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It was subsequently promoted to <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress">WordPress/WordPress</a>. What I neglected to do, however, was provide an appropriate <code>authors.txt</code> file, until recently. That means that earlier commits are attributed to dummy e-mail addresses and as such cannot be associated with user accounts on GitHub. Considering the recent introduction of <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://github.com/blog/1360-introducing-contributions">contributions on GitHub</a>, this seems a shame. Also, if we were to move to Git in the future, we would probably want our official mirror to have the best possible data.</p> <h2>Proposed</h2> <p>That we re-run the <code>git-svn</code> import with a proper <code>authors.txt</code> file.</p> <h2>Upsides</h2> <p>We’ll have a proper Git mirror with good and consistent author data, that we can, if desired, use for a future migration to Git. Commits will be properly attributed in GitHub.</p> <h2>Downsides</h2> <p>This will break Git history. If you have a Git checkout of WordPress, either standalone or in a submodule, that’ll mean that you’ll have to rebase your master branch off of <code>origin</code> (or even better, blow the whole thing away and re-clone).</p> <p>So: thoughts? Would this ruin your day?</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> Bryan Petty, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/34f970965936aa5ab87a8c8930308203?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/senlin/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Piet</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a>, and 31 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2738" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7470" class="comment byuser comment-author-webord even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e1810347f20cf8e428ad2df4aebb409d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/webord/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gustavo Bordoni</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:25:29Z">4:25 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7470" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7470" class="commentcontent"><p>If this means that WordPress is taking any sort of steps towards using Git as a solution for code versioning I’m all for it!</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7484" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T05:43:20Z">5:43 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7484" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Saddington</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T11:16:50Z">11:16 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7508" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7508" class="commentcontent"><p>LOL. Seriously. Totally sucks to lose that historical contri trail…</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7490" class="comment byuser comment-author-webord even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e1810347f20cf8e428ad2df4aebb409d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/webord/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gustavo Bordoni</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T06:41:11Z">6:41 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7490" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7490" class="commentcontent"><p>I know, just expressing my feeling about git. haha</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7524" class="comment byuser comment-author-claudiosanches odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7dbfeb13cfda599022477203fb141ae2?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://claudiosmweb.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Claudio Sanches</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:28:52Z">3:28 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7524" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7524" class="commentcontent"><p>I also would be happy to use GIT to contribute.</p> <p>I certainly send several Pull Requests <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7525" class="comment byuser comment-author-nacin even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01cfe9feaafb068590891bbd1f6a7f5a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://nacin.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Andrew Nacin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:35:42Z">3:35 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7525" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7525" class="commentcontent"><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://scribu.net/wordpress/contributing-to-wordpress-using-github.html" rel="nofollow">You can already use Git to contribute</a>. We operate using patches (and would probably continue to do so even if we switched).</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7531" class="comment byuser comment-author-wonderboymusic odd alt depth-5"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/112ca15732a80bb928c52caec9d2c8dd?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/wonderboymusic/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Scott Taylor</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T16:26:55Z">4:26 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7531" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7531" class="commentcontent"><p>are Unit Tests on Git yet?</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7471" class="comment byuser comment-author-wonderboymusic even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/112ca15732a80bb928c52caec9d2c8dd?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/wonderboymusic/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Scott Taylor</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:25:38Z">4:25 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7471" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7471" class="commentcontent"><p>DO IT! And document the ideal way to mirror with authors.txt after, please. I mirrored a bunch of repos and forget to do the authors part and I haven’t collected the energy to start over yet.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7482" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T05:18:22Z">5:18 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7482" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7482" class="commentcontent"><p>Authors file is simple: one author per line: “loginname = Joe User “.</p> <p>Run this to generate your initial authors file (from the root of your SVN checkout):<br/> $ svn log -q | awk -F ‘|’ ‘/^r/ {sub(“^ “, “”, $2); sub(” $”, “”, $2); print $2″ = “$2″ “}’ | sort -u > authors.txt</p> <p>Fill in the file with real names and email addresses.</p> <p>I use a modified version of Mark’s script to mirror a ton of repos myself:<br/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://gist.github.com/3061041" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/3061041</a></p> <p>It’s mostly self-explanatory, see forked gist for Mark’s version.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7489" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T06:02:35Z">6:02 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7489" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7489" class="commentcontent"><p>Another thing I’d do is contact everyone in that file and get them to doublecheck that we have an e-mail address that they’re likely to control for life. Probably best to use e-mail at a personal domain, if they have one, instead of Gmail or a company e-mail address that they might lose in the future.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7472" class="comment byuser comment-author-koopersmith odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/26671c19c0d5722d0b1c101fd9d35175?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://darylkoop.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Daryl Koopersmith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:25:53Z">4:25 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7472" 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January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7473" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7473" class="commentcontent"><p>+1</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7502" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a 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class="commentcontent"><p>+1</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7541" class="comment byuser comment-author-senlin odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/34f970965936aa5ab87a8c8930308203?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/senlin/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Piet</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-11T10:45:10Z">10:45 am <em>on</em> January 11, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7541" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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AFAIK, that’s not possible without a complicated script though.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7478" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:56:00Z">4:56 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7478" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7478" class="commentcontent"><p>That would be cool, but I really can’t even think of any way to do something like this with the current repo as is without amending commits after the initial clone, which would be extremely resource intensive and could take weeks to do. Given that and the work involved with integrating the same process into the mirror updates for future commits as well, I would just say forget it.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7480" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T05:04:04Z">5:04 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7480" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7480" class="commentcontent"><p>Actually, come to think about it, git-filter-branch might be able to handle this efficiently.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7488" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T06:00:21Z">6:00 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7488" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7488" class="commentcontent"><p><code>git-filter-branch</code> indeed could do it. It probably wouldn’t be too bad.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7487" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T05:58:53Z">5:58 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7487" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7487" class="commentcontent"><p>Interesting idea. But wouldn’t be able to handle issues with multiple props recipients. But we could give it to the first person or just in this case give it to the committer.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7495" class="comment byuser comment-author-rmccue odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c57c8945079831fa3c19caef02e44614?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/rmccue/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan McCue</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T07:39:06Z">7:39 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7495" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7495" class="commentcontent"><p>Multiple props authors mean that it’s ambiguous who actually created the patch, so the committer should be assigned credit lest we accidentally attribute it to the wrong person.</p> <p>(Also, we’d probably want to make sure that we fix up typos. `rmmcue` for example. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7503" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T09:39:10Z">9:39 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7503" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7503" class="commentcontent"><p>While parsing props like this would be cool I don’t think it would accurately reflect the way our process has worked and I would much rather put effort into collecting the props to commit data into a format we can integrate into the WP.org profiles more easily.</p> <p>I started on this a while back but haven’t finished yet, what I’m mostly missing is an 100% accurate props extraction method.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7504" class="comment byuser comment-author-rmccue odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c57c8945079831fa3c19caef02e44614?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/rmccue/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan McCue</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T09:55:47Z">9:55 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7504" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7504" class="commentcontent"><p>At the moment, there’s basically two forms of commits with props: 1) the committer is merely committing a patch that was on a ticket (this is where we’d want to split author/committer); and 2) the committer is writing the patch with inspiration from someone (we’d want author = committer in this case).</p> <p>As far as I’ve seen, 1 seems to be the much more common case, but 2 is fairly common too. It could be a problem. (Regarding effort, it’s relatively simple using <code>git filter-branch</code>, so that shouldn’t be much of an issue.)</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7475" class="comment byuser comment-author-tw2113 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a5d7c934621fa1c025b83ee79bc62366?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://michaelbox.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Michael Beckwith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:27:14Z">4:27 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7475" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7475" class="commentcontent"><p>I do all my pulling of WP from the svn repo anyway, but I keep an eye on some development via github. No harm for my stuff</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7476" class="comment byuser comment-author-topdown odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/61adfbbcf3690926595a5fb344ae523a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://validwebs.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">topdown</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:31:58Z">4:31 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7476" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7476" class="commentcontent"><p>I think that authors/contributors should be recognized when ever possible…<br/> +1 I say fix it.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7477" class="comment byuser comment-author-mikeschinkel even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/81df87e0d3e269d6fa6a17c6914fd656?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/MikeSchinkel/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schinkel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:48:29Z">4:48 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7477" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7477" class="commentcontent"><p>Got for it!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7479" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T04:59:48Z">4:59 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7479" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7479" class="commentcontent"><p>I think you’re already aware that I actually use my own clone of the WP repo partly for this reason, but also because it’s nice having branch and tag names that are exactly the same as the branch and tag names in SVN. It would be nice if those were fixed up as well if you do this.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7486" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T05:56:02Z">5:56 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7486" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7486" class="commentcontent"><p>Yeah, if we’re doing this, we should take the time to iron out all other niggling issues. Would love to have your input on that. My issue with branch names is that it create ambiguous references. So if you go to checkout “3.5″ it will check out the 3.5 <strong>branch</strong>. In order to check out the 3.5 <strong>tag</strong>, you need to do <code>git checkout tags/3.5</code>. Not the end of the world. Might be worth it to get everything cleaned up.</p> <p>Hey, maybe we can just rebase <strong>me</strong> and retroactively teach me all this Git and Git-SVN subtleties! <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley"/> Just don’t push me, man.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7496" class="comment byuser comment-author-rmccue odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c57c8945079831fa3c19caef02e44614?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/rmccue/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan McCue</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T07:41:09Z">7:41 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7496" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7496" class="commentcontent"><p>The way I do it for SimplePie is to name the branches spelled out (ala WP.org release notice slugs), such as <code>one-dot-two</code>. That avoids the ambiguity there. However, that’s probably a pain for WP.</p> <p>Another option I’ve seen which are popular: rename all tags (or all branches) to <code>vX.X</code> so that any one starting with <code>v</code> is the tag (or branch) and without is the opposite.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7510" class="comment byuser comment-author-boonebgorges even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9cf7c4541a582729a5fc7ae484786c0c?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://buddypress.org/community/members/boonebgorges/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Boone Gorges</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T11:55:32Z">11:55 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7510" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7510" class="commentcontent"><p>For my own stuff I do something like this. `3.5` is the tag, and `3.5.x` is the branch. I think Drupal does it this way.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7519" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell odd alt depth-5"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T14:57:05Z">2:57 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7519" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7519" class="commentcontent"><p>Or enforce 3 digits for all tags and 2 for all branches, so 3.5 is a branch and 3.5.0 is the first 3.5.x tag</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7529" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:48:41Z">3:48 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7529" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7529" class="commentcontent"><p>Mark does already do this, which is why the branches are named <code>#.#-branch</code>.</p> <p>Anyway, git does assume you wanted the branch instead of the tag, but that’s almost always the case for me anyway. I almost never checkout the tags, and I don’t think anyone else does either (definitely not with SVN either). In the 5 months or so that I’ve had my mirror running, this has never gotten in my way once or annoyed me in any way.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7530" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:58:45Z">3:58 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7530" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7530" class="commentcontent"><p>One other issue that’s really minor is that there’s still an <code>iis</code> branch in SVN that didn’t make it into your mirror that probably should.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7481" class="comment byuser comment-author-sourceforge even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3094298ee1d4ce597e3b5319436e3e99?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> sourceforge <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T05:12:01Z">5:12 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7481" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7481" class="commentcontent"><p>it would be good, i have been asking /systems guys to install git as revision control, but it seemed only someone in some driver’s seat could ask for stuff there! git is fast, no problem if it breaks for a while! thanks for this! full ahead flank <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7491" class="comment byuser comment-author-ozh odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/33ae983c72db97d93df45a6290d3f436?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ozh/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ozh</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T06:54:20Z">6:54 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7491" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7491" class="commentcontent"><p>I think it’s possible to modify afterwards the author of each commit, so you don’t break the whole history<br/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://gist.github.com/4032945" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/4032945</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7497" class="comment byuser comment-author-rmccue even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c57c8945079831fa3c19caef02e44614?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/rmccue/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan McCue</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T07:42:32Z">7:42 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7497" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7497" class="commentcontent"><p>That will change the commit hashes, since the author/committer is stored as part of the commit object (which is used to create the hashes). There’s no way (by design) to change these after the fact without doing this.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7498" class="comment byuser comment-author-rmccue odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c57c8945079831fa3c19caef02e44614?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/rmccue/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan McCue</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T07:44:24Z">7:44 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7498" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7498" class="commentcontent"><p>(Also, forgot to note: even if this only changed one commit, this would cascade down through all subsequent commits, since the parent’s hash is also included in the commit object)</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7492" class="comment byuser comment-author-aristath even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/18a8f65a014d3038d08fc424fc5f3110?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> aristath <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T06:57:44Z">6:57 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7492" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7492" class="commentcontent"><p>I think it would be a great step forward. Drupal also used to be in SVN and switched to Git a couple of years ago. It was entitled “the great git migration” and took almost a year to design, layout and implement the whole process but it was worth it. Using Git has many advantages! I believe that breaking the history is worth it in the long run.<br/> Sure it might be a bit inconvenient at first, but I believe that it could really give a new boost to WordPress development.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7493" class="comment byuser comment-author-aristath odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/18a8f65a014d3038d08fc424fc5f3110?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> aristath <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T06:59:30Z">6:59 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7493" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7493" class="commentcontent"><p>correction… Drupal used to be CVS, not SVN. But the principal is the same… <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7500" class="comment byuser comment-author-rmccue even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c57c8945079831fa3c19caef02e44614?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/rmccue/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ryan McCue</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T09:24:25Z">9:24 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7500" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7500" class="commentcontent"><p>To clarify: this isn’t about moving WordPress to Git, this is about fixing up the Git mirror of the SVN repo. This is a step we’d need to take if it was decided to move WP to Git, but it’s not the main goal.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7494" class="comment byuser comment-author-defries odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/52937c49a07a149c55de968df9c4ffd3?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.forsitemedia.nl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Remkus de Vries</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T07:28:59Z">7:28 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7494" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7494" class="commentcontent"><p>Git ‘er done I say. Having to do a rebase / clone is no biggy at this stage.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7499" class="comment byuser comment-author-banago even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/48ec092dc75e2ef815d74b21b154cc25?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.wplancer.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Baki Goxhaj</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T08:59:22Z">8:59 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7499" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7499" class="commentcontent"><p>Re-cloning WordPress is not a big deal and adding appropriate author information is the way to go toward the future, thus I think it should be done — the sooner the better.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7501" class="comment byuser comment-author-tareq1988 odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8584491809f902b86fae495a5830be83?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://tareq.wedevs.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tareq Hasan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T09:33:24Z">9:33 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7501" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7501" class="commentcontent"><p>Surely go for it. A step towards SVN to Git.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7507" class="comment byuser comment-author-abhishek_ghosh even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/239bcd536688d9c76652332fccef8e16?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Abhishek Ghosh <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T10:58:15Z">10:58 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7507" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7507" class="commentcontent"><p>Git is always a better option but needs carefulness on individual basis. Many options for an user is to download. The developer is getting the option to create a better documentation or guide. Cloning is not really difficult.<br/> There are basic problems too, a good guide is needed for increasing awareness.<br/> As practically we are not shifting, there is time.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7511" class="comment byuser comment-author-markauk odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/57ece50405c541821fd129f2e1fc9443?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markauk/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Rowatt Anderson</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T12:06:29Z">12:06 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7511" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7511" class="commentcontent"><p>Two thumbs up – go for it!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7513" class="comment byuser comment-author-cais even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f9bb98e439bf7efdf51993e1e70957ae?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/cais/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Edward Caissie</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T13:26:51Z">1:26 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7513" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7513" class="commentcontent"><p>It reads like a lot of great points above … and I am all for them, too. Any rebase / clone issues would be far outweighed by the eventual benefits this will bring.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7514" class="comment byuser comment-author-sabreuse odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0b59d8f1c9c189ad2f3b3e25746aee1a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://amyhendrix.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Amy Hendrix (sabreuse)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T13:31:02Z">1:31 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7514" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7514" class="commentcontent"><p>+1 It’s really not a big deal to rebase now compared to not having a good history sometime later.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7516" class="comment byuser comment-author-willmot even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7f86be6d7ff0a450b95eff8f7fcd3cef?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://hmn.md/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tom Willmot</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T14:16:28Z">2:16 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7516" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7516" class="commentcontent"><p>+1 Do it. We run everything with WordPress as submodule, would not be hard to re-clone.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7517" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaronholbrook odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2463a52746cb1a7914ff27ebeb0da86b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://aaronjholbrook.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">aaronholbrook</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T14:30:58Z">2:30 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7517" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7517" class="commentcontent"><p>+1, anything that would move us closer to using Git would be fantastic. Also not a big deal to re-clone if needed.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7520" class="comment byuser comment-author-chrisbliss18 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/db89251262eb3ac6858242d2e0a2027e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/chrisbliss18/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chris Jean</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:00:44Z">3:00 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7520" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7520" class="commentcontent"><p>Sounds like a bandaid that needs to be ripped off. Better now than later when even more people use it.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7522" class="comment byuser comment-author-mojowill odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b17afebed7d20724f2a79e7de70ddf44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mojowill.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">mojowill</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:04:42Z">3:04 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7522" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7522" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d love to see a full move to GIT for everything on wporg!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7533" class="comment byuser comment-author-samparsons even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3eb07f2a10a2b79f45a1631ed8103dd6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://sjparsons.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Sam Parsons</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T22:45:11Z">10:45 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7533" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7533" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m all for the update in order to improve the history and prepare for a possible move to git. I’m wondering whether you plan to send a little message (could it be automated?) to all those who have forked the repo on github? </p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress/network/members" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress/network/members</a></p> <p>That would be hugely helpful in communicating the upcoming changes in case those people don’t read this blog (perish the thought).</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7539" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-11T06:47:33Z">6:47 am <em>on</em> January 11, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7539" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7539" class="commentcontent"><p>GitHub removed their private messaging feature, so I’d have no automated way of notifying everyone. This doesn’t concern me so much as we don’t accept pull requests on GitHub, so it’s not like their forks are functional in that way. I also think a lot of people fork repos and never update it from the upstream again. So they probably wouldn’t notice. And it’s easy enough to destroy it and refork it.</p> <p>What I <strong>was</strong> considering doing was putting a note on our project description on GitHub, for the next few months, providing a link to a post that explained what happened and how to resolve the divergent Git history.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7540" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-11T06:51:11Z">6:51 am <em>on</em> January 11, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7540" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7540" class="commentcontent"><p>As the response was overwhelmingly positive (even from some of you who are traditionally serial devil’s advocates), I think we’re going to move forward with this. Thanks, all, for your feedback.</p> <p>What I’ll likely do it consult with various people (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/bpetty/" class="mention">@bpetty</a>, notably) about implementation, doublecheck the e-mail address in my authors.txt file (recommending that everyone use addresses at personal domains that they’re likely to control indefinitely), and then push out a WordPress-Fixup repo for people to audit, before pushing the new history to the WordPress repo.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7543" class="comment byuser comment-author-bpetty odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/415ca13a64467c42afeade59eaeda463?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Bryan Petty <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-11T19:02:58Z">7:02 pm <em>on</em> January 11, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/#comment-7543" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7543" class="commentcontent"><p>Confirming email addresses used would definitely be a good idea. I think a large portion of what you have now originally came from my list, which was meticulously put together from scouring plugin readmes, wp-hackers archives, and personal sites for publicly visible addresses since, at the time, I knew I wouldn’t be able to simply pull them from WP.org accounts used to make the commits (which would likely be the best source, aside from contacting everyone individually).</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <div class="respond-wrap" style="display: none; "> <div id="respond"> <h3 id="reply-title">Reply <small><a rel="nofollow" id="cancel-comment-reply-link" href="/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/#respond" style="display:none;">Cancel reply</a></small></h3> <p class="must-log-in">You must be <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2Fgit-mirror-history-breakage%2F">logged in</a> to post a comment.</p> </div> </div></li> <li id="prologue-2729" class="post-2729 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:04:45Z">9:04 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2729" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/">WordPress 3.6: Distraction-Free Writing improvements </a></h2><p>Distraction-Free Writing (DFW) made its debut in WordPress 3.2. It’s good, but it has some problems:</p> <ul> <li><span style="line-height: 13px">It’s hard to discover. A tiny button that doesn’t stand out from other buttons.</span></li> <li>The transition is a bit jarring. Your content goes away, you land on another screen, and your content reappears. It feels like there is a cost to switching.</li> <li>It isn’t as fully-featured as it should be. If it isn’t capable of easily (and by that I, I mean without keyboard shortcuts) doing the majority of the formatting people need to do while writing, people are going to be disinclined to use it.</li> <li>It could use some polish. Some of the interactions are janky, and it’s not very responsive to large screens. There are strange issues that happen when you get to the end of a line or do a line break near the bottom of the editor. The Esc key doesn’t work when in TinyMCE. Lots of little stuff like that.</li> </ul> <p>What I need is someone with CSS skills and JS competency to take on a bunch of little improvement projects for DFW. If you have those skills and care about making a beautiful and functional distraction-free writing experience for WordPress, speak up!</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dd2a707274b17609b80205a5f236f7e3?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.miqrogroove.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robert Chapin (miqrogroove)</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/436de2182b7b47d9cbbe132a6ef8f705?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://thematosoup.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Slobodan Manic</a>, and 11 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2729" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7414" class="comment byuser comment-author-chriswallace even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/382f2e673d551079e750e24a25df475a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://upthemes.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chris Wallace</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:08:43Z">9:08 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7414" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7414" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d like to help if you need me to.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7415" class="comment byuser comment-author-theandystratton odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6c55497dcc7aaa04244b0533f7ebff83?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://theandystratton.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Andy Stratton</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:08:48Z">9:08 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7415" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7415" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m interested and would like to get an idea of the list fo things to be done (CSS/JS). I’ll probably try to get @bmoredrew to help me too – anything we have competency and time to do I’m interested.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7421" class="comment byuser comment-author-bmoredrew even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/968f85e965600b3245c50084f24cf40d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.iheartargyle.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">bmoredrew</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:31:28Z">9:31 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7421" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7421" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m down!</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7416" class="comment byuser comment-author-jblz odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d30bee96f3769826fca389e15d81c51d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Jeff Bowen <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:11:08Z">9:11 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7416" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7416" class="commentcontent"><p>I don’t have the bandwidth to lead this, but I’d love to pitch in</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7417" class="comment byuser comment-author-ckhicks even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2dbbcf5bf5af5b6e970f518f3e2755ee?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://ckhicks.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">ckhicks</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:11:39Z">9:11 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7417" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7417" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d be happy to help explore current/popular trends in DFW environments and provide research, if needed. This is one of my favorite WP 3+ features, and it is prime real estate for greatness!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7418" class="comment byuser comment-author-ericmann odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/46093583d8895095adb1b0071c505af2?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ericmann/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eric Mann</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:16:04Z">9:16 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7418" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7418" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d love to help, though it would be useful if we had a concise list of all of the “janky” interactions so we know what we’re committing to.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7419" class="comment byuser comment-author-thezman84 even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/bfb4833e40676616e28300a0b9f55d35?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.redclayinteractive.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Zach "The Z Man" Abernathy</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:17:13Z">9:17 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7419" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7419" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m on board to help with this. And I agree with Eric Mann. A playbook on what we’re committing to would be great.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7424" class="comment byuser comment-author-melchoyce odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2dc245d4cf9e5579dfb0e13e7dcb75db?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://choycedesign.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mel Choyce</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:49:40Z">9:49 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7424" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7424" class="commentcontent"><p>Not a terrible amount of js competency, but I’ve got css skills and would like to help out with this.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7465" class="comment byuser comment-author-slobodanmanic even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/436de2182b7b47d9cbbe132a6ef8f705?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://thematosoup.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Slobodan Manic</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T19:56:22Z">7:56 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7465" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7465" class="commentcontent"><p>Similar skillset and would love to help with this one.</p> <p>There was probably talk about it already, but would moving full-screen button away from other buttons make sense? Perhaps next to Visual/Text tabs? Those two change the editor, so does full screen toggle.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7427" class="comment byuser comment-author-theaccordance odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eae0285507eae1cc06be0e7c9887c1e6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.theaccordance.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">theaccordance</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T22:01:00Z">10:01 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7427" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7427" class="commentcontent"><p>I completely agree with your assessment. The moment I found that the DFW toolbar lacked the ability to select headings I walked away from the Distraction-Free view; this is certainly something I’d like to see an improvement with.</p> <p>I just reviewed the full-screen views for a few apps on my Mac (which provide a similar experience to DF view), and with the exception of the top toolbar, the visual interactions remain fairly consistent. Would it be appropriate to approach the DF view in a similar fashion? </p> <p>Also, should consideration be given in DFW for additional functionality added to the normal TinyMCE via plugins? </p> <p>(Apologies if I should be bringing these questions up in a different location, I’m new and still getting acquainted with working on the core.)</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7429" class="comment byuser comment-author-adamsilverstein even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/08001a0a424aed1382375a446ed690d6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://earthbound.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">adamsilverstein</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T22:18:00Z">10:18 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7429" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7429" class="commentcontent"><p>i’m in.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7435" class="comment byuser comment-author-johnbillion odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/23e12888dcd87d07434b7621bc164958?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/johnbillion/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Blackbourn (johnbillion)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T03:37:05Z">3:37 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7435" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7435" class="commentcontent"><p>Related: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/22185" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/22185</a></p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7469" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T03:48:40Z">3:48 am <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7469" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7469" class="commentcontent"><p>As we have a lot of people willing to help, but none willing and confident to lead, and as this seems to be the least-well-defined of the features on the docket, it has been dropped as a scheduled feature and will instead be handled as the grab-bag of improvements that it is. I’ll work on getting it broken out into individual tasks and anyone interested should keep an eye out for “DFW” on Trac.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7555" class="comment byuser comment-author-miqrogroove odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dd2a707274b17609b80205a5f236f7e3?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.miqrogroove.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robert Chapin (miqrogroove)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-14T19:56:55Z">7:56 pm <em>on</em> January 14, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements/#comment-7555" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-distraction-free-writing-improvements%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7555" class="commentcontent"><p>Hi Mark, a less prominent yet important disadvantage of DFW is the lack of cross platform compatibility. iPad and other device support ahould be considered.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2726" class="post-2726 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. 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Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:07:35Z">1:07 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2726" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/">WordPress 3.6: Menus </a></h2><p>For menus we’re going to try to focus on some UI improvements. Menus work pretty well but users, especially the less-technical ones, are easily confused. We’ve seen them try to add menus without names because they see the “Create Menu” button before they see the menu name field, we’ve seen them add a bunch of menus instead of menu items because they’re unclear on the difference, etc, etc. The goal for the 3.6 cycle is to make menus a little more intuitive and user friendly.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/markjaquith/" class="mention">@markjaquith</a> and I are excited to have @lessbloat leading this. Take a look at all the user testing that has already been happening over at<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23119"> #23119</a> and make sure you comment here if you’re interested in helping out!</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/08001a0a424aed1382375a446ed690d6?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://earthbound.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">adamsilverstein</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/458b37ba33d7090dbd753fdb963ef742?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.dirk-weise.de/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">wedi</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f99f27294a4a0acb07caa4d0604a1fef?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.compass-design.co.uk/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">rachel_mccollin</a>, and 15 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2726" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7357" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:08:58Z">1:08 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7357" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7357" class="commentcontent"><p>On a personal note, I’d love to see<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16075"> #16075</a> addressed if there’s time.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7369" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T02:58:06Z">2:58 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7369" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7369" class="commentcontent"><p>I fully support this.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7372" class="comment byuser comment-author-drewapicture even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/95c934fa2c3362794bf62ff8c59ada08?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.werdswords.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Drew Jaynes (DrewAPicture)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T03:45:57Z">3:45 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7372" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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Bordoni</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T17:23:37Z">5:23 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7411" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7411" class="commentcontent"><p>This would be awsome.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7459" class="comment byuser comment-author-wedi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/458b37ba33d7090dbd753fdb963ef742?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.dirk-weise.de/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">wedi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T18:59:48Z">6:59 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7459" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7459" class="commentcontent"><p>+100 oh yes please! It’s time to get rid of all these ugly workarounds!</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7358" class="comment byuser comment-author-jkudish even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8fac9a834778de5a3b7b26fb28cff956?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/jkudish/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Joey Kudish</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:10:00Z">1:10 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7358" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7358" class="commentcontent"><p>In last week’s meeting, we discussed some improvement to the nav menu saving code as well. If that’s still on the roadmap, I’d like to help there.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7359" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:13:04Z">1:13 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7359" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7359" class="commentcontent"><p>I don’t specifically remember talking about saving. I know we discussed sluggishness with lots of items, and I know we discussed needing a complete back-end rewrite, but I think we decided both of those were outside the scope for 3.6.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7360" class="comment byuser comment-author-jkudish even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8fac9a834778de5a3b7b26fb28cff956?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/jkudish/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Joey Kudish</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:13:53Z">1:13 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7360" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7360" class="commentcontent"><p>Gotcha, thanks for clarifying</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7361" class="comment byuser comment-author-f-j-kaiser odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b633452832ed5613b18a4432b0149ae9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> F J Kaiser <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:45:37Z">1:45 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7361" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7361" class="commentcontent"><p>For those who’re writing the patches and participating on the ticket, the [wp-nav-menu] tag archive over at WordPressStackExchange might be of interest. The views & votes are a good indicator for what devs & users are interested in and what they might need/how they see those tings.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/menus?sort=votes&pagesize=50" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/menus?sort=votes&pagesize=50</a></p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7364" class="comment byuser comment-author-webord even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e1810347f20cf8e428ad2df4aebb409d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/webord/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gustavo Bordoni</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:55:35Z">1:55 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7364" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7364" class="commentcontent"><p>Hey Aaron, I was thinking these days, developers should have I way to put fields, or even HTML on the Menu Configuration panel. I could not find a filter or a action to to it.</p> <p>If menus, is on the aim for 3.6, I would like to try to implement an API to do it, just like the Widgets one.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7370" class="comment byuser comment-author-mjgarvi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/39565f5192e25905e86d4adfd395564e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/mjgarvi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Matthew</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T03:05:14Z">3:05 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7370" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7370" class="commentcontent"><p>This sounds like a fabulous idea.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7371" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T03:11:15Z">3:11 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7371" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7371" class="commentcontent"><p>What exactly do you mean when you say fields or even HTML? Do you mean adding post meta support for menus?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7379" class="comment byuser comment-author-webord odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e1810347f20cf8e428ad2df4aebb409d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/webord/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gustavo Bordoni</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T07:07:45Z">7:07 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7379" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7379" class="commentcontent"><p>Yes, just missed the word at the time. I feel like this would be useful for more complex menus.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7460" class="comment byuser comment-author-wedi even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/458b37ba33d7090dbd753fdb963ef742?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.dirk-weise.de/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">wedi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T19:02:31Z">7:02 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7460" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7460" class="commentcontent"><p>Yeah!. You could add a search or login form for example.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7367" class="comment byuser comment-author-drewapicture odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/95c934fa2c3362794bf62ff8c59ada08?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.werdswords.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Drew Jaynes (DrewAPicture)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T02:49:08Z">2:49 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7367" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7367" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m very interested in contributing to this nav-menus refresh. We had great results user-testing the new color picker in 3.5 and I have high hopes for what we can come up with for nav-menus in 3.6.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7382" class="comment byuser comment-author-mbcreation even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/15b7511487684ba0eac05b67e71a0e07?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mbcreation.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">MB Creation</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T08:24:00Z">8:24 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7382" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7382" class="commentcontent"><p>Hi. I’m sorry if this is not relevant but recently an offline page was still available in a menu. Don’t you think it should disappear from it ? (at least in the front-end ?). I Agree with gustavo about the idea of an API !</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7389" class="comment byuser comment-author-keoshi odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/eac8e3135a186cb2176120c2ed71e644?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> keoshi <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T11:53:41Z">11:53 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7389" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7389" class="commentcontent"><p>Would love to help with this, I think it’s one area where we could use major UX improvements.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7390" class="comment byuser comment-author-grahamarmfield even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9a0144538f841e53a121a00a1fe4c669?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.coolfields.co.uk/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">GrahamArmfield</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T12:37:57Z">12:37 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7390" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7390" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m pleased to hear that the menu builder is likely to get a refresh. When that is being done, please can we make a menu builder that is keyboard accessible too – the current one is impossible or very difficult for anyone with disabilities/impairments to use. See <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21289" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21289</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7443" class="comment byuser comment-author-rachel_mccollin odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f99f27294a4a0acb07caa4d0604a1fef?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.compass-design.co.uk/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">rachel_mccollin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T11:56:38Z">11:56 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7443" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7443" class="commentcontent"><p>+1 to that.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7391" class="comment byuser comment-author-rfair404 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ca76996734fd501d0608fad0fec9bea5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://q21.co/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">rfair404</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T13:15:19Z">1:15 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7391" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7391" class="commentcontent"><p>Aaron, this is good news. I’ll help out on<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16075"> #16075</a></p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7401" class="comment byuser comment-author-hereswhatidid odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/160913a0c7f80a34538d003ca7a0daac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://hereswhatidid.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">hereswhatidid</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T15:03:50Z">3:03 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7401" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7401" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d love to see it move away from the tabbed-style navigation and just use the underlying drop down menu for choosing which menu to edit. I’ve had far too many clients name a menu something like “Drop Down Menu for Home Page” which then pushes every other tab off the visible area. Also, managing any more than 4-5 menus is very painful as you constantly have to click the right and left arrows just to be able to select which menu to edit. I would love to help out if needed as I’ve already modified it to use the existing drop down menu on several sites.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7428" class="comment byuser comment-author-mzak even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c45cebb11f6a878403cc22cf30a4dcd8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> mzak <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T22:09:06Z">10:09 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7428" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7428" class="commentcontent"><p>I second this suggestion.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7438" class="comment byuser comment-author-rianrietveld odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/54b6a8a47f9d6f1a93f33be5909c59a5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.rrwd.nl/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Rian Rietveld</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T08:15:53Z">8:15 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7438" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7438" class="commentcontent"><p>+1 for GrahamArmfield :”please can we make a menu builder that is keyboard accessible too” and hereswhatidid “just use the underlying drop down menu for choosing which menu to edit”.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7526" class="comment byuser comment-author-adamsilverstein even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/08001a0a424aed1382375a446ed690d6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://earthbound.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">adamsilverstein</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:40:40Z">3:40 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/08/wordpress-3-6-menus/#comment-7526" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fwordpress-3-6-menus%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7526" class="commentcontent"><p>i’d love to help out with testing/bug fixing. i have several clients managing huge & multiple menus, interested in improving reliability of interface and usability over slower connections; finally accessibility is an issue i’d love to see improved.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2721" class="post-2721 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. Campbell ( @aaroncampbell )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. Campbell ( @aaroncampbell )">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:21:30Z">11:21 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2721" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/">WordPress 3.6: Revisions </a></h2><p>Revisions are an extremely powerful tool for content tracking, but there are a few parts that need a little TLC. Ever since they were first introduced, there’s been a problem with proper author attribution on revisions (see<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16215"> #16215</a>), and we’re going to take a crack at fixing that in 3.6. Additionally, while the current diffs are pretty cool, and make a lot of sense to those of us that look at diffs everyday, there’s a lot of room for improvement for your average user. We’d like to see some UI improvements around the diffs as well as information that makes more sense to an average content creator (words changed, a visual representation of what was added/removed, prettier output, etc).</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/markjaquith/" class="mention">@markjaquith</a> and I chose <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/westi/" class="mention">@westi</a> to lead this. I’m excited to see the improvements on this one! There’s a little of everything in this project, so please leave a comment if you’re interested in lending a hand.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f5e789b2b75c42b109dab265927045ff?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.talgalili.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">talgalili</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3eb07f2a10a2b79f45a1631ed8103dd6?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://sjparsons.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Sam Parsons</a>, and 16 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2721" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7342" class="comment byuser comment-author-viper007bond even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7da5bead8e47f9b9142a4bdd05975bac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.viper007bond.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Alex Mills (Viper007Bond)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:25:52Z">11:25 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7342" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7342" class="commentcontent"><p>It’d be nice to have revisions also include post meta and taxonomy data so that when restoring to a previous revision, the whole post’s state could be restored.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7346" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:35:30Z">11:35 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7346" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7346" class="commentcontent"><p>We actually categorized that under the Edit Flow feature, but there’s definite overlap there. see:<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20299"> #20299</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7347" class="comment byuser comment-author-viper007bond even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7da5bead8e47f9b9142a4bdd05975bac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.viper007bond.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Alex Mills (Viper007Bond)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:36:28Z">11:36 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7347" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7347" class="commentcontent"><p>Nice, thanks.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7402" class="comment byuser comment-author-chrisscott odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e4c892e10b6e0859fea3e1a69c0e6835?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://iamzed.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chris Scott</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:01:02Z">4:01 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7402" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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rel="external nofollow" class="url">adamsilverstein</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:28:14Z">11:28 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7343" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7343" class="commentcontent"><p>i’d love to help with this.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7384" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T09:35:09Z">9:35 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7384" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7384" class="commentcontent"><p>Great</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7344" class="comment byuser comment-author-rafaehlers even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/04747e8f330f6671013caaa0abf7ee5d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.rafaelehlers.com.br/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Rafael Ehlers</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:31:08Z">11:31 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7344" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:40:46Z">11:40 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7348" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7348" class="commentcontent"><p>What doesn’t work about that?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7362" class="comment byuser comment-author-rafaehlers even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/04747e8f330f6671013caaa0abf7ee5d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.rafaelehlers.com.br/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Rafael Ehlers</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:47:33Z">1:47 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7362" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7362" class="commentcontent"><p>It doesnt disable at all</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7365" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:57:08Z">1:57 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7365" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7365" class="commentcontent"><p>I just tested on a local install and it worked as expected (turned off).</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7345" class="comment byuser comment-author-karmatosed even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d36d2c1821af9249b69ff7f5ed60529b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.logicalbinary.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">karmatosed</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:32:00Z">11:32 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7345" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7345" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d love to help from a UI angle on this.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7385" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T09:35:41Z">9:35 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7385" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.logicalbinary.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">karmatosed</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:55:26Z">9:55 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7425" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7425" class="commentcontent"><p>Yay <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7350" class="comment byuser comment-author-ethitter odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fcf17d516139b240f405706d6fc8fc10?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ethitter/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Erick Hitter</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:58:03Z">11:58 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7350" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7363" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7363" class="commentcontent"><p>A suggestion. Can revisions be stored like only save one revision a day per post? Most of the time I would want to restore a revision I already overridden the nr I’ve set on that day. So I can’t go back to yesterday.</p> <p>Maybe save all revisions of this day and 1 for every day that is defined in `WP_POST_REVISIONS`.<br/> Just a suggestion.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7386" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T09:38:56Z">9:38 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7386" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7386" class="commentcontent"><p>This sounds like an interesting idea. I think our primary drive will be around the presentation and making it much more user friendly.</p> <p>It may be that we can alter the presentation to provide a less verbose history by default with only one revision per day highlighted while keeping the full history as well – the full history is really useful in the context of one of the key theme of 3.6 – never lose your content.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7407" class="comment byuser comment-author-cgrymala odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7a97aab44a47c3008b22db2513b6b37d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://ten-321.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Curtiss Grymala</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:22:10Z">4:22 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7407" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7407" class="commentcontent"><p>While I think this is an interesting idea, I think it might be just as helpful (more helpful in my use-cases) if revisions were actually systematically compared at some point, and identical revisions were either dumped or not highlighted.</p> <p>For instance, let’s say I go in to look at a post (for instance, to copy a shortcode I used in it, etc.) and then, out of habit, click “Update”. Although I didn’t change anything in the post, WP stores a separate revision for that update, and shows that in the list of revisions. It would be nice if WP was able to compare that version to the previous version, recognize that nothing changed, and downgrade that revision somehow.</p> <p>I think, either way, we would need to look at somehow classifying revisions (possibly with a +1 or -1) to differentiate between revisions that should be highlighted (for reversion purposes) and those that are just stored for record-keeping (basically just to know when someone accessed the edit page for that post).</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7461" class="comment byuser comment-author-wedi even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/458b37ba33d7090dbd753fdb963ef742?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> wedi <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T19:17:35Z">7:17 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7461" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7461" class="commentcontent"><p>That is really a big point. It’s quite annoying to click through several revisions to find the last real change.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7399" class="comment byuser comment-author-esmi odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0d9561ad86e233e23263cbbeaeb418cc?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Esmi" rel="external nofollow" class="url">esmi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T14:53:46Z">2:53 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7399" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7399" class="commentcontent"><p>Can some of the accessibility issues associated with revisions also receive some attention? Specifically, the Compare Revisions table. </p> <p>1. As this is a form, each of the radio buttons needs an associated label. By all means, position the label offscreen if you must but without those labels, the form is virtually impossible to use in some situations.</p> <p>2. Can we have unique text for each of the Restore links? Again, position the unique fragment offscreen if necessary but handful of identical-sounding links creates major problems for some users.</p> <p>3. Ideally, get rid of the table markup. Forms + tables = accessibility problems for many users.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7440" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T10:55:50Z">10:55 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7440" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7440" class="commentcontent"><blockquote><p>Can some of the accessibility issues associated with revisions also receive some attention?</p></blockquote> <p>We will definitely look at the issues you have highlighted and see how we can best address them.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7420" class="comment byuser comment-author-lessbloat odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4c5da16f1f65bd9824bc30cb1cc62e8f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> lessbloat <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:27:07Z">9:27 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7420" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7420" class="commentcontent"><p>Thought I’d play with some visual indicators showing whats changed between diffs, so at a glance you can see: “Oh ya, this is the one where I just removed on line”, or “this is the one where I removed 5 paragraphs”.</p> <p><strong>Option 1</strong></p> <p><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/0Q0j2J0a3N1Z393f110u/revisions-diff.jpg"/></p> <p><strong>Option 2</strong></p> <p><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/0T0f1n2y1R1L3M3l2S13/revision-diff-2.jpg"/></p> <p><strong>Option 3</strong></p> <p><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/1d2L3p3j2n1p1W200h3U/revision-diff-3.jpg"/></p> <p><strong>Option 4</strong></p> <p><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://f.cl.ly/items/0V2P141x0a3n0Y3I2T1D/revision-diff-4.jpg"/></p> <p>Hat tip to MarkJaquith for the concept.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7422" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:33:38Z">9:33 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7422" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7422" class="commentcontent"><p>I really like it. Personally I think the bars are more user-friendly than the raw numbers, but I don’t have much preference between those three.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7426" class="comment byuser comment-author-karmatosed odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d36d2c1821af9249b69ff7f5ed60529b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.logicalbinary.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">karmatosed</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T21:58:25Z">9:58 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7426" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7426" class="commentcontent"><p>I like the bar dots the most but my worry about any graphical indicator like that is a ‘what does it mean’. 3 red dots to me or a lump of a bar isn’t as instantly recognisable maybe to all users. I guess my question would be: “Is it important to know what of what”? If that’s the case then a number is far more indication. If a vague idea is all that’s needed then exacts aren’t as required.</p> <p>Worth exploring around other ways of representing I think aside from ones that require more maybe guess work as to what % of what?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7439" class="comment byuser comment-author-grahamarmfield even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9a0144538f841e53a121a00a1fe4c669?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.coolfields.co.uk/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">GrahamArmfield</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T10:10:27Z">10:10 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7439" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7439" class="commentcontent"><p>As a sighted person a visual representation can sum up a concept neatly. Unfortunately not everyone is sighted or has clear sight. Using colour as the only way to convey meaning can also be problematic – especially in your choice of red/green. Some 8% of men and 2% of women are colourblind – with red/green colourblindness being the most common.</p> <p>Any solution like this needs to also include plain visible text to indicate what the bars mean. I’d especially echo karmatosed’s point – will even all sighted users understand what’s being represented here. And how would the dots/lines represent removing some characters and adding some different ones?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7441" class="comment byuser comment-author-westi odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b3b5ce04dd402124aba53142b3e47f6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T10:57:58Z">10:57 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7441" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7441" class="commentcontent"><p>These are neat and address a piece of the UI that I hadn’t even considered improving yet <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> <p>If we don’t focus on trying to condense the visualisation of the whole diff down into some coloured fragments are there ways in which we can highlight if the diff is a large or small change well?</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7462" class="comment byuser comment-author-wedi even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/458b37ba33d7090dbd753fdb963ef742?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> wedi <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T19:18:45Z">7:18 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7462" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7462" class="commentcontent"><p>That is great! An indication if the content or just meta data was edited would be very useful, too.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7464" class="comment byuser comment-author-arielk-1 odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8d9644549f9462ff7529f05d22a3686f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> ArielK <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T19:48:28Z">7:48 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7464" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7464" class="commentcontent"><p>I like “option 1″ it’s very clear & simple.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7536" class="comment byuser comment-author-samparsons even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3eb07f2a10a2b79f45a1631ed8103dd6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://sjparsons.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Sam Parsons</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T23:06:27Z">11:06 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7536" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/westi/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Peter Westwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-11T13:30:41Z">1:30 pm <em>on</em> January 11, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7542" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7542" class="commentcontent"><p>This is quite neat, I wonder if this is too specific though <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> <p>What people probably want to know is things like:</p> <ul> <li>Is this the revisions where I fixed that typo</li> <li>Is this the revision where the editor re-wrote my whole post</li> </ul> <p>It will be interesting if we can present something more like a graduated size of change metric which has more end-user meaning that something very technical like word count – especially when word counting is so hard to get write in some situations like some asian languages.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7442" class="comment byuser comment-author-esmi even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0d9561ad86e233e23263cbbeaeb418cc?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Esmi" rel="external nofollow" class="url">esmi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T11:33:39Z">11:33 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7442" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7442" class="commentcontent"><p>If you’re going with the red/green combination, please consider using numbers – not bars. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://quirm.net/temp/red-green.png" rel="nofollow">http://quirm.net/temp/red-green.png</a> shows the display as it would be seen by those who suffer from 2 out of 3 of the known forms of color blindness. Using numbers would also by-pass any issues for non-sighted users and give everyone a clear indication of the changes made.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7523" class="comment byuser comment-author-raggedrobins odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3a0805f9cfce7d99874b532a283851a5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wordsforwp.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Siobhan</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-10T15:07:56Z">3:07 pm <em>on</em> January 10, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7523" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7523" class="commentcontent"><p>In terms of writing, numbers are much more useful as they provide context. Also, word count is more useful than character count.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7548" class="comment byuser comment-author-talgalili even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f5e789b2b75c42b109dab265927045ff?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.talgalili.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">talgalili</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-12T10:51:59Z">10:51 am <em>on</em> January 12, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/#comment-7548" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-revisions%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7548" class="commentcontent"><p>Hello all,</p> <p>I would like to ask for another feature:<br/> When comparing two revisions, allowing a reviewer to have an “accept/reject” for each section changed (in a similar way as offered by libre-office or MS-word), which at the end of it will create a new revision.</p> <p>Background story for the request: I recently had the need for such a feature, since I have three friends working on the same post, where one is more “senior”. The senior friend wanted to be able to accept/reject changes by the other contributors. Since this was not an option in WP, we decided to do the first draft of the post in word, and exchange it by e-mails.</p> <p>Thank you all for taking on work at this front <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/><br/> Cheers,<br/> Tal</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2716" class="post-2716 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. Campbell ( @aaroncampbell )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. Campbell ( @aaroncampbell )">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:00:21Z">9:00 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2716" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/">WordPress 3.6: Editorial Flow </a></h2><p>I’m really excited to see our editorial flow get some love in the 3.6 cycle! We always want to be as extensible as possible and post statuses are one of those places where we’re not near as good as we should be. The plan goes something like this:</p> <ol> <li>Fully support the existing register_post_status() API in core <ul> <li>Make sure things don’t break when you add your own custom statuses</li> <li>Update the metabox UI to show any newly registered statuses in the drop down, etc.</li> <li>Add a ‘moderation’ flag so that unpublished statuses can be explicitly identified</li> <li>Support for non-standard public post statuses</li> </ul> </li> <li>Enhance the existing API <ul> <li>Add support for registering post statuses to specific post types</li> <li>Allow for caps checks on different post statuses</li> <li>New remove_post_status() function for removing an already-registered post status</li> </ul> </li> <li>Editing workflow for already published content</li> </ol> <p>Additionally, we hope to address some issues around post meta for revisions, which is tightly related to the workflow for already published content.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/markjaquith/" class="mention">@markjaquith</a> and I have chosen Daniel Bachhuber to lead this. If you’re not sure why, just Google <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://www.google.com/search?q=wordpress+edit+flow">WordPress Edit Flow</a> and it’ll all make sense. There’s a lot of heavy-duty under the hood work here, so please leave a comment if you’re interested in lending a hand.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/376fbfa2263820016e66ed01e88b8c2d?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://lucasstark.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">lucasstark</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b633452832ed5613b18a4432b0149ae9?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> F J Kaiser, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0072c6b8c6eaa82c2b8d0b97c68dfb8d?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/wpdavis/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">William P. Davis</a>, and 13 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2716" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7327" class="comment byuser comment-author-mikeschinkel even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/81df87e0d3e269d6fa6a17c6914fd656?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/MikeSchinkel/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schinkel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:08:13Z">9:08 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7327" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7327" class="commentcontent"><p>Been waiting for this for a while…</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7328" class="comment byuser comment-author-conservativeread odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/bbd34a5b3a7396cffc91b73e8ee39fe1?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://conservativeread.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">conservativeread</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:11:45Z">9:11 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7328" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7328" class="commentcontent"><p>i want post tags and related posts to be automatic, i would also like to see more support for posting outside of admin from desktop apps like wlw and the new blogjet.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7329" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:14:20Z">9:14 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7329" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7329" class="commentcontent"><p>Automatic tagging and related posts will both continue to be in plugin territory for now. I know there are some good ones out there, but the usecase is still too small to justify having that functionality in core.</p> <p>As for the desktop apps, WordPress as an XMLRPC API that they can use to post to it (the same one the mobile apps use). I don’t personally use any of those tools, but the capability is definitely there.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7330" class="comment byuser comment-author-jkudish odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8fac9a834778de5a3b7b26fb28cff956?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/jkudish/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Joey Kudish</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:17:07Z">9:17 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7330" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7330" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m interested in helping with this effort!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7337" class="comment byuser comment-author-mamun155 even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/48c06b07f8d46c82013ce541584bba1e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.79mplus.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Md Mahmudur Rahman</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T22:47:01Z">10:47 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7337" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7337" class="commentcontent"><p>This is the ideal time to address some issues pointed out in the below article (WordPress And Government) by @StephenCronin, as we are talking about Editorial Flow for the next release.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://scratch99.com/wordpress/government/use-of-wordpress-in-government/" rel="nofollow">http://scratch99.com/wordpress/government/use-of-wordpress-in-government/</a></p> <p>To be specific (quoted from the article):</p> <p>“Enterprise Level Websites</p> <p>Everyone has a different definition of ‘enterprise level’. It’s probably not sensible to try to tie that definition down. Instead, I’ll describe the sort of website I’m talking about:</p> <p>Anywhere from 3,000 to 10,000 pages (and let’s not talk about PDFs!)<br/> Anywhere from 3 to 7 levels deep: the site I’m currently working on will be 7 levels deep minimum<br/> The majority of content not chronologically based<br/> Several hundred distributed authors, located around the state, spread throughout maybe 60 business areas, each with their own signoff processes.<br/> Centralised editorial quality assurance<br/> Complex workflows:<br/> One piece of content may need to go through 5 levels of approvals<br/> Another may only need to go through 2 levels<br/> There will be different approval steps and different users for different content types and different categories<br/> Example: Content author -> Manager -> Communications -> Web Editor -> Tech QA -> Publish.<br/> Note: It’s not about traffic. We all know WordPress can scale, for example as in the case of WordPress.com. Rather it is about complexity and the ability of WordPress to handle this sort of site out of the box.”</p> <p>Cheers.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7373" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T03:58:16Z">3:58 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7373" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7373" class="commentcontent"><p>So, the workflow and QA things you mention are kind of where this is going. Not building that into core directly, but making it easier for a plugin like Edit Flow to implement custom post statuses and a more complex posting workflow.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7374" class="comment byuser comment-author-mamun155 even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/48c06b07f8d46c82013ce541584bba1e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Md Mahmudur Rahman <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T04:12:28Z">4:12 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7374" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7374" class="commentcontent"><p>I couldn’t agree more.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7403" class="comment byuser comment-author-lightningspirit odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea8b5d5491f71af29e8d8e00dc5a0f5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Vitor Carvalho <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:05:18Z">4:05 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.zaowebdesign.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Justin Sainton</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:12:18Z">11:12 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7339" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7339" class="commentcontent"><p>I know @ryancduff and I would definitely love to help out here.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7341" class="comment byuser comment-author-sc0ttkclark odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7b32d2f615c2495c9f1896cb43a453ae?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/sc0ttkclark/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Scott Kingsley Clark</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:21:11Z">11:21 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7341" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7341" class="commentcontent"><p>Oh very nice, I shall eat cake on this day.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7353" class="comment byuser comment-author-tomthewebmaster even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6c3176588eedf18d895f0af905f61819?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://tomlany.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tom Lany</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T00:32:10Z">12:32 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7353" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" 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January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7355" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7355" class="commentcontent"><p>Looking forward to watching how this pans out! This has been a pain point for larger organisations for a while. </p> <p>Happy to give the perspective of the requirements for a large site (up to 5 levels of approvals, different approval steps / user groups for different content, based on content types, categories, even individual pages, etc), if catering for that sort of site is within scope.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7375" class="comment byuser comment-author-nuggetsol even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/44233e579b893d6b41bbd5fb1dd52203?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> nuggetsol <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T06:16:57Z">6:16 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7375" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7375" class="commentcontent"><p>This would be a really nice addition to the core. I have developed a plugin which aims towards supporting workflow management – <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/oasis-workflow/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/oasis-workflow/</a></p> <p>I have got some good feedback from the users. I am planning to add some new features, but support for custom statuses out of the box would be really wonderful.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7383" class="comment byuser comment-author-kovshenin odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8585b20b69e8ff4b0ba737accfdbb31b?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/kovshenin/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Konstantin Kovshenin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T09:10:53Z">9:10 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7383" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7383" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m willing to contribute as much as it takes to get this done. Can somebody please list the existing tickets? Ones I’m aware of are<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12706"> #12706</a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/15132"> #15132</a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21787"> #21787</a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/7745"> #7745</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7408" class="comment byuser comment-author-lightningspirit even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea8b5d5491f71af29e8d8e00dc5a0f5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Vitor Carvalho <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:22:56Z">4:22 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7408" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7408" class="commentcontent"><p>I would like to contribute to it to. We should be carefull about we deal with post status transitions too.<br/> Related:<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/22241"> #22241</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7410" class="comment byuser comment-author-lightningspirit odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea8b5d5491f71af29e8d8e00dc5a0f5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Vitor Carvalho <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:50:18Z">4:50 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7410" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7410" class="commentcontent"><p>*how we deal</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7404" class="comment byuser comment-author-lightningspirit even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea8b5d5491f71af29e8d8e00dc5a0f5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Vitor Carvalho <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:06:59Z">4:06 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7404" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7404" class="commentcontent"><p>Fantastic idea! That is something I was expecting for some time ago. I will keep in touch with some of that tickets and help where I can.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7447" class="comment byuser comment-author-wpdavis odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0072c6b8c6eaa82c2b8d0b97c68dfb8d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/wpdavis/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">William P. Davis</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T14:11:31Z">2:11 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7447" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7447" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d love to help on this.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7458" class="comment byuser comment-author-f-j-kaiser even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b633452832ed5613b18a4432b0149ae9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> F J Kaiser <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T18:02:48Z">6:02 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7458" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7458" class="commentcontent"><p>One thing where I’d really love to see a solution is about that freaky thing that happens when switching “visibility” from “public” to “private”. When doing so, the “Save as (draft/etc.)” button disappears. It doesn’t come back when switching to “public” anymore. Ticket incl. several patches that cover different scenarios is here <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21563" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21563</a></p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7549" class="comment byuser comment-author-lucasstark odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/376fbfa2263820016e66ed01e88b8c2d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://lucasstark.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">lucasstark</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-12T13:33:48Z">1:33 pm <em>on</em> January 12, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-edit-flow/#comment-7549" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-edit-flow%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7549" class="commentcontent"><p>Any way we can also figure out a way for published content to remain published when a user submits updates for review? One of the trickest things to work around is to allow users without publish rights to submit updates to content with out taking that content offline. Seems like we could serve up the last published revision, assuming we have all metadata and taxonomy selection attached to the revision, rather than taking the main page off line. Right now I’m using a customized version of Boston Universities Versions Plugin, which does an OK job, but would be nice if this was built into core. </p> <p>The way it works now is “ok” for posts and news style items, but really seems to break down when dealing with pages.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2711" class="post-2711 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:42:29Z">7:42 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2711" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/">WordPress 3.6: Autosave and Post Locking </a></h2><p>I want, as a major 3.6 bullet point, that we should never lose posts due to expired cookies, loss of connection, inadvertent navigation (even if AYS’d), plugin or core errors on save, browser crashes, OS crashes, cats walking on keyboards, children drooling in keyboards, etc. I want people to trust WordPress with their posts. They should never fear that something they’ve spent time creating or editing should go away due to their mistake or ours or that of a third party. Mistakes and errors should be recoverable. I can’t stress enough how important it is that people believe this and have good reason to believe it. If a post gets lost, there is a catastrophic loss of trust, that could take years to be regained (if indeed it ever is). This is people’s time and their creative output we’re talking about. If we’re not valuing those things above all else, then our priorities are seriously out of order. This is an all-hands-on-deck item for 3.6. Even if you’re not actively working on the code or the copy or the UI or the UX I want you to be thinking about ways in which WordPress could better treat your creative output as the valuable artifact it is.</p> <p>Things this will likely involve:</p> <ul> <li>Local storage of post data while editing, in-between autosaves and manual saves.</li> <li>More frequent “heartbeat” pings to the server (allowing data to hitch a ride at certain intervals, and also allowing us to quickly deliver messages back from the server about events).</li> <li>Real and more granular post locking. Right now we just have a wimpy notice that isn’t a good deterrent against people simultaneously editing a post and overwriting each other’s changes.</li> <li>Probably some interaction with the team working on improving Post Revisions.</li> <li>UX work for making recovery from failure scenarios smooth, clear, and worry-free.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/aaroncampbell/" class="mention">@aaroncampbell</a> and I have chosen <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/azaozz/" class="mention">@azaozz</a> to lead this, as it will probably be very JavaScript-heavy. There are a lot of moving parts here, so please leave a comment if you’re interested in this important, heroic, virtuous endeavor. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3ae8ccfad8ccf8eb113695bdf63b5fca?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mbijon.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Bijon</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/33de789aa3fc0dc60bdc4b7df3a9b0c3?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://gabrielkoen.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gabriel Koen</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d409f7e3d0b43dd41dcfbd58aa255601?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/technosailor/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron Brazell</a>, and 15 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2711" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7312" class="comment byuser comment-author-mikeschinkel even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/81df87e0d3e269d6fa6a17c6914fd656?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/MikeSchinkel/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schinkel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:43:57Z">7:43 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7312" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7312" class="commentcontent"><p>+1!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7314" class="comment byuser comment-author-jb510 odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f1c8858594659f20b4e99d65d0855f7c?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/jb510/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jon Brown</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:46:54Z">7:46 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7314" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7314" class="commentcontent"><p>+1 – May I suggest that versioning and autosaving of metadata be included in this push. I’ve seen several people become reliant on the revisions and auto-save of the content (yay, they trust it!) and then be disappointed to discover their excerpt or content in a metabox isn’t given the same treatment.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7317" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith bypostauthor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:55:57Z">7:55 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7317" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7317" class="commentcontent"><p>There’s at least one ticket that touches on that <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20299" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20299</a></p> <p>But yeah, we need to start thinking about the fact that as more people use WP as a CMS, a lot of their important data resides outside of post_content.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7320" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T20:01:23Z">8:01 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7320" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7320" class="commentcontent"><p>Absolutely this. We make heavy use of post meta in sites we build for people, and storing revisions would be a huge plus. Does anyone know of additional tickets that address this? (The one Mark linked to is specifically focused on the fact that previewing changes to a post updates meta (silently), which isn’t expected behavior).</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7323" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T20:04:28Z">8:04 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7323" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7323" class="commentcontent"><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20564">#20564</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7340" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt odd alt depth-5"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:20:45Z">11:20 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7340" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7340" class="commentcontent"><p>Thanks Helen. Might I suggest that it would be natural for<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/18179"> #18179</a> to include an argument such that when a metabox is registered, the keys in that box are then registered to have revisions tracked.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7316" class="comment byuser comment-author-mordauk even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/edcaf8a5c1dc7c741113d772e767bfc2?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://pippinsplugins.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Pippin (mordauk)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:55:40Z">7:55 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7316" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7316" class="commentcontent"><p>Huge +1.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7318" class="comment byuser comment-author-goldenapples odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1f5554a4b5cbe76a16b5287c308a5be9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://goldenapplesdesign.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">goldenapples</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:58:03Z">7:58 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7318" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7318" class="commentcontent"><p>+1, I’m very interested in helping work on these features. I’ve worked with the authors on the site I manage to find workarounds for a number of related problems and have several ideas I’d like to test out: </p> <ul> <li>visualizing revision history as a tree rather than just a list (I look at vim’s :Gundo plugin as a rough UI example)</li> <li>post meta as mentioned above, although that needs a LOT of thought (lots of postmeta is never shown in a meta box, or is not meant to be edited by authors…)</li> <li>doing more to enable inter-user messaging along with the “heartbeat” autosave calls. Its possible to do something with websockets for the maybe 2% of sites that have that enabled, but for most people, the regular admin-ajax calls could be used to pass messages back and forth about what other users are viewing, if one user requests a release of the lock, etc.</li> </ul> </div> </li> </li> <li id="comment-7326" class="comment byuser comment-author-adamsilverstein even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/08001a0a424aed1382375a446ed690d6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://earthbound.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">adamsilverstein</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:07:26Z">9:07 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7326" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7326" class="commentcontent"><p>i’m interested in helping if i can</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7331" class="comment byuser comment-author-tentblogger odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2801f5145de98010dd72f1ac6d92938f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://john.do/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Saddington</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:19:39Z">9:19 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7331" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7331" class="commentcontent"><p>omg. yes.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7333" class="comment byuser comment-author-adegans even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/70b56f2fbcdaf82e34471d97456fb2a7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.ajdg.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Arnan de Gans</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:22:48Z">9:22 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7333" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7333" class="commentcontent"><p>And on top of that… While you guys are at it, make the dashboard, the whole of it, faster. Better loading, faster rendering (?) Whatever. Often on sites that have a bunch of plugins active it get’s really sluggish.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7336" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T22:13:12Z">10:13 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7336" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7336" class="commentcontent"><p>This is largely dependent on what they plugins you’re talking about do on the dashboard. Sounds like they’re likely doing something wrong if they’re slowing down the dashboard that much.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7433" class="comment byuser comment-author-technosailor even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d409f7e3d0b43dd41dcfbd58aa255601?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/technosailor/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron Brazell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T00:04:43Z">12:04 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7433" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7433" class="commentcontent"><p>Or nuke it altogether. I don’t have numbers but I’m guessing the majority of people spend 1% of their time in the Dashboard. I find it altogether useless, although I’m sure some would disagree with me.</p> <p>When I login to WP to produce content, the first thing I do is click on Add New in the posts menu. That’s a hover and a click more than I need to get into content production.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7334" class="comment byuser comment-author-johnkleinschmidt odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/984872e5c907be8f7d2eb9e3ec2258ba?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://cure.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Kleinschmidt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:46:42Z">9:46 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7334" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7334" class="commentcontent"><p>I have been doing a decent amount of work around offline storage recently and would love to help contribute on the JS side of things.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7335" class="comment byuser comment-author-mamun155 even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/48c06b07f8d46c82013ce541584bba1e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.79mplus.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Md Mahmudur Rahman</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T22:10:28Z">10:10 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7335" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7335" class="commentcontent"><p>Excellent.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7351" class="comment byuser comment-author-grantnorwood odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b005a0e278a46736d392b6c91a69aa71?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://grantnorwood.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Grant Norwood</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T23:59:58Z">11:59 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7351" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7351" class="commentcontent"><p>Thanks, Mark. This is a great goal, and worthy of the urgency you’ve expressed! Since you mentioned post revisions, I’d like to recommend that we think about how to better compare post/page/CPT revisions within the rich text editor. As it is currently implemented, non-technical users have difficulty comparing large amounts of plain-text and raw HTML, and often give up immediately when using the compare feature. Developers are accustomed to the unified diff format, but we’re the only ones.</p> <p>Could we take inspiration from the review/editing/comparison tools used in other popular copy-editing apps (i.e., MS Word) that would make a copywriter feel more at home when comparing content revisions?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7352" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T00:11:30Z">12:11 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7352" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7352" class="commentcontent"><p>Separate feature <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/" rel="nofollow">http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-revisions/</a></p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7466" class="comment byuser comment-author-mintindeed odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/33de789aa3fc0dc60bdc4b7df3a9b0c3?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://gabrielkoen.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gabriel Koen</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T21:18:03Z">9:18 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7466" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7466" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d like to lend a hand with this, I can provide user insight (our dev team has been fielding issues regarding this topic for a few years from a large staff of writers) as well as do PHP and JS coding for it.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7550" class="comment byuser comment-author-mbijon even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3ae8ccfad8ccf8eb113695bdf63b5fca?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mbijon.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Bijon</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-13T00:46:49Z">12:46 am <em>on</em> January 13, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7550" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7550" class="commentcontent"><p>Definitely loop Gabriel in on this, I’ve been using his ‘PMC Post Savior’ plugin recently and it’s been a huge help in preventing lost posts: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://github.com/Penske-Media-Corp/pmc-post-savior" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/Penske-Media-Corp/pmc-post-savior</a>.</p> <p>The best part about Post Savior is the UX rethink. Instead of a load of JS and localStorage it allows re-login over the top of the post interface. Really simplified the JS/localStorage fixes suggested on Daniel’s blog: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://danielbachhuber.com/2012/05/01/notify-when-logged-out/" rel="nofollow">http://danielbachhuber.com/2012/05/01/notify-when-logged-out/</a> </p> <p>…also worth checking out the discussion on that post too. Having the JS/storage-type fixes might be needed for full protection on mobile browsers.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7551" class="comment byuser comment-author-mbijon odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3ae8ccfad8ccf8eb113695bdf63b5fca?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mbijon.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Bijon</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-13T00:49:41Z">12:49 am <em>on</em> January 13, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking/#comment-7551" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-autosave-and-post-locking%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7551" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d like to help with this during this cycle too.</p> <p>Since I’m time-limited to being effective on only 1-2 tickets per cycle, I be happy to help with tests and testing if time there would be valuable.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2704" class="post-2704 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. Campbell ( @aaroncampbell )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/aaroncampbell/" title="Posts by Aaron D. Campbell ( @aaroncampbell )">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:09:31Z">6:09 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2704" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/">WordPress 3.6: the Post Formats UI feature </a></h2><p>Post formats is going to be a major win for 3.6. It’s one of those features that has so much potential, but it really falls short in usability and honestly we haven’t really taken the time to truly show what it can do. We’re going to re-think the admin UI for post formats, similar to what Alex King did with his <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://alexking.org/blog/2011/10/25/wordpress-post-formats-admin-ui">WordPress Post Formats Admin UI</a> plugin. The goal is to make post formats much more user friendly and then show them off with the 2013 theme.</p> <p>We’ve chosen <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/mentions/helen/" class="mention">@helen</a> as lead for this project. Helen has done some amazing stuff customizing the post screen for various projects, and we’re glad to be able to leverage that for core.</p> <p>Anyone interested in helping with this feature, please comment to let us know. The 3.6 schedule is considerably shorter than the 3.5 schedule was, so we really need to get moving on things as quickly as possible.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/29c9306fe6701ad04933625135a45418?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wp.envato.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Japh</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/436de2182b7b47d9cbbe132a6ef8f705?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://thematosoup.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Slobodan Manic</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7154ed295c1cdb899741bdfd663241e4?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://davebc.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">davebc</a>, and 26 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2704" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7288" class="comment byuser comment-author-pauldewouters even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dcb7cc657c19726b709098172efa1b6d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wpconsult.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Paul</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:15:50Z">6:15 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7288" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7288" class="commentcontent"><p>take a look at what Hybrid does in its latest release<br/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://themehybrid.com/docs/tutorials/post-format-tools" rel="nofollow">http://themehybrid.com/docs/tutorials/post-format-tools</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7310" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:32:40Z">7:32 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7310" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7310" class="commentcontent"><p>That links seems to be for members only</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7311" class="comment byuser comment-author-greenshady even depth-3"> <img alt="" 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<div id="commentcontent-7311" class="commentcontent"><p>Here’s the open link: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://github.com/justintadlock/hybrid-core/blob/master/extensions/post-format-tools.php" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/justintadlock/hybrid-core/blob/master/extensions/post-format-tools.php</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7413" class="comment byuser comment-author-pauldewouters odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/dcb7cc657c19726b709098172efa1b6d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wpconsult.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Paul</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T18:45:56Z">6:45 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7413" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7413" class="commentcontent"><p>thanks Justin <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7289" class="comment byuser comment-author-chipbennett even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" 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<div id="commentcontent-7289" class="commentcontent"><p>I think standardizing on the Post Formats UI, the types of data/content used for each post format type, and the method of input of those data will be a HUGE win for Theme developers and end users alike.</p> <p>The Theme Review Team will support your efforts here. Please keep us in the loop, so that we can update Theme Review guidelines accordingly, and help educate Theme developers regarding any changes.</p> <p>I’ll pass the word over to the team, in case anyone wants to contribute specific UI ideas.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7291" class="comment byuser comment-author-jchristopher odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d58c2b93e0f00d8f3c7ec2fbff942e4e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://mondaybynoon.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jonathan Christopher</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:24:20Z">6:24 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7291" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7291" class="commentcontent"><p>Really loving the idea of this getting some love for 3.6! Like Alex King’s implementation, will the UI update include customization along the lines of Custom Field storage as well? Thinking specifically about a Link post, will there be a core-defined Custom Field correlated with that? I realize that’s a really specific question so I’ll generalize it by asking if those types of conversations (data storage) will be a part of the UI update?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7392" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T13:46:01Z">1:46 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7392" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7392" class="commentcontent"><p>Going to stay away from implementation details here, – “just” gauging interest <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> Don’t want to have discussion getting buried/lost.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7292" class="comment byuser comment-author-nphaskins odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f416b6477888f461ce6ac6031b7873e7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://bearded-avenger.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">nphaskins</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:25:56Z">6:25 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7292" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7292" class="commentcontent"><p>+1</p> <p>Pulling some ideas from Alex’s stuff would be pretty sweet. </p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://alexking.org/blog/2011/10/25/wordpress-post-formats-admin-ui" rel="nofollow">http://alexking.org/blog/2011/10/25/wordpress-post-formats-admin-ui</a></p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7293" class="comment byuser comment-author-mikeschinkel even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/81df87e0d3e269d6fa6a17c6914fd656?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/MikeSchinkel/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schinkel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:28:00Z">6:28 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7293" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7293" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d love to see the ability in a plugin to move the TinyMCE editor to the bottom of the post screen rather than have it anchored where it has always been. Hopefully addressing post formats would make this a requirement?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7296" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:30:25Z">6:30 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7296" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7296" class="commentcontent"><p>There’s a hook between title and editor as of 3.5. It’s purposefully not a sortables (metaboxes) area, but perhaps it’s at least helpful in that regard?</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7304" class="comment byuser comment-author-mikeschinkel even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/81df87e0d3e269d6fa6a17c6914fd656?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/MikeSchinkel/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike Schinkel</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:14:06Z">7:14 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7304" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7304" class="commentcontent"><p>HI Helen,</p> <p>Thanks, yes I did notice that hook. In part it triggered me to want to be able to move the editor even more. <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> Much of the custom post type work I do would prefer to have the body at the bottom vs. at the post. So it’s not really helpful because metaboxes still go below the editor. I can dream? <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7398" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T14:38:29Z">2:38 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7398" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7398" class="commentcontent"><p>I guess I find sortable metaboxes above a statically-placed TinyMCE instance disruptive in practice, especially since a user could presumably drag anything into any given sortable area. Since the title is similarly static in placement, it seems sensible that the hook between the two not be a sortable one. I put lots of things in edit_form_after_title, but haven’t (yet) wanted them to be in the metabox “look” or be draggable.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7332" class="comment byuser comment-author-devesine even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/62848a793aaa523f75d4feab75c044db?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Justin de Vesine <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T21:22:26Z">9:22 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7332" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7332" class="commentcontent"><p>Speaking of sortables and TinyMCE, we recently needed to handle that gracefully, and we’re doing so by destroying the editor instances at the start of a sort and re-creating them afterwards, which seems to be both stable and reasonably speedy. (See <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/https://github.com/Annotum/Annotum/commit/28f50e13ee00d63edd5563fa00dd45abcacf4e10" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/Annotum/Annotum/commit/28f50e13ee00d63edd5563fa00dd45abcacf4e10</a> for the implementation in the Annotum project.)</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7406" class="comment byuser comment-author-lightningspirit odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea8b5d5491f71af29e8d8e00dc5a0f5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Vitor Carvalho <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:13:19Z">4:13 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7406" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7406" class="commentcontent"><p>That is very interesting indeed! It would be nice to have it implemented in future WP. Thank you Justin <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7405" class="comment byuser comment-author-lightningspirit even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2ea8b5d5491f71af29e8d8e00dc5a0f5?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> Vitor Carvalho <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T16:11:08Z">4:11 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7405" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7405" class="commentcontent"><p>The problem about TinyMCE is that it cannot be sortable. Once instantiated it cannot be moved through the DOM.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7412" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen odd alt depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T17:29:12Z">5:29 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7412" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7412" class="commentcontent"><p>We’re not talking about putting TinyMCE in a metabox here.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7294" class="comment byuser comment-author-cais even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f9bb98e439bf7efdf51993e1e70957ae?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/cais/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Edward Caissie</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:28:55Z">6:28 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7294" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7294" class="commentcontent"><p>Something to keep in mind (perhaps more so for the Theme Review Team) is not to go forward with Post Formats pigeon-holed into a rigid display of their associated content. I can see strong recommendation being made for how one might use the Post Formats but I would like to see anything stronger than a recommendation.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7297" class="comment byuser comment-author-cais odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f9bb98e439bf7efdf51993e1e70957ae?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/cais/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Edward Caissie</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:30:35Z">6:30 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7297" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7297" class="commentcontent"><p>er, I meant: “… I would *not* like to see anything stronger …”</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7300" class="comment byuser comment-author-chipbennett even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/1299e8d336a2d5faa4fc440d07ea44f8?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.chipbennett.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Chip Bennett</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:49:50Z">6:49 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7300" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7300" class="commentcontent"><p>I think the “big win” opportunity here is in establishing a standard convention regarding what *types of content* apply to each post format type, and what *type of data* each of those types of content are.</p> <p>For example, some post format types lend themselves well to *not* having a Post Title. That convention can be established, and Post Title hidden from the UI. (The associated Theme Review guideline would be “must not display Post Title for format types X, Y, Z”)</p> <p>For another example, some post format types have been implemented using post custom meta data. For all such instances, it is hugely important to standardize on hat post custom meta key/value.</p> <p>Implementation of Post Formats has been a bit of a “wild west”, with different Theme developers making different assumptions about appropriate content and appropriate data types for each post format type. I would love to see those assumptions standardized – and it is on that standardization that I think the WPTRT dovetails nicely into the effort by the UI team.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7305" class="comment byuser comment-author-markjaquith odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/markjaquith/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:19:32Z">7:19 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7305" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7305" class="commentcontent"><p><strong>This</strong>. We don’t want to constrain theme design, but we do want theme designers to know what data they’re getting, in which format, and to know which assumptions have been made about the utility and availability of various pieces of that data.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7307" class="comment byuser comment-author-devinreams even depth-4"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0a5f2e03ceff5f8df445a4bc31cbd279?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/devinreams/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Devin Reams</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:25:28Z">7:25 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7307" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7307" class="commentcontent"><p>Agreed. The frustrating part of formats so far has been the fact we standardized on the formats, but not other benefit/data to go with it. So we still have to “throw” everything into the_content. A consistent meta data format would be a big win here.</p> <p>But, you say, “what If someone switches to a theme without post formats, don’t they lose that meta data”? Sure, which is why we came up with some code to ‘fall back’ in those cases (attach the meta to the content display, basically): <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://alexking.org/blog/2011/11/02/wordpress-post-format-fallbacks" rel="nofollow">http://alexking.org/blog/2011/11/02/wordpress-post-format-fallbacks</a></p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7313" class="comment byuser comment-author-redsweater odd alt depth-5"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2773fb278535f8d2f0c193800a3b8e09?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Daniel Jalkut (Red Sweater)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:45:30Z">7:45 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7313" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7313" class="commentcontent"><p>I want to strongly agree with this and also point out that from a 3rd-party client developer perspective, this has implications on the ability to present a meaningful editing UI as well. I develop a blog editing app for the Mac, that also supports Tumblr which has the closest comparable feature to this that I know of. With Tumblr, I present e.g. the quotation and the attribution of a “Quote” type post separately, in indepent fields. With the WordPress “everything in content” approach, it would be possible to structure the content of the post on first edit, but impossible to reliably pull it apart again when opening up to re-edit.</p> <p>I imagine the same problem is limiting the ability of theme and plugin developers to innovate in the wp-admin built-in editor.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7308" class="comment byuser comment-author-aaroncampbell bypostauthor even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f27b79eb04eb414c4c1fc98375fe7404?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/aaroncampbell/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Aaron D. Campbell</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:26:30Z">7:26 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7308" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7308" class="commentcontent"><p>This is huge. We want users to be able to change themes and know that all their posts (in any format) will continue to work as expected. We don’t want one theme using _link_url postmeta and another _url because that’s when content is lost (or at least appears lost to the user, and for all intents and purposes it might as well be)</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7431" class="comment byuser comment-author-grantpalin odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/21ec4a8be46b7367360f2808fb5524c9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://grantpalin.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">grantpalin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T00:01:28Z">12:01 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7431" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7431" class="commentcontent"><p>I agree, a standard convention will be useful to guide themers in implementation – something that’s seemed lacking since formats appeared. Guidelines, not rules!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7444" class="comment byuser comment-author-jond3r even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6177770b1abde0528e23859aef153c1d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://jond3r.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jonas Bolinder (jond3r)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T12:36:46Z">12:36 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7444" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7444" class="commentcontent"><p>A too strict position on which data is allowed or not for a theme too display for a certain post format is discouraging. In particular a theme might want to display a relevant Post Title, which can be beneficial for understanding the content for humans (and bots).</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7295" class="comment byuser comment-author-thezman84 odd alt thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/bfb4833e40676616e28300a0b9f55d35?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.redclayinteractive.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Zach "The Z Man" Abernathy</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:29:54Z">6:29 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7295" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7295" class="commentcontent"><p>Count me in! I’m on-board for whatever is needed in 3.6</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7299" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:39:46Z">6:39 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7299" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7299" class="commentcontent"><p>@Helen, when/where will you be discussing what needs to be done? I’m not *sure* I can commit time to helping ,but I’d like to follow along in any case.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7319" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:59:01Z">7:59 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7319" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7319" class="commentcontent"><p>Should be like anything else in development – likely IRC for much of the interaction to keep things moving quickly, along with the ticket<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/19570"> #19570</a> on Trac (especially summaries). Right now we’re gauging interest in various proposed features/release items.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7322" class="comment byuser comment-author-travisnorthcutt even depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/69e090710d2a4303aeb8151a5c1f90d7?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/travisnorthcutt/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Travis Northcutt</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T20:04:22Z">8:04 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7322" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7322" class="commentcontent"><p>Thanks! I haven’t gotten involved in contributing to core really in the past (beyond chiming in on a ticket here and there), so I wasn’t sure what exactly to expect.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7463" class="comment byuser comment-author-slobodanmanic odd alt depth-3"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/436de2182b7b47d9cbbe132a6ef8f705?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://thematosoup.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Slobodan Manic</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T19:23:11Z">7:23 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7463" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7463" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m sure I can commit time <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> <p>Really, would love to help with this one, agree with everyone else that post formats could use some standardization.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7301" class="comment byuser comment-author-jtsternberg even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/41215c4c449bd8b8b439e3d9ee949692?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/jtsternberg/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Justin Sternberg</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:55:13Z">6:55 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7301" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7301" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d be happy to help out with this.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7302" class="comment byuser comment-author-prettyboymp odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7798c88264914c198355cb016ab1a1fb?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/prettyboymp/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">prettyboymp</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:57:05Z">6:57 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7302" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7302" class="commentcontent"><p>A set of functions like the post_type_supports() functions of custom post types would be extremely useful. </p> <p>I use it frequently to create a handler (form controls/save callback) for certain types of post meta and can turn it on for any post type by just making that post type support it. Similar functionality for post formats would make it possible to carry some of these over instead always unnecessarily needing a custom post type.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7303" class="comment byuser comment-author-tammyhart even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/8944f7679e3d6423b965f1fd379525c9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/tammyhart/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tammy Hart</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T18:59:43Z">6:59 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7303" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7303" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d like to help out with this as well. I’ve customized Alex King’s approach and used it a couple of times myself.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7306" class="comment byuser comment-author-wycks odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/92853ccea1fa287b701849c07de13a89?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.wpsecure.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">wycks</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:23:24Z">7:23 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7306" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7306" class="commentcontent"><p>This feature did meet with some pushback when it was first released because of lack of interest ( ≠ tumblr).</p> <p>Since then has there been any indication that people are using it? Can someone show me some good examples, besides ma.tt?</p> <p>Do you think it’s apparent lack of use is because of the UI?</p> <p>™ my opinion , I might be totally wrong.</p> </div> <ul class="children"> <li id="comment-7309" class="comment byuser comment-author-devinreams even depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0a5f2e03ceff5f8df445a4bc31cbd279?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/devinreams/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Devin Reams</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T19:31:51Z">7:31 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7309" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7309" class="commentcontent"><p>See Alex’s blog or my blog using the FavePersonal theme which has the aforementioned “post format UI” (and associated meta data) which allows for a pretty nice user experience (both for publisher and visitor) a la tumblr. It allows a lot more to be done when creating responsive designs, too.</p> <ul> <li>Video: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://cosnow.com/2012/12/19/video-13-inches-of-powder-at-aspen/" rel="nofollow">http://cosnow.com/2012/12/19/video-13-inches-of-powder-at-aspen/</a></li> <li>Gallery: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://cosnow.com/2012/12/20/breckenridge-12192012/" rel="nofollow">http://cosnow.com/2012/12/20/breckenridge-12192012/</a></li> <li>Standard: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://cosnow.com/2012/12/19/the-problem-with-24-hour-snow-reports/" rel="nofollow">http://cosnow.com/2012/12/19/the-problem-with-24-hour-snow-reports/</a></li> </ul> <p>I see a ton of other themes marked ‘post-formats’ in the theme browser on WP.org but the sample data doesn’t seem to take advantage of it (or the themes I saw don’t…).</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7321" class="comment byuser comment-author-helen odd alt depth-2"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6506162ada6b700b151ad8a187f65842?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://helen.wordpress.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Helen Hou-Sandi</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T20:03:17Z">8:03 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7321" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7321" class="commentcontent"><p>The various mobile apps also have post format support built in, with the image format being the one that probably sees the most use, as the “Quick Photo” feature in the apps automatically assigns that format. Of course, it’s up to the theme to do something special with it.</p> <p>The issues I see with adoption (or lack thereof) is with the lack of UI that makes an actual difference for the end user besides choosing from some radio buttons that don’t show you what’s different about the choices, and lack of data standardization for theme authors to take advantage of. It’s not something that’s going to be used by everybody in every application, and there are no illusions about that, but for those who do use it, it’s valuable and desirable, and we should always be making things better.</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="comment-7338" class="comment byuser comment-author-saracannon even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/32b34f5d4fdde3f24996bc8c5ec38f10?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/saracannon/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">sara cannon</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-07T22:53:02Z">10:53 pm <em>on</em> January 7, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7338" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7338" class="commentcontent"><p>count me in to help here as well.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7356" class="comment byuser comment-author-alexkingorg odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b8f2a107f25a4fcc04c607ddd621ea22?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/alexkingorg/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Alex King</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T01:02:18Z">1:02 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7356" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7356" class="commentcontent"><p>Obviously I’m a big fan of this getting into core. The trac ticket is here for anyone interested:</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/19570" rel="nofollow">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/19570</a></p> <p>The code in the GitHub repos should work fine with WordPres 3.5, but obviously we wouldn’t want the JS hacks that were needed to implement it as an add-on.</p> <p>Having thought it through and implemented this once already, I’m still pretty pleased with the overall approach we used and the naming conventions we established. I’d *really* love to see the post meta naming conventions maintained if at all possible.</p> <p>Helen, let me know if there are things I can do to help out!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7366" class="comment byuser comment-author-melchoyce even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2dc245d4cf9e5579dfb0e13e7dcb75db?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://choycedesign.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mel Choyce</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T02:24:24Z">2:24 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7366" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7366" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d like to help out with this, if there’s still room.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7368" class="comment byuser comment-author-sabreuse odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0b59d8f1c9c189ad2f3b3e25746aee1a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://amyhendrix.net/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Amy Hendrix (sabreuse)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T02:49:32Z">2:49 am <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7368" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7368" class="commentcontent"><p>Sign me up.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7432" class="comment byuser comment-author-grantpalin even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/21ec4a8be46b7367360f2808fb5524c9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://grantpalin.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">grantpalin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T00:04:36Z">12:04 am <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7432" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7432" class="commentcontent"><p>I’d be happy to help with this in the form of suggestions and feedback. I’ve been puzzled by the lack of a real UI for using formats, and have used Alex King’s plugin to fill the hole. Something worthwhile could be to write a guide on migrating from a plugin-based solution to a core-based one, which I might be able o help with.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7445" class="comment byuser comment-author-jond3r odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6177770b1abde0528e23859aef153c1d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://jond3r.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Jonas Bolinder (jond3r)</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T12:52:48Z">12:52 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7445" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7445" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m prepared to contribute (with code and opinions).</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7457" class="comment byuser comment-author-davebc even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7154ed295c1cdb899741bdfd663241e4?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://davebc.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">davebc</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T17:41:56Z">5:41 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7457" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7457" class="commentcontent"><p>I’m no coder, but I’ve been dying for post formats to get this attention since they debuted and have stuck with Tumblr solely for this reason ever since. There are few things I won’t do to help test, if you could use that.</p> <p>One request: please don’t overlook the bookmarklet when updating the UI for these features.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7467" class="comment byuser comment-author-japh odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/29c9306fe6701ad04933625135a45418?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wp.envato.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Japh</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-09T21:36:13Z">9:36 pm <em>on</em> January 9, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/07/wordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature/#comment-7467" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F07%2Fwordpress-3-6-the-post-formats-ui-feature%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7467" class="commentcontent"><p>I know I said it in IRC the other week, but just to be sure: I’m in for this one!</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2696" class="post-2696 post type-post status-publish format-status hentry category-uncategorized"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/nacin/" title="Posts by Andrew Nacin ( @nacin )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01cfe9feaafb068590891bbd1f6a7f5a?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/nacin/" title="Posts by Andrew Nacin ( @nacin )">Andrew Nacin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-05T07:52:08Z">7:52 am <em>on</em> January 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/05/call-for-testers-for-3-5-1/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F05%2Fcall-for-testers-for-3-5-1%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags">   </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2696" class="postcontent"> <p><strong>Call for testers.</strong> WordPress 3.5.1 is now in beta and we could use your help. (Use either the 3.5 branch in SVN, the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-beta-tester">WordPress Beta Tester plugin</a>, or <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wordpress.org/nightly-builds/wordpress-3.5-latest.zip">the nightly build (zip)</a>.)</p> <p>There’s about 30 tickets currently resolved, and another few we’re still working on. Here’s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/query?milestone=3.5.1&groupdesc=1&group=resolution&order=priority">the full report of those</a>. In particular, we could use help testing multisite rewrite rules. There’s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23073#comment:35">a comment with testing instructions</a> on the ticket,<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23073"> #23073</a>.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9de4f7d0e7670fcab313d8a3aab5a3c6?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://omniwp.com.br/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gabriel Reguly</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2801f5145de98010dd72f1ac6d92938f?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://john.do/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Saddington</a>, and <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01cfe9feaafb068590891bbd1f6a7f5a?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://nacin.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Andrew Nacin</a> are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2696" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7280" class="comment byuser comment-author-nacin bypostauthor even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01cfe9feaafb068590891bbd1f6a7f5a?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://nacin.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Andrew Nacin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-05T07:52:57Z">7:52 am <em>on</em> January 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/05/call-for-testers-for-3-5-1/#comment-7280" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F05%2Fcall-for-testers-for-3-5-1%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7280" class="commentcontent"><p>Timeline for RC1: As early as Saturday, January 5. For final release: As early as Monday, January 7.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7281" class="comment byuser comment-author-tentblogger odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2801f5145de98010dd72f1ac6d92938f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://john.do/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Saddington</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-05T13:52:34Z">1:52 pm <em>on</em> January 5, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/05/call-for-testers-for-3-5-1/#comment-7281" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F05%2Fcall-for-testers-for-3-5-1%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7281" class="commentcontent"><p>Sweet! Looking forward to it!</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7400" class="comment byuser comment-author-gabriel-reguly even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9de4f7d0e7670fcab313d8a3aab5a3c6?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://omniwp.com.br/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Gabriel Reguly</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-08T14:58:12Z">2:58 pm <em>on</em> January 8, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/05/call-for-testers-for-3-5-1/#comment-7400" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F05%2Fcall-for-testers-for-3-5-1%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7400" class="commentcontent"><p>Please remember to update Project options for building the packages.</p> <p>Currently we have only Development (trunk) or 3.4 and 3.4.x.</p> <p>We are missing 3.5 and 3.5.x</p> <p>Regards,<br/> Gabriel</p> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2695" class="post-2695 post type-post status-publish format-status hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-5"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/nacin/" title="Posts by Andrew Nacin ( @nacin )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/01cfe9feaafb068590891bbd1f6a7f5a?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/nacin/" title="Posts by Andrew Nacin ( @nacin )">Andrew Nacin</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T18:31:01Z">6:31 pm <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/impromptu-3-5-1-meeting-in-30-minutes-1900-utc/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fimpromptu-3-5-1-meeting-in-30-minutes-1900-utc%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-5/" rel="tag">3.5 ( 23 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2695" class="postcontent"> <p>Impromptu 3.5.1 meeting in 30 minutes (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&sec=0&p1=0">19:00 UTC</a>) in #wordpress-dev. Still <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://core.trac.wordpress.org/report/4">upwards of 16 tickets</a> to lock down. Would like to hit 3.5.1 beta by the end of the week.</p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2695" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> </ul> </li> <li id="prologue-2692" class="post-2692 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-uncategorized tag-3-6 tag-irc tag-planning"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )" class="post-avatar"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/31c9246c917b5a53e34ae693b37840ac?s=48&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D48&r=G" class="avatar avatar-48 photo" height="48" width="48"/> </a> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/author/markjaquith/" title="Posts by Mark Jaquith ( @markjaquith )">Mark Jaquith</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T02:04:57Z">2:04 am <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/" class="thepermalink" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to leave a Comment</a> </span> <span class="tags"> <br/>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/3-6/" rel="tag">3.6 ( 9 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/irc/" rel="tag">irc ( 10 )</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/tag/planning/" rel="tag">planning ( 2 )</a>    </span> </span> </h4> <div id="content-2692" class="postcontent"> <h2><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/">WordPress 3.6 Planning Session </a></h2><p>I hope everyone enjoyed the holidays! We’re back to our regularly scheduled IRC meetings tomorrow, and are going to start by scoping and planning out the 3.6 cycle. Wednesday, Jan 2, 21:00 UTC. Please make every effort to attend! The theme I’m proposing for 3.6 is “Content Editing”, so especially start thinking about editing, editorial workflows, revisions, autosave, DFW, etc. Also be thinking about what you’d like to work on and how much time you can commit this cycle.</p> </div> <div class="discussion" style="display: none"> <p> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b17afebed7d20724f2a79e7de70ddf44?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mojowill.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">mojowill</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7916cf374479c08b91ed386318671877?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.rocketwood.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">David Tufts</a>, <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7b8ff059b9a4504dfbaebd4dd190466e?s=16&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D16&r=G" class="avatar avatar-16 photo" height="16" width="16"/> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://copyblogger.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ron Rennick</a>, and 4 others are discussing. <a href="#" class="show-comments">Toggle Comments</a> </p> </div> <div class="bottom-of-entry"> </div> <ul id="comments-2692" class="commentlist inlinecomments"> <li id="comment-7263" class="comment byuser comment-author-tentblogger even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2801f5145de98010dd72f1ac6d92938f?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://john.do/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">John Saddington</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T02:45:29Z">2:45 am <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/#comment-7263" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7263" class="commentcontent"><p>booya. this will be awesome. can’t wait to see what 3.6 brings in terms of content editing, especially for editors of blog and blog networks. bingo.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7265" class="comment byuser comment-author-japh odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/29c9306fe6701ad04933625135a45418?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://wp.envato.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Japh</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T02:49:02Z">2:49 am <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/#comment-7265" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7265" class="commentcontent"><p>I plan to be there, Mark! Looking to be an excellent release. I like the proposed theme. Depending what it ends up looking like, I imagine features for this version will be very relevant for me.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7266" class="comment byuser comment-author-nofearinc even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/25de575216d3743f80181b2dca2cd7d9?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://devwp.eu/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">nofearinc</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T08:49:42Z">8:49 am <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/#comment-7266" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7266" class="commentcontent"><p>this seems way more handy than the gallery functionality as it covers every single user and would lead to performance and UX improvement. Very exciting.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7267" class="comment byuser comment-author-rosso99 odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/e5dae0bd2dea55f013b2ffd49d6e6f1d?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/rosso99/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Sara Rosso</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T09:25:30Z">9:25 am <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/#comment-7267" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7267" class="commentcontent"><p>Exciting. I’m going to follow along closely on this one! <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley"/> </p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7268" class="comment byuser comment-author-wpmuguru even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7b8ff059b9a4504dfbaebd4dd190466e?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://copyblogger.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ron Rennick</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T14:38:20Z">2:38 pm <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/#comment-7268" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7268" class="commentcontent"><p>I hope to attend but will miss the first of the meetup. After discussing the multisite roadmap at WPCS I went through most of the multisite tickets. For 3.6 I think it would be good if we went through and cleaned up some of the small enhancements and UX inconsistencies. I’ll have a few hours a week throughout most of the 3.6 cycle to work on those items.</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7269" class="comment byuser comment-author-rocketwood odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7916cf374479c08b91ed386318671877?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.rocketwood.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">David Tufts</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-02T15:53:35Z">3:53 pm <em>on</em> January 2, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/02/wordpress-3-6-planning-session/#comment-7269" title="Permalink">Permalink</a> | <a rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://make.wordpress.org/core/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fmake.wordpress.org%2Fcore%2F2013%2F01%2F02%2Fwordpress-3-6-planning-session%2F">Log in to Reply</a> </span> </span> </h4> <div id="commentcontent-7269" class="commentcontent"><p>As far as the custom fields and custom meta boxes go, I would like to see extendable form elements in WordPress similar to the extendable widgets. There should be a base form element class that all other form elements can extend, allowing for all form elements in the custom meta boxes to be generated using built in WordPress elements like, date picker, color picker, editor, etc. This would include input validation and all the sql validation as well. I have added something similar to this in the KickPress plugin that is in the plugin repository. (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://plugins.svn.wordpress.org/kickpress/trunk/kickpress-form-elements.php" rel="nofollow">http://plugins.svn.wordpress.org/kickpress/trunk/kickpress-form-elements.php</a>)</p> </div> </li> <li id="comment-7276" class="comment byuser comment-author-mojowill even thread-even depth-1"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/b17afebed7d20724f2a79e7de70ddf44?s=32&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=G" class="avatar avatar-32 photo" height="32" width="32"/> <h4> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130115122550/http://www.mojowill.com/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">mojowill</a> <span class="meta"> <abbr title="2013-01-03T08:54:47Z">8:54 am <em>on</em> January 3, 2013</abbr> <span class="actions"> <a class="thepermalink" 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