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<dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211128&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">xer</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=211128&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">9</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 13th, 2020, 12:10 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689276"> <h3 class="first"> <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689276&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689276">Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689276&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689276&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689276" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211128&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">xer</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-02T03:43:22+00:00">May 2nd, 2024, 3:43 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Following the call for mainline art, I decided to try my best and make a custom Melbrin for <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58159" class="postlink">the (Revised) South Guard </a> campaign. In this thread I'd like to gather some feedback/ideas on how to improve his design.<br> <br> But first I need to address the question some will have: IF he should be improved or if he should just be a generic lich. It's a fair question, after all he only appears in one scenario in one campaign.<br> <br> I do however believe that the campaign benefits from a custom Melbrin. I always found it a bit strange <div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px"><div class="quotetitle" style="vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block"><strong>Spoiler:</strong> <input class="button1" style="font-size:0.8em" type="button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; this.innerText = ''; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; this.innerText = ''; }"></div><div class="quotecontent" style="display:none"> how you set out to visit a powerful elf and he suddenly he turns from "not home" into "ancient lich". Both in-universe and in player-experienced time it feels rushed. I'm no lore expert but I always imagined turning into a lich to be a slow process, gradually corrupting and consuming you and not an instant "they made me try black magic and now I'm an ancient lich". I feel he needs to exist somewhere between elf and lich to fit the story. </div></div> Let me know if you disagree.<br> <br> If he deserves a custom sprite, then only appearing briefly is still no excuse for a bad sprite. This is the initial version that was briefly included in the campaign:<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97368&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="MBrin009-RC-magenta-5-black.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>MBrin009-RC-magenta-5-black.png (3.66 KiB) Viewed 2640 times</dd> </dl> </div> <br> Several people have expressed that I've missed the mark, and I can see why. Without a new portrait he just looks like he's 2 completely different characters. Luckily, in my first drafts I was trying to match the portrait as much as possible, and only attempted to make him more elvish over time. Here is a version with a previous head, more faithful colors, and 4 pixels less waist diameter:<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97366&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="MBrin010-RC-magenta-5-black.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>MBrin010-RC-magenta-5-black.png (3.5 KiB) Viewed 2640 times</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="thumbnail"> <dt><a href="./download/file.php?id=97367&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2&mode=view"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97367&t=1&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="Screenshot (2801).png" title="Screenshot (2801).png (652.33 KiB) Viewed 2640 times" /></a></dt> </dl> </div> Maybe that's a better starting point for a discussion.<br> <br> Ideas that I currently have are<br> - darker, equally desaturated colors for the skin<br> - just using the default lich-staff instead of an elven-inspired one<br> - starve a few more pixels out of his waist.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689290" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689290"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=113928_1671328089.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Project Manager</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=113928&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">5679</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 22nd, 2009, 10:50 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Earth (occasionally)</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689290"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689290&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689290">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689290&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689290&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689290" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-02T14:12:45+00:00">May 2nd, 2024, 2:12 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">The skull is definitely what threw me off - it definitely looks better/clearer with the whiter color. The staff being more elven makes sense though, I'd say.</div> <div id="sig689290" class="signature">99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs<br> take one down, patch it around<br> -2,147,483,648 little bugs in the code</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689293" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689293"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108426&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=108426_1259472741.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108426&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Mirion147</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=108426&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">999</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 14th, 2008, 12:52 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689293"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689293&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689293">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689293&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689293&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689293" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108426&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Mirion147</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-02T16:17:11+00:00">May 2nd, 2024, 4:17 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">So, right now it does look like he's got a pretty good gut going on. I get him having loose and baggy clothes, especially since he may not have a lot for the clothes to form around, but you may want to put a few holes in the fabric where you could showcase a ribcage, or leg bone.<br> <br> Also, is there no TC? Or is the tc black? <br> <br> In fevers i think it's a pretty good sprite, and having the first elven lich have its own sprite isn't a bad plan. I think it just needs to look a but more undead and not old man. The color change is definitely a step in the right direction</div> <div id="sig689293" class="signature">Take a look at the <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=26153" class="postlink">Era of the Future!</a><br> Current factions: The Welkin, The Brungar, and The Nordhris!<br> ^This is old news lol but I don't care^<br> New news -> <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=53176" class="postlink"> Up the River Bork Campaign!</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689378" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689378"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211128&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">xer</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=211128&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">9</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 13th, 2020, 12:10 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689378"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689378&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689378">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689378&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689378&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689378" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211128&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">xer</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-03T20:46:41+00:00">May 3rd, 2024, 8:46 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=689293&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689293"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108426&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">Mirion147</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689293&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689293" data-post-id="689293" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">May 2nd, 2024, 4:17 pm</span></cite> Also, is there no TC? Or is the tc black? </div></blockquote> Yea, he's on the black team.<br> <br> I tried the ribcage idea, but he has lost so much weight trying to conform with the impossible beauty standards for liches that there's not enough space left for me to convincingly pull it off. I did make his head as dark and skeletal as I could now though.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97385&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="MBrin013-RC-magenta-5-black.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>MBrin013-RC-magenta-5-black.png (3.47 KiB) Viewed 2458 times</dd> </dl> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689386" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689386"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=271897&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">62</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 29th, 2024, 10:50 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689386"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689386&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689386">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689386&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689386&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689386" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-04T04:16:53+00:00">May 4th, 2024, 4:16 am</time> </p> <div class="content">He matches the portrait quite well now, though the bones and hair could be even darker, they appear almost black in the image. Thinner ist definitely better.<br> <br> The problem is, the portrait doesn't really match Mal M'brin that well. Looks more like an old human corpse than a fresh elven lich. He would work well with a more mummified Look and elven ears.<br> <br> Though any of your versions is better than the generic ancient lich.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689387" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689387"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=271897&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">62</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 29th, 2024, 10:50 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689387"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689387&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689387">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689387&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689387&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689387" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-04T04:25:23+00:00">May 4th, 2024, 4:25 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><a href="https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9m65BQ" class="postlink">https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9m65BQ</a> <div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px"><div class="quotetitle" style="vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block"><strong>Spoiler:</strong> <input class="button1" style="font-size:0.8em" type="button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = ''; 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I don't remember the character enough to say what should be emphasized, but if it is supposed to be menacing, I'd make the torso:limb length ratio smaller, make the robes hang straight down and put the chest/stomach in shadow.<br> <br> If you want to make it look more elf-like, don't be afraid to lift and recolor some part of an existing elf sprite - the sprites are icons as much as they are little digital dolls, so having recognizable patterns could be good. No guarantees, it could just end up looking frankensteined, but it is something to try.</div> <div id="sig689409" class="signature"><span style="font-size:70%;line-height:116%">BfW 1.12 supported, but active development only for BfW 1.13/1.14: <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31348" class="postlink">Bad Moon Rising</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31632" class="postlink">Trinity</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27740" class="postlink">Archaic Era</a></strong> |<br> | Abandoned: <a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=514347#p514347" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration:line-through">Tales of the Setting Sun</span></a><br> </span><a href="https://github.com/doofus-01" class="postlink">GitHub link for these projects</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689832" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689832"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211128&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">xer</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=211128&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">9</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 13th, 2020, 12:10 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689832"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689832&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689832">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689832&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689832&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689832" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211128&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">xer</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-15T15:56:35+00:00">May 15th, 2024, 3:56 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=689386&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689386"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">Duke_Anax</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689386&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689386" data-post-id="689386" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">May 4th, 2024, 4:16 am</span></cite> The problem is, the portrait doesn't really match Mal M'brin that well. Looks more like an old human corpse than a fresh elven lich. He would work well with a more mummified Look and elven ears. </div></blockquote> You're right, if his portrait looked more like the one you sent, it would match the story much better. Sadly I can't draw him a better portrait. I can make some edits to the existing portrait to match the sprite better though!<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97468&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="mal-mbrin-portrait-03.webp" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>mal-mbrin-portrait-03.webp (92.85 KiB) Viewed 2220 times</dd> </dl> </div> <br> He's not really supposed to be menacing. He is a menace to the people of Wesnoth of course, but he mainly stands out for his relation to the protagonists. He's the former mentor of the elf, and the guy the party set out to ask for help against the lich from. Hence why my initial versions were more alive, the guy isn't even really (un)dead yet.<br> <br> The elves don't have that many iconic elements that fit for this character and remain recognizable when recolored. I also added this elvish loincloth thing now, but with that I feel I've exhausted the existing elven elements.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97469&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="MBrin19-RC-magenta-5-black.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>MBrin19-RC-magenta-5-black.png (3.53 KiB) Viewed 2220 times</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="thumbnail"> <dt><a href="./download/file.php?id=97470&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2&mode=view"><img src="./download/file.php?id=97470&t=1&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="postimage" alt="Screenshot (2811).png" title="Screenshot (2811).png (601.22 KiB) Viewed 2220 times" /></a></dt> </dl> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689963" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689963"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=256327_1717929531.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">DuncanDill</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=256327&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">139</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 30th, 2022, 11:57 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Knagla, the evil twin sister of Knalga...</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689963"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689963">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689963" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">DuncanDill</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-18T14:44:53+00:00">May 18th, 2024, 2:44 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Haha! You seem to have missed out a rather iconic elf feature, the ears! If I understand right this is more like a mummy than a skeleton, so it might make sense for him to have one broken ear?</div> <div id="sig689963" class="signature"><a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573</a> Curent Maintainer of Talentless Mage<br> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462</a> Gaze at my art :D</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689977" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689977"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=271897&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">62</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 29th, 2024, 10:50 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689977"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689977&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689977">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689977&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689977&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689977" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-18T17:35:30+00:00">May 18th, 2024, 5:35 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689963"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">DuncanDill</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689963" data-post-id="689963" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">May 18th, 2024, 2:44 pm</span></cite> Haha! You seem to have missed out a rather iconic elf feature, the ears! If I understand right this is more like a mummy than a skeleton, so it might make sense for him to have one broken ear? </div></blockquote> Well, the problem is this portrait wasn't intended for him, just some available art used as a placeholder. The best case would be if someone drew a new portrait.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689979" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689979"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=144119&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=144119_1516260928.png" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=144119&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">holypaladin</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=144119&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">379</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 14th, 2017, 9:07 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Poland</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689979"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689979&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689979">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689979&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689979&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689979" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=144119&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">holypaladin</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-18T17:40:57+00:00">May 18th, 2024, 5:40 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689963"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">DuncanDill</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689963&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689963" data-post-id="689963" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">May 18th, 2024, 2:44 pm</span></cite> Haha! You seem to have missed out a rather iconic elf feature, the ears! If I understand right this is more like a mummy than a skeleton, so it might make sense for him to have one broken ear? </div></blockquote> His ears may be under hair</div> <div id="sig689979" class="signature"><div style="text-align:center">„Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam"</div></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689990" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689990"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=113928_1671328089.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Project Manager</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=113928&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">5679</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 22nd, 2009, 10:50 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Earth (occasionally)</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689990"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689990&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689990">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689990&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689990&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689990" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-19T01:44:53+00:00">May 19th, 2024, 1:44 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Given ears are cartilage rather than bone, it makes sense the ears are gone since the nose is also gone.</div> <div id="sig689990" class="signature">99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs<br> take one down, patch it around<br> -2,147,483,648 little bugs in the code</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689996" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689996"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=256327_1717929531.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">DuncanDill</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=256327&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">139</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 30th, 2022, 11:57 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Knagla, the evil twin sister of Knalga...</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689996"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689996&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689996">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689996&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689996&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689996" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">DuncanDill</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-19T10:02:02+00:00">May 19th, 2024, 10:02 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Just to ask, wouldn't the hair also be gone if that were the case? I see no reason that ears wouldn't stay, I mean, Wesnoth is fantasy after all! It would probably make him more recognizable as an elf... Not trying to enforce anything tho</div> <div id="sig689996" class="signature"><a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573</a> Curent Maintainer of Talentless Mage<br> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462</a> Gaze at my art :D</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p689999" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile689999"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=271897&sr=posts&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2">62</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 29th, 2024, 10:50 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content689999"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=689999&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689999">Re: Melbrin (Mal M'Brin)</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=689999&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=689999&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2#p689999" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=271897&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="username">Duke_Anax</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-05-19T12:28:42+00:00">May 19th, 2024, 12:28 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">An elven skeleton wouldn't look much different from a human skeleton, maybe just as much as a Neanderthal, certainly less than a gorilla.<br> <br> However, Mal M'Brin is a fresh lich; he wouldn't have reached that stage yet. So having a portrait and sprite with a nose and ears would actually suit him better.<br> <br> There is also an argument to be made that Liches never fully skeletonise, but stay partly mummified like this:<br> <img src="https://cdn.artec3d.com/content-hub-images/3d_models/hand_0.png?VersionId=JDSjyZ4cDK_PlpNbqL7gN8cPjkDgxIY." class="postimage" alt="Image"><br> <br> Also, Hair and nails are keratin, they don't decompose like cartilage and are present on old skeletons.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./posting.php?mode=reply&t=58168&sid=e2971811c9c6696f0d22463612296ea2" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" 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