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indicators, brakes, park no problem but if i run 2 or more at the same time like indicators and park lights or indicators and brake lights all the bulbs flash like Xmas tree lights, if i run park lights then hit the brakes the park lights go very dim, Does this point to a specific issue or could be a bunch of things?</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> </div> </div> </div> <div class="block block--messages" data-xf-init="" data-type="post" data-href="/inline-mod/" data-search-target="*"> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="posts"></span> <div class="block-outer"><div class="block-outer-opposite"> <div class="tabs tabs--standalone tabs--standalone--small tabs--standalone--inline"> <a 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That should be a thicker wire, but that is not always done.<br /> <br /> The Australian and New Zealand towing socket is a 12 way socket, which is a row of 7 and a row of 5. Some trailers only plug into the row of 7. The middle of each row is earth, and it's possible that the earth on the vehicle socket is poor or non-existent on one of the rows but OK on the other.<br /> <br /> A poor earth is very common on trailers. On some Jaguars and Land Rovers there is a trailer light test, that allows someone to check if all the lights work (and at the right time) as it lights up each light in turn, along with the corresponding light on the car. 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That should be a thicker wire, but that is not always done.\n\nThe Australian and New Zealand towing socket is a 12 way socket, which is a row of 7 and a row of 5. Some trailers only plug into the row of 7. The middle of each row is earth, and it's possible that the earth on the vehicle socket is poor or non-existent on one of the rows but OK on the other.\n\nA poor earth is very common on trailers. On some Jaguars and Land Rovers there is a trailer light test, that allows someone to check if all the lights work (and at the right time) as it lights up each light in turn, along with the corresponding light on the car. The system also turns on all of the lights at the same time, and that is done mainly to see if there is a faulty earth.", "upvoteCount": 0, "author": { "@type": "Person", "@id": "https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/diver300.73824/", "name": "Diver300", "url": "https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/diver300.73824/" } }, { "@type": "Answer", "datePublished": "2025-02-24T22:34:34+00:00", "url": "https://www.electro-tech-online.com/posts/1461168/", "text": "I'd guess there's at least one poor earth (chassis) connection.\nWelcome to ETO!", "upvoteCount": 0, "author": { "@type": "Person", "@id": "https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/alec_t.166711/", "name": "alec_t", "url": "https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/alec_t.166711/" } } ] }, "publisher": { "@type": "Organization", "name": "Electronics Forum (Circuits, Projects and Microcontrollers)", "description": "An electronics forum to talk all about circuits and projects.", "url": "https://www.electro-tech-online.com" } } </script> <!-- Google Tag Manager (noscript) Global --> <noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-MMC9PJ9" height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript> <!-- End Google Tag Manager (noscript) --> <!-- Google Tag Manager (noscript) --> <noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-KLX5R59" height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript> <!-- End Google Tag Manager (noscript) --> <script> $(function(){ var notice = $('.xb-welcome-notice'); if(notice.length){ var cookie = XF.Cookie.get('hide_welcome_notice'); if(!cookie){ XF.Cookie.set('hide_welcome_notice', Date.now()); notice.show(); } else if ((Date.now() - cookie) > 8.64e+7){ XF.Cookie.set('hide_welcome_notice', Date.now()); notice.show(); } else { notice.hide(); } } }); </script> </div> </body> </html>