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Patrakov"</a></li><li><a href="/lkml/2005/12/6/194">Simon Oosthoek</a><ul><li class="origin"><a href="/lkml/2005/12/8/31">Luke-Jr</a><ul><li><a href="/lkml/2005/12/8/31">Helge Hafting</a><ul><li><a href="/lkml/2005/12/8/61">Luke-Jr</a></li><li><a href="/lkml/2005/12/8/83">Nix</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></td><td width="32" rowspan="2" class="c" valign="top"><img src="/images/icornerl.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="/" /></td><td class="c" rowspan="2" valign="top" style="padding-top: 1em"><table><tr><td><table><tr><td class="lp">From</td><td class="rp" itemprop="author">Luke-Jr <></td></tr><tr><td class="lp">Subject</td><td class="rp" itemprop="name">Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario</td></tr><tr><td class="lp">Date</td><td class="rp" itemprop="datePublished">Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:50:19 +0000</td></tr></table></td><td></td></tr></table><pre itemprop="articleBody">On Tuesday 06 December 2005 16:27, Simon Oosthoek wrote:<br />> Arjan van de Ven wrote:<br />> > On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 18:26 +0000, Andrew Walrond wrote:<br />> >>On Monday 05 December 2005 10:52, Arjan van de Ven wrote:<br />> >>>a hypothetical doomsday scenario by Arjan van de Ven<br />> >><br />> >>Can I ask what prompted your post?<br />> ><br />> > I got one too many hatemails from a "nvidia fanboy" who blamed me for<br />> > just about anything wrong in the world.... I fear that most of these<br />> > people have no idea why open source drivers matter, or at least what the<br />> > consequences are for not caring about drivers being open or not.<br />><br />> I use nvidia cards, mostly because they work better than an alternative<br />> for now, but every time I need a card I look for stuff that is more<br />> open, because I hate to have to use the non-free closed stuff to do<br />> graphics. 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