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Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination: <table style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td><ul><li><b>Recreation of new, substantially improved version allowed, 3 November 2009, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009_November_3" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 November 3">DRV</a></b> <ul><li><b>, Delete</b>, 27 September 2009, see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Internet_Pager">discussion</a>.</li><li><b>Keep</b>, 16 December 2009, see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Internet_Pager_(2nd_nomination)">discussion</a>.</li></ul></li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stub" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stub-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stub-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Stub<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stub-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Stub"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_Archer-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z-Stub"></span>Is this article still considered as stub? What should be added (changed, etc)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris_Archer" title="User:Chris Archer">Chris Archer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_Archer" title="User talk:Chris Archer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-Chris_Archer-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z-Stub" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_Archer-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z-Stub"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_Archer-2008-02-12T22:03:00.000Z-Stub"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="Tabbed_message_window" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tabbed_message_window-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tabbed_message_window-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z"></span>Tabbed message window<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tabbed_message_window-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Tabbed message window"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-80.136.77.56-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z-Tabbed_message_window"></span>This is not a <i>"distinct feature"</i>, <a href="/wiki/Pidgin_(software)" title="Pidgin (software)">Pidgin</a> has it, <a href="/wiki/Trillian_(software)" title="Trillian (software)">Trillian (software)</a> too. Perhaps it <i>was</i> one when the program was written, the article should be changed on that. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.136.77.56" title="Special:Contributions/80.136.77.56">80.136.77.56</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:80.136.77.56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:80.136.77.56 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-80.136.77.56-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z-Tabbed_message_window" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-80.136.77.56-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z-Tabbed_message_window"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-80.136.77.56-2008-09-22T13:53:00.000Z-Tabbed_message_window"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="http://en.icqhelp.net" data-mw-thread-id="h-http://en.icqhelp.net-Tabbed_message_window-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z"><span id="http:.2F.2Fen.icqhelp.net"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-http://en.icqhelp.net-Tabbed_message_window-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z"></span><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://en.icqhelp.net">http://en.icqhelp.net</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-http://en.icqhelp.net-Tabbed_message_window-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: http://en.icqhelp.net"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-80.137.124.42-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z-http://en.icqhelp.net"></span>This link down there in my opinion doesn't deserve to be here. The only information you find there about QIP is: </p> <blockquote> <p>QIP: Quiet Internet Pager (QIP) is an alternative instant messaging client based on OSCAR protocol. It's a closed source freeware developed by a russian developer. QIP is lighweight, fast and skinable with userfriendly features. </p><p>QIP site Download QIP (links) </p> </blockquote> <p>Sorry, but in the German article I'm fighting for the right to put in our german support board, because the developer (russian) has even very poor english support, but THIS page has absolutely no information to add about QIP, so I've deleted it. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.137.124.42" title="Special:Contributions/80.137.124.42">80.137.124.42</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:80.137.124.42&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:80.137.124.42 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:37, 14 November 2008 (UTC) (And there is no "help" as written) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.137.124.42" title="Special:Contributions/80.137.124.42">80.137.124.42</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:80.137.124.42&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:80.137.124.42 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-80.137.124.42-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z-http://en.icqhelp.net" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-80.137.124.42-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z-http://en.icqhelp.net"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-80.137.124.42-2008-11-14T18:37:00.000Z-http://en.icqhelp.net"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seems_dead" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seems_dead-Tabbed_message_window-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seems_dead-Tabbed_message_window-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z"></span>Seems dead<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seems_dead-Tabbed_message_window-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Seems dead"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z-Seems_dead"></span>QIP seems quiet dead, man 404s on the page. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fahrertuer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fahrertuer (page does not exist)">Fahrertuer</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fahrertuer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Fahrertuer (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z-Seems_dead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z-Seems_dead"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z-Seems_dead"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.251.133.244-2009-02-04T19:25:00.000Z-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z"></span>QIP is alive and well, last version was released on 3rd of February, 2009. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.251.133.244" title="Special:Contributions/87.251.133.244">87.251.133.244</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:87.251.133.244&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:87.251.133.244 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-87.251.133.244-2009-02-04T19:25:00.000Z-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.251.133.244-2009-02-04T19:25:00.000Z-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.251.133.244-2009-02-04T19:25:00.000Z-Fahrertuer-2008-12-31T00:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Alexa_rating" data-mw-thread-id="h-Alexa_rating-Tabbed_message_window-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Alexa_rating-Tabbed_message_window-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span>Alexa rating<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Alexa_rating-Tabbed_message_window-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Alexa rating"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z-Alexa_rating"></span>I went to <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qip.ru">[1]</a> and saw it had over 2000 sites linking to it, and a fairly high internet visit rating. It doesn't show actual numbers as to how many people go there. Google says there are millions of search results for the official website, when I search for it. Can anyone read Russian? The Google translator program I used left me without a clear answer as to how many people use this software. You don't get mentioned that many times across the internet without being notable. <a href="/wiki/User:Dream_Focus" title="User:Dream Focus"> <b><span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z-Alexa_rating" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z-Alexa_rating"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z-Alexa_rating"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pboley-2009-11-05T09:27:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span>I can read Russian. The last qip was released October 2nd, 2009 <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://qip.ru/ru/pages/download_infium_ru/">[2]</a>. The client supports both ICQ and XMPP protocols, as well as others (mail.ru "Agent" chat program, IRC, SIP). Mobile versions are available for Symbian and Windows Mobile. I went to the QIP wikipedia article (English) today and was surprised to find it deleted; the deletion log is already closed and the discussion is unfortunately rather disheartening: the "for deletion" reasoning is based on the mistaken assumption that QIP is dead. The proponents of this base this on the fact that they can't find any information in English. qip is in fact very much alive and a very modern client. I would be willing to contribute to the English language wikipedia article (by providing references/summaries to the large amount of information available in the Russian language) if it can be restored and discussed in a mature fashion (without people writing "QIP is dead!!!" as an argument, which is unfortunately pure igorance), but I am new to wikipedia and don't want to fight an uphill battle against the camp that deleted the article alone. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pboley&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pboley (page does not exist)">Pboley</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pboley&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Pboley (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-Pboley-2009-11-05T09:27:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pboley-2009-11-05T09:27:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pboley-2009-11-05T09:27:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MaksimBurnin-2009-12-20T11:59:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span>QIP is most popular IM software in russia. But it can be used by english speaking pepole too.--<a href="/wiki/User:MaksimBurnin" title="User:MaksimBurnin">MaksimBurnin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MaksimBurnin" title="User talk:MaksimBurnin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quiet_Internet_Pager#c-MaksimBurnin-2009-12-20T11:59:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MaksimBurnin-2009-12-20T11:59:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MaksimBurnin-2009-12-20T11:59:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-77.40.29.253-2010-01-05T18:27:00.000Z-Dream_Focus-2009-09-28T21:23:00.000Z"></span>QIP is the most widespread IM Client in CIS countries (Russia, Ukraine etc.). It's _millions_ of users. It's absolutely alive. I don't know Windows peepz who would use something else. For "QIP", Russian Google finds 4,750,000 pages. Rambler's rating at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://top100.rambler.ru/top100/Software/index.shtml.ru">http://top100.rambler.ru/top100/Software/index.shtml.ru</a> (category "Programs") places their site TOP1 (averagely about 3,177,290 hits a day, 733,175 users in last month. Is it "notable" enough?). 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