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dir="ltr"><span data-mw-thread-id="h--2008-07-29T21:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--2008-07-29T21:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h--2008-07-29T21:28:00.000Z"></span></span><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qrystal-2008-07-29T21:28:00.000Z"></span>I object to this degree being referred to as <a href="/wiki/Bullshit" title="Bullshit">BS</a>! :P --<a href="/wiki/User:Qrystal" title="User:Qrystal">Qrystal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qrystal" title="User talk:Qrystal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-Qrystal-2008-07-29T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qrystal-2008-07-29T21:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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id="c-DavidFarmbrough-2009-04-08T05:34:00.000Z-Isn't_BS_short_for_Bullshit?"></span>Bachelor Of Science is usually abbreviated to BsC, surely! <a href="/wiki/User:DavidFarmbrough" title="User:DavidFarmbrough">DavidFarmbrough</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DavidFarmbrough" title="User talk:DavidFarmbrough">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-DavidFarmbrough-2009-04-08T05:34:00.000Z-Isn't_BS_short_for_Bullshit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DavidFarmbrough-2009-04-08T05:34:00.000Z-Isn't_BS_short_for_Bullshit?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation...","timestamp":"2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Abbreviation...-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abbreviation...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Abbreviation...&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation..."></span>This really needs to be changed... the prospect of having a degree which is abbreviated to something that is a lot like "<a href="/wiki/Bullshit" title="Bullshit">BS</a>" might turn off some people... BcS would most likely be more suitable in this case... <span style="font-family:Segoe Print;"><a href="/wiki/User:Until_It_Sleeps" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Until It Sleeps"><span style="color:blue;"><b>Until It Sleeps</b></span></a></span> <sup style="font-family:Segoe Print;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Until_It_Sleeps" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Until It Sleeps"><span style="color:green;"><b>Wake me</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z","author":"Until It Sleeps","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation...","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Until_It_Sleeps-2009-07-21T15:26:00.000Z-Abbreviation..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Move-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Move&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Move&quot;}--><h2 id="Move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Move-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Move-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Move-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Move-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z","timestamp":"2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Move-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Move&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Move&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move"></span>I propose a move to <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees" title="Category:Wikipedians with Bachelor of Science degrees">Category:Wikipedians with Bachelor of Science degrees</a></i>. Whether or not "BS" is used in the States, I've only ever heard of BSc (UK). Moving to a non-abbreviation would avoid this <i>bullshit</i>. Thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User:Fribbulus_Xax" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Fribbulus Xax">Fribbulus Xax</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fribbulus_Xax" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Fribbulus Xax">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z","author":"Fribbulus Xax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move","replies":["c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z-Move"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Sure, it will get around the BS != BSc dilemma. <code>+<a href="/wiki/User:Mwtoews" title="User:Mwtoews"><span style="color:#008000;">m</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mwtoews" title="User talk:Mwtoews"><span style="color:#6B3FA0;">t</span></a></code> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z","author":"Mwtoews","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"m"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mwtoews-2009-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fribbulus_Xax-2009-08-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-No_more_BullShit-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;No more BullShit&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;No more BullShit&quot;}--><h2 id="No_more_BullShit" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_more_BullShit-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_more_BullShit-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"></span>No more BullShit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_more_BullShit-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: No more BullShit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-No_more_BullShit-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-No_more_BullShit-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;No more BullShit&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;No more BullShit&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit"></span>This has been discussed here since 2008, with no progress. I am not prepared to be in this category any longer. I am removing myself until such time as we can have a category:Wikipedians with BSc degrees. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Icairns" title="User:Icairns">Ian Cairns</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Icairns" title="User talk:Icairns">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Icairns","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit","replies":["c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ian Cairns"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z-No_more_BullShit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"></span>Errr.. or category:Wikipedians with Bachelor of Science degrees - as per the recent cfr. Thank you to contributors on all sides of the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Icairns" title="User:Icairns">Ian Cairns</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Icairns" title="User talk:Icairns">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_with_Bachelor_of_Science_degrees#c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 16 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z","author":"Icairns","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ian Cairns"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Icairns-2011-11-16T23:14:00.000Z-Icairns-2011-10-14T20:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐7494d5f4d9‐m874r Cached time: 20241121202241 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.008 seconds CPU time usage: 0.018 seconds Real time usage: 0.030 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 31/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 0/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 2/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 0.000 1 -total --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:18637041-0!canonical and timestamp 20241121202241 and revision id 1110104652. 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