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src="/static/images/mobile/copyright/wikipedia-tagline-bg.svg" width="120" height="12" style="width: 7.5em; height: 0.75em;"> </span> </a> </div> <div class="vector-header-end"> <div id="p-search" role="search" class="vector-search-box-vue vector-search-box-collapses vector-search-box-show-thumbnail vector-search-box-auto-expand-width vector-search-box"> <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%A2%D1%8A%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5" class="cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only search-toggle" title="Претърсване на Уикипедия [f]" accesskey="f"><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-search mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-search"></span> <span>Търсене</span> </a> <div class="vector-typeahead-search-container"> <div class="cdx-typeahead-search cdx-typeahead-search--show-thumbnail cdx-typeahead-search--auto-expand-width"> <form action="/w/index.php" id="searchform" class="cdx-search-input cdx-search-input--has-end-button"> <div id="simpleSearch" class="cdx-search-input__input-wrapper" data-search-loc="header-moved"> <div class="cdx-text-input cdx-text-input--has-start-icon"> <input class="cdx-text-input__input" type="search" name="search" placeholder="Търсене в Уикипедия" aria-label="Търсене в Уикипедия" autocapitalize="sentences" title="Претърсване на Уикипедия [f]" accesskey="f" id="searchInput" > <span class="cdx-text-input__icon cdx-text-input__start-icon"></span> </div> <input type="hidden" name="title" value="Специални:Търсене"> </div> <button class="cdx-button cdx-search-input__end-button">Търсене</button> </form> </div> </div> </div> <nav class="vector-user-links vector-user-links-wide" aria-label="Лични инструменти"> <div class="vector-user-links-main"> <div id="p-vector-user-menu-preferences" class="vector-menu mw-portlet emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-vector-user-menu-userpage" class="vector-menu mw-portlet emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> <nav class="vector-appearance-landmark" aria-label="Облик"> <div id="vector-appearance-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown " title="Change the appearance of the page's font size, width, and color" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-appearance-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-appearance-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Облик" > <label id="vector-appearance-dropdown-label" for="vector-appearance-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-appearance mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-appearance"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Облик</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> </div> </div> </div> </nav> <div id="p-vector-user-menu-notifications" class="vector-menu mw-portlet emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-vector-user-menu-overflow" class="vector-menu mw-portlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="pt-sitesupport-2" class="user-links-collapsible-item mw-list-item user-links-collapsible-item"><a data-mw="interface" href="//donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserRedirector?utm_source=donate&utm_medium=sidebar&utm_campaign=C13_bg.wikipedia.org&uselang=bg" class=""><span>Направете дарение</span></a> </li> <li id="pt-createaccount-2" class="user-links-collapsible-item mw-list-item user-links-collapsible-item"><a data-mw="interface" href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%A1%D1%8A%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0&returnto=%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F%3A%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%2F%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8+%D0%BF%D0%BE+%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Насърчаваме Ви да си създадете сметка и да влезете, въпреки че не е задължително." class=""><span>Създаване на сметка</span></a> </li> <li id="pt-login-2" class="user-links-collapsible-item mw-list-item user-links-collapsible-item"><a data-mw="interface" href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5&returnto=%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F%3A%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%2F%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8+%D0%BF%D0%BE+%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Препоръчваме Ви да влезете, въпреки, че не е задължително. [o]" accesskey="o" class=""><span>Влизане</span></a> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <div id="vector-user-links-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown vector-user-menu vector-button-flush-right vector-user-menu-logged-out" title="Допълнителни опции" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-user-links-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-user-links-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Лични инструменти" > <label id="vector-user-links-dropdown-label" for="vector-user-links-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-ellipsis mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-ellipsis"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Лични инструменти</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="p-personal" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-personal user-links-collapsible-item" title="Потребителско меню" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="pt-sitesupport" class="user-links-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="//donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserRedirector?utm_source=donate&utm_medium=sidebar&utm_campaign=C13_bg.wikipedia.org&uselang=bg"><span>Направете дарение</span></a></li><li id="pt-createaccount" class="user-links-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%A1%D1%8A%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0&returnto=%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F%3A%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%2F%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8+%D0%BF%D0%BE+%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Насърчаваме Ви да си създадете сметка и да влезете, въпреки че не е задължително."><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-userAdd mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-userAdd"></span> <span>Създаване на сметка</span></a></li><li id="pt-login" class="user-links-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5&returnto=%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F%3A%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%2F%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8+%D0%BF%D0%BE+%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Препоръчваме Ви да влезете, въпреки, че не е задължително. [o]" accesskey="o"><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-logIn mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-logIn"></span> <span>Влизане</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-user-menu-anon-editor" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-user-menu-anon-editor" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Страници за излезли от системата редактори <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%89:%D0%92%D1%8A%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5" aria-label="Научете повече за редактирането"><span>научете повече</span></a> </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="pt-anoncontribs" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Списък на промените, направени от този IP адрес [y]" accesskey="y"><span>Приноси</span></a></li><li id="pt-anontalk" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0" title="Дискусия относно редакциите от този адрес [n]" accesskey="n"><span>Беседа</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </header> </div> <div class="mw-page-container"> <div class="mw-page-container-inner"> <div class="vector-sitenotice-container"> <div id="siteNotice"><!-- CentralNotice --></div> </div> <div class="vector-column-start"> <div class="vector-main-menu-container"> <div id="mw-navigation"> <nav id="mw-panel" class="vector-main-menu-landmark" aria-label="Сайт"> <div id="vector-main-menu-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div class="vector-sticky-pinned-container"> <nav id="mw-panel-toc" aria-label="Съдържание" data-event-name="ui.sidebar-toc" class="mw-table-of-contents-container vector-toc-landmark"> <div id="vector-toc-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> <div id="vector-toc" class="vector-toc vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-toc-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="toc-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-toc" > <h2 class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Съдържание</h2> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-toc.pin">преместване към страничната лента</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-toc.unpin">скриване</button> </div> <ul class="vector-toc-contents" id="mw-panel-toc-list"> <li id="toc-mw-content-text" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a href="#" class="vector-toc-link"> <div class="vector-toc-text">Начало</div> </a> </li> <li id="toc-Предложение" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Предложение"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1</span> <span>Предложение</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">62 коментара</span> <ul id="toc-Предложение-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Гласове" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Гласове"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>Гласове</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">48 коментара</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Гласове-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Превключване на подраздел Гласове</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Гласове-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-За" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#За"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.1</span> <span>За</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-За-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Против" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Против"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2</span> <span>Против</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Против-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>Гласове, невалидни по У:ПГ</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Коментари" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Коментари"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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<td><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Filing_cabinet_icon.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Архив"><img alt="Архив" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Filing_cabinet_icon.svg/50px-Filing_cabinet_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Filing_cabinet_icon.svg/75px-Filing_cabinet_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Filing_cabinet_icon.svg/100px-Filing_cabinet_icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> </td> <td>Това е <b><a href="/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8" title="Уикипедия:Архивиране на дискусионни страници">архив</a></b> на старо 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id=".D0.9F.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.B4.D0.BB.D0.BE.D0.B6.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Предложение-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span>Предложение<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Предложение-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","linkableTitle":"\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-Предложение"></span>Предлагам следната промяна в <a href="/wiki/%D0%A3:%D0%90%D0%94%D0%9C" class="mw-redirect" title="У:АДМ">политиката за избор на администратори</a>, формулирана и поддържана от <b><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a> - <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Stanqo" title="Специални:Приноси/Stanqo">приноси</a>): </p> <table cellpadding="10" align="center" style="border-collapse:collapse; background-color:transparent; color:inherit; border-style:none;"> <tbody><tr> <td width="20" valign="bottom" style="color:#B2B7F2; font-size:2.3em; font-family:'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight:bold; vertical-align:bottom;">„ </td> <td style="font-style:normal;">Първите 40 редактора с <a class="external text" href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBG.htm">най-големи приноси</a>, които на практика са и най-активните редактори. В сегашния списък „50 recently active wikipedians, excl. bots, ordered by number of contributions“ те са от Мико до A_nedev. Основния довод за това предложение е, че сложните системи се управляват най-ефективно от добре подбрани прости принципи. Индивидуалните качества се доказват на практика без да са жертва на предварителни субективни предположения. Съответства на позитивния дух на Уикипедия за равноправен достъп до всички ресурси. Избягва се практиката администратори да се избират почти 100% от автопатрули и патрули и по този начин 140 човека да определят политиката в Уикипедия на останалите почти 100 000 потребители ограничавайки ги от възможността да влияят творчески на развитието на онлайн енциклопедията. Утвърждава принципа на Уикипедия <i><b>„когато достатъчно много очи гледат, всички грешки се виждат“</b></i>. Поощрява творческото развитие на проекта за по-широк кръг редактори и дава по-добър шанс за развитие на политиката спрямо новите редактори. </td> <td width="20" valign="top" style="color:#B2B7F2; font-size:2.3em; font-family:'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight:bold; vertical-align:top">“ </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Първоначалното, „неофициално“ предложение, направено на Уикипедия:Разговори, както и коментарите към него, се намират понастоящем на <a href="/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8#Предложение_на_ново_правило_за_приемане_на_администратори" title="Уикипедия беседа:Администратори">Уикипедия беседа:Администратори</a> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=4660393#.D0.9F.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.B4.D0.BB.D0.BE.D0.B6.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D0.BD.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.BE_.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B2.D0.B8.D0.BB.D0.BE_.D0.B7.D0.B0_.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.B8.D0.B5.D0.BC.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.B5_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D0.B0.D0.B4.D0.BC.D0.B8.D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.81.D1.82.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8">версия към момента на настоящето предложение</a></span>)</small>. Мотивите ми да пусна предложението за гласуване вместо оригиналния автор са, че вече прекалено дълго време то бива непрестанно и по всякакъв повод прокламирано из беседите на Уикипедия, което причинява разводняване на дискусиите, отвлича вниманието, хаби време и ресурси. Убеден съм, че всички заинтересовани редактори отдавна са научили за него, а и, така или иначе, това е нормалната процедура, която следва да се спазва. През идните две седмици предложението може да бъде дообсъдено и съответно прието или отхвърлено. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-Предложение" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-Предложение"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","replies":["c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z-Предложение"></span> </p> <hr/> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span>Логическа грешка - долното хабене на ресурси едва ли ще откаже автора да продължи да го прокламира навсякъде. <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Usmivka.png" class="mw-file-description" title=":-)"><img alt=":-)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Usmivka.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител:Мико">Мико</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител беседа:Мико">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z"></span>Има една малка разлика; такова поведение ще бъде „<i>несъвместимо с учтива, колегиална атмосфера и </i>[ще]<i> пречи на процеса, в който различни редактори си сътрудничат в хармония за изграждането на енциклопедията</i>“. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T21:13:00.000Z-Мико-2012-03-14T20:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span>*Активно пропагандирана* може да се изтрие от предложението. Не е нужно толкова елементарно да се накланят везните в едната посока.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:32, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Идеята, че тези думи могат да повлияят съществено или дори въобще върху вземането на решение при гласуването, ми се струва леко обидна спрямо интелекта на колегите. Все пак замених „<i>формулирана и активно пропагандирана</i>“ с „<i>формулирана и поддържана</i>“. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-15T11:45:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span>Колеги, най-съществено според мен е обсъждането за увеличаване на администраторската група в контекста на подобряване на политиката спрямо новите редактори, така че да губим по-малко от тях. Няма смисъл да се впускаме в отвлечени спорове „кой най-много е допринесъл“, а да обсъдим и организираме по най-рационален начин усилията на всички които допринасят за Уикипедия. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z","c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-14T18:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"></span>Единственият начин „да се увеличи администраторската група“ е като се изберат нови администратори. В тази връзка, искам да те предложа за администратор — съгласен ли си или не? <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-16T18:53:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"></span>Аз лично виждам даването на администраторски права като естествен процес на развитие на опитните редактори, до който те достигат рано или късно. Виждам, че тук има редактори с много повече опит и стаж, които се въздържат да получат достъп до всички ресурси на Уикипедия, защото администраторството означавало повече отговорност. Точно с това не мога да се съглася, защото всеки редактор поема точно толкова отговорност, колкото може да носи, независимо какви права са му дадени. Смисълът на това гласуване тук аз виждам точно в това - да се признае, че след натрупването на достатъчно опит, всеки редактор би трябвало да получи пълен достъп до ресурсите на Уикипедия. Имам чувството, че много опитни редактори се въздържат от преминаване на нарочна процедура за получаване на администраторски права точно поради сегашната дистанция между редактори и администратори. Гласуването не винаги е достатъчно обективно и справедливо. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T11:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z"></span>Станко, ти наистина ли не схващаш чудовищната разлика между идеята, че най-опитните редактори трябва да получават администраторски права и предложението ти това да става автоматично според брой на каквото е да е? Колкото и да се старая да открия в твоите идеи някакъв градивен елемент все повече почва да ми се струва, че просто се подиграваш със всички и се забавляваш с това колко много време губиш на същите тези редактори, които вместо това биха могли наистина да допринасят за Уикипедия. Би ли престанал с това губене на време моля? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z"></span>Имаш ли някаква по-добра идея как да се определя тази „опитност“ ? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:47, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z"></span>Този ти въпрос вече е откровена подигравка! Многократно ти беше обяснено, че ако си убеден, че някои редактори са заслужили администраторски права на базата на каквито и да е твои критерии имаш пълното право и всички основания да ги предложиш за администратори по сега съществуващата процедура. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T00:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z"></span>Сале, нали смисълът на цялото това обсъждане е да се опитаме да подобрим процедурата за даване на администраторски права, защото според част от редакторите сегашната процедура не е достатъчно ефективна за привличане на опитните редактори да приемат администраторски права. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:03, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T00:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z"></span>За последно:</dd> <dd>1. Ти комай си единствения, който смята, че процедурата трябва да се подобри а ако не си единствен то със сигурност си от много малко малцинство по въпроса. Затова много те моля престани да говориш от името на всички!</dd> <dd>2. Твърдиш, че опитните редактори трябва да са и администратори. Аз изобщо не съм съгласен това и от всичко казано по въпроса дотук съм убеден, че мислещите като теб по този въпрос също са малцинство.</dd> <dd>3. Намекваш, че опитните редактори трябва да получават администраторски права задължително независимо дали искат или не! Това е просто нагло от твоя страна. Нагло е да вменяваш насилствено задължения на доброволци! Убеден съм, че за това също не можеш да събереш повече от маргинално малцинство.</dd> <dd>4. Дори и да се съглася със всичките точки дотук а аз не съм съгласен с нито една и съм убеден не само на базата на това гласуване, че огромното мнозинство от редактори не е съгласно с теб идва окончателното безумие — опитът ти да предложиш количествени критерии за качеството на редакторите!</dd> <dd>Няма и не може да има количествена оценка за качество на творчески труд каквото е писането в Уикипедия! Не можеш за оценяваш опит или каквото и да е друго <b>качество</b> на хора на базата на каквито и да е <b>количествени</b> критерии изолирани от потребителите! Както не можеш да оцениш колко е качествен един писател по броя на страниците в романите му или певец по броя строфите в песните му или музикант по броя на нотите в пиесите му или художник по количеството боя която е използвал в картините си! Нарочно ти давам такива примери защото тези всичките могат да бъдат оценени по това колко са четени, слушани, препечатвани, перифразирани или цитирани, но това е абсолютно неприложимо в Уикипедия и ти много ама много добре знаеш защо е така. Ако всяка статия в Уикипедия беше ограничена до един единствен редактор без право на никой друг да я докосва то тогава твоите количествени критерии биха имали някакъв макар и доста спорен смисъл. Това обаче не е така и не виждам опасност скоро да се случи а докато Уикипедия е такава каквато е в момента тази ти идея е напълно безумна. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:28, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z"></span>Ще ти опонирам само с един количествен критерий, който е важен и според статистиката се превръща в качествен - <b>Посещаемостта при разноезичните Уикипедии е право пропорционална на количеството статии в тях</b>. Всъщност ако не си забелязал, да ти подскажа, че броят на статиите в Уикипедиите е правопропорционален на броя на администраторите. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T01:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Аргументът ти е в стил „процентът на загиналите мъже във военни действия е право пропорцинален на продължителността им следователно трябва да се наемат повече жени в армията“ и е също толкова несъответстващ на изброените по-горе 4 точки. Със същия успех можеше да изтъкнеш като аргумент в своя полза, че Луната се вижда по-ясно през нощта. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T01:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z"></span>Ще се опитам да ти помогна да разбереш - основният аргумент за полагането на всички усилия по подобряване на работата в българоезичната Уикипедия е тя да върви в крак с големите Уикипедии. Имаме за пример друг малък народ - холандците. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:22, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z"></span>Не ми давай отвлечени примери, които нямат нищо общо с темата. И не бъркай причина и следствие. Да смяташ, че като увеличим броя на администраторите ще увеличим посещаемостта е също толкова глупаво колкото да си мислиш, че като събереш повече пожарникари на едно място ще се разгори по-голям пожар защото колкото по-голям пожар толкома повече пожарникари. Отговори ми на точките от 1. до 4. по-горе без да изместваш темата. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z"></span>Никой не може да каже кое е първичното - важното е, че с увеличаване броя на статиите расте и броя на администраторите. При нас едно е ясно - увеличаването броя на администраторите ще им даде повече време да работят с новите редактори за да имат по-добрия шанс да се задържат в Уикипедия. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-17T02:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z"></span>Нежеланието за ясен отговор на поставени въпроси и постоянното изместване на темата са основни характеристики на троловете по принцип и в частност на т.нар. <a href="/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB" title="Интернет трол">сложен трол</a>. Колкото повече продължаваш с това си поведение толкова по ясно се самоопределяш като такъв. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:32, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-17T02:32:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T02:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-Предложение"></span>Отговор:<br style="clear:both"/> 1.Да, търся начин как да се подобри процедурата, за да се скъси дистанцията между редактори и администратори с цел привличането на повече редактори.<br style="clear:both"/> 2.Между двама опитни редактора не би трябвало да съществува разлика в правата на достъп до Уикипедия, защото и двамата са доброволци и имат една и съща цел - развитието на Уикипедия.<br style="clear:both"/> 3.Ако не съществува разлика в компетентността на двама редактора, не би трябвало да съществува и разлика в техните привилегии. Допускаме, че администраторите са най-опитните редактори и затова са получили администраторски права.<br style="clear:both"/> 4.Разбира се, само редакторите, които мислят, че все още има какво да се подобрява в работата на Уикипедия търсят начин и предлагат нови инициативи за това подобряване. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-Предложение" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-Предложение"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T09:21:00.000Z-Предложение"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-Предложение"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Wikibgstat2009_2012.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Wikibgstat2009_2012.png/250px-Wikibgstat2009_2012.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="160" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Wikibgstat2009_2012.png/375px-Wikibgstat2009_2012.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Wikibgstat2009_2012.png 2x" data-file-width="483" data-file-height="310"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Ето как се развива популярността на българоезичната Уикипедия за последните две години - посещенията са паднали от 12 хиляди до 8 хиляди на ден - понижение с 50% спрямо крайната дата. Това не е тролстване, а констатация на факти. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-Предложение" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:38, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-Предложение"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","replies":["c-\u041c\u043e\u043b\u043b\u0438-2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z-Предложение"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Молли-2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z"></span>Статистиката наистина е тъжна и явно трябва да поработим над този проблем. Но не мисля, че администраторите носят вина за нея. По мое мнение това се дължи по-скоро на многобройните кратки статии, на тези без източници или въобще на липсващите такива. За съжаление много хора предпочитат да получат информацията, която търсят от английската Уикипедия, вместо от българската. Поради липса на доверие. А него бихме могли да постигнем с качествени и изчерпателни статии, а не с притока на допълнителни администратори. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Молли">Молли</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8" title="Потребител беседа:Молли">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Молли-2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Молли-2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u043e\u043b\u043b\u0438","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041c\u043e\u043b\u043b\u0438-2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Молли-2012-03-17T12:10:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T11:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-Предложение"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:PlotPageviews_BG-EN-DE-FR-ES-RU-JA_Jan_2012.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/PlotPageviews_BG-EN-DE-FR-ES-RU-JA_Jan_2012.png/350px-PlotPageviews_BG-EN-DE-FR-ES-RU-JA_Jan_2012.png" decoding="async" width="350" height="919" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/PlotPageviews_BG-EN-DE-FR-ES-RU-JA_Jan_2012.png/525px-PlotPageviews_BG-EN-DE-FR-ES-RU-JA_Jan_2012.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/PlotPageviews_BG-EN-DE-FR-ES-RU-JA_Jan_2012.png 2x" data-file-width="640" data-file-height="1680"/></a><figcaption>Посещения на българската (най-отгоре) и, отгоре надолу, EN, DE, FR, ES, RU и JA Уикипедии за периода 2008-2012</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Нека вмъкна и тук, освен на Разговори, истинските статистики на Фондация „Уикимедия“, за да не стои само подвеждащата картинка. От графиките за българската и най-големите други Уикипедии може да се види, че не само не е налице тенденцията, за която се говори, но дори напротив. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-Предложение" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-Предложение"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","c-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z-Предложение"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span>За мен логиката е пределно ясна - повечето администратори ще могат да работят по-детайлно с новите редактори като ги привличат за работа в Уикипедия. Убеден съм че в новите редактори е перспективата. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-BloodIce-2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z"></span>За мен логиката е дори обратна. Повече администратори от активните редактори, би означавало по-малко статии написани от активните редактори за сметка на някаква илюзорна бройка от привлечени новодошли. Нищо не пречи на активен редактор, бил той администратор или не, да привлича нови редактори. Но това е доброволен проект и административният статус нито би стимулирал, нито би пречил за инициатива по обгрижване на новодошлите. Не знам как да ти се обясни, че ако искаш да разшириш бройката на администратори, трябва да отидеш и да ги питаш по беседите. Ако на теб ти е мерак, не нахендряй 40-те, а се кандидатирай сам. В това няма нищо лошо, лошото е предложението което гласуваме и като аргументи имаш долу над 20 гласове. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:BloodIce" title="Потребител:BloodIce">BloodIce</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:BloodIce" title="Потребител беседа:BloodIce">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-BloodIce-2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z","author":"BloodIce","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BloodIce-2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BloodIce-2012-03-17T13:35:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T12:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Точно в десятката, <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Молли">Молли</a>! Многобройните "приноси" от микромъничета, от мъничета без източници, от направо неверни или глупави статии от "новодошли редактори, на които им трябва седмица поне да се ориентират" и чиито приноси трябва да пазим като зеницата на окото си, нищо че статията е "Аз обЕчам Станка от 5-ти Б" - това е което отблъсква читателите. Както и <a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%84%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="ЛайфМел медицински пчелен мед (страницата не съществува)">медоносната</a> статия. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> е в първите 50 в статистиката, посочена от него, скоро ще стане и в първите 40. Предполагам това е движещата сила, да иска автоматичното администраторство (защото едва ли би получил подкрепа при сегашното изисквано мнозинство). След Станьо обаче трябва да минават хора, да му дооправят статиите. Без МЕП, без категории, с печатни или други грешки. Всички правим грешки, аз сигурно повече от другите. Но не ги правя от бързане да натрупам "актив". Имам познати, които не искат да влизат в Уикипедия. Не им харесват статиите. Не им харесват глупавите и безмислените статии на които попадат. Особено пък за медицина. Хайде като правим нещо, да го правим както трябва, а?!!!--<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"></span>Малкото на брой администратори нямат време да се занимават с редакциите на нови редактори и трият наред. Много често съм чувал оплаквания от рода <i>„Абе каквото напиша там, те ми го изтриват. Няма да се занимавам повече с тях.“</i> - Точно в това е проблемът, че липсата на внимание гони новите редактори. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z","c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"></span>Извинявам се, ако съм пропуснал, но ми се струва, че не получих отговор на въпроса дали си съгласен да те предложа за администратор или не. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-17T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"></span>Загуби времето на цялата общност за да налагаш безсмислена инициатива. Хайде спри се, моля!!! Каквото е за триене, ще бъде трито. Като отиваш някъде на гости и се изплюеш в хола, е тъпо да се сърдиш, че домакинята е забърсала "приноса" ти към приятното прекарване на компанията. В някои "пустинни" общности плюенето е признак на учтивост от типа "споделям водата си с теб, защото те уважавам". Но хората са казали също: Когато си в Рим, дръж се като римлянин! Да преведа ли? В Уикипедия се дръж според изискванията и правилата. Поне да личи, че искаш, дори да не можеш (все още). Помагаме, учим. Но само тези, които искат да научат нещо. Казваш, че липсата на внимание, гонела новите редактори. Не е вярно. Изтритата статия е обръщане на внимание. Когато изтрия статия, ВИНАГИ пиша на беседата на "автора" защо съм я изтрил. Ако не схване - проблемът е в него. И, СТАНЬО, прочети къде и каква е разликата между администратор и редактор в Уикипедия. Мисля, че не знаеш и за това губиш времето на всички ни. Мога да напиша още 15 страници формат А4, arial, 14 pt, но съм сигурен, че и това няма да прочетеш. Толкова народ ти писа - без полза.--<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-17T14:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"></span>Само искам да обърна внимание на два факта. Инициативата е предложена от <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Iliev</a>, а гласувалите *за* са повече от един (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a>). За да не изпадат в заблуда някои юзъри.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z"></span>Аз всъщност исках отначало обсъждането да претърпи развитие с предложенията на много редактори и чак при постигнат консенсус за смяна на правилата да се подложи на гласуване, но <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Iliev</a> за съжаление избърза - както и да е - всичко зависи от виждането на редакторите. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-19T13:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z"></span>Не знам дали аз съм избързал или, както се пееше в една песен, „<i>ти закъсня ужасно, ужасно закъсня</i>“. ) <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-19T17:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T17:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Колкото и да не ни се иска понякога, наложително е да се съобразяваме с количествените критерии, защото това са обективните критерии. Светът се развива по обективни закони, а една общност ако се капсулира в рамките на собствените си субективни разбирания няма да успее да посрещне предизвикателствата на времето. Наложителни са отворени модели на развитие. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z","c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"></span>Тая <a href="/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0" title="Мантра">мантра</a> колкото и да я повтаряш, не върви. Просто става досадна. Като говорим за количествени критерии, ще погледнеш ли на дъното на страницата, задал съм ти въпрос?! --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"></span>Ами нека направо тук да те питам, че я намериш, я не: „Stanqo, в момента си на 53-то място в посочваната за пример от теб <a class="external text" href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBG.htm">статистика</a>. След месец сигурно ще си в мечтаните 40 (перспективни администратори, които са "написали" Уикипедия). Как мислиш, защо при положение, че не си одобрен нито за автопатрул, нито за патрульор, ще ставаш за администратор?" --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T05:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z"></span>Нека първо да те стигна теб, защото аз съм на 53-то място, а ти на 50-то. Но пък може и това да не стане, ако тази година си редовен в редактирането. Що се отнася до патрул - не съм подавал молба до Спас, защото не ми е трябвало. За автопатрул - не зная - тези неща нали вие администраторите си ги решавате - мен честно казано също не ме интересува. Питаш ме също за администратор - аз горе на Лъчезар отговорих, но явно той не е разбрал, че това е отговор на поставения от него въпрос, затова тук ще го повторя и за двамата - <i><b>„Аз лично виждам даването на администраторски права като естествен процес на развитие на опитните редактори, до който те достигат рано или късно. Виждам, че тук има редактори с много повече опит и стаж, които се въздържат да получат достъп до всички ресурси на Уикипедия, защото администраторството означавало повече отговорност. Точно с това не мога да се съглася, защото всеки редактор поема точно толкова отговорност, колкото може да носи, независимо какви права са му дадени. Смисълът на това гласуване тук аз виждам точно в това - да се признае, че след натрупването на достатъчно опит, всеки редактор би трябвало да получи пълен достъп до ресурсите на Уикипедия. Имам чувството, че много опитни редактори се въздържат от преминаване на нарочна процедура за получаване на администраторски права точно поради сегашната дистанция между редактори и администратори. Гласуването не винаги е достатъчно обективно и справедливо.“</b></i> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z","c-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T20:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"></span>Ами ще ти го кажа просто и разбираемо: Не си автопатрул, защото подир теб трябва да ходят редактори и администратори, за да оправят нещата. Няма да станеш и патрул, защото дори да пуснеш заявка, няма да бъде приета, по същата причина - РЕДАКЦИИТЕ ТИ НЕ СА БЕЗСПОРНИ. Натрупването на опит и стаж не ти се е отразило. Ресурсите, до които си получил опит в Уикипедия са ти в повече. НЕ СИ ОПИТЕН РЕДАКТОР, въпреки КОЛИЧЕСТВЕНИТЕ натрупвания. Ти си пример за това, как е АБСОЛЮТНО невъзможно количественото натрупване да се превърне в администратор. --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z"></span>Ето, точно това твое изказване е пример за абсолютна пристрастеност към собствените ти представи с които живееш. Но честно казано нямам желание да се опитвам да те извеждам от това състояние - уважавам личния избор. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z"></span>Смешно е да опитваш да променяш система, която дори не си опитал да разбереш. Уикипедия не почва с мен или теб. Не уважавам избора ти да губиш времето на редакторите. Опитай се да помислиш, вместо да лееш празни думи. Да, пристрастен съм към проекта Уикипедия, изчел съм много, а и съм написал доста неща, които са безспорни. Обичам Уикипедия и се дразня, когато някой се опитва да "моделира" нещо, изградено с годините, труда и <a href="/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8_%D0%A3%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BB%D1%81" title="Джими Уейлс">таланта</a> на други. --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T21:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z"></span>Браво на Ванката, че още през 2006 г. е станал инициатор за написването на тази статия. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 19 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-19T22:01:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-19T21:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"></span>Само да ти обърна внимание, че не администраторите, а патрулиращите решават кой да бъде автопатрул. Но извинявай, че се намесвам; забравих, че целта е да се обвиняват настоящите администратори, че са в сговор „срещу общността“. ) <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-19T20:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z"></span>Сам разбираш, че никой никого не обвинява - просто има различни гледни точки които трябва да достигнат до консенсус. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T00:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=4671844&oldid=4671514"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z"></span>„<i>...цялото гласуване изкристализира като „администратори Vs. общество“.</i>“</a> Останалото няма смисъл да коментирам, защото други редактори са го направили много по-добре, отколкото аз бих могъл. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T00:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z"></span>В случая се констатира само факта, че почти всички администратори се наредиха от другата страна на везната на това гласуване за приемане на нов администратор. Кой прави по вярна преценка - администраторите или останалите два пъти повече редактори ? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z","c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T12:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"></span>Отново логическа грешка. Преценката се прави не от или, а от двете групи, въпреки, че администраторите са и редактори (подгрупа). Т.е. спокойно може да се каже, че всички редактори преценяват заедно. Противопоставянето е само в твоя изказ, предполагам служи за пробутването на твойте интереси. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:BloodIce" title="Потребител:BloodIce">BloodIce</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:BloodIce" title="Потребител беседа:BloodIce">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z","author":"BloodIce","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Предполагам няма да отречеш, че при това гласуване някакъв общ фактор им е повлиял да са предимно от едната страна на везната. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-20T13:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мико-2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z"></span>Умението да се вдява. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител:Мико">Мико</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител беседа:Мико">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Мико-2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мико-2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мико-2012-03-20T15:03:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T15:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"></span>Има и още една логическа грешка, която правиш: нито гласувалите против са представителна извадка за администраторите, нито тези „два пъти повече“ редактори са представителна извадка за цялата общност, както иначе излиза от твоите думи. Не търпя някой да се опитва да говори от мое име — и точно заради това тогава си оттеглих гласа, защото видях, че с него се злоупотреби (дори да е било неволно). Та и ти, моля те, не се опитвай да се обявяваш за говорител на някаква „цяла общност“. Говориш сам и за себе си. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:47:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-20T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Резултатът е очевиден, надявам се повече да не се налага да хабим ресурсите на общността толкова безмислено. Резултатът беше очевиден и преди гласуването, всъщност. --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T15:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z"></span>Сега ще бъде и документирано. На мен поне ми писна да чета на всяка втора беседа и на всяка втора тема в Разговори „ех, а само ако приемехте моето предложение, знаете ли какъв живот щеше да настане...“. Писането, разбира се, може и да продължи, но, след като общността веднъж е изказала отношението си съгласно правилата, подобно поведение би било най-малкото некоректно. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z-Uroboros-2012-03-20T21:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z"></span>Резултатът показва, че 10% от гласувалите (до момента) са *за* приемането на това решение. Всеки, който гледа на това с превръзка на очите и го пренебрегва, може да се застреля. Буквално или преносно, по негов избор.<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Usmivka.png" class="mw-file-description" title=":-)"><img alt=":-)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Usmivka.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span> Апропо, Stanqo става поредният, който много добре забелязва очеизвадното в последните дни/месеци, а именно - че съществува една групичка, която при всяко гласуване се припокрива, предрешавайки изхода му, и много често тази групичка включва изцяло админинстраторско тяло).--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 21 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z","c-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z","c-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-20T22:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мико-2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"></span>А ако не се застреля? <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Uhilen.gif" class="mw-file-description" title="Ухилен съм"><img alt="Ухилен съм" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Uhilen.gif" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител:Мико">Мико. Долу черните души!</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител беседа:Мико">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Мико-2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 21 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мико-2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e. \u0414\u043e\u043b\u0443 \u0447\u0435\u0440\u043d\u0438\u0442\u0435 \u0434\u0443\u0448\u0438!"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мико-2012-03-21T17:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"></span>Приблизително такъв е и процентът на страдащите от някакво <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder" class="extiw" title="en:Personality disorder">разстройство на личността</a> сред възрастните американци.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> Ако следваме същата логика, останалите 90% от населението би трябвало да се застрелят — буквално или преносно, по техен избор. Не правя никакви асоциации, просто дадох сравнение с първия ми попаднал пример, което показва за пореден път колко фундаментално погрешно е да гледаме някакви числа, пропускайки това, което стои зад тях. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 21 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z"></span>Абсолютно нищо не си разбрал от поста ми. Сериозна беше втората част, която, виждам, си пропуснал покрай себе си.</dd> <dd>Асоциацията/сравнението, което си пробвал, е доста out-of-nowhere. Понякога не е удачно да се хващаш за първия щукнал ти пример, за да не се получава сериозен wtf ефект.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 22 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-21T17:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z"></span>Дали?... ) <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 22 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z"></span>Сто на сто.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 23 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Iliev-2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z-Iliev-2012-03-22T17:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Е, явно и ти нищо не си разбрал от моите думи. )) <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 23 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-23T19:11:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"></span>До момента преди аз да започна да пиша има 109 споменавания на думи, започващи с „админ“ на тази страница. Мисля, че това е невероятно!</dd> <dd>Rebelheartous, благодаря, да разбирам ли, че след като съм гласувал против съм в групичката на администраторите? Че то тогава направо да вземем гласувалите против и да ги „повишим“ до „админи“, „модератори“ или каквото и друго разбрано-недоразбрано „звание“!</dd> <dd>Шегата настрана, предложението е формулирано по такъв начин, че е нормално огромната част от гласуващите да изберат едната страна. И в Народното събрание често има гласувания, които завършват с 90%-10%, например при проектозакони на ПП Атака. Това прави ли останалите партии част от групичка на „админите“, които „очеизвадно“ предрешават гласуванията? И ако наистина е така тогава това лошо ли е ако всички гласувания, при които всички партии без Атака гласуват против Атака? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Лорд Бъмбъри">Лорд Бъмбъри</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител беседа:Лорд Бъмбъри">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 21 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z","author":"\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434 \u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-21T16:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z"></span>Не, не се отнасяше за теб.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 22 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-21T20:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z"></span>А за кого се отнасяше? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 23 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-22T17:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z"></span>Нали не очакваш поименно да изброявам хора?--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 23 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z-Сале-2012-03-23T08:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z"></span>В интерес на истината аз бих очаквал. Бих очаквал да дефинираш „администраторското тяло“ и да посочиш членовете на групичката, както и гласуванията, в които са гласували еднакво. Иначе изказването ти е напразно обвинение. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Лорд Бъмбъри">Лорд Бъмбъри</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител беседа:Лорд Бъмбъри">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 23 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z","author":"\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434 \u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-23T18:18:00.000Z-Rebelheartous-2012-03-23T16:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["h-\u0417\u0430-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z","h-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","h-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435,_\u043d\u0435\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0434\u043d\u0438_\u043f\u043e_\u0423:\u041f\u0413-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435","linkableTitle":"\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435"}--><h2 id="Гласове" data-mw-thread-id="h-Гласове-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.93.D0.BB.D0.B0.D1.81.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.B5"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Гласове-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Гласове<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Гласове-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["h-\u0417\u0430-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z","h-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","h-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435,_\u043d\u0435\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0434\u043d\u0438_\u043f\u043e_\u0423:\u041f\u0413-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Quake44-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435,_\u043d\u0435\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0434\u043d\u0438_\u043f\u043e_\u0423:\u041f\u0413","timestamp":"2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__48__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__29__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["h-\u0417\u0430-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z","h-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","h-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435,_\u043d\u0435\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0434\u043d\u0438_\u043f\u043e_\u0423:\u041f\u0413-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435","linkableTitle":"\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435"}--></div></div></div> <div class="hilite"> <ul><li><b>Начало на гласуването:</b> 19:03, 14 март 2012 (UTC) / <b>Край на гласуването:</b> 19:03, 28 март 2012 (UTC)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/%D0%A3:%D0%9F%D0%93" class="mw-redirect" title="У:ПГ">Гласуването</a> се провежда по мнозинство В, 6 или повече гласа „за“ формиращи поне 3/4 от общия брой валидни гласове.</li> <li><b>Гласуването е приключило:</b> валидни 3 гласа „за“, 25 „против“. Предложението е <b>отхвърлено</b>.</li></ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="За" data-mw-thread-id="h-За-Гласове-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.97.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-За-Гласове-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"></span>За<span data-mw-comment-end="h-За-Гласове-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z-За"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>За</b>, но ако правилото се леко измени, защото смятам че ще има много редактори които драскат с по една две думи, и ще се надпреварват кой да стане администратор. Иначе идеята е добра. Ще е хубаво ако например - администратори са първите 40 (или там колкото се определят) редактора ПО СЪЗДАДЕН БРОЙ СТАТИИ от тях (има откъде да се проследи). Така от една страна администраторите няма да допускат статии с по едно две изречения (микромъничета), от друга страна ще се стимулират редакторите да създават статии -:). По този начин администраторите ще гледат да създават повече статии отколкото да водят спорове с този или онзи. Всеки който не желае да е администратор, но попада в първите 40, мястото му да заема следващия в класацията. Администраторски права да се отнемат с определен срок (примерно 1 година), при гласуване със или без причина срещу нежелан администратор, и мястото му да заеме следващ в класацията. Според мене този подбор ще е справедлив и стимулиращ за Уикипедия. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Targovishtenec_bg" class="mw-redirect" title="Потребител:Targovishtenec bg">Targovishtenec_bg</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z-За" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z-За"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z","author":"Targovishtenec bg","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430","replies":["c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Targovishtenec_bg"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z-За"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Търговищенец, ти също си сред тези 40 най-активни участници. Защо след като смяташ че първите 40 трябва да имат администраторски права досега не си се кандидатирал за админ? −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T20:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Е, и така съм си добре :) --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Targovishtenec_bg" class="mw-redirect" title="Потребител:Targovishtenec bg">Targovishtenec_bg</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z","author":"Targovishtenec bg","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Targovishtenec_bg"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Targovishtenec_bg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:31:00.000Z-За"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>За</b>--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:31:00.000Z-За" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:31:00.000Z-За"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T11:31:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:31:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-15T11:31:00.000Z-За"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-За"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>За</b>--Гласувам доверието си на хората написали основната част на Уикипедия. „Те, и всички ние, просто искаме Уикипедия да е колкото е възможно по-добра енциклопедия.“<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-За" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-За"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-За"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Против" data-mw-thread-id="h-Против-Гласове-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.9F.D1.80.D0.BE.D1.82.D0.B8.D0.B2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Против-Гласове-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Против<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Против-Гласове-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. Аргументите си съм изразил на първоначалното обсъждане. <span style="font-family:'Droid Sans', Calibri, Verdana, sans; color:silver;">— <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Iliev" title="Потребител:Iliev">Лъчезар</a> • <small><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Iliev" title="Потребител беседа:Iliev">Б</a>/<a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B8:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8/Iliev" title="Специални:Приноси/Iliev">П</a></small></span> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Iliev","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[],"displayName":"\u041b\u044a\u0447\u0435\u0437\u0430\u0440"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iliev-2012-03-14T19:05:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Молли-2012-03-14T19:10:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> - Убедена съм, че тези хора са прекрасни редактори, донесли много полза и изградили Уикипедия. Но характерите на всеки от тях са различни и вероятно в този аспект някои биха били неподходящи за администратори. А други просто не биха искали да бъдат такива. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Молли">Молли</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8" title="Потребител беседа:Молли">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Молли-2012-03-14T19:10:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Молли-2012-03-14T19:10:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T19:10:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u043e\u043b\u043b\u0438","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041c\u043e\u043b\u043b\u0438-2012-03-14T19:10:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Молли-2012-03-14T19:10:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T19:12:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>, както и <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> всяко поставяне на количествения критерий над качествения. След някои хора от този списък трябва да се върви с метлата, за да се оправят неразбориите. Гласуването на такова правило може и да привилегирова правенето на много, но незначителни редакции с цел недобросъвестен редактор да се „докопа“ до административния инструмент и да злоупотреби. −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T19:12:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T19:12:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T19:12:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T19:12:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T19:12:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-14T19:15:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> с предходните аргументи --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Vasilcho" title="Потребител:Vasilcho">Василчо</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Vasilcho" title="Потребител беседа:Vasilcho">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Vasilcho-2012-03-14T19:15:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-14T19:15:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T19:15:00.000Z","author":"Vasilcho","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vasilcho-2012-03-14T19:15:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[],"displayName":"\u0412\u0430\u0441\u0438\u043b\u0447\u043e"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-14T19:15:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Izvora-2012-03-14T19:22:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> Сред тези редактори има и такива, които нямат и автопатрул. Има и неактивни от известно време. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Izvora" title="Потребител:Izvora">Izvora</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Izvora" title="Потребител беседа:Izvora">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Izvora-2012-03-14T19:22:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Izvora-2012-03-14T19:22:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Izvora","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Izvora-2012-03-14T19:22:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Izvora-2012-03-14T19:22:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:14:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> Броят на редакциите не е от значение, всеки случай трябва да се решава поотделно --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Nadina" title="Потребител:Nadina"><span style="color:#556B2F">Nadina</span></a></i> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:14:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:14:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:14:00.000Z","author":"Nadina","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:14:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:14:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:19:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> В списъка влизат напълно неподходящи за администраторство хора (някои не ставащи и за редактори). --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител:Мико">Мико</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител беседа:Мико">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:19:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:19:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:19:00.000Z","author":"\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041c\u0438\u043a\u043e-2012-03-14T20:19:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Мико-2012-03-14T20:19:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ивелин-2012-03-14T20:27:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. Абсолютно ненужно за мен правило. Попитай <b>лично</b> първите 40 дали искат да бъдат администратори. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> всякакви масовки. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Потребител:Ивелин">Ивелин</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Потребител беседа:Ивелин">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Ивелин-2012-03-14T20:27:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ивелин-2012-03-14T20:27:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:27:00.000Z","author":"\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-14T20:27:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ивелин-2012-03-14T20:27:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-14T20:43:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. Въпреки че може да се окаже, че гласуваме с 99% против, което напомня на някои съвсем недемократични времена от историята, това е положението. Дори да приемем, че всеки от 40-те души би искал да бъде администратор (все пак ако стане и не иска просто няма да администрира) броят на редакциите не е определящ за качествата на редактора като администратор. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Лорд Бъмбъри">Лорд Бъмбъри</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител беседа:Лорд Бъмбъри">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-14T20:43:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-14T20:43:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:43:00.000Z","author":"\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434 \u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041b\u043e\u0440\u0434_\u0411\u044a\u043c\u0431\u044a\u0440\u0438-2012-03-14T20:43:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Лорд_Бъмбъри-2012-03-14T20:43:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Velo_Vrbata-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> — Всеки редактор, който има право да гласува може да се самопредложи за администратор. Ако някой от тези 40 човека иска да е админ, няма проблем сам да се кандидатира. А и да не вземе да стане „много вожд, малко индианец“.<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Uhilen.gif" class="mw-file-description" title="Ухилен съм"><img alt="Ухилен съм" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Uhilen.gif" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span> --- <i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Velo_Vrbata" title="Потребител:Velo Vrbata"> Velo </a></i> <i><sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Velo_Vrbata" title="Потребител беседа:Velo Vrbata"><span style="color:#556B2F">ко речи?</span></a></sup></i> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Velo_Vrbata-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Velo_Vrbata-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Velo Vrbata","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Velo_Vrbata-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[],"displayName":"Velo"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Velo_Vrbata-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StanProg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:StanProg" title="Потребител:StanProg">Стан</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:StanProg" title="Потребител беседа:StanProg">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-StanProg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StanProg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z","author":"StanProg","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-StanProg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[],"displayName":"\u0421\u0442\u0430\u043d"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StanProg-2012-03-14T21:57:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Сале-2012-03-14T22:36:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> Омръзна ми да обяснявам защо подобно предложение е безсмислено. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител:Сале">Сале</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Потребител беседа:Сале">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Сале-2012-03-14T22:36:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Сале-2012-03-14T22:36:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T22:36:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u0421\u0430\u043b\u0435-2012-03-14T22:36:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Сале-2012-03-14T22:36:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ShadeOfGrey-2012-03-14T22:38:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:ShadeOfGrey" title="Потребител:ShadeOfGrey">ShadeOfGrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:ShadeOfGrey" title="Потребител беседа:ShadeOfGrey">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-ShadeOfGrey-2012-03-14T22:38:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ShadeOfGrey-2012-03-14T22:38:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T22:38:00.000Z","author":"ShadeOfGrey","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ShadeOfGrey-2012-03-14T22:38:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ShadeOfGrey-2012-03-14T22:38:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Добри-2012-03-15T00:29:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> --Количеството не е мерило за качеството.<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител:Добри">Добри</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Потребител беседа:Добри">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Добри-2012-03-15T00:29:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Добри-2012-03-15T00:29:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T00:29:00.000Z","author":"\u0414\u043e\u0431\u0440\u0438","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u0414\u043e\u0431\u0440\u0438-2012-03-15T00:29:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Добри-2012-03-15T00:29:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simin-2012-03-15T06:05:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Simin" title="Потребител:Simin">Simin</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Simin" title="Потребител беседа:Simin">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Simin-2012-03-15T06:05:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simin-2012-03-15T06:05:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T06:05:00.000Z","author":"Simin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simin-2012-03-15T06:05:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simin-2012-03-15T06:05:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Подпоручикъ-2012-03-15T06:18:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8A" title="Потребител:Подпоручикъ">Подпоручикъ</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%8A" title="Потребител беседа:Подпоручикъ">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Подпоручикъ-2012-03-15T06:18:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:18, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Подпоручикъ-2012-03-15T06:18:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T06:18:00.000Z","author":"\u041f\u043e\u0434\u043f\u043e\u0440\u0443\u0447\u0438\u043a\u044a","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u041f\u043e\u0434\u043f\u043e\u0440\u0443\u0447\u0438\u043a\u044a-2012-03-15T06:18:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Подпоручикъ-2012-03-15T06:18:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LeeKeoma-2012-03-15T06:49:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> -- с аргументите на Ивелин. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:LeeKeoma" title="Потребител:LeeKeoma">LeeKeoma</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:LeeKeoma" title="Потребител беседа:LeeKeoma">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-LeeKeoma-2012-03-15T06:49:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:49, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LeeKeoma-2012-03-15T06:49:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T06:49:00.000Z","author":"LeeKeoma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LeeKeoma-2012-03-15T06:49:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LeeKeoma-2012-03-15T06:49:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-15T07:32:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. Напълно съгласна съм с предходните аргументи.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Потребител:Алиса Селезньова">Алиса Селезньова</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Потребител беседа:Алиса Селезньова">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-15T07:32:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-15T07:32:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T07:32:00.000Z","author":"\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430 \u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-15T07:32:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-15T07:32:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T16:52:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. Съгласен с горните аргументи, като подкрепям най-вече тези на <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE" title="Потребител:Мико">Мико</a> и първата част от тези на <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Velo_Vrbata" title="Потребител:Velo Vrbata"> Velo</a> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T16:52:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T16:52:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T16:52:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T16:52:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T16:52:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spiritia-2012-03-15T17:26:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> per Мико. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Spiritia" title="Потребител:Spiritia">Спири</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Spiritia" title="Потребител беседа:Spiritia">··· - - - ···</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Spiritia-2012-03-15T17:26:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spiritia-2012-03-15T17:26:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T17:26:00.000Z","author":"Spiritia","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Spiritia-2012-03-15T17:26:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[],"displayName":"\u0421\u043f\u0438\u0440\u0438"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spiritia-2012-03-15T17:26:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> най-малкото защото аз съм една от тях, а администратор не искам да ставам (то няма и един човек, който ще ми гласува доверие за това де, ама нейсе :-) ако ще изменяме "устава", за мен по-логична промяна е да има въртележка на администратори, да се избират с мандат за определено време, за да не се чувстват всемогъщи, а най-добрите, на които се поднови мандата 2-3 пъти, могат да остават за неограничено време.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Joyradost" title="Потребител:Joyradost">Радостина</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Joyradost","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u0420\u0430\u0434\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438\u043d\u0430"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z-Против"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Ами ето, аз сега гласувам за теб, но ти гласуваш против себе си :)--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z-Joyradost-2012-03-15T19:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z"></span>Радостина множество пъти е заявялала, че не иска да е администратор. Наистина няма да е зле след като прочетете принципите на Уикипедия да се запознаете и с основните позиции на най-активните редактори, още повече преди да ги предлагате вкупом за администратори. −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z"></span>Предложеното правило очевидно променя самия принцип на моделиране в Уикипедия и подканва редакторите да преразгледат досегашното си отношение към администрирането. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T21:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Да бе да. И те ще преразгледат отношението си, защото мнозинството е решило те да си преразгледат отношението. От това по-голяма диктатура здраве му кажи. −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z"></span>Само обсъждаме как би могла да се подобри работата в Уикипедия за да привлече повече редактори. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z"></span>Ако някой бива привлечен само от възможността да е администратор, то по-добре да не го привличаме за проекта. Изказахте поредната безмислица; моля ви спрете защото само се излагате. Добронамерен съвет. −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z"></span>А ако искахме да привлечем повече войници в армията, по тази логика трябва да обещаем на възможните кандидати че щом влязат в казармата могат лесно да станат генерали. Абе Станко... --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Vasilcho" title="Потребител:Vasilcho">Василчо</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Vasilcho" title="Потребител беседа:Vasilcho">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:43, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z","author":"Vasilcho","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u0412\u0430\u0441\u0438\u043b\u0447\u043e"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T22:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z"></span>Не сте разбрали и двамата - необходими са повече администратори, за да имат възможността да отделят повече внимание на новите редактори, с по-рядка употреба на шаблона за бързо триене. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z","c-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T22:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"></span>Вие не сте разбрал, Stanqo. Статиите, маркирани с шаблон за бързо триене не са стотици, нито хиляди. Те най-често биват изтривани за отрицателно време. Така че не това хаби времето на администраторите. С вашите реплики наляво-надясно, с които показвате че не разбирате основните принципи на Уикипедия, хабите не само администраторско, но и редакторско време. Много повече, отколкото ще спечелят всички редактори, ако направеното от вас предложение бъде прието. −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z"></span>В случая пак не ме разбра - става въпрос за подобряване на политиката спрямо новите редактори, така че да намалее процентът на отказващите се да редактират. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:19, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:19:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-15T23:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"></span>Аз нямам никакви админ права, но това по никакъв начин не ми пречи да контактувам с новите потребители, да им обръщам внимание, когато имат затруднения с боравенето на инструментите или да им давам напътствия за неща, които не разбират. Това може да прави всеки един добър потребител на У. И разберете - админът не е нищо повече от обикновен редактор, който може да борави с малко повече инструменти. Не е нужно да си админ за да напътстваш нови потребители. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Потребител:Ивелин">Ивелин</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Потребител беседа:Ивелин">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z","author":"\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T22:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z"></span>Според мен точно забърсването на статиите на новите редактори ги отказва да редактират. Ако има повече администратори, те ще имат повече време да изчакват и следят спорните случаи. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span>Какво разбираш под забърсване и каква ще бъде разликата между това ТИ като обикновен потребител изчакаш, и ТИ като администратор. Каква ще е разликата в поведението ти - един път като редактор и един път като админ? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Потребител:Ивелин">Ивелин</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD" title="Потребител беседа:Ивелин">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z","author":"\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z"></span>В руската уикипедия изчакват новите редактори цял месец, докато при нас триенето в много от случаите е светкавично и това отблъсква новите редактори. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z-\u0418\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438\u043d-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:46:00.000Z-Ивелин-2012-03-15T23:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span>Разбира това, че ежедневно се трият статии на новопостъпили редактори, които си нямат представа какво е шаблон, препратка или източник. И виждайки какво се случва с опита им да допринесат в Уикипедия, те биват отблъснати и губим поредния редактор. Срамно е, че броят на активните редактори тук е толкова оскъден.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител:Rebelheartous">Rebelheartous</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Rebelheartous" title="Потребител беседа:Rebelheartous">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z","author":"Rebelheartous","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelheartous-2012-03-16T09:58:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span>Т.е, тъй като ние с теб не сме администратори, нямаме достатъчно „време за да изчакваме и следим спорните случаи“?! --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Vasilcho" title="Потребител:Vasilcho">Василчо</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Vasilcho" title="Потребител беседа:Vasilcho">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Vasilcho","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u0412\u0430\u0441\u0438\u043b\u0447\u043e"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Като забършат някоя статия иди я следи после. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":14,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:39:00.000Z-Vasilcho-2012-03-15T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b> достатъчно изписах по тази тема в предварителното „обсъждане“. --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. Автоматичното даване на права, не изключва такива да бъдат дадени на бота ми, който спокойно мога да пусна през основната си (или нова) сметка с цел създаване на дребни, но много приноси, които могат да изглеждат като реални редакции. Отделно, като администратори оценяваме хора, не брой редакции. Някой допълнителни съображения съм изложил в коментара си по-долу. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:BloodIce" title="Потребител:BloodIce">BloodIce</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:BloodIce" title="Потребител беседа:BloodIce">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z","author":"BloodIce","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darsie-2012-03-17T07:30:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Darsie" title="Потребител:Darsie">Darsie</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Darsie" title="Потребител беседа:Darsie">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Darsie-2012-03-17T07:30:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darsie-2012-03-17T07:30:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T07:30:00.000Z","author":"Darsie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Darsie-2012-03-17T07:30:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darsie-2012-03-17T07:30:00.000Z-Против"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Спасимир-2012-03-20T19:49:00.000Z-Против"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Против</b>. За някои редактори предварителният преглед на статията не съществува. Промяната на всяка буква е принос, и ако това предложение се приеме (но не и сега), то аз мога не само да съм в първите 40, но дори и да съм на първо място по брой приноси. Не е невъзможно, но точно за това гласувам „против“, за да не се налага да го правя аз или някой друг. Поздрави за идеята и много те моля използвай „Предварителен преглед“. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80" title="Потребител:Спасимир">Спасимир</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80" title="Потребител беседа:Спасимир">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Спасимир-2012-03-20T19:49:00.000Z-Против" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 20 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Спасимир-2012-03-20T19:49:00.000Z-Против"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T19:49:00.000Z","author":"\u0421\u043f\u0430\u0441\u0438\u043c\u0438\u0440","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u0421\u043f\u0430\u0441\u0438\u043c\u0438\u0440-2012-03-20T19:49:00.000Z-\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Спасимир-2012-03-20T19:49:00.000Z-Против"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ" data-mw-thread-id="h-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ-Гласове-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.93.D0.BB.D0.B0.D1.81.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.B5.2C_.D0.BD.D0.B5.D0.B2.D0.B0.D0.BB.D0.B8.D0.B4.D0.BD.D0.B8_.D0.BF.D0.BE_.D0.A3:.D0.9F.D0.93"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ-Гласове-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Гласове, невалидни по <a href="/wiki/%D0%A3:%D0%9F%D0%93" class="mw-redirect" title="У:ПГ">У:ПГ</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ-Гласове-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quake44-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ"></span>--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Quake44" title="Потребител:Quake44">Quake44</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Quake44" title="Потребител беседа:Quake44">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Quake44-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 22 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quake44-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Quake44","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Quake44-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z-\u0413\u043b\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435,_\u043d\u0435\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0434\u043d\u0438_\u043f\u043e_\u0423:\u041f\u0413","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quake44-2012-03-22T17:17:00.000Z-Гласове,_невалидни_по_У:ПГ"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u041a\u043e\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0430\u0440\u0438-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z-\u041a\u043e\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0430\u0440\u0438"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"\u041a\u043e\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0430\u0440\u0438","linkableTitle":"\u041a\u043e\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0430\u0440\u0438"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z-Коментари"></span>Аз не разбирам какво е точно предложението. От първото изречение, което би трябвало да го формулира - <i>Първите 40 редактора с най-големи приноси, които на практика са и най-активните редактори.</i> - не се разбира много, все едно свършва в средата. Първите 40 редактора какво ще да ги правим? Автоматично да стават администратори, автоматично да се гласуват или автоматично да се питат дали искат? Помня, че Потребител:Stanqo смята, че първите 40 стават за администратори, но не разбирам в какво точно се изразява предложението.--<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Потребител:Алиса Селезньова">Алиса Селезньова</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0" title="Потребител беседа:Алиса Селезньова">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z-Коментари" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z-Коментари"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","author":"\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z-Коментари"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:31:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span>Аз се чудя само как Stanqo не разбира абсурдността :) --<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Nadina" title="Потребител:Nadina"><span style="color:#556B2F">Nadina</span></a></i> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:31:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:31:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Nadina","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:31:00.000Z-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nadina-2012-03-14T20:31:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span>Автоматично да им се дават права, ако добре съм разбрал Stanqo. −<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:PetaRZ" title="Потребител:PetaRZ">PetaRZ</a> <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:PetaRZ" title="Потребител беседа:PetaRZ">¬</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 14 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z","author":"PetaRZ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z","c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z","c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"></span>Относно думите на <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a>: „Гласувам доверието си на хората написали основната част на Уикипедия. „Те, и всички ние, просто искаме Уикипедия да е колкото е възможно по-добра енциклопедия.“<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a>“<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T19:04:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"></span>Stanqo... Първо, количество не означава качество! Вярно, казано е "Количествените натрупвания водят до качествени изменения", но никъде не е упоменато какви са качествените изменения - положителни или отрицателни. Ще спра дотук по този въпрос... Второ, сигурен ли си, че наистина знаеш кои са хората, "написали основната част на Уикипедия"?! И изобщо, наистина ли не осъзнаваш цялата абсурдност на всичко това?! --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z"></span>Погледни на страницата със статистиката - от 1 - Мико до 40 - A_nedev са 32-ма актуални най-активни редактора с относителен дял 653414/1496395 = 43.67% --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T19:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z"></span>Това за коя година? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-15T20:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z"></span>За цялото време - <a class="external free" href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBG.htm">http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBG.htm</a> --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T21:05:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T20:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"></span>Не разбираш, нали? Не е въпросът за приноси в определен период от време, а за качеството на приносите! Повече - след някой ден, защото днес съм вбесена горгона и не искам нещо да повлияе на обективността ми. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T21:14:00.000Z-PetaRZ-2012-03-14T21:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/14px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="14" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/21px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/28px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Коментар:</b>. Грешна е логиката, че първите 40 са написали Уикипедия. Има редактори, които правят множество дребни, понякога и незначителни промени в статиите и съответно техния "редактометър" е голям, но не бих казал, че те са написали Уикипедия. Има редактори, които правят цяла статия наведнъж (понякога дори в друго именно пространство) и тогава запазват приноса си (който е един или крайно малко на брой за статия). Тези хора са с относително по-малък брой редакции (тъй като не могат да напишат 10 000 статии от по 30К за разумно кратко време). Тези редактори са тези които са написали Уикипедия (ако използваме терминологията използвана от <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a>, задено с тези, които са с по-балансиран подход от крайностите. И двата (трите) типа редактори са изключително полезни (и трябва да присъстват), но това показва, че не трябва да прилагаме количествен критерий. Отделни други аргументи са първо, дали добър и активен редактор е подходящ за администратор и второ важно нещо при наличие на първото е дали му се занимава. За това предложението е изключително не добро, да не кажа вредно за проекта. Като алтернатива, предлагам да се пуснат едно 20-30 запитвания към тези от първите 40, който не са вече администратори и се види дали имат интерес. Ако имат, общността ще реши дали са подходящи. Още един малък детайл е, че списъка който е приложен е крайно неактуален и мисля, че отместването е от порядъка от половин година (което не важи за статистиките по-горе). За мен това предложение абсолютно игнорира конкретните личности, което би ме накарало евентуално да пробвам бота си в нова сметка за админитстратор. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:BloodIce" title="Потребител:BloodIce">BloodIce</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:BloodIce" title="Потребител беседа:BloodIce">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z","author":"BloodIce","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z"></span>Само с забележката, че „дали му се занимава“ не би трябвало да е критерий, тъй като, както самите администратори наскоро подчертаха, хората с администраторски правомощия не са длъжни да правят нищо. Което не означава, че няма да е полезно ако не особено активен администратор от време на време извърши и някоя администраторска дейност, когато се налага. --—<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:V111P" title="Потребител:V111P">V111P</a> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z","author":"V111P","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z-BloodIce-2012-03-16T10:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z"></span>Смисълът на занимава е "дали му се хабят нерви, докато го псуват по беседи, да е вежлив в отговорите и адекватен в преценките и действията". Да не забравяме, че обгрижването на вандалите (в които общността вижда редактори) е вариант на занимавка за убиване на свободното време. Морални стимули за администраторски действия няма, напротив точно обратното. Т.е. желанието за занимавка, според мен е важно. <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Usmivka.png" class="mw-file-description" title=":-)"><img alt=":-)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Usmivka.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span> Напълно съм съгласен, че и едно административно действие на година, ако е правилно винаги е плюс, на принципа че 1 000 001 е по-голямо от 1 000 000. <a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:BloodIce" title="Потребител:BloodIce">BloodIce</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:BloodIce" title="Потребител беседа:BloodIce">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z","author":"BloodIce","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BloodIce-2012-03-16T21:44:00.000Z-V111P-2012-03-16T21:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vodnokon4e-2012-03-16T20:46:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/14px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="14" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/21px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/28px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Коментар:</b>. Напълно разбирам Станчо, че иска да увеличи броя на редакторите и администраторите, но не смятам, че това е начина. Аз също искам да има повече редактори и админи, но не можем да превърнем автоматично количеството в качество. Или поне не е това ночина (и аз не знам какъв е начина). Затова съм против. Но както виждам, няма смисъл да гласувам, тъй като мнозинството също е против. Поздрави все пак за инициативата. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Vodnokon4e" title="Потребител:Vodnokon4e">Vodnokon4e</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Vodnokon4e" title="Потребител беседа:Vodnokon4e">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Vodnokon4e-2012-03-16T20:46:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vodnokon4e-2012-03-16T20:46:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T20:46:00.000Z","author":"Vodnokon4e","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vodnokon4e-2012-03-16T20:46:00.000Z-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vodnokon4e-2012-03-16T20:46:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-28T05:39:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/14px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="14" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/21px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/28px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Коментар:</b> Рано или късно ще се наложи въвеждането на обективни критерии, а обективните критерии се крепят на факти. Използването единствено на субективни критерии на тесен кръг от хора води до капсулиране и затихване. Не трябва да се блокира естественото желание на хората да допринасят за Уикипедия, защото тя ще остане жива и актуална само когато отговаря на изискванията на времето. Все едно - един ден това ще се разбере. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-28T05:39:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 28 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-28T05:39:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-28T05:39:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-28T05:39:00.000Z-\u0410\u043b\u0438\u0441\u0430_\u0421\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043d\u044c\u043e\u0432\u0430-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-28T05:39:00.000Z-Алиса_Селезньова-2012-03-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"\u0417\u0430 \u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","linkableTitle":"\u0417\u0430 \u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"}--><h2 id="За_изяснение" data-mw-thread-id="h-За_изяснение-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.97.D0.B0_.D0.B8.D0.B7.D1.8F.D1.81.D0.BD.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-За_изяснение-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"></span>За изяснение<span data-mw-comment-end="h-За_изяснение-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"],"uneditableSection":true}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z","timestamp":"2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"\u0417\u0430 \u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","linkableTitle":"\u0417\u0430 \u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435"}--></div></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-За_изяснение"></span>Ще прехвърля част от разговора тук, за да може наистина да се добие по-пълна яснота.<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) 00</dt> <dd>14, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Stanqo, лично аз съм съм привлякъл повече нови качествени редактори не като администратор, а като <b>обикновен редактор</b>. И се стремя да бъда кротък и като администратор... Ха! Сега виждам: Нека хипотетично предположим, че си "администратор", как би постъпил <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%84%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="ЛайфМел медицински пчелен мед (страницата не съществува)">ето тук, където вече си взел отношение</a></b>, с оглед и привличането на нов редактор. Апропо, въпросът не е само към теб, а към всички "мераклии" --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-За_изяснение" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-За_изяснение"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z-За_изяснение"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"></span>В този случай редакторът е съвсем нов и може да се изчака няколко дена да се ориентира в правилата. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 15 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-15T23:51:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-15T23:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-За_изяснение"></span>Съгласен, съвсем нов е. Неговата статия харесва ли ти и ако да, защо? Ако не, пак защо? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a></dd></dl> <p>(<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-За_изяснение" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-За_изяснение"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-\u0417\u0430_\u0438\u0437\u044f\u0441\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435","replies":["c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z","c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z-За_изяснение"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"></span>Темата изглежда значима защото се отнася за медицински мед получен по специална технология, който според някои източници се използва за лечението на онкоболни с доказан лечебен ефект чрез многогодишни клинични изследвания. Трябва само да се помогне на редактора с изложението. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Stanqo" title="Потребител:Stanqo">Stanqo</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Stanqo" title="Потребител беседа:Stanqo">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z","author":"Stanqo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z","c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"></span>Не, моля отговорѝ какво ти харесва и какво не ти харесва в тази статия! Ама директно! И как евентуално би помогнал на редактора. --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:18, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T01:18:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"></span>И имай предвид, че трябва да побързаш, защото иначе може да създадеш прецедент... --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z-Stanqo-2012-03-16T01:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z"></span>Още една задачка: Има две нови статии от тази сутрин: <a href="/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Северно Сулавеси">Северно Сулавеси</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8&action=history">история</a>)и <a href="/wiki/%D0%AE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8" title="Южно Сулавеси">Южно Сулавеси</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%AE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8&action=history">история</a>). Кое не е наред в тях и би вкарало евентуалния читател в заблуда? --<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Peterdx" title="Потребител:Peterdx">Peterdx</a> (<a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Peterdx" title="Потребител беседа:Peterdx">беседа</a>) <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:22, 16 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z","author":"Peterdx","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterdx-2012-03-16T04:22:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T03:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"></span>Stanqo, в момента си на 53-то място в посочваната за пример от теб <a class="external text" href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBG.htm">статистика</a>. След месец сигурно ще си в мечтаните 40 (перспективни администратори, които са "написали" Уикипедия). Как мислиш, защо при положение, че не си одобрен нито за автопатрул, нито за патрульор, ще ставаш за администратор?--<i><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB:Uroboros" title="Потребител:Uroboros">Uroboros</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0:Uroboros" title="Потребител беседа:Uroboros">беседа</a></sup> <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8#c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:25, 17 март 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"><!--__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__--><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z","author":"Uroboros","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uroboros-2012-03-17T15:25:00.000Z-Peterdx-2012-03-16T00:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Препратки" data-mw-thread-id="h-Препратки"><span id=".D0.9F.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.BA.D0.B8"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Препратки"></span>Препратки<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Препратки"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\u041f\u0440\u0435\u043f\u0440\u0430\u0442\u043a\u0438","replies":[],"uneditableSection":true}}--></div> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/1ANYPERS.shtml">http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/1ANYPERS.shtml</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Уикипедия:Бъдете смели</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-3">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Уикипедия:Бъдете смели</span> </li> </ol></div> </div> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐598c47c764‐fgfsm Cached time: 20241119012900 Cache expiry: 2592000 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.068 seconds CPU time usage: 0.222 seconds Real time usage: 0.305 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 583/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 5588/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3854/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 7/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 1150/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.003/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 626994/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 47.527 1 -total 36.31% 17.255 1 Шаблон:Потребител 8.96% 4.259 4 Шаблон:Br 7.96% 3.781 1 Шаблон:Архив_уикипедия_гласуване 6.77% 3.219 1 Шаблон:Цитат 6.66% 3.167 1 Шаблон:Архив-край 6.64% 3.155 27 Шаблон:Против 6.10% 2.897 3 Шаблон:За 6.07% 2.884 3 Шаблон:Коментар --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key bgwiki:pcache:idhash:390710-0!canonical and timestamp 20241119012900 and revision id 11878104. 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