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The result of <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1256404577#Requested_move_3_November_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1256404577">the discussion</a> was <b>not moved</b>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welsh_Oak" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welsh_Oak-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welsh_Oak-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z"></span>Welsh Oak<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welsh_Oak-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Quercus_petraea&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Welsh Oak"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Throquzum-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span>I've heard the Sessile oak also being called Welsh oak, possibly as a form of arboreal rivalry to the Pedunculate (or English) oak. I suppose this usage would be pretty restricted in its geographical range. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Throquzum&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Throquzum (page does not exist)">Throquzum</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-Throquzum-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Throquzum-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Throquzum-2007-04-21T12:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span>Apparently it's the national tree of wales. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/3920051.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/3920051.stm</a> Perhaps that should be mentioned on this article. </p> <dl><dd>The emphasis should be on sessile oak rather than Cornish oak as sessile is the common name used. This is the only article that I have come across using the name Cornish Oak. <a href="/wiki/User:Jowaninpensans" title="User:Jowaninpensans">Jowaninpensans</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jowaninpensans" title="User talk:Jowaninpensans">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-09-16T18:30:00.000Z-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Agreed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User:Gareth Griffith-Jones">Gareth Griffith-Jones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones">GG-J's Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-09-16T18:30:00.000Z-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-09-16T18:30:00.000Z-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-09-16T18:30:00.000Z-Jowaninpensans-2012-09-07T10:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span>I've also heard that the Sessile Oak is more common in Scotland, especially the West Highlands, than the Pedunculate Oak. Can anyone confirm this. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/78.148.33.92" title="Special:Contributions/78.148.33.92">78.148.33.92</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:78.148.33.92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:78.148.33.92 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andy_Dingley-2013-04-18T16:12:00.000Z-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z"></span>It's commonly called the "upland oak", throughout Britain (at least where there are any of them). It's widely distributed, rare in good conditions (those oaks will be <i>Q. robur</i>), but more common on poorer soils and upland areas. It's also thought of as smaller than robur, but although true as a general observation, that's more to do with habitat than species. <a href="/wiki/User:Andy_Dingley" title="User:Andy Dingley">Andy Dingley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andy_Dingley" title="User talk:Andy Dingley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-Andy_Dingley-2013-04-18T16:12:00.000Z-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andy_Dingley-2013-04-18T16:12:00.000Z-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andy_Dingley-2013-04-18T16:12:00.000Z-78.148.33.92-2013-04-16T21:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span>Since the above discussions, the term "Irish oak" has been added to the lead paragraphs and is now in the opening sentence. I couldn't find any evidence of this term. In particular, the cited Tree Council of Ireland don't really mention it except to say on one page that the traditional Irish oak is the sessile oak. So I don't think Irish Oak can be considered a common name. GRIN lists "sessile oak" and "durmast oak" as the only English language common names. My feeling is that the terms Irish, Welsh and Cornish oak should all be removed. Wondering what others think about this. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Declangi" title="User:Declangi">Declangi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Declangi" title="User talk:Declangi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z-Welsh_Oak"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Plantsurfer-2016-09-06T10:25:00.000Z-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z"></span>I agree. <i>Quercus petraea</i> is not peculiar to any of these regions. Sessile oak is the BSBI name. <a href="/wiki/User:Plantsurfer" title="User:Plantsurfer"><span style="background-color:green;color:cyan">Plant</span><span style="background-color:cyan;color:blue;">surfer</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quercus_petraea#c-Plantsurfer-2016-09-06T10:25:00.000Z-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 6 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Plantsurfer-2016-09-06T10:25:00.000Z-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Plantsurfer-2016-09-06T10:25:00.000Z-Declangi-2016-09-06T04:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Declangi-2016-09-14T09:14:00.000Z-Plantsurfer-2016-09-06T10:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Plantsurfer" title="User:Plantsurfer">Plantsurfer</a>:</span> thanks for responding. I went ahead and removed those terms Irish, Welsh and Cornish oak. Added BSBI as reference for sessile oak. Then GRIN for durmast oak. I retained some of the info about (unofficial) national symbols as the provided references do support this. 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