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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Front page</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions">Suggestions</a></span></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives">Archives</a></li></ul> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV" data-mw-thread-id="h-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV-20240811184700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV-20240811184700"></span>HBC AIV Helperbot 14 removing partially blocked users from AIV<span data-mw-comment-end="h-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV-20240811184700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mdann52&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: HBC AIV Helperbot 14 removing partially blocked users from AIV"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beagall-20240811184700-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV"></span>Please see <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239809479">[1]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239810227">[2]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239815375">[3]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239816880">[4]</a>. The bot was repeatedly removing users with a partial block who were vandalizing on pages outside of their partial block. I ended up reporting to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Beagall" title="User:Beagall">Beagall</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beagall" title="User talk:Beagall">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Beagall-20240811184700-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beagall-20240811184700-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beagall-20240811184700-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdann52-20240814201400-Beagall-20240811184700"></span>Hm, tricky one. I've deployed a change, will monitor and see what difference it makes. Unfortunately, partial blocks are presented to me as if they are full ones, and it's difficult to detect without going into detail on the logs. <a href="/wiki/User:Mdann52" title="User:Mdann52">Mdann52</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Mdann52-20240814201400-Beagall-20240811184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdann52-20240814201400-Beagall-20240811184700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdann52-20240814201400-Beagall-20240811184700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800-Mdann52-20240814201400"></span>Still happening <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1241080140">[5]</a>] The partial block is on the /30 range and prevents reports for the /64 range. <a href="/wiki/User:Geraldo_Perez" title="User:Geraldo Perez">Geraldo Perez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geraldo_Perez" title="User talk:Geraldo Perez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800-Mdann52-20240814201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800-Mdann52-20240814201400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800-Mdann52-20240814201400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdann52-20240819064300-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Geraldo_Perez" title="User:Geraldo Perez">Geraldo Perez</a>:</span> hopefully sorted. For info in the future, the bot will only remove items with the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Vandal" title="Template:Vandal">vandal</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template, so you can bypass the auto-clerking by using other templates and/or subst'ing if appropriate (but I don't know how messy that template is when you do that!) <a href="/wiki/User:Mdann52" title="User:Mdann52">Mdann52</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Mdann52-20240819064300-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdann52-20240819064300-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdann52-20240819064300-Geraldo_Perez-20240819061800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819173500-Mdann52-20240819064300"></span>Looks like the problem is fixed. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Geraldo_Perez" title="User:Geraldo Perez">Geraldo Perez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geraldo_Perez" title="User talk:Geraldo Perez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819173500-Mdann52-20240819064300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819173500-Mdann52-20240819064300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geraldo_Perez-20240819173500-Mdann52-20240819064300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-177.105.90.98-20241019200500-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV"></span>Citations: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239809479">[6]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239810227">[7]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239815375">[8]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1239816880">[9]</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/177.105.90.98" title="Special:Contributions/177.105.90.98">177.105.90.98</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:177.105.90.98&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:177.105.90.98 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-177.105.90.98-20241019200500-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-177.105.90.98-20241019200500-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-177.105.90.98-20241019200500-HBC_AIV_Helperbot_14_removing_partially_blocked_users_from_AIV"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports" data-mw-thread-id="h-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports-20240826141000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports-20240826141000"></span>HBC AIV helperbot14 erroneously and silently removing reports<span data-mw-comment-end="h-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports-20240826141000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mdann52&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: HBC AIV helperbot14 erroneously and silently removing reports"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports"></span>Happened at <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1242367786" title="Special:Diff/1242367786">Special:Diff/1242367786</a>. I'm guessing it's an edit conflict issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_erroneously_and_silently_removing_reports"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdann52-20240829054200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">Jlwoodwa</a>:</span> yeah that's an edit conflict, I will have to have a think how to get round that. <a href="/wiki/User:Mdann52" title="User:Mdann52">Mdann52</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Mdann52-20240829054200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdann52-20240829054200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdann52-20240829054200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20240913171200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000"></span>Another at <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1245504193" title="Special:Diff/1245504193">Special:Diff/1245504193</a>, in case more examples help you identify the issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Jlwoodwa-20240913171200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20240913171200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20240913171200-Jlwoodwa-20240826141000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?" data-mw-thread-id="h-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?-20240902112200"><span id="HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?-20240902112200"></span>HBC AIV helperbot14 is down?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?-20240902112200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mdann52&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: HBC AIV helperbot14 is down?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DreamRimmer-20240902112200-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?"></span>There are a bunch of actioned reports at UAA and AIV that the bot hasn't cleared yet. It last edited 5 hours ago. – <a href="/wiki/User:DreamRimmer" title="User:DreamRimmer"><b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b></a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DreamRimmer" title="User talk:DreamRimmer">talk</a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-DreamRimmer-20240902112200-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DreamRimmer-20240902112200-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DreamRimmer-20240902112200-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DreamRimmer-20240902114200-DreamRimmer-20240902112200"></span>I checked the bot logs, and it seems the job was terminated because of a maxlag timeout. – <a href="/wiki/User:DreamRimmer" title="User:DreamRimmer"><b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b></a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DreamRimmer" title="User talk:DreamRimmer">talk</a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-DreamRimmer-20240902114200-DreamRimmer-20240902112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DreamRimmer-20240902114200-DreamRimmer-20240902112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DreamRimmer-20240902114200-DreamRimmer-20240902112200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdann52-20240902122100-DreamRimmer-20240902114200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DreamRimmer" title="User:DreamRimmer">DreamRimmer</a> restarted. Continuous flag set so this shouldn't happen again. interesting maxlag has only started peaking again in the last few days! <a href="/wiki/User:Mdann52" title="User:Mdann52">Mdann52</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Mdann52-20240902122100-DreamRimmer-20240902114200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdann52-20240902122100-DreamRimmer-20240902114200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdann52-20240902122100-DreamRimmer-20240902114200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DreamRimmer-20240902130100-Mdann52-20240902122100"></span>Thanks for restarting it. I <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac#Bot" title="User talk:Primefac">was planning</a> to use my bot as a backup until yours was back up. If you ever need a co-maintainer for it, I'd be happy to help out. – <a href="/wiki/User:DreamRimmer" title="User:DreamRimmer"><b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b></a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DreamRimmer" title="User talk:DreamRimmer">talk</a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-DreamRimmer-20240902130100-Mdann52-20240902122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DreamRimmer-20240902130100-Mdann52-20240902122100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DreamRimmer-20240902130100-Mdann52-20240902122100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K6ka-20241027232000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?"></span>The bot appears to be down again as of 18:37, 27 October 2024 UTC. —<a href="/wiki/User:K6ka" title="User:K6ka"><b><span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span></b></a> <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K6ka" title="User talk:K6ka"><span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka" title="Special:Contributions/K6ka"><span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-K6ka-20241027232000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K6ka-20241027232000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K6ka-20241027232000-HBC_AIV_helperbot14_is_down?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdann52-20241028054900-K6ka-20241027232000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:K6ka" title="User:K6ka">K6ka</a> heya - bot isn't down. Server lag is currently coming back as <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=WP:AIV&format=json&maxlag=-1">39182</a>s, so it's backing off every edit automatically as a result (see <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Maxlag_parameter" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:Maxlag parameter">mw:Manual:Maxlag parameter</a>. I'll bypass this check for now and make sure this is reported. <a href="/wiki/User:Mdann52" title="User:Mdann52">Mdann52</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Mdann52-20241028054900-K6ka-20241027232000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdann52-20241028054900-K6ka-20241027232000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdann52-20241028054900-K6ka-20241027232000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdann52-20241028060800-Mdann52-20241028054900"></span>I've poked the WMF Ops peeps, the errant replica has been killed, everything is back to working normally. <a href="/wiki/User:Mdann52" title="User:Mdann52">Mdann52</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdann52#c-Mdann52-20241028060800-Mdann52-20241028054900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdann52-20241028060800-Mdann52-20241028054900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdann52-20241028060800-Mdann52-20241028054900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002900"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mdann52&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002900-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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