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(This message shows that God chooses people according to his own purposes; <a href="/esv/romans/9.htm">English Standard Version</a> though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— <a href="/bsb/romans/9.htm">Berean Standard Bible</a> Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that God’s plan of election might stand, <a href="/blb/romans/9.htm">Berean Literal Bible</a> for they not yet having been born nor having done anything good or evil, so that the purpose of God according to election might stand, <a href="/kjv/romans/9.htm">King James Bible</a> (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) <a href="/nkjv/romans/9.htm">New King James Version</a> (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), <a href="/nasb_/romans/9.htm">New American Standard Bible</a> for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, <a href="/nasb/romans/9.htm">NASB 1995</a> for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God&#8217s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, <a href="/nasb77/romans/9.htm">NASB 1977 </a> for though the twins were not yet born, and had not done anything good or bad, in order that God’s purpose according to His choice might stand, not because of works, but because of Him who calls, <a href="/lsb/romans/9.htm">Legacy Standard Bible </a> for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that the purpose of God according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, <a href="/amp/romans/9.htm">Amplified Bible</a> and though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything either good or bad, so that God’s purpose [His choice, His election] would stand, not because of works [done by either child], but because of [the plan of] Him who calls them, <a href="/csb/romans/9.htm">Christian Standard Bible</a> For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to election might stand — <a href="/hcsb/romans/9.htm">Holman Christian Standard Bible</a> For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God&#8217s purpose according to election might stand— <a href="/asv/romans/9.htm">American Standard Version</a> for the children being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, <a href="/erv/romans/9.htm">English Revised Version</a> for the children being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, <a href="/gwt/romans/9.htm">GOD'S WORD® Translation</a> Before the children had been born or had done anything good or bad, Rebekah was told that the older child would serve the younger one. This was said to Rebekah so that God's plan would remain a matter of his choice, <a href="/isv/romans/9.htm">International Standard Version</a> Yet before their children had been born or had done anything good or bad (so that God's plan of election might continue to operate <a href="/msb/romans/9.htm">Majority Standard Bible</a> Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or evil, in order that God?s plan of election might stand, <a href="/net/romans/9.htm">NET Bible</a> even before they were born or had done anything good or bad (so that God's purpose in election would stand, not by works but by his calling)-- <a href="/nheb/romans/9.htm">New Heart English Bible</a> For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls, <a href="/wbt/romans/9.htm">Webster's Bible Translation</a> (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth) <a href="/wey/romans/9.htm">Weymouth New Testament</a> and even then, though they were not then born and had not done anything either good or evil, yet in order that God's electing purpose might not be frustrated, based, as it was, not on their actions but on the will of Him who called them, she was told, <a href="/web/romans/9.htm">World English Bible</a> For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls, <div class="vheading2">Literal Translations</div><a href="/lsv/romans/9.htm">Literal Standard Version</a> (for they being not yet born, neither having done anything good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to [divine] selection, might remain; not of works, but of Him who is calling), <a href="/blb/romans/9.htm">Berean Literal Bible</a> for they not yet having been born nor having done anything good or evil, so that the purpose of God according to election might stand, <a href="/ylt/romans/9.htm">Young's Literal Translation</a> (for they being not yet born, neither having done anything good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to choice, might remain; not of works, but of Him who is calling,) it was said to her -- <a href="/slt/romans/9.htm">Smith's Literal Translation</a> (For not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that according to choice the purpose of God might remain, not of works, but of him calling;)<div class="vheading2">Catholic Translations</div><a href="/drb/romans/9.htm">Douay-Rheims Bible</a> For when the children were not yet born, nor had done any good or evil (that the purpose of God, according to election, might stand,) <a href="/cpdv/romans/9.htm">Catholic Public Domain Version</a> when the children had not yet been born, and had not yet done anything good or bad (such that the purpose of God might be based on their choice), <a href="/nabre/romans/9.htm">New American Bible</a> before they had yet been born or had done anything, good or bad, in order that God’s elective plan might continue, <a href="/nrsvce/romans/9.htm">New Revised Standard Version</a> Even before they had been born or had done anything good or bad (so that God’s purpose of election might continue,<div class="vheading2">Translations from Aramaic</div><a href="/lamsa/romans/9.htm">Lamsa Bible</a> Before her children were born, or had done good or evil, the choice of God was made known in advance; that it might stand, not by means of works, but through him who made the choice. <a href="/aramaic-plain-english/romans/9.htm">Aramaic Bible in Plain English</a> Before her children were to be born or would do good or evil, the choice of God was revealed beforehand that this would stand not by works, but by him who called.<div class="vheading2">NT Translations</div><a href="/anderson/romans/9.htm">Anderson New Testament</a> (the children, indeed, having not yet been born, and having done neither good nor evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calls,) <a href="/godbey/romans/9.htm">Godbey New Testament</a> for the children not having been born, neither having done anything good or evil, in order that the purpose of God might stand according to election not of works, but of him that calleth, <a href="/haweis/romans/9.htm">Haweis New Testament</a> (though the children were not yet born, nor had done any thing good or evil, that according to the election of God the purpose might abide, not from works, but from him who called;) <a href="/mace/romans/9.htm">Mace New Testament</a> for before they were born, and had done neither good or evil, that the distinction which God had purposed to make might appear to be, not in consideration of their actions, but of his own free call, <a href="/wey/romans/9.htm">Weymouth New Testament</a> and even then, though they were not then born and had not done anything either good or evil, yet in order that God's electing purpose might not be frustrated, based, as it was, not on their actions but on the will of Him who called them, she was told, <a href="/worrell/romans/9.htm">Worrell New Testament</a> (for, the children being not yet born, nor having done anything good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of Him Who calleth), <a href="/worsley/romans/9.htm">Worsley New Testament</a> (when the children were not yet born, nor had done either good or evil, that the purpose of God according to his choice might abide, not on account of works, but of Him that calleth,) it was said to her, the elder shall serve the younger: <a href="/parallel/romans/9-11.htm">Additional Translations ...</a></div></div></div><div id="centbox"><div class="padcent"><a name="audio" id="audio"></a><div class="vheadingv">Audio Bible</div><iframe width="100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KIZs4GUMn-g?start=2267" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> <div class="vheadingv">Context</div><a href="/bsb/romans/9.htm">God's Sovereign Choice</a> …10Not only that, but Rebecca’s children were conceived by one man, our father Isaac. 11<a href="/greek/1063.htm" title="1063: gar (Conj) -- For. A primary particle; properly, assigning a reason.">Yet</a> <a href="/greek/3380.htm" title="3380: mēpō (Adv) -- Not yet. From me and po; not yet.">before the twins</a> <a href="/greek/1080.htm" title="1080: gennēthentōn (V-APP-GMP) -- From a variation of genos; to procreate; figuratively, to regenerate.">were born</a> <a href="/greek/3366.htm" title="3366: mēde (Conj) -- And not, not even, neither?nor. From me and de; but not, not even; in a continued negation, nor.">or</a> <a href="/greek/4238.htm" title="4238: praxantōn (V-APA-GMP) -- To do, perform, accomplish; be in any condition, i.e. I fare; I exact, require. ">had done</a> <a href="/greek/5100.htm" title="5100: ti (IPro-ANS) -- Any one, some one, a certain one or thing. An enclitic indefinite pronoun; some or any person or object.">anything</a> <a href="/greek/18.htm" title="18: agathon (Adj-ANS) -- A primary word; good.">good</a> <a href="/greek/2228.htm" title="2228: ē (Conj) -- Or, than. A primary particle of distinction between two connected terms; disjunctive, or; comparative, than.">or</a> <a href="/greek/5337.htm" title="5337: phaulon (Adj-ANS) -- Worthless, wicked, base. Apparently a primary word; foul or flawy, i.e. wicked.">bad,</a> <a href="/greek/2443.htm" title="2443: hina (Conj) -- In order that, so that. Probably from the same as the former part of heautou; in order that.">in order that</a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: hē (Art-NFS) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the."></a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: tou (Art-GMS) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the."></a> <a href="/greek/2316.htm" title="2316: Theou (N-GMS) -- A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.">God’s</a> <a href="/greek/4286.htm" title="4286: prothesis (N-NFS) -- From protithemai; a setting forth, i.e. proposal; specially, the show-bread as exposed before God.">plan</a> <a href="/greek/2596.htm" title="2596: kat’ (Prep) -- A primary particle; down, in varied relations (genitive, dative or accusative) with which it is joined).">of</a> <a href="/greek/1589.htm" title="1589: eklogēn (N-AFS) -- A choosing out, selecting, choice (by God). From eklegomai; selection.">election</a> <a href="/greek/3306.htm" title="3306: menē (V-PSA-3S) -- To remain, abide, stay, wait; with acc: I wait for, await. A primary verb; to stay.">might stand,</a> 12not by works but by Him who calls, she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”…<div class="cred"><a href="//berean.bible">Berean Standard Bible</a> · <a href="//berean.bible/downloads.htm">Download</a></div> <a name="crossref" id="crossref"></a><div class="vheading">Cross References</div><div id="crf"><a href="/genesis/25-23.htm">Genesis 25:23</a> and He declared to her: “Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger.” <a href="/malachi/1-2.htm">Malachi 1:2-3</a> “I have loved you,” says the LORD. But you ask, “How have You loved us?” “Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the LORD. “Yet Jacob I have loved, / but Esau I have hated, and I have made his mountains a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.” <a href="/ephesians/1-4.htm">Ephesians 1:4-5</a> For He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence. In love / He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will, <a href="/2_timothy/1-9.htm">2 Timothy 1:9</a> He has saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works, but by His own purpose and by the grace He granted us in Christ Jesus before time began. <a href="/genesis/25-21.htm">Genesis 25:21-22</a> Later, Isaac prayed to the LORD on behalf of his wife, because she was barren. And the LORD heard his prayer, and his wife Rebekah conceived. / But the children inside her struggled with each other, and she said, “Why is this happening to me?” So Rebekah went to inquire of the LORD, <a href="/jeremiah/1-5.htm">Jeremiah 1:5</a> “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” <a href="/deuteronomy/7-6.htm">Deuteronomy 7:6-8</a> For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for His prized possession out of all peoples on the face of the earth. / The LORD did not set His affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than the other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. / But because the LORD loved you and kept the oath He swore to your fathers, He brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. <a href="/1_peter/1-2.htm">1 Peter 1:2</a> according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. <a href="/genesis/18-10.htm">Genesis 18:10</a> Then the LORD said, “I will surely return to you at this time next year, and your wife Sarah will have a son!” Now Sarah was behind him, listening at the entrance to the tent. <a href="/genesis/18-14.htm">Genesis 18:14</a> Is anything too difficult for the LORD? At the appointed time I will return to you—in about a year—and Sarah will have a son.” <a href="/isaiah/46-10.htm">Isaiah 46:10</a> I declare the end from the beginning, and from ancient times what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and all My good pleasure I will accomplish.’ <a href="/matthew/20-16.htm">Matthew 20:16</a> So the last will be first, and the first will be last.” <a href="/john/15-16.htm">John 15:16</a> You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. <a href="/1_corinthians/1-27.htm">1 Corinthians 1:27-29</a> But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. / He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, / so that no one may boast in His presence. <a href="/galatians/1-15.htm">Galatians 1:15</a> But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by His grace, was pleased</div> <a name="tsk" id="tsk"><div class="vheading">Treasury of Scripture</div>(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calls;)the children.<a href="/romans/4-17.htm">Romans 4:17</a> (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.<a href="/psalms/51-5.htm">Psalm 51:5</a> Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.<a href="/ephesians/2-3.htm">Ephesians 2:3</a> Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.that the.<a href="/romans/8-28.htm">Romans 8:28-30</a> And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose… <a href="/isaiah/14-24.htm">Isaiah 14:24,26,27</a> The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: … <a href="/isaiah/23-9.htm">Isaiah 23:9</a> The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth.according.<a href="/romans/11-5.htm">Romans 11:5,7</a> Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace… <a href="/ephesians/1-4.htm">Ephesians 1:4,5</a> According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: … <a href="/1_thessalonians/1-4.htm">1 Thessalonians 1:4</a> Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.not of works.<a href="/romans/11-6.htm">Romans 11:6</a> And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.<a href="/ephesians/2-9.htm">Ephesians 2:9</a> Not of works, lest any man should boast.<a href="/titus/3-5.htm">Titus 3:5</a> Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;but of.<a href="/romans/8-28.htm">Romans 8:28</a> And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.<a href="/1_thessalonians/2-12.htm">1 Thessalonians 2:12</a> That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.<a href="/2_thessalonians/2-13.htm">2 Thessalonians 2:13,14</a> But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: … <div class="vheading">Jump to Previous</div><a href="/acts/28-16.htm">Abide</a> <a href="/romans/7-15.htm">Actions</a> <a href="/acts/28-21.htm">Bad</a> <a href="/romans/2-2.htm">Based</a> <a href="/romans/1-3.htm">Born</a> <a href="/romans/4-17.htm">Calls</a> <a href="/romans/9-10.htm">Children</a> <a href="/romans/6-1.htm">Continue</a> <a href="/romans/8-3.htm">Effected</a> <a href="/romans/6-16.htm">Either</a> <a href="/2_peter/1-10.htm">Election</a> <a href="/romans/8-38.htm">Evil</a> <a href="/luke/7-31.htm">Frustrated</a> <a href="/romans/9-9.htm">God's</a> <a href="/romans/8-28.htm">Good</a> <a href="/romans/8-32.htm">Indeed</a> <a href="/romans/8-17.htm">Order</a> <a href="/romans/8-28.htm">Purpose</a> <a href="/romans/1-1.htm">Selection</a> <a href="/romans/5-2.htm">Stand</a> <a href="/romans/8-28.htm">Works</a> <a href="/romans/4-14.htm">Worthless</a><div class="vheading2">Jump to Next</div><a href="/romans/11-22.htm">Abide</a> <a href="/romans/10-5.htm">Actions</a> <a href="/romans/13-3.htm">Bad</a> <a href="/romans/9-31.htm">Based</a> <a href="/1_corinthians/11-12.htm">Born</a> <a href="/romans/9-12.htm">Calls</a> <a href="/romans/9-26.htm">Children</a> <a href="/romans/11-22.htm">Continue</a> <a href="/ephesians/2-11.htm">Effected</a> <a href="/romans/11-21.htm">Either</a> <a href="/romans/11-5.htm">Election</a> <a href="/romans/12-9.htm">Evil</a> <a href="/genesis/38-9.htm">Frustrated</a> <a href="/romans/9-14.htm">God's</a> <a href="/romans/10-12.htm">Good</a> <a href="/romans/9-15.htm">Indeed</a> <a href="/romans/9-23.htm">Order</a> <a href="/romans/9-17.htm">Purpose</a> <a href="/romans/11-2.htm">Selection</a> <a href="/romans/11-7.htm">Stand</a> <a href="/romans/9-12.htm">Works</a> <a href="/1_corinthians/3-20.htm">Worthless</a><div class="vheading2">Romans 9</div>1. <a href="/romans/9-1.htm">Paul is sorry for the Jews.</a> 7. <a href="/romans/9-7.htm">All of Abraham not of the promise.</a> 18. <a href="/romans/9-18.htm">God's sovereignty.</a> 25. <a href="/romans/9-25.htm">The calling of the Gentiles and rejecting of the Jews, foretold.</a> 32. <a href="/romans/9-32.htm">The cause of their stumbling.</a> </div></div><div id="mdd"><div align="center"><div class="bot2"><table align="center" width="100%"><tr><td><div align="center"> <script id="3d27ed63fc4348d5b062c4527ae09445"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=51ce25d5-1a8c-424a-8695-4bd48c750f35&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script> <script id="b817b7107f1d4a7997da1b3c33457e03"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=cb0edd8b-b416-47eb-8c6d-3cc96561f7e8&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-2'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-0' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-3'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-1' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div align="center" id='div-gpt-ad-1531425649696-0'> </div> <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:inline-block;width:200px;height:200px" data-ad-client="ca-pub-3753401421161123" data-ad-slot="3592799687"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> </div> </td></tr></table></div></div></div><div id="combox"><div class="padcom"><a name="study" id="study"></a><div class="vheading"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="99%" valign="top"><a href="/study/romans/9.htm">Study Bible</a></td><td width="1%" valign="top"><a href="/study/romans/" title="Book Summary and Study">Book ◦</a> <a href="/study/chapters/romans/9.htm" title="Chapter summary and Study">Chapter </a></tr></table></div>Yet before the twins were born This phrase refers to Jacob and Esau, the twin sons of Isaac and Rebekah, whose story is found in <a href="/genesis/25.htm">Genesis 25</a>. The mention of their birth highlights the sovereignty of God in His choices, independent of human actions or merits. This sets the stage for understanding God's election, emphasizing that His purposes are established before human intervention. The context of their birth in the ancient Near East, where lineage and birthright were significant, underscores the radical nature of God's choice.or had done anything good or bad This highlights the principle that God's election is not based on human works or moral actions. It echoes the theme found in <a href="/ephesians/2-8.htm">Ephesians 2:8-9</a>, where salvation is described as a gift of grace, not a result of works. This phrase challenges the cultural norms of merit-based favor, prevalent in both ancient and modern societies, and underscores the biblical teaching of grace.in order that God’s plan of election might stand This phrase points to the divine purpose and sovereignty in God's choices. The concept of election is central to understanding God's redemptive plan throughout Scripture, as seen in passages like <a href="/ephesians/1-4.htm">Ephesians 1:4-5</a> and <a href="/1_peter/1-2.htm">1 Peter 1:2</a>. It underscores the idea that God's purposes are unchanging and reliable, providing assurance to believers of their secure position in God's plan. The historical context of Israel as God's chosen people serves as a backdrop, illustrating how God's election is part of a larger narrative of redemption.<div class="vheading2">Persons / Places / Events</div>1. <a href="/topical/j/jacob_and_esau.htm">Jacob and Esau</a> The twin sons of Isaac and Rebekah, representing two nations and two peoples. Their account is central to understanding God's sovereign choice. 2. <a href="/topical/i/isaac_and_rebekah.htm">Isaac and Rebekah</a> Parents of Jacob and Esau, through whom God's promise to Abraham continued. 3. <a href="/topical/g/god's_plan_of_election.htm">God's Plan of Election</a> The divine purpose and choice that God makes, independent of human actions or merits. 4. <a href="/topical/t/the_apostle_paul.htm">The Apostle Paul</a> The author of the Book of Romans, addressing the nature of God's sovereignty and election. 5. <a href="/topical/i/israel.htm">Israel</a> The nation chosen by God, represented by Jacob, through whom the Messiah would come.<div class="vheading2">Teaching Points</div><a href="/topical/u/understanding_divine_sovereignty.htm">Understanding Divine Sovereignty</a> God's choices are based on His sovereign will and purpose, not human actions or merits. This challenges us to trust in His wisdom and plan. <a href="/topical/t/the_nature_of_election.htm">The Nature of Election</a> Election is a divine mystery that underscores God's grace. It is not based on human effort but on God's mercy and purpose. <a href="/topical/h/humility_before_god.htm">Humility Before God</a> Recognizing that our standing with God is due to His choice should lead us to humility and gratitude, not pride. <a href="/topical/g/god's_faithfulness_to_his_promises.htm">God's Faithfulness to His Promises</a> Just as God was faithful to His promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, He remains faithful to His promises to us. <a href="/topical/l/living_out_our_calling.htm">Living Out Our Calling</a> Understanding that we are chosen by God should inspire us to live lives that reflect His purpose and glory.<a name="commentary" id="commentary"></a><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/pulpit/romans/9.htm">Pulpit Commentary</a></div>Verses 11-13. - For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election (i.e. the principle of his electing to privileges of his own good will and purpose, and not on the ground of any fancied human claims) might stand (μένῃ, i.e. should remain in force, ever applicable), not of works, but of him that calleth; it was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger (<a href="/genesis/25-23.htm">Genesis 25:23</a>). As it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated (<a href="/malachi/1-2.htm">Malachi 1:2, 3</a>). It is here to be carefully observed that, though Jacob and Esau were individuals, yet it is not as such, but as the progenitors and representatives of races, that they are here spoken cf. So it was, too, in both the passages quoted from the Old Testament. In <a href="/genesis/25-23.htm">Genesis 25:23</a> the words are, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger." In <a href="/malachi/1-2.htm">Malachi 1:2</a> the prophet's entire drift is to set forth the Divine favour shown, from the first and still, to the race of Israel as compared with the race of Edom. Hence, as well as from the purport of the chapter as announced at its beginning, it is evident that the subject of individual predestination does not really come in, as it did in ch. 8, but only that of nations or races of men to a position of privilege as inheritors of promises. It will be seen, also, as we go on, that the introduction in illustration of the case of the individual Pharaoh does not really affect the drift of the chapter as above explained. The strong expression, "Esau I hated" (applicable, as shown above, not to the individual Esau, but to the race of Edom) is capable of being explained as meaning, "I excluded him from the love I showed to Israel." The evidence of such alleged hatred the prophet expresses thus: "and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness;" whereas Israel, it is implied, had been protected from such desolation. As to the necessary force of the word in the Hebrew (שכא), we may compare <a href="/genesis/29-30.htm">Genesis 29:30, 31</a>, where in ver. 30 it is said that Jacob loved Rachel more than Leah, and in ver. 31, as meaning the same thing, that Leah was hated; and <a href="/deuteronomy/21-15.htm">Deuteronomy 21:15</a>, "If a man have two wives, one beloved and another hated." In both these passages the same verb is used as in Malachi, and need not, in either case, mean more than disregarding one in comparison with another who is loved. For the use, in the New Testament, of the Greek word μισεῖν in a sense for the expression of which our English "to hate," in its usual acceptation, is evidently too strong, cf. <a href="/luke/14-26.htm">Luke 14:26</a> (to be compared with <a href="/matthew/10-37.htm">Matthew 10:37</a>) and <a href="/john/12-25.htm">John 12:25</a>; so also, though not so distinctly, <a href="/matthew/6-24.htm">Matthew 6:24</a> and <a href="/luke/16-13.htm">Luke 16:13</a>. It is, moreover, not improbable that the Prophet Malachi, in his patriotic ardour, had in his mind the idea of wrath against the race of Edom on the part of the LORD, as "the people," as he afterwards says, "against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever." But even so, the glowing language of prophets need not be taken as dogmatic assertion; and certainly not as binding us to believe that any race of men is, in the literal sense of the expression, hated of Cod. Such a view is in evident contradiction to the general teaching of Scripture, and notably so to that of St. Paul, who has so emphatically declared that God "made of one blood all nations of men," and is One to all. <a href="/commentaries/romans/9-11.htm">Parallel Commentaries ...</a> <a name="lexicon" id="lexicon"></a><div class="vheading">Greek</div>Yet γὰρ (gar) Conjunction <a href="/greek/strongs_1063.htm">Strong's 1063: </a> For. A primary particle; properly, assigning a reason. before [the twins] μήπω (mēpō) Adverb <a href="/greek/strongs_3380.htm">Strong's 3380: </a> Not yet. From me and po; not yet. were born γεννηθέντων (gennēthentōn) Verb - Aorist Participle Passive - Genitive Masculine Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_1080.htm">Strong's 1080: </a> From a variation of genos; to procreate; figuratively, to regenerate. [or] μηδὲ (mēde) Conjunction <a href="/greek/strongs_3366.htm">Strong's 3366: </a> And not, not even, neither?nor. From me and de; but not, not even; in a continued negation, nor. had done πραξάντων (praxantōn) Verb - Aorist Participle Active - Genitive Masculine Plural <a href="/greek/strongs_4238.htm">Strong's 4238: </a> To do, perform, accomplish; be in any condition, i.e. I fare; I exact, require. anything τι (ti) Interrogative / Indefinite Pronoun - Accusative Neuter Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_5100.htm">Strong's 5100: </a> Any one, some one, a certain one or thing. An enclitic indefinite pronoun; some or any person or object. good ἀγαθὸν (agathon) Adjective - Accusative Neuter Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_18.htm">Strong's 18: </a> A primary word; 'good'. or ἢ (ē) Conjunction <a href="/greek/strongs_2228.htm">Strong's 2228: </a> Or, than. A primary particle of distinction between two connected terms; disjunctive, or; comparative, than. bad, φαῦλον (phaulon) Adjective - Accusative Neuter Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_5337.htm">Strong's 5337: </a> Worthless, wicked, base. Apparently a primary word; 'foul' or 'flawy', i.e. wicked. in order that ἵνα (hina) Conjunction <a href="/greek/strongs_2443.htm">Strong's 2443: </a> In order that, so that. Probably from the same as the former part of heautou; in order that. God’s Θεοῦ (Theou) Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_2316.htm">Strong's 2316: </a> A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very. plan πρόθεσις (prothesis) Noun - Nominative Feminine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_4286.htm">Strong's 4286: </a> From protithemai; a setting forth, i.e. proposal; specially, the show-bread as exposed before God. of κατ’ (kat’) Preposition <a href="/greek/strongs_2596.htm">Strong's 2596: </a> A primary particle; down, in varied relations (genitive, dative or accusative) with which it is joined). election ἐκλογὴν (eklogēn) Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1589.htm">Strong's 1589: </a> A choosing out, selecting, choice (by God). From eklegomai; selection. might stand, μένῃ (menē) Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 3rd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_3306.htm">Strong's 3306: </a> To remain, abide, stay, wait; with acc: I wait for, await. 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