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role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><div style="padding-top: 6px; padding-bottom: 5px;"><b>This is an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_namespace#How-to_and_information_pages" title="Wikipedia:Project namespace">explanatory essay</a> about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves</a></b>. <br/><div style="font-size:90%;"> This page provides additional information about concepts in the page(s) it supplements. This page is not one of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies or guidelines</a> as it has not been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#Levels_of_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">thoroughly vetted by the community</a>.</div></div></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1252059228">.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain{float:right;margin:0 0 0 1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);padding:0.3em 0.6em 0.2em 0.6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxleft{float:left;margin:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutlist{display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);margin-bottom:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain ul{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutanchordiv{position:relative;top:-3em}.mw-parser-output li .module-shortcutanchordiv{float:right}.mw-parser-output .mbox-imageright .module-shortcutboxplain{padding:0.4em 1em 0.4em 1em;line-height:1.3;margin:0}</style><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMCI"></span><span id="WP:RMCLOSE"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMCI&redirect=no">WP:RMCI</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMCLOSE&redirect=no">WP:RMCLOSE</a></span></li></ul></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="shortdescription nomobile noexcerpt noprint searchaux" style="display:none">Explanatory essay about Wikipedia:Requested moves</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238436933"><table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice nutshell" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Walnut.svg/30px-Walnut.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Walnut.svg/45px-Walnut.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Walnut.svg/60px-Walnut.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="192" data-file-height="192"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><b>This page in a nutshell:</b> <ol><li>Don't close requested moves if you are involved;</li> <li>If you are not an administrator you should be cautious when closing contentious requests;</li> <li>Determine <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSENSUS">consensus</a> on the request or relist it for further discussion;</li> <li>Investigate the page history of the target page title; if <i>minor</i>, it may be deleted; if <i>major</i>, perform a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_fix_cut-and-paste_moves" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves">history merge</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SWAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SWAP">history swap</a>, or archive and place a link on the talk page;</li> <li>Close the move request on the talk page using {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RM_top" title="Template:RM top">subst:RM top</a>}} and {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RM_bottom" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RM bottom">subst:RM bottom</a>}}.</li> <li>If renamed then <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POSTMOVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POSTMOVE">clean up after the move</a></li></ol></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>The following are suggestions for closing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves</a> discussions. These should generally be applied only after the normal seven-day listing period has elapsed. These suggestions are addressed to formal move requests that occur on talk pages, i.e. <i>controversial</i> move requests, but are instructive as to the necessary page history investigation and preservation and cleanup procedures advisable upon any move. Requests listed in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests">technical requests</a> section can be simply removed after they have been processed. Where technical moves are contested, move the listing to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests#Contested_technical_requests" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests">contested technical requests section</a>. </p><p>Failure of an RM closer to follow the spirit and intent of these instructions, especially about <a href="#Determining_consensus">properly weighing consensus with applicable policies and guidelines</a>, may result in the initiation of a <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">Move Review</a></b>. </p><p>Closers may find <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_RM_closing_instructions" title="Wikipedia:Simple RM closing instructions"><b>this guide</b></a> helpful when considering the technical task of closing a discussion. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Who_can_close_requested_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Who_can_close_requested_moves"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span>Who can close requested moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Who can close requested moves"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Conflicts_of_interest" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conflicts_of_interest-Who_can_close_requested_moves"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conflicts_of_interest-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span>Conflicts of interest<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conflicts_of_interest-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Conflicts of interest"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>An <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INVOLVED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INVOLVED">involved</a> editor, whether an administrator or otherwise, may <b>not</b> close a move request (with certain exceptions, detailed below). </p><p>You are considered involved<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>a<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> if: </p> <ul><li>You have ever opened a request to move the page</li> <li>You have ever supported or opposed a request to move the page</li> <li>You have ever closed a previous controversial request to move the page</li> <li>You have ever <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">boldly</a> moved the page to a title you prefer (i.e., not including reverting <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOVEVANDAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOVEVANDAL">page move vandalism</a> or performing a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM/TR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM/TR">technical request</a>)</li> <li>You have ever commented on any talk page in a way that has indicated a clear position on the specific move request</li> <li>Your editing on the page has demonstrated a clear position on the move request</li></ul> <p>An involved editor may comment in a move discussion, solicit a closure, or make a new move request at a later date, but may not close an open move request. When you are an involved editor, trust the process and leave the close to one of the many, many other editors on Wikipedia who are capable of closing move discussions. </p><p>If you wish to solicit a closure after at least a week of discussion has taken place, you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Closure_requests" title="Wikipedia:Closure requests">make a request</a> for an impartial administrator to assess consensus. The closer should be familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines (especially those relating to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles" title="Wikipedia:Article titles">article titles</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">disambiguation</a>) as well as the procedures described on this page. Do not ask for a specific closer under any circumstances. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Non-admin_closure" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non-admin_closure-Who_can_close_requested_moves"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non-admin_closure-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span>Non-admin closure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non-admin_closure-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Non-admin closure"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMNAC"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMNAC&redirect=no">WP:RMNAC</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>Experienced and uninvolved registered editors in good standing are encouraged to close requested move discussions. Any non-admin closure (NAC) must be explicitly declared with an appropriate template (such as {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RMnac" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RMnac">subst:RMnac</a>}}) placed directly after the reasoning for the close within the {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RM_top" title="Template:RM top">subst:RM top</a>}} template (or use the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|nac=</code> parameter in the closing template). </p><p>Non-administrators are reminded that closing a discussion calls for an impartial assessment of consensus or lack thereof, although arguments supported by directly relevant policy and guidelines are given more weight (while keeping broader Wikipedia policy, guidelines, and consensus in mind). Any editor wishing to express an opinion on the requested move should join the discussion, not close it. </p><p>Anyone, administrator or not, who wishes to close a requested move must be very familiar with the policies and guidelines associated with it (especially <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles" title="Wikipedia:Article titles">Wikipedia:Article titles</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">Wikipedia:Disambiguation</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">Wikipedia:Consensus</a>), and ideally will have participated in several move requests previously. All closures of requested moves are subject to being taken to review at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">WP:Move review</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MRV">WP:MRV</a>), but assuming the criteria above are met, the mere fact that the closer was not an admin is not sufficient reason to reverse a closure. Indeed, many high-profile, controversial move requests have been closed as NACs, taken to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MRV">WP:MRV</a>, and affirmed there. While non-admins should be cautious (as indeed all move closers should be) when closing discussions where significant contentious debate among participants is unresolved, any experienced and uninvolved editor in good standing may close any RM debate. </p><p>Occasionally, a move involves a redirect with multiple revisions, and requires technical intervention. Editors are permitted to close the discussion and file a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RMTM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RMTM">technical move</a> with a link to the closed discussion. The results of discussions in favor of moves should generally be respected by the administrator (or page mover). If an administrator notices a clearly improper move closure, they should revert the closure and re-open the discussion. </p><p>In any case where a non-admin closer does resort to a technical move request, the closer should actively monitor that request, and be ready and willing to perform all tidying after the move (as <a href="#Cleaning_up_after_the_move">instructed below</a>), such as updating fair-use rationales and navbox links included on the page. If a non-admin closer is not willing to wait for the technical deletion and to perform the follow up in this manner, they should only close requested moves that do not require technical intervention. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Closure_by_a_page_mover" data-mw-thread-id="h-Closure_by_a_page_mover-Non-admin_closure"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Closure_by_a_page_mover-Non-admin_closure"></span>Closure by a page mover<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Closure_by_a_page_mover-Non-admin_closure"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Closure by a page mover"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1236090951">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output .hatnote+link+.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .hatnote{display:none!important}}</style><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">Further information: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Page mover">Wikipedia:Page mover</a> and <a href="/wiki/Template:RMnac" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RMnac">Template:RMnac</a></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMPMC"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMPMC&redirect=no">WP:RMPMC</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>Editors with the page mover permission can perform certain technical moves without administrator assistance, such as a move over a redirect with more than one edit via a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PMVR#rr" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PMVR">round-robin</a> page swap. A user is granted the page mover right after demonstrating a good understanding of the Wikipedia page naming system and decent page moving experience. Since closure by a page mover is a type of non-admin closure, it should be labeled as such using {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RMnac" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RMnac">subst:RMnac</a>}}, {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RMpmc" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RMpmc">subst:RMpmc</a>}} or equivalent (or use the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|pmc=</code> parameter in the closing template). </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Early_closure" data-mw-thread-id="h-Early_closure-Who_can_close_requested_moves"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Early_closure-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span>Early closure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Early_closure-Who_can_close_requested_moves"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Early closure"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMEC"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMEC&redirect=no">WP:RMEC</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>In general, move discussions should remain open for at least seven days (168 hours) to allow interested editors adequate time to participate. However, when no one has commented yet, or if opposition is unanimous, discussions may be closed prior to the seven-day timeframe for the following reasons: </p> <ul><li>As long as no one has suggested any outcome besides <i>not moving</i>, the <i>proposer</i> of a move may withdraw their request. The closure should say that the request was <b>withdrawn</b>.</li> <li>Further, any editor may end such a move request with a <b>procedural close</b> if the request was initiated via <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Evasion_and_enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">block evasion</a>.</li></ul> <p>Under those two circumstances, it is fine for the closer to have been involved in the discussion. </p><p>Additionally, when the outcome of the move discussion is, or has become, almost certain, such that there is not a "snowball's chance in hell" that the outcome will be anything other than what is expected, and there is clearly no need at all to prolong discussion further, the discussion may be closed early under the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Snowball_clause" title="Wikipedia:Snowball clause">snowball clause</a></b>. </p> <ul><li>This clause should not be used to close a discussion when a particular outcome is merely "likely" or "highly likely", and there is a genuine and reasoned basis for disagreement. This is because move discussions are not a vote; it is important to be reasonably sure that there is little or no chance of accidentally excluding significant input or perspectives, or changing the weight of different views, if closed early. Especially, closers should beware of interpreting "early pile on" as necessarily showing how a discussion will end up. This can sometimes happen when a topic attracts high levels of attention from those engaged (or having a specific view) but slower attention from other less involved editors, perhaps with other points of view. It can sometimes be better to allow a few extra days even if current discussion seems very clearly to hold one opinion, to avoid precluding significant input and as a courtesy to ensure that it really will be a snowball.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Determining_consensus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Determining_consensus"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Determining_consensus"></span>Determining consensus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Determining_consensus"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Determining consensus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMCIDC"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMCIDC&redirect=no">WP:RMCIDC</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">Consensus</a> is determined not just by considering the preferences of the participants in a given discussion, but also by evaluating their arguments, assigning due weight accordingly, and giving due consideration to the relevant consensus of the Wikipedia community in general as reflected in applicable policy, guidelines and naming conventions. </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMNOMIN"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMNOMIN&redirect=no">WP:RMNOMIN</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p><b><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238216509">.mw-parser-output .vanchor>:target~.vanchor-text{background-color:#b1d2ff}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .vanchor>:target~.vanchor-text{background-color:#0f4dc9}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .vanchor>:target~.vanchor-text{background-color:#0f4dc9}}</style><span class="vanchor"><span id="No_minimum_participation_is_required"></span><span class="vanchor-text">No minimum participation is required</span></span></b> for requested moves. If no one has objected, go ahead and perform the move as requested unless it is out of keeping with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions">naming conventions</a> or is otherwise in conflict with applicable guidelines or policy. Further, any move request that is out of keeping with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions">naming conventions</a> or is otherwise in conflict with applicable guideline and policy, unless there is a very good reason to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IAR">ignore rules</a>, should be closed without moving regardless of how many of the participants support it. Remember, the participants in any given discussion represent only a tiny fraction of the Wikipedia community whose consensus is reflected in the policy, guidelines and conventions to which all titles are to adhere. Thus, closers are expected to be familiar with such matters, so that they have the ability to make these assessments. </p><p>If objections have been raised, then the discussion should be evaluated just like any other discussion on Wikipedia: lack of consensus among participants along with no clear indication from policy and conventions normally means that no change happens (though like AfD, this is not a vote and the quality of an argument is more important than whether it comes from a minority or a majority). However, sometimes a requested move is filed in response to a recent move from a long existing name that cannot be undone without administrative help. Therefore, if no consensus has been reached, the closer should move the article back to the most recent stable title. If no recent title has been stable, then the article should be moved to the title used by the first major contributor after the article ceased to be a stub. </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:RMNCREV"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RMNCREV&redirect=no">WP:RMNCREV</a></span></li></ul></div></div><p><span class="anchor" id="RM_no_consensus_revert"></span> </p><p>Note that according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#No_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">Wikipedia:Consensus § No consensus</a>: </p> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">When article title discussions end without consensus, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLECHANGES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLECHANGES">applicable policy</a> preserves the most recent stable title. If there is no prior stable title, then the default is the title used by the first major contributor after the article ceased to be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" title="Wikipedia:Stub">stub</a>. </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>Therefore, if a page has been moved from a long-standing title, and it is not possible to move the page back to its original title during the discussion, the default title will be the title prior to the contested move. For example, if an article is created at <a href="/wiki/Soda_can" class="mw-redirect" title="Soda can">Soda can</a> and stays there for years prior to being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLDly</a> moved to <a href="/wiki/Pop_can" class="mw-redirect" title="Pop can">pop can</a>, and a move request is filed leading to a decision of "no consensus", the article must be moved back to its longstanding title. This is the case even if the <i>original</i> page was placed at <a href="/wiki/Pop_can" class="mw-redirect" title="Pop can">pop can</a> or <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fizzy_drink_can&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fizzy drink can (page does not exist)">fizzy drink can</a> or <a href="/w/index.php?title=Orangutan-flavored_soft_drink_can&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Orangutan-flavored soft drink can (page does not exist)">orangutan-flavored soft drink can</a>, as long as <a href="/wiki/Soda_can" class="mw-redirect" title="Soda can">soda can</a> took over through consensus and can be determined to be the actual long-standing title. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Relisting" data-mw-thread-id="h-Relisting-Determining_consensus"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Relisting-Determining_consensus"></span>Relisting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Relisting-Determining_consensus"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Relisting"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">For the instructions on relisting move discussions, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Relisting_a_requested_move" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves § Relisting a requested move</a>.</div> <p>Relisting is an option when a discussion cannot otherwise be closed, usually due to lack of consensus. Editors are under no obligation to wait to close a move request after it is relisted. Once a move request has been open for the full seven days, it may be closed at any time by an uninvolved editor. Closers wait mainly for general agreement, for consensus, to emerge. </p><p><b>Exception:</b> if a page is added while relisting. Sometimes editors may not realize that to move page A to B, page B must first be moved to C. When a new page move request is added to one that is already seven days old, the RMCD bot places the notification tag on the newly added page that day, and the discussion must go a full seven days (more) before being closed. It is helpful to closers when relisters leave a note just below the nomination that this happened. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Relisting_and_participating" data-mw-thread-id="h-Relisting_and_participating-Relisting"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Relisting_and_participating-Relisting"></span>Relisting and participating<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Relisting_and_participating-Relisting"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Relisting and participating"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>A relister may later become a participant or closer in the requested move discussion or survey. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Only_move_involved_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Only_move_involved_pages-Determining_consensus"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Only_move_involved_pages-Determining_consensus"></span>Only move involved pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Only_move_involved_pages-Determining_consensus"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Only move involved pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>A move request about moving X to Y should never be closed in such a way as to require page Z to move if Z wasn't listed in the original move request (see <a href="#Moves_of_other_pages">below</a>). </p><p>Where a discussion would result in the original title pointing to a "Foo (disambiguation)" page, the practice of pagemovers has been to immediately move the disambiguation page to the base page name, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MALPLACED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MALPLACED">WP:MALPLACED</a>. This is because a disambiguation page is presumed to belong at the base page name unless that title is taken by a primary topic. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement"><span id="Write_a_clear.2C_concise_closing_statement"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement"></span><span class="anchor" id="Three_possible_outcomes"></span>Write a clear, concise closing statement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Write a clear, concise closing statement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:THREEOUTCOMES"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:THREEOUTCOMES&redirect=no">WP:THREEOUTCOMES</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">Further information: <a href="#Determining_consensus">§ Determining consensus</a></div> <p>There are generally three different outcomes for consensus in requested moves. The closer should clearly show which outcome has taken place so that other editors may quickly see the progression of consensus regarding the title; it is much easier to move an article that has never had a firm consensus about the title. </p> <ol><li><b>Moved</b> (or <b>consensus to move</b>) should be used when consensus <i>is</i> found to rename the page. If there is any question whatsoever as to <i>which</i> title it should be moved to, please note this in the closing summary (e.g. "<b>moved to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Squeezy_Jos%C3%A9&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Squeezy José (page does not exist)">Squeezy José</a></b>"). This almost always sets a consensus for the new title, and further requests to move the page are likely to fail unless new information or arguments are brought forth.</li> <li><b>Not moved</b> (or <b>consensus not to move</b>) should be used when a consensus <i>has</i> formed to keep the current title and <i>not</i> rename the article(s) in question. For instance, a proposal to rename <a href="/wiki/Bob_Dylan" title="Bob Dylan">Bob Dylan</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Squeezy_Joe&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Squeezy Joe (page does not exist)">Squeezy Joe</a> would likely result in everyone (or nearly everyone) agreeing that the proposed move should not take place; this notifies other editors that they should probably not propose this move in the future until and unless circumstances change. There is a positive consensus found, and that consensus is for the page to stay exactly where it is.</li> <li><b>No consensus</b> should be used when there is neither a consensus to move <i>nor</i> a consensus to keep the current title. This may be because a discussion has fractured into several possible titles and none seem especially suitable, or simply because equally strong arguments and appeals to Wikipedia policy and outside sources were found on both sides, without any clear reason to move the page found in the discussion. Of course, as elsewhere on Wikipedia, this usually means that no action is to be taken at the present time.</li></ol> <p>While it is usually bad form to re-request a move if consensus <i>is</i> found against it (until and unless circumstances change), it is <i>not</i> considered bad form to re-raise a request that found "no consensus" to move. (Successful move re-requests generally, though not always, take place at least three months after the previous one. An exception is when the no-consensus move discussion suggests a clear, new course of action.) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussions_involving_multiple_options" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussions_involving_multiple_options-Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussions_involving_multiple_options-Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement"></span>Discussions involving multiple options<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussions_involving_multiple_options-Write_a_clear,_concise_closing_statement"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Discussions involving multiple options"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">See also: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bartender" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Bartender">WP:Bartender</a></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:NOGOODOPTIONS"></span><span id="WP:OTHEROPTIONS"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOGOODOPTIONS&redirect=no">WP:NOGOODOPTIONS</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:OTHEROPTIONS&redirect=no">WP:OTHEROPTIONS</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>Most move requests are simple. Alice proposes that we move X to Y. Bob, Carol and Dave chime in. Edgar analyzes the discussion and decides whether there is a consensus, and then gives one of the three outcomes above. </p><p>But sometimes things get complicated. Alice proposes moving X to Y, but then Bob raises real concerns about Y, and proposes Z instead. Carol says, no, we should stay with Y. Dave says we actually need to keep the article at X. Edgar shows up and is very confused. What does he do? </p><p>If you as a closer are in doubt because too many titles have been proposed and there's no real consensus anywhere, it is generally best to <b>close as no consensus</b> and allow someone to re-propose the move to a more specific or better title. </p> <p><span class="anchor" id="NOTCURRENTTITLE"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"></p><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTCURRENTTITLE&redirect=no">WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>But then again, there are situations where multiple names have been proposed and no consensus arises out of any, except that it <b>is</b> determined that the current title should <i>not</i> host the article. (There are good arguments for Y, and there are good arguments for Z, but there are virtually <i>no</i> good arguments for it to stay at X.) In these difficult circumstances, the closer should pick the best title of the options available, and then make clear that while consensus has rejected the former title (and no request to bring it back should be made lightly), there is no consensus for the title actually chosen. Because such closures are inherently complex and require the closer to use more independent judgment than normal, it is <i>strongly encouraged</i> to provide an explicit closing statement in such closures. As this result does not indicate a consensus for the chosen title, anyone who objects to the closer's decision may make another move request <i>at any time</i>, and is advised to create such a request instead of taking the closure to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MRV">move review</a>. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Closing_the_requested_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Closing_the_requested_move-20250217110000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Closing_the_requested_move-20250217110000"></span>Closing the requested move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Closing_the_requested_move-20250217110000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Closing the requested move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p>When you complete an entry on the project (whether the move was accepted or rejected), <b>remove the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/dated" title="Template:Requested move/dated">requested move/dated</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag from the talk page</b>, or change {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/dated" title="Template:Requested move/dated">requested move/<b>dated</b></a>}} to {{<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Subst" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Subst"><b>subst</b></a>:<a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/end" title="Template:Requested move/end">requested move/<b>end</b></a>}}. You should also add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected in the discussion area for the requested move. To ease things a little bit, there are several scripts that can help, with the most common being <a href="/wiki/User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser" title="User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser">User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser</a> (followed by <a href="/wiki/User:DannyS712/PageMoverClosure" title="User:DannyS712/PageMoverClosure">User:DannyS712/PageMoverClosure</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Andy_M._Wang/closeRM" title="User:Andy M. Wang/closeRM">User:Andy M. Wang/closeRM</a>). </p><p>While historically, there have been other options for closing the move request survey on the affected article's talk page, nowadays we exclusively use the twin templates <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:RM_top" title="Template:RM top">subst:RM top</a>|<b>result of the discussion</b>.}}</code> and {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RM_bottom" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RM bottom">subst:RM bottom</a>}}. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Step-by-step_closing_procedure" data-mw-thread-id="h-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-Closing_the_requested_move-20250217110000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-Closing_the_requested_move-20250217110000"></span>Step-by-step closing procedure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-Closing_the_requested_move-20250217110000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Step-by-step closing procedure"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure"></span>After clicking the [edit] tab next to the move discussion, you may follow these step-by-step instructions for closing an RM discussion: </p> <table class="wikitable" style="font-size: 90%; text-align: center; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <th>Before closing </th> <th>After closing </th> <th>Description </th></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: lightgray">==Requested move== </td> <td style="background-color: lightgray">==Requested move== </td> <td>Leave the heading alone; the close starts below it. </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: yellow">{{Requested move/dated|Foo}} </td> <td style="background-color: lightgreen">{{subst:RM top|'''RESULT.'''<span class="anonymous-show extendedconfirmed-show">|<span class="extendedmover-show">pm</span>nac=yes</span>}} </td> <td>Replace text on left with text on right. </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: lightgray"><i>DISCUSSION</i> </td> <td style="background-color: lightgray"><i>DISCUSSION</i> </td> <td>Body of the discussion stays unchanged. </td></tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td style="background-color: lightgreen;">{{subst:RM bottom}} </td> <td>Add the bottom template. </td></tr> </tbody></table> <ul><li>If additional explanation is provided as to why you have closed the move discussion as a certain result, add additional comments immediately after <b>'''RESULT'''.</b>.</li> <li>Save the page with an edit summary such as "<code>Closing requested move survey; page moved/not moved</code>".</li></ul> <p>After closing, the page should look similar to this: </p> <div class="boilerplate mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color: var(--background-color-success-subtle, #efe); color: var(--color-base, #000); margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted var(--border-color-subtle, #AAAAAA);"> <dl><dd><i>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color: var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a> after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>RESULT</b>. [Additional comments]. <span class="anonymous-show extendedconfirmed-show"><small>(<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#Non-admin_closure">non-admin closure</a>)</small> </span><a href="/wiki/User:Example" title="User:Example">Example</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Example" title="User talk:Example">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Foo" class="mw-redirect" title="Foo"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-1"></span>Foo</a> → <a href="/wiki/Foobar" title="Foobar">Foobar</a> – rationale of nominator. <a href="/wiki/User:Example" title="User:Example">Example</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Example" title="User talk:Example">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Example-20250217110000-Step-by-step_closing_procedure-1"></span> </p> <ul><li><b>Supports/Opposes</b> with discussion</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Add_{{Old_moves}}_to_the_talk_page_if_so_desired" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_{{Old_moves}}_to_the_talk_page_if_so_desired-Closing_the_requested_move"><span id="Add_.7B.7BOld_moves.7D.7D_to_the_talk_page_if_so_desired"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_{{Old_moves}}_to_the_talk_page_if_so_desired-Closing_the_requested_move"></span>Add <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Old_moves" title="Template:Old moves">Old moves</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to the talk page if so desired<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_{{Old_moves}}_to_the_talk_page_if_so_desired-Closing_the_requested_move"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Add {{Old moves}} to the talk page if so desired"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>After the move is complete, the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Old_moves" title="Template:Old moves">Old moves</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template may be added to the top of the talk page (or updated if already present), allowing editors to see previous move discussions that might otherwise be archived. This is helpful for titles that are likely to be challenged again, so that any would-be re-proposer can make reference to previous arguments and consider how a consensus may be formed to move. In the case of pages with multiple move discussions, these templates should always be added/updated after the closure of an RM. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Automatic_removals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Automatic_removals-Closing_the_requested_move"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Automatic_removals-Closing_the_requested_move"></span>Automatic removals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Automatic_removals-Closing_the_requested_move"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Automatic removals"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Once the article's talk page has been updated, there's no need to return to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves</a> page and delete the article's entry there; this will be performed automatically by a bot. </p><p>Likewise, <a href="/wiki/User:RMCD_bot" title="User:RMCD bot">RMCD bot</a> will remove the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Title_notice" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Title notice">Title notice</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> from the page itself within 15 minutes. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Using_move_protection_during_RMs_and_immediately_after_RM_closes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Using_move_protection_during_RMs_and_immediately_after_RM_closes-Closing_the_requested_move"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Using_move_protection_during_RMs_and_immediately_after_RM_closes-Closing_the_requested_move"></span>Using move protection during RMs and immediately after RM closes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Using_move_protection_during_RMs_and_immediately_after_RM_closes-Closing_the_requested_move"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Using move protection during RMs and immediately after RM closes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">See also: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOVP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOVP">WP:MOVP</a></div> <p>Some RM discussions are contentious; undiscussed, unilateral page moves during a discussion or page moves made immediately after and contrary to an RM close decision are disruptive and hurt the integrity of the RM process. Admins monitoring RM discussions should use their discretion to <i>move protect</i> articles during contentious RM discussions when they believe a premature, undiscussed unilateral move would be disruptive to the discussion. The same discretion should be used to start or continue move protection immediately after the RM close. Generally, such move protection should be limited to no more than 30 days under normal circumstances. The RM closing comment should reference the move protection. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Moving_procedures" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moving_procedures"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moving_procedures"></span>Moving procedures<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moving_procedures"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Moving procedures"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Edit_history_of_destination_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_history_of_destination_page-Moving_procedures"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_history_of_destination_page-Moving_procedures"></span>Edit history of destination page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_history_of_destination_page-Moving_procedures"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Edit history of destination page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The majority of target names for move requests already exist as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REDIRECT">redirects</a> to the present names. Whether a redirect or otherwise, that existing target title should be investigated to see whether it has a minor or major <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">page history</a>. If it has a <i>minor</i> page history, generally meaning it only existed as a redirect, and was never a duplicate article, never had content that was cut and pasted to the present title, nor merged there, <i>it may simply be deleted.</i> However, if the target page title has a <i>major</i> history it should <b>never</b> be simply deleted, as we need to retain such page histories for proper <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">copyright</a> attribution. There are three ways to deal with target pages with major histories, dependent on circumstances. In the event this situation presents itself on a move, click "show" below for instructions. </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1214851843">.mw-parser-output .hidden-begin{box-sizing:border-box;width:100%;padding:5px;border:none;font-size:95%}.mw-parser-output .hidden-title{font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .hidden-content{text-align:left}@media all and (max-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .hidden-begin{width:auto!important;clear:none!important;float:none!important}}</style><div class="hidden-begin mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="hidden-title skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="background:AntiqueWhite; text-align:center;">Procedure for redirects with major histories</div><div class="hidden-content mw-collapsible-content" style=""> <ol><li>For page histories resulting from cut and paste moves, the <i>correct</i> way to fix this is to merge the page history of the present article and the redirect, using the procedure outlined at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_guide/Fixing_cut-and-paste_moves" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves">Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves</a>. On rare occasions, this procedure will not work correctly. Once a history merge is done, it cannot easily be undone, so don't pick this option unless it is definitely the right one. You can request history merges at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_history_merge" title="Wikipedia:Requests for history merge">Wikipedia:Requests for history merge</a>.</li> <li>For duplicate articles and merged content, or alternatively for cut and paste moves, the page histories of the article and the redirect can be swapped with a round-robin move. For cut and paste moves this leaves a bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move the redirect with a major history to a temporary name (<code>Draft:Move/<i>NAME</i></code> is suggested), suppressing the creation of a redirect (in the event you forget to suppress the redirect, delete the same); next, move the article to the move target location, again suppressing the redirect and deleting the same if you forget; next, move the redirect from its temporary location to the title at which the article you just moved was formerly located. At this point the redirect will be pointing at itself; re-target it to point to the new location of the article. See also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SWAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SWAP">WP:SWAP</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ROUNDROBIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ROUNDROBIN">WP:ROUNDROBIN</a>.</li> <li>Another option is for redirect pages with major histories to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link then placed on the article's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Talk page">talk page</a>. (An example of such a page is at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Network_SouthEast" title="Talk:Network SouthEast">Talk:Network SouthEast</a>, which was originally created as a duplicate article at <a href="/wiki/Network_SouthEast" title="Network SouthEast">Network SouthEast</a> and later archived, when the original article was moved from <a href="/wiki/Network_South_East" class="mw-redirect" title="Network South East">Network South East</a>).</li></ol> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Cleaning_up_after_the_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cleaning_up_after_the_move-Moving_procedures"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cleaning_up_after_the_move-Moving_procedures"></span>Cleaning up after the move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cleaning_up_after_the_move-Moving_procedures"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Cleaning up after the move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">Main page: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cleaning_up_after_a_move" title="Wikipedia:Cleaning up after a move">Wikipedia:Cleaning up after a move</a></div> <p>You should not close any move if you are unwilling to do the necessary clean up tasks described at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POSTMOVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POSTMOVE">WP:POSTMOVE</a>. Some of the most commonly required cleanup tasks are: </p> <ul><li>Updating the article prose (including the <a href="/wiki/MOS:BOLDTITLE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:BOLDTITLE">first sentence</a>) to use the new name</li> <li>Updating any navigational templates to link directly to the new title, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NAVNOREDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NAVNOREDIRECT">rather than via a redirect</a></li> <li>Fixing any mistargeted wikilinks resulting from the move (only applies when the move involves a change to primary topic)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Moves_of_other_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moves_of_other_pages-Moving_procedures"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moves_of_other_pages-Moving_procedures"></span>Moves of other pages<span class="anchor" id="NOTOTHERPAGES"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moves_of_other_pages-Moving_procedures"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Moves of other pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:NOTOTHERPAGES"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTOTHERPAGES&redirect=no">WP:NOTOTHERPAGES</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>If a page is to be moved as the result of a move request, mention should be made of this in the move proposal and a notice should be placed on the talk page of the article to be moved (unless of course it is hosting the discussion). Generally, a move request on whether to move <a href="/wiki/X" title="X">X</a> to <a href="/wiki/Y" title="Y">Y</a> should have no impact on page <a href="/wiki/Z" title="Z">Z</a>'s title, unless it is initiated as a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Multi-move_request" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Multi-move request">multi-move request</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> that mentions moving Z as a possibility. This is because the editors most interested and aware of Z are not able to contribute their expertise to the naming discussion, since it's happening at a different place without any notice given. </p><p>These situations often come up when <a href="/w/index.php?title=Foo_(barge)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Foo (barge) (page does not exist)">Foo (barge)</a> is proposed to move to, say, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Foo_(enormous_sailing_thing)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Foo (enormous sailing thing) (page does not exist)">Foo (enormous sailing thing)</a>, and someone mentions that they think the barge is actually the primary topic. A consensus of these barge enthusiasts may then informally suggest that the existing article <a href="/wiki/Foo" class="mw-redirect" title="Foo">Foo</a> be moved to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Foo_(bar)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Foo (bar) (page does not exist)">Foo (bar)</a>, without actually notifying Foobar-interested editors by signaling at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Foo" title="Talk:Foo">Talk:Foo</a> that a move request involving that page is taking place. This often leads to strife and another, more contentious move request. If consensus at X signals that Z should move, close the request at <a href="/wiki/Talk:X" title="Talk:X">Talk:X</a>, do not move <a href="/wiki/Z" title="Z">Z</a>, and file a new move request at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Z" title="Talk:Z">Talk:Z</a>. </p><p>Even if consensus is clear, when closing a move request <b>do not move articles that have not been nominated to be moved</b> except in the very clearest and not-even-plausibly controversial situations. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_considerations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_considerations"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_considerations"></span>Bot considerations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_considerations"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Bot considerations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">Please report unresolved incidents at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RMCD_bot" title="User talk:RMCD bot">User talk:RMCD bot</a>.</div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Malformed_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-Malformed_requests-Bot_considerations"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Malformed_requests-Bot_considerations"></span>Malformed requests<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Malformed_requests-Bot_considerations"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Malformed requests"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>A request will be listed in a special section titled <i>"Malformed requests"</i> on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves</a> when the listing bot fails to successfully interpret the request. Please remember to use <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move" title="Template:Requested move">subst:Requested move</a>}}</code> – rather than manually format the request yourself – to avoid this issue. Possible causes and solutions include: </p> <ul><li>The request was appended to an existing talk page section. Add a new section header immediately above the <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/dated" title="Template:Requested move/dated">Requested move/dated</a>}}</code> template.</li> <li>It is OK to change the auto-generated level 2 header to a level 3 header, thus making the RM section a sub-section of an earlier-started discussion.</li> <li>The page requested to be moved is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirect</a>. Only pages with non-redirecting content should be requested to be moved.</li> <li>Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SIGPROB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIGPROB">WP:SIGPROB</a> the timestamp must adhere to the system-generated format (<code>HH:MM, D MM YYYY (UTC)</code>) and must not be customized.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id=""Time_could_not_be_ascertained"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Time_could_not_be_ascertained"-Bot_considerations"><span id=".22Time_could_not_be_ascertained.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Time_could_not_be_ascertained"-Bot_considerations"></span>"Time could not be ascertained"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Time_could_not_be_ascertained"-Bot_considerations"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: "Time could not be ascertained""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>A request will be listed in a special section titled <i>"Time could not be ascertained"</i> on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves</a> when the listing bot cannot ascertain the date on which the request was made. Please remember to use <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move" title="Template:Requested move">subst:Requested move</a>}}</code> – rather than manually format the request yourself – to avoid this issue. Possible causes and solutions include: </p> <ul><li>The move request is not signed. Sign the move request, and the problem is solved. If you are signing for someone else and you use <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Unsigned" title="Template:Unsigned">Unsigned</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, you must place today's time/date stamp for this to remedy the problem, so you can use the form {{subst:unsigned|Foo|~~~~~}}, and note this uses <i>five</i> tildes to place the time stamp, or the actual timestamp can be copied from history - but adding (UTC) is required.<br/>Also remove the <code></code> comment from the end of the line – the bot allows up to 23 bytes following the timestamp at the end of the line, and that comment is 26 bytes long.</li> <li>A missing "–" (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Endash" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Endash">endash</a>) between the proposed move and the proposal description will prevent the description from appearing. This can be fixed by simply adding the missing endash.</li> <li>Unusually formatted signatures will prevent recognizing the end of the proposal description, for example, if the date is formatted Month Day, Year instead of Day Month Year. This can be fixed by editing the timestamp or adding a formatted time stamp.<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Current_discussions&diff=529383718&oldid=529367455">[1]</a></span> In the first case, December 20, 2012 was changed to 20 December 2012, in the second case, a second time stamp was added.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Header_confusion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Header_confusion-Bot_considerations"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Header_confusion-Bot_considerations"></span>Header confusion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Header_confusion-Bot_considerations"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Header confusion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Occasionally two sections with the same <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Section_headings" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Section headings">section heading</a> will appear on a talk page. When this happens, the bot will link to the first one, even if the current move request is the second one. This can be remedied by giving the section containing the current move request a different name, such as "Requested move 2", or by giving the older section a different name, like "Requested move (month year)". A duplicate header for the same discussion can be deleted. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notes"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notes"></span>Notes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notes"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Notes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist reflist-lower-alpha"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">Note that these criteria are significantly stricter than the criteria listed at WP:INVOLVED; this is intentional, befitting the less urgent nature of requested moves.</span> </li> </ol></div></div>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&oldid=1261518803">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions&oldid=1261518803</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_supplemental_pages" title="Category:Wikipedia supplemental pages">Wikipedia supplemental pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Requested_moves" title="Category:Requested moves">Requested moves</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Administrator_instructions" title="Category:Administrator instructions">Administrator instructions</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 6 December 2024, at 14:57<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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