer suggests using it for software, which I wouldn't usually class as content. I wouldn't object to using it that way, but then I think the description should be revised. Are we just talking about copyright licenses (i.e. not about trademarks or other rights)? I'd also quibble about the word "organization", since much content is produced by individuals, or at least unorganised groups of individuals (Wikipedia being a good example). Would this be a better description: "License under which this copyrighted work is released"? --<a href="/wiki/User:Avenue" title="User:Avenue">Avenue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Avenue" title="User talk:Avenue">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Avenue-2013-03-12T03:30:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-02-24T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>You're right that description would be clearer. Since there are a lot of Pros and none Cons here and the items for the CC-licenses have been created recently, I'm going to create the Property. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-12T11:29:00.000Z-Avenue-2013-03-12T03:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P275" title="Property:P275">Created.</a> -- section can be archived. Please help translating the property name & description. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-12T11:46:00.000Z-License" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Place_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsort_/_Lieu_de_publication" data-mw-thread-id="h-Place_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsort_/_Lieu_de_publication-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q1361759" title="Q1361759">Place of publication / Erscheinungsort / Lieu de publication</a></h3></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P291" title="Property:P291">Property:P291</a> <ul><li>Description: Place of publication</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_book" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Cite book">en:Template:Cite book</a> (location)</li> <li>Comments: Basic info --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z-Place_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsort_/_Lieu_de_publication" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>It should be something like "Place of publication" in order to doesn't mix this property to the property that may link an event to its place. I've updated the name.<a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-02-18T00:58:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T06:12:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Musik" data-mw-thread-id="h-Musik-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-27T15:46:00.000Z">Musik</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Label_(record)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Label_(record)-Musik-2013-02-27T15:46:00.000Z">Label (record)</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P264" title="Property:P264">Property:P264</a> <ul><li>Description: The record label as used in infoboxes.</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Like_a_Virgin_(song)" class="extiw" title="w:en:Like a Virgin (song)">Like a Virgin (song)</a></li> <li>Infobox parameter example: Infobox album, single; label.</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-27T15:46:00.000Z-Label_(record)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-02-27T15:54:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-27T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Utente:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Viscontino (page does not exist)">talk</a> 10:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</li> <li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P264" title="Property:P264">Property:P264</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-10T06:58:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-27T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment many record labels are not notable enough for article. Some songs/albums have many record labels, because same label don't always release albums in all countries. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stryn-2013-03-10T22:45:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-27T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Film" data-mw-thread-id="h-Film-Creative_work_/_Werk_/_Œuvre_créative-2013-02-22T15:37:00.000Z">Film</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Production_company" data-mw-thread-id="h-Production_company-Film-2013-02-22T15:37:00.000Z">Production company</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P272" title="Property:P272">Property:P272</a> <ul><li>Description: Company or companies that are credited as having produced a film (not to be confused with people who serve in the role of "producers")</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Source:</li> <li>Domain: Organizations</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_film" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox film">en:Template:Infobox film</a> (studio)</li> <li>Comments: As a member of the Film WikiProject, I'd been meaning for some time propose a change to the "Studio" field in the infoxbox, to "Production company." "Studio" is an ambiguous and inaccurate term. Ambiguous, because as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_studio" class="extiw" title="en:Film studio">en:Film studio</a> states, "Film studio" can refer both to a "major Entertainment Company or Motion Picture Company" that historically has owned its own studio spaces -- in other words, like "Hollywood" itself, a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/metonym" class="extiw" title="en:metonym">en:metonym</a> -- or it can simply refer to "studio facilities, who have never produced a motion picture of their own." <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_company" class="extiw" title="en:Production company">en:Production company</a> (though in need of references) is both more precise and encompassing: "production company provides the physical basis for works in the realms of the performing arts, new media art, film, television, radio, and video." And as one can see, has the advantage of being used not just for works of cinema. It also reflects the fact that a great many films in this day and age are not made by the "major studios." We are in an age of independent cinema and small production companies that cannot be called "studios" are also making a great many more films. Some might wish to preserve Studio as a separate field in cases where a film has been made by a recognized "studio." I have no take on the viability of that but would not be opposed. thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-22T15:37:00.000Z-Production_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 22 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Could be used for broadcasting as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-22T20:08:00.000Z-Production_company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 22 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Good point, yes, I see that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_television" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox television">en:Template:Infobox television</a> already lists it merely as "company", which displays in the template as "Production company(s)." Whereas on the cinema side of things we're forced to mis-identify an indie film house like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeSteelFilm" class="extiw" title="en:EyeSteelFilm">en:EyeSteelFilm</a> -- to choose an example from my hometown -- as a "studio" if we wish to list it in film infoboxes for its productions. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-22T20:56:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-22T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T19:33:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-22T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, and let's use it for all works that have production companies. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:25:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-22T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>Can we please create this? It seems to be unanimously supported. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-10T14:20:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-22T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Why don´t you do it? --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-10T16:51:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-10T14:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>I didn't realize I could. I know how to create an item, but how does one create a property, is there a link or tutorial someone can post here? <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-10T17:19:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-10T16:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>You can create a property in <a href="/wiki/Special:NewProperty" title="Special:NewProperty">Special:NewProperty</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-10T17:30:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-10T17:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done thank you Steven! I suppose there's a good reason why the property creation page is not clearly linked to (or linked at all?) from the property proposal page? Anyway, please see <a href="/wiki/Property:P272" title="Property:P272">Property:P272</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-10T17:34:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-03-10T17:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme" data-mw-thread-id="h-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-02-03T04:45:00.000Z">Term / Sachbegriff / Terme</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Products" data-mw-thread-id="h-Products-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-03-03T04:49:00.000Z">Products</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Designer_/_Designer_/_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Designer_/_Designer_/_...-Products-2013-03-03T04:49:00.000Z">Designer / Designer / ...</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P287" title="Property:P287">Property:P287</a> <ul><li>Description: designer of an item</li> <li>Datatype: item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: fashion, vehicles, software etc.</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_automobile" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox automobile">en:Template:Infobox automobile</a></li> <li>Comments: --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-03T04:49:00.000Z-Designer_/_Designer_/_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:49, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P287" title="Property:P287">Property:P287</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T00:45:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-03T04:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Astronomical_objects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Astronomical_objects-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-02-08T13:22:00.000Z">Astronomical objects</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Stellar_classification" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stellar_classification-Astronomical_objects-2013-02-08T13:22:00.000Z">Stellar classification</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P215" title="Property:P215">Property:P215</a> <ul><li>Description: The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/stellar_classification" class="extiw" title="w:stellar classification">spectral class</a> of a star.</li> <li>Datatype: String</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: all articles on stars</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_planet" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox planet">en:template:Infobox planet</a> spectral_type</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:MER-C" title="User:MER-C">MER-C</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MER-C" title="User talk:MER-C">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:22:00.000Z-Stellar_classification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T14:57:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-02-09T01:19:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>Could we limit this to a regex (like /[OBAFGKM][0-9](I|II|III|IV|V)/) or some kind of semantic way of specifying this? I guess a string would be okay, but you could also set the value to "jndjkvndfjkv". <a href="/wiki/User:PiRSquared17" title="User:PiRSquared17">πr2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PiRSquared17" title="User talk:PiRSquared17">t</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17" title="Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17">c</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-PiRSquared17-2013-02-09T16:37:00.000Z-MER-C-2013-02-08T13:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment It is a good idea, but I don't know if it is technically possible. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Paperoastro-2013-02-14T00:41:00.000Z-PiRSquared17-2013-02-09T16:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Galaxy_morphological_type" data-mw-thread-id="h-Galaxy_morphological_type-Astronomical_objects-2013-02-08T16:41:00.000Z">Galaxy morphological type</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P223" title="Property:P223">Property:P223</a> <ul><li>Description: The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_morphological_classification" class="extiw" title="w:Galaxy morphological classification">galaxy morphological classification</a>.</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Strings_that_are_not_translated" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Data model">StringValue</a></li> <li>Source: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/">NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database</a></li> <li>Domain: galaxies.</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_galaxy" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox galaxy">en:Template:Infobox galaxy</a> type</li> <li>Example values: SB(s)m, SA(s)b, SAB(s)bc</li> <li>Comments: --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T16:41:00.000Z-Galaxy_morphological_type" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support with a similar comment as I had for stellar classification. <a href="/wiki/User:PiRSquared17" title="User:PiRSquared17">πr2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PiRSquared17" title="User talk:PiRSquared17">t</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17" title="Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17">c</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-PiRSquared17-2013-02-09T16:37:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T16:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment We should be restrictive to string types, so please do not create them as fast. Is the allowed values a limited set - meaning that we can create items for each of them? <a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Mange01-2013-03-07T02:21:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-02-08T16:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:21, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Minor-planet_group" data-mw-thread-id="h-Minor-planet_group-Astronomical_objects-2013-03-02T19:57:00.000Z">Minor-planet group</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P196" title="Property:P196">Property:P196</a> <ul><li>Description: For asteroids/minor-planets, saying which family they are in.</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_family" class="extiw" title="en:Asteroid family">en:Asteroid family</a></li> <li>Domain: all minor planets which are members of a defined family</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_planet" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox planet">en:Template:Infobox planet</a> mp_category</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Inductiveload" title="User:Inductiveload">Inductiveload</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inductiveload" title="User talk:Inductiveload">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Inductiveload-2013-03-02T19:57:00.000Z-Minor-planet_group" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Paperoastro-2013-03-05T15:30:00.000Z-Inductiveload-2013-03-02T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P196" title="Property:P196">P196</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Inductiveload" title="User:Inductiveload">Inductiveload</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inductiveload" title="User talk:Inductiveload">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Inductiveload-2013-03-06T23:42:00.000Z-Inductiveload-2013-03-02T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Type_of_astronomical_object_/_Astronomisches_Objekt_/_Objet_céleste" data-mw-thread-id="h-Type_of_astronomical_object_/_Astronomisches_Objekt_/_Objet_céleste-Astronomical_objects-2013-02-26T12:06:00.000Z"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P60&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P60 (page does not exist)">Type of astronomical object</a> / Astronomisches Objekt / Objet céleste</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P60&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P60 (page does not exist)">Property:P60</a> <ul><li>Description: type of astronomical object; for a complete list, see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Infoboxes_task_force/terms#List_of_astronomic_objects_/_/" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Infoboxes task force/terms">this list</a>.</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example: e.g. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/it:Template:Oggetto_non_stellare" class="extiw" title="w:it:Template:Oggetto non stellare">w:it:Template:Oggetto_non_stellare</a> tipo</li> <li>Comments: this properties was discarded in <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/1#astronomical_object" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/1">this discussion</a> in favour of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">Property:P31</a>, but now <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2013/02/26#Property:P31_"is_a"" title="Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2013/02/26">seems</a> that the idea is to have more specific properties for "types", as for example <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P132&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P132 (page does not exist)">type of administrative division</a> or <a href="/wiki/Property:P106" title="Property:P106">occupation</a>. Imho I'm agree with its recovery. If there will be consensus, I will ask to recover this property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Paperoastro-2013-02-26T12:06:00.000Z-Type_of_astronomical_object_/_Astronomisches_Objekt_/_Objet_céleste" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Useful, see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_object" class="extiw" title="en:Astronomical object">en:Astronomical object</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-03-02T01:12:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-02-26T12:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-07T21:42:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-02-26T12:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Paperoastro-2013-03-07T23:24:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-02-26T12:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Languages_/_Sprachen_/_Langues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Languages_/_Sprachen_/_Langues-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-02-03T18:30:00.000Z">Languages / Sprachen / Langues</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ISO_639_/_ISO_639_/_ISO_639" data-mw-thread-id="h-ISO_639_/_ISO_639_/_ISO_639-Languages_/_Sprachen_/_Langues-2013-02-03T18:30:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Q33547" title="Q33547">ISO 639 / ISO 639 / ISO 639</a></h4></div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P218" title="Property:P218">Property:P218</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P219" title="Property:P219">Property:P219</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P220" title="Property:P220">Property:P220</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P221" title="Property:P221">Property:P221</a> <ul><li>Description: ISO 639 codes</li> <li>Datatype: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#String" class="extiw" title="m:Wikidata/Data model">String</a></li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: Please create one for ISO 639-1, -2, -3, and -6.</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q715516" title="Q715516">ISO 639-1</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q721667" title="Q721667">ISO 639-2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q845956" title="Q845956">ISO 639-3</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Q153666" title="Q153666">ISO 639-6</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-03T18:30:00.000Z-ISO_639_/_ISO_639_/_ISO_639" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 3 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li>Support. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:39:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-03T18:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Please notice that a language can have several ISO 639-1 codes, several ISO 639-2 codes, several ISO 639-3 codes. <a href="/wiki/User:Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e" title="User:Visite fortuitement prolongée">Visite fortuitement prolongée</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e" title="User talk:Visite fortuitement prolongée">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2013-03-02T21:37:00.000Z-ISO_639_/_ISO_639_/_ISO_639" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P218" title="Property:P218">P:P218</a> -> <a href="/wiki/Property:P221" title="Property:P221">P:P221</a>. We can add several values to a property when needed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T21:46:00.000Z-Visite_fortuitement_prolongée-2013-03-02T21:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Biology" data-mw-thread-id="h-Biology-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-02-03T04:45:00.000Z">Biology</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading5"><h5 id="Taxon_name" data-mw-thread-id="h-Taxon_name-Biology-2013-02-03T04:45:00.000Z">Taxon name</h5></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P225" title="Property:P225">Property:P225</a> <ul><li>Description: Formal system of naming species of living things (scientific name; informally and inaccurately also called "Latin name").</li> <li>Datatype: StringValue</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: Use by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Taxobox" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Taxobox">en:Template:Taxobox</a>, <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Taxobox" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Taxobox">de:Vorlage:Taxobox</a> etc. (See also: <a href="https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_page" class="extiw" title="species:Main page">species:Main page</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Kolja21-2013-02-03T04:45:00.000Z-Taxon_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>We should prefer family name, genus name, species name (maybe just the specific epithet?) etc. imho. <a href="/wiki/User:Totodu74" title="User:Totodu74">Totodu74</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Totodu74" title="User talk:Totodu74">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Totodu74-2013-02-05T19:56:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-03T04:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>The epithet is not vely useful without the genus name, so there's no reason to store it without it IMO. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-06T15:57:00.000Z-Totodu74-2013-02-05T19:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li>Also, should not be family name or genus name IMO, because rank is subjective, see below. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-06T15:58:00.000Z-Totodu74-2013-02-05T19:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li> <li>I like "taxon name", but "scientific name" is common in the community because <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/#scientificName">of DarwinCore</a>. I don't like "taxon" because there are probably going to be more than one taxon name referring to a particular taxon, so I see taxon name as a property of an object of class Taxon.--<a href="/wiki/User:Gaurav" title="User:Gaurav">Gaurav</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gaurav&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Gaurav (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Gaurav-2013-02-14T18:03:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-03T04:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 14 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>You're right. "taxon name" or "scientific name", then. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Soulkeeper-2013-03-01T09:44:00.000Z-Gaurav-2013-02-14T18:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support - Basic unit. No need to divide this property into ranks, because rank should be a property on its own. (currently "is a" is used for rank). <s>I suggest calling the property "taxon" instead of "taxon name".</s> - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:18:00.000Z-Taxon_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><ul><li><ul><li>The point is that the same species name can be used for different organisms, but is never used for different organisms within the same genus. The problem is that these names change from time to time, and it is quite common that what may be called the traditional taxon name, & is the name most likely to be known to non-spoecialists--even non-specialist biologists, is not the current taxon name in formal use. <a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG">DGG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-DGG-2013-02-15T16:41:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support, but a less ambiguous name would be Latin binomial. --<a href="/wiki/User:OldakQuill" title="User:OldakQuill">OldakQuill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OldakQuill" title="User talk:OldakQuill">talk</a>) 23:02, 4 March 2013 (UTC) PS. Might it not be possible, with software modifications, for a property to be an automatic concatenation of two other properties? So that the {Taxon name} would be a concatenation of {Genus}+" "+{species}? --<a href="/wiki/User:OldakQuill" title="User:OldakQuill">OldakQuill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OldakQuill" title="User talk:OldakQuill">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-OldakQuill-2013-03-04T23:02:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>"Latin binominal" is a bit inaccurate/misleading, as binominal names can contain words from all languages, from Greek to Old Norse to Native American languages. Maybe "Latinized binominal" would be more accurate, but I personally prefer "Taxon name". Anyway, making aliases for properties is not a problem. Automatic concatenation would be useful only for species and subspecies, and would require us to store the <a href="/wiki/Q908437" title="Q908437">epithet(s)</a> by itself. An epithet has no utility value by itself, and if the genus name changes, the epithet might have to be updated with a new grammatical gender anyway, so I don't really see any gain in storing it separately. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Soulkeeper-2013-03-05T16:38:00.000Z-OldakQuill-2013-03-04T23:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done - <a href="/wiki/Property:P225" title="Property:P225">Property:P225</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Soulkeeper-2013-03-06T22:54:00.000Z-Taxon_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment This is redundant if it will be possible to use Latin-language content from wikidata on e.g. English wikipedia. If that is the case, i propose this property is deleted. Users who want to add Latin names should add Latin interface (at least a babel user information box makes it appear), or switch to it, which is exceptionally simple. This property misses the reason behind making Wikidata, namely to avoid unnecessary duplication of work. I reckon this is a win-win situation, or synergy if you like, that should be taken advantage of. - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-07T02:51:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-03-06T22:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:51, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>'Taxon name' is the scientific name and it is NOT Latin. At most it can be considered like 'Latinized scientific name'. Wolf taxon name is 'Canis lupus' when latin is 'lupus'. Domestic dogs taxon name is 'Canis lupus familiaris' when latin is 'canis'.</dd> <dd>Also, 'Taxon name' == 'scientific name' which can be used for any rank (order,family) NOT only for species like 'binomial name' <a href="/wiki/User:Lin%C3%A91" title="User:Liné1">Liné1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lin%C3%A91" title="User talk:Liné1">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Liné1-2013-03-08T13:22:00.000Z-Ssolbergj-2013-03-07T02:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="ships" data-mw-thread-id="h-ships-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z">ships</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ship_class" data-mw-thread-id="h-ship_class-ships-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z">ship class</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P289" title="Property:P289">Property:P289</a> <ul><li>Description: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_class" class="extiw" title="w:Ship class">Ship class</a></li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments:</li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z-ship_class" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P289" title="Property:P289">Property:P289</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-14T21:39:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ship_type" data-mw-thread-id="h-ship_type-ships-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z">ship type</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ships_by_type" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Ships by type">type</a></li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments:</li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z-ship_type" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P288&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P288 (page does not exist)">Property:P288</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T11:00:00.000Z-ship_type" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="ship_designer" data-mw-thread-id="h-ship_designer-ships-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z">ship designer</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: Designer of the ship/yacht</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments:</li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T15:46:00.000Z-ship_designer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>We have now <a href="/wiki/Property:P287" title="Property:P287">Property:P287</a> (designer). --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T00:54:00.000Z-ship_designer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="mountain" data-mw-thread-id="h-mountain-Term_/_Sachbegriff_/_Terme-2013-03-15T02:43:00.000Z">mountain</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Mountain_range_/_Gebirgszug_/_Cordillère" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mountain_range_/_Gebirgszug_/_Cordillère-mountain-2013-03-15T02:43:00.000Z">Mountain range / Gebirgszug / Cordillère</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P295&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P295 (page does not exist)">Property:P295</a> <ul><li>Description: Mountain range, the mountain range this item is part of</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_mountain" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox mountain">en:Template:Infobox mountain</a>: range</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Domain: Place</li> <li>Allowed values:</li> <li>Source: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mountain_ranges" class="extiw" title="en:Category:Mountain ranges">en:Category:Mountain ranges</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountain_ranges" class="extiw" title="en:List of mountain ranges">en:List of mountain ranges</a></li> <li>Example item and value: Mount Everest - Himalaya</li> <li>Robot and gadget jobs:</li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-15T02:43:00.000Z-Mountain_range_/_Gebirgszug_/_Cordillère" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:43, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-15T06:06:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-15T02:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P295&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P295 (page does not exist)">Property:P295</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-17T18:27:00.000Z-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-15T02:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu" data-mw-thread-id="h-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-02-05T04:06:00.000Z">Place / Geografikum / Lieu</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Buried_here" data-mw-thread-id="h-Buried_here-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-03-10T11:57:00.000Z">Buried here</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: People buried at a given place (cemetery, mausoleum). Complementary to <a href="/wiki/Property:P119" title="Property:P119">Property:P119</a> (place of burial)</li> <li>Datatype: item <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P266&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P266 (page does not exist)">Property:P266</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"> Docu </a> at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Docu-2013-03-10T11:57:00.000Z-Buried_here" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Coat_of_arms_description_/_/_Description_des_armoiries" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coat_of_arms_description_/_/_Description_des_armoiries-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-02-05T04:06:00.000Z">Coat of arms description / / Description des armoiries</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P237" title="Property:P237">Property:P237</a> <ul><li>Description: Description of coat of arms</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Infobox parameter example:</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-EugeneZelenko-2013-02-05T04:06:00.000Z-Coat_of_arms_description_/_/_Description_des_armoiries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li>Support without "description", because this is not a string value containing a description. It's a link to a description; I think the distinction is important when naming properties. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-02-06T16:16:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-02-05T04:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd>Shouldn't this be a media item from commons? <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Filceolaire-2013-02-25T00:35:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-02-05T04:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>No. There are articles about flags. Same situation with anthem: we have media and item properties for it. --<a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-EugeneZelenko-2013-02-25T01:58:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-02-25T00:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment How about creating an additional property <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Blazon" class="extiw" title="w:en:Blazon">blazon</a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Blasonierung" class="extiw" title="w:de:Blasonierung">Blasonierung</a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fr:Blason_(h%C3%A9raldique)#Blason" class="extiw" title="w:fr:Blason (héraldique)">blason</a> as a MultilingualText value, for when there is no article on history/usage but a blazon (description) exists? /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-25T11:33:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-02-05T04:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Many of the coats of arms have multiple variants, and individual variants rarely have their own article. Greater coats of arms, for instance, often have lengthy blazons, which describe various degrees of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_(heraldry)" class="extiw" title="en:Achievement (heraldry)">achievement</a>, in addition to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)" class="extiw" title="en:Escutcheon (heraldry)">escutcheon</a>. So a single "Coat of arms description" (or rather: "coat of arms blazon") property could create confusion, unless there are properties for greater, middle and lesser arms, along with separate properties for their respective blazons. If <a href="#Escutcheon_/_Wappenschild_/_Écu">this proposal</a> goes through, a blazon item with a more specific purpose could be "Escutcheon blazon". - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ssolbergj-2013-02-26T00:44:00.000Z-Ch1902-2013-02-25T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>In that case we could have one property (coat of arms) added multiple times for each variant and a qualifier for each variant specifying its type or usage (greater arms, escutheon, father's arms, arms before marriage, etc). I think (or I hope) it will be possible to query using qualifiers, so you could still select just the escutheon or the greater arms instead of all coats of arms properties. /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-26T13:42:00.000Z-Ssolbergj-2013-02-26T00:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Do you know if it is currently possible to have qualifiers for each image within the "coat of arms" property, that are to be selected from a set of common types/variants (lesser, greater, escutcheon, before marriage etc.)? The potential usefulness of such an arrangement would of course also depend on whether (as you mentioned) it's possible to query each of them. It would also be a bonus if a link to the wikipedia article of the property as a whole (such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_the_Netherlands" class="extiw" title="en:Coat of arms of the Netherlands">Coat of arms of the Netherlands</a>) could be added, and each of the images made space for the blazon to be typed. Unfortunately I'm not yet fluent in wikidata jargon. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ssolbergj-2013-02-27T00:07:00.000Z-Ch1902-2013-02-26T13:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Qualifiers aren't currently implemented, we're waiting patiently for them for many existing properties, but that doesn't stop us from using the properties multiple times now, just have to go back and qualify them later. The most I could find on their use was at Meta, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Statements" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikidata/Notes/Data model primer">Data model primer#Statements and following sections</a>. I have read somewhere that qualifiers can be used in queries, but I'll be damned if I can find it right now. The notes on meta do mention Ranks too, so the escutcheon version of a CoA property could be set as the "Preferred Statement" so that it would still be returned for queries first. As for using a qualifier to link to an article, I don't know, I think we'd have to see how qualifiers get implemented first. /<a href="/wiki/User:Ch1902" title="User:Ch1902">Ch1902</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ch1902" title="User talk:Ch1902">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ch1902-2013-02-28T11:21:00.000Z-Ssolbergj-2013-02-27T00:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Thanks for the answer! - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-01T22:14:00.000Z-Ch1902-2013-02-28T11:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support The infoboxes of countries, regions and cities etc. need links to the description articles of their respective arms. I.e. similar to the "Flag description" property. Description: Wikipedia article describing subject's coat of arms - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-01T22:14:00.000Z-Coat_of_arms_description_/_/_Description_des_armoiries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done -- <a href="/wiki/Property:P237" title="Property:P237">Property:P237</a> -- with three supports including nominator, no dissent, and with "flag description" precedent. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-07T01:59:00.000Z-Ssolbergj-2013-03-01T22:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="locator_map_image" data-mw-thread-id="h-locator_map_image-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-02-25T20:02:00.000Z">locator map image</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P242" title="Property:P242">Property:P242</a> <ul><li>Description: Map showing the location of the entity</li> <li>Datatype: Commons media</li> <li>Source:</li> <li>Domain: Geographical feature</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Continent" class="extiw" title="en:template:Continent">en:template:Continent</a>: image. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Country" class="extiw" title="en:template:Country">en:template:Country</a> image_map. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Settlement" class="extiw" title="en:template:Settlement">en:template:Settlement</a> image_map</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T20:02:00.000Z-locator_map_image" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. I expect data reusers of Wikidata would rather get the coordinates here and then use map services for flexibility, but this is still useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-02-26T20:15:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T20:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done created as <a href="/wiki/Property:P242" title="Property:P242">Property:P242</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-07T16:09:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T20:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Lakes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lakes-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-03-06T22:39:00.000Z">Lakes</h3></div> <dl><dt><code>lake_sections</code></dt> <dd>sections and sub-basins of the lake.</dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P224&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P224 (page does not exist)">Property:P224</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"> Docu </a> at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Docu-2013-03-06T22:39:00.000Z-Lakes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dt><code>frozen</code></dt> <dd>Information about lake freezing: e.g. usual freezing date, months the lake is frozen, last years the lake was frozen, never, etc.</dd></dl> <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P222&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P222 (page does not exist)">Property:P222</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"> Docu </a> at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Docu-2013-03-06T22:39:00.000Z-Lakes-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Should these be multi-lingual or monolingual? <a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Mange01-2013-03-07T02:22:00.000Z-Docu-2013-03-06T22:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:22, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> From <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_lake#Parameters" class="extiw" title="w:Template:Infobox lake">w:Template:Infobox_lake#Parameters</a>: <dl><dt><code>lake group</code></dt> <dd>group the lakes is part of</dd></dl> <ul><li><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P265&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P265 (page does not exist)">Property:P265</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"> Docu </a> at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Docu-2013-03-10T07:28:00.000Z-Lakes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:28, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Airports" data-mw-thread-id="h-Airports-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z">Airports</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Airport_codes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Airport_codes-Airports-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z">Airport codes</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P238" title="Property:P238">Property:P238</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P239" title="Property:P239">Property:P239</a> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P240" title="Property:P240">Property:P240</a> <ul><li>Description: International unique codes identifying airports, air strips and airfields.</li> <li>Datatype: text string, eg. LAX, XNA (IATA), KLAX, KXNA (ICAO)</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Comments: We need properties for airport codes: IATA, ICAO, and maybe FAA?. These should be easy to fill in, though I've noticed some conflicting information across Wikipedias with very small airfields. I think these should each be separate properties: one for IATA codes, one for ICAO codes. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Phoebe" title="User:Phoebe">Phoebe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phoebe" title="User talk:Phoebe">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Phoebe-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z-Airport_codes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support and yes, a property for each type of code. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T01:45:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support one property per type of code --<a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Faux-2013-02-26T19:59:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support separate IATA and ICAO properties <a href="/wiki/User:Harryboyles" title="User:Harryboyles">Harryboyles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harryboyles" title="User talk:Harryboyles">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Harryboyles-2013-03-02T06:02:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>note I just noted these are already listed as approved but are on the 'pending' page, awaiting the stringvalue datatype. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Phoebe" title="User:Phoebe">Phoebe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phoebe" title="User talk:Phoebe">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Phoebe-2013-03-02T07:09:00.000Z-Harryboyles-2013-03-02T06:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>The ones on the pending page refer to 'airline' codes, not 'airport' codes. <a href="/wiki/User:Harryboyles" title="User:Harryboyles">Harryboyles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harryboyles" title="User talk:Harryboyles">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Harryboyles-2013-03-02T09:33:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-03-02T07:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P238" title="Property:P238">Property:P238</a> (IATA), <a href="/wiki/Property:P239" title="Property:P239">Property:P239</a> (ICAO), <a href="/wiki/Property:P240" title="Property:P240">Property:P240</a> (FAA) <a href="/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sven Manguard">Sven Manguard</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sven Manguard">Wha?</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sven_Manguard-2013-03-07T04:58:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-24T20:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Train_Station_/_/" data-mw-thread-id="h-Train_Station_/_/-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-02-07T21:16:00.000Z">Train Station / /</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="next_station" data-mw-thread-id="h-next_station-Train_Station_/_/-2013-02-07T21:16:00.000Z">next station</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P197" title="Property:P197">Property:P197</a> <ul><li>Description: next station</li> <li>Datatype: item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Comments: <a href="/wiki/User:%EB%B6%84%EB%8B%B9%EC%84%A0M" class="mw-redirect" title="User:분당선M">DangSunM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%EB%B6%84%EB%8B%B9%EC%84%A0M" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:분당선M">T</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/%EB%B6%84%EB%8B%B9%EC%84%A0M" title="Special:Contributions/분당선M">C</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-분당선M-2013-02-07T21:16:00.000Z-next_station" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 7 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Sakoppi" title="User:Sakoppi">Sakoppi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sakoppi" title="User talk:Sakoppi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sakoppi-2013-02-24T06:26:00.000Z-분당선M-2013-02-07T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:26, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>I guess it is done with Property:P197 --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-06T12:32:00.000Z-분당선M-2013-02-07T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Station_code" data-mw-thread-id="h-Station_code-Train_Station_/_/-2013-02-09T10:10:00.000Z">Station code</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P296" title="Property:P296">Property:P296</a> <ul><li>Description: code of the station</li> <li>Datatype: number/string</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Comments:--<a href="/wiki/User:Ahonc" title="User:Ahonc">Ahonc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahonc" title="User talk:Ahonc">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ahonc-2013-02-09T10:10:00.000Z-Station_code" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Sakoppi" title="User:Sakoppi">Sakoppi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sakoppi" title="User talk:Sakoppi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Sakoppi-2013-02-24T06:26:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-02-09T10:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:26, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Comment Is the description correct? <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-02-25T01:50:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-02-09T10:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Fixed and <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Stryn-2013-02-25T10:25:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-25T01:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P296" title="Property:P296">Property:P296</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-17T21:38:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-02-09T10:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 17 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Rivers_/_Flüsse_/_rivières" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rivers_/_Flüsse_/_rivières-Place_/_Geografikum_/_Lieu-2013-03-06T15:36:00.000Z">Rivers / Flüsse / rivières</h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Russia_State_water_register_code_of_water_object_/_Код_водного_объекта" data-mw-thread-id="h-Russia_State_water_register_code_of_water_object_/_Код_водного_объ-Rivers_/_Flüsse_/_rivières-2013-03-07T16:46:00.000Z">Russia State water register code of water object / Код водного объекта</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: Russia State Water Register code of water object</li> <li>Datatype: string</li> <li>Allowed values: numbers</li> <li>Link: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:State_Water_Register" class="extiw" title="w:en:State Water Register">w:en:State Water Register</a></li> <li>Use case: Cross-checking Wikidata data with the Russian State Water Register.</li></ul> For an example code, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://textual.ru/gvr/index.php?card=174254&bo=0&rb=0&subb=0&hep=0&wot=0&name=%C2%EE%EB%E3%E0&loc=">http://textual.ru/gvr/index.php?card=174254&bo=0&rb=0&subb=0&hep=0&wot=0&name=%C2%EE%EB%E3%E0&loc=</a> (after "Код водного объекта"). <a href="/wiki/User:Nikola_Smolenski" title="User:Nikola Smolenski">Nikola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikola_Smolenski" title="User talk:Nikola Smolenski">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Nikola_Smolenski-2013-03-07T16:46:00.000Z-Russia_State_water_register_code_of_water_object_/_Код_водного_объ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Agreeing. And there is a batch of similar registers, e.g. in AT, BE, CH, CZ, DE, FI, FR (SANDRE), NO (REGINE), LU, US, perhaps others --<a href="/wiki/User:Matthiasb" title="User:Matthiasb">Matthiasb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matthiasb" title="User talk:Matthiasb">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Matthiasb-2013-03-08T10:58:00.000Z-Nikola_Smolenski-2013-03-07T16:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <ul><li><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/15px-BA_candidate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/23px-BA_candidate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/BA_candidate.svg/30px-BA_candidate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="190" data-file-height="200"/> Weak oppose. The way I see it, a water object can either be located in Russia or on the border with some other country. If it's completely in Russia, a more generic "code" property would probably suffice. If it's on the border, one can still use a more generic property with multiple values.—<a href="/wiki/User:Ezhiki" title="User:Ezhiki">Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky)</a> • (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ezhiki" title="User talk:Ezhiki">yo?</a>); March 8, 2013; 19:31 (UTC)</li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Oppose. This water register is so bad. The registry contains a lot of mistakes. See this collection mistakes: <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8/%D0%93%D0%92%D0%A0" class="extiw" title="ru:Проект:Реки России/ГВР">ru:Проект:Реки России/ГВР</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B9&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Мастер теней (page does not exist)">Мастер теней</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B9" title="User talk:Мастер теней">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Мастер_теней-2013-03-09T14:17:00.000Z-Nikola_Smolenski-2013-03-07T16:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="crosses_/_traverse" data-mw-thread-id="h-crosses_/_traverse-Rivers_/_Flüsse_/_rivières-2013-03-06T15:36:00.000Z">crosses / traverse</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: name of the river crossed by a bridge / nom du fleuve traversé par un pont</li> <li>Datatype: item / élément</li> <li>Domain: subject is a bridge, object is a river / le sujet est un pont, l'objet est un fleuve</li> <li>Allowed values</li> <li>Infobox parameter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_bridge" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox bridge">en:Template:Infobox_bridge</a>: Crosses</li> <li>Source:</li> <li>Consistency check: if another property is created to list the bridges that cross a river / si un jour une propriété liste les ponts qui traversent une rivière</li> <li>Comments: would it be really useful to create its reverse property ? / Y aurait-il une réel intérêt à avoir la propriété réciproque ?</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-06T15:36:00.000Z-crosses_/_traverse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>Already there, <a href="/wiki/Property:P177" title="Property:P177">Property:P177</a> ;). I dont think the reverse propert would be very useful, and some lists would be rather lengthy. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T16:59:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-06T15:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>You're right, already there!</dd> <dd>Comment ai-je pu la rater ? Un accès facilité aux propriétés et la structuration de tout ça ne deviendra-t-il pas important dans un avenir proche ?</dd> <dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Gloumouth1" title="User:Gloumouth1">Gloumouth1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gloumouth1" title="User talk:Gloumouth1">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Gloumouth1-2013-03-06T20:37:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-06T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>On pourrait retravailler <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties" title="Wikidata:List of properties">WD:List of properties</a>, mais je n'ai pas trop d'autres idées (et plus tard, on devrait aussi pouvoir traduire cette page automatiquement. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T21:07:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-06T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Unsorted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unsorted-2013-02-28T09:36:00.000Z">Unsorted</h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Current_location" data-mw-thread-id="h-Current_location-Unsorted-2013-02-28T09:36:00.000Z">Current location</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P276" title="Property:P276">Property:P276</a> <ul><li>Description: place where the object is currently located, for instance a museum or a private collection</li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Links:</li> <li>Domain: Creative work</li> <li>Comments:</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>often, but by no means always the same as the owner.</li> <li>Also used on Commons. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-02-28T09:36:00.000Z-Current_location" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-04T15:20:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-28T09:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd>Support as "[museum] collection". That is the standard term. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:05:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-28T09:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <s>done</s> (Do not archive as of March 5) I've gone ahead and created this rather obvious property at <a href="/wiki/Property:P195" title="Property:P195">Property:P195</a>. Please do improve the name and description if needed, but the property's concept is clear. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:21:00.000Z-Current_location" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 4 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Thanks. Actually the concept is not totally clear to me :p. It seems to make sense, as an object can be part of a museum's collection even when it is on deposit on or temporary exhibition somewhere else. For instance many artworks that are officially part of the Louvre's collection have been on dipslay in another French State museum for decades. Are they part of the Louvre or of the other museum's collection. Note that the Louvre is not the owner, the French State is. It might still make sense to have a location property in addition to this one. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-05T10:37:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:37, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Example here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/copley-the-death-of-major-peirson-6-january-1781-n00733">The Death of Major Peirson, 6 January 1781</a>. Collection: Tate. On loan to Jersey Museum and Art Gallery. This suggests another property "on loan to" which could apply to other things. But, we still need a property for the actual location, which would also apply to many things, the "locale". At present we can only say located in admin unit. We need something more specific. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Danrok-2013-03-05T16:20:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-05T10:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>OK Zolo, I will remove the "done" mark from this item so it doesn't get archived. Does "on loan to" resolve your concerns? Or should there be a property for locations that has a more broad use, like Danrok suggests? Surely there is a need for it, but the moment it gets created people will start using it in place of "located in administrative division..." or whatever it is called now. :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-06T03:21:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd>Location would still be needed for cases like "the Luxor Obelisque is on the Place de la Concorde". I do not see any property name that would ensure it is not used in place of "located in administrative division". The best solution to avoid the confusion might be to have bots fill as as many <a href="/wiki/Property:P131" title="Property:P131">P:P131</a> as possible, as quickly as possible :|. Perhaps "current object location" ("object" to discourage its use for places and "current" to make it sure it is not used for place of production or of discovery). --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-06T09:35:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-03-06T03:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ OK (lol). <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support "current location" as relevant to museum objects that move, or objects that are not in a "collection" per se (e.g. objects in churches); or a few other use cases that are not obvious to me right now. However, using "current location" for permanent museum collections is not idiomatic and I hope we can avoid that. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Espeso-2013-03-07T03:29:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/Property:P276" title="Property:P276">P:P276</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Zolo-2013-03-12T18:25:00.000Z-Espeso-2013-03-04T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Domain_(EN)_/_Dominio_(IT)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Domain_(EN)_/_Dominio_(IT)-Unsorted-2013-03-05T21:32:00.000Z">Domain (EN) / Dominio (IT)</h4></div> <ul><li>Description: The taxonomical domain, as defined by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_(biology)" class="extiw" title="en:Domain (biology)">en:Domain (biology)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q146481" title="Q146481">this element</a>); superior to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P75&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P75 (page does not exist)">kingdom</a>.</li> <li>Datatype: Item (only <a href="/wiki/Q19088" title="Q19088">Eukaryota</a> and few others)</li> <li>Source: from "Taxoboxes" in all wikipedias</li> <li>Domain: Species, Families, Orders, Classes, but expecially Kingdoms</li> <li>Infobox parameter: a "domain" parameter in a "Taxobox" template</li> <li>Consistency check: not supposed, I think</li> <li>Comments: --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-05T21:32:00.000Z-Domain_(EN)_/_Dominio_(IT)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 5 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <ul><li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support Needed for recent classifications like Cavalier-Smith <a href="/wiki/User:Lin%C3%A91" title="User:Liné1">Liné1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lin%C3%A91" title="User talk:Liné1">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Liné1-2013-03-08T08:05:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-05T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li> <li><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support <a href="/wiki/User:Hexasoft" title="User:Hexasoft">Hexasoft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hexasoft" title="User talk:Hexasoft">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Hexasoft-2013-03-08T08:51:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-05T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>2 supports: <img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P273&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P273 (page does not exist)">Property:P273</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-11T23:42:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-05T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Programming_language_/_Programmiersprache_/_Langage_de_programmation_/_Linguaggio_di_programmazione" data-mw-thread-id="h-Programming_language_/_Programmiersprache_/_Langage_de_programmation_/_Linguaggi-Unsorted-2013-03-11T21:55:00.000Z">Programming language / Programmiersprache / Langage de programmation / Linguaggio di programmazione</h4></div> <div>Status: Done</div> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P277" title="Property:P277">Property:P277</a> <ul><li>Description: the programming language(s) in which a software is developed</li> <li>Infobox parameter: various <a href="/wiki/Q5621231" title="Q5621231">Template:Software</a></li> <li>Datatype: Item</li> <li>Domain: Creative work (Software)</li> <li>Allowed values: for example <a href="/wiki/Q2370" title="Q2370">C#</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q42478" title="Q42478">Perl</a>, and all other items that are <a href="/wiki/Q9143" title="Q9143">programming languages</a></li> <li>Source: various <a href="/wiki/Q5621231" title="Q5621231">Template:Software</a></li> <li>Example item and value: <a href="/wiki/Q1775686" title="Q1775686">Stockfish</a><Programming language>=<a href="/wiki/Q2407" title="Q2407">C++</a></li> <li>Robot and gadget jobs: maybe later</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I think it's very important to have this property, so if nobody oppones, I'll create it soon. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-11T21:55:00.000Z-Programming_language_/_Programmiersprache_/_Langage_de_programmation_/_Linguaggi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T15:53:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-11T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a></dd> <dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> Support usefull information <a href="/wiki/User:Amphicoelias" title="User:Amphicoelias">Amphicoelias</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amphicoelias" title="User talk:Amphicoelias">Talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/3#c-Amphicoelias-2013-03-12T17:04:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-03-11T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <dl><dd><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done as <a href="/wiki/Property:P277" title="Property:P277">Property:P277</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa">Ricordi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa">samoa</a> <a 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