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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G." class="mw-userlink" title="User:Jeff G." data-mw-revid="961870655"><bdi>Jeff G.</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jeff_G." class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Jeff G.">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jeff_G." class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Jeff G.">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Commons:File_renaming" title="Commons:File renaming">File movers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Commons:License_review" title="Commons:License review">Image reviewers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Commons:Rollback" title="Commons:Rollback">Rollbackers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Commons:Template_editors" title="Commons:Template editors">Template editors</a>, <a href="/wiki/Commons:Translation_administrators" title="Commons:Translation administrators">Translation administrators</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>461,575</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses">*{{vd}} per above. ~~~~</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png&diff=next&oldid=961870655" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Murder of Kiaya Campbell.png" id="differences-nextlink">Newer edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>*{{vd}} per nom. If needed for an enwiki article it can be used ''there'' under fair use as subject is deceased. [[User:Dmartin969|Dmartin969]] ([[User talk:Dmartin969|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>*{{vd}} per nom. If needed for an enwiki article it can be used ''there'' under fair use as subject is deceased. [[User:Dmartin969|Dmartin969]] ([[User talk:Dmartin969|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>*{{vd}} since works by local governments aren't automatically entered into the public domain under US copyright law as explained in [[:en:Wikipedia:Public domain#US government works]], the {{tlx|PD-USGov}} license is clearly incorrect. Moreover, the State of Colorado [https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/colorado/ doesn't seem to be one of the US states which does do such a thing]; so, even if this photo did originate with the [[:en:Thornton, Colorado|Thornton Police Department]], it still would most likely not be within the public domain and [[:COM:CONSENT|copyright holder consent]] would, therefore, need to be verified for Commons to keep this. Finally, just also going to clarify that [[:en:fair use|fair use]] and [[:en:WP:NFC|non-free content]] aren't exactly the same thing when it comes to English Wikipedia; [[:en:WP:NFCC|English Wikipedia's non-free content use policy]] has been set up to be [[:en:WP:NFC#Background|much more restrictive than fair use]] and simply arguing [[:en:WP:ITSFAIRUSE|it's fair use]] is generally considered insufficient. Furthermore, one of the restrictions placed on non-free use by English Wikipedia's policy is that it only can be used in the article namespace per [[:en:WP:NFCC#9|non-free content use criterion #9]]; so, the uploading of non-free images [[:en:WP:DRAFTS#Creating and editing drafts|should wait until after a draft has been approved as article]], and this file couldn't be used in [[:en:Draft:Murder of Kiaya Campbell]] even if re-uploaded locally to English Wikipedia as non-free content. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>*{{vd}} since works by local governments aren't automatically entered into the public domain under US copyright law as explained in [[:en:Wikipedia:Public domain#US government works]], the {{tlx|PD-USGov}} license is clearly incorrect. Moreover, the State of Colorado [https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/colorado/ doesn't seem to be one of the US states which does do such a thing]; so, even if this photo did originate with the [[:en:Thornton, Colorado|Thornton Police Department]], it still would most likely not be within the public domain and [[:COM:CONSENT|copyright holder consent]] would, therefore, need to be verified for Commons to keep this. Finally, just also going to clarify that [[:en:fair use|fair use]] and [[:en:WP:NFC|non-free content]] aren't exactly the same thing when it comes to English Wikipedia; [[:en:WP:NFCC|English Wikipedia's non-free content use policy]] has been set up to be [[:en:WP:NFC#Background|much more restrictive than fair use]] and simply arguing [[:en:WP:ITSFAIRUSE|it's fair use]] is generally considered insufficient. Furthermore, one of the restrictions placed on non-free use by English Wikipedia's policy is that it only can be used in the article namespace per [[:en:WP:NFCC#9|non-free content use criterion #9]]; so, the uploading of non-free images [[:en:WP:DRAFTS#Creating and editing drafts|should wait until after a draft has been approved as article]], and this file couldn't be used in [[:en:Draft:Murder of Kiaya Campbell]] even if re-uploaded locally to English Wikipedia as non-free content. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>*<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</del>{{vd}} per above [[User:Gnom|Gnom]] ([[User talk:Gnom|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>*{{vd}} per above [[User:Gnom|Gnom]] ([[User talk:Gnom|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>*{{vd}} per above. &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 02:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Revision as of 02:02, 26 November 2024</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png-20241125173000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png-20241125173000"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png" title="File:Murder of Kiaya Campbell.png">File:Murder of Kiaya Campbell.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png-20241125173000"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abzeronow-20241125173000-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png"></span>The Thornton Police Department is not part of the federal government, and this was probably a family photograph. Would need VRT permission to host. <a href="/wiki/User:Abzeronow" title="User:Abzeronow">Abzeronow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abzeronow" title="User talk:Abzeronow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png#c-Abzeronow-20241125173000-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abzeronow-20241125173000-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abzeronow-20241125173000-File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dmartin969-20241125182100-Abzeronow-20241125173000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Delete</bdi></b> per nom. If needed for an enwiki article it can be used <i>there</i> under fair use as subject is deceased. <a href="/wiki/User:Dmartin969" title="User:Dmartin969">Dmartin969</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dmartin969" title="User talk:Dmartin969"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell.png#c-Dmartin969-20241125182100-Abzeronow-20241125173000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dmartin969-20241125182100-Abzeronow-20241125173000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dmartin969-20241125182100-Abzeronow-20241125173000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20241125211900-Abzeronow-20241125173000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Delete</bdi></b> since works by local governments aren't automatically entered into the public domain under US copyright law as explained in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Public_domain#US_government_works" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Public domain">en:Wikipedia:Public domain#US government works</a>, the {{<a href="/wiki/Template:PD-USGov" title="Template:PD-USGov">PD-USGov</a>}} license is clearly incorrect. Moreover, the State of Colorado <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/colorado/">doesn't seem to be one of the US states which does do such a thing</a>; so, even if this photo did originate with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton,_Colorado" class="extiw" title="en:Thornton, Colorado">Thornton Police Department</a>, it still would most likely not be within the public domain and <a href="/wiki/Commons:CONSENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:CONSENT">copyright holder consent</a> would, therefore, need to be verified for Commons to keep this. Finally, just also going to clarify that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fair_use" class="extiw" title="en:fair use">fair use</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFC" class="extiw" title="en:WP:NFC">non-free content</a> aren't exactly the same thing when it comes to English Wikipedia; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFCC" class="extiw" title="en:WP:NFCC">English Wikipedia's non-free content use policy</a> has been set up to be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFC#Background" class="extiw" title="en:WP:NFC">much more restrictive than fair use</a> and simply arguing <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ITSFAIRUSE" class="extiw" title="en:WP:ITSFAIRUSE">it's fair use</a> is generally considered insufficient. Furthermore, one of the restrictions placed on non-free use by English Wikipedia's policy is that it only can be used in the article namespace per <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFCC#9" class="extiw" title="en:WP:NFCC">non-free content use criterion #9</a>; so, the uploading of non-free images <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DRAFTS#Creating_and_editing_drafts" class="extiw" title="en:WP:DRAFTS">should wait until after a draft has been approved as article</a>, and this file couldn't be used in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Murder_of_Kiaya_Campbell" class="extiw" title="en:Draft:Murder of Kiaya Campbell">en:Draft:Murder of Kiaya Campbell</a> even if re-uploaded locally to English Wikipedia as non-free content. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a 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