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href="./viewtopic.php?p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683711">Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683711" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">egallager</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-06T07:33:47+00:00">September 6th, 2023, 7:33 am</time> </p> <div class="content">So, I have recently been doing a survey of UMC music, and I have found that there are a number of music tracks that have been copied between add-ons. Or, at least I'm assuming they're the same track; my methodology here was just searching by filename and assuming that any found were the same thing; I only actually listened to the copies in the UMC Music Books. Anyways, these were the most popular tracks that I found, in terms of how many different add-ons they were copied between: <ul> <li>In the Land of Madness (exists in 9 add-ons: Project Thursagan, The Amaranthine Stone's separate music pack add-on "TAS_Music", The Great Steppe Era, Archaic Sounds, After the Storm, A Whim of Fate, UMC Music Book 03, To Lands Unknown, and Red Winter Reborn)</li> <li>Ambuscade (exists in 8 add-ons: Project Thursagan, A Hero's Fate, From the New World, TAS_Music, Akladian Music, UMC Music Book 07, Genesis, and Invasion from the Unkown)</li> <li>MoleMan (exists in 7 add-ons: The Great Steppe Era, Spartan, Project Thursagan, Return from the Abyss's separate music pack add-on "RftA-Music", After the Storm, Genesis, and UMC Music Book 08)</li> <li>Climactic Contemplation (exists in 6 add-ons: Alariel's Journey, From the New World, A Hero's Fate, Project Thursagan, Invasion from the Unknown, and UMC Music Book 08)</li> <li>Enchanted Forest (exists in 6 add-ons: Project Thursagan, Alariel's Journey, Spartan, After the Storm, UMC Music Book 04, and To Lands Unknown)</li> <li>One Thousand Suns (exists in 6 add-ons: Archaic Sounds, After the Storm, Genesis, Red Winter Reborn, UMC Music Book 03, and Akladian Music with a slightly different spelling that I noticed manually)</li> <li>Overlive (exists in 6 add-ons: Spartan, The Great Steppe Era, After the Storm, Genesis, To Lands Unknown, and UMC Music Book 09)</li> <li>The High King's March (exists in 6 add-ons: Fate of a Princess, The Great Steppe Era, Project Thursagan, Drums of War, UMC Music Book 03, and After the Storm)</li> <li>Through The Gates (exists in 6 add-ons: TWLP_Music, TAS_Music, The Great Steppe Era, Red Winter Reborn, Akladian Music, and UMC Music Book 08)</li> <li>Dark Passage (exists in 5 add-ons: TAS_Music, TWLP_Music, Akladian Music, To Lands Unknown, and UMC Music Book 07)</li> <li>Exploration (exists in 5 add-ons: TWLP_Music, TAS_Music, To Lands Unknown, UMC Music Book 07, and Akladian Music)</li> <li>Forested Vista (exists in 5 add-ons: TAS_Music, Alariel's Journey, TWLP_Music, A Whim of Fate, and UMC Music Book 08)</li> <li>Everlasting Night (exists in 5 add-ons: TAS_Music, Genesis, After the Storm, Red Winter Reborn, and UMC Music Book 04)</li> <li>Western Theme 2 (exists in 5 add-ons: A Hero's Fate, Project Thursagan, From the New World, Invasion from the Unknown, and UMC Music Book 09)</li> </ul> The widespread copying of these tracks seems to indicate to me that these tracks are in high demand. Would there be any interest in moving some of them to mainline to make it easier for UMC authors to use? 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For example, there are at least four different versions of <code class="inline-code">ambuscade.ogg</code> in different add-ons - the ones in <em class="text-italics">UMC Music Book 07</em>, <em class="text-italics">Akladian Music</em>, <em class="text-italics">Amaranthine Stone Music</em>, and <em class="text-italics">Invasion from the Unknown Music</em> are all different.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683715" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683715"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=142846_1626436729.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=142846&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">684</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 18th, 2016, 6:14 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Yes</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683715"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683715&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683715">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683715&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683715&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683715" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-06T13:41:31+00:00">September 6th, 2023, 1:41 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683711"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">egallager</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683711" data-post-id="683711" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 6th, 2023, 7:33 am</span></cite> ...The widespread copying of these tracks seems to indicate to me that these tracks are in high demand. Would there be any interest in moving some of them to mainline to make it easier for UMC authors to use? I personally would find it convenient. </div></blockquote> Seconded!<br> <br> I appreciate that in an ideal world content creators would require players to download the appropriate music books and over time the same resources would be used by diferent campaigns. However for whatever reason this doesn't always happen, a lot of UMC (no idea what proportion of the whole) seems to come with its own music add-on. (Guilty as charged M'lud <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif" width="28" height="15" alt=":whistle:" title="Whistle"> ).<br> <br> Alternatively, could existing music books be condensed into fewer, larger add-ons? I was considering publishing a set of two music compilations (based on AfterEI's large music collection) that could be further expanded as required and shared between content creators to reduce this per-campaign music duplication, but it's not really a great solution IMHO.<br> <br> In addition to grouping the additional music into fewer but larger add-ons would it be helpful to group the additional music tracks by mood so have additional books dedicated to a particular music mood as you mentioned in your post in the <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=679702#p679702" class="postlink">Expanding UMC Music</a> thread.<br> BTW are there any established "mood categories" for music in Wesnoth?<br> I'd be willing to assist in categorising music if there was a good chance such work would be utilised in some way.<br> <br> I do think that popular tracks should be migrated to mainline. A lot of extra tracks would make the game download significantly larger than it already is so I can see players who don't use music when they play might not want the extra music included as standard. I guess you can't keep everyone happy all the time...<br> <br> <br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683713&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683713"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122117&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">gnombat</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683713&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683713" data-post-id="683713" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 6th, 2023, 11:16 am</span></cite> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683711"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">egallager</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683711&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683711" data-post-id="683711" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 6th, 2023, 7:33 am</span></cite> Or, at least I'm assuming they're the same track; my methodology here was just searching by filename and assuming that any found were the same thing; I only actually listened to the copies in the UMC Music Books.</div></blockquote> Note that for some tracks there are multiple versions floating around. For example, there are at least four different versions of <code class="inline-code">ambuscade.ogg</code> in different add-ons - the ones in <em class="text-italics">UMC Music Book 07</em>, <em class="text-italics">Akladian Music</em>, <em class="text-italics">Amaranthine Stone Music</em>, and <em class="text-italics">Invasion from the Unknown Music</em> are all different. </div></blockquote> I suppose (assuming all versions have the appropriate copyright and credits) that we could either pick one (maybe the latest version published by the author/composer?) or include multiple versions?<br> Had a very quick listen to each version, they are all roughly the same play length (give or take a few seconds) according to Windows media player.<br> The theme seems the same but file size varies, I'm guessing due to compression and/or sampling rates.<br> Even if we went for one version, I think content creators could still use their preferred version in their content anyway by including that track 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href="./viewtopic.php?p=683715&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683715" data-post-id="683715" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 6th, 2023, 1:41 pm</span></cite> BTW are there any established "mood categories" for music in Wesnoth? </div></blockquote> I've been working on some for <acronym title="The Earths Gut">TEG</acronym>; they're defined in this file:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut/blob/master/utils/music.cfg" class="postlink">https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut/blob/master/utils/music.cfg</a><br> The issue where I'm tracking expanding it is here:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut/issues/11" class="postlink">https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut/issues/11</a><br> <acronym title="Dawn of Thunder">DoT</acronym> has a similar file, but I don't think it's used at all yet:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/dawn_of_thunder/blob/master/utils/music.cfg" class="postlink">https://github.com/cooljeanius/dawn_of_thunder/blob/master/utils/music.cfg</a><br> There's also this page on the wiki:<br> <a href="https://wiki.wesnoth.org/WML_Musical_Moods" class="postlink">https://wiki.wesnoth.org/WML_Musical_Moods</a><br> ...and then there's also this issue open against the main Wesnoth repo on GitHub:<br> <a href="https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/5767" class="postlink">https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/5767</a></div> <div id="sig683718" class="signature">Wesnoth-related GitHub repos:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/wesnoth_mods" class="postlink">General mods collection</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye_Easy_Edition" class="postlink"><acronym title="Son of the Black Eye Easy Edition">SotBEEE</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Two_Brothers_With_A_Third_Difficulty" 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music books?<br> The links states <em class="text-italics">Currently, only one of the UMC music books is usable with this campaign...</em> but doesn't seem to elaborate?<br> Is it that there's an actual preprocessor/WML issue preventing this or is it just that no-one's added the relevant coding yet? <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <br> FWIW if it's the latter, since all the TEG music macros look almost identical could you maybe do the same thing as for CUE to save typing?<br> <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>#define TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE SONG BOOK_NUM # Deliberately named differently so not inadvertently called by typos #arg BOOK_NUM # Default to music book 01 01#endarg #ifhave ~add-ons/UMC_Music_Book_{BOOK_NUM}/_main.cfg [music] name={SONG}.ogg append=yes ms_before=8000 [/music] #endif #enddef </code></pre></div> then implement each music book thus:<br> <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>#define TEG_UMC_MUSIC SONG {TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE {SONG}} #endif #enddef #define TEG_UMC2_MUSIC SONG {TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE {SONG} BOOK_NUM=02} #enddef </code></pre></div> ... and so on, I'm sure you get the idea?<br> (Disclaimer: I haven't tested this preprocessor code so may have got something wrong...)<br> <br> <br> So as I see it for <em class="text-italics">The Earth's Gut</em> the moods are:<ul> <li>Battle</li> <li>Epic</li> <li>Calm</li> <li>Underground</li> <li>Sad</li> <li>Normal</li> <li>Creepy</li> <li>CUE music uses some of the above plus two other categories/moods:<ul> <li>Doom (=defeat)</li> <li>Elves</li></ul></li></ul> These are similar but not exactly the same as the moods listed in the wiki.<br> <br> BTW is the intention for each track to appear in only one mood?<br> For almost all tracks this seems to be the case (from my brief skim) but I noticed that <em class="text-italics">One_Thousand_Suns</em> appears in both battle and epic.<br> Just thought I'd mention it <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <br> Pity about <em class="text-italics">vengeful (too much dynamics compression and thus too loud)</em> as I really like that track, it's one of the few that begin immediately with neither a quiet start or a brief silence so I often use it as music to accompany surprises <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <br> Anyway, that's a summary of my understanding of what's what.<br> Is there anything I can do to help?<br> <br> Cheers!<br> -- Spannerbag</div> <div id="sig683728" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">SP Campaigns: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51134" class="postlink">After EI</a> (v1.14) Leafsea Burning (<a 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Mostly just needing to decide what moods to assign to the remaining songs. <blockquote class="uncited"><div> The links states <em class="text-italics">Currently, only one of the UMC music books is usable with this campaign...</em> but doesn't seem to elaborate? </div></blockquote> Oh that's outdated now, let me update that... I just finished book 3... <blockquote class="uncited"><div> Is it that there's an actual preprocessor/WML issue preventing this or is it just that no-one's added the relevant coding yet? <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"> </div></blockquote> No one's added the relevant coding yet. <blockquote class="uncited"><div> FWIW if it's the latter, since all the TEG music macros look almost identical could you maybe do the same thing as for CUE to save typing? </div></blockquote> I mean, I mostly just do it by copying and pasting currently, so there isn't <em class="text-italics">that</em> much typing, but yeah, I guess I could... <blockquote class="uncited"><div> <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>#define TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE SONG BOOK_NUM # Deliberately named differently so not inadvertently called by typos #arg BOOK_NUM # Default to music book 01 01#endarg #ifhave ~add-ons/UMC_Music_Book_{BOOK_NUM}/_main.cfg [music] name={SONG}.ogg append=yes ms_before=8000 [/music] #endif #enddef </code></pre></div> then implement each music book thus:<br> <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>#define TEG_UMC_MUSIC SONG {TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE {SONG}} #endif #enddef #define TEG_UMC2_MUSIC SONG {TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE {SONG} BOOK_NUM=02} #enddef </code></pre></div> ... and so on, I'm sure you get the idea?<br> (Disclaimer: I haven't tested this preprocessor code so may have got something wrong...) </div></blockquote> Yeah I was thinking of doing something like this; what I really wish is that the preprocessor had some sort of looping construct so that I could do something like: <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>#for NUM in seq 1 12 do #define TEG_UMC{NUM}_MUSIC SONG {TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE {SONG} BOOK_NUM={NUM}} #enddef #endfor </code></pre></div> ...but the additional complexity that would require introducing into the preprocessor probably wouldn't be worth it... <blockquote class="uncited"><div> So as I see it for <em class="text-italics">The Earth's Gut</em> the moods are:<ul> <li>Battle</li> <li>Epic</li> <li>Calm</li> <li>Underground</li> <li>Sad</li> <li>Normal</li> <li>Creepy</li> <li>CUE music uses some of the above plus two other categories/moods:<ul> <li>Doom (=defeat)</li> <li>Elves</li></ul></li></ul> These are similar but not exactly the same as the moods listed in the wiki.<br> <br> BTW is the intention for each track to appear in only one mood? </div></blockquote> No, some tracks fit multiple moods. <blockquote class="uncited"><div> For almost all tracks this seems to be the case (from my brief skim) but I noticed that <em class="text-italics">One_Thousand_Suns</em> appears in both battle and epic.<br> Just thought I'd mention it <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"> </div></blockquote> Well that's because it fits in both places! <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"> <blockquote class="uncited"><div> Pity about <em class="text-italics">vengeful (too much dynamics compression and thus too loud)</em> as I really like that track, it's one of the few that begin immediately with neither a quiet start or a brief silence so I often use it as music to accompany surprises <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"> </div></blockquote> That was Anonymissimus's decision; I'm not sure if I agree with it, but I'm going to leave it as-is just to respect his original intent... <blockquote class="uncited"><div> Anyway, that's a summary of my understanding of what's what.<br> Is there anything I can do to help? </div></blockquote> Well, just listening to the music and saying what moods you think they fit would be helpful; I did actually manage to listen to all the music, but deciding on moods for some of the tracks was the tricky part...</div> <div id="sig683733" class="signature">Wesnoth-related GitHub repos:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/wesnoth_mods" class="postlink">General mods collection</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye_Easy_Edition" class="postlink"><acronym title="Son of the Black Eye Easy Edition">SotBEEE</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Two_Brothers_With_A_Third_Difficulty" class="postlink"><acronym title="A Tale of Two Brothers With a Third Difficulty">AToTBWaTD</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut" class="postlink">The Earth's Gut</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_Little_Adventure" class="postlink">A Little Adventure</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Flight_Freedom" class="postlink"><acronym title="Flight to Freedom">FtF</acronym></a><br> Social media: Mastodon: <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@egallager" class="postlink">@egallager@treehouse.systems</a>, Steam: <a href="https://steamcommunity.com/id/egallager/" class="postlink">egallager</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683740" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683740"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=142846_1626436729.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=142846&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">684</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 18th, 2016, 6:14 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Yes</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683740"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683740&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683740">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683740&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683740&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683740" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-08T10:37:48+00:00">September 8th, 2023, 10:37 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683733&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683733"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">egallager</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683733&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683733" data-post-id="683733" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 8th, 2023, 3:35 am</span></cite> Yeah I was thinking of doing something like this; what I really wish is that the preprocessor had some sort of looping construct so that I could do something like: <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>#for NUM in seq 1 12 do #define TEG_UMC{NUM}_MUSIC SONG {TEG_MUSIC_UMC_TEMPLATE {SONG} BOOK_NUM={NUM}} #enddef #endfor </code></pre></div> ...but the additional complexity that would require introducing into the preprocessor probably wouldn't be worth it...</div></blockquote> Heh, I've had exactly the same thought and come to the same conclusion <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <br> So: listen through music books 4-11 (and maybe in time other UMC music resources as well I assume, e.g. <em class="text-italics">West's Chronicles</em>?).<br> Then assign them to at least one of the TEG moods:<br> <ul> <li>Battle</li> <li>Epic</li> <li>Calm</li> <li>Underground</li> <li>Sad</li> <li>Normal</li> <li>Creepy</li> <li>CUE music categories/moods:<ul> <li>Doom (=defeat)</li> <li>Elves</li></ul></li></ul> I assume you also would like appropriate music added to the CUE moods/categories (<em class="text-italics">Doom</em>, <em class="text-italics">Elves</em>)?<br> <br> Hopefully I'll get chance to listen to at least a couple of books this weekend.<br> <br> Cheers!<br> -- Spannerbag</div> <div id="sig683740" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">SP Campaigns: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51134" class="postlink">After EI</a> (v1.14) Leafsea Burning (<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57504" class="postlink">v1.18</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=685921#p685921" class="postlink">v1.16</a>)<br> <em class="text-italics">I suspect the universe is simpler than we think and stranger than we can know.<br> Also, I fear that beyond a certain point more intelligence does not necessarily benefit a species...</em></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683761" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683761"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=142846_1626436729.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=142846&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">684</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 18th, 2016, 6:14 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Yes</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683761"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683761&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683761">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks: UMCBook4</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683761&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683761&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683761" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-10T12:13:33+00:00">September 10th, 2023, 12:13 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">OK, here's my thoughts on book4.<br> <br> A "?" means I'm confident but not certain the track works for that mood.<br> <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>Track Mood(s) Comment Battalions.ogg Normal Fairly sedate Battle_Hymn_of_Wesnoth.ogg Normal,Underground? Difficult to classify; mix of quiet+calm & louder+lively BattleLoop.ogg Battle <30 seconds Broken_Truth.ogg Underground death_march.ogg Sad Not *that* sad, but IMHO best fit to available moods Elfs.ogg Calm, CUE_ELVES Enchanted_Forest.ogg Calm Everlasting_Night.ogg Battle Long, slowish intro then lively. Not calm, sad or creepy IMHO. 4+ mins FranticSketch.ogg Battle HeroDead.ogg Sad <40 seconds Peaceful.ogg Calm tekkno-03.ogg Creepy Very difficult to classify, least inappropriate mood chosen IMHO. 4+ mins Victorious.ogg Normal <40 seconds War_Glory.ogg Battle, Normal? <50 seconds</code></pre></div> Is it work having a <code class="inline-code">MOOD_UNCLASSIFIED</code> or <code class="inline-code">MOOD_MISC</code> for tunes that simply don't obviously fit into any other mood?<br> I found <em class="text-italics">tekkno-03.ogg</em> particularly difficult to classify.<br> <br> Also some tracks are very short, would you want a separate (sub?) mood for these?<br> (I'm thinking as there's an 8 second gap between tracks and some of these are well under a minute is it worth including them?).<br> <br> Please let me know if this sort of feedback works for you (or not) and once I have a format that works for you I'll do some more as time permits.<br> <br> Cheers!<br> -- Spannerbag</div> <div id="sig683761" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">SP Campaigns: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51134" class="postlink">After EI</a> (v1.14) Leafsea Burning (<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57504" class="postlink">v1.18</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=685921#p685921" class="postlink">v1.16</a>)<br> <em class="text-italics">I suspect the universe is simpler than we think and stranger than we can know.<br> Also, I fear that beyond a certain point more intelligence does not necessarily benefit a species...</em></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683769" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683769"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139737&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=139737_1520531418.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139737&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">nemaara</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Inactive Developer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=139737&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">354</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 31st, 2015, 2:13 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683769"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683769">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683769" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139737&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" style="color: #AA4444;" class="username-coloured">nemaara</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-11T17:46:52+00:00">September 11th, 2023, 5:46 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I need to go back and look at some of these, but I don't remember all being suitable for mainline. There's some that would work, perhaps we could include them in campaigns. 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There's some that would work, perhaps we could include them in campaigns. We also would need to check licensing too. </div></blockquote> Hi,<br> Just to clarify: the additional music I'm helping egallager with are for inclusion in UMC <em class="text-italics">The Earth's Gut</em>, not mainline.<br> <br> FWIW I only think the most popular (i.e. most widely used in UMC) and "best fit" tracks should be added to mainline; certainly not all of the additional music... what are your thoughts on how many additional tracks (if any) could/should be added?<br> <br> Cheers!<br> -- Spannerbag</div> <div id="sig683789" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">SP Campaigns: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51134" class="postlink">After EI</a> (v1.14) Leafsea Burning (<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57504" class="postlink">v1.18</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=685921#p685921" class="postlink">v1.16</a>)<br> <em class="text-italics">I suspect the universe is simpler than we think and stranger than we can know.<br> Also, I fear that beyond a certain point more intelligence does not necessarily benefit a species...</em></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683795" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683795"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img src="//secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f5f7b5b83330e07f530e15906f8082dc?s=100" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">egallager</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=219741&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">636</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> November 19th, 2020, 7:27 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Concord, New Hampshire</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact egallager"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact egallager</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="http://twitter.com/cooljeanius" title="Twitter"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_twitter-icon">Twitter</span> </a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtE_V52yy8_4j5ld_0UHHdw" title="YouTube" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_youtube-icon">YouTube</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683795"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683795">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683795" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">egallager</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-13T16:03:09+00:00">September 13th, 2023, 4:03 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683769"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139737&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">nemaara</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683769" data-post-id="683769" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 11th, 2023, 5:46 pm</span></cite> I need to go back and look at some of these, but I don't remember all being suitable for mainline. There's some that would work, perhaps we could include them in campaigns. We also would need to check licensing too. </div></blockquote>Didn't Pent check the licensing when creating the UMC Music Book add-ons?<br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683789&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683789"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">Spannerbag</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683789&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683789" data-post-id="683789" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 12th, 2023, 10:28 pm</span></cite> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683769"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=139737&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">nemaara</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683769&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683769" data-post-id="683769" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 11th, 2023, 5:46 pm</span></cite> I need to go back and look at some of these, but I don't remember all being suitable for mainline. There's some that would work, perhaps we could include them in campaigns. We also would need to check licensing too. </div></blockquote> Hi,<br> Just to clarify: the additional music I'm helping egallager with are for inclusion in UMC <em class="text-italics">The Earth's Gut</em>, not mainline.</div></blockquote> Well, <em class="text-italics">now</em> that's what we're doing; I originally intended this thread to be about inclusion in mainline, though. Maybe we could move the TEG discussion to a separate thread, since that's kind of a tangent? (I'm busy this week and haven't had much of a chance to do much Wesnoth stuff) <blockquote class="uncited"><div> FWIW I only think the most popular (i.e. most widely used in UMC) and "best fit" tracks should be added to mainline; certainly not all of the additional music... what are your thoughts on how many additional tracks (if any) could/should be added?<br> <br> Cheers!<br> -- Spannerbag </div></blockquote> I think anything that's been copied between 6 or more add-ons is probably good for inclusion; the ones that are just in 5 are probably borderline... (see original post)</div> <div id="sig683795" class="signature">Wesnoth-related GitHub repos:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/wesnoth_mods" class="postlink">General mods collection</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye_Easy_Edition" class="postlink"><acronym title="Son of the Black Eye Easy Edition">SotBEEE</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Two_Brothers_With_A_Third_Difficulty" class="postlink"><acronym title="A Tale of Two Brothers With a Third Difficulty">AToTBWaTD</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut" class="postlink">The Earth's Gut</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_Little_Adventure" class="postlink">A Little Adventure</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Flight_Freedom" class="postlink"><acronym title="Flight to Freedom">FtF</acronym></a><br> Social media: Mastodon: <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@egallager" class="postlink">@egallager@treehouse.systems</a>, Steam: <a href="https://steamcommunity.com/id/egallager/" class="postlink">egallager</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683810" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683810"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=142846_1626436729.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=142846&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">684</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 18th, 2016, 6:14 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Yes</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683810"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683810&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683810">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=683810&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683810&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683810" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Spannerbag</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2023-09-14T15:57:15+00:00">September 14th, 2023, 3:57 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683795"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">egallager</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683795" data-post-id="683795" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 13th, 2023, 4:03 pm</span></cite> ...Well, <em class="text-italics">now</em> that's what we're doing; I originally intended this thread to be about inclusion in mainline, though. Maybe we could move the TEG discussion to a separate thread, since that's kind of a tangent? (I'm busy this week and haven't had much of a chance to do much Wesnoth stuff)</div></blockquote> Yeah, I think TEG should be a separate thread to avoid consufion.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683795"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219741&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">egallager</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683795&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683795" data-post-id="683795" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 13th, 2023, 4:03 pm</span></cite> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=683789&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683789"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">Spannerbag</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683789&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683789" data-post-id="683789" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 12th, 2023, 10:28 pm</span></cite> ...what are your thoughts on how many additional tracks (if any) could/should be added?</div></blockquote> I think anything that's been copied between 6 or more add-ons is probably good for inclusion; the ones that are just in 5 are probably borderline... (see original post) </div></blockquote> Sounds like a plan, be interesting to see which and how many tracks pass muster.<br> Assuming you're happy with my review of Music Book IV I'll move on to V, hopefully get at least one done this w/e.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> -- Spannerbag</div> <div id="sig683810" class="signature"><span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%">SP Campaigns: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51134" class="postlink">After EI</a> (v1.14) Leafsea Burning (<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57504" class="postlink">v1.18</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=685921#p685921" class="postlink">v1.16</a>)<br> <em class="text-italics">I suspect the universe is simpler than we think and stranger than we can know.<br> Also, I fear that beyond a certain point more intelligence does not necessarily benefit a species...</em></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i 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href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=142846&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">Spannerbag</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683789&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p683789" data-post-id="683789" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">September 12th, 2023, 10:28 pm</span></cite> ...what are your thoughts on how many additional tracks (if any) could/should be added?</div></blockquote> I think anything that's been copied between 6 or more add-ons is probably good for inclusion; the ones that are just in 5 are probably borderline... (see original post) </div></blockquote> Sounds like a plan, be interesting to see which and how many tracks pass muster. </div></blockquote> Well, I already listed them in the original post in this thread... <blockquote class="uncited"><div> Assuming you're happy with my review of Music Book IV I'll move on to V, hopefully get at least one done this w/e.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> -- Spannerbag </div></blockquote> I made a separate thread for that: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57225" class="postlink">https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57225</a></div> <div id="sig683838" class="signature">Wesnoth-related GitHub repos:<br> <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/wesnoth_mods" class="postlink">General mods collection</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye_Easy_Edition" class="postlink"><acronym title="Son of the Black Eye Easy Edition">SotBEEE</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Two_Brothers_With_A_Third_Difficulty" class="postlink"><acronym title="A Tale of Two Brothers With a Third Difficulty">AToTBWaTD</acronym></a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/The_Earths_Gut" class="postlink">The Earth's Gut</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_Little_Adventure" class="postlink">A Little Adventure</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cooljeanius/Flight_Freedom" class="postlink"><acronym title="Flight to Freedom">FtF</acronym></a><br> Social media: Mastodon: <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@egallager" class="postlink">@egallager@treehouse.systems</a>, Steam: <a href="https://steamcommunity.com/id/egallager/" class="postlink">egallager</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p692444" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile692444"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=255560&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=255560_1675593497.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=255560&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Gothyoba</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=255560&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">109</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 11th, 2022, 11:20 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Somewhere along the Multiverse, possibly on Earth</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content692444"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=692444&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p692444">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=692444&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=692444&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p692444" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=255560&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">Gothyoba</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-08-12T20:09:18+00:00">August 12th, 2024, 8:09 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Is this proposing these songs to be added to mainline? I’m slightly unsure and confused if this is the correct thread to post about this. I would propose to go through the entirety of the UMC Music Books to search for good music, not music in a certain number of add-ons. A lot of it is great music despite not being represented in a lot of UMC. I’ve been going thorught he msuic books and think a lot of these songs fit very well into the current soundtrack, such as Lonely Snowfall and the Gathering Storm.<br> <br> On the other hand, some of this music, like One Thousand Suns, doesn’t well fit into mainline IMO. It could be added as an unused track in mainline only for UMC, but I find that to be a waste of space. Isn’t that what the UMC Music Books are for? I suppose adding music that is in a lot of add-ons is better for add-on creators, but it misses out on a lot good music to improve, vary and expand on the soundtrack.<br> <br> However, I’m not a musician so I wouldn’t be so sure. I personally support adding some of some songs mentioned here like Enchanted Forest, exploration, Climactic Comtemplation and especially Dark Passage. Generally, I support expanding this game’s soundtrack and adding more popular UMC and would like this idea to start getting more interest.</div> <div id="sig692444" class="signature">Whitefang Orc</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p692445" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile692445"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=144119&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=144119_1516260928.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=144119&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">holypaladin</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=144119&sr=posts&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b">377</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 14th, 2017, 9:07 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Poland</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content692445"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=692445&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p692445">Re: Mainlining popular UMC tracks</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=692445&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=692445&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b#p692445" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=144119&sid=41cdda24f5e3edaf445c8f20ec62c15b" class="username">holypaladin</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-08-12T20:26:25+00:00">August 12th, 2024, 8:26 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote class="uncited"><div> I personally support adding some of some songs mentioned here like Enchanted Forest, exploration, Climactic Comtemplation and especially Dark Passage. Generally, I support expanding this game’s soundtrack and adding more popular UMC and would like this idea to start getting more interest.</div></blockquote> That's what lately I was thinking to post. I thought about some music, surely Enchanted Forest, City of Dwarves, Flight of the Drakes, Notherners Old (nostalgy <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif" width="28" height="15" alt=":whistle:" title="Whistle"> ) or Everlasting Night. 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