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type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"/></form></div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_formula" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_formula-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_formula-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z"></span>New formula<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_formula-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: New formula"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nowyouseeme-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z-New_formula"></span>Per the RIAA website link <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=new-combined-GP">here</a>- </p><p>Units are now defined as follows: </p> <ul><li>Each permanent digital download counts as 1 Unit for certification purposes.</li> <li>100 on-demand audio and/or video streams will count as 1 Unit for certification purposes.</li></ul> <p>Gold – 500,000 Units (For example, this means a Gold certification can now be earned by selling 500,000 permanent downloads, or some lesser number of permanent downloads plus achieving a certain number of on-demand streams, over the lifetime of a song) Platinum – 1,000,000 Units Multi-Platinum – 2,000,000 Units (increments of 1,000,000 thereafter) <span style="font-family:'tahoma bold',serif;border:1px solid Black;"><a href="/wiki/User:Nowyouseeme" title="User:Nowyouseeme"><span style="color:Black;background:#87CEEB;"><b>NYSM</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nowyouseeme" title="User talk:Nowyouseeme"><span style="background:Black;color:#87CEEB;">y talk page</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Nowyouseeme-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z-New_formula" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nowyouseeme-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z-New_formula"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nowyouseeme-2013-05-10T22:18:00.000Z-New_formula"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Controversy_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Controversy_section-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Controversy_section-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Controversy section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Controversy_section-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Controversy section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-197.88.26.12-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z-Controversy_section"></span>This article needs to show RIAA controversy, as well as how the RIAA is not a <b>final</b> statement. </p><p>Some examples: </p><p>1)Here's an excerpt from a book: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=3EAGAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT289&lpg=PT289&dq=%22buddy+holly%22+%22Ten+million%22&source=bl&ots=XSiOL-vKr9&sig=D09xMBEP_YMHcZedHlGwrWlV1lY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Vq07VaryFM3Q7Abl2oHYDw&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22buddy%20holly%22%20%22Ten%20million%22&f=false">https://books.google.com/books?id=3EAGAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT289&lpg=PT289&dq=%22buddy+holly%22+%22Ten+million%22&source=bl&ots=XSiOL-vKr9&sig=D09xMBEP_YMHcZedHlGwrWlV1lY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Vq07VaryFM3Q7Abl2oHYDw&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22buddy%20holly%22%20%22Ten%20million%22&f=false</a> </p><p>However: a search of the RIAA site reveals that <a href="/wiki/Buddy_Holly" title="Buddy Holly">Buddy Holly</a>'s only certification is Gold for the Album "the Buddy Holly Story:. </p><p>2)Another obvious and much-repeated example: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.odt.co.nz/entertainment/music/228919/gloriously-indulgent-orgy-iron-butterfly">http://www.odt.co.nz/entertainment/music/228919/gloriously-indulgent-orgy-iron-butterfly</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/dorman-381477-bass-butterfly.html">http://www.ocregister.com/articles/dorman-381477-bass-butterfly.html</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.today.com/news/iron-butterfly-bassist-dies-70-1C7704497">http://www.today.com/news/iron-butterfly-bassist-dies-70-1C7704497</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/iron-butterfly-bassist-lee-dorman-dead-at-70-20121222">http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/iron-butterfly-bassist-lee-dorman-dead-at-70-20121222</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/12/22/iron-butterfly-bassist-lee-dorman-dies-at-age-70/">http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/12/22/iron-butterfly-bassist-lee-dorman-dies-at-age-70/</a> </p><p>The RIAA meanwhile, have certified it as "quadruple platinum"(ie. more than 4 million, but fewer than 5 million) </p><p>Intriguingly, Billboard says: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20080116110003/http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/yearend_chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&g=Year-end+Albums&year=1969">http://web.archive.org/web/20080116110003/http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/yearend_chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&g=Year-end+Albums&year=1969</a> </p><p>While, the number 5 album has subsequently been certified as 8xplatinum. </p><p>Eight million is of course what IAGDV sold in less than one year, <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/220748/Iron-Butterfly-In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida/overview">http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/220748/Iron-Butterfly-In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida/overview</a> </p><p>...but not according to the RIAA. </p><p>RIAA certification is not the beginning and end, nor is it even representative. This article needs to reflect that. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/197.88.26.12" title="Special:Contributions/197.88.26.12">197.88.26.12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:197.88.26.12" title="User talk:197.88.26.12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-197.88.26.12-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z-Controversy_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 25 April 2015 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-197.88.26.12-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z-Controversy_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-197.88.26.12-2015-04-25T15:19:00.000Z-Controversy_section"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd" data-mw-thread-id="h-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z"><span id="elton_john.2Fgoodbye_yellow_brick_rd"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z"></span>elton john/goodbye yellow brick rd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: elton john/goodbye yellow brick rd"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-202.180.118.24-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd"></span>WHY IS IT THAT ELTONS GBYR IS NOT CREDITED WITH 16 X PLATINUM WHEN THE RIAA OWN RULES STATE THAT EACH DISC COUNTS TOWARDS ITS TOTAL BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GBYR IT DOES NOT HAPPEN, AND WHY DOES THE LION KING SOUNDTRACK NOT CREDITED TO EJ WHEN HE SINGS THE ONLY SONGS ON THE ABLUM WHEN IT SEEMS ANYBODY ELSE E.G. THE BEEGEES/WITNEY HOUSTON YOU EITHER SHARE THE ALBUM WITH OTHER ARTISTS WHO SING THERE OWN SONGS OR DONT EVEN WRITE ANY SONGS ON THESE SOUNTRACKS YET GET THE SALES CREDITS YET ELTON WRITES AND SINGS ALL THE SONGS WITH TIM RICE ON THE LION KING YET CANNOT GET ANY CERDIT FOR ANYTHING<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.180.118.24" title="Special:Contributions/202.180.118.24">202.180.118.24</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:202.180.118.24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:202.180.118.24 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-202.180.118.24-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-202.180.118.24-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-202.180.118.24-2015-07-13T05:02:00.000Z-elton_john/goodbye_yellow_brick_rd"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Update" data-mw-thread-id="h-Update-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Update-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Update<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Update-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Update"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z-Update"></span>Could someone update section Artists with the most certifications of Gold, Platinum and Multi-Platinum singles? It's really out of date... <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/178.36.34.143" title="Special:Contributions/178.36.34.143">178.36.34.143</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.36.34.143&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:178.36.34.143 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z-Update" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z-Update"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z-Update"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-47.148.193.92-20221115065300-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Post Malone has 4 diamond awards. Surprised that he's not even listed. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=Post+Malone+#search_section">https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=Post+Malone+#search_section</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.148.193.92" title="Special:Contributions/47.148.193.92">47.148.193.92</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:47.148.193.92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:47.148.193.92 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-47.148.193.92-20221115065300-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 15 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-47.148.193.92-20221115065300-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-47.148.193.92-20221115065300-178.36.34.143-2015-09-22T13:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z"></span>Physical Singles vs Digital Singles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Physical Singles vs Digital Singles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-85.138.96.199-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles"></span>Shouldn't Physical and digital singles be put separated. The table could be the same but shouldn't they be noted which type are they. </p><p>I'm only saying this because there are very few multi-platinum singles (Physical) and zero diamond. As the market collapsed the rules for downloads and streaming changed in order to show the current market but in the past couple of years there are more than 10 diamond singles and thousands of multi-platinum singles. It's not fair to compare 3-5$ singles (or in some cases 8-10$ maxi-singles) to 0.99 downloads or 100 streams that cost even less. It's quite easier for an artist to have a multi-platinum single or a diamond single (as before never a single sold enough to be diamond, though the market is now 90% down). <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.138.96.199" title="Special:Contributions/85.138.96.199">85.138.96.199</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:85.138.96.199" title="User talk:85.138.96.199">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-85.138.96.199-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-85.138.96.199-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-85.138.96.199-2015-12-02T10:00:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:18:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles"></span> Thats correct </p><p>in 1999 artists got GOLD 500,000 sold singles an reached for sure top 10 of the Hot 100 </p><p>nowadays there are singles which reach top 100 barely but get gold </p><p>Nowadays i can buy a single for 99cents via amazon or iTunes in 1999 i had to buy the whole cd single for 8,99 $ <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.247.240.127" title="Special:Contributions/2.247.240.127">2.247.240.127</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.247.240.127&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2.247.240.127 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:18:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:18:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:18:00.000Z-Physical_Singles_vs_Digital_Singles"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Section_headings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Section_headings-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Section_headings-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z"></span>Section headings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Section_headings-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Section headings"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dcljr-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z-Section_headings"></span>I've just <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=701336159">changed the section headings</a></span> for the "most certifications" tables. The old titles were unreasonably long and included "as of" dates, which only encourage broken incoming links (when the dates are changed, as happened with the albums table) and/or false information (when the dates are not changed but the content is updated, as happened with the singles table). Also, the albums table now includes Diamond info, but its section heading didn't reflect this fact. The new, simplified headings should be easier to maintain (i.e., shouldn't need changing) in the future. If someone doesn't like my choice(s) of headings, be sure to consider these issues when choosing different names. Oh, and I included <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Anchor" title="Template:Anchor">anchor</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>s with old section titles for the albums table that were used here for 2 years or more (because incoming links are more likely to exist for those section titles); this was necessary for the singles table, but not the albums table (no title for that section lasted longer than 18 months or so). - <a href="/wiki/User:Dcljr" title="User:Dcljr">dcljr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dcljr" title="User talk:Dcljr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Dcljr-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z-Section_headings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dcljr-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z-Section_headings"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dcljr-2016-01-23T23:19:00.000Z-Section_headings"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications" data-mw-thread-id="h-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z"></span>Verification of RIAA Certifications<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Verification of RIAA Certifications"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications"></span>This page seems to have limited information pertaining to verification of RIAA certifications. A quick search of the Web yielded almost no results germane to this topic. Does anyone have and/or know where to find further information? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:InTheCurve&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:InTheCurve (page does not exist)">InTheCurve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InTheCurve" title="User talk:InTheCurve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a>InTheCurve<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z-Verification_of_RIAA_Certifications"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z"></span>The process is explained at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/apply/">http://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/apply/</a> . <a href="/wiki/User:Piriczki" title="User:Piriczki">Piriczki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piriczki" title="User talk:Piriczki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T03:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z"></span>I read through all of the relevant material on the RIAA site and gave a scan of the website of their third-party verification entity (Gelfand, Rennert & Feldman, LLP; www.grfllp.com). However, I could find no information from the RIAA or the GR&F sites regarding the actual process of aggregating sales data less returns for physical units and/or aggregating digital sales and streams. Essentially, what the RIAA site indicates is that they base their audits on sales data supplied to them by the record label requesting the certification. Does anyone have any information on how the sales data supplied by the record label to the RIAA is monitored and processed? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:InTheCurve&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:InTheCurve (page does not exist)">InTheCurve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InTheCurve" title="User talk:InTheCurve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T12:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z"></span>It's called <a href="/wiki/Accounting" title="Accounting">accounting</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Piriczki" title="User:Piriczki">Piriczki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piriczki" title="User talk:Piriczki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T14:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Certainly! Yet, there is honest accounting and there is dishonest accounting. I'm wondering if anyone has information on existing measures in place by the RIAA and/or a third party to keep dishonest accounting figures from influencing their certifications. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:InTheCurve&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:InTheCurve (page does not exist)">InTheCurve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InTheCurve" title="User talk:InTheCurve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z-Piriczki-2016-02-12T14:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T16:05:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z"></span>"Dishonest accounting" can be subject to civil or criminal penalties by the <a href="/wiki/U.S._Securities_and_Exchange_Commission" title="U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission">U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission</a>, the <a href="/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice" title="United States Department of Justice">United States Department of Justice</a> or a <a href="/wiki/State_attorney_general" title="State attorney general">state attorney general</a>. While the RIAA is a trade organization that promotes the record industry and is of course biased in its desire to issue more and higher record awards, it is unbiased regarding competition between its member companies which is why it goes through an independent auditing process. <a href="/wiki/User:Piriczki" title="User:Piriczki">Piriczki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piriczki" title="User talk:Piriczki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T16:05:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T16:05:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piriczki-2016-02-12T16:05:00.000Z-InTheCurve-2016-02-12T15:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Beatles_1" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Beatles_1-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Beatles_1-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z"></span>The Beatles 1<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Beatles_1-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: The Beatles 1"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z-The_Beatles_1"></span>On the wiki page for The Beatles 1 album it is listed as having sold 12 million copies in the US and thus being certified 12x platinum as opposed to 10x platinum--<a href="/wiki/User:EnderAtreides117" title="User:EnderAtreides117">EnderAtreides117</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EnderAtreides117" title="User talk:EnderAtreides117">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z-The_Beatles_1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z-The_Beatles_1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z-The_Beatles_1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z"></span>I corrected the <a href="/wiki/1_(Beatles_album)" title="1 (Beatles album)">1 (Beatles album)</a> article. Many albums have sold far more copies than their RIAA award indicates. <a href="/wiki/User:Piriczki" title="User:Piriczki">Piriczki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piriczki" title="User talk:Piriczki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 5 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z-EnderAtreides117-2017-04-05T05:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-12.149.115.58-2022-05-02T22:07:00.000Z-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z"></span>The Beatles have a core catalogue consisting of 13 studio albums and one compilation, why are they listed as having 19 albums going plat??? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/12.149.115.58" title="Special:Contributions/12.149.115.58">12.149.115.58</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:12.149.115.58&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:12.149.115.58 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-12.149.115.58-2022-05-02T22:07:00.000Z-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 2 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-12.149.115.58-2022-05-02T22:07:00.000Z-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-12.149.115.58-2022-05-02T22:07:00.000Z-Piriczki-2017-04-05T11:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10" data-mw-thread-id="h-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z"></span>certified SINGLES before DOWNLOAD ERA which did not reach top 10<span data-mw-comment-end="h-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: certified SINGLES before DOWNLOAD ERA which did not reach top 10"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10"></span>there are singles like </p><p><br/> PERSONAL JESUS and i feel you by DEPECHE MODE which sold 500,000 copies but reached only # 28 and # 37 on the hot 100 respectively </p><p>MUSE have several singles which never reached hot 100 but have gold and platinum singles </p><p>STARLIGHT reached #101 on the hot 100 but got PLATINUM FOR 1,000,000 sold singles <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.247.240.127" title="Special:Contributions/2.247.240.127">2.247.240.127</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.247.240.127&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2.247.240.127 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 6 July 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:21:00.000Z-certified_SINGLES_before_DOWNLOAD_ERA_which_did_not_reach_top_10"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="overcertified_albums" data-mw-thread-id="h-overcertified_albums-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-overcertified_albums-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z"></span>overcertified albums<span data-mw-comment-end="h-overcertified_albums-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: overcertified albums"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z-overcertified_albums"></span>there are over certified albums by mariah carey or u2 which got 10xPLATINUM and 8xPLATINUM </p><p>but sold much less </p><p>like MUSIC BOX by carey which sold 6 million copies but got DIAMOND <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.247.240.127" title="Special:Contributions/2.247.240.127">2.247.240.127</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.247.240.127&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2.247.240.127 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z-overcertified_albums" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z-overcertified_albums"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2.247.240.127-2017-07-06T20:23:00.000Z-overcertified_albums"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2017-09-14T18:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2017-09-14T18:50:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2017-09-14T18:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-14T18:50:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified 4 external links on <a href="/wiki/Recording_Industry_Association_of_America_certification" class="mw-redirect" title="Recording Industry Association of America certification">Recording Industry Association of America certification</a>. 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<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bob3458&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bob3458 (page does not exist)">Bob3458</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bob3458" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bob3458">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z-Diamond_albums_and_singles_together" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 7 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z-Diamond_albums_and_singles_together"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z-Diamond_albums_and_singles_together"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-181.203.233.249-20230416010200-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z"></span>i agree 100% <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/181.203.233.249" title="Special:Contributions/181.203.233.249">181.203.233.249</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:181.203.233.249" title="User talk:181.203.233.249">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-181.203.233.249-20230416010200-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-181.203.233.249-20230416010200-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-181.203.233.249-20230416010200-Bob3458-2017-12-07T14:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_17_October_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_17_October_2018-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_17_October_2018-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 17 October 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_17_October_2018-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Requested move 17 October 2018"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ammarpad-2018-10-26T09:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. 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No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>Moved</b> per discussion. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Non-admin_closure" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">non-admin closure</a>)</small> –<a href="/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Ammarpad-2018-10-26T09:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 26 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ammarpad-2018-10-26T09:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ammarpad-2018-10-26T09:10:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><br/> <a href="/wiki/Recording_Industry_Association_of_America_certification" class="mw-redirect" title="Recording Industry Association of America certification"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018"></span>Recording Industry Association of America certification</a> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RIAA_Certification&redirect=no">RIAA Certification</a></span> – I am proposing, rather than taking it upon myself, changing the title of this article to RIAA certification because that’s what it’s more commonly called by media and the general public. Here are some headline examples. <sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> Heck, that’s what they even call themselves! Exhibit A.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> It’s quite obvious what RIAA stands for and that should be left in the lead, but for accessibility (less clunkiness and easier to access “platinum” certifications for those interested) I believe the title should be changed. <a href="/wiki/User:Trillfendi" title="User:Trillfendi">Trillfendi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trillfendi" title="User talk:Trillfendi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 17 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z-Requested_move_17_October_2018"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BD2412-2018-10-18T03:40:00.000Z-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SHORTFORM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SHORTFORM">WP:SHORTFORM</a>. Compare: <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency" title="Central Intelligence Agency">Central Intelligence Agency</a>, but <a href="/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Vietnam" title="CIA activities in Vietnam">CIA activities in Vietnam</a>, <i>not</i> <a href="/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency_activities_in_Vietnam" class="mw-redirect" title="Central Intelligence Agency activities in Vietnam">Central Intelligence Agency activities in Vietnam</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation" title="Federal Bureau of Investigation">Federal Bureau of Investigation</a>, but <a href="/wiki/FBI_files_on_Elvis_Presley" title="FBI files on Elvis Presley">FBI files on Elvis Presley</a>, <i>not</i> <a href="/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation_files_on_Elvis_Presley" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Bureau of Investigation files on Elvis Presley">Federal Bureau of Investigation files on Elvis Presley</a></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-BD2412-2018-10-18T03:40:00.000Z-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 18 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BD2412-2018-10-18T03:40:00.000Z-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BD2412-2018-10-18T03:40:00.000Z-Trillfendi-2018-10-17T22:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8459962/every-single-track-on-kendrick-lamars-damn-has-an-riaa">https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8459962/every-single-track-on-kendrick-lamars-damn-has-an-riaa</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-2">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/garysuarez/2018/05/29/nicki-minaj-chun-li/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/garysuarez/2018/05/29/nicki-minaj-chun-li/</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/apply/">https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/apply/</a></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Untitled" data-mw-thread-id="h-Untitled-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Untitled-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z"></span>Untitled<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Untitled-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Untitled"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>Why is Minaj at the top of the Most Platinum singles list and out of order? Why does Cardi B have 3 listed for Most Diamond certifications when the associated source lists 2? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC">2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RIAA_certification#c-2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:38A0:6550:4869:950A:AFC5:8CBC-2022-02-17T17:26:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&oldid=1210034870">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:RIAA_certification&oldid=1210034870</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_United_States_articles" title="Category:Start-Class United States articles">Start-Class United States articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_United_States_articles" title="Category:Low-importance United States articles">Low-importance United States articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_United_States_articles_of_Low-importance" title="Category:Start-Class United States articles of Low-importance">Start-Class United States articles of Low-importance</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_American_music_articles" title="Category:Start-Class American music articles">Start-Class American music articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_American_music_articles" title="Category:Unknown-importance American music articles">Unknown-importance American music articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_American_music_articles" title="Category:WikiProject American music articles">WikiProject American music articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_United_States_articles" title="Category:WikiProject United States articles">WikiProject United States articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_WikiProject_Business_articles" title="Category:Start-Class WikiProject Business articles">Start-Class WikiProject Business articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_WikiProject_Business_articles" title="Category:Low-importance WikiProject Business articles">Low-importance WikiProject Business articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Business_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Business articles">WikiProject Business articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_Record_Charts_articles" title="Category:Start-Class Record Charts articles">Start-Class Record Charts articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Record_Charts_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Record Charts articles">Mid-importance Record Charts articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Record_Charts_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Record Charts articles">WikiProject Record Charts articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 24 February 2024, at 17:56<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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