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To ensure you received the relevant TV and Radio stations for your area, click on the location name at the top of the page, next to the clock, select your postcode or town name, and then click 'Confirm'.</p> <p>I'm pleased to tell you that my team have also fixed a number of bugs and made further improvements to the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/accessibility/">accessibility</a> of the page which will make it easier to read if you are accessing via a screenreader.</p> <p>We still have plenty of new features to add and improvements to make and we hope to continue releasing new updates every few weeks. </p> <p>Work is also underway on a new mobile site so there will be more information on that soon.</p> <p><em>James Thornett is the Head of Homepage Product, BBC Future Media</em></p> <div class="bbc-st bbc-st-slim bbc-st-colour bbc-st-light"> <a 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111525982">11:20</a> 25th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=3294715" class="comment_username_1084167">JoeAD</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>"Work is also underway on a new mobile site so there will be more information on that soon"<br><br>That's the worst news I've heard in ages. <br><br>As far as I'm concerned your team was responsible for ruining the desktop homepage experience for me and many others, so I don't hold any hope of the mobile site going in a different direction.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1084167"><a 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comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml" target="_blank">Explain</a>. </p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_193426949269225473"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111526933&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 2)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111527338"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>3.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment3" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111527338">12:59</a> 25th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=11650016" class="comment_username_6013">Keith</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Any chance of making the carousel move using the keyboard arrow keys as the new 2012 site does? This would presumably help improve the accessibility further.<br><br>Also slightly off-topic is there any chance of getting the my news &amp; weather location panel on the BBC News site updated. It would be nice if it could retrieves the location set on the BBC home page, as well as pointing to the new weather site.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_6013"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111527338&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 3)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111527495"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>4.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment4" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111527495">13:11</a> 25th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=11650016" class="comment_username_6013">Keith</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>The TV panel despite displaying 'BBC One (Cambridgeshire)' appears to still insist on loading the London content by default. When the channel is selected from the menu or set in location it does initially display the correct content, however reloading the page reverts it to the London content. I've tried clearing my cookies and so far it's still occurring (Firefox 9, Win 7).</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_6013"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111527495&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 4)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111529029"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>5.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment5" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111529029">15:16</a> 25th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=899978" class="comment_username_220443">Green Soap</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>No, I've not noticed. I don't use your Homepage since it was vandalised.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_220443"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111529029&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 5)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111530933"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>6.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment6" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111530933">18:04</a> 25th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14259215" class="comment_username_932373">2LO</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Well James, I've just had a look at the new improvements, having not used my old Homepage for nearly two months. It still doesn't work on Firefox (copy is cut off), it's still not customizable as was the old one and it still offers little more than essentially meaningless pictures that jerk to the left or right a bit if I care to make them do so. So it's a no-go area for me, I fear. The best improvement, speaking personally, would be a return to the old BBC Homepage which greeted me, daily, for many years. I know this message will be ignored and dismissed immediately.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_932373"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111530933&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 6)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111533705"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>7.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment7" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111533705">00:30</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15115718" class="comment_username_192340291837125380">YOUNG-FREE</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p class="comment-text-moderation"> <span class="comment_moderated_username_192340291837125380">This</span> comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml" target="_blank">Explain</a>. </p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_192340291837125380"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111533705&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 7)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111534825"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>8.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment8" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111534825">10:32</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15048414" class="comment_username_124610393583147277">Cramps</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I see no improvements the new home page is still awful</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_124610393583147277"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111534825&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 8)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111535390"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>9.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment9" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111535390">11:26</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=4768882" class="comment_username_1122651">Radioactiveoldduffer</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>An improvement is when you satisfy your current viewers and attract new ones - in this you have failed. If you had listened to the feedback to the Beta version then you would not be in this mess. Reading your personal blog I can see why you're not connecting with the older viewer.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1122651"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111535390&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 9)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111535993"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>10.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment10" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111535993">12:16</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15115920" class="comment_username_140164320787653377">pj</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I agree with the majority view, the new page is not as good as the old one, after months trying to get used to the changes I now simply do not use it anymore.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_140164320787653377"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111535993&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 10)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111536249"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>11.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment11" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111536249">12:38</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=11650016" class="comment_username_6013">Keith</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>@4: Looks like the problem has been (silently) fixed.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_6013"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111536249&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 11)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111536702"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>12.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment12" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111536702">13:10</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15054110" class="comment_username_184247798837283843">Matt_abc</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Still looks awful and unusable to me</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_184247798837283843"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111536702&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 12)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111541571"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>13.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment13" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111541571">19:31</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14670416" class="comment_username_5655097">Hadden Uff</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>The location still keeps saying London for me...<br>I don't think they'll change it back sadly.<br><br>I use Google News instead as my main news page. It presents a variety of perspectives on the news, and it is fully localised, with entire sections devoted to my home town, county, or anything you want.<br><br>The flip side is the lack of navigation once you leave the front page. But still better than the new BBC overall.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_5655097"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111541571&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 13)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111544109"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>14.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment14" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111544109">23:26</a> 26th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=7558846" class="comment_username_13937">Sam</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>After the release I moved to the news site, so I haven't noticed any improvements. However I've been to look and the new homepage is worse than I remembered. No amount of tinkering will make a blind bit of difference until we can opt out of the tragic roundabout and we get a bit of colour - even a shade of grey will do!</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_13937"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111544109&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 14)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" notables " id="comment_111546631"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>15.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment15" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111546631">10:23</a> 27th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=8509436" class="comment_username_26351">James Thornett</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Thank you for the comments.<br><br>In response to a number of questions that have been asked.<br><br>@Keith (#3 and #4) <br>Yes, we are working on keyboard shortcuts for the carousel at the moment so this will be added soon. Thank you for spotting the error with the TV region. It is really helpful when users let us know about issues such as this and our team continually work on fixes to try and keep the page error-free.<br><br>We will be talking to our colleagues in News to join up your location setting so that your preference will remain when you move from the Homepage to News or Weather.<br><br>@Hadden Uff (#13)<br>Have you tried to change the location by clicking on 'London' at the top, next to the clock, and selecting your preferred town, city or postcode?<br><br>This does rely on cookies to store your location preference so make sure you are using a computer with cookies enabled so that your preferred location will appear when you return to the page at a later date.<br><br>thanks,<br>James</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_26351"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111546631&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 15)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111549896"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>16.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment16" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111549896">14:13</a> 27th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=3895241" class="comment_username_224707">GaryB007</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>It's a real shame you haven't seen fit to listen to those who pay your substantial salary and do something about the disastrous redesign. A case study of how NOT to do it!</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_224707"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111549896&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 16)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111552884"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>17.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment17" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111552884">19:09</a> 27th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14259215" class="comment_username_932373">2LO</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>"In response to a number of questions that have been asked"<br><br>James, you have written in response to just two writers and have, predictably, ignored the most basic concerns voiced by rather more others. If the complaints of all those who wrote the last time the dreadful new Homepage was 'blogged' were addressed, we might feel less antagonistic towards you and your department.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_932373"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111552884&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 17)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111553462"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>18.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment18" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111553462">20:00</a> 27th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14675655" class="comment_username_2940511">JB125</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>BBC London is still the default local news though, showing once again the BBC London bias. If no default has been selected you should randomly pick a region for each page display.<br>You should also employ someone who knows about ergonomics rather than what is the latest design craze amongst graphics designers so the site is more usable.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_2940511"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111553462&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 18)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111556807"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>19.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment19" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111556807">12:05</a> 28th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14999379" class="comment_username_1000951">Ross</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Welcome back James. My homepage is now your blogs waiting to see if anything will change on the homepage. Regrettably not. You still have not answered any of the salient points from the last 4 blogs. You clearly launched the site before it was ready, shown by the fact that you have released 2 updates within a month, and are still fixing things which were mentioned before release, and were even dismissed (such as the accessibility issues). When are we going to get some real answers on this waste of Licence Payer's money. When will we see the statistics? Has it achieved what you wanted (which was clearly not what your users wanted).<br><br>Can we have MyBBC PLEASE???</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1000951"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111556807&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 19)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111560519"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>20.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment20" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111560519">18:46</a> 28th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15098601" class="comment_username_191508548584702211">Dave F</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I have been following these blogs for some time now as agree with the majority of the comments, in that I hate the new homepage and this has made me reluctant to use it, after it being my first port of entry for probably about 10 years.<br><br>My main issue is that there is no feedback from the BBC in response or acnowlegement to the almost universal areas of the complaints raised. <br><br>Are you going do anything or not?<br><br>If not I am sure you will loose a vast percentage of your audience if you havn't alteady.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_191508548584702211"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111560519&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 20)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111561285"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>21.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment21" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111561285">20:16</a> 28th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=11650016" class="comment_username_6013">Keith</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>@18: The reason it's the default location could just be because London is the capital city of the United Kingdom, as opposed it being because of "the BBC London bias".</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_6013"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111561285&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 21)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111563533"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>22.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment22" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111563533">10:18</a> 29th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15120245" class="comment_username_194135871036913409">Rugbytaff69</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>If you ask the millions of people who dont live in England 'what is your capital?' they will NOT say London. Capital of UK may be factually correct but it is England-centric bias like BBC. This is bad design. My phone and google haven't assumed I lived in London for a long time and know where I am. BBC, with £100 million to spend on a website must do better. BRING BACK THE OLD SITE.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_194135871036913409"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111563533&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 22)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111563707"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>23.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment23" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111563707">10:33</a> 29th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15051090" class="comment_username_5616171">lettice</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Just saw this renewed blog, so thought Id have a look, but I have not noticed any changes since the launch on my firefox/chrome browser. I see the change the location (which I thought was there from day one) but I cant see the link to change the tv region, but saying that my tv region seems to be right below.<br>It still has the Carosel, which is what I do not like at all, it just does not work for me.<br>I just find the front page a jumbled mess and not easy to navigate or see content quickly. Its all about design and not usability for me.<br>I do not really use the TV bits below, as I use iplayer and other sites and apps for any TV content, but I understand why its there.<br>Every day I come to this site, as the BBC news and sports content is always what I want and up to date, but its just a wrong step for me to view and take in now than the previous page.<br>Had a look as someone told me the 2012 BBC site has changed and yuk, another carosel and it looks very very jumbled. Not really into the olympics, so ill thankfully pass on the one. <br>See BBC sports is changing in Feb, hope it does not end up with a carosel too.<br><br>It would be good to have the localised function transfrerred to News and Sport. <br><br>I have an ipad and it only shows the top half of the page, and right and left navigation on there is a pain, it needs a few touches to do it. ipad swipe, that is how it works! Hint!</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_5616171"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111563707&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 23)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111566926"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>24.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment24" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111566926">15:30</a> 29th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14675655" class="comment_username_2940511">JB125</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>@keith Being the capital doesn't confer any rights as far as being the default anywhere.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_2940511"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111566926&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 24)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111570062"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>25.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment25" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111570062">20:59</a> 29th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=3379389" class="comment_username_239969">tinman</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I haven't noticed any 'updates' to the redesigned BBC homepage, weather page or radio/programme pages as I no longer use them (I get the Scottish video weather forecast from the Tayside and Central news page now, negating the need to go anywhere near the new and 'unimproved' weather page or homepage) due to the poor design. However, I do check in to this blog now and again to see if there are any updates as to wheter the pages have been improved from their chaotic, messy design. I may go and check the pages now though...</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_239969"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111570062&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 25)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111570107"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>26.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment26" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111570107">21:06</a> 29th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=3379389" class="comment_username_239969">tinman</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Just checked the homepage and weather page but seems to be no change. I shall check again the next time this blog has an update.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_239969"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111570107&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 26)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111572232"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>27.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment27" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111572232">08:48</a> 30th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15120245" class="comment_username_194135871036913409">Rugbytaff69</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>thankgod that the bbc wales site is still there, otherwise its just gonna be BBC london's England rugby news for the 6 natinos...</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_194135871036913409"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111572232&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 27)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" notables " id="comment_111573117"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>28.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment28" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111573117">10:27</a> 30th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=11648404" class="comment_username_9863">Nick Reynolds</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Dave F - comment #20:<br><br>"My main issue is that there is no feedback from the BBC in response or acnowlegement to the almost universal areas of the complaints raised."<br><br>if you read James' <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/12/bbc_homepage_your_feedback_2.html">post from December of last year</a> he does give feedback on points raised by commenters in particular on the design and customisation. <br><br>Thanks</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_9863"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111573117&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 28)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111580896"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>29.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment29" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111580896">21:13</a> 30th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14999379" class="comment_username_1000951">Ross</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Nick, it is exactly this sort of answer which has caused all the problems. James has never answered any complaints, except the few which give specific problems with technical issues about the new site (as in his post above, where he only answered a couple of the comments). He has never addressed the fundamental issues of WHY the page was changed in the first place, when the majority of posters agree that there was nothing wrong with the page in the first place. We have never seen the results of the on-line questionnaire, and no data has ever been published about the comments on the Beta phase. If the blog is any guide, they would have been overwhelmingly negative, and yet the launch went ahead anyway.<br><br>Just to say it was changed because it was going to be changed is not sufficient.<br><br>Even now, we still see no statistics on whether the avowed target for change has been achieved.<br><br>I know NO-ONE who likes the new home page. Not one. Most people I know who used to use it now use something else or nothing at all. Personally I have James' latest blog as my homepage so I can see if anyone is ever going to respond to the specific issues, or whether anyone will admit they were wrong with this new page and revert to the previous version, which was universally agreed to be the best website homepage available.<br><br>I believe your market research which prompted the change was flawed. No-one ever asked my opinion even though I used the homepage several times a day, so where did you get the information that people found it boring? Did you do any research on how many regular users used the customisation, which you claim was not used? I suspect not.<br><br>In the end, the old page was useful, interesting, informative, entertaining and easy to use. The new page is none of these things. In fact, it is useless &amp; soulless.<br><br>Please re-read those blog posts, from the beginning, then tell us honestly that anyone has acknowledged the issues raised. If you can do that, then I'm afraid there is really no hope and I will go somewhere else for my homepage, but with sadness at the loss of integrity at my beloved BBC.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1000951"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111580896&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 29)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111581720"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>30.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment30" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111581720">22:50</a> 30th Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15122824" class="comment_username_194411571850681347">iamdave</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I've been following these blog posts with a lot of interest, and the comments with some level of despair, over the past few months. The new homepage is lovely! It's much brighter than the old one and more inviting - and showcases much more stuff in a much friendlier fashion. I now love being able to drop by and get a quick glance of some interesting new stuff that I might not have found otherwise. It (now) makes sensible use of my location, too - local weather at the top, local news in the carousel, local TV listings underneath.<br><br>The old page was a real clutter and the "customisation" features just made it clunkier and far more complicated than it needed to be. This does exactly what a home page should - points me to interesting stuff. I think it's great.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_194411571850681347"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111581720&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 30)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111582329"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>31.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment31" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111582329">00:40</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14999379" class="comment_username_1000951">Ross</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Oh alright then, one person :)</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1000951"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111582329&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 31)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111584169"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>32.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment32" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111584169">10:41</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=3294715" class="comment_username_1084167">JoeAD</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>@iamdave - May I ask why you registered only yesterday and have posted on the bbc blogs just once?<br><br>If as you say you've been following the debate for a number of months this strikes me as a little odd.<br><br>Surely you would've felt the need to voice your support for the new Homepage amongst such a title wave of negative feedback prior to yesterday?</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1084167"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111584169&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 32)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111584565"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>33.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment33" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111584565">11:20</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14389107" class="comment_username_1705010">DBOne</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I too have expressed a number of times that I like the new homepage in the old blogs - so there is at least two of us. I'm also looking forward to future enhancements. Why is there always disbelief from some bloggers that anyone actually likes the new page? I would suggest, that in generalm, people don't add comments to the blog saying they like the new page because they see no need to. I originally registered and added comments because I was fed up reading negative postings that I felt were not true - I had been following the blogs a long time before my first post. Perhaps, JoeAD, iamdave did the same? He doesn't need to justify or validate his post any more than your negative ones....</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1705010"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111584565&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 33)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" notables " id="comment_111585025"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>34.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment34" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111585025">12:07</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14904748" class="comment_username_152462444147073284">Ian McDonald</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>@JoeAD<br><br>Your question is a mean-spirted attack on another commenter, against house rules, and off-topic. I would usually remove it, but someone responded. <br><br>Let's keep this friendly and on-topic. About the home page, not about each other.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_152462444147073284"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111585025&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 34)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111587405"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>35.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment35" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111587405">15:58</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15122824" class="comment_username_194411571850681347">iamdave</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>@JoeAD (32): Of course you may! I've been following the debate and getting more and more depressed by the responses that have been posted time and again. I was spurred into action yesterday by the comment further up the page that "I know NO-ONE who likes the new home page. Not one". Given that, from reading the comments on this post, it came across that this was the view of the entire population, I felt it important to try to provide some (limited) balance. In other words, DBOne (33) is spot on: I followed precisely the same logic as him!<br><br>Anyway, on topic: I am glad to note that the constructive side of feedback - improving localisation, adding keyboard shortcuts etc - are being taken on board. It's great to see that the team are willing to work to further improve what's already, in my view, a big step forward from what was there before. Slight shame that a couple more of the niggles (particularly with local TV listings - I'm in Scotland and was getting driven batty by the insistence that I watch BBC London!) weren't dealt with pre-launch - but hey, we're there now!</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_194411571850681347"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111587405&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 35)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111588354"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>36.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment36" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111588354">17:10</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15049109" class="comment_username_183317486252063492">marcus1972</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Hi James,<br><br>Welcome back and I hope you had a nice break over the holidays?<br><br>I have not visited the homepage for several weeks mainly because the new design was so disappointing and left me feeling unloved by the Beeb. But, as you have mentioned "improvements" I jumped straight back online to take a look.<br><br>You are such a tease James! All that promise and nothing......still, at least I haven't had to waste any time resetting my homepage - keeping at yahoo.<br><br>I will keep popping back hoping for improvements that deliver something to the user and not to your CV.<br><br>Until then I leave you as a spurned lover would - hurt and only wishing you could listen.<br><br>MMouse</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183317486252063492"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111588354&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 36)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111588559"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>37.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment37" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111588559">17:24</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15049109" class="comment_username_183317486252063492">marcus1972</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Why people liked the old website;<br><br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1axEv7GEUUI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1axEv7GEUUI</a><br><br>One of the many reasons why people don't like the new website;<br><br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFgFo13aJM4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFgFo13aJM4</a><br><br>It is very annoying when things just 'pop-up' at you! and then disappear if you dare move your mouse.<br><br>I have also translated my complaint into 'txt' talk, as James is so down with the younger generation, it might help me get my ciews across to him.<br><br>"Hi James, I dnt lk d nu homepage n plz cn u chng it 2 d old 1. Ive typD dis n txt tlk as dat sEmz 2B d 1ly lingo ur wilN 2 lisN 2. tnx MMouse"</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183317486252063492"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111588559&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 37)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111589394"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>38.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment38" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111589394">18:38</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14389107" class="comment_username_1705010">DBOne</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>#37 @marcus1972 - your video highlights a design decision - one that I like. <br><br>If you want to just click the 'headline' link then you can click on the associated photo - it takes you to the same place. The popup highlights additional information - like the 'More Info' type buttons present on so many websites but unlike them it doesn't need an additional mouse click to open it.<br><br>By the way, the title of James' post tells you pretty much what has changed - not much of a tease really...</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1705010"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111589394&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 38)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111590110"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>39.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment39" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111590110">19:32</a> 31st Jan 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14259215" class="comment_username_932373">2LO</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Thanks to marcus1972 for the YouTube links. <br><br>For years the "boring" old BBC Homepage could be edited down to the few dull items I wanted to see at a glance when going online - boring news, local and otherwise, the dreary weather and uninspiringly easy links to what predictable programmes were on Radio and TV, most of this consumed in a few tedious moments by reading a few yawn-inducing sentences before going on to other things.<br><br>Like the two other posters here, I can now say I LOVE the new all-singing, all-dancing carousels of pictures and things popping up all over the place, as I don't look at the thing anymore and no longer feel the need to suffer those moments of boredom with the BBC's website.<br><br>Life is plagued with enough distractions as it is.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_932373"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111590110&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 39)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111596563"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>40.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment40" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111596563">12:32</a> 1st Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15125125" class="comment_username_194695641156121600">iand10</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Not sure if anyone has pointed this out before, but using Safari on a Mac to view the new BBC Homepage, the bottom inch or so of the top section gets cut off.<br><br>This means it is not possible to see the last two lines of text in the two columns of news headlines on the right of the page. Also the captions under all the lower images in the top section of the page disappear beneath the blue line above "BBC online today". Similarly, the captions for the four pictures under "What's On TV and Radio" also disappear.<br><br>There seems to be no way of scrolling these sections.<br><br>This makes the BBC homepage pretty useless when viewed in Safari, Mac's preferred browser, so you must be losing a lot of regular users.<br><br>I would be interested to know if you are aware of this problem and what is being done to fix it. I've emailed Homepage Beta Feedback twice about this, but just get a standard automated reply.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_194695641156121600"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111596563&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 40)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111597508"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>41.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment41" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111597508">13:28</a> 1st Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=7558846" class="comment_username_13937">Sam</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Please can you update the masthead to make it Black like the BBC sport page, however please refrain from replicating the white hover over effect.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_13937"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111597508&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 41)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111602547"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>42.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment42" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111602547">18:33</a> 1st Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14259215" class="comment_username_932373">2LO</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>iand10, The same happens with my (up-to-date) Firefox browser - another reason why I don't bother with the site anymore. "They" have never responded to queries about it, other than the usual robotic rubbish.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_932373"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111602547&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 42)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111630721"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>43.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment43" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111630721">09:49</a> 5th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15130997" class="comment_username_195399762254802951">snowlynx</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I don't use the BBC as homepage now as it doesn't seem to have the same customisation facility. Will this improve? There is a lot of stuff on the new page that I really don't want to see ... :o(</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_195399762254802951"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111630721&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 43)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111633767"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>44.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment44" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111633767">15:28</a> 5th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14389107" class="comment_username_1705010">DBOne</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>#40,#42 it may be that your browser font settings are set to large - the homepage doesnt seem to like very large font sizes - guess the designers use some absolute sizings....</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1705010"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111633767&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 44)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111634670"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>45.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment45" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111634670">17:10</a> 5th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14761038" class="comment_username_126752206515437708">DACAtHome</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I have returned to have a look for the first time since the disastrous change and find that it is still awful. I thought this may be me (and the several thousand who complained and were ignored previously), but I see that others are now joining the fray.<br><br>Can we go back to a single, customisable page that enables us to make use of the facilities of BBC online, without the need for scrolling horizontally and being overwhelmed by useless information about which I have no interest?<br><br>Thank you Marcus at 37 for the youtube links. I just wish the people who control the BBC website would remember this.<br><br>As we were completely ignored last time, will you be taking notice of what we say this time?</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_126752206515437708"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111634670&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 45)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111641791"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>46.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment46" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111641791">14:32</a> 6th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14928033" class="comment_username_157051351312368640">Four_Winds</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p class="comment-text-moderation"> <span class="comment_moderated_username_157051351312368640">This</span> comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml" target="_blank">Explain</a>. </p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_157051351312368640"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111641791&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 46)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111643383"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>47.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment47" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111643383">17:10</a> 6th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15125125" class="comment_username_194695641156121600">iand10</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>DBOne - thanks for your suggestion. Yes, if I reduce the font size, I can see the whole page, but the type size is now very small - much smaller than on comparable websites. These also don't cut off parts of the screen if you reduce or enlarge the font size. This doesn't say much for the BBC's commitment to accessibility. Also, if the answer to my query is that simple, why couldn't the BBC tell me?</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_194695641156121600"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111643383&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 47)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111652748"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>48.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment48" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111652748">17:11</a> 7th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15052470" class="comment_username_183864149271976193">HughL60</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Just did a search to see if there had been any further developments. Clearly the new BBC Homepage is here to stay. <br><br>I joined the discussion here last year for a bit and then came to the conclusion that the BBC Homepage was no longer suitable for being my browser homepage. That remains the case. I am disappointed because it had been my home page since the early days of the Internet.<br><br>This may sound defeatist, but I genuinely don't think that continuing to complain about it will make the slightest bit of difference, because the BBC has invested in it and has made it clear that they are not interested in the negative feedback (other than minor suggestions for change about the NEW design). So, I am not going to restate my own disappointment about it all, but continue to use BBC News as my homepage. I also think that it it almost certain that the new redesign will be rolled out to the News page too and, at that point, I will move again.<br><br>Having said all that, I would love to know what the usage stats are for the new homepage versus the old one (both overall number of visits and whether the number of accesses to other page from homepage have increased). Can someone show these?<br><br>The only answer for those of us who do not like the new BBC site is to walk away, just as we would if it was a 'product' from a commercial company.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183864149271976193"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111652748&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 48)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111676197"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>49.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment49" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111676197">22:27</a> 9th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14999379" class="comment_username_1000951">Ross</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>HughL60, I suspect you are right. It is such a shame though. I am not against change, but it has to be positive and I still feel this change is a retrograde step. The links from marcus1972 just about say it all. The old site was used as a demonstration on how good design should be. I don't see that ever happening with the new version.<br><br>I too would love to see those statistics. I would also like to have heard the debate being mentioned elsewhere on the BBC. It was considered news by the print media, but as far as I am aware was never mentioned on the BBC news at all, or if it was I missed it on the TV or Radio 4. Let us hope that those responsible for the change are being made to prove that what they have done has achieved the aims, and that they can convince their bosses that it was worth losing so many dedicated and loyal supporters.<br><br>The BBC cannot advertise, so their best bet is publicity by word of mouth. I'm afraid my conversations with people nowadays is to recommend anything rather than the BBC home page. A case perhaps where "any publicity is good publicity" fails.<br><br>I can only repeat the request to bring back the functionality we had before, to be able to filter out the bits in which we are not interested, and to reinstate those which were so entertaining and informative (QI, Science, etc) which appear to have disappeared forever. The idea of MyBBC has been mooted for some time, and seemed to gain some credence with James at one point, but now seems to have disappeared again.<br><br>This will be my last post, as I am finally giving up the fight and going elsewhere. I may pop back from time to time to see if anything has changed, but I am not hopeful.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1000951"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111676197&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 49)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111693915"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>50.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment50" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111693915">20:30</a> 11th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15049109" class="comment_username_183317486252063492">marcus1972</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>What needs to be said....the new homepage is not liked and after 2 weeks you only have 50 comments about the new features with most of them being negative.<br><br>Goodbye.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183317486252063492"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111693915&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 50)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111703172"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>51.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment51" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111703172">18:52</a> 12th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=8596556" class="comment_username_179261">brian192</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I also had not noticed any updates to the homepage mainly because this is no longer my point of entry. Like many others I now seek my news, weather and sports news elsewhere since all these web pages have been ruined by needless revamps. James has a long way to go before he satisfies most of the thousands of licence fee payers who complained officially or commented through these blogs. My main concern is the total silence from the BBC Senior Management who should at the very least take some notice of those who contribute to their salaries and expenses.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_179261"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111703172&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 51)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111704073"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>52.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment52" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111704073">20:31</a> 12th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15142518" class="comment_username_196748264029005063">Subtok</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p class="comment-text-moderation"> <span class="comment_moderated_username_196748264029005063">This</span> comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml" target="_blank">Explain</a>. </p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_196748264029005063"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111704073&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 52)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111707541"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>53.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment53" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111707541">11:23</a> 13th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15052705" class="comment_username_183933365908019971">Matt</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Waste of time and money, the only BBC pages I look at now are these blogs in the hope that you lot will take your heads out the sand! <br><br>Utter rubbish, if this was a commercial site you would all have been fired by now!</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183933365908019971"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111707541&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 53)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111733725"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>54.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment54" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111733725">16:50</a> 15th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15052470" class="comment_username_183864149271976193">HughL60</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Looks like the new BBC Home Page has been nominated for a Design Award. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.designsoftheyear.com/category/genre/digital/digital-2012/">https://www.designsoftheyear.com/category/genre/digital/digital-2012/</a><br><br>The world has gone mad.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183864149271976193"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111733725&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 54)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111736950"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>55.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment55" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111736950">21:46</a> 15th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14341361" class="comment_username_1307539">spanfree</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Hi James<br>I just googled 'BBC homepage' to see if there are any updates/improvements and found your latest blog.<br>I used the BBC as my home page for years but have stopped since November 2011 and have created my own in google which is adequate but not as good as the BBC used to be. Most of the people I talk to and most on this blog seem to have changed their home page away from the BBC.<br>Could you tell me if you are getting more or fewer hits to your home page since it was updated last year?<br>I am just interested to know if I am in the minority?</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1307539"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111736950&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 55)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111744789"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>56.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment56" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111744789">17:37</a> 16th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14259215" class="comment_username_932373">2LO</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Presumably it has been nominated as a classic example of how NOT to design a website; as an educative tool for web designers perhaps.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_932373"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111744789&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 56)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111747316"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>57.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment57" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111747316">22:50</a> 16th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14555234" class="comment_username_3693385">KenK234</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>"I'm pleased to tell you that my team have also fixed a number of bugs and made further improvements to the accessibility of the page which will make it easier to read if you are accessing via a screenreader."<br>James, would you care to have a word about this with your colleagues on the BBC Sports site? I think you have a lot you can teach them. Take your sunglasses.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_3693385"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111747316&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 57)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111762546"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>58.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment58" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111762546">16:50</a> 18th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14858699" class="comment_username_145007579869124611">Nimrod</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>A few years ago "Nouvelle cuisine" was all the rage. You may remember that it involved a shortage of food, arranged, oh so artistically on a huge gleaming white plate. I mention this because when I first saw the BBC online homepage beta it instantly put me in mind of a white platefull of nothing. Recent updates and improvements have done nothing to make it any more palatable. The site still lacks relevant content, still force feeds unwanted content, and the plate still slides sideways if I am not careful. It also appears that the trend is spreading, much as novel cuisine did for a while.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_145007579869124611"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111762546&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 58)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111768047"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>59.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment59" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111768047">12:46</a> 19th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15064603" class="comment_username_186355574887882497">anianat</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>In general, I agree with the negative comments regarding lack of customisation. Bring this feature back as soon as possible as you must admit it appears to have been a huge mistake to remove it in the first place. I like the sound of a fully customisable carousel (as long as it is fully customisable and I don't have to have a minimum proportion of video links or other stuff that I don't want).<br><br>Now to a more immediate and solvable issue. When the page was launched in beta, and even after its main launch, the "filter" settings were remembered from one browsing session to the next. This now seems to have been broken and although I want to open up the page on "news &amp; sport" until you bring back some proper customisation, the page is defaulting to "BBC Online Today". This makes the already frustrating page even more so. Please can you look into this and fix.<br><br>Thanks,<br>I</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_186355574887882497"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111768047&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 59)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111821652"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>60.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment60" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111821652">11:38</a> 25th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15053751" class="comment_username_184196454549638660">Webbswonder</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>James, any update about when the carousel will be fixed? It jumps left and right constantly. Along with the constant flashes of white this makes for a puke-inducing experience. That and the complete lack of content has made me no longer use the site. In the pile of comments to other posts you did not respond to people's questions about the constant twitch of the homepage. Will this ever be fixed? It must be a bug in the home page because the carousels on the other BBC sites do not twitch, e.g. sport and TV. So why does the Homepage twitch? I prefer the smaller carousels of the other sites which are usable.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_184196454549638660"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111821652&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 60)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111822345"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>61.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment61" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111822345">12:44</a> 25th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14310348" class="comment_username_1449755">Paul</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Can some one tell me where I click to get to this blog, and others from the homepage, for me that sums up all what is wrong with the new hompage, seems to be less information on it, and is very confusing to find the info you actuallly want. (I googled bbc Hompage complaints to get here in the end, was curious to see if where still being listened too). There seems a lot less comments this time around, wonder if that is because every one is happy now?</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1449755"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111822345&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 61)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111849019"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>62.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment62" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111849019">16:13</a> 28th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15166688" class="comment_username_199616300791175682">Neil M</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I have just discovered these blogs and agree with the majority of the comments, in that I hate the new homepage and this has made me reluctant to use it, after it being my first port of entry each morning when i get to work.<br><br>My main issue is that there is no feedback from the BBC in response or acnowlegement to the almost universal areas of the complaints raised. <br><br>Are you going do anything or not?<br><br>I have read your comments in december with regard to the new web site and the reason you do not wish to change the web site back but i fail to see that a web site that was working very well should of been changed ??? <br>You say that most users were only looking at news &amp; sport and not other parts of the web site, well did you stop and consider that is what most users want to actually look at !!!! <br>Why why why why have you not addressed the many thousand of complaints you have had and put the web site back to how it was ! a enjoy experanice were as now it is very painful to use. <br><br>I have seen the new web site on an Iphone and have to admite it works well on there but the varst majortiy of us look at the web site from a laptop or desktop and i have to tell you it is now not a site i enjoy using at all !<br>Please could you respond to your customer complaints <br><br>Kind rergards,</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_199616300791175682"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111849019&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 62)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111862425"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>63.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment63" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111862425">20:38</a> 29th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14310348" class="comment_username_1449755">Paul</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>At 16:13 28th Feb 2012, Neil M wrote:<br><br><br>Please could you respond to your customer complaints<br><br><br>the worst part of all, we are not the cutomers, as licensee payers , we are the owners...and still they ignore us.<br><br>Just checked in to see the england score.... 4 clicks to get to live updates</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1449755"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111862425&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 63)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111862837"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>64.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment64" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111862837">21:26</a> 29th Feb 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=14310348" class="comment_username_1449755">Paul</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>edit.<br><br>Just noticed there is a link to the england match on the "homepage", but i was looking under the sport heading.....should have known it wouldn't be there</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_1449755"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111862837&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 64)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111908263"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>65.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment65" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111908263">10:43</a> 6th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15091289" class="comment_username_190882000364314624">D G Newcombe</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Please note: no comments since 29 February does not mean that people like the new homepage nor that they have got used to it. Those in charge of this change should not interpret this a an endorsement of the new design. Rather, it may mean simply that the new homepage has become irrelevant as people, like me, have found it such a mess that we no longer visit it or use it as our personal web portal. For a more robust and on-going debate on the merits of the BBCs new design,see the Sport Editor's blog, although this page too may recede into irrelevance as users continue to leave what is arguably one of the most irritating and unfriendly web pages going (second only to the BBC homepage shambles). Still, it is a shame that the necessary changes have not really been for the better.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_190882000364314624"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111908263&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 65)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111924624"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>66.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment66" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111924624">21:54</a> 7th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15177173" class="comment_username_201103872645925890">Neil Adams</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Good new features, but I did notice a few compatibility problems with Opera, at least within the first few days (I believe these are fixed now). I'm interested to see that there are a fair few users who didn't think the changes were positive, I wonder if the webmasters have taken onboard the feedback?<br><br>[Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_201103872645925890"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111924624&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 66)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111926128"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>67.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment67" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111926128">08:56</a> 8th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15048414" class="comment_username_124610393583147277">Cramps</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>Interesting that iGoogle (the one I been using since the BBC changed its homepage) has a new look coming soon. Looks very good, looks very familiar. Maybe the BBC should have a look and get some ideas.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_124610393583147277"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111926128&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 67)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111956341"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>68.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment68" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111956341">17:06</a> 11th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=13992901" class="comment_username_3539355">martybartfast</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>As Bede1952 said, a lack of comments should not be taken to mean that people are happy with the homepage. I nolonger visit the BBC homepage whereas I used to visit it several times a day, and similarly therefore I never click through to other BBC pages, nowadays the only time I go to a BBC page is if something interesting is linked in to my iGoogle page (which I set up following the creation of the Hollyoaks Homepage), but Reuters news now gets as many visits from me as BBC news does - very sad :-( . Caveat: I did just visit the homepage to see if anything has changed and I see that it's still awful :-)<br><br>No matter how much you tweak the homepage, the old addage "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" stands up well as you have made a right pig's ear out of what was once an outstanding site.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_3539355"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111956341&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 68)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_111989202"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>69.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment69" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=111989202">23:49</a> 14th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=542776" class="comment_username_405817">JustAnotherNumber</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p class="comment-text-moderation"> <span class="comment_moderated_username_405817">This</span> comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml" target="_blank">Explain</a>. </p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_405817"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=111989202&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 69)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_112006215"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>70.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment70" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=112006215">19:01</a> 16th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15049109" class="comment_username_183317486252063492">marcus1972</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I've just looked at BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 homepages and apart from the logo they are all the same.<br><br>The BBC have gone the 'me-too' design. <br><br>Such a shame.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_183317486252063492"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=112006215&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 70)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_112027798"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>71.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment71" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=112027798">11:58</a> 19th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15048414" class="comment_username_124610393583147277">Cramps</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=clNkQVsFdUGlIiUda&amp;jobid=42539,2361826598&amp;key=59284066&amp;c=768702124056&amp;pagestamp=sexklhjkwbjcwdjnki">https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=clNkQVsFdUGlIiUda&amp;jobid=42539,2361826598&amp;key=59284066&amp;c=768702124056&amp;pagestamp=sexklhjkwbjcwdjnki</a><br><br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=clNkQVsFdUGlIiUda&amp;jobid=42539,2361826598&amp;key=59284066&amp;c=768702124056&amp;pagestamp=sexklhjkwbjcwdjnki">https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=clNkQVsFdUGlIiUda&amp;jobid=42539,2361826598&amp;key=59284066&amp;c=768702124056&amp;pagestamp=sexklhjkwbjcwdjnki</a><br><br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=LxgIfLQnAyPBgDdPyv&amp;jobid=42549,8761825965&amp;key=59284066&amp;c=768702124056&amp;pagestamp=sexklhjkwbjcwdjnki">https://careers.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=LxgIfLQnAyPBgDdPyv&amp;jobid=42549,8761825965&amp;key=59284066&amp;c=768702124056&amp;pagestamp=sexklhjkwbjcwdjnki</a><br><br>Three new jobs. Have they finally listened and are going to change the Homepage? Have heads rolled? I really hope so</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_124610393583147277"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=112027798&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 71)</span></a></p> </div> </li> <li class=" " id="comment_112044576"> <h4 class="comments_comment_number"><span class="dna-hide">Comment number </span>72.</h4> <cite class="comments_user_info"> At <a class="time" name="comment72" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www-sis.bbc.net.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/01/bbc_homepage_localisation_acce.html?postId=112044576">21:57</a> 20th Mar 2012, <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/profile.shtml?userid=15049596" class="comment_username_167764605130661635">Irish_Tom</a></span></span> wrote: </cite> <div class="comment-text"><div> <p>I'm glad James and the team are making improvements to the woeful BBC home page. Unfortunately I won't 'benefit' from them as I've stopped using it since the launch.<br><br>I thought I'd return to the blog section to give people an update on the FOI request I made in January regarding the BETA test results.<br><br>At the time I was given the standard response; the information I requested is exempt from the FOI Act because it is held for the purposed of 'the arts, media and journalism' and to release the information would infringe the BBC's right to freedom of expression.<br><br>I took the case to the Information Commissioner's Office who have taken a while to go through the correct procedures. In fact, they delayed their response because they were waiting for the results of a Supreme Court ruling relating to the FOIA and the case of The BBC vs. Mr. Sugar. <br><br>I won't go into the details of that case, but ultimately it means that the BBC can withhold 99.9% of the information they keep because it can all be classified as being used for the purposes of 'the arts, media and journalism' and so can be exempt from FOI requests.<br><br>The ICO said that because the BBC won the Supreme Court ruling, there was little hope of winning a legal battle with regard to the BETA test results, and while my representative agreed with us in principle, he said there was no point pursuing it.<br><br>As such, I expect we will never see the results of that survey, or any other survey the BBC hosts for that matter. They now have carte blanche to do and say what ever they like with little-or-no accountability.<br><br>As such, I suggest everyone gives up complaining about the terrible BBC website — we won't make a difference so why waste our breath? <br><br>Equally, I would advise everyone not to bother completing any BBC surveys or providing any feedback for anything, as it will be ignored and they will do what they want regardless.<br><br>Good luck to those who plan to continue the fight but I've lost all faith in the BBC and won't be wasting my time any longer.</p> </div></div> <div class="dna-comments-comment-footer"> <p class="flag comment_complain_167764605130661635"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190422192220/https://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog101/comments/UserComplaintPage?hostsource=uk&amp;PostID=112044576&amp;s_start=1" class="popup">Complain about this comment<span class="dna-hide"> (Comment number 72)</span></a></p> </div> </li> </ul><div class="ieclear"> </div> </div> </div> <div class="dna-comments-footer"> <p class="dna-commentbox-nocomments"> <span class="forumclosed">This entry is now closed for comments</span> </p> </div> </div> <script type="text/javascript"> /* fix to make new permalinks backwards compatible */ var hash=location.hash; if (hash) { var postId = hash.match(/P([0-9]*)/); if (postId && typeof(postId) == 'object' && postId[1]) { var ele = document.getElementById('comment_' + postId[1]); if (ele) { ele.className = 'target_comment'; window.location = '#comment_' + postId[1]; } else { window.location = location.pathname + '?postId=' + postId[1] + '#comment_' + postId[1]; } } } var captchafixfunc = function() { if (typeof(comments) == 'object' && typeof(comments.loadPage) == 'function') { comments.destroyRecaptcha = function() { return true; } clearInterval(captchafix); delete(captchafix) } } var captchafix = setInterval("captchafixfunc()", 1000); </script></div> </div> <!--contents ends here--> <!-- sidebar starts here --> <div class="sidebar"> <p class="jump"><a href="#jump_more">Jump to more content from this blog</a></p> <div class="block block-one about"> <div class="wrap1"> <div class="wrap2"> <div class="wrap3"> <div class="title"><h3>About this blog</h3></div> <div class="inner"> Staff from the BBC's online and technology teams talk about BBC Online, BBC iPlayer, and the BBC's digital and mobile services. 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