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searchaux" style="display:none">Small interval between musical notes</div> <div class="thumb tright" style=""><div class="thumbinner" style="width:222px"><div class="thumbimage noresize" style="width:220px;"> Pythagorean comma (531441:524288) on C</div><div class="thumbcaption"><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><div class="mw-ext-score noresize" data-midi="//upload.wikimedia.org/score/c/j/cjw3ordqpvmxgv1zwe90sgwpua3vxtj/cjw3ordq.midi"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/score/c/j/cjw3ordqpvmxgv1zwe90sgwpua3vxtj/cjw3ordq.png" width="172" height="92" alt="{ \magnifyStaff #3/2 \omit Score.TimeSignature \relative c' <c! \tweak Accidental.stencil #ly:text-interface::print \tweak Accidental.text \markup { \concat { \lower #1 "+++" \sharp}} bis>1 }" /></div></div>Pythagorean comma on C using <a href="/wiki/Ben_Johnston_notation" class="mw-redirect" title="Ben Johnston notation">Ben Johnston's notation</a>. The note depicted as lower on the staff (B<a href="/wiki/Semitone#Just_intonation" title="Semitone"><span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span></a><a href="/wiki/Syntonic_comma" title="Syntonic comma">+++</a>) is slightly higher in pitch (than C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-natural">♮</span></span>).<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><span><audio id="mwe_player_0" controls="" preload="none" data-mw-tmh="" class="mw-file-element" width="220" style="width:220px;" data-mwtitle="Pythagorean_comma_on_C.mid" data-mwprovider="wikimediacommons"><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Pythagorean_comma_on_C.mid" type="audio/midi" data-width="0" data-height="0" /><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/a/a8/Pythagorean_comma_on_C.mid/Pythagorean_comma_on_C.mid.ogg" type="audio/ogg; codecs="vorbis"" data-transcodekey="ogg" data-width="0" data-height="0" /><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/a/a8/Pythagorean_comma_on_C.mid/Pythagorean_comma_on_C.mid.mp3" type="audio/mpeg" data-transcodekey="mp3" data-width="0" data-height="0" /></audio></span></span></div></div></div> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Pythagorean_comma_(difference_A1-m2).PNG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Pythagorean_comma_%28difference_A1-m2%29.PNG/450px-Pythagorean_comma_%28difference_A1-m2%29.PNG" decoding="async" width="450" height="79" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Pythagorean_comma_%28difference_A1-m2%29.PNG/675px-Pythagorean_comma_%28difference_A1-m2%29.PNG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Pythagorean_comma_%28difference_A1-m2%29.PNG/900px-Pythagorean_comma_%28difference_A1-m2%29.PNG 2x" data-file-width="984" data-file-height="173" /></a><figcaption>Pythagorean comma (<b>PC</b>) defined in <a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning" title="Pythagorean tuning">Pythagorean tuning</a> as difference between semitones (A1 – m2), or interval between <a href="/wiki/Enharmonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Enharmonic">enharmonically equivalent</a> notes (from D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> to C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span>). The <a href="/wiki/Diminished_second" title="Diminished second">diminished second</a> has the same width but an opposite direction (from to C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> to D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span>).</figcaption></figure> <p>In <a href="/wiki/Musical_tuning" title="Musical tuning">musical tuning</a>, the <b>Pythagorean comma</b> (or <b>ditonic comma</b><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>a<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>), named after the ancient mathematician and philosopher <a href="/wiki/Pythagoras" title="Pythagoras">Pythagoras</a>, is the small <a href="/wiki/Interval_(music)" title="Interval (music)">interval</a> (or <a href="/wiki/Comma_(music)" title="Comma (music)">comma</a>) existing in <a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning" title="Pythagorean tuning">Pythagorean tuning</a> between two <a href="/wiki/Enharmonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Enharmonic">enharmonically equivalent</a> notes such as C and B<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span>, or D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> and C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span>.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> It is equal to the <a href="/wiki/Interval_ratio" title="Interval ratio">frequency ratio</a> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1154941027">.mw-parser-output .frac{white-space:nowrap}.mw-parser-output .frac .num,.mw-parser-output .frac .den{font-size:80%;line-height:0;vertical-align:super}.mw-parser-output .frac .den{vertical-align:sub}.mw-parser-output .sr-only{border:0;clip:rect(0,0,0,0);clip-path:polygon(0px 0px,0px 0px,0px 0px);height:1px;margin:-1px;overflow:hidden;padding:0;position:absolute;width:1px}</style><span class="frac"><span class="num">(1.5)<sup>12</sup></span>⁄<span class="den">2<sup>7</sup></span></span> = <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1154941027"><span class="frac"><span class="num">531441</span>⁄<span class="den">524288</span></span> <a href="/wiki/%E2%89%88" class="mw-redirect" title="≈">≈</a> 1.01364, or about 23.46 <a href="/wiki/Cent_(music)" title="Cent (music)">cents</a>, roughly a quarter of a <a href="/wiki/Semitone" title="Semitone">semitone</a> (in between 75:74 and 74:73<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>). The comma that <a href="/wiki/Musical_temperament" title="Musical temperament">musical temperaments</a> often "temper" is the Pythagorean comma.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>The Pythagorean comma can be also defined as the difference between a <a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_apotome" class="mw-redirect" title="Pythagorean apotome">Pythagorean apotome</a> and a <a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_limma" class="mw-redirect" title="Pythagorean limma">Pythagorean limma</a><sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> (i.e., between a chromatic and a diatonic <a href="/wiki/Semitone" title="Semitone">semitone</a>, as determined in Pythagorean tuning); the difference between 12 <a href="/wiki/Just_intonation" title="Just intonation">just</a> <a href="/wiki/Perfect_fifth" title="Perfect fifth">perfect fifths</a> and seven <a href="/wiki/Octave" title="Octave">octaves</a>; or the difference between three Pythagorean <a href="/wiki/Ditone" title="Ditone">ditones</a> and one octave. (This is why the Pythagorean comma is also called a <i>ditonic comma</i>.) </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Diminished_second" title="Diminished second">diminished second</a>, in Pythagorean tuning, is defined as the difference between limma and apotome. It coincides, therefore, with the opposite of a Pythagorean comma, and can be viewed as a <i>descending</i> Pythagorean comma (e.g. from C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> to D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span>), equal to about −23.46 cents. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Derivation">Derivation</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pythagorean_comma&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Derivation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>As described in the introduction, the Pythagorean comma may be derived in multiple ways: </p> <ul><li>Difference between two <a href="/wiki/Enharmonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Enharmonic">enharmonically equivalent</a> notes in a Pythagorean scale, such as C and B<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span>, or D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> and C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> (see <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#Circle_of_fifths_and_enharmonic_change">below</a>).</li> <li>Difference between <a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_apotome" class="mw-redirect" title="Pythagorean apotome">Pythagorean apotome</a> and <a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_limma" class="mw-redirect" title="Pythagorean limma">Pythagorean limma</a>.</li> <li>Difference between 12 just <a href="/wiki/Perfect_fifth" title="Perfect fifth">perfect fifths</a> and seven <a href="/wiki/Perfect_octave" class="mw-redirect" title="Perfect octave">octaves</a>.</li> <li>Difference between three Pythagorean <a href="/wiki/Ditone" title="Ditone">ditones</a> (<a href="/wiki/Major_third" title="Major third">major thirds</a>) and one octave.</li></ul> <p>A just perfect fifth has a <a href="/wiki/Interval_ratio" title="Interval ratio">frequency ratio</a> of 3:2. It is used in Pythagorean tuning, together with the octave, as a yardstick to define, with respect to a given initial note, the frequency of any other note. </p><p>Apotome and limma are the two kinds of <a href="/wiki/Semitone" title="Semitone">semitones</a> defined in Pythagorean tuning. Namely, the apotome (about 113.69 cents, e.g. from C to C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span>) is the chromatic semitone, or augmented unison (A1), while the limma (about 90.23 cents, e.g. from C to D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span>) is the diatonic semitone, or minor second (m2). </p><p>A ditone (or <a href="/wiki/Major_third" title="Major third">major third</a>) is an interval formed by two <a href="/wiki/Major_tone" class="mw-redirect" title="Major tone">major tones</a>. In Pythagorean tuning, a major tone has a size of about 203.9 cents (frequency ratio 9:8), thus a Pythagorean ditone is about 407.8 cents. </p> <table style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; border: none;"> <tbody><tr style="vertical-align: top;"> <td><div class="thumb tnone" style="margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;overflow:hidden;width:500px;max-width:1608px"><div class="thumbinner"><div class="noresize" style="overflow:auto"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octaves_versus_fifths_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Octaves (7 × 1200 = 8400) versus fifths (12 × 701.96 = 8423.52), depicted as with Cuisenaire rods (red (2) is used for 1200, black (7) is used for 701.96)."><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Octaves_versus_fifths_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png/1600px-Octaves_versus_fifths_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png" decoding="async" width="1600" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Octaves_versus_fifths_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png 1.5x" data-file-width="2024" data-file-height="50" /></a></span></div><div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="/wiki/File:Octaves_versus_fifths_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png" title="File:Octaves versus fifths Cuisenaire rods Pythagorean.png"> </a></div>Octaves (7 × 1200 = 8400) versus fifths (12 × 701.96 = 8423.52), depicted as with <a href="/wiki/Cuisenaire_rods" title="Cuisenaire rods">Cuisenaire rods</a> (red (2) is used for 1200, black (7) is used for 701.96).</div></div></div> </td> <td><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png/220px-Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="37" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png/330px-Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png/440px-Octaves_versus_major_thirds_Cuisenaire_rods_Pythagorean.png 2x" data-file-width="590" data-file-height="99" /></a><figcaption>Octaves (1 × 1200 = 1200) versus ditones (3 × 407.82 = 1223.46), depicted as with Cuisenaire rods (red (2) is used for 1200, magenta (4) is used for 407.82).</figcaption></figure> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Size">Size</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pythagorean_comma&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Size"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg/300px-Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="300" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg/450px-Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg/600px-Pythagorean_tuning_geometric.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512" /></a><figcaption>The Pythagorean comma shown as the gap (on the right side) which causes a 12-pointed star to fail to close, which star represents the Pythagorean scale; each line representing a just perfect fifth. That gap has a central angle of 7.038 degrees, which is 23.46% of 30 degrees.</figcaption></figure> <p>The size of a Pythagorean comma, measured in <a href="/wiki/Cent_(music)" title="Cent (music)">cents</a>, is </p> <dl><dd><span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle {\hbox{apotome}}-{\hbox{limma}}\approx 113.69-90.23\approx 23.46~{\hbox{cents}}\!}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>apotome</mtext> </mstyle> </mrow> <mo>−<!-- − --></mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>limma</mtext> </mstyle> </mrow> <mo>≈<!-- ≈ --></mo> <mn>113.69</mn> <mo>−<!-- − --></mo> <mn>90.23</mn> <mo>≈<!-- ≈ --></mo> <mn>23.46</mn> <mtext> </mtext> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>cents</mtext> </mstyle> </mrow> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace" /> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle {\hbox{apotome}}-{\hbox{limma}}\approx 113.69-90.23\approx 23.46~{\hbox{cents}}\!}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/b1c3cdb7d9f71b52fc08dbd9293e67a11ca45af3" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -0.671ex; margin-right: -0.306ex; width:49.588ex; height:2.509ex;" alt="{\displaystyle {\hbox{apotome}}-{\hbox{limma}}\approx 113.69-90.23\approx 23.46~{\hbox{cents}}\!}"></span></dd></dl> <p>or more exactly, in terms of <a href="/wiki/Interval_ratio" title="Interval ratio">frequency ratios</a>: </p> <dl><dd><span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle {\frac {\hbox{apotome}}{\hbox{limma}}}={\frac {3^{7}/2^{11}}{2^{8}/3^{5}}}={\frac {3^{12}}{2^{19}}}={\frac {531441}{524288}}=1.0136432647705078125\!}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>apotome</mtext> </mstyle> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>limma</mtext> </mstyle> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mrow> <msup> <mn>3</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>7</mn> </mrow> </msup> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mo>/</mo> </mrow> <msup> <mn>2</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>11</mn> </mrow> </msup> </mrow> <mrow> <msup> <mn>2</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>8</mn> </mrow> </msup> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mo>/</mo> </mrow> <msup> <mn>3</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>5</mn> </mrow> </msup> </mrow> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <msup> <mn>3</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>12</mn> </mrow> </msup> <msup> <mn>2</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>19</mn> </mrow> </msup> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mn>531441</mn> <mn>524288</mn> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <mn>1.0136432647705078125</mn> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace" /> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle {\frac {\hbox{apotome}}{\hbox{limma}}}={\frac {3^{7}/2^{11}}{2^{8}/3^{5}}}={\frac {3^{12}}{2^{19}}}={\frac {531441}{524288}}=1.0136432647705078125\!}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/ad3cafb6ff259022b4b9051b1c5214fc62db4080" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -2.838ex; margin-right: -0.269ex; width:64.6ex; height:6.843ex;" alt="{\displaystyle {\frac {\hbox{apotome}}{\hbox{limma}}}={\frac {3^{7}/2^{11}}{2^{8}/3^{5}}}={\frac {3^{12}}{2^{19}}}={\frac {531441}{524288}}=1.0136432647705078125\!}"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Circle_of_fifths_and_enharmonic_change">Circle of fifths and enharmonic change</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pythagorean_comma&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Circle of fifths and enharmonic change"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="thumb tright" style=""><div class="thumbinner" style="width:252px"><div class="thumbimage noresize" style="width:250px;"> <div class="mw-ext-score noresize"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/score/t/p/tp9hat33n7krhxrxm63oeofr0oghjil/tp9hat33.png" width="241" height="294" alt="p = \markup { \lower #1 "+" } pps = \markup { \concat { \lower #1 "++" \sharp }} ppps = \markup { \concat { \lower #1 "+++" \sharp }} \new PianoStaff \with { \override Accidental.stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.basic-distance = #15 \omit TimeSignature } << \new Staff \with{ \magnifyStaff #3/2 } {\relative c' \tweak AccidentalPlacement.positioning-done ##f <\tweak Accidental.text \pps \tweak Accidental.X-offset #-10.75 fis \tweak Accidental.text \pps \tweak Accidental.X-offset #-6 cis' \tweak Accidental.text \pps \tweak Accidental.X-offset #-10.75 gis' \tweak Accidental.text \pps \tweak Accidental.X-offset #-6 dis' \tweak Accidental.text \ppps \tweak Accidental.X-offset #-14.75 ais' \tweak Accidental.text \ppps \tweak Accidental.X-offset #-8 eis'>1 } \new Staff \with{ \magnifyStaff #3/2 } {\relative c,, {\clef bass <c g' d' \tweak Accidental.text \p ais' \tweak Accidental.text \p eis' \tweak Accidental.text \p bis'>1 } } >> \paper {tagline=##f} " /></div></div><div class="thumbcaption">Pythagorean comma as twelve justly tuned perfect fifths in Ben Johnston notation<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><span><audio id="mwe_player_1" controls="" preload="none" data-mw-tmh="" class="mw-file-element" width="220" style="width:220px;" data-durationhint="7" data-mwtitle="Just_perfect_fifth_on_C.mid" data-mwprovider="wikimediacommons"><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Just_perfect_fifth_on_C.mid" type="audio/midi" data-width="0" data-height="0" /><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/5/5c/Just_perfect_fifth_on_C.mid/Just_perfect_fifth_on_C.mid.ogg" type="audio/ogg; codecs="vorbis"" data-transcodekey="ogg" data-width="0" data-height="0" /><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/5/5c/Just_perfect_fifth_on_C.mid/Just_perfect_fifth_on_C.mid.mp3" type="audio/mpeg" data-transcodekey="mp3" data-width="0" data-height="0" /></audio></span></span></div></div></div> <p>The Pythagorean comma can also be thought of as the discrepancy between 12 <a href="/wiki/Just_intonation" title="Just intonation">justly tuned</a> <a href="/wiki/Perfect_fifth" title="Perfect fifth">perfect fifths</a> (ratio 3:2) and seven octaves (ratio 2:1): </p> <dl><dd><span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle {\frac {\hbox{twelve fifths}}{\hbox{seven octaves}}}=\left({\tfrac {3}{2}}\right)^{12}\!\!{\Big /}\,2^{7}={\frac {3^{12}}{2^{19}}}={\frac {531441}{524288}}=1.0136432647705078125\!}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>twelve fifths</mtext> </mstyle> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mtext>seven octaves</mtext> </mstyle> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <msup> <mrow> <mo>(</mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mfrac> <mn>3</mn> <mn>2</mn> </mfrac> </mstyle> </mrow> <mo>)</mo> </mrow> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>12</mn> </mrow> </msup> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace" /> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace" /> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mo fence="true" stretchy="true" symmetric="true" maxsize="1.623em" minsize="1.623em">/</mo> </mrow> </mrow> <mspace width="thinmathspace" /> <msup> <mn>2</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>7</mn> </mrow> </msup> <mo>=</mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <msup> <mn>3</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>12</mn> </mrow> </msup> <msup> <mn>2</mn> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>19</mn> </mrow> </msup> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mn>531441</mn> <mn>524288</mn> </mfrac> </mrow> <mo>=</mo> <mn>1.0136432647705078125</mn> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace" /> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle {\frac {\hbox{twelve fifths}}{\hbox{seven octaves}}}=\left({\tfrac {3}{2}}\right)^{12}\!\!{\Big /}\,2^{7}={\frac {3^{12}}{2^{19}}}={\frac {531441}{524288}}=1.0136432647705078125\!}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/1c38dd329c7c6197600b37a8905c7780b82cd778" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -2.338ex; margin-right: -0.269ex; width:72.237ex; height:6.176ex;" alt="{\displaystyle {\frac {\hbox{twelve fifths}}{\hbox{seven octaves}}}=\left({\tfrac {3}{2}}\right)^{12}\!\!{\Big /}\,2^{7}={\frac {3^{12}}{2^{19}}}={\frac {531441}{524288}}=1.0136432647705078125\!}"></span></dd></dl> <table> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"> <table class="wikitable"> <caption>Ascending by perfect fifths </caption> <tbody><tr> <th>Note </th> <th><a href="/wiki/Perfect_fifth" title="Perfect fifth">Fifth</a> </th> <th>Frequency ratio </th> <th>Decimal ratio </th></tr> <tr> <th>C </th> <td align="center">0</td> <td align="center">1 <b>:</b> 1</td> <td align="center">  1 </td></tr> <tr> <th>G </th> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="center">3 <b>:</b> 2</td> <td align="center">  1.5 </td></tr> <tr> <th>D </th> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="center">9 <b>:</b> 4</td> <td align="center">  2.25 </td></tr> <tr> <th>A </th> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">27 <b>:</b> 8</td> <td align="center">  3.375 </td></tr> <tr> <th>E </th> <td align="center">4</td> <td align="center">81 <b>:</b> 16</td> <td align="center">  5.0625 </td></tr> <tr> <th>B </th> <td align="center">5</td> <td align="center">243 <b>:</b> 32</td> <td align="center">  7.59375 </td></tr> <tr> <th>F<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> </th> <td align="center">6</td> <td align="center">729 <b>:</b> 64</td> <td align="center">  11.390625 </td></tr> <tr> <th>C<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> </th> <td align="center">7</td> <td align="center">2187 <b>:</b> 128</td> <td align="center">  17.0859375 </td></tr> <tr> <th>G<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> </th> <td align="center">8</td> <td align="center">6561 <b>:</b> 256</td> <td align="center">  25.62890625 </td></tr> <tr> <th>D<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> </th> <td align="center">9</td> <td align="center">19683 <b>:</b> 512</td> <td align="center">  38.443359375 </td></tr> <tr> <th>A<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> </th> <td align="center">10</td> <td align="center">59049 <b>:</b> 1024</td> <td align="center">  57.6650390625 </td></tr> <tr> <th>E<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> </th> <td align="center">11</td> <td align="center">177147 <b>:</b> 2048</td> <td align="center">  86.49755859375 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>B<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span></b> (≈ C) </td> <td align="center">12</td> <td align="center">531441 <b>:</b> 4096</td> <td align="center">  129.746337890625 </td></tr></tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top"> <table class="wikitable"> <caption>Ascending by octaves </caption> <tbody><tr> <th>Note </th> <th><a href="/wiki/Octave" title="Octave">Octave</a> </th> <th>Frequency ratio </th></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">0</td> <td align="center">1 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="center">2 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">2</td> <td align="center">4 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">8 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">4</td> <td align="center">16 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">5</td> <td align="center">32 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">6</td> <td align="center">64 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><b>C</b></td> <td align="center">7</td> <td align="center">128 <b>:</b> 1 </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>In the following table of <a href="/wiki/Musical_scale" class="mw-redirect" title="Musical scale">musical scales</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Circle_of_fifths" title="Circle of fifths">circle of fifths</a>, the Pythagorean comma is visible as the small interval between, e.g., F<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> and G<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span>. Going around the circle of fifths with just intervals results in a <a href="/wiki/Comma_pump" title="Comma pump">comma pump</a> by the Pythagorean comma. </p><p>The 6<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> and the 6<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> scales<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>i<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> are not identical—even though they are on the <a href="/wiki/Piano_keyboard" class="mw-redirect" title="Piano keyboard">piano keyboard</a>—but the <span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> scales are one Pythagorean comma lower. Disregarding this difference leads to <a href="/wiki/Enharmonic" class="mw-redirect" title="Enharmonic">enharmonic change</a>. </p><p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Circle_of_fifths_unrolled,_pythagorean_comma.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Circle_of_fifths_unrolled%2C_pythagorean_comma.svg/1000px-Circle_of_fifths_unrolled%2C_pythagorean_comma.svg.png" decoding="async" width="1000" height="565" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Circle_of_fifths_unrolled%2C_pythagorean_comma.svg/1500px-Circle_of_fifths_unrolled%2C_pythagorean_comma.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Circle_of_fifths_unrolled%2C_pythagorean_comma.svg/2000px-Circle_of_fifths_unrolled%2C_pythagorean_comma.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1215" data-file-height="686" /></a></span> </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist reflist-lower-roman"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-7">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">The 7<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> and 5<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span>, respectively 5<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span> and 7<span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-sharp">♯</span></span> scales differ in the same way by one Pythagorean comma. Scales with seven accidentals are seldom used,<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> because the enharmonic scales with five accidentals are treated as equivalent.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p>This interval has serious implications for the various <a href="/wiki/Musical_tuning" title="Musical tuning">tuning</a> schemes of the <a href="/wiki/Chromatic_scale" title="Chromatic scale">chromatic scale</a>, because in Western music, <a href="/wiki/Circle_of_fifths" title="Circle of fifths">12 perfect fifths</a> and seven octaves are treated as the same interval. <a href="/wiki/Equal_temperament" title="Equal temperament">Equal temperament</a>, today the most common tuning system in the West, reconciled this by flattening each fifth by a twelfth of a Pythagorean comma (approximately 2 cents), thus producing perfect octaves. </p><p>Another way to express this is that the just fifth has a frequency ratio (compared to the tonic) of 3:2 or 1.5 to 1, whereas the seventh semitone (based on 12 equal logarithmic divisions of an octave) is the seventh power of the <a href="/wiki/Twelfth_root_of_two" title="Twelfth root of two">twelfth root of two</a> or 1.4983... to 1, which is not quite the same (a difference of about 0.1%). Take the just fifth to the 12th power, then subtract seven octaves, and you get the Pythagorean comma (about a 1.4% difference). </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="History">History</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pythagorean_comma&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: History"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The first to mention the comma's proportion of 531441:524288 was <a href="/wiki/Euclid" title="Euclid">Euclid</a>, who takes as a basis the whole tone of Pythagorean tuning with the ratio of 9:8, the octave with the ratio of 2:1, and a number A = 262144. He concludes that raising this number by six whole tones yields a value, G, that is larger than that yielded by raising it by an octave (two times A). He gives G to be 531441.<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> The necessary calculations read: </p><p>Calculation of G: </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle 262144\cdot \left(\textstyle {\frac {9}{8}}\right)^{6}=531441}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mn>262144</mn> <mo>⋅<!-- ⋅ --></mo> <msup> <mrow> <mo>(</mo> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mn>9</mn> <mn>8</mn> </mfrac> </mrow> </mstyle> <mo>)</mo> </mrow> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>6</mn> </mrow> </msup> <mo>=</mo> <mn>531441</mn> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle 262144\cdot \left(\textstyle {\frac {9}{8}}\right)^{6}=531441}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/9318a2a8707381c1207c288b5d4bc2f995c83a29" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -1.838ex; width:24.215ex; height:5.176ex;" alt="{\displaystyle 262144\cdot \left(\textstyle {\frac {9}{8}}\right)^{6}=531441}"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Calculation of the double of A: </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle 262144\cdot \left(\textstyle {\frac {2}{1}}\right)^{1}=524288}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mn>262144</mn> <mo>⋅<!-- ⋅ --></mo> <msup> <mrow> <mo>(</mo> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mfrac> <mn>2</mn> <mn>1</mn> </mfrac> </mrow> </mstyle> <mo>)</mo> </mrow> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mn>1</mn> </mrow> </msup> <mo>=</mo> <mn>524288</mn> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle 262144\cdot \left(\textstyle {\frac {2}{1}}\right)^{1}=524288}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/c4b5c95e11343a94aa27ee7a7fb61a386bc08327" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -1.171ex; width:23.569ex; height:4.009ex;" alt="{\displaystyle 262144\cdot \left(\textstyle {\frac {2}{1}}\right)^{1}=524288}"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Chinese mathematicians were aware of the Pythagorean comma as early as 122 BC (its calculation is detailed in the <i><a href="/wiki/Huainanzi" title="Huainanzi">Huainanzi</a></i>), and circa 50 BC, <a href="/wiki/Ching_Fang" class="mw-redirect" title="Ching Fang">Ching Fang</a> discovered that if the cycle of perfect fifths were continued beyond 12 all the way to 53, the difference between this 53rd pitch and the starting pitch would be much smaller than the Pythagorean comma. This much smaller interval was later named <a href="/wiki/Mercator%27s_comma" class="mw-redirect" title="Mercator's comma">Mercator's comma</a> (<i>see: <a href="/wiki/53_equal_temperament#History_and_use" title="53 equal temperament">history of 53 equal temperament</a></i>). </p><p>In George Russell's <i><a href="/wiki/Lydian_Chromatic_Concept_of_Tonal_Organization" title="Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization">Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization</a></i> (1953), the half step between the Lydian Tonic and <span class="music-symbol" style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode;"><span class="music-flat">♭</span></span>2 in his Altered Major and Minor Auxiliary Diminished Blues scales is theoretically based on the Pythagorean comma.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-9"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="See_also">See also</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pythagorean_comma&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: See also"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Holdrian_comma" class="mw-redirect" title="Holdrian comma">Holdrian comma</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Schisma" title="Schisma">Schisma</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Notes">Notes</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Pythagorean_comma&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Notes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239543626"><div class="reflist reflist-lower-alpha"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">not to be confused with the diatonic comma, better known as <i><a href="/wiki/Syntonic_comma" title="Syntonic comma">syntonic comma</a></i>, equal to the frequency ratio 81:80, or around 21.51 cents. See: <a href="/wiki/Ben_Johnston_(composer)" title="Ben Johnston (composer)">Johnston, Ben</a> (2006). <i>"Maximum Clarity" and Other Writings on Music</i>, edited by <a href="/wiki/Bob_Gilmore" title="Bob Gilmore">Bob Gilmore</a>. 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"...the difference between the two semitones of the Pythagorean scale..."</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a href="/wiki/Jekuthiel_Ginsburg" title="Jekuthiel Ginsburg">Ginsburg, Jekuthiel</a> (2003). <i><a href="/wiki/Scripta_Mathematica" title="Scripta Mathematica">Scripta Mathematica</a></i>, p. 287. <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-7661-3835-3" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-7661-3835-3">978-0-7661-3835-3</a>.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-4">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a href="/wiki/Richard_Coyne" title="Richard Coyne">Coyne, Richard</a> (2010). <i>The Tuning of Place: Sociable Spaces and Pervasive Digital Media</i>, p. 45. <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-262-01391-8" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-262-01391-8">978-0-262-01391-8</a>.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-5">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">Kottick, Edward L. 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Engl. transl. in: <a href="/wiki/Andrew_Barker_(classicist)" title="Andrew Barker (classicist)">Andrew Barker</a> (ed.): <i>Greek Musical Writings. Vol. 2: Harmonic and Acoustic Theory</i>, Cambridge, Massachusetts: Cambridge University Press, 2004, pp. 190–208, here: p. 199.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-9"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-9">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a href="/wiki/George_Russell_(composer)" title="George Russell (composer)">Russell, George</a> (2001) [1953]. George Russell's <i><a href="/wiki/Lydian_Chromatic_Concept_of_Tonal_Organization" title="Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization">Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization</a></i>. Volume One: The art and science of tonal gravity (Fourth (Second printing, corrected, 2008) ed.). 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title="Augmentation (music)">Augmented</a></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-even" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Augmented_unison" title="Augmented unison">unison</a> (1)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Augmented_second" title="Augmented second">second</a> (3)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Augmented_third" title="Augmented third">third</a> (5)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Tritone" title="Tritone">fourth</a> (6)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Augmented_fifth" title="Augmented fifth">fifth</a> (8)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Augmented_sixth" title="Augmented sixth">sixth</a> (10)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Augmented_seventh" title="Augmented seventh">seventh</a> (12)</li></ul> </div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:6em;font-weight:normal;"><a href="/wiki/Diminution#Diminution_of_intervals" title="Diminution">Diminished</a></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 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(chord)">tenth</a> (15 or 16)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Eleventh" title="Eleventh">eleventh</a> (17 or 18)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fifth_(chord)" title="Fifth (chord)">twelfth</a> (18 or 19)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Thirteenth" title="Thirteenth">thirteenth</a> (20 or 21)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Seventh_(chord)" title="Seventh (chord)">fourteenth</a> (22 or 23)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fifteenth" title="Fifteenth">fifteenth</a> (24)</li></ul> </div></td></tr></tbody></table><div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div></div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:1%">Other<br />tuning<br />systems</th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="width:100%;padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"></div><table class="nowraplinks navbox-subgroup" style="border-spacing:0"><tbody><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:1%;font-weight:normal;"><b><a href="/wiki/24-tone_equal_temperament" class="mw-redirect" title="24-tone equal temperament">24-tone equal temperament</a></b><br /><i>(Numbers in brackets refer<br />to fractional semitones.)</i></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="width:100%;padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"></div><table class="nowraplinks navbox-subgroup" style="border-spacing:0"><tbody><tr><th id="Neutral" scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:5em;font-weight:normal;"><div><br /><a href="/wiki/Neutral_interval" title="Neutral interval">Neutral</a><br /><br /></div></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Quarter_tone" title="Quarter tone">quarter tone</a> (<span class="frac"><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Neutral_interval" title="Neutral interval">second</a> (<span class="frac">1<span class="sr-only">+</span><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Neutral_third" title="Neutral third">third</a> (<span class="frac">3<span class="sr-only">+</span><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Major_fourth_and_minor_fifth" title="Major fourth and minor fifth">major fourth</a> (<span class="frac">5<span class="sr-only">+</span><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Major_fourth_and_minor_fifth" title="Major fourth and minor fifth">minor fifth</a> (<span class="frac">6<span class="sr-only">+</span><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Neutral_sixth" title="Neutral sixth">sixth</a> (<span class="frac">8<span class="sr-only">+</span><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Neutral_interval" title="Neutral interval">seventh</a> (<span class="frac">10<span class="sr-only">+</span><span class="num">1</span>⁄<span class="den">2</span></span>)</li></ul> </div></td></tr></tbody></table><div></div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:1%;font-weight:normal;"><b><a href="/wiki/Just_intonation" title="Just intonation">Just intonations</a></b><br /><i>(Numbers in brackets<br />refer to pitch ratios.)</i></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="width:100%;padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"></div><table class="nowraplinks navbox-subgroup" style="border-spacing:0"><tbody><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:1%;font-weight:normal;"><a href="/wiki/7-limit_tuning" title="7-limit tuning">7-limit</a></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-even" style="width:100%;padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Septimal_quarter_tone" title="Septimal quarter tone">septimal quarter tone</a> (36:35)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Septimal_third_tone" title="Septimal third tone">septimal third tone</a> (28:27)</li> <li><a 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href="/wiki/List_of_intervals_in_5-limit_just_intonation" title="List of intervals in 5-limit just intonation">5-limit</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Comma_(music)" title="Comma (music)">Comma</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pseudo-octave" title="Pseudo-octave">Pseudo-octave</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_interval" title="Pythagorean interval">Pythagorean interval</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Subminor_and_supermajor" title="Subminor and supermajor">Subminor and supermajor</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:6em;font-weight:normal;"><i><b>Semitones</b></i></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_limma" class="mw-redirect" title="Pythagorean limma">Pythagorean limma</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pythagorean_apotome" class="mw-redirect" title="Pythagorean apotome">Pythagorean apotome</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Major_limma" title="Major limma">Major limma</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:6em;font-weight:normal;"><i><b>Quarter tones</b></i></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-even" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Quarter_tone" title="Quarter tone">Quarter tone</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Septimal_quarter_tone" title="Septimal quarter tone">Septimal quarter tone</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Undecimal_quarter_tone" class="mw-redirect" title="Undecimal quarter tone">Undecimal quarter tone</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:6em;font-weight:normal;"><b><a href="/wiki/Comma_(music)" title="Comma (music)">Commas</a></b></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Pythagorean comma</a> (23.5 cents)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Syntonic_comma" title="Syntonic 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href="/wiki/Schisma" title="Schisma">Schisma</a> (1.95 cents)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Breedsma" title="Breedsma">Breedsma</a> (0.72 cents)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ragisma" title="Ragisma">Ragisma</a> (0.4 cents)</li></ul> </div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:6em;font-weight:normal;"><b>Measurement</b></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-even" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Cent_(music)" title="Cent (music)">Cent</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Cent_(music)#Centitones" title="Cent (music)">Centitone</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Millioctave" title="Millioctave">Millioctave</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Savart" title="Savart">Savart</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="navbox-group" style="width:6em;font-weight:normal;"><b>Others</b></th><td class="navbox-list-with-group navbox-list navbox-odd" style="padding:0"><div style="padding:0 0.25em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wolf_interval" title="Wolf interval">Wolf</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ditone" title="Ditone">Ditone</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Semiditone" class="mw-redirect" title="Semiditone">Semiditone</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/George_Secor#Secor" title="George Secor">Secor</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Incomposite_interval" title="Incomposite interval">Incomposite interval</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr></tbody></table><div></div></td></tr><tr><td class="navbox-abovebelow" colspan="2"><div><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="List-Class article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/Symbol_list_class.svg/16px-Symbol_list_class.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/Symbol_list_class.svg/23px-Symbol_list_class.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/Symbol_list_class.svg/31px-Symbol_list_class.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185" 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