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Please focus on expanding these history sections (eg details of famous events) rather than just the current somewhat unexciting narrative that lists various people that once visited or were members/officers. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SCP2292&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SCP2292 (page does not exist)">SCP2292</a> </p><p>Haven't all these requirements now been addressed? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/131.111.184.92" title="Special:Contributions/131.111.184.92">131.111.184.92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:131.111.184.92" title="User talk:131.111.184.92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-131.111.184.92-2015-04-08T18:06:00.000Z-Grading" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 8 April 2015 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-131.111.184.92-2015-04-08T18:06:00.000Z-Grading"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-131.111.184.92-2015-04-08T18:06:00.000Z-Grading"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z"></span>Conflicts of Interest - Please Read<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Conflicts of Interest - Please Read"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Regnus-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read"></span>There is a problem of this article being edited by lots of people with significant conflicts of interest. To that extent, can anyone involved in the society (e.g. current/former officers or current/former directors) please post changes here first. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Regnus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Regnus (page does not exist)">Regnus</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Regnus-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Regnus-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Regnus-2007-03-25T11:30:00.000Z-Conflicts_of_Interest_-_Please_Read"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="General_Article_Comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-General_Article_Comments"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-General_Article_Comments"></span>General Article Comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-General_Article_Comments"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: General Article Comments"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I've changed a few things. There was overemphasis on the society being 'private' which overshadowed the work it does to maintain its charitable status, and the extent to which it cooperates with the student body. I changed the facilities - which no longer include a movie theatre. I changed the job description of the trustees as they are constitutionally NOT superior to the officers. I improved the grammar in sections. </p><p>Is a text list the best way to list the Presidents or does it merit a standalone page? Would they also be better in tabular format? <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 22:19, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>I've turned the list into a table and linked the colleges. I'll also link as many names as I recognise, starting shortly. I don't think it deserves a separate article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Avaragado" title="User:Avaragado">Avaragado</a> 22:53, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>Excellent. I've put as many links as I can into <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.cix.co.uk/~mtod/CambridgeUnionSocietyPresidents.html">http://www.cix.co.uk/~mtod/CambridgeUnionSocietyPresidents.html</a>. Should we start earlier - there are some interesting Presidents earlier on. <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 23:39, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>I've copied the data from your CIX page, including the surrounding commentary. I hope this isn't considered a copyvio, since it's your page... -- <a href="/wiki/User:Avaragado" title="User:Avaragado">Avaragado</a> 09:24, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>The list is derived from the Percy Cradock book, plus some work of my own in the 1980s, followed by more recent lists generated by Union staff. Not sure where the copyright would rest - or even if the list is copyrightable? It's now a very long page (although I think there is sufficient interest in the list of famous names for it to be included) - should we have a page that only lists the presidents? <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 10:51, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>I don't think a separate page is needed, but I don't feel strongly about it. It might, however, be worthwhile placing the individual presidents in a category, such as <a href="/wiki/Category:Presidents_of_the_Cambridge_Union" title="Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union">Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union</a> (which could be a subcategory of <a href="/wiki/Category:University_of_Cambridge" title="Category:University of Cambridge">Category:University of Cambridge</a>). -- <a href="/wiki/User:Avaragado" title="User:Avaragado">Avaragado</a> 17:09, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>I'm not passionate about it either way - although I notice that quite a few lists of office holders are handled in a similar way. Should the category be <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Presidents_of_the_Cambridge_Union_Society&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society (page does not exist)">Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 23:43, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>Yes, I guess so. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Avaragado" title="User:Avaragado">Avaragado</a> 18:03, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>We've just made number 93 on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Offline_reports/This_is_one_of_the_longest_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Offline reports/This is one of the longest articles">Wikipedia:Offline reports/This is one of the longest_articles</a> page. Is this a good thing? Should we fix it? <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 22:56, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>I'm not entirely sure how... Since the tables make up the majority of the content, moving those to a separate article would just make <i>that</i> article one of the longest. Many of the articles on that list are similar to this one: lists of names. They're never going to get any shorter, so I don't think there's any strong imperative to try to shorten this one. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Avaragado" title="User:Avaragado">Avaragado</a> 07:58, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd> <dd>So shall we go for it? What does it take to add a category? <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 11:07, Aug 22, 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>It's easy. All you do is add [[Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society|Bloggs, Joe]] to Joe Bloggs' article, assuming Mr Bloggs is a president. That categorises each president. You also need to categorise the category, since all categories are arranged in a hierarchy. You do this in exactly the same way: go to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Presidents_of_the_Cambridge_Union_Society&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society (page does not exist)">Category:Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society</a> and add [[Category:University of Cambridge]]. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">Wikipedia:Categorization</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Avaragado" title="User:Avaragado">Avaragado</a> 16:36, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>Off we go then! :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> 18:01, Aug 22, 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Secretary_and_Vice_President" data-mw-thread-id="h-Secretary_and_Vice_President-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Secretary_and_Vice_President-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z"></span>Secretary and Vice President<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Secretary_and_Vice_President-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Secretary and Vice President"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-131.111.233.8-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z-Secretary_and_Vice_President"></span>I have just deleted from the 'Society's Leadership' the sentence about the SVP being able to appoint members to Director roles. The Directorship roles that the SVP appoints, not the ones appointed by the Standing Committee, are roles that are not leadership roles e.g. Director of proof reading is not a member of the 'Societies Leadership'. These roles are administrative roles. </p><p>I also indicated that the SVP has 'general control of the general business' of the society and not the 'business' of the society as a whole. To say otherwise would be ludicrous. To say that the SVP has general control of the 'business' of the society would mean that the SVP has 'general control' over such matters as events, finances, investments etc .. which is simply not true. (UNSIGNED) </p><p><br/> I have changed this back and put in a quote from the Society's laws to make sure that there is no ambiguity. If any member has an issue with this the logical thing to do would be to attempt to change the Society's laws, rather than its wikipedia page. This is not a soap box. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/131.111.233.8" title="Special:Contributions/131.111.233.8">131.111.233.8</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:131.111.233.8&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:131.111.233.8 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-131.111.233.8-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z-Secretary_and_Vice_President" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-131.111.233.8-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z-Secretary_and_Vice_President"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-131.111.233.8-2008-02-05T16:40:00.000Z-Secretary_and_Vice_President"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Union_elections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Union_elections-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Union_elections-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z"></span>Union elections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Union_elections-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Union elections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z-Union_elections"></span>The section on Union elections is getting a bit NPOV. Although there is no question that Union elections can be quite rough (the 'billiard ball' election of 1956 springs to mind), has anyone actually been disqualified for canvassing in recent times? While I accept that elections are frequently quite bitter, are they frequently dirty? The rulebook isn't particularly complex (perhaps that's the problem) and should be referred to as the Constitution. There's also no mention of the 'minimum number of speeches' rules which I understood was also used to shut out candidates from election. <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z-Union_elections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z-Union_elections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T07:55:00.000Z-Union_elections"></span> </p><p>Someone has now removed this bit (it's mostly boring details anyway not of much interest to the general interest reader). The 'rulebook' aka constitution is actually fairly complex in terms of what candidates can and can not do during an election period. There are quite complicated and strict requirments about what types of canvasing can occur (i.e. phone calls are ok but text messages or e-mail are not). The minimum speeches requirement is enforced although it is hardly ever a big problem for a potential candidate to meet as any main or floor speech in an emergency or main debate counts. The main purpose of the speech requirment is to stop someone from running at the last second who has never actively participated in any Union events. Also not all elected positions, i.e. house committee, have speech requirements and the most required for an office is 3. There have been some cases of electoral malpractice in recent elections and fines have been issued as appropriate. [X 11 Nov 2005] </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Recent_ex-Presidents" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recent_ex-Presidents-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recent_ex-Presidents-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z"></span>Recent ex-Presidents<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recent_ex-Presidents-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Recent ex-Presidents"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents"></span>This could do with being a bit more analytical. Does anyone have sources for where recent ex-Presidents have gone? And how this has changed? Are there really fewer Presidents going into the law (for example)? And does Chris Kelly (17 years ago!) count as recent. <a href="/wiki/User:Mpntod" title="User:Mpntod">Mpntod</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:01, 31 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mpntod-2005-10-31T08:01:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Acountnumber1189-2007-12-26T09:16:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents"></span>Over past 10 Presidents, none have gone into law. They have went into; Media, Politics, Medicine, Engineering, Management Consultancy, Academia, Civil Service, and Banking. (26 December 2007). <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Acountnumber1189&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Acountnumber1189 (page does not exist)">Acountnumber1189</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Acountnumber1189&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Acountnumber1189 (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Acountnumber1189" title="Special:Contributions/Acountnumber1189">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Acountnumber1189-2007-12-26T09:16:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Acountnumber1189-2007-12-26T09:16:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Acountnumber1189-2007-12-26T09:16:00.000Z-Recent_ex-Presidents"></span> </p><p>It seems like the destination of former officers these days (as well as the makeup of members) is much more widespread and there is no longer a 'typical' path for people to follow. It's safe to say many ex-officers go onto 'leadership' style careers, but I wouldn't say that law was a huge preference. As for the 17 years but, for a society nearly two centuries old 17 years is recent, but I see your point as it is a bit of an arbitrary cutoff. [X 11 Nov 2005] </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z"></span>Cambridge Arts and Sciences<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Cambridge Arts and Sciences"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences"></span>Why has the section on this been deleted? </p><p>Article was shortened to comply with Wiki suggestions and non-core information removed. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Om285&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Om285 (page does not exist)">Om285</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Om285" title="User talk:Om285">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 26 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:15:00.000Z-Cambridge_Arts_and_Sciences"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Which_NATO_Secretary-General?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z"><span id="Which_NATO_Secretary-General.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z"></span>Which NATO Secretary-General?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Which NATO Secretary-General?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Penta-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?"></span>It says "Secretary-General of NATO". Yes, well..WHICH SG? </p><p>There have been more than a few, y'know.:-) --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Penta&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Penta (page does not exist)">Penta</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Penta-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Penta-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Penta-2005-12-15T01:17:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?"></span>Reference removed anyway. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Om285&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Om285 (page does not exist)">Om285</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Om285" title="User talk:Om285">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Which_NATO_Secretary-General?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z"><span id="Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students.27_Union"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z"></span>Not to be confused with Cambridge University Students' Union<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Not to be confused with Cambridge University Students' Union"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-131.111.184.100-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union"></span>I notice that the Oxford Union page has "Not to be confused with Oxford University Student Union" written in italics along the top of the page. Ought this article not have a similar banner? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/131.111.184.100" title="Special:Contributions/131.111.184.100">131.111.184.100</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:131.111.184.100" title="User talk:131.111.184.100">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-131.111.184.100-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-131.111.184.100-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-131.111.184.100-2010-10-21T22:36:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union"></span>Done <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Om285&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Om285 (page does not exist)">Om285</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Om285" title="User talk:Om285">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Om285-2016-09-26T13:14:00.000Z-Not_to_be_confused_with_Cambridge_University_Students'_Union"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2017-12-10T08:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2017-12-10T08:40:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2017-12-10T08:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-12-10T08:40:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified one external link on <a href="/wiki/The_Cambridge_Union" class="mw-redirect" title="The Cambridge Union">The Cambridge Union</a>. 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I can upload the CUS crest again, which was deleted from Wikimedia having been removed from this article. What are the site policies governing this? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:L.R._Wormwood&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:L.R. Wormwood (page does not exist)">L.R. Wormwood</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:L.R._Wormwood&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:L.R. 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No further edits should be made to this discussion. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>moved</b> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Non-admin_closure" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">non-admin closure</a>)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:SS49" title="User:SS49"><span style="color:#008000; font-weight:777;">~SS49~</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SS49" title="User talk:SS49"><span style="color:#0000FF; font-weight:777;">{talk}</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-SS49-2019-08-14T00:08:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SS49-2019-08-14T00:08:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SS49-2019-08-14T00:08:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019"></span> </p> <hr/> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/The_Cambridge_Union" class="mw-redirect" title="The Cambridge Union"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019"></span>The Cambridge Union</a> → <a href="/wiki/Cambridge_Union" title="Cambridge Union">Cambridge Union</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_The_Cambridge_Union" class="mw-redirect" title="List of presidents of The Cambridge Union">List of presidents of The Cambridge Union</a> → <a href="/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_Cambridge_Union" title="List of presidents of the Cambridge Union">List of presidents of the Cambridge Union</a></li></ul> <p>– Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:THE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THE">WP:THE</a>. Similar to the <a href="/wiki/Oxford_Union" title="Oxford Union">Oxford Union</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Eiffel_Tower" title="Eiffel Tower">Eiffel Tower</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Middle_East" title="Middle East">Middle East</a>, the <a href="/wiki/White_House" title="White House">White House</a>, and the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, the "the" is often not capitalized in running text (even by the Union itself), and it appears rather strange when it is. —<a href="/wiki/User:BarrelProof" title="User:BarrelProof">BarrelProof</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BarrelProof" title="User talk:BarrelProof">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z-Requested_move_6_August_2019"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Necrothesp-2019-08-07T12:09:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z"></span>Support</b>. Clearly unnecessary use of definite article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Necrothesp" title="User:Necrothesp">Necrothesp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Necrothesp" title="User talk:Necrothesp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Necrothesp-2019-08-07T12:09:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 7 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Necrothesp-2019-08-07T12:09:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Necrothesp-2019-08-07T12:09:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aloneinthewild-2019-08-10T20:18:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:Aloneinthewild" title="User:Aloneinthewild">Aloneinthewild</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aloneinthewild" title="User talk:Aloneinthewild">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Aloneinthewild-2019-08-10T20:18:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 10 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aloneinthewild-2019-08-10T20:18:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aloneinthewild-2019-08-10T20:18:00.000Z-BarrelProof-2019-08-06T23:41:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What!_No_Women?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What!_No_Women?-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z"><span id="What.21_No_Women.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What!_No_Women?-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z"></span>What! No Women?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What!_No_Women?-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: What! No Women?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?"></span>For most of its history the Cambridge Union was an all-male club. By the early 1960s this was perceived as an embarrassment and an anachronism. Votes were held to amend the constitution to allow women as members, but although a majority voted in favour, they failed to meet the two-thirds majority required by the constitution to make constitutional change. On one occasion a female student gate-crached a debate and was removed, the whole incident seen and reported in the national press. A few years later the amendment was passed and in 1967 <a href="/wiki/Ann_Mallalieu" class="mw-redirect" title="Ann Mallalieu">Ann Mallalieu</a> became the first female president. </p><p>None of this currently appears in the article; I haven't got written sources - I just remember when it all happened, but it should go in. <a href="/wiki/User:SamuelTheGhost" title="User:SamuelTheGhost">SamuelTheGhost</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SamuelTheGhost" title="User talk:SamuelTheGhost">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-14T18:59:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-18T18:21:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?"></span>I've added a paragraph. <a href="/wiki/User:SamuelTheGhost" title="User:SamuelTheGhost">SamuelTheGhost</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SamuelTheGhost" title="User talk:SamuelTheGhost">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-18T18:21:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-18T18:21:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SamuelTheGhost-2020-04-18T18:21:00.000Z-What!_No_Women?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world-20240311190500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world-20240311190500"></span>Not the oldest student debate society in the world<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world-20240311190500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Not the oldest student debate society in the world"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-80.5.193.88-20240311190500-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world"></span>The oldest continuously running student debating society in the world is recognised as the Historical society at Trinity college Dublin. Its competitor society, the philosophical society at Trinity college Dublin, would have won, only that it was banned for a period before returning. This is verified by multiple sources and is recognised by the Guinness world records. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.5.193.88" title="Special:Contributions/80.5.193.88">80.5.193.88</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:80.5.193.88&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:80.5.193.88 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-80.5.193.88-20240311190500-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-80.5.193.88-20240311190500-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-80.5.193.88-20240311190500-Not_the_oldest_student_debate_society_in_the_world"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zikwn-20240524154200-80.5.193.88-20240311190500"></span>I would like to reference that I believe the University of St. Andrews actually has the longest continuniously running english speaking debate society in the world, finding its roots in 1794 (seen here <a href="/wiki/University_of_St_Andrews_Union_Debating_Society" title="University of St Andrews Union Debating Society">University of St Andrews Union Debating Society</a>). In addendum, they start every public debate by saying “the oldest and somewhat finest society of its kind.” <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Zikwn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Zikwn (page does not exist)">Zikwn</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zikwn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Zikwn (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Zikwn-20240524154200-80.5.193.88-20240311190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zikwn-20240524154200-80.5.193.88-20240311190500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zikwn-20240524154200-80.5.193.88-20240311190500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zikwn-20240524154600-Zikwn-20240524154200"></span>I will make this change, but if anyone feels strongly about this, or wants to make a better edit, please do so. I’m not an advanced wikipedia editor, but I do believe I am right about this (unless proven otherwise). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Zikwn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Zikwn (page does not exist)">Zikwn</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zikwn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Zikwn (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cambridge_Union#c-Zikwn-20240524154600-Zikwn-20240524154200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zikwn-20240524154600-Zikwn-20240524154200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zikwn-20240524154600-Zikwn-20240524154200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&oldid=1225459582">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cambridge_Union&oldid=1225459582</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Old_requests_for_peer_review" title="Category:Old requests for peer review">Old requests for peer review</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Selected_anniversaries_(February_2008)" title="Category:Selected anniversaries (February 2008)">Selected anniversaries (February 2008)</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Selected_anniversaries_(February_2009)" title="Category:Selected anniversaries (February 2009)">Selected anniversaries (February 2009)</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Selected_anniversaries_(February_2010)" title="Category:Selected anniversaries (February 2010)">Selected anniversaries (February 2010)</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Selected_anniversaries_(February_2016)" title="Category:Selected anniversaries (February 2016)">Selected anniversaries (February 2016)</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Selected_anniversaries_(February_2018)" title="Category:Selected anniversaries (February 2018)">Selected anniversaries (February 2018)</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_AfC_articles" title="Category:B-Class AfC articles">B-Class AfC articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:AfC_submissions_by_date/03_September_2014" title="Category:AfC submissions by date/03 September 2014">AfC submissions by date/03 September 2014</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Accepted_AfC_submissions" title="Category:Accepted AfC submissions">Accepted AfC submissions</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_University_of_Cambridge_articles" title="Category:B-Class University of Cambridge articles">B-Class University of Cambridge articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_Higher_education_articles" title="Category:B-Class Higher education articles">B-Class Higher education articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Student_Affairs_task_force_articles" title="Category:Student Affairs task force articles">Student Affairs task force articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Higher_education_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Higher education articles">WikiProject Higher education articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Selected_anniversaries_articles" title="Category:Selected anniversaries articles">Selected anniversaries articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 24 May 2024, at 15:46<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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