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On Sunday 16 April 2006 15:40, Steven Rostedt wrote:<br />&gt; &gt; I'll think more about this, but maybe someone else has some crazy ideas<br />&gt; &gt; that can find a solution to this that is both fast and robust.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Ok, you asked for a crazy idea, you're going to get it ;-)<br />&gt; <br />&gt; You could take a fixed range from the vmalloc area (e.g. 1MB per cpu)<br />&gt; and use that to remap pages on demand when you need per cpu data.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; #define PER_CPU_BASE 0xe000000000000000UL /* arch dependant */<br />&gt; #define PER_CPU_SHIFT 0x100000UL<br />&gt; #define __per_cpu_offset(__cpu) (PER_CPU_BASE + PER_CPU_STRIDE * (__cpu))<br />&gt; #define per_cpu(var, cpu) (*RELOC_HIDE(&amp;per_cpu__##var, __per_cpu_offset(cpu)))<br />&gt; #define __get_cpu_var(var) per_cpu(var, smp_processor_id())<br />&gt; <br />&gt; This is a lot like the current sparc64 implementation already is.<br />&gt; <br /><br />Hmm, interesting idea.<br /><br />&gt; The tricky part here is the remapping of pages. You'd need to <br />&gt; alloc_pages_node() new pages whenever the already reserved space is<br />&gt; not enough for the module you want to load and then map_vm_area()<br />&gt; them into the space reserved for them.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Advantages of this solution are:<br />&gt; - no dependant load access for per_cpu()<br />&gt; - might be flexible enough to implement a faster per_cpu_ptr()<br />&gt; - can be combined with ia64-style per-cpu remapping<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Disadvantages are:<br />&gt; - you can't use huge tlbs for mapping per cpu data like the<br />&gt; regular linear mapping -&gt; may be slower on some archs<br /><br />&gt; - does not work in real mode, so percpu data can't be used<br />&gt; inside exception handlers on some architectures.<br /><br />This is probably a big issue. I believe interrupt context in hrtimers<br />uses per_cpu variables.<br /><br />&gt; - memory consumption is rather high when PAGE_SIZE is large<br /><br />That's also something that I'm trying to solve. To use the least amount<br />of memory and still have the performance.<br /><br />Now, I've also thought about allocating per_cpu and when a module is<br />loaded, reallocate more memory and copy it again. Use something like<br />the kstopmachine to sync the system so that the CPUS don't update any<br />per_cpu variables while this is happening, so that things can't get out<br />of sync.<br /><br />This shouldn't be too much of an issue, since this would only be done<br />when a module is being loaded, and that is a user event that doesn't<br />happen often.<br /><br />We would still need to use the method of keeping track of what is<br />allocated and freed, so that when a module is unloaded, we can still<br />free the area in the per_cpu data. 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