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For instance,<br />> when an API is abused for things it has not been designed for, which may hurt<br />> the kernel as a whole.<br /><br />I believe that the maintainer should have the right to define what the API<br />is. And as long as users follow the use cases of the API, it should be<br />perfectly fine.<br /><br />This isn't a user space API, where Linus has basically said if you expose<br />something to user space and user space starts using it in a way you didn't<br />expect, that's your problem.<br /><br />But I hope that doesn't go with the kernel. To make things faster, I do<br />expose internals of the tracing in the header files. 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