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class="vector-toc-link" href="#well_done!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>well done!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-well_done!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-re:cite_web" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#re:cite_web"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>re:cite web</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-re:cite_web-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cite_Journal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cite_Journal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Cite Journal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Cite_Journal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cite_book" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cite_book"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Cite book</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Cite_book-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Catacombs_(band)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Catacombs_(band)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Catacombs (band)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Catacombs_(band)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Conning_tower" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Conning_tower"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Conning tower</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Conning_tower-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Modularizing off locus specification from bibliographical data</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Now_you_did_it..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Now_you_did_it..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Now you did it...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Now_you_did_it...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sandbox_archive" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sandbox_archive"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Sandbox archive</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sandbox_archive-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:Template_sandbox_notice" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:Template_sandbox_notice"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Template:Template sandbox notice</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:Template_sandbox_notice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Please don't damage our sandboxes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Overlist" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Overlist"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Overlist</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Overlist-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_Labor_Volunteer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_Labor_Volunteer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Edit Labor Volunteer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_Labor_Volunteer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IFD" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IFD"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>IFD</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-IFD-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Barnstar_of_Good_Humour"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Barnstar of Good Humour</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-large_Hadron_Collider_image" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#large_Hadron_Collider_image"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>large Hadron Collider image</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-large_Hadron_Collider_image-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User:Chris_Wattson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User:Chris_Wattson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>User:Chris Wattson</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-User:Chris_Wattson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User:KennethIScott" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User:KennethIScott"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>User:KennethIScott</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-User:KennethIScott-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:AS_Aix.gif" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:AS_Aix.gif"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Image:AS Aix.gif</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image:AS_Aix.gif-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_Your_post" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_Your_post"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Re: Your post</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_Your_post-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Visual_gallery_of_toucans" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Visual_gallery_of_toucans"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Visual gallery of toucans</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Visual_gallery_of_toucans-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Overlist_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Overlist_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Overlist</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Overlist_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Archive_box_collapsible" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Archive_box_collapsible"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Archive box collapsible</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Archive_box_collapsible-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bot_requests" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bot_requests"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Bot requests</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bot_requests-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Votes_for_Deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Votes_for_Deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Votes for Deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Votes_for_Deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 15, 2008.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toucan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toucan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Toucan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Toucan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>DYK - Kamkaze-class destroyer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Thanks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_24/9" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_24/9"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>DYK 24/9</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_24/9-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Acting_Sheriff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Acting_Sheriff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Acting Sheriff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Acting_Sheriff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Deletion review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>DRV of Julius Pitzman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-History_undelete" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#History_undelete"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>History undelete</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-History_undelete-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-This_is_a_ping!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#This_is_a_ping!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>This is a ping!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-This_is_a_ping!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-You_saw_it_here_first" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#You_saw_it_here_first"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>You saw it here first</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-You_saw_it_here_first-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Area_58" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Area_58"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Area 58</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Area_58-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>DYK for Julius Pitzman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:Deletiondiscussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:Deletiondiscussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Template:Deletiondiscussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:Deletiondiscussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Code_conudrum_-_helpplease"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Code conudrum - helpplease</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Julius_Pitzman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Julius_Pitzman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Julius Pitzman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Julius_Pitzman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toucans" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toucans"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Toucans</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Toucans-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DCEETA_photo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DCEETA_photo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>DCEETA photo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DCEETA_photo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Template:Rebecca (or User:Undream) AfDs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Kevin_Wu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>DYK for Kevin Wu</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reply" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reply"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Reply</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reply-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RE_:_Template:Prod-tip"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>RE : Template:Prod-tip</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Broken_edit?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Broken_edit?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Broken edit?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Broken_edit?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_Communist_Is_You?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_Communist_Is_You?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>A Communist Is You?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_Communist_Is_You?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proposed_tag" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_tag"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Proposed tag</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proposed_tag-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DRV_-_notifying_admin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DRV_-_notifying_admin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>DRV - notifying 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id="toc-Opal_Koboi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Opal_Koboi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Opal Koboi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Opal_Koboi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sorry!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sorry!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Sorry!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sorry!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:Rfd_starter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:Rfd_starter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Template:Rfd starter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Template:Rfd_starter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gallery" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gallery"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Gallery</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Gallery-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Erythema_multiforme" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Erythema_multiforme"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Erythema multiforme</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Erythema_multiforme-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ANI_Discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ANI_Discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>ANI Discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ANI_Discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_ANI_thread" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_ANI_thread"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Re: ANI thread</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_ANI_thread-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Image:Batman - The Long Halloween 11 pg15.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ARE_YOU_THERE?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ARE_YOU_THERE?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>ARE YOU THERE?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-ARE_YOU_THERE?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Halloween_box" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Halloween_box"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Halloween box</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Halloween_box-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Speedy deletion nomination of Image:Cuyahoga 1974.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-This_Message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#This_Message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>This Message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-This_Message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Baracky" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Baracky"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>Baracky</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Baracky-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Main page redesing proposal Straw poll</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_for_the_help" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_for_the_help"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Thanks for the help</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_for_the_help-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Orphaned non-free media (Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mass_deletion_nominations" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mass_deletion_nominations"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>Mass deletion nominations</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mass_deletion_nominations-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>List of United States presidents by handedness</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-XfD_warning_templates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#XfD_warning_templates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>XfD warning templates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-XfD_warning_templates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Milk_and_Alcohol"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Milk_and_Alcohol""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>"Milk and Alcohol"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-"Milk_and_Alcohol"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikimedia_Commons" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikimedia_Commons"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>Wikimedia Commons</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wikimedia_Commons-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_source_problem_with_Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_source_problem_with_Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Image source problem with Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image_source_problem_with_Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>DYK for Candy pumpkin</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DR_6_nebula" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DR_6_nebula"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>DR 6 nebula</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DR_6_nebula-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Great_work_deserves_praise" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Great_work_deserves_praise"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Great work deserves praise</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Great_work_deserves_praise-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Scalar_implicature"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>DYK for Scalar implicature</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Valued_images" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Valued_images"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>Wikipedia:Valued images</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Valued_images-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Orphaned non-free media (Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Orphaned non-free media (Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>DYK for Milk and Alcohol</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_DYK_Scene7" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_DYK_Scene7"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>Re: DYK Scene7</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_DYK_Scene7-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Faith_Leech" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Faith_Leech"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>Faith Leech</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Faith_Leech-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>DYK for Vienna Fingers</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>DYK template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_question_answered" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_question_answered"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>DYK question answered</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_question_answered-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>B.P. Newman article may be deleted</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_DYK" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_DYK"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Re: DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_DYK-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Charles_Curtis_(botanist)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span>Charles Curtis (botanist)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_hook" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_hook"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>DYK hook</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_hook-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Documenting_search_methods" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Documenting_search_methods"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">103</span> <span>Documenting search methods</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Documenting_search_methods-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">104</span> <span>DYK for Boris Bazhanov</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Freebiejeebies" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Freebiejeebies"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">105</span> <span>Freebiejeebies</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Freebiejeebies-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">106</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Jeff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Jeff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">107</span> <span>Jeff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Jeff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SS_Mahratta_(1917)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SS_Mahratta_(1917)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">108</span> <span>SS Mahratta (1917)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-SS_Mahratta_(1917)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nassak_Diamond" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nassak_Diamond"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">109</span> <span>Nassak Diamond</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nassak_Diamond-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">110</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_The_Tiger" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_The_Tiger"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">111</span> <span>Re: The Tiger</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_The_Tiger-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">112</span> <span>DYK for Columbia Park, Torrance, California</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">113</span> <span>DYK for Nassak Diamond</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Find_sources?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Find_sources?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">114</span> <span>Find sources?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Find_sources?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Love_dart" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Love_dart"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">115</span> <span>Love dart</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Love_dart-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">116</span> <span>DYK for Trial of Lex Wotton</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-GA_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#GA_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">117</span> <span>GA template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-GA_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nasak_Diamond" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nasak_Diamond"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">118</span> <span>Nasak Diamond</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nasak_Diamond-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_rollback_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_rollback_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">119</span> <span>Your rollback request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_rollback_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Congrats" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Congrats"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">120</span> <span>Congrats</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Congrats-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">121</span> <span><i>Signpost</i> updated for November 17, 2008 and before.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Stevanna_Jackson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Stevanna_Jackson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">122</span> <span>Stevanna Jackson</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Stevanna_Jackson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">123</span> <span>Image source problem with Image:Truman Balcony 154. West Window to Room.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Oops" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Oops"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">124</span> <span>Oops</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Oops-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">125</span> <span>I lift a Tom Collins in salute</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">126</span> <span>Re: DYK Tessa Ludwick</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Altusername" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Altusername"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">127</span> <span>Altusername</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Altusername-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pre-going_live" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pre-going_live"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">128</span> <span>Pre-going live</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Pre-going_live-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Charles_G._Boyd" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Charles_G._Boyd"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">129</span> <span>Charles G. Boyd</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Charles_G._Boyd-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">130</span> <span>DYK for Tessa Ludwick</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Award_of_a_Barnstar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Award_of_a_Barnstar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">131</span> <span>Award of a Barnstar</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Award_of_a_Barnstar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">132</span> <span>Thanks for Input on Marriage Privatization</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Tom_Collins" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Tom_Collins"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">133</span> <span>DYK for Tom Collins</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Tom_Collins-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">134</span> <span>Please do not add categories to preloads</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">135</span> <span>RE : DYK Main Page hits contest</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">136</span> <span>Thank you for participating in my RfA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Power_and_the_Glory" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Power_and_the_Glory"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">137</span> <span>Power and the Glory</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Power_and_the_Glory-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Illana_Katz" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Illana_Katz"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">138</span> <span>DYK for Illana Katz</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Illana_Katz-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-For_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#For_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">139</span> <span>For you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-For_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-INRConvert" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#INRConvert"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">140</span> <span>INRConvert</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-INRConvert-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_Proposal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_Proposal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">141</span> <span>DYK Proposal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_Proposal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">142</span> <span>Thanks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Train_melody" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Train_melody"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">143</span> <span>DYK for Train melody</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Train_melody-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_entry_issue" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_entry_issue"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">144</span> <span>DYK entry issue</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_entry_issue-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Spinoffs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Spinoffs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">145</span> <span>Spinoffs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Spinoffs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Enos_Lowe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Enos_Lowe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">146</span> <span>Enos Lowe</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Enos_Lowe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYKBEST_nominator_credit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYKBEST_nominator_credit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">147</span> <span>DYKBEST nominator credit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYKBEST_nominator_credit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_sample_DYKsugstrings?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">148</span> <span>New sample DYKsugstrings?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">149</span> <span>DYK for Juma and the Magic Jinn</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Velika_Planina" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Velika_Planina"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">150</span> <span>DYK for Velika Planina</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Velika_Planina-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">151</span> <span>DYK for Samuel McDowell</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">152</span> <span>DYK for Toto of Nepi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_nomination_count" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_nomination_count"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">153</span> <span>DYK nomination count</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_nomination_count-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">154</span> <span>DYK for Auxiliary ship Olterra</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">155</span> <span>DYK for Guillermo Kalbreyer</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">156</span> <span>DYK for Lambley, Northumberland</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">157</span> <span>DYK for Castle Crags Wilderness</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">158</span> <span>DYK for List of rating scales for depression</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_William_Wayte" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_William_Wayte"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">159</span> <span>DYK for William Wayte</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_William_Wayte-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">160</span> <span>DYK for Werner Reinhart</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Problem_with_DYK_hook" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Problem_with_DYK_hook"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">161</span> <span>Problem with DYK hook</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Problem_with_DYK_hook-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">162</span> <span>Article for Deletion - Maybe</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">163</span> <span>DYK for Food in Hindu Law</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">164</span> <span>DYK for Charles Cornwallis, 2nd Baron Cornwallis</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">165</span> <span>Monarchy in Ancient India</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hiram_Leavitt" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hiram_Leavitt"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">166</span> <span>Hiram Leavitt</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hiram_Leavitt-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">167</span> <span>DYK for U-101 class submarine</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">168</span> <span>DYK for U-107 class submarine</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">169</span> <span>DYK for Charles Willing Byrd</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">170</span> <span>DYK for Monarchy in Ancient India</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Morpheeins" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Morpheeins"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">171</span> <span>DYK for Morpheeins</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Morpheeins-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">172</span> <span>DYK for Gerald Ford Supreme Court candidates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Bianca_Riario"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">173</span> <span>DYK for Bianca Riario</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-White_Light" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#White_Light"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">174</span> <span>White Light</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-White_Light-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">175</span> <span>DYK for Hiram Leavitt</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Hindu_Titles_of_Law" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Hindu_Titles_of_Law"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">176</span> <span>DYK for Hindu Titles of Law</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Hindu_Titles_of_Law-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Jonathan_Leavitt_(publisher)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Jonathan_Leavitt_(publisher)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">177</span> <span>DYK for Jonathan Leavitt (publisher)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Jonathan_Leavitt_(publisher)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">178</span> <span>DYK for Consumer Protection Safety Improvement Act</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">179</span> <span>DYK for Acute decompensated heart failure</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Erasmus_Ommanney" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Erasmus_Ommanney"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">180</span> <span>DYK for Erasmus Ommanney</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Erasmus_Ommanney-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">181</span> <span>DYK for Miracle of the roses</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">182</span> <span>DYK for Granada Bridge (Ormond Beach)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Thaumatichthys"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">183</span> <span>DYK for Thaumatichthys</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">184</span> <span>DYK for Henry Frederick Stephenson</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Enos_Lowe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">185</span> <span>DYK for Enos Lowe</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_Problem" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_Problem"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">186</span> <span>DYK Problem</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_Problem-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FindMyPair.com" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FindMyPair.com"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">187</span> <span>FindMyPair.com</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-FindMyPair.com-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">188</span> <span>Elections in England and Wales, 1949</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_messages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_messages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">189</span> <span>DYK messages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_messages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">190</span> <span>Columbia Park, Torrance, California GA review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">191</span> <span>DYK for Harcourt Mortimer Bengough</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Trading_halt" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Trading_halt"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">192</span> <span>DYK for Trading halt</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Trading_halt-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Galoter_process" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Galoter_process"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">193</span> <span>DYK for Galoter process</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Galoter_process-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">194</span> <span>DYK for Elections in England and Wales, 1949</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Twist_lifts" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Twist_lifts"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">195</span> <span>DYK for Twist lifts</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Twist_lifts-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">196</span> <span>DYK for Ashley Day Leavitt</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">197</span> <span>DYK for Tom Krieglstein</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Eugene_Goodman" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Eugene_Goodman"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">198</span> <span>DYK for Eugene Goodman</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Eugene_Goodman-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">199</span> <span>DYK for El Mashad v. Bush</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">200</span> <span>DYK for California Avocado Commission</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">201</span> <span>DYK for History of the flags of Romania</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Preflexes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Preflexes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">202</span> <span>DYK for Preflexes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Preflexes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Nāradasmṛti" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Nāradasmṛti"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">203</span> <span>DYK for Nāradasmṛti</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Nāradasmṛti-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Taping_River" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Taping_River"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">204</span> <span>DYK for Taping River</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Taping_River-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">205</span> <span>DYK for Careysburg, Liberia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Walter_Balderson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">206</span> <span>DYK for Walter Balderson</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_NGC_6118" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_NGC_6118"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">207</span> <span>DYK for NGC 6118</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_NGC_6118-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-re_DYKBot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#re_DYKBot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">208</span> <span>re DYKBot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-re_DYKBot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">209</span> <span>DYK for Ball Bearing (Lexus)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Fairview_Creek"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">210</span> <span>DYK for Fairview Creek</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Robert_S._Beightler" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Robert_S._Beightler"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">211</span> <span>Robert S. Beightler</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Robert_S._Beightler-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">212</span> <span>DYK for David Ross (businessman)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">213</span> <span>DYK for Robert S. Beightler</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">214</span> <span>DYK for Colman nepos Cracavist</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-False_vandalism_accusation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#False_vandalism_accusation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">215</span> <span>False vandalism accusation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-False_vandalism_accusation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_vandalism_deal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_vandalism_deal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">216</span> <span>About the vandalism deal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_vandalism_deal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_note" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_note"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">217</span> <span>Your note</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_note-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">218</span> <span>Opinions on the way to Consensus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Subway_beating" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Subway_beating"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">219</span> <span>Subway beating</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Subway_beating-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template_news" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template_news"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">220</span> <span>Template news</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Template_news-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">221</span> <span>Peer Review 3 (Odexed)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Updated_DYK_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Updated_DYK_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">222</span> <span>Updated DYK template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Updated_DYK_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_a_bunch" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_a_bunch"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">223</span> <span>Thanks a bunch</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_a_bunch-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Renaming_DYKsuggestion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Renaming_DYKsuggestion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">224</span> <span>Renaming DYKsuggestion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Renaming_DYKsuggestion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">225</span> <span>Van Buren State Park (Ohio)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">226</span> <span>DYK for Murder of Jan Pawel Pietrzak</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Christmas_tree_stands" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Christmas_tree_stands"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">227</span> <span>Christmas tree stands</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Christmas_tree_stands-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Favor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Favor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">228</span> <span>Favor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Favor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Accolade" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Accolade"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">229</span> <span>Accolade</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Accolade-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Love_Systems" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Love_Systems"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">230</span> <span>Love Systems</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Love_Systems-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">231</span> <span>DYK hooks with 5 or more DYK articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Santa_Claus,_Arizona" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Santa_Claus,_Arizona"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">232</span> <span>Santa Claus, Arizona</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Santa_Claus,_Arizona-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-My_achievement" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#My_achievement"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">233</span> <span>My achievement</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-My_achievement-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_TouchWave" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_TouchWave"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">234</span> <span>DYK for TouchWave</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_TouchWave-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Another_project_for_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Another_project_for_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">235</span> <span>Another project for you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Another_project_for_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-admin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#admin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">236</span> <span>admin</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-admin-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_hook_count" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_hook_count"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">237</span> <span>DYK hook count</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_hook_count-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-GAN_done" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#GAN_done"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">238</span> <span>GAN done</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-GAN_done-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">239</span> <span>DYK for Grasshopper Junction, Arizona</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Best_Wishes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Best_Wishes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">240</span> <span>Best Wishes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Best_Wishes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">241</span> <span>Trial of Lex Wotton GAN on Hold</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merry_Christmas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merry_Christmas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">242</span> <span>Merry Christmas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Merry_Christmas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RE:_Q9" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RE:_Q9"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">243</span> <span>RE: Q9</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RE:_Q9-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">244</span> <span>DYK for Santa Claus, Arizona</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">245</span> <span>DYK for Christmas tree stand</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rfa" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rfa"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">246</span> <span>Rfa</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Rfa-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">247</span> <span>A question mis-posted to WP:RFA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">248</span> <span>Gonna be away for a while</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_RFA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_RFA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">249</span> <span>Your RFA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_RFA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Archiving" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Archiving"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">250</span> <span>Archiving</span> </div> 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This will automatically insert your "signature" (your username and a date stamp). The <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Button_sig.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Button_sig.png" decoding="async" width="23" height="22" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="23" data-file-height="22"/></a></span> button, on the tool bar above Wikipedia's text editing window, also does this.</li></ul> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <ul><li>If you would like to play around with your new Wiki skills the <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox" title="Wikipedia:Sandbox">Sandbox</a></b></i> is for you.</li></ul> <p> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <i>Ukexpat <b>Good luck, and have fun.</b></i> --<a href="/wiki/User:Ukexpat" title="User:Ukexpat">ukexpat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ukexpat" title="User talk:Ukexpat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span></div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Emile_Lessore" data-mw-thread-id="h-Emile_Lessore-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Emile_Lessore-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Emile_Lessore" class="mw-redirect" title="Emile Lessore">Emile Lessore</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Emile_Lessore-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z-Emile_Lessore"></span>I think you are misunderstanding how to use the cite book template. The usual way to use it is in-line with the article text (as per one of my recent edits to the above), enclosing it in ref tags. That tells the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Reflist" title="Template:Reflist">reflist</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template to include it in the numbered references. Then there is no need for a separate References section listing the book again (which is what happens when you use cite book in that section. Happy to help further. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ukexpat" title="User:Ukexpat">ukexpat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ukexpat" title="User talk:Ukexpat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z-Emile_Lessore" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z-Emile_Lessore"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z-Emile_Lessore"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Hi ukexpat. To be honest, the whole citation thing is confusing. I read through Wikipedia:Citing sources and am trying to do it correctly. That page leads to a bunch of "main articles" which also lead elsewhere. Thank's for letting me know about the cite book. Please fix it so that I may see how I can do it in the future. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T17:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z"></span>No problem, I know from experience how daunting and confusing it can be, but at least you are providing sources which is something that 99% of new editors seem to forget about! Give me a few minutes and I will fix. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ukexpat" title="User:Ukexpat">ukexpat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ukexpat" title="User talk:Ukexpat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-07-24T17:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z"></span>OK fixed! – <a href="/wiki/User:Ukexpat" title="User:Ukexpat">ukexpat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ukexpat" title="User talk:Ukexpat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-07-24T18:40:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z"></span>Looks good. Thanks. The links you provided above seem to have some good information as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-07-24T18:40:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-07-24T18:40:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-07-24T18:40:00.000Z-Ukexpat-2008-07-24T18:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RJC" data-mw-thread-id="h-RJC-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RJC-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Ray_Joseph_Cormier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Ray Joseph Cormier (page does not exist)">RJC</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-RJC-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z-RJC"></span>You can find out more <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ray_Joseph_Cormier&oldid=220975243">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z-RJC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z-RJC"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z-RJC"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span>All that information was originally in the article, but removed to the history as not being encyclopedic, but it was more interesting reading. Because the article is about me, I have recused myself from editing it. I have been waiting for someone to come forward and find a way to re-work the information. The discussion page of the article has loads of info. Someone else has commented on your reply to me. Peace <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-08-06T19:29:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z"></span>Hi Ray. I would be happy to re-work the information. However, without the original news articles and other source material, there isn't much I can do. I hope things work out. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-08-06T19:29:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-08-06T19:29:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-08-06T19:29:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span>If you want, you can e-mail me through Wikipedia with your personal e-mail address and I would send you scans of the copyright newspaper references in the article. Thanks. Peace <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z"></span>What the heck? E-mail ray032@sympatico.ca <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:35:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-08-07T02:20:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z"></span>Hi Ray. I just got an answer from the Help Desk which said that reproduction of the news articles for research purposes is probably fair use.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=230323737">[1]</a> I'll send you an email. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-08-07T02:20:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-08-07T02:20:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-08-07T02:20:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T19:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-23T09:47:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span>I don't know how this happens, but if you Google the subject name, your talk page comes up. <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-23T09:47:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 23 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-23T09:47:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-23T09:47:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-08-06T11:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nichalp-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z-Thanks"></span>Thanks for those references Suntag! I'll have a go at expanding the article tomorrow. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Nichalp" title="User:Nichalp"><span style="color:#0082B8;">=Nichalp</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nichalp" title="User talk:Nichalp"><span style="color:#0082B8;">«Talk»=</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Nichalp-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nichalp-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z-Thanks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nichalp-2008-08-13T17:38:00.000Z-Thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hail_Satan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hail_Satan-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hail_Satan-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Hail Satan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hail_Satan-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z-Hail_Satan"></span>Ah thanks so much for the help with this article- I find reference templates so difficult to format, and the citebooks so long-winded. You're a gem. All help appreciated!:) <a href="/wiki/User:Sticky_Parkin" title="User:Sticky Parkin"><b style="color:#FF8C00;">Sticky</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sticky_Parkin" title="User talk:Sticky Parkin"><b style="color:#FF8C00;">Parkin</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z-Hail_Satan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z-Hail_Satan"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z-Hail_Satan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-08-14T18:10:00.000Z-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I did a few and then thought, this sucks! Lol. It's easier if you fill in the reference templates before using material in the article. There's a few remining cites that need fixing in the article. I'll see if I can fix them. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-08-14T18:10:00.000Z-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-08-14T18:10:00.000Z-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-08-14T18:10:00.000Z-Sticky_Parkin-2008-08-13T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="well_done!" data-mw-thread-id="h-well_done!-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z"><span id="well_done.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-well_done!-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z"></span>well done!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-well_done!-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victuallers-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z-well_done!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/17_August" class="mw-redirect" title="17 August">17 August</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/William_Yardley" title="William Yardley">William Yardley</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Well done tou two <a href="/wiki/User:Victuallers" title="User:Victuallers">Victuallers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victuallers" title="User talk:Victuallers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Victuallers-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z-well_done!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victuallers-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z-well_done!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victuallers-2008-08-17T11:46:00.000Z-well_done!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re:cite_web" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:cite_web-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:cite_web-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z"></span>re:cite web<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:cite_web-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JPINFV-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z-re:cite_web"></span>Thanks for reinstating it! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JPINFV" title="User:JPINFV">JPINFV</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JPINFV" title="User talk:JPINFV">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-JPINFV-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z-re:cite_web" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JPINFV-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z-re:cite_web"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JPINFV-2008-08-28T04:55:00.000Z-re:cite_web"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cite_Journal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cite_Journal-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cite_Journal-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z"></span>Cite Journal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cite_Journal-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lawrencekhoo-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z-Cite_Journal"></span>Thanks for the heads up! I actually think cite journal, etc. is useful as a search term, and as a shortcut, but I don't have strong feeling about it. <a href="/wiki/User:Lawrencekhoo" title="User:Lawrencekhoo">lk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lawrencekhoo" title="User talk:Lawrencekhoo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Lawrencekhoo-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z-Cite_Journal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lawrencekhoo-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z-Cite_Journal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lawrencekhoo-2008-08-28T07:39:00.000Z-Cite_Journal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cite_book" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cite_book-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cite_book-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z"></span>Cite book<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cite_book-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Physis-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z-Cite_book"></span>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a>, </p><p>Thank You very much for <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Physis#Revert_review" title="User talk:Physis">Your message</a>. </p><p>If I cite sources with the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template, I usually use these parameters:<br/> {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a> |last=… |first=… |authorlink=… |title=… |publisher=… |location=… |year=… |isbn=… |url=… |ref=…}}. </p><p>I agree with the deletion of <tt>pages</tt> field with full heart, because the page number of the citation must be <a href="/wiki/Modularity" title="Modularity">modularized off</a> from the bibliographical data, thus promoting <a href="/wiki/Code_reuse" title="Code reuse">reuse</a> when several <a href="/wiki/Locus" class="mw-disambig" title="Locus">loci</a> are cited from the same book. Wikipedia's guidelines describe this technique as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITESHORT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITESHORT">Shortened notes + maintaining standalone "Notes" and "References" sections</a>. </p><p>I admit that my obligatory usage of <tt>ref</tt> is my personal habit: it enables <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources/Further_considerations#Wikilinks_to_full_references" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations">wikilinks to full references</a>. I usually use fields <tt>authorlink</tt> and <tt>isbn</tt>, but I can accept if somebody finds their rank as "commonly used" be debatable. </p><p>In Hungary, <tt>location</tt> is almost always provided for bibliographical data, I do not know the English conventions. </p><p>I always keep the spaces before bars in attribute-value style parametrized templates. The best solution for the debate would be introducing a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Tlx" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Tlx">tlx</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>-like <a href="/wiki/Category:Typing-aid_templates" title="Category:Typing-aid templates">metatemplate</a> that would be capable of rendering even attribute-value style parameter lists. Then the typesetting questions could be modularized off from the logical representation. </p><p>Best wishes, I wish You much pleasure in Wikipedia, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Physis" title="User:Physis">Physis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Physis" title="User talk:Physis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Physis-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z-Cite_book" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 31 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Physis-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z-Cite_book"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Physis-2008-08-31T09:24:00.000Z-Cite_book"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Catacombs_(band)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Catacombs_(band)-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z"><span id="Catacombs_.28band.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Catacombs_(band)-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Catacombs (band)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Catacombs_(band)-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-U-D13-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z-Catacombs_(band)"></span>Well, I spent all night gathering links and references, so <a href="/wiki/Catacombs_(band)" title="Catacombs (band)">current situation</a> should be a bit different... <a href="/wiki/User:U-D13" title="User:U-D13">Nameless Undead</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:U-D13" title="User talk:U-D13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-U-D13-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z-Catacombs_(band)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-U-D13-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z-Catacombs_(band)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-U-D13-2008-08-31T21:39:00.000Z-Catacombs_(band)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Conning_tower" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conning_tower-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conning_tower-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Conning_tower" title="Conning tower">Conning tower</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conning_tower-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jll-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z-Conning_tower"></span>Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look! <a href="/wiki/User:Jll" title="User:Jll">Jll</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jll" title="User talk:Jll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jll-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z-Conning_tower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 31 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jll-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z-Conning_tower"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jll-2008-08-31T22:42:00.000Z-Conning_tower"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data" data-mw-thread-id="h-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z"></span>Modularizing off locus specification from bibliographical data<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Physis-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data"></span>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a>, </p><p>Thank You for Your <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Physis#Revert_review" title="User talk:Physis">message</a>. </p><p>Modularization is my analogy from the software development to a decomopsition. If several <a href="/wiki/Locus" class="mw-disambig" title="Locus">loci</a> are cited from the same book, then we are forced to repeat the bibliographical data of the same book as many times as many loci are cited: </p> <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFMerkur1985c" class="citation book cs1">Merkur, Daniel (1985c). "The Ecstasies of Inuit Laity". <i>Becoming Half Hidden: Shamanism and Initiation among the Inuit</i>. Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksell. p. 4. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0" title="Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0"><bdi>91-22-00752-0</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Ecstasies+of+Inuit+Laity&rft.btitle=Becoming+Half+Hidden%3A+Shamanism+and+Initiation+among+the+Inuit&rft.place=Stockholm&rft.pages=4&rft.pub=Almqvist+%26+Wiksell&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=91-22-00752-0&rft.aulast=Merkur&rft.aufirst=Daniel&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Text "series: Acta Universitatis Stockholmiensis • Stockholm Studies in Comparative Religion" ignored (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#text_ignored" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFMerkur1985c" class="citation book cs1">Merkur, Daniel (1985c). "The Ecstasies of Inuit Laity". <i>Becoming Half Hidden: Shamanism and Initiation among the Inuit</i>. Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksell. p. 25. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0" title="Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0"><bdi>91-22-00752-0</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Ecstasies+of+Inuit+Laity&rft.btitle=Becoming+Half+Hidden%3A+Shamanism+and+Initiation+among+the+Inuit&rft.place=Stockholm&rft.pages=25&rft.pub=Almqvist+%26+Wiksell&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=91-22-00752-0&rft.aulast=Merkur&rft.aufirst=Daniel&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Text "series: Acta Universitatis Stockholmiensis • Stockholm Studies in Comparative Religion" ignored (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#text_ignored" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFKleivan1985" class="citation book cs1">Kleivan, Inge (1985). <i>Eskimos: Greenland and Canada</i>. Iconography of religions, section VIII, "Arctic Peoples", fascicle 2. Leiden, The Netherlands: Institute of Religious Iconography • State University Groningen. E.J. Brill. p. 3. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/90-04-07160-1" title="Special:BookSources/90-04-07160-1"><bdi>90-04-07160-1</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Eskimos%3A+Greenland+and+Canada&rft.place=Leiden%2C+The+Netherlands&rft.series=Iconography+of+religions%2C+section+VIII%2C+%22Arctic+Peoples%22%2C+fascicle+2&rft.pages=3&rft.pub=Institute+of+Religious+Iconography+%E2%80%A2+State+University+Groningen.+E.J.+Brill&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=90-04-07160-1&rft.aulast=Kleivan&rft.aufirst=Inge&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Unknown parameter <code class="cs1-code">|coauthors=</code> ignored (<code class="cs1-code">|author=</code> suggested) (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#parameter_ignored_suggest" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFMerkur1985c" class="citation book cs1">Merkur, Daniel (1985c). "The Ecstasies of Inuit Laity". <i>Becoming Half Hidden: Shamanism and Initiation among the Inuit</i>. Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksell. p. 89. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0" title="Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0"><bdi>91-22-00752-0</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Ecstasies+of+Inuit+Laity&rft.btitle=Becoming+Half+Hidden%3A+Shamanism+and+Initiation+among+the+Inuit&rft.place=Stockholm&rft.pages=89&rft.pub=Almqvist+%26+Wiksell&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=91-22-00752-0&rft.aulast=Merkur&rft.aufirst=Daniel&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Text "series: Acta Universitatis Stockholmiensis • Stockholm Studies in Comparative Religion" ignored (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#text_ignored" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>Techniques like "ibid.", "idem" are not scalable enough, they are fragile: if there are huge number of citations, and the order of citations is profoundly rearranged, then it can be easily confused. That's why it is better to maintain two sections in the appendix for naming the references. One for the loci, the other for the bibliographical data: </p> <dl><dt>Notes</dt></dl> <ul><li>Merkur 1985: 4</li> <li>Merkur 1985: 25</li> <li>Kleivan & Sonne 1985: 3</li> <li>Merkur 1985: 81</li></ul> <dl><dt>References</dt></dl> <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFKleivan1985" class="citation book cs1">Kleivan, Inge (1985). <i>Eskimos: Greenland and Canada</i>. Iconography of religions, section VIII, "Arctic Peoples", fascicle 2. Leiden, The Netherlands: Institute of Religious Iconography • State University Groningen. E.J. Brill. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/90-04-07160-1" title="Special:BookSources/90-04-07160-1"><bdi>90-04-07160-1</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Eskimos%3A+Greenland+and+Canada&rft.place=Leiden%2C+The+Netherlands&rft.series=Iconography+of+religions%2C+section+VIII%2C+%22Arctic+Peoples%22%2C+fascicle+2&rft.pub=Institute+of+Religious+Iconography+%E2%80%A2+State+University+Groningen.+E.J.+Brill&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=90-04-07160-1&rft.aulast=Kleivan&rft.aufirst=Inge&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Unknown parameter <code class="cs1-code">|coauthors=</code> ignored (<code class="cs1-code">|author=</code> suggested) (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#parameter_ignored_suggest" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFMerkur1985c" class="citation book cs1">Merkur, Daniel (1985c). "The Ecstasies of Inuit Laity". <i>Becoming Half Hidden: Shamanism and Initiation among the Inuit</i>. Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksell. pp. 41–69. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0" title="Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0"><bdi>91-22-00752-0</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Ecstasies+of+Inuit+Laity&rft.btitle=Becoming+Half+Hidden%3A+Shamanism+and+Initiation+among+the+Inuit&rft.place=Stockholm&rft.pages=41-69&rft.pub=Almqvist+%26+Wiksell&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=91-22-00752-0&rft.aulast=Merkur&rft.aufirst=Daniel&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Text "series: Acta Universitatis Stockholmiensis • Stockholm Studies in Comparative Religion" ignored (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#text_ignored" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>The technique is described in both as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITESHORT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITESHORT">shortened footnotes</a>, one of the several proposed ways in Wikipedia's guideline for references. </p><p>I use that in "my" articles, for example <a href="/wiki/Sireniki_Eskimos" class="mw-redirect" title="Sireniki Eskimos">Sireniki Eskimos</a>, <a href="/wiki/Shamanism_among_Eskimo_peoples" class="mw-redirect" title="Shamanism among Eskimo peoples">Shamanism among Eskimo peoples</a>. Sometimes I cite dozens of different loci from the same book, than it seems for me the most satisfactory solution. </p><p>Is it boring to search for the corresponding short notes and bibliographical records? That's what <tt>ref</tt> field is good for: providing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources/Further_considerations#Wikilinks_to_full_references" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations">wikilinks from short notes to their corresponding full references</a>: </p> <dl><dt>Notes</dt></dl> <ul><li><a href="#Mer85c">Merkur 1985</a>: 4</li> <li><a href="#Mer85c">Merkur 1985</a>: 25</li> <li><a href="#KlSo85">Kleivan & Sonne 1985</a>: 3</li> <li><a href="#Mer85">Merkur 1985</a>: 81</li></ul> <dl><dt>References</dt></dl> <ul><li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="KlSo85" class="citation book cs1">Kleivan, Inge (1985). <i>Eskimos: Greenland and Canada</i>. Iconography of religions, section VIII, "Arctic Peoples", fascicle 2. Leiden, The Netherlands: Institute of Religious Iconography • State University Groningen. E.J. Brill. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/90-04-07160-1" title="Special:BookSources/90-04-07160-1"><bdi>90-04-07160-1</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Eskimos%3A+Greenland+and+Canada&rft.place=Leiden%2C+The+Netherlands&rft.series=Iconography+of+religions%2C+section+VIII%2C+%22Arctic+Peoples%22%2C+fascicle+2&rft.pub=Institute+of+Religious+Iconography+%E2%80%A2+State+University+Groningen.+E.J.+Brill&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=90-04-07160-1&rft.aulast=Kleivan&rft.aufirst=Inge&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Unknown parameter <code class="cs1-code">|coauthors=</code> ignored (<code class="cs1-code">|author=</code> suggested) (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#parameter_ignored_suggest" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="Mer85c" class="citation book cs1">Merkur, Daniel (1985c). "The Ecstasies of Inuit Laity". <i>Becoming Half Hidden: Shamanism and Initiation among the Inuit</i>. Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksell. pp. 41–69. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0" title="Special:BookSources/91-22-00752-0"><bdi>91-22-00752-0</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=The+Ecstasies+of+Inuit+Laity&rft.btitle=Becoming+Half+Hidden%3A+Shamanism+and+Initiation+among+the+Inuit&rft.place=Stockholm&rft.pages=41-69&rft.pub=Almqvist+%26+Wiksell&rft.date=1985&rft.isbn=91-22-00752-0&rft.aulast=Merkur&rft.aufirst=Daniel&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ASuntag%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_book" title="Template:Cite book">cite book</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment">Text "series: Acta Universitatis Stockholmiensis • Stockholm Studies in Comparative Religion" ignored (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#text_ignored" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>I use thatin "my" newest articles like <a href="/wiki/G%C3%B6del_numbering_for_sequences" title="Gödel numbering for sequences">Gödel numbering for sequences</a>, <a href="/wiki/Marind-anim" class="mw-redirect" title="Marind-anim">Marind-anim</a>. </p><p>Thank You for explaining the conventions. In Hungary, publishers rarely move, their location is usually given. </p><p>Unfortunatelly, I cannot make templates, I do not know the technique at all. <a href="/wiki/Category:Typing-aid_templates" title="Category:Typing-aid templates">Metatemplates</a> are also very new to me, I have just discovered thir mere existence the day before yesterday. I have already done many promises for the next weeks (writing a general, primary topic article about <a href="/wiki/User:Physis/Bootstrapping" title="User:Physis/Bootstrapping">bootstrapping</a> (recently there is only a <a href="/wiki/Bootstrapping" title="Bootstrapping">disambiguation page on bootstrapping</a>). </p><p>Best wishes, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Physis" title="User:Physis">Physis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Physis" title="User talk:Physis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Physis-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Physis-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Physis-2008-09-01T06:31:00.000Z-Modularizing_off_locus_specification_from_bibliographical_data"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Now_you_did_it..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Now_you_did_it...-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Now_you_did_it...-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Now you did it...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Now_you_did_it...-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-147.70.242.40-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z-Now_you_did_it..."></span>... you threw me a challenge that I couldn't resist. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Albino_channel_catfish&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Albino channel catfish (page does not exist)">Albino channel catfish</a>, anybody? I'll leave it to you if <a href="/w/index.php?title=Albino_squirrel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Albino squirrel (page does not exist)">albino squirrel</a> is worth a redirect. My work computer rejects cookies; so I cannot start any articles here, but at least I can "weed out" a few redirects. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/147.70.242.40" title="Special:Contributions/147.70.242.40">147.70.242.40</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:147.70.242.40" title="User talk:147.70.242.40">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-147.70.242.40-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z-Now_you_did_it..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-147.70.242.40-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z-Now_you_did_it..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-147.70.242.40-2008-09-03T20:26:00.000Z-Now_you_did_it..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sandbox_archive" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sandbox_archive-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sandbox_archive-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z"></span>Sandbox archive<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sandbox_archive-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z-Sandbox_archive"></span>Please take a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox/Archive2" title="Wikipedia:Sandbox/Archive2">Wikipedia:Sandbox/Archive2</a> as your protection of the page didn't seem to work. Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z-Sandbox_archive" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z-Sandbox_archive"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z-Sandbox_archive"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z"></span>How do you mean? - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Random832" title="User talk:Random832">Random832</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Random832" title="Special:Contributions/Random832">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASandbox%2FArchive2&diff=198115850&oldid=198115828"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z"></span>Here</a> you wrote "Changed protection level for "Wikipedia:Sandbox/Archive2": this is not the sandbox anymore. [edit=sysop:move=sysop])". The <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox/Archive2&diff=next&oldid=198115850">very next edit</a> changed what you posted and used the edit summary "<i>(I'm baaaaaaack ...)</i>". I'm not sure what the point of this page is and the edit summary "<i>(I'm baaaaaaack ...)</i>" seemed odd, so I assumed that the last change to the page was odd as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T19:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z"></span>User:Graham87</a> is an administrator. The edit itself was adding a historical tag to the page. The page itself is older history from the sandbox - the original idea was to do this periodically so that the history of the "live" sandbox would not grow too large to be deleted. --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Random832" title="User talk:Random832">Random832</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Random832" title="Special:Contributions/Random832">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-09T19:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T20:02:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the explanation. Happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-09T20:02:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T20:02:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T20:02:00.000Z-Random832-2008-09-09T20:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Template_sandbox_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Template_sandbox_notice-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Template_sandbox_notice-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z"></span>Template:Template sandbox notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Template_sandbox_notice-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice"></span>Hi Conrad. ... <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-09T17:35:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-10T02:32:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Template_sandbox_notice#Sandbox_Name_Case_Sensitivity" title="Template talk:Template sandbox notice">Template talk:Template sandbox notice#Sandbox Name Case Sensitivity</a> – <a href="/wiki/User:ConradPino" title="User:ConradPino">Conrad T. Pino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ConradPino#top" title="User talk:ConradPino">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ConradPino-2008-09-10T02:32:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-10T02:32:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ConradPino-2008-09-10T02:32:00.000Z-Template:Template_sandbox_notice"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z"><span id="Please_don.27t_damage_our_sandboxes"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z"></span>Please don't damage our sandboxes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span>This discussion has now been copied/moved to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Template_sandbox_notice#Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" title="Template talk:Template sandbox notice">Template talk:Template sandbox notice#Please don't damage our sandboxes</a>, please put any further comments there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Davidgothberg" title="User:Davidgothberg">David Göthberg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidgothberg" title="User talk:Davidgothberg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span>Sorry to leave a cranky message here since I know you only meant well, but I have just spent an hour cleaning up after your recent edits to template sandboxes that are on my watchlist. </p><p>You added sandbox notices to them that caused several problems: </p><p>1: They caused newlines thus breaking the examples. </p><p>2: They added code on top of the test templates that doesn't belong there, which makes it much more error prone when we cut and paste the template code into the actual deployed high-risk templates. </p><p>I had to fix the newlines you caused and then go around purging the pages that use the sandbox examples. And I removed your sandbox code from the sandboxes of the high-risk templates due to reason 2 above. Those sandboxes already have a clear statement <i>below</i> the test template that they are sandboxes. </p><p>So <i>please</i> don't add newlines when you add sandbox notices, and <i>please</i> don't add sandbox notices at all to high-risk templates' sandboxes, and <i>please</i> don't add sandbox notices to sandboxes who already clearly states they are sandboxes. </p><p>I only fixed the cases that are on my watchlist. I suggest you check and fix the newlines in the rest of the sandbox edits you have been doing. And don't forget to then purge the pages that use those sandbox examples, or people will think they are broken and spend time trying to fix them. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Davidgothberg" title="User:Davidgothberg">David Göthberg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidgothberg" title="User talk:Davidgothberg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T06:44:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi David. Your message was not cranky and sorry for any problems I caused. I thought the "noinclude" would prevent my addition from affecting the sandbox. <a href="/wiki/Template:Template_sandbox_notice" title="Template:Template sandbox notice">Template:Template sandbox notice</a> instructs to add the template to the top of the sandbox page with the code below. All the pages I added <a href="/wiki/Template:Template_sandbox_notice" title="Template:Template sandbox notice">Template:Template sandbox notice</a> were not categorized in <a href="/wiki/Category:Template_sandboxes" title="Category:Template sandboxes">Category:Template sandboxes</a>. If you can, please add <a href="/wiki/Category:Template_sandboxes" title="Category:Template sandboxes">Category:Template sandboxes</a> to those high-risk templates from which you removed the sandbox code. I'll look over the sandbox pages that I edited. Thanks for the notice. I won't add any more Template sandbox notices. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-10T06:44:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T06:44:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T06:44:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T06:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span>As I explained above adding the sandbox notice causes two problems. Look at these two code examples: </p> <pre><noinclude>{{Template sandbox notice}}</noinclude> Lots of template code.<noinclude> Perhaps a sandbox explanation or test examples. </noinclude> </pre> <pre><noinclude>{{Template sandbox notice}} </noinclude>Lots of template code.<noinclude> Perhaps a sandbox explanation or test examples. </noinclude> </pre> <p>The first example above causes a newline before the template code. That has big effects on how the template renders in its test examples. </p><p>The second example in theory has no negative effects. But once the code is working and a human copies and pastes the code into the actual deployed template it gets tricky. Since then the human must select exactly after the ">" character at the end of the first "</noinclude>" and until the start or end of the second "<noinclude>". That is tricky and error prone and every now and then it results in that faulty code gets copied and pasted into widely used templates. </p><p>That is why many of us now code our sandboxes like this: </p> <pre>Lots of template code.<noinclude> Perhaps a sandbox explanation or test examples. </noinclude> </pre> <p>Since that means we can copy and paste whole lines. That is, from the very start of the page until and including the whole line with the first "<noinclude>" tag. (Since we usually want that noinclude in the deployed template.) That reduces the human errors a lot. </p><p>And regarding <a href="/wiki/Category:Template_sandboxes" title="Category:Template sandboxes">Category:Template sandboxes</a>. I don't see why we should need to categorise our test pages? That is just too much bureaucracy. </p><p>Oh, and by the way, I like your username! It gives me several nice associations. :)) </p><p>Oh, and one more thing: Would it be okay with you if we move or copy this discussion to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Template_sandbox_notice" title="Template talk:Template sandbox notice">Template talk:Template sandbox notice</a>? I think this discussion can be interesting for others, even in the future. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Davidgothberg" title="User:Davidgothberg">David Göthberg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidgothberg" title="User talk:Davidgothberg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T07:29:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z"></span>Hi again, David. I'll go through my posts and move all my posts to the bottom of the template and, for those that have a doc page, I'll move it there. I'll remove my posts from any template labeled high risk. Yes, copy this discussion to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Template_sandbox_notice" title="Template talk:Template sandbox notice">Template talk:Template sandbox notice</a>. Perhaps we can revise the instructions for that template. <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-10T07:29:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T07:29:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T07:29:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T07:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span>Okay, I will copy this discussion there. But before that: </p><p>Now that we have tinkered a little with this, here is how I think we can use the sandbox notice in a way that looks good on the pages, works well, and doesn't cause any of the problems I mention above: </p> <pre>Lots of template code.<noinclude> {{Template sandbox notice}} Perhaps a sandbox explanation or test examples. </noinclude> </pre> <p>What do you think about that? It means the sandbox notice gets shown below the template being tested, but before any other explanations or long test examples. So the sandbox notice is still close to the top of the page. But the template being tested/developed is still easy to copy and paste to the main template without much risk for human error. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Davidgothberg" title="User:Davidgothberg">David Göthberg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidgothberg" title="User talk:Davidgothberg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T08:35:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z"></span>That sounds good. I've been moving {{Template sandbox notice}} from the top of the template to the bottom of the template page. Most templates have <noinclude> at the bottom, so I've been putting {{Template sandbox notice}} below that, above {{Documentation}} if it exists. The pages I still need to review are at <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Suntag/sandbox2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Suntag/sandbox2 (page does not exist)">User:Suntag/sandbox2</a>. I'm going to take a break at the moment. Please feel free to look over the pages. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-10T08:35:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T08:35:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-10T08:35:00.000Z-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T08:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-1"></span>This discussion has now been copied/moved to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Template_sandbox_notice#Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes" title="Template talk:Template sandbox notice">Template talk:Template sandbox notice#Please don't damage our sandboxes</a>, please put any further comments there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Davidgothberg" title="User:Davidgothberg">David Göthberg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidgothberg" title="User talk:Davidgothberg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidgothberg-2008-09-10T12:20:00.000Z-Please_don't_damage_our_sandboxes-1"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Overlist" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overlist-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overlist-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z"></span>Overlist<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overlist-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z-Overlist"></span>Yeah, sure. What do you want me to change to make it more essaylike? <a href="/wiki/User:Bulldog123" title="User:Bulldog123">Bulldog123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bulldog123" title="User talk:Bulldog123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z-Overlist" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z-Overlist"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z-Overlist"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T22:02:00.000Z-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z"></span>Ok. Will do. Snappy name might be a challenge though. <a href="/wiki/User:Bulldog123" title="User:Bulldog123">Bulldog123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bulldog123" title="User talk:Bulldog123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T22:02:00.000Z-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T22:02:00.000Z-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T22:02:00.000Z-Bulldog123-2008-09-10T21:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox" data-mw-thread-id="h-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z"></span>SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox"></span>Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Ultraexactzz" title="User:Ultraexactzz">UltraExactZZ</a> <sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ultraexactzz" title="User talk:Ultraexactzz">Claims</a> </sup>~<small> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ultraexactzz" title="Special:Contributions/Ultraexactzz">Evidence</a> </small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z-SarahPalinSegmentsUnderInfoBox"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justmeherenow-2008-09-19T23:14:00.000Z-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z"></span>Alo! (Requested an edit there.)<a href="/wiki/User:Justmeherenow" title="User:Justmeherenow"><span style="font-family: Mistral ; font-size: 10p"> <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle \sim }"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mo>∼</mo> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle \sim }</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/afcc42adfcfdc24d5c4c474869e5d8eaa78d1173" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: 0.307ex; margin-bottom: -0.478ex; width:1.808ex; height:1.343ex;" alt="{\displaystyle \sim }"/></span> J<i>ust</i>me<i>here</i>now</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justmeherenow" title="User talk:Justmeherenow"><small><i><b>( )</b></i></small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Justmeherenow-2008-09-19T23:14:00.000Z-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justmeherenow-2008-09-19T23:14:00.000Z-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justmeherenow-2008-09-19T23:14:00.000Z-Ultraexactzz-2008-09-11T16:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_Labor_Volunteer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_Labor_Volunteer-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_Labor_Volunteer-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z"></span>Edit Labor Volunteer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_Labor_Volunteer-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z-Edit_Labor_Volunteer"></span>Looks like <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Template_sandbox_notice" title="Template:Template sandbox notice">Template sandbox notice</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> discussion is winding down. I'll help edit should you be pressed for time; let me know on my talk page. – <a href="/wiki/User:ConradPino" title="User:ConradPino">Conrad T. Pino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ConradPino" title="User talk:ConradPino">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z-Edit_Labor_Volunteer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z-Edit_Labor_Volunteer"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z-Edit_Labor_Volunteer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Conrad. I would appreciate your going through the templates. I revised the list at <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Suntag/sandbox2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Suntag/sandbox2 (page does not exist)">User:Suntag/sandbox2</a> to make it easier. Basically, you can open about twenty at a time and edit the list in batches of twenty. If you do the review, please let me know so I don't duplicate your effort. Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag#top" title="User talk:Suntag">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z-ConradPino-2008-09-11T19:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z"></span>I'm in the Pacific Time Zone I'll have an hour free at 7 PM PDT 11-Sep-2008. I'll check in then for a list where you'd like me to work. – <a href="/wiki/User:ConradPino" title="User:ConradPino">Conrad T. Pino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ConradPino" title="User talk:ConradPino">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ConradPino-2008-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-12T02:14:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z"></span>I'm here per the above and your contributions page says perhaps you're still here. Please visit <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Suntag/sandbox2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Suntag/sandbox2 (page does not exist)">User:Suntag/sandbox2</a> at your convenience. – <a href="/wiki/User:ConradPino" title="User:ConradPino">Conrad T. Pino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ConradPino" title="User talk:ConradPino">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ConradPino-2008-09-12T02:14:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ConradPino-2008-09-12T02:14:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ConradPino-2008-09-12T02:14:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-11T20:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IFD" data-mw-thread-id="h-IFD-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IFD-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z"></span>IFD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IFD-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z-IFD"></span>Hi there </p><p>I've replied at my talk. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rifleman_82" title="User:Rifleman 82">Rifleman 82</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rifleman_82" title="User talk:Rifleman 82">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z-IFD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z-IFD"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rifleman_82-2008-09-12T23:37:00.000Z-IFD"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barnstar_of_Good_Humour" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Barnstar of Good Humour<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Humour3.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Barnstar_of_Humour3.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Humour3.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Barnstar_of_Humour3.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Barnstar of Good Humour</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For making the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AImages_and_media_for_deletion%2F2008_September_9&diff=237794312&oldid=237793234">deletion</a> of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AImages_and_media_for_deletion%2F2008_September_9&diff=237787867&oldid=237785269">images</a> much more amusing. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Million_Moments" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Million Moments">Million_Moments</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Million_Moments" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Million Moments">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z-Barnstar_of_Good_Humour"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:45:00.000Z-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Your welcome. <a href="/wiki/User:Million_Moments" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Million Moments">Million_Moments</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Million_Moments" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Million Moments">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:45:00.000Z-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:45:00.000Z-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:45:00.000Z-Million_Moments-2008-09-13T14:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="large_Hadron_Collider_image" data-mw-thread-id="h-large_Hadron_Collider_image-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-large_Hadron_Collider_image-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z"></span>large Hadron Collider image<span data-mw-comment-end="h-large_Hadron_Collider_image-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinjakubik-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z-large_Hadron_Collider_image"></span>regarding your request, I'd like to give it a try, but where can I get an svg map of europe? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinjakubik" title="User:Martinjakubik">martin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinjakubik" title="User talk:Martinjakubik">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Martinjakubik-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z-large_Hadron_Collider_image" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinjakubik-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z-large_Hadron_Collider_image"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinjakubik-2008-09-13T18:16:00.000Z-large_Hadron_Collider_image"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:Chris_Wattson" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Chris_Wattson-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:Chris_Wattson-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z"></span>User:Chris Wattson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:Chris_Wattson-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z-User:Chris_Wattson"></span>I'll help keep a look out. Best, --<a href="/wiki/User:Jh12" title="User:Jh12">Jh12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jh12" title="User talk:Jh12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z-User:Chris_Wattson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z-User:Chris_Wattson"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z-User:Chris_Wattson"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z"></span>I think in regards to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charity_(name)&diff=prev&oldid=237767068">this edit</a>, Chris Wattson was actually trying to fix the page, not realizing that it was uncaught vandalism by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.251.157.12" title="Special:Contributions/69.251.157.12">Special:Contributions/69.251.157.12</a>. I have restored the <a href="/wiki/Charity_(name)" title="Charity (name)">disambig page</a> to the last clean version. Right now I'd prefer to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith" title="Wikipedia:Assume good faith">Wikipedia:Assume good faith</a> on Wattson, but be assured I will add warnings if something blatant turns up. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jh12" title="User:Jh12">Jh12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jh12" title="User talk:Jh12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ainsley_Harriott&diff=prev&oldid=237768928"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z"></span>inserting nonsense</a> - possibly good-faith, but needs a reference. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charity_(name)&diff=prev&oldid=237767068">inserting nonsense</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charity_(name)&diff=prev&oldid=238009702">inserting same nonsense</a> - possible misunderstanding of previous vandalism. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Temp&diff=prev&oldid=238194852">removing deletion template</a> - curious, though removing a speedy deletion tag is not unusual if the user planed to do something with the page, including creating a redirect. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Scepia/cvg-N&diff=prev&oldid=238007503">using another's subpage</a> - possibly good-faith to create a new userbox, although definitely in the wrong userspace <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chris_Wattson&diff=prev&oldid=237552957">making talk page a redirect</a> - it's common for users to redirect their own userpage to their talk page, though this was backwards <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:U-Two&diff=prev&oldid=238197703">how to vandalize</a> - slightly bizarre, but it's not vandalism in itself? I will be informing the user of some potential problems, although there's still a lack of overt, blatant vandalism --<a href="/wiki/User:Jh12" title="User:Jh12">Jh12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jh12" title="User talk:Jh12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I haven't done much vandalism work, so I appreciate the comments. In the collective, they seem unusual. I had posted a note on Rlevse's page,<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rlevse&diff=prev&oldid=238196715">[2]</a> for a review of the situation as well. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z-Jh12-2008-09-13T19:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T22:03:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Well, looks like <a href="/wiki/User:Chris_Wattson" title="User:Chris Wattson">User:Chris Wattson</a> has been blocked as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Sock puppetry">sock puppet</a>, so your suspicions had pretty good merit. Best, --<a href="/wiki/User:Jh12" title="User:Jh12">Jh12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jh12" title="User talk:Jh12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jh12-2008-09-13T22:03:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T22:03:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jh12-2008-09-13T22:03:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-13T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:KennethIScott" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z"></span>User:KennethIScott<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z-User:KennethIScott"></span>Thanks for taking care of that Template for me. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:KennethIScott" title="User:KennethIScott">KennethIScott</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KennethIScott" title="User talk:KennethIScott">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/KennethIScott" title="Special:Contributions/KennethIScott">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z-User:KennethIScott" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z-User:KennethIScott"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KennethIScott-2008-09-14T02:34:00.000Z-User:KennethIScott"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion.2FWikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland disambiguation task force">Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force"></span>Can I urge you to read through the taskforce and its subpage? A huge amount of work has gone into it, and I'm worried that passers-by might vote for its removal and really take Wikipedia backwards. It is the culmination of a huge amount of work after endless polling on the subject. At the moment Irish articles are locked, socks and IP abound (the worst its ever been) and the issue has never been more intensely debated. We simply need a taskforce to stop people insisting on closing down debate because it is taking over talk pages (as many threaten to do). The taskforce is simply essential on many levels, and "forum shopping" on its opening proposal is surely not a good reason to delete it. (and my new proposal was not 'forum shopping' either, that is just one view by a small group of people who have already voted against it). One admin has already approved of the taskforce, and very soon it will get a great deal of interest and support. --<a href="/wiki/User:Matt_Lewis" title="User:Matt Lewis">Matt Lewis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matt_Lewis" title="User talk:Matt Lewis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Ireland_disambiguation_task_force"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T03:10:00.000Z-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z"></span>The problem is that consensus has been 50/50 on this for years - this is a simply a chink of light. Plenty of debate and polling has gone on at IMOS (recently too), ROI, NI and WPI. It never ends (or stays in the same place), and at 50/50 the 'status quo' always remains. Ireland needs the taskforce desperately, and if someone didn't go ahead and "be bold" it may not have got the 60% that 50% of the stalwarts demand is needed. You have no idea how many people have turned away from this subject! The taskforce is the one thing that could bring them back - If I'm "shopping" for anything it is simply the people who have turned away in disillusion.--<a href="/wiki/User:Matt_Lewis" title="User:Matt Lewis">Matt Lewis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matt_Lewis" title="User talk:Matt Lewis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T03:10:00.000Z-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T03:10:00.000Z-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T03:10:00.000Z-Matt_Lewis-2008-09-15T02:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:AS_Aix.gif" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:AS_Aix.gif-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:AS_Aix.gif-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z"></span>Image:AS Aix.gif<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:AS_Aix.gif-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Latouffedisco-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z-Image:AS_Aix.gif"></span>Hi and thanks for pointing that, this image did work in the past, that's strange... So, I uploaded the same file again to fix it.--<a href="/wiki/User:Latouffedisco" title="User:Latouffedisco">Latouffedisco</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Latouffedisco" title="User talk:Latouffedisco">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Latouffedisco-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z-Image:AS_Aix.gif" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Latouffedisco-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z-Image:AS_Aix.gif"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Latouffedisco-2008-09-15T07:20:00.000Z-Image:AS_Aix.gif"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_Your_post" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Your_post-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Your_post-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z"></span>Re: Your post<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Your_post-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Haza-w-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z-Re:_Your_post"></span>Hey Suntag, and many thanks for the links. I had indeed seen the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ABF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ABF">WP:ABF</a> essay – in fact, I mentioned it in the essay header/disclaimer. However, the userbox is fairly amusing! I've never been one for userboxes myself, but I'll be sure to recommend it to people who share its views! See you around. <a href="/wiki/User:Haza-w" title="User:Haza-w"><b style="color:#FF0000;">haz</b></a> <span style="font-size:x-small;">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Haza-w" title="User talk:Haza-w">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Haza-w-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z-Re:_Your_post" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Haza-w-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z-Re:_Your_post"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Haza-w-2008-09-15T07:43:00.000Z-Re:_Your_post"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z"><span id="Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio.2FClean-up"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up (page does not exist)">Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up"></span>The page is created. It's basically a Reader's Digest of WP:PD. Generally, the Biographical Directory is pretty much worthless, so you'll want to look at, say, the Library of Congress, the NYPL Digital Gallery, etc. to find support for the "typical" PD tags. I don't expect the majority to be salvagable as either they won't be PD in the first place or we won't be able to find the information necessary to support a PD claim. <a href="/wiki/User:Elcobbola" title="User:Elcobbola"><font color="red"><i><b>Эlcobbola</b></i></font></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elcobbola" title="User talk:Elcobbola">talk</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z-Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio/Clean-up"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-16T06:58:00.000Z-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I'll take a look. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-16T06:58:00.000Z-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-16T06:58:00.000Z-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-16T06:58:00.000Z-Elcobbola-2008-09-15T19:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Visual_gallery_of_toucans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Visual_gallery_of_toucans-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Visual_gallery_of_toucans-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z"></span>Visual gallery of toucans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Visual_gallery_of_toucans-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z-Visual_gallery_of_toucans"></span>Thanks, but the point of the identificatin gallery is to enable you to find a species if you only know how it looks, and a category doesn't enable you to do that. <a href="/wiki/User:Nikola_Smolenski" title="User:Nikola Smolenski">Nikola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikola_Smolenski" title="User talk:Nikola Smolenski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z-Visual_gallery_of_toucans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z-Visual_gallery_of_toucans"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z-Visual_gallery_of_toucans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:36:00.000Z-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z"></span>There is also <a href="/wiki/Category:Image_galleries" title="Category:Image galleries">Category:Image galleries</a>. You are right, and it's not only field guides, as I said, and I was serious, I have never seen an encyclopedia that didn't have such galleries. I of course agree that not every assembly of random pictures is encyclopedic, but galleries of this type are. I wanted to start a discussion at Wikiproject Tree of Life about this but of course never had enough time...</dd> <dd>Things like Visual gallery of Pokemon wouldn't be an issue due to copyright and trademark concerns. <a href="/wiki/User:Nikola_Smolenski" title="User:Nikola Smolenski">Nikola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikola_Smolenski" title="User talk:Nikola Smolenski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:36:00.000Z-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:36:00.000Z-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:36:00.000Z-Nikola_Smolenski-2008-09-16T18:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Overlist_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overlist_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overlist_2"></span>Overlist<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overlist_2"></span></h2></div> <p>I transferred part of it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Irrelevant_Intersections_for_Lists" title="Wikipedia:Irrelevant Intersections for Lists">Wikipedia:Irrelevant Intersections for Lists</a>, as that part seems to be were everybody agreed. Please feel free to edit anything in it. <span style="color: #900009;">Bull</span><span style="color: #FFA500;">dog</span> 07:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC) </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerry" title="User talk:Jerry"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Suntag. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerry" title="User talk:Jerry">Jerry's talk page</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Suntag/Archive 1">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Archive_box_collapsible" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archive_box_collapsible-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Archive_box_collapsible-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z"></span>Archive box collapsible<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Archive_box_collapsible-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span>I've replied <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Archive_box_collapsible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:Archive box collapsible (page does not exist)">there</a>. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme" title="User talk:Everyme">Everyme</a></b></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:51:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z"></span>Let's keep it at the template talk page, so that other interested users who may have a similar question don't have to start looking in multiple places. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme" title="User talk:Everyme">Everyme</a></b></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:51:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:51:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:51:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T16:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:13:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span>Did my attempts at clarifying help you? <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme" title="User talk:Everyme">Everyme</a></b></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:13:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:13:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:13:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span>I've adjusted the template code at <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_shock_sites" title="Talk:List of shock sites">Talk:List of shock sites</a> to <code>{{Archive box collapsible|large=yes|auto=long}}</code>. The <code>|large=yes</code> option makes the template blend in better visually with standard talk page templates (80% page width). The <code>|auto=long</code> bit produces automatic (piped!) links to all subpages named in the pattern of Archive 1, Archive 2, etc. Another advantage is that you don't have to "update" the template code on the talk page. The auto option will automatically include every new archive subpage. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme" title="User talk:Everyme">Everyme</a></b></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z-Archive_box_collapsible"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:52:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z"></span>You're welcome. Also, please let me know if you have any suggestions on how to improve the template manual to make it clearer. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme" title="User talk:Everyme">Everyme</a></b></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:52:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:52:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:52:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everyme-2008-09-18T08:11:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Take a look at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme/archive_box" title="User talk:Everyme/archive box">User talk:Everyme/archive box</a>. You can test it on your talk page simply by replacing <code>{{/Welcome}}</code> at the top of your talk page with <code>{{User talk:Everyme/archive box}}</code>. If you like it, you can copy&paste the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Everyme/archive_box&action=edit">page code of User talk:Everyme/archive box</a> to your /Welcome subpage. The newly added Archive "portion" of the code does the same as <code>|auto=long</code> and you can also manually add other archive pages if you want (take a look at the code, I've inserted a marker to let you know where to manually add archive pages). <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everyme" title="User talk:Everyme">Everyme</a></b></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Everyme-2008-09-18T08:11:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everyme-2008-09-18T08:11:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everyme-2008-09-18T08:11:00.000Z-Everyme-2008-09-17T17:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_requests-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_requests-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z"></span>Bot requests<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_requests-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z-Bot_requests"></span>I've commented at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio.2FClean-up" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests">Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Template:PD-USGov-Congress-Bio.2FClean-up</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sam_Korn" title="User:Sam Korn">Sam Korn</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sam_Korn" title="User talk:Sam Korn">(smoddy)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z-Bot_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z-Bot_requests"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z-Bot_requests"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z"></span>I have improved the accuracy of the script. See <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sam_Korn/PD-USGov-Congress-Bio&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sam Korn/PD-USGov-Congress-Bio (page does not exist)">User:Sam Korn/PD-USGov-Congress-Bio</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sam_Korn" title="User:Sam Korn">Sam Korn</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sam_Korn" title="User talk:Sam Korn">(smoddy)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-18T13:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-19T16:55:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Sam. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-19T16:55:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-19T16:55:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-19T16:55:00.000Z-Sam_Korn-2008-09-19T16:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Votes_for_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Votes_for_Deletion-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Votes_for_Deletion-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z"></span>Votes for Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Votes_for_Deletion-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z-Votes_for_Deletion"></span>At the time that VfD was changed to AfD, there was a mass move of all VfD articles to AfD. Please don't revert that move without a consensus discussion. <span style="font-family:Comic sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:Corvus_cornix" title="User:Corvus cornix"><span style="color:green">Corvus cornix</span></a><sub><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Corvus_cornix" title="User talk:Corvus cornix"><span style="color:Green">talk</span></a></i></sub></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z-Votes_for_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z-Votes_for_Deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z-Votes_for_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the info. There only seemed to be VfD articles in the archives and the move notes didn't indicate the purpose of the move. I won't revert any VfD to AfD movements. Best. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z"></span>I've brought this up at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Suntag_moving_AfD_pages_to_VfD_pages_then_asking_for_deletions_of_redirects" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Suntag_moving_AfD_pages_to_VfD_pages_then_asking_for_deletions_of_redirects</a>. hopefully Admins can undo your moves. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Comic sans;"><a href="/wiki/User:Corvus_cornix" title="User:Corvus cornix"><span style="color:green">Corvus cornix</span></a><sub><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Corvus_cornix" title="User talk:Corvus cornix"><span style="color:Green">talk</span></a></i></sub></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Corvus_cornix-2008-09-19T01:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-19T01:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008.-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_September_15.2C_2008."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008.-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for September 15, 2008.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008.-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008."></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><font style="position: relative; 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ralbot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ralbot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ralbot-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2008-09-21T05:31:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_September_15,_2008."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toucan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toucan-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toucan-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z"></span>Toucan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toucan-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimfbleak-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z-Toucan"></span>Thanks for message, although I don't agree with with the merge suggestion. <a href="/wiki/User:Jimfbleak" title="User:Jimfbleak">jimfbleak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimfbleak" title="User talk:Jimfbleak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jimfbleak-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z-Toucan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimfbleak-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z-Toucan"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimfbleak-2008-09-21T06:47:00.000Z-Toucan"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK - Kamkaze-class destroyer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MChew-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer"></span>Thank you very much for the reminder. I have added the comment and reference as per the request. --<a href="/wiki/User:MChew" title="User:MChew">MChew</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MChew" title="User talk:MChew">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-MChew-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MChew-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MChew-2008-09-24T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_-_Kamkaze-class_destroyer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_2-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_2-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_2-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mitico-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z-Thanks_2"></span>Thanks for pointing out that the <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:BurnabyLakers.gif&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:BurnabyLakers.gif (page does not exist)">Image:BurnabyLakers.gif</a> upload was not working. I uploaded a new version so I think its fixed now. <a href="/wiki/User:Mitico" title="User:Mitico">Mitico</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mitico" title="User talk:Mitico">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mitico-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z-Thanks_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mitico-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z-Thanks_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mitico-2008-09-24T12:47:00.000Z-Thanks_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_24/9" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_24/9-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_24.2F9"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_24/9-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z"></span>DYK 24/9<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_24/9-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WBOSITG-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z-DYK_24/9"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/24_September" class="mw-redirect" title="24 September">24 September</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Acting_Sheriff" title="Acting Sheriff">Acting Sheriff</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:WBOSITG" title="User:WBOSITG"><font color="#666666"><b>weburiedoursecretsinthegarden</b></font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-WBOSITG-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z-DYK_24/9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WBOSITG-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z-DYK_24/9"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WBOSITG-2008-09-24T18:34:00.000Z-DYK_24/9"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Acting_Sheriff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Acting_Sheriff-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Acting_Sheriff-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Acting_Sheriff" title="Acting Sheriff">Acting Sheriff</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Acting_Sheriff-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zanimum-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff"></span>Major thumbs up for the article you wrote, it's a great resource, well-written and well-sourced. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Zanimum" title="User:Zanimum">Zanimum</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zanimum" title="User talk:Zanimum">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Zanimum-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zanimum-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zanimum-2008-09-25T14:27:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-29T12:07:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff"></span>My name is Ray Joseph Cormier and I approve of this message. Seriously, Suntag you did a great job on your first major contribution to Wikipedia. Seeing it, confirms my confidence you are the one to build the BLP within the parameters your initial interest discovered.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Peace <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-29T12:07:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-29T12:07:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-29T12:07:00.000Z-Acting_Sheriff"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z-Deletion_review"></span>Re: you notes about discussing the matter with the deleting admin first. I think if the "Before listing a review request" box information were moved into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV#Steps_to_list_a_new_deletion_review" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">Wikipedia:DRV#Steps_to_list_a_new_deletion_review</a> as item #1 (and renumber the steps as 2, 3, 4, etc.), people would follow it more often. In fact, a subst template should be made for this very purpose to make it easy to make such a request. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z-Deletion_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z-Deletion_review"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z-Deletion_review"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-2008-09-26T08:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z"></span>I got reverted when I did something like that a while back. <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle/wizard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Stifle/wizard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Stifle-2008-09-26T08:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-2008-09-26T08:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-2008-09-26T08:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-26T00:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman" data-mw-thread-id="h-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z"></span>DRV of Julius Pitzman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman"></span>Thanks for your comments. About "Importance or significance" vs "notability". WP:CSD says <i>to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable</i>. Therefore, I was using "notability asserted" as a convenient shorthand for edit summaries as I have seen that phrase used elsewhere when discussing A7. Maybe I should start using "IoS asserted". </p><p>As far as why I closed it. At the time I was going through the log, both me and the editor who nominated it "<a href="/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">User:TenPoundHammer</a>" were on #Wikipedia-en (IRC). Since he's also a non admin who closes AFDs I ask him for advise from time to time. When I'm reviewing one of his noms and the consensus appears to be "keep", if he's active on the channel, then out of courtesy I give him a chance to withdraw because he sometimes does that too when one of his noms is going "Keep". Instead he said "go ahead and close it" so I did since it already had been relisted once and the only delete vote wasn't really an argument for deletion. I had completely forgotten that I had earlier removed a speedy tag from the article and didn't realize it until last night when I was reviewing my past edits. </p><p>PS. It's only a coincidence that his last name is one letter removed from mine. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ron_Ritzman" title="User:Ron Ritzman">Ron Ritzman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ron_Ritzman" title="User talk:Ron Ritzman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-09-27T15:38:00.000Z-DRV_of_Julius_Pitzman"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="History_undelete" data-mw-thread-id="h-History_undelete-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-History_undelete-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z"></span>History undelete<span data-mw-comment-end="h-History_undelete-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z-History_undelete"></span>Hi Stifle. Would you please undelete the history of <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_big-bust_models_and_performers&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of big-bust models and performers (page does not exist)">List of big-bust models and performers</a> so that it may be better reviewed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_September_29" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 29">DRV</a>. Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z-History_undelete" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z-History_undelete"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z-History_undelete"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z"></span>It took nearly five minutes to run the deletion request earlier because there are so many revisions. I am not in a position to do it at the moment; I'm sure another admin will see the DRV request and do the history restore if they feel it's warranted. <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle/wizard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Stifle/wizard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-09-29T15:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z"></span>I've got the content from the most recent version at <a href="/wiki/User:Lifebaka/Sandbox/For_DRV" title="User:Lifebaka/Sandbox/For DRV">User:Lifebaka/Sandbox/For DRV</a>, you can see it there. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Lifebaka" title="User:Lifebaka"><i style="color:green;">lifebaka</i></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lifebaka" title="User talk:Lifebaka"><b>++</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z-Stifle-2008-09-29T16:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-09-30T00:59:00.000Z-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-09-30T00:59:00.000Z-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-09-30T00:59:00.000Z-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-09-30T00:59:00.000Z-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T00:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="This_is_a_ping!" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_is_a_ping!-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z"><span id="This_is_a_ping.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_is_a_ping!-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z"></span>This is a ping!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_is_a_ping!-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z-This_is_a_ping!"></span>I moved the stuff in my sandbox to <a href="/wiki/Template:Delrevafd" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Delrevafd">Template:Delrevafd</a>. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Lifebaka" title="User:Lifebaka"><i style="color:green;">lifebaka</i></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lifebaka" title="User talk:Lifebaka"><b>++</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z-This_is_a_ping!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z-This_is_a_ping!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lifebaka-2008-09-30T01:01:00.000Z-This_is_a_ping!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You_saw_it_here_first" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_saw_it_here_first-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You_saw_it_here_first-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z"></span>You saw it here first<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You_saw_it_here_first-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z-You_saw_it_here_first"></span>Suntag, </p><p>This is just a friendly notice since you involved yourself in the discussion of my biography in Wikipedia. </p><p>Finding my biography in Wikipedia two years after it existed, was a great and joyous surprise for me. It is in fact my first foray into the Public Domain in 11 years, since my last attempt at elective office. Everything I have contributed to this site, all the discussions with all the Administrators, is self published material in a public forum. </p><p>The mainline media, CNN in particular, is portraying the current economic crisis in Apocalyptic terms and totally unexpected. The record bares witness that on July 3, I made this statement in Ground Zero talk: </p><p><b>The global system is just entering the time when this line from Rev.18 will be seen and believed: And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buys their merchandise any more.</b> </p><p>This is precisely, exactly what the current financial crisis is all about. </p><p>Peace </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z-You_saw_it_here_first" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z-You_saw_it_here_first"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-09-30T06:22:00.000Z-You_saw_it_here_first"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Area_58" data-mw-thread-id="h-Area_58-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Area_58-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span>Area 58<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Area_58-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z-Area_58"></span>thanks for the kind comments actually Brisbane is better [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080413141721AA6g0z9">[3]</a>] </p><p>look all i can tell you is i used 15 references, it seems pretty factual to me but having 6 people stomp down 'hoax', can only lead me to conclude that 'the fix is in' when he says he did a 'google test' does he mean he did a 'keyword search' of the internet? and did he have to fast delete the article so it didn't appear near the top of google? </p><p>(when I refer to a spiked article at <a href="/wiki/Federation_of_American_Scientists" title="Federation of American Scientists">Federation of American Scientists</a>, by John Pike is that original?) (that is a good reference site for intelligence matters) the main references are <i>The US Intellegence Community</i>, <i>Deep Black</i>, 1985 NYTimes article, <i>InsideDefense</i>, google earth, there are some stray internet references that confirm details (i.e. FAS confirming the NRO classification of area 58) when you combine google area 58 and dceeta you get 3 pages of stuff. </p><p>I'll do it your way, but watch - what i say will happen - regardless of the NPOV or references; I'll write it all in quotes from the sources, and they'll say it's copyright. actually, i've succeeded in getting the deleted article on a google(the deleted article is still on the first page), 'hmm what's that about' </p><p>what they're doing is closing the barndoor, it's intellectually dishonest it is like the reclassification at the <a href="/wiki/National_Archives_and_Records_Administration" title="National Archives and Records Administration">National Archives and Records Administration</a>. sorry to go on, thanks again <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z-Area_58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z-Area_58"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z-Area_58"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span>hey Suntag check out the rewrite at my userpage <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z"></span>thanks for the work, those templates are fancy. wiki has a good article at <a href="/wiki/Open_source_intelligence" class="mw-redirect" title="Open source intelligence">open source intelligence</a>. I stole the 'hype' verbiage from the area 51 lead. I believe that it's NRO not MI (they're stovepiped and don't like each other) btw, some army sat dishes are 1/2 mile down the road (more recent additions, not in radome and outside perimeter) i believe this chat is correct (the pictures do tell the story)[<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/152455">[4]</a>]<a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-02T18:25:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z"></span>ok i think it's ready for prime time (i may get photo this weekend)<a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-04T15:07:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z"></span>thanks for the footnote work, i was gonna tighten up the y2k bit. i kinda like breaking up the paragraphs with a line break, and like having the 3 main sources at the bottom (so will put that back) It is too quote-y, but this is a direct response to the AfD discussion: hoax, original, not notable - cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-07T15:51:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z"></span>hey suntag get a load of the comment war over at <a href="/wiki/DCEETA" class="mw-redirect" title="DCEETA">DCEETA</a>, my prediction is coming true. <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) 14:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC) the DCEETA article is different from the Area 58 article, even though the sources are the same. why flag as previously deleted? are you now going to delete because of copyright, not original? <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-08T15:03:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z"></span>Area 58 and DCEETA are the same topic and it is common to note prior deletion discussions on talk pages. That way, people considering nominating DCEETA can see what happend in the past. Noting the prior deletion discussions makes it less likely that DCEETA will be listed at AfD since the reasons for the prior deletions have been overcome. You could return to DRV and request approval of moving the draft into article space, but you probably don't need to since that only addresses recreation of deleted material and the material you created is different from that which was deleted. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:13:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T17:37:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z"></span>thanks for the clarification, the novice might expect the opposite. do i need to be more civil on the talk page? ALR is evasive. btw are <a href="/wiki/User:TomStar810" title="User:TomStar810">user:TomStar810</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:ALR" title="User:ALR">user:ALR</a> in cahoots (meatpuppets?) check out <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ALR" title="User talk:ALR">user talk:ALR</a>------ <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-23T17:37:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T17:37:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T17:37:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-23T15:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Julius Pitzman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/1_October" class="mw-redirect" title="1 October">1 October</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Julius_Pitzman" title="Julius Pitzman">Julius Pitzman</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Case" title="User talk:Daniel Case">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Julius_Pitzman"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paul_Erik-2008-10-01T19:07:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z"></span>Suntag—thank you very much for making this nomination. All the best, <a href="/wiki/User:Paul_Erik" title="User:Paul Erik"><span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">Paul Erik</span></a> <small><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paul_Erik" title="User talk:Paul Erik"><span style="color:blue;">(talk)</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paul_Erik" title="Special:Contributions/Paul Erik"><span style="color:green;">(contribs)</span></a></sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Paul_Erik-2008-10-01T19:07:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paul_Erik-2008-10-01T19:07:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paul_Erik-2008-10-01T19:07:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-10-01T18:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Deletiondiscussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Deletiondiscussion-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Deletiondiscussion-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Deletiondiscussion" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Deletiondiscussion">Template:Deletiondiscussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Deletiondiscussion-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z-Template:Deletiondiscussion"></span>Hi, I noticed you've orphaned the redirect I created from <a href="/wiki/Template:Deletiondiscussion" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Deletiondiscussion">Template:Deletiondiscussion</a> to <a href="/wiki/Template:Deletion_discussion" title="Template:Deletion discussion">Template:Deletion discussion</a> (with a space) and tagged it for speedy deletion. I hope you won't mind me asking, but I'd be interested to know if you had some particular reason for doing that? —<a href="/wiki/User:Ilmari_Karonen" title="User:Ilmari Karonen">Ilmari Karonen</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ilmari_Karonen" title="User talk:Ilmari Karonen">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z-Template:Deletiondiscussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z-Template:Deletiondiscussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z-Template:Deletiondiscussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z"></span>While a valid typo, it didn't seem reasonable to me to maintain such a redirect since forgetting to add a space seemingly could apply to a huge number of templates. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z"></span>Well, the reason I created it was because most of the related templates don't have spaces, so having the redirect saves one from having to remember each time whether <i>this</i> template had spaces in its name or not. Plus, it saves a bit of typing and is more easily <a href="/wiki/User:Ilmari_Karonen/monobook.js" title="User:Ilmari Karonen/monobook.js">added to the edit toolbar</a> (which can handle spaces, but the syntax is obscure to say the least). It's not like redirects actually take any significant "maintaining" — in my experience, they stay put on their own quite well. :) —<a href="/wiki/User:Ilmari_Karonen" title="User:Ilmari Karonen">Ilmari Karonen</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ilmari_Karonen" title="User talk:Ilmari Karonen">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-01T21:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-01T22:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I probably should have looked up the template creator (you) and asked about a purpose behind the redirect. Sorry about that. I added the above info to the see also portion of <a href="/wiki/Template:Deletion_discussion" title="Template:Deletion discussion">Template:Deletion discussion</a> so that, hopefully, someone else won't make the same mistake. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-01T22:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-01T22:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-01T22:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-01T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Code_conudrum_-_helpplease" data-mw-thread-id="h-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z"></span>Code conudrum - helpplease<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease"></span>Hi, please revisit <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Rescue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Rescue (page does not exist)">Template:Rescue</a> and try to suss out how to keep this from being entered into the tagged category. Our bot is listing it as a AfD's article now. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Benjiboi" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Benjiboi"> -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj<span style="color:#FF4400;">e</span></u><u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<span style="color:#CC0000;">oi</span></u></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z-Code_conudrum_-_helpplease"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-02T00:21:00.000Z-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z"></span>OK. I'll take a look. Can you provide a link to out bot and a link to its being listed as a AfD's article now, Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-02T00:21:00.000Z-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-02T00:21:00.000Z-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-02T00:21:00.000Z-Benjiboi-2008-10-02T00:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Julius_Pitzman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Julius_Pitzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Julius_Pitzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Julius_Pitzman" title="Julius Pitzman">Julius Pitzman</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Julius_Pitzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z-Julius_Pitzman"></span>Nice to see this DYK on the front page today. I hope the article's creator sees it. I hope <a href="/wiki/User:Arbiteroftruth" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Arbiteroftruth">Arbiteroftruth</a> sees it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ron_Ritzman" title="User:Ron Ritzman">Ron Ritzman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ron_Ritzman" title="User talk:Ron Ritzman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z-Julius_Pitzman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z-Julius_Pitzman"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ron_Ritzman-2008-10-02T01:43:00.000Z-Julius_Pitzman"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toucans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toucans-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toucans-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z"></span>Toucans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toucans-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snowmanradio-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z-Toucans"></span>I think that it would be informative to have a list of toucans, which would be useful for anyone wishing to identify a toucan. Illustrative photographs may be reorganized along the lines of "List of macaws" (which covers several genuses) or List of Amazon parrots". <a href="/wiki/User:Snowmanradio" title="User:Snowmanradio">Snowman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snowmanradio" title="User talk:Snowmanradio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Snowmanradio-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z-Toucans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snowmanradio-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z-Toucans"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snowmanradio-2008-10-02T10:35:00.000Z-Toucans"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DCEETA_photo" data-mw-thread-id="h-DCEETA_photo-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DCEETA_photo-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z"></span>DCEETA photo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DCEETA_photo-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z-DCEETA_photo"></span>Hi Jeffq. Can you take some photos (signs, buildings, etc.) for <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue/DCEETA_(draft)" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dogue/DCEETA (draft)">User:Dogue/DCEETA (draft)</a>? Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z-DCEETA_photo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z-DCEETA_photo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z-DCEETA_photo"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z"></span>I don't know. Google Maps' satellite imagery suggests there's only one useful line-of-sight to the main building that isn't on Fort Belvoir property, and that doesn't seem likely to show very much, especially not a sign. More importantly, these folks don't sound like they want a photographer taking snaps of their facility, even from the road. It may seem silly, given that they don't seem to have restricted (or even blurred much) the satellite images available through Google, which are probably more revealing. But defense agencies are professionally paranoid. I think I'd at least want to call them first. And these days, it's generally not a good idea to make national-security organizations curious about you, however innocent your activities. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Jeffq" title="User:Jeffq">Jeff Q</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jeffq" title="User talk:Jeffq">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-02T23:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:59:00.000Z-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z"></span>did you like my dceeta photo? it says <i>Aerospace Data Facility East</i>, change of flag <a href="/wiki/User:Dogue" title="User:Dogue">Dogue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogue" title="User talk:Dogue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:59:00.000Z-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:59:00.000Z-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogue-2008-10-23T14:59:00.000Z-Jeffq-2008-10-03T10:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z"><span id="Template:Rebecca_.28or_User:Undream.29_AfDs"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z"></span>Template:Rebecca (or User:Undream) AfDs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"></span>You wrote on my talk: </p> <dl><dd>Hi Jerzy. Do you still have a need for <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Rebecca (or User:Undream) AfDs (page does not exist)">Template:Rebecca (or User:Undream) AfDs</a>? If not, please list it for deletion. Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-03T00:56:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"></span>No doubt your intentions are good, and i've no real idea it came about, but IMO your request implies confusion that could turn out to do unpredictable damage that might long be overlooked, and whose remediation would at best be onerous. <br/> AfD pages are preserved as permanent records and guarded against changes. The template is lk'd from several AfD pages, and its deletion would conceal the meaning of those pages, and unjustly make signed arguments outside the template seem illogical. A request by me for deletion might accomplish deletion without anyone else being guilty of more than carelessness, but IMO it would be a serious offense on my part. <br/> I'm also non-plussed by your apparent willingness to take up three editors' time for the sake of less than 1 kB of non-<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAPER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAPER">PAPER</a> in a relatively esoteric namespace. <br/>--<a href="/wiki/User:Jerzy" title="User:Jerzy">Jerzy</a>•<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerzy" title="User talk:Jerzy">t</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z-Template:Rebecca_(or_User:Undream)_AfDs"></span><br/> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T19:12:00.000Z-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z"></span>Thanks in return for yours. <br/> I think (as your arg suggests) that my original plan was as troubled as the problem it was trying to address (apparently, independently nominated arguably related pages, plus further arguably related pages so noted before nomination). I certainly didn't invent the practice of multi-page nominations, but i'm guessing i was unaware of anyone else so formally extending that (probably bad) practice to searching out others' pages to "draft" into a consolidated deletion debate. (I'd argue now that the information gained by setting pages side by side is more likely to function as an ad-hom argument -- in effect, "the nom'd article is less worthy bcz the same author has previously contributed deletable articles" -- than to bring out patterns that make the situation clearer.) <br/> FWIW, i think the philosophy behind making it a template was that others might add to the list; if i thot that far ahead, i must have figured it could be done harmlessly by signing & dating each addition (but that at least would have called for instructions i don't recall noticing this week). <br/> As to the present, if you're willing to carry the ball in defending modification of the relevant transcluding pages to subst'n -- as a means of guaranteeing inadvertent change of their renderings -- i agree that that conversion would meet the objections that i raised. (I don't recall why, but on somewhere between 1 and a handful of occasions when i've annotated a closed AfD page, without asking permission, to avoid a more dangerous problem. I don't go around advocating for that practice, but no one has complained yet, and in this case i won't be the one to complain!) I don't recall how orphaned templates get deleted, but i can't imagine any continuing purpose for this one once it's orphaned. <br/> Thanks for your attention. <br/>--<a href="/wiki/User:Jerzy" title="User:Jerzy">Jerzy</a>•<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerzy" title="User talk:Jerzy">t</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T19:12:00.000Z-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T19:12:00.000Z-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jerzy-2008-10-03T19:12:00.000Z-Jerzy-2008-10-03T11:17:00.000Z"></span><br/></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Kevin_Wu" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Kevin Wu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/3_October" class="mw-redirect" title="3 October">3 October</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Kevin_Wu" class="mw-redirect" title="Kevin Wu">Kevin Wu</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-03T16:39:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kevin_Wu"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reply" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reply-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reply-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z"></span>Reply<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reply-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L'Aquatique-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z-Reply"></span>Just wanted to let you know that I replied to your question at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Date" title="Template talk:Date">Template talk:Date</a>. <b>~</b> <a href="/wiki/User:L%27Aquatique" title="User:L'Aquatique"><font face="Georgia"><font color="#000"><b>L'Aquatique</b></font></font></a><font color="#a96dfc">[<font face="Monotype Corsiva"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:L%27Aquatique" title="User talk:L'Aquatique"><font color="#a96dfc">talk</font></a></font>]</font> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-L'Aquatique-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z-Reply" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L'Aquatique-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z-Reply"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L'Aquatique-2008-10-04T03:38:00.000Z-Reply"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RE_:_Template:Prod-tip" data-mw-thread-id="h-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z"></span>RE : Template:Prod-tip<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip"></span>Hi Suntag, yes please proceed to subst all of them. Thanks! - <i>Cheers</i>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mailer_diablo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mailer diablo">Mailer Diablo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z-RE_:_Template:Prod-tip"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T19:39:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z"></span>Thanks a lot for your assistance! The actual peer review will be going up soon, please feel free to drop by then if you have time to spare. :) - <i>Cheers</i>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mailer_diablo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mailer diablo">Mailer Diablo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T19:39:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T19:39:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T19:39:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-10-04T18:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Broken_edit?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Broken_edit?-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z"><span id="Broken_edit.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Broken_edit?-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z"></span>Broken edit?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Broken_edit?-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z-Broken_edit?"></span>Surely <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Pangelinan_Post&diff=prev&oldid=242994038">this</a> can't be right? —<a href="/wiki/User:Ilmari_Karonen" title="User:Ilmari Karonen">Ilmari Karonen</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ilmari_Karonen" title="User talk:Ilmari Karonen">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z-Broken_edit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z-Broken_edit?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z-Broken_edit?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-04T21:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizzaro_world">Bizarro World</a>, it might be. Until then, I fixed it. Thanks for the heads up. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-04T21:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-04T21:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-04T21:02:00.000Z-Ilmari_Karonen-2008-10-04T19:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_Communist_Is_You?" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Communist_Is_You?-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z"><span id="A_Communist_Is_You.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Communist_Is_You?-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z"></span>A Communist Is You?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Communist_Is_You?-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #dd0000;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NuclearWarfare-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z-A_Communist_Is_You?"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Red_barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Red_barnstar.png/100px-Red_barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Red_barnstar.png/150px-Red_barnstar.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Red_barnstar.png/200px-Red_barnstar.png 2x" data-file-width="300" data-file-height="300"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><font color="yellow"> <b>The Red Barnstar</b></font> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid yellow;"><font color="yellow">Nice idea of taking my comments and thinking up of an idea to email users to let them know about MfDs. Great idea! <a href="/wiki/User:NuclearWarfare" title="User:NuclearWarfare"><span style="color:#E52B50;">NuclearWarfare</span></a><i><b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:NuclearWarfare" title="User talk:NuclearWarfare"><sup style="color:green;">contact me</sup></a></b></i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NuclearWarfare" title="Special:Contributions/NuclearWarfare"><sub style="color:purple;">My work</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-NuclearWarfare-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z-A_Communist_Is_You?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</a></font><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NuclearWarfare-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z-A_Communist_Is_You?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NuclearWarfare-2008-10-04T21:42:00.000Z-A_Communist_Is_You?"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_tag-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_tag-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z"></span>Proposed tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_tag-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Moonriddengirl/Guide_to_image_deletion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Moonriddengirl/Guide to image deletion (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moonriddengirl-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z-Proposed_tag"></span>Thank you</a>. :) Hopefully it will bring more eyes. --<a href="/wiki/User:Moonriddengirl" title="User:Moonriddengirl">Moonriddengirl</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonriddengirl" title="User talk:Moonriddengirl">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Moonriddengirl-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z-Proposed_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonriddengirl-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z-Proposed_tag"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moonriddengirl-2008-10-06T20:54:00.000Z-Proposed_tag"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z-Question"></span>Hiya! Mmmm, can you explain <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Male_abortion&curid=19620778&diff=243816263&oldid=243554523">this</a> edit for me? I don't object to it (as the end result is the same) but I don't understand it and would like to. Thanks! :-) <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Fr33kman" title="User:Fr33kman"><span style="color:darkgreen;">fr33k</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman" title="User talk:Fr33kman"><span style="color:blue;">man</span></a> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fr33kman" class="extiw" title="simple:User:Fr33kman"><span style="color:darkgreen; font-size:x-small;">-s-</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z-Question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z"></span>AfDs are meant to have fixed text. Transcluded templates into an AfD allow changing the AfD after it is closed without changing the AfD history. On a different note, polling templates do not appear to have <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_September_12#Voting.2Fpolling_templates" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 September 12">a welcome history</a> in Wikipedia. Check <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Template%3AKeep">dis</a> out. Fixing the polling text means it will remain in the AfD after the polling template itself is deleted. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T04:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z"></span>Okay thanks. I started using it because we tend to use it over at <tt><a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="simple:">simple:</a></tt> quite a bit and I kind of like the graphics included in the {{support}} & {{oppose}} templates. Your explanation makes a lot of sense and I'll probably raise the point over at <tt>simple:</tt> also. I don't get <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Template%3AKeep">this</a> link however: what is it supposed to show? Cheers! <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Fr33kman" title="User:Fr33kman"><span style="color:darkgreen;">fr33k</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman" title="User talk:Fr33kman"><span style="color:blue;">man</span></a> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fr33kman" class="extiw" title="simple:User:Fr33kman"><span style="color:darkgreen; font-size:x-small;">-s-</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T04:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Template%3AKeep"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T12:15:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z"></span>This</a> link shows that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Keep">template:keep</a> was deleted in the past and may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G4" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G4">WP:G4</a> speedy deleted. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-08T12:15:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T12:15:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T12:15:00.000Z-Fr33kman-2008-10-08T05:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DRV_-_notifying_admin" data-mw-thread-id="h-DRV_-_notifying_admin-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DRV_-_notifying_admin-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z"></span>DRV - notifying admin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DRV_-_notifying_admin-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z-DRV_-_notifying_admin"></span>I added <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review%2FDiscussions&diff=243981637&oldid=241344513">this</a> to the suggestion in hopes of avoiding <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review%2FLog%2F2008_October_7&diff=243676536&oldid=243673689">this</a>. Best! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z-DRV_-_notifying_admin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z-DRV_-_notifying_admin"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z-DRV_-_notifying_admin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-2008-10-09T13:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I tend to check the deleting admin's talk page before asking the question, but that doesn't hurt either. <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle/wizard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Stifle/wizard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Stifle-2008-10-09T13:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-2008-10-09T13:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-2008-10-09T13:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-08T20:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CSD_R2" data-mw-thread-id="h-CSD_R2-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CSD_R2-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z"></span>CSD R2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CSD_R2-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z-CSD_R2"></span>I may have messed up. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Nu_Metal&action=edit&redlink=1">This</a> was from template namespace, not article namespace, so <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:R2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:R2">CSD R2</a> may not apply. See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2008_October_8#Template:User_Nu_Metal_.E2.86.92_User:Chanakal.2FUserbox.2FNu_Metal">this</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Redirects_from_the_article_space_R2">this</a>. Sorry for the confusion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z-CSD_R2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z-CSD_R2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z-CSD_R2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-2008-10-09T18:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z"></span>No big deal; the creator listed it for RFD so it's a G7 anyway. If folks want it back they can ask me. <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle/wizard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Stifle/wizard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Stifle-2008-10-09T18:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-2008-10-09T18:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-2008-10-09T18:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-09T17:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Featured Sounds and the Main Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page"></span>Well, let's move it forwards: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Featured_sounds_on_the_main_page" title="Talk:Main Page">Talk:Main_Page#Featured_sounds_on_the_main_page</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposal#Featured_sounds" title="Wikipedia talk:2008 main page redesign proposal">Wikipedia_talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposal#Featured_sounds</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Shoemaker%27s_Holiday" title="User:Shoemaker's Holiday">Shoemaker's Holiday</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shoemaker%27s_Holiday" title="User talk:Shoemaker's Holiday">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z-Featured_Sounds_and_the_Main_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T16:13:00.000Z-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Hmm. Not a bad start, though I think I'll need to tweak those templates, because Howcheng told me about some problems with them tat would make them almost useless for the multi-part featured sounds. I'm not bad with templating, so I'll work on it today. <a href="/wiki/User:Shoemaker%27s_Holiday" title="User:Shoemaker's Holiday">Shoemaker's Holiday</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shoemaker%27s_Holiday" title="User talk:Shoemaker's Holiday">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T16:13:00.000Z-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T16:13:00.000Z-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T16:13:00.000Z-Shoemaker's_Holiday-2008-10-12T14:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Opal_Koboi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Opal_Koboi-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Opal_Koboi-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z"></span>Opal Koboi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Opal_Koboi-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi"></span>Nice job on the article! Almost too many cites for readability. Someone needs to write some guidelines on "too many [] per sentence". But certainly shows notability... Nice.... <a href="/wiki/User:Hobit" title="User:Hobit">Hobit</a> 04:53 15 October 2008 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Thanks. Someone should contact the reliable sources and tell them that they need to write their material in a way that Wikipedia doesn't have to use multiple references to put together a sourced sentence in its articles. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z"></span>*Laugh*. Like I said, nice job! <a href="/wiki/User:Hobit" title="User:Hobit">Hobit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hobit" title="User talk:Hobit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-15T12:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-15T15:03:00.000Z-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z"></span>Thanks again. And good job snagging the Hobit user name. On seeing it, a lot of people probably wish they had selected that user name. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-15T15:03:00.000Z-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-15T15:03:00.000Z-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-15T15:03:00.000Z-Hobit-2008-10-15T14:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hobit-2008-10-15T16:54:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi"></span>And thanks for the box! The name is actually a play on my real name, but I was pleased to grab it...<a href="/wiki/User:Hobit" title="User:Hobit">Hobit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hobit" title="User talk:Hobit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hobit-2008-10-15T16:54:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hobit-2008-10-15T16:54:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hobit-2008-10-15T16:54:00.000Z-Opal_Koboi"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sorry!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sorry!-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z"><span id="Sorry.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sorry!-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z"></span>Sorry!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sorry!-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z-Sorry!"></span>Although creating a website here on wikipedia was a friends idea, I am still the one to blame. I should have stood up and said NO, I WILL NOT CREATE A WEBSITE FOR YOU ON WIKIPEDIA. I am very sorry for my actions there and would <i><b>HATE</b></i> to be blocked. I love wikipedia so much. If I were blocked, I would... well let's not go there. Once again I am sorry and I will never do anything related to that again. Thank you for reading this, even hough I sound like a 10 year old begging for candy or something. <a href="/wiki/User:EntertainU" title="User:EntertainU">entertainU</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EntertainU" title="User talk:EntertainU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-EntertainU-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z-Sorry!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z-Sorry!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EntertainU-2008-10-16T00:15:00.000Z-Sorry!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Rfd_starter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Rfd_starter-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Rfd_starter-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z"></span>Template:Rfd starter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Rfd_starter-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z-Template:Rfd_starter"></span>Hi Suntag. I have responded to your question over at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Documentation#Template:Rfd_starter" title="Template talk:Documentation">Template talk:Documentation#Template:Rfd starter</a>. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Davidgothberg" title="User:Davidgothberg">David Göthberg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidgothberg" title="User talk:Davidgothberg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidgothberg-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z-Template:Rfd_starter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidgothberg-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z-Template:Rfd_starter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidgothberg-2008-10-17T01:21:00.000Z-Template:Rfd_starter"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z"><span id="Template:ReaderFeedback.2FPreload"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload (page does not exist)">Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload"></span>Thanks for the heads up. I've deleted it. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Superm401-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2008-10-17T09:17:00.000Z-Template:ReaderFeedback/Preload"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gallery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gallery-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gallery-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z"></span>Gallery<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gallery-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z-Gallery"></span>There is documentation at <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Gallery" title="Template:Gallery">gallery</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. I wouldn't work with new images right now, the sever went down a while ago. <a href="/wiki/User:ChyranandChloe" title="User:ChyranandChloe">ChyranandChloe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChyranandChloe" title="User talk:ChyranandChloe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z-Gallery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z-Gallery"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z-Gallery"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:54:00.000Z-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z"></span>Wikimedia resizes and compresses the images for you, that's why they tell you to upload as high or a resolution as possible. The severs went down several hours ago and I think I caught that it was the image server on the IRCs, if it doesn't work tommorow then we should look into it. <a href="/wiki/User:ChyranandChloe" title="User:ChyranandChloe">ChyranandChloe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChyranandChloe" title="User talk:ChyranandChloe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:54:00.000Z-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:54:00.000Z-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:54:00.000Z-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-18T22:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Erythema_multiforme" data-mw-thread-id="h-Erythema_multiforme-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Erythema_multiforme-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z"></span>Erythema multiforme<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Erythema_multiforme-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfdwolff-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z-Erythema_multiforme"></span>I agree that some of the photos on the EM article are not very illustrative. The bottom two seem consistent with EM, but the three at the top look much more like urticaria and should probably be removed. <a href="/wiki/User:Jfdwolff" title="User:Jfdwolff">JFW</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfdwolff" title="User talk:Jfdwolff"><small>T@lk</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jfdwolff-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z-Erythema_multiforme" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfdwolff-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z-Erythema_multiforme"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfdwolff-2008-10-19T02:07:00.000Z-Erythema_multiforme"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_Discussion-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_Discussion-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z"></span>ANI Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_Discussion-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z-ANI_Discussion"></span>Hi again, Suntag! I saw your new message and wanted to tell you I stopped doing that kind of stuff when I apoligized for my disruptive behavior. I also want to tell you that I was just adopted today by Addshore. I'm sure he'll do great being my adopter. I'm not going to do those things anymore, as I said in my apoligy. Please don't block me. I love wikipedia sooo much. Thank You for your concern, and feel free to contact me at anytime. <a href="/wiki/User:EntertainU" title="User:EntertainU">entertainU</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EntertainU" title="User talk:EntertainU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-EntertainU-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z-ANI_Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z-ANI_Discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EntertainU-2008-10-19T15:35:00.000Z-ANI_Discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_ANI_thread" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_ANI_thread-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_ANI_thread-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z"></span>Re: ANI thread<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_ANI_thread-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gogo_Dodo-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z-Re:_ANI_thread"></span>Re <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gogo_Dodo&diff=246446642&oldid=246235773">your message</a>: I didn't understand what issue you are trying to bring attention to with that ANI thread. Can you please explain what you are trying to say on the ANI thread? I replied there. Thank you. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gogo_Dodo" title="User:Gogo Dodo">Gogo Dodo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gogo_Dodo" title="User talk:Gogo Dodo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Gogo_Dodo-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z-Re:_ANI_thread" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gogo_Dodo-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z-Re:_ANI_thread"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gogo_Dodo-2008-10-20T07:02:00.000Z-Re:_ANI_thread"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Image:Batman - The Long Halloween 11 pg15.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Greb-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg"></span>Should be working now... looks like the image fell off the database somehow. - <a href="/wiki/User:J_Greb" title="User:J Greb">J Greb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Greb" title="User talk:J Greb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-J_Greb-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Greb-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Greb-2008-10-20T22:31:00.000Z-Image:Batman_-_The_Long_Halloween_11_pg15.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ARE_YOU_THERE?" data-mw-thread-id="h-ARE_YOU_THERE?-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z"><span id="ARE_YOU_THERE.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ARE_YOU_THERE?-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z"></span>ARE YOU THERE?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ARE_YOU_THERE?-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z-ARE_YOU_THERE?"></span>You haven't responded to any messages including mine in a long time. Alot of users are still expecting messages from you. <a href="/wiki/User:EntertainU" title="User:EntertainU">'''[[User:EntertainU|i·am·entertainU]]''' <sup> [[User_talk:EntertainU|drop me a line]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/EntertainU|C<small>ontribs</small>]]</sub></font></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EntertainU" title="User talk:EntertainU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z-ARE_YOU_THERE?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z-ARE_YOU_THERE?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z-ARE_YOU_THERE?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-21T02:36:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z"></span>What message of yours are you referring to? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-21T02:36:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-21T02:36:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-21T02:36:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-21T02:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Halloween_box" data-mw-thread-id="h-Halloween_box-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Halloween_box-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z"></span>Halloween box<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Halloween_box-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otherlleft-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z-Halloween_box"></span>Thank you for that!--<a href="/wiki/User:Otherlleft" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Otherlleft">otherlleft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otherlleft" title="User talk:Otherlleft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Otherlleft-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z-Halloween_box" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otherlleft-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z-Halloween_box"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otherlleft-2008-10-21T03:37:00.000Z-Halloween_box"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Speedy deletion nomination of <a href="/wiki/File:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg" title="File:Cuyahoga 1974.jpg">Image:Cuyahoga 1974.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg"></span>I'm very confused by why you've added this. It's clearly labeled as {{<a href="/wiki/Template:PD-USGov-Military" title="Template:PD-USGov-Military">PD-USGov-Military</a>}}. It's also discussed on the talk page. Am I missing something? <a href="/wiki/User:Toddst1" title="User:Toddst1">Toddst1</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toddst1" title="User talk:Toddst1">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Image:Cuyahoga_1974.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Although {{<a href="/wiki/Template:PD-USGov-Military" title="Template:PD-USGov-Military">PD-USGov-Military</a>}} provides the copyright status, the image has no source information. Source information must be provided so that the copyright status can be verified by others. The source information was requested 23:07, 19 November 2007 and the request removed without the source information provided. You need to provide a URL link or some other source identifying information that is specific enought to allow the copyright status can be verified by others. Saying it is from the U.S. Government is not specific enought to allow the copyright status to be verified by others. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z-Toddst1-2008-10-21T16:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z"></span>Good to know. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Toddst1" title="User:Toddst1">Toddst1</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toddst1" title="User talk:Toddst1">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toddst1-2008-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-21T16:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256396942"> </p> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toddst1" title="User talk:Toddst1"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Suntag. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toddst1" title="User talk:Toddst1">Toddst1's talk page</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Suntag/Archive 1">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="This_Message" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_Message-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_Message-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z"></span>This Message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_Message-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z-This_Message"></span>I was reffering to this message below: </p> <dl><dd>Hi again, Suntag! I saw your new message and wanted to tell you I stopped doing that kind of stuff when I apoligized for my disruptive behavior. I also want to tell you that I was just adopted today by Addshore. I'm sure he'll do great being my adopter. I'm not going to do those things anymore, as I said in my apoligy. Please don't block me. I love wikipedia sooo much. Thank You for your concern, and feel free to contact me at anytime.</dd></dl> <p>Thanks and Happy editing! --<a href="/wiki/User:EntertainU" title="User:EntertainU">i-am-entertainU</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EntertainU" title="User talk:EntertainU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z-This_Message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z-This_Message"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z-This_Message"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-22T19:53:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z"></span>That message didn't seem that it requested a reply. I did reference in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=246305787">my post</a> at the then open ANI thread. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-22T19:53:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 22 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-22T19:53:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-22T19:53:00.000Z-EntertainU-2008-10-22T02:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Baracky" data-mw-thread-id="h-Baracky-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Baracky-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Baracky" class="mw-redirect" title="Baracky">Baracky</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Baracky-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TenPoundHammer-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z-Baracky"></span>I think you used the wrong rationale for this page. This has nothing to do with Barack Obama but rather with an anime character. <a href="/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer"><span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span></a> and his otters • <sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer" title="Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer">Broken clamshells</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">Otter chirps</a> • <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TenPoundHammer/Country&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TenPoundHammer/Country (page does not exist)">HELP</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-TenPoundHammer-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z-Baracky" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TenPoundHammer-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z-Baracky"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TenPoundHammer-2008-10-25T03:10:00.000Z-Baracky"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll" data-mw-thread-id="h-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z"></span>Main page redesing proposal Straw poll<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll"></span>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:2008_main_page_redesign_proposal/straw_poll_2008-10-18" title="Wikipedia:2008 main page redesign proposal/straw poll 2008-10-18">Main Page Redesign proposal</a> is currently conducting a straw poll in selecting five proposals. I thought you might be interested. <a href="/wiki/User:ChyranandChloe" title="User:ChyranandChloe">ChyranandChloe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChyranandChloe" title="User talk:ChyranandChloe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChyranandChloe-2008-10-25T23:29:00.000Z-Main_page_redesing_proposal_Straw_poll"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_for_the_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_the_help-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_the_help-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_the_help-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_help"></span>And thanks for the useful picture addition to the article. That makes a difficult subject a little bit easier. All the best. <a href="/wiki/User:Americanlinguist" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Americanlinguist">Americanlinguist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Americanlinguist" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Americanlinguist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_help"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_help"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T18:51:00.000Z-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z"></span>PS the 'nonsense' tag has been replaced, why? <a href="/wiki/User:Americanlinguist" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Americanlinguist">Americanlinguist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Americanlinguist" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Americanlinguist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T18:51:00.000Z-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T18:51:00.000Z-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T18:51:00.000Z-Americanlinguist-2008-10-26T08:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z"><span id="Orphaned_non-free_media_.28Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned non-free media (Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BJBot-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_blue.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/25px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="22" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/38px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/50px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></a></span> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG (page does not exist)">Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG</a></b>. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FU">claim of fair use</a>. However, it is currently <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Orphan" title="Wikipedia:Orphan">orphaned</a>, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">You may add it back</a> if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">our policy for non-free media</a>). </p><p>If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Suntag/Archive_1" title="Special:Contributions/Suntag/Archive 1">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any <b>articles</b> will be deleted after seven days, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:BJBot" title="User:BJBot">BJBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BJBot" title="User talk:BJBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BJBot-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BJBot-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BJBot-2008-10-27T05:37:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:ZitsComicStrip20070913.PNG)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z"><span id="Template:User:ZoRCoCuK.2FCyprus"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z"></span>Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus"></span>Hi ZoRCoCuK. I moved the page "Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus" to "<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus (page does not exist)">User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus</a>" and revised your user page to reflect this move. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z-Template:User:ZoRCoCuK/Cyprus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ZoRCoCuK-2008-10-27T07:54:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z"></span>Ok, thanks for everything. May it be easy... <a href="/wiki/User:ZoRCoCuK" title="User:ZoRCoCuK"><b><font color="cyan">*** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***</font></b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZoRCoCuK" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:ZoRCoCuK"><font color="orange"> ...and</font><font color="red"> his</font><font color="brown"> friends</font><b></b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ZoRCoCuK-2008-10-27T07:54:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZoRCoCuK-2008-10-27T07:54:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ZoRCoCuK-2008-10-27T07:54:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-25T19:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mass_deletion_nominations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mass_deletion_nominations-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mass_deletion_nominations-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z"></span>Mass deletion nominations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mass_deletion_nominations-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z-Mass_deletion_nominations"></span>Could you please scale down on the nominations. If you nominate a band and it is deleted, then you can have the albums and members easily speedied by referring to the band AFD unless the members played in other bands as well. That saves everyone a whole lot of time. Also, I would prefer if you gave a little more detailed nomination so people can see you made an effort to find sources apart from just googling. (Mention some specific sources you found and say why they are not reliable, that sort of thing). - <a href="/wiki/User:MacGyverMagic" title="User:MacGyverMagic">Mgm</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MacGyverMagic" title="User talk:MacGyverMagic"><sup>(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z-Mass_deletion_nominations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z-Mass_deletion_nominations"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z-Mass_deletion_nominations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-27T14:37:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the feedback. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-27T14:37:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-27T14:37:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-27T14:37:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-10-27T10:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z"></span>List of United States presidents by handedness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lampman-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness"></span>Thanks, it's already been listed at DYK, so hopefully the AfD will be over in time. <a href="/wiki/User:Lampman" title="User:Lampman">Lampman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lampman" title="User talk:Lampman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Lampman-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lampman-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lampman-2008-10-28T10:34:00.000Z-List_of_United_States_presidents_by_handedness"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="XfD_warning_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-XfD_warning_templates-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-XfD_warning_templates-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span>XfD warning templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-XfD_warning_templates-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z-XfD_warning_templates"></span>Hi<br/>Following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Bugs#TW-B-219_(closed)" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Bugs">WT:Twinkle/Bugs#TW-B-219 (closed)</a> I undid some of your changes <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&offset=20081002152000&target=Suntag&limit=12">from here</a>, since the templates <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:AFDWarning" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:AFDWarning">AFDWarning</a>}}</code> and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:MFDWarning" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:MFDWarning">MFDWarning</a>}}</code> are both used by Twinkle which at the moment automatically adds a signature after the warning. That could have been fixed there, but since it had already been removed from <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Adw" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Adw">Adw</a>}}</code> and both <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Afd1" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Afd1">afd1</a>}}</code> and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Mfd1" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Mfd1">mfd1</a>}}</code> still instructed to manually add the signatures (and so did <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TFD">WP:TFD</a> FWIW) I removed the automatic signatures from the warning templates again.<br/>Also, I for one often enjoy the ability to add some personalized text to AfD warnings whenever I add one manually, which is more difficult with the automatic signature.<br/>I hope that's OK. I wouldn't mind a concerted effort to make them all consistent though, one way or the other (the RFD notice and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Idw" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Idw">idw</a>}}</code> still have automatic sigs). Cheers, <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Amalthea" title="User:Amalthea"><span style="color:#823824">Amalthea</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amalthea" title="User talk:Amalthea">Talk</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z-XfD_warning_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z-XfD_warning_templates"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z-XfD_warning_templates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span>I find it amusing BTW that you, too, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Justmeherenow&diff=prev&oldid=248089984">fell victim to the duplicate sigs</a> and were one of the first to have <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dann_Chinn&diff=prev&oldid=248410271">uesed the changed version</a>. :) --<span style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Amalthea" title="User:Amalthea"><span style="color:#823824">Amalthea</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amalthea" title="User talk:Amalthea">Talk</a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:05:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z"></span>I'm just glad that my antics could bring some joy into your life. : ) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:05:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:05:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:05:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:04:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span>No problem. Some of the XfD warning templates carried ~~~~ with them and others required the user to add ~~~~ to the transclusion. At the time, it seemed more efficient to include ~~~~ with the templates. However, on using both methods, I think omitting ~~~~ from the XfD templates is best because most people expect to add ~~~~ after their posts. I had low priority planned to remove ~~~~ from the XfD warning template transclusions, but never got around to it. All the XfD warning templates should be somewhere in <a href="/wiki/Category:Deletion_templates" title="Category:Deletion templates">Category:Deletion templates</a>. Please feel free to make all XfD warning templates consistent. In fact, it might be possible to have just one XfD warning template by adding a parameter to locate the XfD. I think if you put all the XfD templates on one sandbox page, you could that comparision to create a wording that would apply to all XfDs. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:04:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:04:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T16:04:00.000Z-Amalthea-2008-10-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Milk_and_Alcohol"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Milk_and_Alcohol"-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z"><span id=".22Milk_and_Alcohol.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Milk_and_Alcohol"-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z"></span>"<a href="/wiki/Milk_and_Alcohol" title="Milk and Alcohol">Milk and Alcohol</a>"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Milk_and_Alcohol"-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z-"Milk_and_Alcohol""></span>Cracking good work on this relatively new article ! It puts my initial effort well into the shade - very well done. One small caution though on formatting (as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style">Wikipedia:Manual of Style</a>). Song titles should be represented in quotation marks eg. "<a href="/wiki/Milk_and_Alcohol" title="Milk and Alcohol">Milk and Alcohol</a>"; and album titles in italics eg. <i><a href="/wiki/Be_Seeing_You" title="Be Seeing You">Be Seeing You</a></i>. Can I expect more welcomed input on other <a href="/wiki/Dr._Feelgood_(band)" title="Dr. Feelgood (band)">Dr. Feelgood</a> related articles in the future ? Many thanks, either way, <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z-"Milk_and_Alcohol"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z-"Milk_and_Alcohol""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z-"Milk_and_Alcohol""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z"></span>I'm lost when it comes to italics and quotes. I revised the article per your comment above. My participation in Milk and Alcohol was more of a random thing. It was interesting seeing how the song's impact changed over time, however. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z-Derek_R_Bullamore-2008-10-29T19:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Interesting cover - Is it the US issue?<br/>Tony Moon's book "Down by the Jetty" clearly states the sleeve was "based on a bottle of the alcoholic tipple Kahlua" (P66) and that it was "Available in black, brown & white vinyl with matching PS" (P122)<br/> The Feelgoods website <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.drfeelgood.de/fg_dick.htm">[5]</a> has an entire entry on Kahlua, which gives the story behind the song, and also states the sleeve was based on a bottle of Kahlua.<br/> Difficult to put this in the article, when the sleeve shown is clearly not Kahlua!<br/><a href="/wiki/User:Arjayay" title="User:Arjayay">Arjayay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjayay" title="User talk:Arjayay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 30 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-29T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z"></span>The cover you uploaded shows a photo of the band in <a href="/wiki/The_Prisoner" title="The Prisoner">The Prisoner</a> blazers and scarves, similar to those used to promote the <a href="/wiki/Be_Seeing_You" title="Be Seeing You">Be Seeing You</a> album. This is strange, as this was the previous album, to <a href="/wiki/Private_Practice" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Private Practice">Private Practice</a>, on which <a href="/wiki/Milk_and_Alcohol" title="Milk and Alcohol">Milk and Alcohol</a> appears. Unfortunately, I can't find a copy of the single's Kahlua sleeve, to explain the story and vinyl colours.<br/> PS The World-Cat link you left is for the 1997 1st edition of the book, a second, revised and updated edition was issued in 2002 - I own both (page references above are from the 2002 edition), so I'm obviously what we call an <a href="/wiki/Anorak_(slang)" title="Anorak (slang)">anorak</a>, but I've been following the band since <a href="/wiki/Stupidity_(Dr._Feelgood_album)" title="Stupidity (Dr. Feelgood album)">Stupidity</a> in 1976<br/><a href="/wiki/User:Arjayay" title="User:Arjayay">Arjayay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjayay" title="User talk:Arjayay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T09:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T16:25:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span>Found the original - have replaced your cover with this, and referred to the vinyl and sleeve colours. This leaves your original cover picture "orphaned" - we could add it as a second cover, but really need to know where and when it was issued - the site you found it on was Dutch - maybe there was a problem with using the Kahlua bottle?<br/><a href="/wiki/User:Arjayay" title="User:Arjayay">Arjayay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjayay" title="User talk:Arjayay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T16:25:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T16:25:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjayay-2008-10-30T16:25:00.000Z-Arjayay-2008-10-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikimedia_Commons" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikimedia_Commons-2008-10-30T02:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikimedia_Commons-2008-10-30T02:52:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons">Wikimedia Commons</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikimedia_Commons-2008-10-30T02:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OsamaK-2008-10-30T02:52:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Commons"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:To_Commons.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/To_Commons.svg/50px-To_Commons.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/To_Commons.svg/75px-To_Commons.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/To_Commons.svg/100px-To_Commons.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="913" data-file-height="913"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Thank you for uploading images/media to Wikipedia! 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:OsamaK" title="User:OsamaK">O</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:OsamaK" title="User talk:OsamaK">sama</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/OsamaK" title="Special:Contributions/OsamaK">K</a><sup>Reply? on my <a href="/wiki/User_talk:OsamaK" title="User talk:OsamaK">talk page</a>, please</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-OsamaK-2008-10-30T02:56:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OsamaK-2008-10-30T02:56:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OsamaK-2008-10-30T02:56:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:WhiteHouseTheCatintheHat2003.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Candy pumpkin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gatoclass-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/31_October" class="mw-redirect" title="31 October">31 October</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Candy_pumpkin" title="Candy pumpkin">Candy pumpkin</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Gatoclass" title="User:Gatoclass">Gatoclass</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gatoclass" title="User talk:Gatoclass">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Gatoclass-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gatoclass-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gatoclass-2008-10-31T09:44:00.000Z-DYK_for_Candy_pumpkin"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DR_6_nebula" data-mw-thread-id="h-DR_6_nebula-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DR_6_nebula-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"></span>DR 6 nebula<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DR_6_nebula-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z-DR_6_nebula"></span>(from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BorgQueen&oldid=248844882#DR_6_nebula">here</a>) Any chance of using <a href="/wiki/File:GalacticGhoul.gif" title="File:GalacticGhoul.gif">Image:GalacticGhoul.gif</a> instead of <a href="/wiki/File:DR6nebula.jpg" title="File:DR6nebula.jpg">Image:DR6nebula.jpg</a> on the Main Page at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know/Next_update" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Did you know/Next update">Template:Did you know/Next update</a>? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z-DR_6_nebula" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z-DR_6_nebula"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z-DR_6_nebula"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"></span>Ahm, I don't think so. It is an altered image, and we have to show the actual nebula. I am sure people will check it out when they click to read the article. --<a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z"></span>So, basically, there is a chance of using GalacticGhoul.gif on the Main Page, but that chance just happens to be zero? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T16:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Let's say I am not in favor of it. The Main Page is a sensitive place in many ways. Why do you want to use the altered image anyway? --<a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:29:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z"></span>It's not that big of deal and my 18:10, 31 October 2008 post above we meant more of as a joke. Using the flashing Happy Halloween GalacticGhoul.gif on the Main Page probably would bring some objections. Also, the image would be appropriate if there were an article having as its main topic the flashing Happy Halloween GalacticGhoul.gif, which DR 6 nebula is not as you mentioned above. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:29:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:29:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T18:29:00.000Z-BorgQueen-2008-10-31T18:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Great_work_deserves_praise" data-mw-thread-id="h-Great_work_deserves_praise-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Great_work_deserves_praise-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Great work deserves praise<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Great_work_deserves_praise-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z-Great_work_deserves_praise"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png/100px-Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">In appreciation of your excellent editorial contributions to <a href="/wiki/Vienna_Fingers" title="Vienna Fingers">Vienna Fingers</a>. Keep up the grand work! <a href="/wiki/User:Ecoleetage" title="User:Ecoleetage">Ecoleetage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecoleetage" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ecoleetage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z-Great_work_deserves_praise" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z-Great_work_deserves_praise"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z-Great_work_deserves_praise"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Wow! Thanks so much. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T23:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z"></span>And <b>thank you</b> for nominating the article for DYK. I was in the process of putting together a DYK nomination that would've included both of us...and you got their first! My goodness, great minds think alike! :) <a href="/wiki/User:Ecoleetage" title="User:Ecoleetage">Ecoleetage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecoleetage" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ecoleetage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T23:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T23:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecoleetage-2008-10-31T23:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-10-31T20:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Scalar_implicature" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Scalar implicature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/1_November" class="mw-redirect" title="1 November">1 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Scalar_implicature" title="Scalar implicature">Scalar implicature</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-01T15:06:00.000Z-DYK_for_Scalar_implicature"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Valued_images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Valued_images-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Valued_images-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Valued_images" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Valued images">Wikipedia:Valued images</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Valued_images-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elucidate-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Valued_images"></span>Let me elucidate (excuse the pun). Firstly, this is not a 'Valued image WikiProject'. It is a department similar to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_peer_review" title="Wikipedia:Picture peer review">Wikipedia:Picture peer review</a>, and is based on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FP">WP:FP</a>. In response to your message, the department has already been proposed at the Village Pump twice, where it was approved both times. Support fro this project <i>has already</i> been gauged. It was also discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_pictures" title="Wikipedia talk:Featured pictures">Wikipedia_talk:Featured pictures</a>, where it was met with a vote of approval. It was developed over a period of several weeks, and then lay dormant due to the initiation of a similar proect on Wikimedia Commons. The design and setup is already underway, and is scheduled to open for nominations. In fact, the entirety of the valued images department, from templates to categories to the most basic criteria and guidelines, is completed and ready to be initiated. Several administrators have been notified of the existence of VP, as have frequent FP and FPC editors and nominators. The signpost has been contacted, as you have seen, as has WikiProject Photography. An illustraor, LadyofHats, has been asked to design a personalized seal for Wikipedia VP. I'd say consensus has been accheived. <a href="/wiki/User:Elucidate" title="User:Elucidate">Elucidate</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elucidate" title="User talk:Elucidate"><i>parlez à moi</i></a>)</sup> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elucidate" title="Special:Contributions/Elucidate"><i>Ici pour humor</i></a> </small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Elucidate-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Valued_images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elucidate-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Valued_images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elucidate-2008-11-02T15:38:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Valued_images"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z"><span id="Orphaned_non-free_media_.28Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned non-free media (Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BJBot-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_blue.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/25px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="22" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/38px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/50px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></a></span> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG (page does not exist)">Image:TheRecyclerLogo.PNG</a></b>. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FU">claim of fair use</a>. However, it is currently <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Orphan" title="Wikipedia:Orphan">orphaned</a>, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">You may add it back</a> if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">our policy for non-free media</a>). </p><p>If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:BJBot" title="User:BJBot">BJBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BJBot" title="User talk:BJBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BJBot-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BJBot-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BJBot-2008-11-03T05:26:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(Image:TheRecyclerCover2008.PNG)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Milk and Alcohol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hassocks5489-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/4_November" class="mw-redirect" title="4 November">4 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Milk_and_Alcohol" title="Milk and Alcohol">Milk and Alcohol</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><font face="Helvetica"><a href="/wiki/User:Hassocks5489" title="User:Hassocks5489"><font color="#00BFFF"><b>Hassocks</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hassocks5489" title="User talk:Hassocks5489"><font color="#228B22">5489<small> (tickets please!)</small></font></a></font> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hassocks5489-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hassocks5489-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hassocks5489-2008-11-04T20:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Milk_and_Alcohol"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_DYK_Scene7" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_DYK_Scene7-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_DYK_Scene7-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z"></span>Re: DYK Scene7<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_DYK_Scene7-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gary_King-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Scene7"></span>Thanks, I'll get to those when I have time, probably in the morning. I think notability is already proven in the article at this point, though; I don't want it to hold up the DYK. <span style="font-family:Verdana;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gary_King" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gary King"><span style="color:#02b;">Gary <b>King</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gary_King" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Gary King"><span style="color:#02e;">talk</span></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Gary_King-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Scene7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gary_King-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Scene7"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gary_King-2008-11-05T05:41:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Scene7"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Faith_Leech" data-mw-thread-id="h-Faith_Leech-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Faith_Leech-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z"></span>Faith Leech<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Faith_Leech-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z-Faith_Leech"></span>Do you have access to some type of newspaper archives? <b><a href="/wiki/User:YellowMonkey" title="User:YellowMonkey"><span style="color:GoldenRod;">YellowMonkey</span></a></b> (<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:YellowMonkey" title="User talk:YellowMonkey"><span style="color:#FA8605;">click here to choose Australia's next top model!</span></a></i>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z-Faith_Leech" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z-Faith_Leech"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z-Faith_Leech"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-05T07:36:00.000Z-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z"></span>A friend of mine does. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-05T07:36:00.000Z-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-05T07:36:00.000Z-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-05T07:36:00.000Z-YellowMonkey-2008-11-05T07:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Vienna Fingers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/6_November" class="mw-redirect" title="6 November">6 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Vienna_Fingers" title="Vienna Fingers">Vienna Fingers</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> You're making me hungry! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Royalbroil" title="User:Royalbroil"><span style="color:#000000;">Royal</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royalbroil" title="User talk:Royalbroil"><span style="color:#FFCC00;">broil</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Vienna_Fingers"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the research on the Action Advertiser newspaper. I'm going to write a stub soon because I used the following week's addition for several articles. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Royalbroil" title="User:Royalbroil"><span style="color:#000000;">Royal</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royalbroil" title="User talk:Royalbroil"><span style="color:#FFCC00;">broil</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span>Glad I could help out. And thanks for the DYK credit. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-11-06T16:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-06T16:56:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z"></span>Hooray for us! And to think...this article was actually up for AfD! :) <a href="/wiki/User:Ecoleetage" title="User:Ecoleetage">Ecoleetage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecoleetage" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ecoleetage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-06T16:56:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-06T16:56:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-06T16:56:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-06T16:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_template-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_template-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z"></span>DYK template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_template-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z-DYK_template"></span>Thanks for cleaning up the documentation on <a href="/wiki/Template:DYKquestions" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:DYKquestions">that template</a>! It's the first template I've written, so I just pretty much copied the documentation sheet from <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Fact" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Fact">fact</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and wasn't totally sure what sort of format we're supposed to follow. Anyway, thanks for your edit, it looks a lot better now! —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z-DYK_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z-DYK_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z-DYK_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:31:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Wow, that will be really useful! I'm relatively new to DYK myself so I don't know a lot about all of these templates, but I'll take a look. <a href="/wiki/User:RyanCross" title="User:RyanCross">RyanCross</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Gatoclass" title="User:Gatoclass">Gatoclass</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RoyalBroil&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RoyalBroil (page does not exist)">RoyalBroil</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> would also be good people to check with.</dd> <dd>Off the top of my head, I can say that <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:DYKusertalk" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:DYKusertalk">DYKusertalk</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> looks to be pretty much the same as <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:DYKquestions" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:DYKquestions">DYKquestions</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> (although I daresay I think mine is nicer ;) ). I will send a message to the creator of that template to see if he minds if we <s>delete that one</s> redirect that template to mine. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:31:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:31:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:31:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-07T21:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_question_answered" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_question_answered-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_question_answered-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z"></span>DYK question answered<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_question_answered-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z-DYK_question_answered"></span>Hello! I answered your question on the DYK entry for November 6 on <a href="/wiki/Rescue_of_Jews_by_Polish_communities_during_the_Holocaust" class="mw-redirect" title="Rescue of Jews by Polish communities during the Holocaust">Rescue of Jews by Polish communities during the Holocaust</a>. Please revisit this when you have a moment. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Ecoleetage" title="User:Ecoleetage">Ecoleetage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecoleetage" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ecoleetage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z-DYK_question_answered" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z-DYK_question_answered"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecoleetage-2008-11-08T14:34:00.000Z-DYK_question_answered"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted" data-mw-thread-id="h-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=B.P._Newman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="B.P. Newman (page does not exist)">B.P. Newman</a> article may be deleted<span data-mw-comment-end="h-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billy_Hathorn-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted"></span>Thanks for the material you added to the article. I did not have those sources. I don't know why there is such opposition to this. I think some of these editors just want to delete "something" every day. Thanks again. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Billy_Hathorn" title="User:Billy Hathorn">Billy Hathorn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billy_Hathorn" title="User talk:Billy Hathorn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Billy_Hathorn-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billy_Hathorn-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billy_Hathorn-2008-11-09T01:46:00.000Z-B.P._Newman_article_may_be_deleted"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_DYK" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_DYK-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_DYK-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z"></span>Re: DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_DYK-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z-Re:_DYK"></span>Oh, no problem at all; I appreciate all of your comments! In fact, I don't even remember which particular DYK you're worried about stepping on my toes at, because I haven't been bothered by any of your edits. Cheers, —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z-Re:_DYK" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z-Re:_DYK"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-09T03:08:00.000Z-Re:_DYK"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Charles_Curtis_(botanist)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z"><span id="Charles_Curtis_.28botanist.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Charles_Curtis_(botanist)" title="Charles Curtis (botanist)">Charles Curtis (botanist)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)"></span>I note your comments on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">DYK page</a>, which I have now addressed. Could you now let me know if the article is OK for DYK or if anything else needs changing? If you're "happy", could you confirm that the hook etc. is OK on the DYK page. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Daemonic_Kangaroo" title="User:Daemonic Kangaroo">Daemonic Kangaroo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daemonic_Kangaroo" title="User talk:Daemonic Kangaroo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-09T11:33:00.000Z-Charles_Curtis_(botanist)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_hook" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_hook-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_hook-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z"></span>DYK hook<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_hook-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Benea-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z-DYK_hook"></span>One of the discussions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN/I">WP:AN/I</a> can be found <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive454#Bedford_and_misogyny" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive454">here</a>. This was quite a recent issue, but I guess it unfolded before you became active on DYK? The upshot is that the use of the main page is a sensitive issue, and there never seems to have been a clear set of guidelines on acceptable material to post there. Both <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TFA">WP:TFA</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TFP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TFP">WP:TFP</a> have made clear judgements that questionable content will not be featured. DYK has not really had that so far, so one administrator uploaded what he thought was an innocuous nom, that was considered provocative in its wording and featured scantily clad women. It unleashed a firestorm, though his subsequent desysopping was I think more about his reactions to the opposition than anything else. </p><p>Most of the other DYK regulars who have posted comments on this current porn film topic have remembered this I suspect. If scantily clad women are considered by many editors not to be acceptable, featuring a hook about a commercial pornographic film about a recently defeated vice-presidential nominee around the period of its general release is certainly going to be controversial. This is an issue that needs clarifying at an RFC for the entire wikipedia project over the guidelines for the use of the main page for TFA, ITN, TFP and DYK. I think you were right to pass it (as by DYK guidelines it was fine) but as you point out, that is in itself superseded by the admin conduct guidelines. Until the situation has been clarified one way or the other, noms that are judged excessively controversial by general consensus should continue to be shelved. <a href="/wiki/User:Benea" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Benea">Benea</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Benea" title="User talk:Benea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Benea-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z-DYK_hook" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Benea-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z-DYK_hook"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Benea-2008-11-09T15:24:00.000Z-DYK_hook"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Documenting_search_methods" data-mw-thread-id="h-Documenting_search_methods-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Documenting_search_methods-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z"></span>Documenting search methods<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Documenting_search_methods-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carcharoth-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z-Documenting_search_methods"></span>Not sure if you saw <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Carcharoth&diff=250546271&oldid=250545879">my reply</a>. That looks like a very useful search method. Is it documented anywhere? <a href="/wiki/User:Carcharoth" title="User:Carcharoth">Carcharoth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carcharoth" title="User talk:Carcharoth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Carcharoth-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z-Documenting_search_methods" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 11 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carcharoth-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z-Documenting_search_methods"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carcharoth-2008-11-11T00:00:00.000Z-Documenting_search_methods"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Boris Bazhanov<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cirt-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_November" class="mw-redirect" title="11 November">11 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Boris_Bazhanov" title="Boris Bazhanov">Boris Bazhanov</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b><a href="/wiki/User:Cirt" title="User:Cirt">Cirt</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cirt" title="User talk:Cirt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Cirt-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cirt-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cirt-2008-11-11T15:10:00.000Z-DYK_for_Boris_Bazhanov"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Freebiejeebies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Freebiejeebies-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Freebiejeebies-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Freebiejeebies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Freebiejeebies-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simon2239-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z-Freebiejeebies"></span>Please can you return to this discussion and correct your comments, you commented on a past article, not the one of the discussion. The correct version was provided in a link within the text. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Simon2239&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Simon2239 (page does not exist)">Simon2239</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simon2239" title="User talk:Simon2239">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Simon2239-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z-Freebiejeebies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simon2239-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z-Freebiejeebies"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simon2239-2008-11-13T13:03:00.000Z-Freebiejeebies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z-DYK"></span>Hi - I don't know whether or not I am talking to the right person, but no-one has posted the DYK messages on the article talk pages nor to the user pages for the current front page. Is this something you can help with - I must declare an interest as two articles that I created are featured. Cheers. --<a href="/wiki/User:Daemonic_Kangaroo" title="User:Daemonic Kangaroo">Daemonic Kangaroo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daemonic_Kangaroo" title="User talk:Daemonic Kangaroo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z-DYK" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z-DYK"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z-DYK"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-13T18:51:00.000Z-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z"></span>The credits to be posted used to be at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know/Next_update" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Did you know/Next update">Template:Did you know/Next update</a>. I think they moved them. <a href="/wiki/User:Ameliorate!" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ameliorate!">User:Ameliorate!</a> might know the status of the present credits. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-13T18:51:00.000Z-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-13T18:51:00.000Z-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-13T18:51:00.000Z-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-13T18:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-14T12:50:00.000Z-DYK"></span>Thanks for the help & comments. <a href="/wiki/User:Daemonic_Kangaroo" title="User:Daemonic Kangaroo">Daemonic Kangaroo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daemonic_Kangaroo" title="User talk:Daemonic Kangaroo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-14T12:50:00.000Z-DYK" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-14T12:50:00.000Z-DYK"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daemonic_Kangaroo-2008-11-14T12:50:00.000Z-DYK"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jeff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jeff-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jeff-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z"></span>Jeff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jeff-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Shankbone-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z-Jeff"></span>I don't know if you realize how much that will mean to Jeff's mother. Really. We speak every week, and she is still simply devastated. I dedicated my <a href="/wiki/Joan_Didion" title="Joan Didion">Joan Didion</a> photograph to her. I will wait to see if it sticks before letting her know you did that. If you feel comfortable sending me your e-mail address, she may (or may not - she's somewhat reclusive) want to reach out to you. If that is awkward for you, no worries. davidshankbone@gmail.com --<font color="#0000C0">David</font> <b><a href="/wiki/User:David_Shankbone" title="User:David Shankbone"><font color="#0000C0">Shankbone</font></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-David_Shankbone-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z-Jeff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Shankbone-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z-Jeff"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Shankbone-2008-11-13T23:14:00.000Z-Jeff"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SS_Mahratta_(1917)" data-mw-thread-id="h-SS_Mahratta_(1917)-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z"><span id="SS_Mahratta_.281917.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SS_Mahratta_(1917)-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/SS_Mahratta_(1917)" title="SS Mahratta (1917)">SS Mahratta (1917)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-SS_Mahratta_(1917)-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mjroots-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z-SS_Mahratta_(1917)"></span>Most of those links are not to the ships, but other uses of the word "Mahratta". I really think I've exhausted all online sources for this ship. As I haven't been able to find out an official number for the ship I can't search using that. <a href="/wiki/User:Mjroots" title="User:Mjroots">Mjroots</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mjroots" title="User talk:Mjroots">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mjroots-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z-SS_Mahratta_(1917)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mjroots-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z-SS_Mahratta_(1917)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mjroots-2008-11-14T18:08:00.000Z-SS_Mahratta_(1917)"></span> </p> <dl><dd>OK, I've found a couple more sources and expanded as much as I can. If it is long enough now then I'll unstrike the nom. 19:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nassak_Diamond" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nassak_Diamond-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nassak_Diamond-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z"></span>Nassak Diamond<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nassak_Diamond-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cbl62-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z-Nassak_Diamond"></span>In reviewing new pages, I saw your excellent article on the Nassak Diamond. I was about to nominate it for DYK, but then saw you were the author and figured I'd defer to you to self-nominate. One possible suggestion would be:<br/> </p> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg/100px-Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="92" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg/150px-Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg/200px-Nassak_Diamond_copy.jpg 2x" data-file-width="538" data-file-height="493"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <ul><li>... that the <b><a href="/wiki/Nassak_Diamond" title="Nassak Diamond">Nassak Diamond</a></b> <i>(pictured)</i>, which adorned a statue of <a href="/wiki/Shiva" title="Shiva">Shiva</a> in an Indian temple for 300 years, was later embeded into the <a href="/wiki/Hilt" title="Hilt">handle</a> of the dress sword of the <a href="/wiki/Robert_Grosvenor,_1st_Marquess_of_Westminster" title="Robert Grosvenor, 1st Marquess of Westminster">Marquess of Westminster</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Cbl62" title="User:Cbl62">Cbl62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cbl62" title="User talk:Cbl62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Cbl62-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z-Nassak_Diamond" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cbl62-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z-Nassak_Diamond"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cbl62-2008-11-15T05:02:00.000Z-Nassak_Diamond"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_2-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_2-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_2-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grahamec-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z-DYK_2"></span>I didn't post the DKY articles, i just noticed they were missing DYK tags and added them.--<a href="/wiki/User:Grahamec" title="User:Grahamec">Grahame</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grahamec" title="User talk:Grahamec">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Grahamec-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z-DYK_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grahamec-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z-DYK_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grahamec-2008-11-16T03:03:00.000Z-DYK_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_The_Tiger" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_The_Tiger-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_The_Tiger-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z"></span>Re: The Tiger<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_The_Tiger-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z-Re:_The_Tiger"></span>Thanks so much for your message! It's been a pleasure working with you and the other reviewers at DYK. (Now if I can only get enough control over myself to actually drag myself away from it sometimes and get my actual work done...) —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z-Re:_The_Tiger" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z-Re:_The_Tiger"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-15T15:00:00.000Z-Re:_The_Tiger"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Columbia_Park.2C_Torrance.2C_California"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Columbia Park, Torrance, California<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cirt-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/16_November" class="mw-redirect" title="16 November">16 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California" title="Columbia Park, Torrance, California">Columbia Park, Torrance, California</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b><a href="/wiki/User:Cirt" title="User:Cirt">Cirt</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cirt" title="User talk:Cirt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Cirt-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cirt-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cirt-2008-11-16T06:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Nassak Diamond<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/20_November" class="mw-redirect" title="20 November">20 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Nassak_Diamond" title="Nassak Diamond">Nassak Diamond</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-20T12:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nassak_Diamond"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Find_sources?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Find_sources?-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z"><span id="Find_sources.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Find_sources?-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z"></span>Find sources?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Find_sources?-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z-Find_sources?"></span>I don't understand a newly added template. </p> <ul><li>Content for the article may be located at Find sources: "<a href="/wiki/Yonsei_(fourth-generation_Nikkei)" class="mw-redirect" title="Yonsei (fourth-generation Nikkei)">Yonsei (fourth-generation Nikkei)</a>" — news, books, scholar</li></ul> <p>Will you point me to where I could have/should have been able to learn more about its function, provenance, etc. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tenmei" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tenmei">Tenmei</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tenmei" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Tenmei">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z-Find_sources?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z-Find_sources?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z-Find_sources?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-21T18:59:00.000Z-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z"></span>Hi Tenmei. In response to your post above, I revised <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Findsourcesnotice&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Findsourcesnotice (page does not exist)">Template:Findsourcesnotice</a> to give it optional parameters. In general, you can locate any category Templates used on any page by using the "edit this page" tab than the "show preview" button. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Yonsei_(fourth-generation_Nikkei)&action=submit">This string</a> leads to a page where the bottom of the page includes a section "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page:" (sometimes reads: "Templates used in this preview:") which provides a list of templates used on the Talk:Yonsei (fourth-generation Nikkei) page. One purpose of the banner is to help editors locate source material for the article. Another is to give editors something to check before listing an article at AfD. Banjeboi's had a strong keep point in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yonsei_(fourth-generation_Nikkei)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yonsei (fourth-generation Nikkei)">Yonsei AfD</a> about a simple search revealing a likelihood of material available for the Yonsei article. If Template:Findsourcesnotice were on the talk page of the Yonsei article, then perhaps it would not have landed at AfD. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-21T18:59:00.000Z-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-21T18:59:00.000Z-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-21T18:59:00.000Z-Tenmei-2008-11-21T13:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Love_dart" data-mw-thread-id="h-Love_dart-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Love_dart-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Love_dart" title="Love dart">Love dart</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Love_dart-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Invertzoo-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z-Love_dart"></span>Hi Suntag, Thanks for the congratulations on the DYK results. I had originally hoped to work on the article "behind the scenes" and then "release" it shortly before Valentine's Day 2009. I think it would <b>really</b> have gone off the charts if we could have done that. But as it is it did great anyway. Thanks again, <a href="/wiki/User:Invertzoo" title="User:Invertzoo">Invertzoo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Invertzoo" title="User talk:Invertzoo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Invertzoo-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z-Love_dart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Invertzoo-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z-Love_dart"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Invertzoo-2008-11-21T13:44:00.000Z-Love_dart"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Trial of Lex Wotton<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/21_November" class="mw-redirect" title="21 November">21 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Trial_of_Lex_Wotton" title="Trial of Lex Wotton">Trial of Lex Wotton</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-21T18:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trial_of_Lex_Wotton"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GA_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-GA_template-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GA_template-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z"></span>GA template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GA_template-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z-GA_template"></span>Not sure what trouble you had -- the template is working for me (see the top of my user page), but when you click into the template itself you get an error message. I've never known why that's there, I'm not very advanced in the art of Template-Fu. Sorry! -<a href="/wiki/User:Peteforsyth" title="User:Peteforsyth">Pete</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peteforsyth" title="User talk:Peteforsyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z-GA_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z-GA_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z-GA_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-23T07:32:00.000Z-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z"></span>Yes...that error message has been there since I first made it. I copied the code from another template. Wish i knew why it was there, I'd love to get rid of it...but, it doensn't interfere with the functionality, so I figured I'd just leave it until someone more skilled comes along and fixes it :) Thanks for noticing, I never really expected anyone else to use those templates besides me. -<a href="/wiki/User:Peteforsyth" title="User:Peteforsyth">Pete</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peteforsyth" title="User talk:Peteforsyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-23T07:32:00.000Z-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-23T07:32:00.000Z-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peteforsyth-2008-11-23T07:32:00.000Z-Peteforsyth-2008-11-22T01:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nasak_Diamond" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nasak_Diamond-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nasak_Diamond-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Nasak Diamond<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nasak_Diamond-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GateKeeperX-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z-Nasak_Diamond"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256396942"> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop" title="Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Suntag. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop">Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Suntag/Archive 1">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div><p> -- <a href="/wiki/User:GateKeeperX" class="mw-redirect" title="User:GateKeeperX">GateKeeper</a><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GateKeeperX" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GateKeeperX">X</a>)</sup> <font color="red">@</font> <font face="Comic Sans" size="2"> <i> </i> </font> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-GateKeeperX-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z-Nasak_Diamond" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GateKeeperX-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z-Nasak_Diamond"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GateKeeperX-2008-11-22T01:59:00.000Z-Nasak_Diamond"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_rollback_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_rollback_request-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_rollback_request-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z"></span>Your rollback request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_rollback_request-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SoxBot_X-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z-Your_rollback_request"></span>Hi! I regret that I must inform you that your request for the rollback permission has been denied. You can discover why by checking the archives at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Denied/November_2008#Suntag" title="Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Denied/November 2008">Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Denied/November 2008#Suntag</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:SoxBot_X" title="User:SoxBot X">SoxBot X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SoxBot_X" title="User talk:SoxBot X">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-SoxBot_X-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z-Your_rollback_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 22 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SoxBot_X-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z-Your_rollback_request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SoxBot_X-2008-11-22T08:00:00.000Z-Your_rollback_request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Congrats" data-mw-thread-id="h-Congrats-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Congrats-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z"></span>Congrats<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Congrats-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eustress-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z-Congrats"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png/100px-Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Working_Wikimedian%27s_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="119" data-file-height="114"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Working Man's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For doing a lot of behind-the-scenes work that makes Wikipedia what it is. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Eustress" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Eustress">Eustress</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eustress" title="User talk:Eustress">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Eustress-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z-Congrats" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 22 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eustress-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z-Congrats"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eustress-2008-11-22T23:36:00.000Z-Congrats"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before." data-mw-thread-id="h-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before.-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z"><span id="Signpost_updated_for_November_17.2C_2008_and_before."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before.-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z"></span><i>Signpost</i> updated for November 17, 2008 and before.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before.-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ralbot-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before."></span>Because the <i>Signpost</i> hasn't been sent in a while, to save space, I've condensed all seven issues that were not sent into <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives/2008" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives/2008">this archive</a></b>. Only the three issues from November are below. </p> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <th><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikipediaSignpostHead.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="The Wikipedia Signpost"><img alt="The Wikipedia Signpost" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/500px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png" decoding="async" width="500" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/750px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/WikipediaSignpostHead.svg/1000px-WikipediaSignpostHead.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="64"/></a><figcaption>The Wikipedia Signpost</figcaption></figure><font style="position: relative; top: .3em; font-size: 250%;"><b>Weekly Delivery</b></font> </th></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><b>Volume 4, Issue 42</b></td> <td align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/8_November" class="mw-redirect" title="8 November">8 November</a> <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a></b></td> <td align="right"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About the Signpost</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table align="center" cellspacing="20" width="90%" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-08/From_the_editor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-08/From the editor">From the editor</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-08/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-08/News and notes">News and notes: The Price is Right, milestones</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-08/Dispatches" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-08/Dispatches">Dispatches: Halloween Main Page contest generates new article content</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-08/Features_and_admins" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-08/Features and admins">Features and admins</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-08/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-08/Technology report">Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-08/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-08/Arbitration report">The Report on Lengthy Litigation</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><b>Volume 4, Issue 43</b></td> <td align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/10_November" class="mw-redirect" title="10 November">10 November</a> <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a></b></td> <td align="right"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About the Signpost</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table align="center" cellspacing="20" width="90%" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/2008_fundraiser" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/2008 fundraiser">Fundraiser opens: Over $500,000 raised in first week</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/ArbCom_elections" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/ArbCom elections">ArbCom elections: Nominations open</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Book_review" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Book review">Book review: <i>How Wikipedia Works</i></a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Search_engine" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Search engine">MediaWiki search engine improved</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Board_resolutions" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Board resolutions">Four Board resolutions, including financials, approved</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/News and notes">News and notes: Vietnamese Wiki Day</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Dispatches" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Dispatches">Dispatches: Historic election proves groundbreaking on the Main Page</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Features_and_admins" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Features and admins">Features and admins</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Technology report">Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Arbitration report">The Report on Lengthy Litigation</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <table width="90%" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="left"><b>Volume 4, Issue 44</b></td> <td align="center"><b><a href="/wiki/17_November" class="mw-redirect" title="17 November">17 November</a> <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a></b></td> <td align="right"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About the Signpost</a></b> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"> <hr/> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table align="center" cellspacing="20" width="90%" style="background-color:transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/Wikimedia_Deutschland_case" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/Wikimedia Deutschland case">Lawsuit briefly shuts down Wikipedia.de</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/GFDL_1.3" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/GFDL 1.3">GFDL 1.3 released, will allow Wikimedia migration to Creative Commons license</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/Wikimedia_events" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/Wikimedia events">Wikimedia Events Roundup</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/News and notes">News and notes: Fundraiser, List Summary Service, milestones</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/Features_and_admins" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/Features and admins">Features and admins</a> </td> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/Technology report">Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="50%"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-17/Arbitration 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If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Ralbot" title="User:Ralbot">Ralbot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ralbot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ralbot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ralbot-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ralbot-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ralbot-2008-11-23T10:55:00.000Z-Signpost_updated_for_November_17,_2008_and_before."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stevanna_Jackson" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stevanna_Jackson-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stevanna_Jackson-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z"></span>Stevanna Jackson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stevanna_Jackson-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z-Stevanna_Jackson"></span>There is not single source of articles under Google news, books, and scholar, for Tessa which I could look up. Tessa Ludwick is also 22 years old and has been a <a href="/wiki/Movie_Surfer" class="mw-redirect" title="Movie Surfer">Movie Surfer</a> since she is 15 years old, and even if She was in a lot of school plays, and now her page has become so extensive, what is your explanation for Blaine Miller? Where is his notability?--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fantasia_15&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fantasia 15 (page does not exist)">Fantasia 15</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fantasia_15" title="User talk:Fantasia 15">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z-Stevanna_Jackson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z-Stevanna_Jackson"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z-Stevanna_Jackson"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-24T06:31:00.000Z-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z"></span>I can answer this one. Fantasia, one user has already advised you to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Other_stuff_exists" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Other stuff exists">Other stuff exists</a>, but I will reiterate it here. Basically, the fact that another article is bad will never have any bearing on your article. If the other article is bad, it will be dealt with (deleted or improved) on its own, and does not have any influence over what happens to the Stevanna Jackson article. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-24T06:31:00.000Z-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-24T06:31:00.000Z-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-24T06:31:00.000Z-Fantasia_15-2008-11-24T06:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Image source problem with Image:Truman Balcony 154. West Window to Room.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyright-problem.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Image Copyright problem"><img alt="Image Copyright problem" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/64px-Copyright-problem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="64" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/96px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/128px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="120"/></a><figcaption>Image Copyright problem</figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/wiki/File:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg" title="File:Truman Balcony 154. West Window to Room.jpg">Image:Truman Balcony 154. West Window to Room.jpg</a></b>. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the <a href="/wiki/Copyright" title="Copyright">copyright</a> status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged. </p><p>If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=upload&user=Suntag">this link</a>. <b>Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged</b>, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If the image is copyrighted under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use">non-free license</a> (per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">Wikipedia:Fair use</a>) then <b>the image will be deleted <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#I7" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">48 hours</a> after 22:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</b>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:J_Milburn" title="User:J Milburn">J Milburn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn" title="User talk:J Milburn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z-Image_source_problem_with_Image:Truman_Balcony_154._West_Window_to_Room.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for sorting that. <a href="/wiki/User:J_Milburn" title="User:J Milburn">J Milburn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn" title="User talk:J Milburn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T22:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-24T23:14:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z"></span>I usually try to get the source info posted within 5 minutes of uploading an image to avoid being hit with an image template, but I had a phone call and missed the 5-minute window. I'm glad things worked out. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-24T23:14:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-24T23:14:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-24T23:14:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2008-11-24T23:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Oops" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oops-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oops-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Oops<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oops-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z-Oops"></span>Hi. Please undo your refactoring of my comment <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pharmacology&diff=next&oldid=254037817">here</a>. Giving a diff of my edit to <a href="/wiki/Medscape" title="Medscape">Medscape</a> adds nothing of value here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Una_Smith" title="User:Una Smith">Una Smith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Una_Smith" title="User talk:Una Smith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z-Oops" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z-Oops"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z-Oops"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Fixed. Sorry about the confusion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:38:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z"></span>Thank you and no problem. --<a href="/wiki/User:Una_Smith" title="User:Una Smith">Una Smith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Una_Smith" title="User talk:Una Smith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:38:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:38:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Una_Smith-2008-11-25T17:38:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-25T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z"></span>I lift a <a href="/wiki/Tom_Collins" title="Tom Collins">Tom Collins</a> in salute<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:DYK_Medal.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/DYK_Medal.svg/80px-DYK_Medal.svg.png" decoding="async" width="80" height="149" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/DYK_Medal.svg/120px-DYK_Medal.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/DYK_Medal.svg/160px-DYK_Medal.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="842" data-file-height="1573"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">DYK</a> Medal</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">While the article has not yet graced the main page as part of DYK, I heartily salute your efforts to transform <a href="/wiki/Tom_Collins" title="Tom Collins">Tom Collins</a> from a mere recipe to a truly-fascinating article about the century-long history and development of this cocktail, and the curious marketing program behind its popularity. I raise my <a href="/wiki/Collins_glass" title="Collins glass">Collins glass</a> and offer this salute with a Tom Collins of my own (though a little lighter on the gin, it is only morning here). Keep up the great work. <a href="/wiki/User:Alansohn" title="User:Alansohn">Alansohn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alansohn" title="User talk:Alansohn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z-I_lift_a_Tom_Collins_in_salute"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T15:59:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z"></span>Thank your for the DYK medal. The <a href="/wiki/Tom_Collins" title="Tom Collins">Tom Collins</a> topic turned out to be a great find. The actual history is in old books, now easily searched through Google, the origins of the drink were declared lost in the 1920s, and modern writers on the topic merely copied each other's rumors. I started with a simple old book search at Google<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://books.google.com/books?lr=&num=100&as_brr=0&q=%22Tom+Collins%22+gin+date%3A1700-1899">[7]</a> and found enough info from the 1800s to generate the article. When I was done, I noticed that Tom Collins is an <a href="/wiki/IBA_Official_Cocktail" class="mw-redirect" title="IBA Official Cocktail">IBA Official Cocktail</a>, which likely means that people going to the annual World Cocktail Competition will read the Wikipedia article to prepare for the competition and, on returning back to their bars, retell the tale of Tom Collins and source it to Wikipedia. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-26T15:59:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T15:59:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T15:59:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-11-26T14:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span>Re: DYK Tessa Ludwick<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick"></span>No problem! I think I actually meant to check that one several days ago, but when I looked into the article history I accidentally got myself caught up in that ridiculous Stevanna Jackson thing and got distracted for a while. Anyway, it's verified now. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z-Re:_DYK_Tessa_Ludwick"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span>I agree that there needs to be some way of notifying people when a nom has been promoted... one idea that was brought up before (I don't remember by whom) was leaving promoted noms at T:TDYK but setting them off in a gray box or something like that (similar to what happens with old AfD discussions and stuff). I guess we have to decide between doing that or making a standard message to send people when their nom gets promoted. Both would mean a bit of extra work for the promoter (although I presume the setting-off plan would be slightly less extra work, since the nominator will already have the T:TDYK window edit open when they're copying the hook over), and sending messages might clutter talk pages (especially for the prolific nominators). Setting off promoted hooks in a box would avoid those problems, but it would have the added hassle of someone needing to pay attention to when the template gets flipped, and going back and removing those noms after the flip happens. In all, I think sending messages is easier to set up initially (a template message is easier to create than a template using <div> and stuff, which is very esoteric to me, to set off the old noms), but it's hard for me to gauge which one will work better in the long run. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z"></span>On a side note, if we do decide to mark promoted noms by putting them in a gray box or something, I think that could be nicely built into <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKsuggestion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKsuggestion (page does not exist)">DYKsuggestion</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>...just adding a parameter like <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|promoted=</code> that can take <code>yes</code> or <code>no</code>, and if it's yes it puts in some div bla bla bla stuff. (And then when a vetter is moving the nom over to Next, he doesn't have to copy in the new formatting or template or anything to mark that the nom has been chosen; he just needs to change "no" to "yes" in the existing template.) —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z"></span>The time problem was because I was using <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:FULLDATE" title="Template:FULLDATE">FULLDATE</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, which doesn't have a time-first date-second format (except for one that wikilinks the date, wh ich I find annoying). I just discovered <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Time" title="Template:Time">time</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, which seems to do just what we want, so I'm fiddling around with that in <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKsuggestion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKsuggestion (page does not exist)">DYKsuggestion</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> now. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:40:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Ah ok, I see now. Moving the timestamp into {{tl:DYKsug}} seems to work fine. As for collapsing the vertical-ness...I originally arranged things vertically like that so it would be clean for reviewers. I'm not sure if having it all scrunched together like this will be an issue or not; I guess it might be a matter of personal preference. I'm trying to figure out a way to make it only show the fields that people actually filled in, and if I could get that set up then the vertical setup wouldn't take up too much space...but I haven't gotten it working yet. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:40:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:40:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:40:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T19:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span>(outdent) The Seth Kinman nom looks good. Good call with adding the asterisk for the first commentator; when I commented on your earlier nom I had to stop and think for a moment about how far I would need to indent my first comment under the template, so putting the asterisk in there beforehand is a nice touch. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:14:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T14:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Altusername" data-mw-thread-id="h-Altusername-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Altusername-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z"></span>Altusername<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Altusername-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z-Altusername"></span>No problem, I got it just before I received your message. I think all it was was that you missed the closing <code>}}</code> after the <code>{{#if:</code> thing. I'm about to go add altusername to the documentation. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z-Altusername" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z-Altusername"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T20:45:00.000Z-Altusername"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pre-going_live" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pre-going_live-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pre-going_live-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Pre-going live<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pre-going_live-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z-Pre-going_live"></span>Hey, sorry, but I have to head out in about 5 minutes and won't be back until later in the evening. Do you want to go ahead with the switching over old noms at T:TDYK, or wait until this evening so you don't have to do it all on your own? I don't mind either way. </p><p>Also, I figured it might be good to try doing about half of them with the vertical spacing from earlier, and half with the collapsed way that you have <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKsug&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKsug (page does not exist)">DYKsug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> set up now. That way after 24 hours or so hopefully vetters will be able to say either, "ugh, that was so cluttered, it took me forever to find the hook and whom to give credit to!" or "ugh, that stupid template took up so much space and there was hardly even anything in it!" and that way we can get a better idea which sort of spacing out is more practical. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z-Pre-going_live" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z-Pre-going_live"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z-Pre-going_live"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z"></span>I'll put back in the spacing. Eventually, if a bot reads the template to do the credits, we won't need the spacing. Plus, we can get feed back on the spacing as it was the original idea. I'll switch some of the DKYs but I have to go as well. Another day or two before going live might be a good way to go. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-26T21:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z"></span>I left you a message at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:DYKsuggestion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:DYKsuggestion (page does not exist)">Template talk:DYKsuggestion#Going live</a> about the ALT hooks and a possible solution for them.</dd> <dd>Also, I was just thinking, should we notify the more prolific nominators (Alansohn, PFLai, Cbl62, etc.) about the template and try to use them as guinea pigs? After all, they are the ones who will end up using it most...and since they are DYK regulars, maybe it will be easier for them to make the switch initially. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-11-26T21:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z"></span>Awesome!</dd> <dd>I just added some examples of the alt hook stuff to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKsuggestion/Test&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKsuggestion/Test (page does not exist)">Template:DYKsuggestion/Test</a> at the bottom of the page.</dd> <dd>With these sample strings at T:TDYK, do you think we should move them down a little, to keep the rules at the top? —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 27 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-27T00:58:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z"></span>Moved. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-27T00:58:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-27T00:58:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-27T00:58:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-11-27T00:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Charles_G._Boyd" data-mw-thread-id="h-Charles_G._Boyd-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Charles_G._Boyd-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z"></span>Charles G. Boyd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Charles_G._Boyd-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z-Charles_G._Boyd"></span>Since they all use the same fact, they're all approve. It's up to whoever puts them in the queue to choose the best-worded one. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Case" title="User talk:Daniel Case">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z-Charles_G._Boyd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z-Charles_G._Boyd"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z-Charles_G._Boyd"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T23:26:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z"></span>OK, thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-11-26T23:26:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T23:26:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-11-26T23:26:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2008-11-26T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Tessa Ludwick<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/27_November" class="mw-redirect" title="27 November">27 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Tessa_Ludwick" title="Tessa Ludwick">Tessa Ludwick</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-27T20:36:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tessa_Ludwick"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Award_of_a_Barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Award_of_a_Barnstar-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Award_of_a_Barnstar-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z"></span>Award of a Barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Award_of_a_Barnstar-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PhilKnight-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z-Award_of_a_Barnstar"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Barnstar_of_Diligence.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Barnstar_of_Diligence.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">The Barnstar of Diligence is hereby awarded in recognition of extraordinary scrutiny, precision, and community service, especially in regard to the deletion process. <p>Awarded by <a href="/wiki/User:PhilKnight" title="User:PhilKnight">PhilKnight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PhilKnight" title="User talk:PhilKnight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-PhilKnight-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z-Award_of_a_Barnstar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PhilKnight-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z-Award_of_a_Barnstar"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PhilKnight-2008-11-28T16:20:00.000Z-Award_of_a_Barnstar"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for Input on Marriage Privatization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span>Hi Suntag, Thanks for your input regarding the deletion review of my article Marriage Privatization. Your suggestion is an intersting one to me I am still learning how the Wikipedia process works. Did you read the second article? I honestly believe that I addressed all of the appropriate reasons for deletion that were raised during discussion for the first article. The second article is subtantially longer and notes a variety of notable writers holding various views on the topic dating back to 1997. This should negate the problem surrounding a non-notable neo-logism or the suggestion that the first article was origional research. I provide numerous reliable resources in the second article (<a href="/wiki/Marriage_Privatization" class="mw-redirect" title="Marriage Privatization">Marriage Privatization</a>). If you read that article I am very interested in specific suggestion you might have. I am assuming that administrators have access to deleted articles. Thanks for your help! <a href="/wiki/User:Hermesmessage" title="User:Hermesmessage">Hermesmessage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermesmessage" title="User talk:Hermesmessage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</a>Hermesmessage<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T16:38:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:06:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span> Dear Suntag, In accordance with your advice I have created the following sub-page reposting the deleted article in question. If you have any further comments or suggestions I am eager to hear them. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Hermesmessage" title="User:Hermesmessage">Hermesmessage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermesmessage" title="User talk:Hermesmessage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:06:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</a>Hermesmessage<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:06:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:06:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span> </p><p><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Hermesmessage/Marriage_Privatization" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hermesmessage/Marriage Privatization"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:31:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span>User:Hermesmessage/Marriage Privatization</a> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment was added at 18:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC).</span> </p><p>Thank you very much for your additional comment in the deletion review. Also, thank you for cleaning up my new article on the sub-page. I may be mistaken (I did a search for the topic before writing), but as far as I can tell the topic of Marriage Privatization is not otherwise mentioned in Wikipedia. The exception is a brief mention of Dershowitz’s position in the <a href="/wiki/Same-sex_marriage" title="Same-sex marriage">Same-sex marriage</a> article. The topic does not seem to get any comprehensive coverage in Wikipedia at this time. Thanks for your constructive help! <a href="/wiki/User:Hermesmessage" title="User:Hermesmessage">Hermesmessage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermesmessage" title="User talk:Hermesmessage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:31:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</a>Hermesmessage<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:31:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:31:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:41:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span>I appreciate the advice you left on my talk page. I will try to incorporate your suggestions as I continue to write and edit here. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Hermesmessage" title="User:Hermesmessage">Hermesmessage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermesmessage" title="User talk:Hermesmessage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:41:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</a>Hermesmessage<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:41:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermesmessage-2008-11-28T18:41:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Input_on_Marriage_Privatization"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Tom_Collins" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Tom_Collins-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Tom_Collins-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Tom Collins<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Tom_Collins-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tom_Collins"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/30_November" class="mw-redirect" title="30 November">30 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Tom_Collins" title="Tom Collins">Tom Collins</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tom_Collins" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tom_Collins"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-11-30T13:05:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tom_Collins"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z"></span>Please do not add categories to preloads<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads"></span>Hi - you added a category to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:GAN/preload" title="Template:GAN/preload">GAN/preload</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. This template is not transcluded. Instead it is loaded into an edit window which GAN reviewers then save. As a consequence of your edit, over 60 GAN review subpages have been added to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Wikipedia_GA_templates&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Wikipedia GA templates (page does not exist)">Category:Wikipedia GA templates</a>. I invite you to go through these talk subpages (which all end with /GA1, /GA2, etc.) removing the category, hence fixing the consequences of your honest mistake. Thanks for your efforts to improve the documentation and organization of templates, but please take care when doing mass edits. <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geometry_guy" title="User talk:Geometry guy">Geometry guy</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z-Please_do_not_add_categories_to_preloads"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z"></span>I had talk subpages that end with /GA1, /GA2, etc. removed from Category:Wikipedia GA templates. Sorry about the confusion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z-Geometry_guy-2008-11-30T18:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geometry_guy-2008-12-02T18:32:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z"></span>No problem. Thanks for fixing it so quickly! <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geometry_guy" title="User talk:Geometry guy">Geometry guy</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Geometry_guy-2008-12-02T18:32:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geometry_guy-2008-12-02T18:32:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geometry_guy-2008-12-02T18:32:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest" data-mw-thread-id="h-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span>RE : DYK Main Page hits contest<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest"></span>I've disclosed the topic on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Main_Page_hits_contest" title="Wikipedia talk:Did you know">discussion page</a>. It's going to be a challenging one, but I don't think you need to head down to the library. (P.S. I've done a <a href="/wiki/Delay_certificate" title="Delay certificate">similiar, shorter one</a> before) ;) - <i>Cheers</i>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mailer_diablo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mailer diablo">Mailer Diablo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z-RE_:_DYK_Main_Page_hits_contest"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hassocks5489-2008-12-01T19:15:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your note Suntag. For me, it's a very apt topic ... I'm a fully signed-up rail enthusiast! Here in Britain, though, we have a standardised rapid bleeping before the doors close. Very disappointing. Look forward to expanding this, launching it in mainspace and learning some new stuff at the same time! <font face="Helvetica"><a href="/wiki/User:Hassocks5489" title="User:Hassocks5489"><font color="#00BFFF"><b>Hassocks</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hassocks5489" title="User talk:Hassocks5489"><font color="#228B22">5489<small> (tickets please!)</small></font></a></font> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Hassocks5489-2008-12-01T19:15:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hassocks5489-2008-12-01T19:15:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hassocks5489-2008-12-01T19:15:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-06T15:33:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span>A job well done to all! Cheers! - <a href="/wiki/User:Mailer_diablo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mailer diablo">Mailer Diablo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-06T15:33:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-06T15:33:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-06T15:33:00.000Z-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-01T14:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for participating in my RfA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dravecky-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA"></span>I just wanted to take a moment to say "thank you" for taking the time and effort to participate in my recent RfA. As you may know, the discussion closed 66/0/1 and I'm now a holder of the mop. I will keep working to improve the encyclopedia and appreciate the trust which you have placed in me. - <a href="/wiki/User:Dravecky" title="User:Dravecky">Dravecky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dravecky" title="User talk:Dravecky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dravecky-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dravecky-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dravecky-2008-12-02T00:23:00.000Z-Thank_you_for_participating_in_my_RfA"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Power_and_the_Glory" data-mw-thread-id="h-Power_and_the_Glory-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Power_and_the_Glory-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Power_and_the_Glory" title="Power and the Glory">Power and the Glory</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Power_and_the_Glory-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z-Power_and_the_Glory"></span>Thanks for helping out with the article. I didn't realize it was a little short for DYK. :-) — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Malik_Shabazz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Malik Shabazz (page does not exist)">Malik Shabazz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malik_Shabazz" title="User talk:Malik Shabazz">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malik_Shabazz" title="Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z-Power_and_the_Glory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z-Power_and_the_Glory"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z-Power_and_the_Glory"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:42:00.000Z-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z"></span>Glad I could help out. We're working on a bot notification system at DYK to notify editors if there are comments to their DYK nom. There's been significant changes to DYKs operation in the past month and we're working to get the kinks out. The notification bot is on the list of ideas to consider, but I think it will happen. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:42:00.000Z-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:42:00.000Z-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-02T16:42:00.000Z-Malik_Shabazz-2008-12-02T02:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Illana_Katz" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Illana_Katz-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Illana_Katz-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Illana Katz<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Illana_Katz-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z-DYK_for_Illana_Katz"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/3_December" class="mw-redirect" title="3 December">3 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Illana_Katz" title="Illana Katz">Illana Katz</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z-DYK_for_Illana_Katz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z-DYK_for_Illana_Katz"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-03T14:22:00.000Z-DYK_for_Illana_Katz"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="For_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-For_you-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-For_you-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z"></span>For you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-For_you-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-How_do_you_turn_this_on-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z-For_you"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png/100px-Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For your grand efforts around Did You Know, and your work in getting the Christmas task force going, here's something to show a little appreciation. Thanks! – <a href="/wiki/User:How_do_you_turn_this_on" class="mw-redirect" title="User:How do you turn this on">How do you turn this on</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:How_do_you_turn_this_on#top" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:How do you turn this on">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-How_do_you_turn_this_on-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z-For_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-How_do_you_turn_this_on-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z-For_you"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-How_do_you_turn_this_on-2008-12-04T02:18:00.000Z-For_you"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="INRConvert" data-mw-thread-id="h-INRConvert-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-INRConvert-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z"></span>INRConvert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-INRConvert-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:AreJay" title="User:AreJay"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z-INRConvert"></span>AreJay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AreJay" title="User talk:AreJay">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AreJay" title="Special:Contributions/AreJay">contribs</a>) is the real architect behind INR Convert. He could probably help with the technical details. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Nichalp" title="User:Nichalp"><span style="color:#0082B8;">=Nichalp</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nichalp" title="User talk:Nichalp"><span style="color:#0082B8;">«Talk»=</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z-INRConvert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z-INRConvert"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z-INRConvert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z-Nichalp-2008-12-04T14:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AreJay-2008-12-04T19:34:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z"></span>Hi there, it should be fairly simple to recalibrate INRConvert for Yen-Dollar conversions. I could have that working sometime this weekend. Not too sure about <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Inflation" title="Template:Inflation">Inflation</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> adjustments though...could you tell me a bit more about how you'd like inflation to be factored into the template? Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:AreJay" title="User:AreJay">AreJay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AreJay" title="User talk:AreJay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-AreJay-2008-12-04T19:34:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AreJay-2008-12-04T19:34:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AreJay-2008-12-04T19:34:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-04T14:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_Proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_Proposal-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_Proposal-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z"></span>DYK Proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_Proposal-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ekem-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z-DYK_Proposal"></span>Thanks for your note,- I added more references to the text of <a href="/wiki/German_post_offices_abroad" title="German post offices abroad">German post offices abroad</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Ekem" title="User:Ekem">Ekem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ekem" title="User talk:Ekem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ekem-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z-DYK_Proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 6 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ekem-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z-DYK_Proposal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ekem-2008-12-06T21:44:00.000Z-DYK_Proposal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_3-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_3-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_3-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dank55-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Thanks_3"></span>Thanks for your careful consideration at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Dank55" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dank55">my successful RfA</a>. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me. - Dan <a href="/wiki/User:Dank55" title="User:Dank55">Dank55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dank55" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dank55">send/receive</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dank55-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Thanks_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dank55-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Thanks_3"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dank55-2008-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Thanks_3"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Train_melody" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Train_melody-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Train_melody-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Train melody<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Train_melody-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Train_melody"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/7_December" class="mw-redirect" title="7 December">7 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Train_melody" title="Train melody">Train melody</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Train_melody" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Train_melody"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-07T03:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Train_melody"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_entry_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_entry_issue-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_entry_issue-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z"></span>DYK entry issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_entry_issue-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nsk92-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z-DYK_entry_issue"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/25px-Symbol_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/38px-Symbol_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/50px-Symbol_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Hello! Your submission of <a href="/wiki/Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn" title="Juma and the Magic Jinn">Juma and the Magic Jinn</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">Did You Know nominations page</a> has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath <b><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK#Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">your nomination's entry</a></b> and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <a href="/wiki/User:Nsk92" title="User:Nsk92">Nsk92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsk92" title="User talk:Nsk92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Nsk92-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z-DYK_entry_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nsk92-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z-DYK_entry_issue"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nsk92-2008-12-08T03:16:00.000Z-DYK_entry_issue"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spinoffs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spinoffs-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spinoffs-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z"></span>Spinoffs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spinoffs-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ottava_Rima-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z-Spinoffs"></span>"John Milton's early life seems to be a writing effort disconnected with similar material already presented in John Milton. Spinoff articles normally are developed in the main article, here John Milton, and then spun out after a consensus discussion." </p><p>Actually, "spinoffs" are only considered such when they are a topic that does not match the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WEIGHT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WEIGHT">WP:WEIGHT</a> guideline, regardless of discussion or not. This doesn't actually matter, because notability for topics, if notable on their own, allow for said works to exist. Milton, with thousands of books on him and tends of thousands of articles about him, is clearly notable, in the same way that <a href="/wiki/Samuel_Johnson" title="Samuel Johnson">Samuel Johnson</a> or <a href="/wiki/Charles_Darwin" title="Charles Darwin">Charles Darwin</a> is. None of this really matters, because these pages are created as part of the John Milton project. I work on FAs. I know how to build them and how to build the encyclopedia. Your assumptions leave much to be desired. But this is all ignoring the fact that your first sentence is blatantly incorrect and that there has been a lot of discussion on this birthday writing project. <a href="/wiki/User:Ottava_Rima" title="User:Ottava Rima">Ottava Rima</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ottava_Rima" title="User talk:Ottava Rima">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ottava_Rima-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z-Spinoffs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ottava_Rima-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z-Spinoffs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ottava_Rima-2008-12-08T05:28:00.000Z-Spinoffs"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Enos_Lowe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enos_Lowe-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enos_Lowe-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z"></span>Enos Lowe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enos_Lowe-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Freechild-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z-Enos_Lowe"></span>Thanks for your contribs to <a href="/wiki/Enos_Lowe" title="Enos Lowe">Enos Lowe</a>. If you're interested in sleuthing, here's a mystery for you: I have several citations reporting Enos' brother <a href="/wiki/Jesse_Lowe" title="Jesse Lowe">Jesse Lowe</a> as the first mayor of Omaha; however, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nebraskahistory.org/publish/publicat/timeline/horse_heaven.htm">this</a> reliable source says Enos himself was. I would appreciate it if you found definitive sources. • <span style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Freechild" title="User:Freechild"><span style="color:#C00000;">Freechild</span></a><i><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Freechild" title="User talk:Freechild"><span style="color:#C00000;">'sup?</span></a></small></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Freechild-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z-Enos_Lowe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 8 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Freechild-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z-Enos_Lowe"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Freechild-2008-12-08T16:15:00.000Z-Enos_Lowe"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYKBEST_nominator_credit" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYKBEST_nominator_credit-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYKBEST_nominator_credit-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z"></span>DYKBEST nominator credit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYKBEST_nominator_credit-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z-DYKBEST_nominator_credit"></span>Suntag, I left a question about DYKbest at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DYK#DYKBEST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:DYK">WT:DYK#DYKBEST</a>. Cheers, —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z-DYKBEST_nominator_credit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z-DYKBEST_nominator_credit"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-08T18:37:00.000Z-DYKBEST_nominator_credit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_sample_DYKsugstrings?" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z"><span id="New_sample_DYKsugstrings.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z"></span>New sample DYKsugstrings?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?"></span>Hey Suntag, </p><p>First of all, sorry I haven't had a chance to review any of your nominations yet; I did notice that you dug up a ton this morning, so that should really help out. Hopefully I'll have a chance to put some DYK hours in tonight or tomorrow. </p><p>Now then, Orlady brought up a problem, which is that a lot of nominators have been filling in the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|creator=</code> field even for super-old articles, and stuff like that...it's not surprising, since I doubt many people bother to look at the template documentation for that stuff (and, if I had designed the template better, they wouldn't have to...I need to keep working on trying to make things more transparent—the old me, back in my Python days, would be ashamed of what I have become!), and the parameters can be a bit esoteric. I've tried making a new template sample, to be included at T:TDYK and in the edit notice; there's an example of it <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:DYKsuggestion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:DYKsuggestion (page does not exist)">here</a>. I'm trying to get it small enough to fit in the edit notice, but big enough to provide relatively simple instructions that will cover as many "normal" applications as possible, and prominent instructions for where to find the more advanced stuff for those few users who do need to do something like nominate multiple articles. If you have a moment, could you take a look and let me know how you think this sample could be improved? </p><p>Thanks! —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-09T05:10:00.000Z-New_sample_DYKsugstrings?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn"></span>DYK for Juma and the Magic Jinn<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/9_December" class="mw-redirect" title="9 December">9 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Juma_and_the_Magic_Jinn" title="Juma and the Magic Jinn">Juma and the Magic Jinn</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Orlady 22:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Velika_Planina" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Velika_Planina-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Velika_Planina-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Velika Planina<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Velika_Planina-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_Velika_Planina"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/10_December" class="mw-redirect" title="10 December">10 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Velika_Planina" title="Velika Planina">Velika Planina</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_Velika_Planina" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_Velika_Planina"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T14:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_Velika_Planina"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Samuel McDowell<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/7_December" class="mw-redirect" title="7 December">7 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Samuel_McDowell" title="Samuel McDowell">Samuel McDowell</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T17:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Samuel_McDowell"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Toto of Nepi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/10_December" class="mw-redirect" title="10 December">10 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Toto_of_Nepi" title="Toto of Nepi">Toto of Nepi</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-10T23:32:00.000Z-DYK_for_Toto_of_Nepi"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_nomination_count" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_nomination_count-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_nomination_count-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z"></span>DYK nomination count<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_nomination_count-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_count"></span>In response to your message at WT:DYK about the number of current hooks: </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I'm not sure how MS handles newline characters, but I know if you count stuff in the edit window them it considers ====[[ to be the same as:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <pre>==== [[</pre> <p>(ie, the end of a header, and the beginning of an image below it). If that is the case in MS, it may have double-counted some noms. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_count" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_count"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-11T02:59:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_count"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra"></span>DYK for Auxiliary ship Olterra<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Auxiliary_ship_Olterra"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Auxiliary_ship_Olterra" class="mw-redirect" title="Auxiliary ship Olterra">Auxiliary ship Olterra</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Orlady 05:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer"></span>DYK for Guillermo Kalbreyer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Guillermo_Kalbreyer"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Guillermo_Kalbreyer" title="Guillermo Kalbreyer">Guillermo Kalbreyer</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Orlady 05:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland"><span id="DYK_for_Lambley.2C_Northumberland"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland"></span>DYK for Lambley, Northumberland<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Lambley,_Northumberland"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Lambley,_Northumberland" title="Lambley, Northumberland">Lambley, Northumberland</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Orlady 05:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness"></span>DYK for Castle Crags Wilderness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Castle_Crags_Wilderness"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Castle_Crags_Wilderness" title="Castle Crags Wilderness">Castle Crags Wilderness</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Orlady 05:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z"></span>DYK for List of rating scales for depression<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/List_of_rating_scales_for_depression" class="mw-redirect" title="List of rating scales for depression">List of rating scales for depression</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:41:00.000Z-DYK_for_List_of_rating_scales_for_depression"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_William_Wayte" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_William_Wayte-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_William_Wayte-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z"></span>DYK for William Wayte<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_William_Wayte-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_William_Wayte"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/William_Wayte" title="William Wayte">William Wayte</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_William_Wayte" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_William_Wayte"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_William_Wayte"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Werner Reinhart<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Werner_Reinhart" title="Werner Reinhart">Werner Reinhart</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-11T11:45:00.000Z-DYK_for_Werner_Reinhart"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Problem_with_DYK_hook" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problem_with_DYK_hook-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problem_with_DYK_hook-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z"></span>Problem with DYK hook<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problem_with_DYK_hook-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chamal_N-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z-Problem_with_DYK_hook"></span>Hi Suntag! There's a problem with the article you've nominated for DYK <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#Miracle_of_the_roses" title="Template talk:Did you know">here</a>. It will be going under expiring noms tomorrow, so can you address the issues quickly? Thanks and cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Chamal_N" title="User:Chamal N"><b><span style="color:#000080">C</span>h<span style="color:#0000FF">a</span><span style="color:#4169E1">m</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">a</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">l</span></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chamal_N" title="User talk:Chamal N"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Chamal_N-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z-Problem_with_DYK_hook" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chamal_N-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z-Problem_with_DYK_hook"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chamal_N-2008-12-11T12:19:00.000Z-Problem_with_DYK_hook"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z"></span>Article for Deletion - Maybe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe"></span>You expressed an intention some time ago to to develop my biography which I discovered only April 19 after it had been online for over two years. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier</a> Yesterday someone placed a tag on it which I interpret as saying someone must develop it or it will be deleted. Since it´s my biography, I have recused myself from editing it and I certainly cannot compel anyone to work it to reflect the many references which can be seen here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2003596&l=16beb&id=1294974109">http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2003596&l=16beb&id=1294974109</a> Is there anything you can do, please? <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z-Article_for_Deletion_-_Maybe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-11T16:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z"></span>The <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Notability" title="Template:Notability">notability</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag is a maintenance tag, not a deletion tag, and placed the article in a subcategory of <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_with_topics_of_unclear_notability" title="Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability">Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability</a>. In this case, the article is located <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Articles_with_topics_of_unclear_notability_from_December_2008&from=C">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Notability" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability">WikiProject Notability</a> uses those categories "to reduce the number of non-notable articles, get more editors involved and support those currently involved in fixing, merging, or deleting apparently non-notable articles." You also can try <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron" title="Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron">Article Rescue Squadron</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-11T16:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-11T16:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-11T16:41:00.000Z-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-11T13:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law"></span>DYK for Food in Hindu Law<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Food_in_Hindu_Law"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Food_in_Hindu_Law" class="mw-redirect" title="Food in Hindu Law">Food in Hindu Law</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Backslash Forwardslash 17:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis.2C_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Charles Cornwallis, 2nd Baron Cornwallis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rosiestep-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis" title="Charles Cornwallis, 2nd Baron Cornwallis">Charles Cornwallis, 2nd Baron Cornwallis</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Backslash Forwardslash 17:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><ul><li>Excellent hook! Thanks for nominating the article as I didn't give any thought to doing so myself after writing it. Cheers, --<a href="/wiki/User:Rosiestep" title="User:Rosiestep">Rosiestep</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rosiestep" title="User talk:Rosiestep">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Rosiestep-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rosiestep-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rosiestep-2008-12-11T17:57:00.000Z-DYK_for_Charles_Cornwallis,_2nd_Baron_Cornwallis"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" data-mw-thread-id="h-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="mw-redirect" title="Monarchy in Ancient India">Monarchy in Ancient India</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"></span>It actually is there, just presented as the piped link "<b><a href="/wiki/Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="mw-redirect" title="Monarchy in Ancient India">kingship</a></b>" (added <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ADid_you_know%2FNext_update&diff=257290980&oldid=257290558">here</a>) - it's currently the second hook at <a href="/wiki/T:DYK/N" class="mw-redirect" title="T:DYK/N">T:DYK/N</a>. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:JamieS93" title="User:JamieS93"><b><font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font></b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JamieS93" title="Special:Contributions/JamieS93">☆</a></sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JamieS93" title="User talk:JamieS93"><b><font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z-Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:39:00.000Z-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span>No problem. :-) I give credit to the {{<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Header" title="Wikipedia:Help desk/Header">Wikipedia:Help desk/Header</a>}} & <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Skiptotoc" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Skiptotoc">skiptotoc</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> templates when it came to making the "skip to bottom/top" formatting. ;-) <a href="/wiki/User:JamieS93" title="User:JamieS93"><b><font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font></b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JamieS93" title="Special:Contributions/JamieS93">☆</a></sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JamieS93" title="User talk:JamieS93"><b><font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:39:00.000Z-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:39:00.000Z-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:39:00.000Z-JamieS93-2008-12-11T20:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hiram_Leavitt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hiram_Leavitt-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hiram_Leavitt-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z"></span>Hiram Leavitt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hiram_Leavitt-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarmadukePercy-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z-Hiram_Leavitt"></span>Many thanks for the help with the Hiram Leavitt piece. And if you added the photo, thank you for that also. Take care and regards,<a href="/wiki/User:MarmadukePercy" title="User:MarmadukePercy">MarmadukePercy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarmadukePercy" title="User talk:MarmadukePercy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-MarmadukePercy-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z-Hiram_Leavitt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarmadukePercy-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z-Hiram_Leavitt"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarmadukePercy-2008-12-11T21:16:00.000Z-Hiram_Leavitt"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine"></span>DYK for U-101 class submarine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_U-101_class_submarine"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/U-101_class_submarine" class="mw-redirect" title="U-101 class submarine">U-101 class submarine</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Backslash Forwardslash 23:53, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine"></span>DYK for U-107 class submarine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_U-107_class_submarine"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/U-107_class_submarine" class="mw-redirect" title="U-107 class submarine">U-107 class submarine</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Backslash Forwardslash 23:53, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd"></span>DYK for Charles Willing Byrd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Charles_Willing_Byrd"></span></h2></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/11_December" class="mw-redirect" title="11 December">11 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Charles_Willing_Byrd" title="Charles Willing Byrd">Charles Willing Byrd</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> Backslash Forwardslash 23:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Monarchy in Ancient India<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/12_December" class="mw-redirect" title="12 December">12 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="mw-redirect" title="Monarchy in Ancient India">Monarchy in Ancient India</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Monarchy_in_Ancient_India"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Morpheeins" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Morpheeins-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Morpheeins-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Morpheeins<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Morpheeins-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Morpheeins"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/12_December" class="mw-redirect" title="12 December">12 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Morpheeins" class="mw-redirect" title="Morpheeins">Morpheeins</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Morpheeins" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Morpheeins"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Morpheeins"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Gerald Ford Supreme Court candidates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/12_December" class="mw-redirect" title="12 December">12 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates" title="Gerald Ford Supreme Court candidates">Gerald Ford Supreme Court candidates</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gerald_Ford_Supreme_Court_candidates"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Bianca_Riario" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Bianca Riario<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/12_December" class="mw-redirect" title="12 December">12 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Bianca_Riario" title="Bianca Riario">Bianca Riario</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T05:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bianca_Riario"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="White_Light" data-mw-thread-id="h-White_Light-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-White_Light-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z"></span>White Light<span data-mw-comment-end="h-White_Light-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z-White_Light"></span>I appreciate the thought, but I've struck <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#White_Light_.282008_film.29" title="Template talk:Did you know">your alt hook</a>. The sources don't support what you're saying. The house that was attacked only housed crew (not cast), so there's no evidence that Borsato was personally a victim of the attack. _ <a href="/wiki/User:MacGyverMagic" title="User:MacGyverMagic">Mgm</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MacGyverMagic" title="User talk:MacGyverMagic"><sup>(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z-White_Light" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z-White_Light"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z-White_Light"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-12T18:57:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z"></span>My ALT2 was a rewording of the original hook, which read "... that on the set of the Dutch film White Light, singer Marco Borsato's acting debut, was attacked?". You might want to strike the original hook as well. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-12T18:57:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-12T18:57:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-12T18:57:00.000Z-MacGyverMagic-2008-12-12T09:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt-2008-12-12T18:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt-2008-12-12T18:08:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Hiram Leavitt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt-2008-12-12T18:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-12T18:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Hiram_Leavitt"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/12_December" class="mw-redirect" title="12 December">12 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Hiram_Leavitt" title="Hiram Leavitt">Hiram Leavitt</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. 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If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:DYKBot" title="User:DYKBot">DYKBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DYKBot" title="User talk:DYKBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jonathan_Leavitt_(publisher)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jonathan_Leavitt_(publisher)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jonathan_Leavitt_(publisher)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Consumer Protection Safety Improvement Act<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act" class="mw-redirect" title="Consumer Protection Safety Improvement Act">Consumer Protection Safety Improvement Act</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:DYKBot" title="User:DYKBot">DYKBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DYKBot" title="User talk:DYKBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Consumer_Protection_Safety_Improvement_Act"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Acute decompensated heart failure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Acute_decompensated_heart_failure"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Acute_decompensated_heart_failure" title="Acute decompensated heart failure">Acute decompensated heart failure</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. 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If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Erasmus_Ommanney" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Erasmus_Ommanney"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Erasmus_Ommanney"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Miracle of the roses<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Miracle_of_the_roses" title="Miracle of the roses">Miracle of the roses</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-13T08:08:00.000Z-DYK_for_Miracle_of_the_roses"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_.28Ormond_Beach.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Granada Bridge (Ormond Beach)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)" title="Granada Bridge (Ormond Beach)">Granada Bridge (Ormond Beach)</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:DYKBot" title="User:DYKBot">DYKBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DYKBot" title="User talk:DYKBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_Granada_Bridge_(Ormond_Beach)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Thaumatichthys" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Thaumatichthys<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Thaumatichthys" title="Thaumatichthys">Thaumatichthys</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:DYKBot" title="User:DYKBot">DYKBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DYKBot" title="User talk:DYKBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Thaumatichthys"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Henry Frederick Stephenson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Henry_Frederick_Stephenson" title="Henry Frederick Stephenson">Henry Frederick Stephenson</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:DYKBot" title="User:DYKBot">DYKBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DYKBot" title="User talk:DYKBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Henry_Frederick_Stephenson"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Enos_Lowe" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Enos Lowe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Enos_Lowe" title="Enos Lowe">Enos Lowe</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:DYKBot" title="User:DYKBot">DYKBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DYKBot" title="User talk:DYKBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DYKBot-2008-12-13T14:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_Enos_Lowe"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_Problem" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_Problem-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_Problem-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z"></span>DYK Problem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_Problem-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z-DYK_Problem"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/25px-Symbol_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/38px-Symbol_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/50px-Symbol_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Hello! Your submission of <a href="/wiki/David_Ross_(businessman)" title="David Ross (businessman)">David Ross (businessman)</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">Did You Know nominations page</a> has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath <b><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK#David_Ross_(businessman)" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">your nomination's entry</a></b> and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <a href="/wiki/User:Grk1011" title="User:Grk1011">Grk1011/Stephen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grk1011" title="User talk:Grk1011">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z-DYK_Problem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z-DYK_Problem"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z-DYK_Problem"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T23:31:00.000Z-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z"></span>I have responded. <a href="/wiki/User:Grk1011" title="User:Grk1011">Grk1011/Stephen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grk1011" title="User talk:Grk1011">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T23:31:00.000Z-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T23:31:00.000Z-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grk1011-2008-12-13T23:31:00.000Z-Grk1011-2008-12-13T19:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FindMyPair.com" data-mw-thread-id="h-FindMyPair.com-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FindMyPair.com-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z"></span>FindMyPair.com<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FindMyPair.com-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Royalblue1-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z-FindMyPair.com"></span>Your comment: "Endorse - This version lacks a statement of importance/significance as required by A7. The article reads fine in that it has a history of the business (certainly not G11). However, Orangemike was correct to speedy deleted the article under A7. If someone adds a statement of importance/significance to the draft article, please place a note on my talk page and I will revisit my post here. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 09:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)" </p><p>I have added a statement of importance AND a new reference for the article, if being called "one of the most popular online communities" is not a statement of importance please clarifiy yourself and let me know what you would consider "important." (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Royalblue1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Royalblue1 (page does not exist)">Royalblue1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royalblue1" title="User talk:Royalblue1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Royalblue1-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z-FindMyPair.com" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Royalblue1-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z-FindMyPair.com"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Royalblue1-2008-12-13T21:12:00.000Z-FindMyPair.com"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" data-mw-thread-id="h-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z"><span id="Elections_in_England_and_Wales.2C_1949"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z"></span>Elections in England and Wales, 1949<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham_Lippiatt-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"></span>Thank you for nominating this article for DYK and improving it by writing the lead-in etc. I am not sure the fact of the LCC dead-heat really deserves to go on DYK. The Liberal seat made it a hung council and as I recall, Labour hung onto power through the use of the unelected Aldermen, so while the 64-64 draw between the two main parties was noteworthy as the results came in, there was no practical effect politically. If an in-line citation is needed for the dead heat, The Times of 9 April 1949 is the best one to quote. The headline was PARTIES DEAD HEAT IN LCC ELECTIONS. In fact I will addd that now anyway. Thanks again. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Graham_Lippiatt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Graham Lippiatt (page does not exist)">Graham Lippiatt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham_Lippiatt" title="User talk:Graham Lippiatt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Graham_Lippiatt-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham_Lippiatt-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham_Lippiatt-2008-12-13T21:19:00.000Z-Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_messages" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_messages-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_messages-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z"></span>DYK messages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_messages-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z-DYK_messages"></span>Suntag, thanks for your messages! I agree that these would be a nice and easy thing to put into a template—obviously you're getting to know how my mind works! I don't know how necessary it would be, since most of us usually keep a pretty close eye on T:TDYK anyway, but having the template certainly wouldn't hurt anything, and it would be totally optional...I can probably whip one up tonight. </p><p>I'm just on my way out the door, so I won't have a chance to formally review the noms until a bit later in the evening, but from my quick glance they all look pretty good now. Thanks for the update, —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z-DYK_messages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z-DYK_messages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z-DYK_messages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-14T00:00:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z"></span>Created! <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKre&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKre (page does not exist)">DYKre</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-14T00:00:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-14T00:00:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-14T00:00:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-13T21:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z"><span id="Columbia_Park.2C_Torrance.2C_California_GA_review"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California" title="Columbia Park, Torrance, California">Columbia Park, Torrance, California</a> GA review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apterygial-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review"></span>I don't know if you noticed, but I left my comments on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California/GA1" title="Talk:Columbia Park, Torrance, California/GA1">review page</a> a few days ago, and put the article on hold. You probably already know this, but I wanted to make sure! If so, disregard this message. <span style="font-family:Impact;"><a href="/wiki/User:Apterygial" title="User:Apterygial"><span style="color:#006400;">Aptery</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apterygial" title="User talk:Apterygial"><span style="color:#006400;">gial</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Apterygial-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apterygial-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apterygial-2008-12-13T23:57:00.000Z-Columbia_Park,_Torrance,_California_GA_review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Harcourt Mortimer Bengough<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough" title="Harcourt Mortimer Bengough">Harcourt Mortimer Bengough</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Harcourt_Mortimer_Bengough"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Trading_halt" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Trading_halt-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Trading_halt-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Trading halt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Trading_halt-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trading_halt"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Trading_halt" title="Trading halt">Trading halt</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trading_halt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trading_halt"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:58:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trading_halt"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Galoter_process" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Galoter_process-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Galoter_process-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Galoter process<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Galoter_process-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Galoter_process"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Galoter_process" title="Galoter process">Galoter process</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Galoter_process" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Galoter_process"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Galoter_process"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales.2C_1949"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Elections in England and Wales, 1949<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" class="mw-redirect" title="Elections in England and Wales, 1949">Elections in England and Wales, 1949</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T03:59:00.000Z-DYK_for_Elections_in_England_and_Wales,_1949"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Twist_lifts" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Twist_lifts-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Twist_lifts-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Twist lifts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Twist_lifts-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Twist_lifts"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Twist_lifts" class="mw-redirect" title="Twist lifts">Twist lifts</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Twist_lifts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Twist_lifts"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Twist_lifts"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Ashley Day Leavitt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ashley_Day_Leavitt" title="Ashley Day Leavitt">Ashley Day Leavitt</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ashley_Day_Leavitt"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Tom Krieglstein<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T10:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Tom_Krieglstein"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tom_Krieglstein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tom Krieglstein (page does not exist)">Tom Krieglstein</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. 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If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T16:07:00.000Z-DYK_for_Eugene_Goodman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T16:07:00.000Z-DYK_for_Eugene_Goodman"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T16:07:00.000Z-DYK_for_Eugene_Goodman"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z"></span>DYK for El Mashad v. Bush<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/El_Mashad_v._Bush" title="El Mashad v. Bush">El Mashad v. Bush</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_El_Mashad_v._Bush"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z"></span>DYK for California Avocado Commission<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/California_Avocado_Commission" title="California Avocado Commission">California Avocado Commission</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:12:00.000Z-DYK_for_California_Avocado_Commission"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z"></span>DYK for History of the flags of Romania<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/History_of_the_flags_of_Romania" title="History of the flags of Romania">History of the flags of Romania</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:13:00.000Z-DYK_for_History_of_the_flags_of_Romania"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Preflexes" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Preflexes-2008-12-14T22:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Preflexes-2008-12-14T22:14:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Preflexes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Preflexes-2008-12-14T22:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-14T22:14:00.000Z-DYK_for_Preflexes"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/14_December" class="mw-redirect" title="14 December">14 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Preflexes" title="Preflexes">Preflexes</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. 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If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_Taping_River" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_Taping_River"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_Taping_River"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Careysburg.2C_Liberia"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Careysburg, Liberia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/15_December" class="mw-redirect" title="15 December">15 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Careysburg,_Liberia" title="Careysburg, Liberia">Careysburg, Liberia</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:17:00.000Z-DYK_for_Careysburg,_Liberia"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Walter_Balderson" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Walter Balderson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/15_December" class="mw-redirect" title="15 December">15 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Walter_Balderson" title="Walter Balderson">Walter Balderson</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Walter_Balderson"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_NGC_6118" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_NGC_6118-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_NGC_6118-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z"></span>DYK for NGC 6118<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_NGC_6118-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_NGC_6118"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/15_December" class="mw-redirect" title="15 December">15 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/NGC_6118" title="NGC 6118">NGC 6118</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_NGC_6118" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_NGC_6118"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T04:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_NGC_6118"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re_DYKBot" data-mw-thread-id="h-re_DYKBot-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re_DYKBot-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z"></span>re DYKBot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re_DYKBot-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ameliorate!-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z-re_DYKBot"></span>Hi Suntag, I've taken a look and I can't see any definitive reasons why it would do that. I've made a change to the code that might fix it but I doubt it. Time will tell. At the moment it seems like it would be best if I start recoding DYKBot from scratch, it's full of bugs and the code is such a mess that I can't reliably fix them. That will have to wait though. Anyway, let me know if it still replaces any credits after my attempted fix. Cheers, <span style="font-family:tahoma;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;">~ <a href="/wiki/User:Ameliorate!" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ameliorate!"><span style="color:black;">User:Ameliorate!</span></a></span> <sup>(with the !) (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ameliorate!" title="User talk:Ameliorate!">talk</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ameliorate!-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z-re_DYKBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ameliorate!-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z-re_DYKBot"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ameliorate!-2008-12-15T08:24:00.000Z-re_DYKBot"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_.28Lexus.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Ball Bearing (Lexus)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/13_December" class="mw-redirect" title="13 December">13 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)" class="mw-redirect" title="Ball Bearing (Lexus)">Ball Bearing (Lexus)</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> FYI, Octave8 <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOctave8&diff=257610468&oldid=256283169">duly received the credit notices from the bot</a>, so did Hassocks5489. You and the article talk pages were the only ones left. --<a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T08:50:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ball_Bearing_(Lexus)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Fairview_Creek" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Fairview Creek<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/15_December" class="mw-redirect" title="15 December">15 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Fairview_Creek" title="Fairview Creek">Fairview Creek</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T16:29:00.000Z-DYK_for_Fairview_Creek"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Robert_S._Beightler" data-mw-thread-id="h-Robert_S._Beightler-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Robert_S._Beightler-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z"></span>Robert S. Beightler<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Robert_S._Beightler-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z-Robert_S._Beightler"></span>Looks like it's been accepted (it's in one of the queues). <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Case" title="User talk:Daniel Case">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z-Robert_S._Beightler" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z-Robert_S._Beightler"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-15T16:35:00.000Z-Robert_S._Beightler"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_David_Ross_.28businessman.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z"></span>DYK for David Ross (businessman)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/15_December" class="mw-redirect" title="15 December">15 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/David_Ross_(businessman)" title="David Ross (businessman)">David Ross (businessman)</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-15T22:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_David_Ross_(businessman)"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Robert S. Beightler<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/16_December" class="mw-redirect" title="16 December">16 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Robert_S._Beightler" title="Robert S. Beightler">Robert S. Beightler</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T04:38:00.000Z-DYK_for_Robert_S._Beightler"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Colman nepos Cracavist<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/16_December" class="mw-redirect" title="16 December">16 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Colman_nepos_Cracavist" title="Colman nepos Cracavist">Colman nepos Cracavist</a></b></i>, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-16T16:48:00.000Z-DYK_for_Colman_nepos_Cracavist"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="False_vandalism_accusation" data-mw-thread-id="h-False_vandalism_accusation-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-False_vandalism_accusation-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z"></span>False vandalism accusation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-False_vandalism_accusation-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z-False_vandalism_accusation"></span>Hi Mr. Suntag, it's alright. I have already left him 2 messages and I'm sure he got my message. It's few days old and we don't need to bring that up again. And thanks for your support on this small issue and on the Sonnal Thaan Kathala deletion review page. Cheers. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Selvaraaj&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Selvaraaj (page does not exist)">Selvaraaj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selvaraaj" title="User talk:Selvaraaj">talk</a>) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment was added at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z-False_vandalism_accusation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)</a>.</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z-False_vandalism_accusation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-16T19:59:00.000Z-False_vandalism_accusation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_vandalism_deal" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_vandalism_deal-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_vandalism_deal-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z"></span>About the vandalism deal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_vandalism_deal-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal"></span>It was simply a mistake. But I don't get his second edit, where he made that external link header, he just wrote something in caps, it looked like vandalism to me. I tried to undo his second one but I accidentally undid his first one with it.--<a href="/wiki/User:Megaman_en_m" title="User:Megaman en m">Megaman en m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Megaman_en_m" title="User talk:Megaman en m">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T21:00:00.000Z-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Thank god it's you, I'm talking about when you replied to my talk page. I've been having trouble with some guy who kept changing his IP address. Anyway I'm glad that this is resolved.--<a href="/wiki/User:Megaman_en_m" title="User:Megaman en m">Megaman en m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Megaman_en_m" title="User talk:Megaman en m">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T21:00:00.000Z-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T21:00:00.000Z-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T21:00:00.000Z-Megaman_en_m-2008-12-16T20:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-17T10:51:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal"></span>I added the capital text regarding manufacturer's information from their website but initially forgot to enter the URL (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.bel-india.com/index.aspx?q=&sectionid=55">[8]</a>). Anyway lets get over with this. I brought it up not for any vengence, but merely to prove a point that vandalism / misdeeds by others shouldn't be made a reason for a (genuine) article to be deleted. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Selvaraaj&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Selvaraaj (page does not exist)">Selvaraaj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selvaraaj" title="User talk:Selvaraaj">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-17T10:51:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-17T10:51:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Selvaraaj-2008-12-17T10:51:00.000Z-About_the_vandalism_deal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_note" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_note-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_note-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z"></span>Your note<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_note-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jayjg-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z-Your_note"></span>Thanks for alerting me to that, and for your comments there. <a href="/wiki/User:Jayjg" title="User:Jayjg">Jayjg </a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jayjg" title="User talk:Jayjg"><small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</small></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Jayjg-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z-Your_note" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jayjg-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z-Your_note"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jayjg-2008-12-17T03:05:00.000Z-Your_note"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z"></span>Opinions on the way to Consensus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus"></span>Suntag, I just noticed this am you modified the mast head in my <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ray_Joseph_Cormier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Ray Joseph Cormier (page does not exist)">Talk:Ray_Joseph_Cormier</a> It is an improvement, but I do think the facebook link to where many of the references can be seen and read should also be prominent. </p><p>As you know, the talk page and the Article lay dormant for a long time due to lack of interest. I checked it from time to time to see if anyone came forward to improve it. If you look at the history it is the same two Editors who have been constantly challenging its inclusion in Wikipedia. Naturally, I have to stand guard until someone interested in improvement volunteers. </p><p>The latest tactic was placing the Notability tag on the article and it is time for other Editors to post an opinion to reach consensus. I do believe consensus is reached when more Editors agree, either for or against the issue. </p><p>So far the two Editors are against recognizing the Article and two say the article meets Wikipedia requirements for inclusion. Because it´s my BLP, my opinion is biased. Peace <a href="/wiki/User:DoDaCanaDa" title="User:DoDaCanaDa">DoDaCanaDa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoDaCanaDa" title="User talk:DoDaCanaDa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoDaCanaDa-2008-12-17T14:49:00.000Z-Opinions_on_the_way_to_Consensus"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Subway_beating" data-mw-thread-id="h-Subway_beating-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Subway_beating-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Subway beating<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Subway_beating-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z-Subway_beating"></span>Thanks for helping with the article and its DYK nom. I was getting kinda lonely at that article :-)--<i><a href="/wiki/User:Brewcrewer" title="User:Brewcrewer"><span style="font family:Arial;color:green">brew</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer" title="Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:#2E82F4">crewer</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brewcrewer" title="User talk:Brewcrewer">(yada, yada)</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z-Subway_beating" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z-Subway_beating"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-17T16:27:00.000Z-Subway_beating"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_news" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_news-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_news-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z"></span>Template news<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_news-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z-Template_news"></span>Thanks for the note. Also, I just wanted to let you know if you haven't noticed, Gatoclass and I have been discussing (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DYK#Credit_mistake" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:DYK">here</a>) updating <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKsug&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKsug (page does not exist)">DYKsug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to make it auto-generate credit templates so the promoter can simply copy-and-paste them over to Next (this originally came up because \ / pointed out that some people have been getting credited as creator when they should have been credited as nominator, which we chalked up to human error in populating Next). Since you've been heavily involved in the upkeep of the template, you might be interested in seeing the changes (currently all the changes are at <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Politizer/DYKsugdev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Politizer/DYKsugdev (page does not exist)">User:Politizer/DYKsugdev</a>, not the real template). —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z-Template_news" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z-Template_news"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-18T17:54:00.000Z-Template_news"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z"><span id="Peer_Review_3_.28Odexed.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z"></span>Peer Review 3 (<a href="/wiki/Odexed" class="mw-redirect" title="Odexed">Odexed</a>)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)"></span>Thanks for assisting in the improvement for the article <a href="/wiki/Odex%27s_actions_against_file-sharing" title="Odex's actions against file-sharing">Odex's actions against file-sharing</a>, and please accept my apologies for the previous lack of response and edits due to dealing with real-life issues. I'm pleased to let you know that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Odex%27s_actions_against_file-sharing/archive3" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Odex's actions against file-sharing/archive3">the third PR</a> for the article is now up, and looking forward to hearing feedback from you so that it can be brought over to FAC soon. - <i>Best regards</i>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mailer_diablo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mailer diablo">Mailer Diablo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mailer_diablo-2008-12-18T22:56:00.000Z-Peer_Review_3_(Odexed)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Updated_DYK_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Updated_DYK_template-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Updated_DYK_template-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z"></span>Updated DYK template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Updated_DYK_template-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z-Updated_DYK_template"></span>Hi, I'd just like to let you know what the template <code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:DYKsug&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:DYKsug (page does not exist)">DYKsug</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code> was just updated with a new feature: now, for all DYK nominations that include only one article, it auto-generates the credit templates (<code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:DYKmake" title="Template:DYKmake">DYKmake</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code> and <code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:DYKnom" title="Template:DYKnom">DYKnom</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code>), which the person moving the hook to Next may simply cut and past from T:TDYK directly into next. This only happens with single-article nominations; if the nomination has more than one article, there will be a message in the template saying "Credits must be done manually by the person moving this nomination to Next" or something like that. It will probably be a few days before you start seeing the auto-generated credit templates, since the template was only just updated and only the new nominations will reflect it; the first several times you see auto-generated credit templates, you may want to double-check the nom as you are promoting it, just to make sure the credits are correct. </p><p>There have been some other minor changes—mainly, now if a DYK nominator lists himself as both "creator/expander" and "nominator," the "nominator" field ends up blank (so that what gets displayed is "Created by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:User&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:User (page does not exist)">User</a>, self nom" rather than "Created by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:User&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:User (page does not exist)">User</a>, nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:User&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:User (page does not exist)">User</a>." Also, the fields, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|collaborator=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|collaborator2=</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|collaborator3=</code> have been replaced with the more intuitive <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|creator2=</code>, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|creator3=</code>, and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|creator4=</code>. </p><p>Please let me know if you experience any problems with the new template. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z-Updated_DYK_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z-Updated_DYK_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-19T15:31:00.000Z-Updated_DYK_template"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_a_bunch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_a_bunch-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_a_bunch-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z"></span>Thanks a bunch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_a_bunch-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z-Thanks_a_bunch"></span>for your help in passing the article through the DYK and for the sources. Best, --<i><a href="/wiki/User:Brewcrewer" title="User:Brewcrewer"><span style="font family:Arial;color:green">brew</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer" title="Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:#2E82F4">crewer</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brewcrewer" title="User talk:Brewcrewer">(yada, yada)</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z-Thanks_a_bunch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z-Thanks_a_bunch"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brewcrewer-2008-12-19T19:37:00.000Z-Thanks_a_bunch"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Renaming_DYKsuggestion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Renaming_DYKsuggestion-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Renaming_DYKsuggestion-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Renaming DYKsuggestion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Renaming_DYKsuggestion-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z-Renaming_DYKsuggestion"></span>I left a response to your comments <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:DYKsuggestion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:DYKsuggestion (page does not exist)">here</a>. Thanks, —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z-Renaming_DYKsuggestion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z-Renaming_DYKsuggestion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-19T21:28:00.000Z-Renaming_DYKsuggestion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z"><span id="Van_Buren_State_Park_.28Ohio.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Van Buren State Park (Ohio)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)"></span>Hi, I nominated <a href="/wiki/Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)" title="Van Buren State Park (Ohio)">Van Buren State Park (Ohio)</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=prev&oldid=258681088">here</a> for the DYK page on Dec. 17th. I know that you checked it and made a nice comment about the pic. I've been checking the nomination for any problems. Today I checked and found the nomination to be gone from the Dec. 17 section and also (apparently) gone from everywhere else on the DYK. Could you look into this for me? Thanks.--<a href="/wiki/User:Dincher" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dincher">Dincher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dincher" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dincher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)</a></s><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z-Van_Buren_State_Park_(Ohio)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:42:00.000Z-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Nevermind. I found it. The new DYK system is still new to me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dincher" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dincher">Dincher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dincher" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dincher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:42:00.000Z-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:42:00.000Z-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:42:00.000Z-Dincher-2008-12-19T22:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Murder of Jan Pawel Pietrzak<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/19_December" class="mw-redirect" title="19 December">19 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak" class="mw-redirect" title="Murder of Jan Pawel Pietrzak">Murder of Jan Pawel Pietrzak</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)</a> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256396942"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-19T23:52:00.000Z-DYK_for_Murder_of_Jan_Pawel_Pietrzak"></span> </p><div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Image:Constudevent.gif" title="Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Suntag. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Image:Constudevent.gif" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop">Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Suntag/Archive 1">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256396942"> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Image:Constudevent.gif" title="Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Suntag. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Image:Constudevent.gif" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop">Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Suntag/Archive 1">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Christmas_tree_stands" data-mw-thread-id="h-Christmas_tree_stands-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Christmas_tree_stands-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z"></span>Christmas tree stands<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Christmas_tree_stands-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christmas_tree_stand&diff=259477767&oldid=259429115"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvoShandor-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z-Christmas_tree_stands"></span>Bravo</a> Suntag! Nice work. You should add your name to the DYK so you get credit too. --<a href="/wiki/User:IvoShandor" title="User:IvoShandor">IvoShandor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvoShandor" title="User talk:IvoShandor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-IvoShandor-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z-Christmas_tree_stands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvoShandor-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z-Christmas_tree_stands"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvoShandor-2008-12-22T05:54:00.000Z-Christmas_tree_stands"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Favor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Favor-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Favor-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Favor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Favor-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z-Favor"></span>Hey Suntag, I'm going to be in the car all day and I was wondering if you could keep an eye on my talk page for me when you have a moment. Specifically, there is a troll named <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnnysmitthy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnnysmitthy (page does not exist)">Johnnysmitthy</a> who has been posting on my page trying to get a rise out of me, and I decided to revert all his messages on sight (and have made him aware of this), so if you see him posting on my talk page I give you permission to undo it (you can use the diff of this message if you need to show that I gave you permission). The user may or may not have other socks (see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ben_Tillman&diff=prev&oldid=259496316">this</a>) so if you see stuff that might be the same user you can use your discretion. </p><p>Thanks in advance, and have a good day, —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z-Favor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z-Favor"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z-Favor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-22T13:47:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z"></span>OK. Have a nice car trip. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-22T13:47:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-22T13:47:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-22T13:47:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-22T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Accolade" data-mw-thread-id="h-Accolade"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Accolade"></span>Accolade<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Accolade"></span></h2></div> <p>Thanks for <a href="/wiki/Accolade" title="Accolade">accolade</a>. I'll keep the "snappy" for the future. I believe it is now a record, that I broke from the 8-article hook of User:Gatoclass.--14:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Love_Systems" data-mw-thread-id="h-Love_Systems-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Love_Systems-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z"></span>Love Systems<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Love_Systems-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z-Love_Systems"></span>Hi Suntag, </p><p>I've been working on a company page and I could use some feedback on the page. I've followed the guidelines of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Corp" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Corp">WP:Corp</a> but I'm not sure if everything is fine. If you have time to review it, I would really appreciate that. The page in questions is <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coaster7/Love_Systems">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Coaster7/Love_Systems</a>. Thanks in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:Coaster7" title="User:Coaster7">Coaster7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coaster7" title="User talk:Coaster7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z-Love_Systems" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z-Love_Systems"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z-Love_Systems"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z"></span>I answered on the draft talk page. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z-Coaster7-2008-12-22T21:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coaster7-2008-12-30T20:52:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z"></span>Thanks a lot for the feedback. It really helped shape the article into a better written version that is up now. Before I'm going to submit it to DRV to get it back up I would like to see if I can improve anything. Thanks a lot Suntag, it's much appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Coaster7" title="User:Coaster7">Coaster7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coaster7" title="User talk:Coaster7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Coaster7-2008-12-30T20:52:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coaster7-2008-12-30T20:52:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coaster7-2008-12-30T20:52:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z"></span>DYK hooks with 5 or more DYK articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles"></span>FYI; I've moved this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Hall_of_Fame" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Hall of Fame">Wikipedia:Did you know/Hall of Fame</a>. A better place, I think. --<a href="/wiki/User:PFHLai" title="User:PFHLai">PFHLai</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PFHLai" title="User talk:PFHLai">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z-DYK_hooks_with_5_or_more_DYK_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z"></span>Seems like a good idea. Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z-PFHLai-2008-12-23T00:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AlbertHerring-2008-12-23T03:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z"></span>Done. --<a href="/wiki/User:AlbertHerring" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AlbertHerring">User:AlbertHerring</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:AlbertHerring" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:AlbertHerring">Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-AlbertHerring-2008-12-23T03:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AlbertHerring-2008-12-23T03:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AlbertHerring-2008-12-23T03:06:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T01:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Santa_Claus,_Arizona" data-mw-thread-id="h-Santa_Claus,_Arizona-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z"><span id="Santa_Claus.2C_Arizona"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Santa_Claus,_Arizona-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Santa_Claus,_Arizona" title="Santa Claus, Arizona">Santa Claus, Arizona</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Santa_Claus,_Arizona-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z-Santa_Claus,_Arizona"></span>Interesting article. And it was nice of you to help out on the Love System or whatever that article is called. Happy Holidays. <a href="/wiki/User:ChildofMidnight" title="User:ChildofMidnight">ChildofMidnight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChildofMidnight" title="User talk:ChildofMidnight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z-Santa_Claus,_Arizona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z-Santa_Claus,_Arizona"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-23T02:23:00.000Z-Santa_Claus,_Arizona"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_achievement" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_achievement-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_achievement-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z"></span>My achievement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_achievement-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z-My_achievement"></span>Thanks. As if I don't need more proof I waste too much time here ... :-). </p><p>I suppose the number of total DYKs table should be updated to ... after almost a month without any new hooks (because of two articles, both of which had been on DYK, which I have been working on for possible future GA/FA status), I'm back in the game and I have two on the page, so I'm closing in on 170. With luck I expect to break 200 by the end of January. <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Case" title="User:Daniel Case">Daniel Case</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Case" title="User talk:Daniel Case">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z-My_achievement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z-My_achievement"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel_Case-2008-12-23T05:32:00.000Z-My_achievement"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_TouchWave" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_TouchWave-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_TouchWave-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z"></span>DYK for TouchWave<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_TouchWave-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z-DYK_for_TouchWave"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/23_December" class="mw-redirect" title="23 December">23 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/TouchWave" title="TouchWave">TouchWave</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z-DYK_for_TouchWave" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z-DYK_for_TouchWave"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-23T06:46:00.000Z-DYK_for_TouchWave"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Another_project_for_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_project_for_you-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_project_for_you-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z"></span>Another project for you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_project_for_you-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z-Another_project_for_you"></span>Suntag, I noticed your conversation with Daniel Case, and I just had an idea that seems like it might be up your alley.... I don't know how we would go about actually implementing this or keeping track of these kinds of things, but maybe it would be cool to have a list of DYK articles that go on to make GA or FA. (since the DYK credit template is transcluded in the talk page, the easiest way might be to have a bot that goes through all pages where that is transcluded, and return all pages that also have GA or FA in their <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:ArticleHistory" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:ArticleHistory">ArticleHistory</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>.) Of course, who knows, maybe such a list would just be embarrassing (what if we find that 95% of DYK articles stagnate and get ignored after their big day?) but if not, it may be fun to think about. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z-Another_project_for_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z-Another_project_for_you"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z-Another_project_for_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T17:11:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z"></span>I posted a request at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests#DYK_success_in_leading_to_GA_and_FA_articles" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests">Wikipedia:Bot requests</a>. Please revise <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dyktalk" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Dyktalk">Dyktalk</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> with <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|GA=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|FA=</code> that will populate <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Did_you_know_articles_that_are_good_articles" title="Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles that are good articles">Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles that are good articles</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Did_you_know_articles_that_are_featured_articles" title="Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles that are featured articles">Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles that are featured articles</a>. Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-23T17:11:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T17:11:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T17:11:00.000Z-Politizer-2008-12-23T16:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="admin" data-mw-thread-id="h-admin-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-admin-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z"></span>admin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-admin-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z-admin"></span>Hey. I've seen your edits pretty frequently of late and find them to be very impressive. As a result, I was wondering if you were considering adminship over at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA">WP:RFA</a>. I'll gladly nom you if you want, let me know. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizardman" title="User:Wizardman"><span style="color:#060"><i><b>Wizardman</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z-admin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z-admin"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z-admin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:29:00.000Z-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z"></span>First, let me know what you would plan to use the tools for, so I can make sure you have the appropriate experience. I'll write up the nomination statement and post it here, you'll just have to answer the questions and transclude it. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizardman" title="User:Wizardman"><span style="color:#060"><i><b>Wizardman</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:29:00.000Z-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:29:00.000Z-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:29:00.000Z-Wizardman-2008-12-23T17:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="boilerplate metadata" id="rfa" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> <b><a href="/wiki/User:Wizardman" title="User:Wizardman"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z-admin"></span>Wizardman</a> would like to nominate you to become an administrator.</b> Please visit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship</a> to see what this process entails, and then <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wizardman" title="User talk:Wizardman">contact Wizardman</a> to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Suntag" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Suntag">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Suntag</a></b>. If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.</div> <dl><dd>Thanks for the nomination. I'll be gone for the rest of the day. I'll try to get to the nomination this evening. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z-admin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z-admin"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z-admin"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dank55-2008-12-25T19:40:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z"></span>It's "had undone", not "had undid", Suntag. Wehwalt is asking you to provide some information; even though I don't agree with everything he says, it would be helpful if you would figure out what he's asking for and give it to him. (I'm watchlisting for a few days.) - Dan <a href="/wiki/User:Dank55" title="User:Dank55">Dank55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dank55" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dank55">send/receive</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dank55-2008-12-25T19:40:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dank55-2008-12-25T19:40:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dank55-2008-12-25T19:40:00.000Z-Suntag-2008-12-23T19:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_hook_count" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_hook_count-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_hook_count-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span>DYK hook count<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_hook_count-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z-DYK_hook_count"></span>Hello, </p><p>Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/WikiStatsBOT#Discussion" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/WikiStatsBOT">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/WikiStatsBOT#Discussion</a> and comment on how often the bot you requested needs too update its stats. </p><p>Thank you --<a href="/wiki/User:ThaddeusB" title="User:ThaddeusB">ThaddeusB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThaddeusB" title="User talk:ThaddeusB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z-DYK_hook_count" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z-DYK_hook_count"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z-DYK_hook_count"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-21T05:00:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span>FYI, the bot is now live (in trial). <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/DYK_hook_count" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/DYK hook count">Wikipedia:Did_you_know/DYK_hook_count</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:ThaddeusB" title="User:ThaddeusB">ThaddeusB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThaddeusB" title="User talk:ThaddeusB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-21T05:00:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-21T05:00:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-21T05:00:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-23T20:10:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span>The new format is up and running. Let me know of any further changes you desire. --<a href="/wiki/User:ThaddeusB" title="User:ThaddeusB">ThaddeusB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThaddeusB" title="User talk:ThaddeusB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-23T20:10:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-23T20:10:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThaddeusB-2008-12-23T20:10:00.000Z-ThaddeusB-2008-12-12T19:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GAN_done" data-mw-thread-id="h-GAN_done-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GAN_done-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z"></span>GAN done<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GAN_done-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mitchazenia-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z-GAN_done"></span>I reviewed <a href="/wiki/Santa_Claus,_Arizona" title="Santa Claus, Arizona">Santa Claus, Arizona</a> for you. It is now <b>on hold</b>. Thanks for nominating!<span style="font-family:Arial; font-size:small; color:orange;">Mitch</span><b>32</b><span style="font-family:Arial; font-size:small; color:orange;"><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User:Mitchazenia" title="User:Mitchazenia"><span style="color:orange;">Go Syracuse</span></a>)</sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mitchazenia-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z-GAN_done" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mitchazenia-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z-GAN_done"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mitchazenia-2008-12-23T23:02:00.000Z-GAN_done"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction.2C_Arizona"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Grasshopper Junction, Arizona<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/24_December" class="mw-redirect" title="24 December">24 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona" title="Grasshopper Junction, Arizona">Grasshopper Junction, Arizona</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-24T01:31:00.000Z-DYK_for_Grasshopper_Junction,_Arizona"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Best_Wishes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Best_Wishes-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Best_Wishes-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z"></span>Best Wishes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Best_Wishes-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victuallers-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z-Best_Wishes"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:Error mw:File/Thumb"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Mars_celebrations.jpg" class="new" title="File:Mars celebrations.jpg"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="180">File:Mars celebrations.jpg</span></a><figcaption>Best wishes and a great new year <a href="/wiki/User:Victuallers" title="User:Victuallers">Victuallers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victuallers" title="User talk:Victuallers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Victuallers-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z-Best_Wishes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victuallers-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z-Best_Wishes"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victuallers-2008-12-24T16:06:00.000Z-Best_Wishes"></span></figcaption></figure> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z"></span>Trial of Lex Wotton GAN on Hold<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nehrams2020-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold"></span>I have reviewed the article and left comments on the talk page. Once the issues have been addressed, I will pass the article. The article will be on hold for seven days, but it can be extended if necessary. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or when all of the issues have been addressed. Happy editing! --<a href="/wiki/User:Nehrams2020" title="User:Nehrams2020">Nehrams2020</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nehrams2020" title="User talk:Nehrams2020">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Nehrams2020-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nehrams2020-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nehrams2020-2008-12-25T00:07:00.000Z-Trial_of_Lex_Wotton_GAN_on_Hold"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merry_Christmas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merry_Christmas-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merry_Christmas-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z"></span>Merry Christmas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merry_Christmas-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Nobody-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikisanta.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f9/Wikisanta.jpg/80px-Wikisanta.jpg" decoding="async" width="80" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f9/Wikisanta.jpg/121px-Wikisanta.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f9/Wikisanta.jpg/161px-Wikisanta.jpg 2x" data-file-width="174" data-file-height="216"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:A_Nobody" title="User:A Nobody">A Nobody</a><sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Nobody" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:A Nobody">My talk</a></i></sup> is wishing you a <a href="/wiki/Mary_Poppins" title="Mary Poppins">Merry</a> <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas">Christmas</a>! This greeting (and season) promotes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a> and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas">Merry Christmas</a>, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow! <br/> </p><p>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUBST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUBST">subst</a>:<a href="/wiki/User:Flaming/MC2008" title="User:Flaming/MC2008">User:Flaming/MC2008</a>}} to their talk page with a friendly message. </p> </div><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:A_Nobody" title="User:A Nobody">A Nobody</a><sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_Nobody" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:A Nobody">My talk</a></i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-A_Nobody-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Nobody-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Nobody-2008-12-25T02:48:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RE:_Q9" data-mw-thread-id="h-RE:_Q9-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RE:_Q9-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z"></span>RE: Q9<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RE:_Q9-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z-RE:_Q9"></span>Please take as long as you need. Its a very busy time of year and your RfA still has ages to run yet! Merry christmas :-) <b>John Sloan</b> (<a href="/wiki/User:John_Sloan" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Sloan">view</a> / <a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Sloan" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:John Sloan">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z-RE:_Q9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z-RE:_Q9"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z-RE:_Q9"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-27T01:32:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z"></span>Hi again, thanks for taking the time to answer my question! I just have one follow up question that I have posted at your RfA. Once this is answered, I shall add my !vote. Again, thanks! :-) <b>John Sloan</b> (<a href="/wiki/User:John_Sloan" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Sloan">view</a> / <a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Sloan" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:John Sloan">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-John_Sloan-2008-12-27T01:32:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 27 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-27T01:32:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-27T01:32:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-25T21:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Santa_Claus.2C_Arizona"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Santa Claus, Arizona<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/25_December" class="mw-redirect" title="25 December">25 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Santa_Claus,_Arizona" title="Santa Claus, Arizona">Santa Claus, Arizona</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Santa_Claus,_Arizona"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Christmas tree stand<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/25_December" class="mw-redirect" title="25 December">25 December</a>, <a href="/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Christmas_tree_stand" title="Christmas tree stand">Christmas tree stand</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-2008-12-25T22:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Christmas_tree_stand"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rfa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rfa-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rfa-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z"></span>Rfa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rfa-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AtheWeatherman-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z-Rfa"></span>Good luck! May hit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:100" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:100">WP:100</a>! Sure you will be fine. <a href="/wiki/User:AtheWeatherman" title="User:AtheWeatherman">Andy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AtheWeatherman" title="User talk:AtheWeatherman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-AtheWeatherman-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z-Rfa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AtheWeatherman-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z-Rfa"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AtheWeatherman-2008-12-26T19:12:00.000Z-Rfa"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z"></span>A question mis-posted to WP:RFA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidwr-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA"></span>In case you missed it before I reverted it, an anonymous editor has what looks like a personal, non-RFA question for you. See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3ARequests_for_adminship&diff=260327532&oldid=260310761">diff</a>. I'm just the messenger. <a href="/wiki/User:Davidwr" title="User:Davidwr">davidwr</a>/<small><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidwr" title="User talk:Davidwr">talk</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Davidwr" title="Special:Contributions/Davidwr">contribs</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/davidwr" title="Special:EmailUser/davidwr">e-mail</a>)</small></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidwr-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 27 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidwr-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidwr-2008-12-27T15:19:00.000Z-A_question_mis-posted_to_WP:RFA"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gonna_be_away_for_a_while" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z"></span>Gonna be away for a while<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Politizer-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"></span>Hey Suntag, I just wanted to let you know, I will be traveling and visiting people from now until January 12, so I will only be on WP intermittently. Is it ok if I leave a note on my page telling people to leave a message either with you or at WT:DYK if they experience any urgent template problems? (Normally I would say I'd just leave a message telling people to e-mail me, but since I might only be at the computer at all once a day or so, and on a few days I'll be driving all day, I probably won't be able to respond to urgent requests quickly enough) </p><p>Also, Gatoclass and I have been discussing some changes to the template (back-and-forth between my talk page and his); I might not get around to implementing them until after my own schedule settles down, but anyway, just a heads-up. —<a href="/wiki/User:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Politizer">Politizer</a> <small><sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Politizer" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Politizer">talk</a></b></sup></small>/<small><sub><b><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politizer" title="Special:Contributions/Politizer">contribs</a></b></sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Politizer-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Politizer-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Politizer-2008-12-27T19:26:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Dyk25.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Dyk25.svg/70px-Dyk25.svg.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="133" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Dyk25.svg/105px-Dyk25.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Dyk25.svg/140px-Dyk25.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="210" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The 25 <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">DYK</a> Medal</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Well I've never given the 25 and the 50 medals at the same time, but there is always a first time. I have to tell you that the 100 is a really cool shade of gold, but thats for next year. Thanks from me and the wiki. <a href="/wiki/User:Victuallers" title="User:Victuallers">Victuallers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victuallers" title="User talk:Victuallers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="border: 2px solid #1564A7; padding: .25em; background-color: #EDF2F6; color:#1564A7"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Dyk50.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Dyk50.png/70px-Dyk50.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="139" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Dyk50.png/105px-Dyk50.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Dyk50.png/140px-Dyk50.png 2x" data-file-width="201" data-file-height="399"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The 50 <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">DYK</a> Medal </b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Well I've never given the 25 and the 50 medals at the same time, but there is always a first time. I have to tell you that the 100 is a really cool shade of gold, but thats for next year. Thanks from me and the wiki. <a href="/wiki/User:Victuallers" title="User:Victuallers">Victuallers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victuallers" title="User talk:Victuallers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victuallers-2008-12-27T21:22:00.000Z-Gonna_be_away_for_a_while-1"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_RFA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_RFA-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_RFA-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z"></span>Your RFA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_RFA-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tinucherian-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z-Your_RFA"></span>Best wishes for your RFA -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tinucherian" title="User:Tinucherian"><b><em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu</em></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tinucherian" title="User talk:Tinucherian"><b><em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian </em></b></a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Tinucherian-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z-Your_RFA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tinucherian-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z-Your_RFA"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tinucherian-2008-12-29T06:05:00.000Z-Your_RFA"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Archiving" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archiving-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Archiving-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z"></span>Archiving<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Archiving-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z-Archiving"></span>Just a note, you may want to set up automatic archiving of your talk page using Miszabot III. Instructions on how to configure your talk page to use it can be found <a href="/wiki/User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo" title="User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo">here</a>. Any questions, please let me know and I'll do my best to help. Many thanks, <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gazimoff" title="User:Gazimoff"><span style="color:green;">Gazi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gazimoff" title="User talk:Gazimoff"><span style="color:blue;">moff</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z-Archiving" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z-Archiving"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z-Archiving"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-29T15:33:00.000Z-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. It's getting long. I plan to archive it at the end of 2008. I'll look into Miszabot III. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-29T15:33:00.000Z-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-29T15:33:00.000Z-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-29T15:33:00.000Z-Gazimoff-2008-12-29T11:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z"></span>RFA question re <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKBEST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKBEST">Wikipedia:DYKBEST</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mattisse-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST"></span>I have asked you a question on your RFA regarding your involvement with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKBEST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKBEST">Wikipedia:DYKBEST</a>. Regards, —<a href="/wiki/User:Mattisse" title="User:Mattisse"><span style="color:navy;"><b>Mattisse</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mattisse" title="User talk:Mattisse">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mattisse-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mattisse-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mattisse-2008-12-29T23:03:00.000Z-RFA_question_re_Wikipedia:DYKBEST"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RfA_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfA_2-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RfA_2-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>RfA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RfA_2-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z-RfA_2"></span>Sorry to see you have withdrawn your request for adminship. I hope you decide run again sometime! I wish you all the best for the future, on and off Wikipedia :-) <b>John Sloan</b> (<a href="/wiki/User:John_Sloan" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Sloan">view</a> / <a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Sloan" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:John Sloan">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z-RfA_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z-RfA_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z-RfA_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-12-30T16:42:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>I am genuinely sorry, too. I will gladly support you if you decide to run again in 2009. <a href="/wiki/User:Ecoleetage" title="User:Ecoleetage">Ecoleetage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecoleetage" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ecoleetage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Ecoleetage-2008-12-30T16:42:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecoleetage-2008-12-30T16:42:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecoleetage-2008-12-30T16:42:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T16:57:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>I didn't even see the RfA - I'm sorry, I would have been a <b>Strong support</b>. --<font color="navy" size="2">David</font> <b><a href="/wiki/User:David_Shankbone" title="User:David Shankbone"><font color="navy" size="2" face="comic sans ms">Shankbone</font></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T16:57:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T16:57:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T16:57:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidwr-2008-12-30T17:12:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>For the reasons stated in the RFA, I cannot support you <i>at this time</i>, I hope that changes by mid-year. In the meantime, keep up the good editing work. <a href="/wiki/User:Davidwr" title="User:Davidwr">davidwr</a>/<small><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidwr" title="User talk:Davidwr">talk</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Davidwr" title="Special:Contributions/Davidwr">contribs</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/davidwr" title="Special:EmailUser/davidwr">e-mail</a>)</small></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidwr-2008-12-30T17:12:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidwr-2008-12-30T17:12:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidwr-2008-12-30T17:12:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>My sincerest regrets on the failure of your RfA. I found many of the opposes to be based on trivial and unjustifiable issues and this just turned into piling on. Your continued efforts doing what you're already doing will add to the experience that many opposes were looking for. You should have no regrets and should look at many of the comments offered as constructive suggestions for future improvement. I was proud to be one of the first supports and look forward to a second shot in the not-too-distant future. <a href="/wiki/User:Alansohn" title="User:Alansohn">Alansohn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alansohn" title="User talk:Alansohn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z"></span>Many opposes based on trivial and unjustifiable issues and with lots of piling on</i> - lol, isn't that the <a href="/wiki/Tagline" title="Tagline">tagline</a> of the RfA? --<font color="navy" size="2">David</font> <b><a href="/wiki/User:David_Shankbone" title="User:David Shankbone"><font color="navy" size="2" face="comic sans ms">Shankbone</font></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z-Alansohn-2008-12-30T18:13:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:57:00.000Z-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z"></span>I thought it was "None of us is as dumb as all of us". - Dan <a href="/wiki/User:Dank55" title="User:Dank55">Dank55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dank55" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dank55">send/receive</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:57:00.000Z-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:57:00.000Z-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:57:00.000Z-David_Shankbone-2008-12-30T19:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malcolmxl5-2008-12-30T19:04:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Commiserations. Please do carry on with the good work that you are doing. Kind regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Malcolmxl5" title="User:Malcolmxl5">Malcolmxl5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malcolmxl5" title="User talk:Malcolmxl5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Malcolmxl5-2008-12-30T19:04:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malcolmxl5-2008-12-30T19:04:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malcolmxl5-2008-12-30T19:04:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-30T19:14:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Congratulations on getting a lot of support for your RfA. Keep up the good work. <a href="/wiki/User:ChildofMidnight" title="User:ChildofMidnight">ChildofMidnight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChildofMidnight" title="User talk:ChildofMidnight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-30T19:14:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-30T19:14:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChildofMidnight-2008-12-30T19:14:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Dank55/Admins#Advice_after_close_but_failed_RFAs" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dank55/Admins"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Advice after close but failed RFAs</a>. - Dan <a href="/wiki/User:Dank55" title="User:Dank55">Dank55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dank55" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dank55">send/receive</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dank55-2008-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lazulilasher-2008-12-30T22:21:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Yes, best of luck to you. I did not cast an opinion during your RfA; but, I have noticed your work while wonking around the 'pedia. I think that you do a good job in your chosen areas, and I truly hope that this does not put a damper on your enthusiasm. When I find the "going tough" here, I try to recall that the only thing that matters is our work: not RfA, not FA, not DYK, not AIV, not any of that stuff. All that matters is the work we've done on the encyclopedia. The rest is just windowdressing. It doesn't matter that the article didn't make FA; it matters that the article was improved. It doesn't matter that the admin didn't pass RfA; it matters that the editor improved the encyclopedia. Do not let RfA get you down; I hope that you continue your work here on Wikipedia, because it is valuable. <a href="/wiki/User:Lazulilasher" title="User:Lazulilasher">Lazulilasher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lazulilasher" title="User talk:Lazulilasher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Lazulilasher-2008-12-30T22:21:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lazulilasher-2008-12-30T22:21:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lazulilasher-2008-12-30T22:21:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lar-2008-12-30T22:37:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>Best wishes. Dank55's advice is well spoken. ++<a href="/wiki/User:Lar" title="User:Lar">Lar</a>: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lar" title="User talk:Lar">t</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lar" title="Special:Contributions/Lar">c</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Lar-2008-12-30T22:37:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lar-2008-12-30T22:37:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lar-2008-12-30T22:37:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span>I do not see you as a "bad" editor; despite what may seem to be the case, I have a high opinion of you. My original vote was a hearty "Support" until I saw some worrisome problems due totally, I believe, to inexperience. (This place is way more complicated than it seems.) The next time around you will certainly pass, as I am confident you will benefit from going through all this turmoil. It may not seem like it, but being "roughed up" is actually good for an editor here. (Take this from one who knows from personal experience.) Regards, —<a href="/wiki/User:Mattisse" title="User:Mattisse"><span style="color:navy;"><b>Mattisse</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mattisse" title="User talk:Mattisse">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z-John_Sloan-2008-12-30T16:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidwr-2008-12-31T03:32:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z"></span>"This place is way more complicated than it seems" ← understatement of the year. I've been here two years and I think there's still more I don't know how to do well than I do know how to do well, and that's without the sysop bit. <a href="/wiki/User:Davidwr" title="User:Davidwr">davidwr</a>/<small><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidwr" title="User talk:Davidwr">talk</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Davidwr" title="Special:Contributions/Davidwr">contribs</a>)/(<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/davidwr" title="Special:EmailUser/davidwr">e-mail</a>)</small></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Davidwr-2008-12-31T03:32:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidwr-2008-12-31T03:32:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidwr-2008-12-31T03:32:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Mattisse, if my RFA would have went like this I never, EVER, would have allowed another. I don't see how being "roughed up" like this has any positivity to it. I wish I could have replied to your comment on the RFA - I would have said that I respected Suntag's DYK work on discussing things on the talk page and reviewing hooks. It had NOTHING to do with the number of DYK per month or day. You didn't read my intention in what I wrote. I wanted you to know this, Suntag. At least you know that there are some people like me that do respect your efforts. This RFA should be a textbook example of why there should be a limited number of questions asked in an RFA because this got completely out of hand. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Royalbroil" title="User:Royalbroil"><span style="color:#000000;">Royal</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royalbroil" title="User talk:Royalbroil"><span style="color:#FFCC00;">broil</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z-Mattisse-2008-12-31T00:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dank55-2008-12-31T14:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z"></span>In general, asking tough questions is fine if you need them to figure out how to vote; <a href="/wiki/Hazing" title="Hazing">hazing</a> is not fine (here or elsewhere), and opinions differ on when one shades into the other. - Dan <a href="/wiki/User:Dank55" title="User:Dank55">Dank55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dank55" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dank55">send/receive</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Dank55-2008-12-31T14:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dank55-2008-12-31T14:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dank55-2008-12-31T14:05:00.000Z-Royalbroil-2008-12-31T05:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suntag-2008-12-31T22:05:00.000Z-RfA_2"></span>Thank you all for your kind thoughts and words of encouragement. I'm sure we'll see each around the 'pedia in 2009. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Suntag" title="User:Suntag">Suntag</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suntag" title="User talk:Suntag"><b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Suntag-2008-12-31T22:05:00.000Z-RfA_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suntag-2008-12-31T22:05:00.000Z-RfA_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suntag-2008-12-31T22:05:00.000Z-RfA_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Matt_Lee_new_DRV" data-mw-thread-id="h-Matt_Lee_new_DRV-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Matt_Lee_new_DRV-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_December_31" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 December 31">Matt Lee new DRV</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Matt_Lee_new_DRV-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soundvisions1-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z-Matt_Lee_new_DRV"></span>This is a courtesy notice as you were involved in AFD, DRV or CSD's regarding various Matt Lee articles you may want to comment on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_December_31" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 December 31">new DRV</a>. Also, if you haven't already, you may also want to check out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Redirect_question" title="Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion">Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Redirect question</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Need_history_check_for_Matt_Lee" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">"Need history check for Matt Lee"</a> ANI thread. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Soundvisions1" title="User:Soundvisions1">Soundvisions1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soundvisions1" title="User talk:Soundvisions1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1#c-Soundvisions1-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z-Matt_Lee_new_DRV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soundvisions1-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z-Matt_Lee_new_DRV"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soundvisions1-2008-12-31T18:41:00.000Z-Matt_Lee_new_DRV"></span> </p> <table style="text-align:center;margin:0 auto 0.5em;max-width:10em;width:100%;width:-moz-available;width:-webkit-fill-available;width:stretch"><tbody><tr><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 1</a></span></td></tr></tbody></table>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1&oldid=1250688057">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Suntag/Archive_1&oldid=1250688057</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_missing_files" title="Category:Pages with missing files">Pages with missing files</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 11 October 2024, at 22:15<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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