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Secondly, the rowspan formatting is also correct. Please read up on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> because you are now <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">edit warring</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Favre1fan93","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z","c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span>I recommend using some common sense when reading new edits and recognizing consistency. I'm sure there are policy pages for these things. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z","c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Duplicate links are unnecessary, especially so close to each other in the table (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> as I keep link for you), and each row does not need it's own cell, when it can be spanned for items that are similar ie all of the "Pilot" introductions for the main cast. - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z","author":"Favre1fan93","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z"></span>Sure, but the merged cells create inconsistencies in such a large table and complex table. The extra links do no harm and infact they make it easier for someone who is only looking at one character or actor.</dd> <dd>The policies you cite are recommendations not mandates. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z"></span>There were no <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">inconsistencies</q>, the table was created to conform to what's recommended by the manual of style, again <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Favre1fan93","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z"></span>The extra links and cell line do no harm and make it easier to follow a complex table. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:49:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"></span>You've now been reported for edit warring so we will wait for that to play out. - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z","author":"Favre1fan93","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T16:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z"></span>Reporting a user for edit warring when you are 5 reverts deep today yourself is likely to get yourself <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOOMERANG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOOMERANG">WP:BOOMERANG</a>'d in the process. <a href="/wiki/User:GabberFlasted" title="User:GabberFlasted">GabberFlasted</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GabberFlasted" title="User talk:GabberFlasted">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z","author":"GabberFlasted","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:11:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Agree with Favre1fan93 that we don't need duplicate links. The rowspan does not need to repeat either when there it makes more sense to span across several rows. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Czello" title="User:Czello"><i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z","author":"Czello","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z"></span>I believe DUPLINKS holds in this situation because the would-be duplicate links are very near each other, formatted the same, etc. The issue of rowspans is more contestable. Usually in a table, a cell spanning multiple rows or columns indicates that there is a connection or comparison to be made there, just as columnspans in this table indicate consecutive and consistent appearances. I am not familiar with this piece of media, so I would ask those of you that know: are these characters that would share the rowspan connected? Partners, coworkers, best friends, etc? If so I think there would be a strong case to connect them. But if the characters are otherwise completely unrelated then I think it would make the most sense to separate the rows. <br/></dd> <dd>TL;DR DUPLINKS is true, but I think unless the characters are connected/related somehow, the rows should be split. <a href="/wiki/User:GabberFlasted" title="User:GabberFlasted">GabberFlasted</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GabberFlasted" title="User talk:GabberFlasted">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z","author":"GabberFlasted","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z-Czello-2022-07-05T17:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z"></span>I was originally going for a line in the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... This area is confusing to look at.</dd> <dd>I added the links because, among other things, they add the value that the internet has ascribed to weblinks. There's no harm to them. They make it no more difficult to read. I was unaware about the policy, but upon reading it I noticed it's a guideline, only. The links aren't going to break Wikipedia, but considering policies mandates rather then recommendations (in a fiction article) might break it. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z-GabberFlasted-2022-07-05T17:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z"></span>p.s. It's self-appointed dictators without common sense that can break Wikipedia.<a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z"></span>I'd urge you to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">WP:NPA</a> before making statements like that. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Czello" title="User:Czello"><i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z","author":"Czello","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czello-2022-07-05T17:44:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-05T17:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span>What issue were these edits supposed to address? Seems like an editor was making random changes because they wanted to without actually improving the article. Splitting the episodes into many rows all with the same link is very unnecessary. - <a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">adamstom97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamstom.97" title="User talk:Adamstom.97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z","author":"Adamstom.97","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z"],"displayName":"adamstom97"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span>I responded to this below>> <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:08:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span> A few things to point out: </p><p>If one reads the policies referenced by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> you'll learn that it applies more to the lead to technical articles then to a fantasy or entertainment based one like this. "...Duplicate linking in stand-alone and embedded lists is permissible if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom." and from <a href="/wiki/Overlinking" title="Overlinking">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Overlinking</a> "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." </p><p>The bigger issue: the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... is confusing to look at. I don't know what policy applies to adding a line there common sense? Table formation? </p><p>I'm sorry if there's too much confusion. These policies can be a bit much, no? I had time to more thoroughly read the policies; wish more people did. Really, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a>:</span> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Czello" title="User:Czello">Czello</a>:</span> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:GabberFlasted" title="User:GabberFlasted">GabberFlasted</a>:</span> the links, are useful and within policy guidelines. My motivation to change it, now, is to point out the previously misconstrued <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> policy. </p><p>Aside that, I think the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... is problematic; confusing or disorienting. That should have another line added. Then for consistency there should be another line added by the episode separating the characters. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">Adamstom.97</a>:</span> Do you have a reply? Reasoning would be more useful then clicking "undo"; I know it can be hard. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T18:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z"></span>You're skating on thin ice by re-reverting your changes in the middle of a discussion after just being blocked for edit warring. Snarky comments like this are also not helping. Please be cordial and refrain from further edit warring until the discussion is done.</dd> <dd>I think I understand what you are confused about, but I don't agree that it is actually all that confusing for most readers. It definitely is not "disorienting". If there is consensus that the rowspans in the table are confusing enough to need to be addressed then I would support splitting them into individual rows, but I don't think it is necessary to link every episode in every row. That leads to heaps of ridiculous <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> within a few rows of each other. If someone is looking at the rows for May and Ward and wants to click on the unlinked <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">"Pilot"</q> cell then all they need to do is look up a three lines to the Coulson row. - <a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">adamstom97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamstom.97" title="User talk:Adamstom.97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Adamstom.97","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z"],"displayName":"adamstom97"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">Adamstom.97</a>:</span>, Sure, but let me point out again:</dd> <dd>If one reads the policies referenced by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> you'll learn that it applies more to the lead to technical articles then to a fantasy or entertainment based one like this. "...Duplicate linking in stand-alone and embedded lists is permissible if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom." and from <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Overlinking">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Overlinking</a> "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead."</dd> <dd>In some cases and the link is pretty far away, especially for characters added later. Adding it is not "disorienting" I agree.</dd> <dd>Try this: What harm do my edits do? They don't make it infinitely better, but how do they make the page worse? <dl><dd><dl><dd>I've not accused anyone of "war". We all do things differentially. Look at my profile. Keeping an open mind is important, and I hope(lessly) everyone else does so, but it's hard to do sometime, harder then using ones index finger one time. Just, sometimes one has to ping another to get a reason. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z"></span>It doesn't matter that you don't think your edits are doing any "harm", if editors disagree with you then you must resolve the issue by discussion, not edit warring. "We all do things differentially [sic]" may be true, but the same rules still apply to all of us. The point isn't what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> says, the point is that you are adding heaps of the same link to a table that just doesn't need them. A little bit of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONSENSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONSENSE">WP:COMMONSENSE</a> should be used here. - <a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">adamstom97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamstom.97" title="User talk:Adamstom.97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z","author":"Adamstom.97","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z","c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"adamstom97"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"></span>No, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">Adamstom.97</a>:</span>, the point very much is what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> says. That's what everyone's relied on to claim my edits are "disruptful". If one is to use it, one should use it correctly. If one is going to use a policy to set how Wikipedia is to be edited, then one should know what the policy sais. Take a look at it. I quoted it above, and linked to the page. If one misunderstood the policy it would be good to update how one understands how Wikipedia is to be edited.</dd> <dd>And I'm asking for your opinion, not stating mine (i.e. it's not rhetoric it's an actual question): How are my edits harmful? Your responce might be useful in how I edit pages in the future. I'm trying to have a discussion, not insult anyone. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-06T22:56:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"></span>Your edits are <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">harmful</q> because you seem to have no regard to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSENSUS">WP:CONSENSUS</a> that exists on this page (and frankly most of Wikipedia) that the episodes should not be linked more than once in the table because of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a>. Additionally, the fact you <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=1096819519&amp;oldid=1096621520">continued to edit the article</a> with further adjustments in the face of discussion after being banned for warring on that content, does not look good to other editors who are trying to follow <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> and actually discuss this to see if any new consensus needs to be formed. - <a href="/wiki/User:Favre1fan93" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 7 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z","author":"Favre1fan93","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-06T22:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z"></span>That's fair. I can comprehend how my actions are harmful to the "<i>optional</i>" "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD,_revert,_discuss_cycle" title="Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle">BRD</a>" policy. <small>It seems as if all these policies are optional. (Optional as in one is not required to follow them, but they are a good guide line, a nice suggestion...hu? Who knew? Somebody I guess. Did you?)</small></dd> <dd>How about the content? How are those links harmful? Feel free to discuss how you would like to.</dd> <dd>Also, please read the policies referenced in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a> (The quotation here is relevant to the table I edited.). You'll learn that it applies more to the lead to technical articles then to a fantasy or entertainment based one like this. "...Duplicate linking in stand-alone and embedded lists is permissible if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom." <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 7 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T17:57:00.000Z-Favre1fan93-2022-07-07T16:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span>You all ever see this? <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">Wikipedia:Five_pillars</a>; might supersede <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUPLINKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUPLINKS">WP:DUPLINKS</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD,_revert,_discuss_cycle" title="Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle">BRD</a>, and other policy suggestions butthatsjustme, I'vebeenwrongbefore. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans","replies":["c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z-Duplicate_links_and_rowspans"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z"></span>None of the 5 pillars are directly relevant to this change, though "Wikipedia's editors should treat each other with respect and civility" does apply to this situation given your edit warring and the lack of civility that you continue to show. Your dismissive behaviour and insistence on ignoring what we are all saying in favour of repeating the same question over again is not appreciated. You have made your point, you think the table is confusing and you think making it less confusing isn't going to "harm" anyone. But there is no consensus here that it is confusing enough to change, and even if that was not the case there is certainly no consensus to support adding duplicate episode links throughout the table. So I suggest you take a break and wait to see if anyone else supports your position. - <a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">adamstom97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamstom.97" title="User talk:Adamstom.97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z","author":"Adamstom.97","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"adamstom97"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-07T19:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z"></span>Also, please read the policies referenced in WP:DUPLINKS (The quotation here is relevant to the table I edited.). You'll learn that it applies more to the lead to technical articles then to a fantasy or entertainment based one like this. "...<u>Duplicate linking in stand-alone and embedded lists is permissible</u> if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom." BradVesp (talk) 17:57, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply] <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-08T05:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">if it significantly aids the reader</q> -- we are saying that it does not in this case. - <a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">adamstom97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamstom.97" title="User talk:Adamstom.97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:55, 10 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z","author":"Adamstom.97","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"adamstom97"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-08T11:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z"></span>Duplicate linking which significantly aids the reader "<b>is most often the case when the list is presenting information ... formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data</b>, ..." <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 10 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-10T21:06:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Favre1fan93-2022-07-10T21:06:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-10T10:49:00.000Z"></span>You don't need the same link only a handful of rows apart. - 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When I was adding the link for <a href="/wiki/Fear_and_Loathing_on_the_Planet_of_Kitson" class="mw-redirect" title="Fear and Loathing on the Planet of Kitson">Fear and Loathing on the Planet of Kitson</a> and <a href="/wiki/Toldja" class="mw-redirect" title="Toldja">Toldja</a> I took out that line break. I didn't think it would cause a problem. You got it back, so that's something. The changes don't seem to affected the read page. Is that right? Maybe I'm missing something or its got a different look on a different browser. </p><p>How'd those links get missed in the first place; no separate Wikipedia page? They were pretty late in the series. <a href="/wiki/User:BradVesp" title="User:BradVesp">BradVesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BradVesp" title="User talk:BradVesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z-Missing_Link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z-Missing_Link"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z","author":"BradVesp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z-Missing_Link","replies":["c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z-Missing_Link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z"></span>Over the course of the series there was different editor availability for making episode-specific articles, so we don't have articles for every episode of the show at the moment. - <a href="/wiki/User:Adamstom.97" title="User:Adamstom.97">adamstom97</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamstom.97" title="User talk:Adamstom.97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._characters#c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 10 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z","author":"Adamstom.97","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"adamstom97"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamstom.97-2022-07-10T01:54:00.000Z-BradVesp-2022-07-09T21:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Gonnym-20230622184300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Akela_Amador\&quot;_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20230622184300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Gonnym-20230622184300-\&quot;Akela_Amador\&quot;_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Akela Amador\&quot; 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