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become a participant in this request. (All participants are subject to Arbitration Committee decisions, and the ArbCom will consider each participant's role in the dispute.) Comments are very welcome on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan" title="Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Sortan">Talk page</a>, and will be read, in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Evidence" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan/Evidence">/Evidence</a>. Evidence is more useful than comments. </p><p>Arbitrators will be working on evidence and suggesting proposed decisions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Workshop" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan/Workshop">/Workshop</a> and voting on proposed decisions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Proposed_decision" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan/Proposed decision">/Proposed decision</a>. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Involved_parties" data-mw-thread-id="h-Involved_parties"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Involved_parties"></span>Involved parties<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Involved_parties"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Involved parties"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Involved_parties","replies":["h-Complaining_witness-Involved_parties","h-Nominal_defendant-Involved_parties","h-Summary_by_Jguk-Involved_parties"]}}--></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Complaining_witness" data-mw-thread-id="h-Complaining_witness-Involved_parties"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Complaining_witness-Involved_parties"></span>Complaining witness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Complaining_witness-Involved_parties"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Complaining witness"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Jguk" title="User:Jguk">jguk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jguk" title="User talk:Jguk">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/jguk" title="Special:Contributions/jguk">contribs</a>)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Nominal_defendant" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nominal_defendant-Involved_parties"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nominal_defendant-Involved_parties"></span>Nominal defendant<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nominal_defendant-Involved_parties"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Nominal defendant"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Sortan" title="User:Sortan">Sortan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sortan" title="User talk:Sortan">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sortan" title="Special:Contributions/Sortan">contribs</a>)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Summary_by_Jguk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Summary_by_Jguk-Involved_parties"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Summary_by_Jguk-Involved_parties"></span>Summary by Jguk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Summary_by_Jguk-Involved_parties"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Summary by Jguk"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>This is a request that ArbCom rules (1) that accounts that are not being used to help improve the encyclopaedia can be banned on request to ArbCom; and (2) that <a href="/wiki/User:Sortan" title="User:Sortan">User:Sortan</a> is one such user and should be blocked. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Statement_by_Jguk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Jguk"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Jguk"></span>Statement by Jguk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Jguk"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Statement by Jguk"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Statement_by_Jguk","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Please limit your statement to 500 words </p><p>The biggest cause of major contributors leaving Wikipedia, aside from personal circumstances, is accounts that make very little or no positive contribution to the encyclopaedia, but who are content to argue, harass, harangue and/or make occasional personal attacks. Often they attach themselves to one or two users. This makes it difficult to remove them - they are not clear vandals or widespread trolls (and so do not qualify for automatic bans), however, they are trouble and bring no benefits to the encyclopaedia. They prevent editors with long edit histories that show a long record from making productive edits. They often tend to be litigious, demanding of their “rights” - which itself creates a problem, especially as our writers are here because they wish to write, not because they wish to defend 200+ of their edits in a RfC or ArbCom case. To my mind, it should be clearly stated that where ArbCom finds an account is not here in order to better the encyclopaedia, then it should be blocked. </p><p>I invite ArbCom to do this in the case of <a href="/wiki/User:Sortan" title="User:Sortan">Sortan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sortan" title="User talk:Sortan">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sortan" title="Special:Contributions/Sortan">contribs</a>). This account’s contribution history constitutes evidence demonstrating that this user has made no real contributions of note, but has been involved in many disruptive disputes is in the edit history. I think it is so self-evident that if ArbCom members were to open 10 or 12 of this accounts edits at random, and consider the purposes of those edits, they will see what I am referring to. The underlying principle is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_an_encyclopedia" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia">Wikipedia:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia</a> (which, although semi-humorous refers to our fundamental purposes. I urge ArbCom to take this case to determine (1) that accounts that are not being used to help improve the encyclopaedia can be blocked on request to ArbCom; and (2) that <a href="/wiki/User:Sortan" title="User:Sortan">User:Sortan</a> is one such user and should be blocked. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Statement_by_Sortan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Sortan"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Sortan"></span>Statement by Sortan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Sortan"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Statement by Sortan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Statement_by_Sortan","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Please limit your statement to 500 words </p><p>I would agree that the cause of contributors leaving Wikipedia is persistent trolling from POV pushers, who do nothing but edit war to enforce their particular POVs. Such is the case with <span class="plainlinks userlinks"><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jguk">Jguk</a></span> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jguk" title="User talk:Jguk">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jguk" title="Special:Contributions/Jguk">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Jguk" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Jguk">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Nuke/Jguk" title="Special:Nuke/Jguk">nuke contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Jguk" title="Special:Log/Jguk">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Jguk">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Jguk" title="Special:Block/Jguk">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AJguk">block log</a>)</span></span>. He has made no significant contributions to history articles, yet has engaged in <i>hundreds</i> of edit wars, and <i>thousands</i> of reversions with editors who do contribute. One only has to look at the histories of such articles such as <span id="Sino-Roman_relations"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Sino-Roman_relations" title="Sino-Roman relations">Sino-Roman relations</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Sino-Roman_relations" title="Special:EditPage/Sino-Roman relations">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:Sino-Roman_relations" title="Talk:Sino-Roman relations">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Sino-Roman_relations" title="Special:PageHistory/Sino-Roman relations">history</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a href="/wiki/Special:ProtectPage/Sino-Roman_relations" title="Special:ProtectPage/Sino-Roman relations">protect</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletePage/Sino-Roman_relations" title="Special:DeletePage/Sino-Roman relations">delete</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Sino-Roman_relations&limit=999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sino-Roman_relations&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Sino-Roman+relations">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=Sino-Roman_relations&project=en.wikipedia.org">views</a>)</span> where jguk has engaged in revert wars spanning months against the article creator PHG over date styles. A similar situation occurs at <span id="History_of_the_alphabet"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/History_of_the_alphabet" title="History of the alphabet">History of the alphabet</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/History_of_the_alphabet" title="Special:EditPage/History of the alphabet">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:History_of_the_alphabet" title="Talk:History of the alphabet">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/History_of_the_alphabet" title="Special:PageHistory/History of the alphabet">history</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a href="/wiki/Special:ProtectPage/History_of_the_alphabet" title="Special:ProtectPage/History of the alphabet">protect</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletePage/History_of_the_alphabet" title="Special:DeletePage/History of the alphabet">delete</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/History_of_the_alphabet&limit=999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_alphabet&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=History+of+the+alphabet">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=History_of_the_alphabet&project=en.wikipedia.org">views</a>)</span> where jguk revert wars with article creator Kwamikagami. This pattern is repeated over hundreds of articles where the contributors commit the cardinal sin of disagreeing with jguk over his preferred styles. </p><p>Dates are not the only matter with which jguk revert wars over, but other stylistic differences, including U.S. vs US, styles for royalty, and spelling styles (British vs American spelling). </p><p>Jguk is apparently claiming that my reverting him here [<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olmec&diff=prev&oldid=30404990">[1]</a>] (where he changes <i>start of the Common Era</i> to <i>1 BC</i>, and which is against his arbitration case and for which he received a block (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Jon_Garrett_removing_references_to_Common_Era" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI#Jon_Garrett_removing_references_to_Common_Era</a>)), constitutes "harassment" and "stalking". </p><p>I too would urge acceptance so that Jguk's disruptive history of edit warring over styles can receive greater scrutiny. </p><p>Addendum: </p><p>Jguk's summary is without diffs or links of evidence. He claims I'm litigious, yet I've never started an RFAr (I added myself to Jguk 2, which was started by someone else). Jguk, on the other hand, has been involved in numerous RfArs and RFCs, even when he doesn't edit the subject matter concerned (eg. Instantnood 2). I would please ask for evidence where I've been litigious, or where I've hindered, in any way, Jguk infrequent constructive edits. </p><p>Addendum 2: </p><p>Perhaps David Gerard could enlighten me how my "trolling" jguk caused him to make these edits: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olmec&diff=prev&oldid=30404990">[2]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paganism&diff=prev&oldid=30446958">[3]</a>? </p><p>Perhaps David Gerard could also enlighten me how he "missed" jguk's edits as an anon during his first arbcom case? </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Preliminary_decisions-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","replies":["h-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6\/0\/0\/0)-Preliminary_decisions-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","h-Temporary_injunction_(none)-Preliminary_decisions"],"text":"Preliminary decisions","linkableTitle":"Preliminary decisions"}--></div></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)-Preliminary_decisions-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"><span id="Arbitrators.27_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_.286.2F0.2F0.2F0.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)-Preliminary_decisions-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (6/0/0/0)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)-Preliminary_decisions-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (6/0/0/0)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span>Accept, Jguk continues to engage in edit warring over notation, accept to consider further action <a href="/wiki/User:Fred_Bauder" title="User:Fred Bauder">Fred Bauder</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Fred Bauder","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6\/0\/0\/0)","replies":["c-David_Gerard-2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","c-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Gerard-2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Fred, Sortan's been riding Jguk and trolling the hell out of him. That's what the RFAr is about and it's a problem - <a href="/wiki/User:David_Gerard" title="User:David Gerard">David Gerard</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-David_Gerard-2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Gerard-2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z","author":"David Gerard","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-David_Gerard-2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Gerard-2005-12-07T22:29:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"></span>More specifically, reacting as if to justify past wikien-l concerns on the dangers of bringing a troll to arbitration <a class="external autonumber" href="https://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-March/020524.html">[4]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-March/020779.html">[5]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-March/020784.html">[6]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-March/020799.html">[7]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-March/021161.html">[8]</a> may not be the best idea - <a href="/wiki/User:David_Gerard" title="User:David Gerard">David Gerard</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z","author":"David Gerard","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-07T22:20:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z"></span>Your point is coming through <a href="/wiki/User:Fred_Bauder" title="User:Fred Bauder">Fred Bauder</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 8 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-David_Gerard-2005-12-08T14:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z","author":"Fred Bauder","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z-Fred_Bauder-2005-12-08T14:34:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Epopt-2005-12-09T14:16:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span>Accept <a href="/wiki/User:The_Epopt" title="User:The Epopt">➥the Epopt</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-The_Epopt-2005-12-09T14:16:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Epopt-2005-12-09T14:16:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-09T14:16:00.000Z","author":"The Epopt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Epopt-2005-12-09T14:16:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6\/0\/0\/0)","replies":[],"displayName":"\u27a5the Epopt"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Epopt-2005-12-09T14:16:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jdforrester-2005-12-12T19:01:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span>Accept, though I note that jguk's actions are not of concern to me at first blush. <a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester" title="User:Jdforrester">James F.</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester" title="User talk:Jdforrester">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-Jdforrester-2005-12-12T19:01:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 12 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jdforrester-2005-12-12T19:01:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-Mindspillage-2005-12-15T04:30:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mindspillage-2005-12-15T04:30:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-15T04:30:00.000Z","author":"Mindspillage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mindspillage-2005-12-15T04:30:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6\/0\/0\/0)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mindspillage-2005-12-15T04:30:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Charles_Matthews-2006-02-04T16:24:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span>Accept. <a href="/wiki/User:Charles_Matthews" title="User:Charles Matthews">Charles Matthews</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#c-Charles_Matthews-2006-02-04T16:24:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 4 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Charles_Matthews-2006-02-04T16:24:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dmcdevit-2006-02-18T00:49:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-18T00:49:00.000Z","author":"Dmcdevit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dmcdevit-2006-02-18T00:49:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6\/0\/0\/0)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dmcdevit-2006-02-18T00:49:00.000Z-Arbitrators'_opinions_on_hearing_this_matter_(6/0/0/0)"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Temporary_injunction_(none)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Temporary_injunction_(none)-Preliminary_decisions"><span id="Temporary_injunction_.28none.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Temporary_injunction_(none)-Preliminary_decisions"></span>Temporary injunction (none)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Temporary_injunction_(none)-Preliminary_decisions"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Temporary injunction (none)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="Final_decision" data-mw-thread-id="h-Final_decision"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Final_decision"></span>Final decision<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Final_decision"></span></h1><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Final decision"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><i>All numbering based on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Proposed_decision" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan/Proposed decision">/Proposed decision</a></i> (vote counts and comments are there as well) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Principles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Principles-Final_decision"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Principles-Final_decision"></span>Principles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Principles-Final_decision"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Principles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Principles-Final_decision","replies":["h-Banning_of_obsessive_users-Principles","h-Preferred_styles-Principles"]}}--></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Banning_of_obsessive_users" data-mw-thread-id="h-Banning_of_obsessive_users-Principles"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Banning_of_obsessive_users-Principles"></span>Banning of obsessive users<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Banning_of_obsessive_users-Principles"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Banning of obsessive users"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>1) Users who focus in a disruptive way on an issue or subject may be banned from editing with respect to that issue or subject. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Preferred_styles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Preferred_styles-Principles"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Preferred_styles-Principles"></span>Preferred styles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Preferred_styles-Principles"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Preferred styles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>2) Wikipedia does not mandate styles in many different areas; these include (but are not limited to) American vs. British spelling, date formats, and citation style. Where Wikipedia does not mandate a specific style, editors should not attempt to convert Wikipedia to their own preferred style, nor should they edit articles for the sole purpose of converting them to their preferred style, or removing examples of, or references to, styles which they dislike. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Findings_of_fact" data-mw-thread-id="h-Findings_of_fact-Final_decision"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Findings_of_fact-Final_decision"></span>Findings of fact<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Findings_of_fact-Final_decision"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Findings of fact"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Findings_of_fact-Final_decision","replies":["h-Continued_agitation_by_Jguk_regarding_era_notation-Findings_of_fact","h-Jguk_continues_to_change_notation-Findings_of_fact","h-Focus_of_Sortan_on_era_notation-Findings_of_fact","h-Sortan_has_stalked_Jguk-Findings_of_fact","h-Sortan_appears_to_have_left_Wikipedia-Findings_of_fact"]}}--></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Continued_agitation_by_Jguk_regarding_era_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Continued_agitation_by_Jguk_regarding_era_notation-Findings_of_fact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Continued_agitation_by_Jguk_regarding_era_notation-Findings_of_fact"></span>Continued agitation by Jguk regarding era notation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Continued_agitation_by_Jguk_regarding_era_notation-Findings_of_fact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Continued agitation by Jguk regarding era notation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>1) Jguk has continued his advocacy regarding era notation with POV edits and edit warring at <a href="/wiki/Anno_Domini" title="Anno Domini">Anno Domini</a>, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Anno_Domini#Removal_of_weasel_words" title="Talk:Anno Domini">Talk:Anno_Domini#Removal_of_weasel_words</a>. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Jguk_continues_to_change_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jguk_continues_to_change_notation-Findings_of_fact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jguk_continues_to_change_notation-Findings_of_fact"></span>Jguk continues to change notation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jguk_continues_to_change_notation-Findings_of_fact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Jguk continues to change notation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>2) Jguk has continued, especially in instances not covered by the plain language of the prior remedy to change era notation <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olmec&diff=prev&oldid=30404990">[9]</a> and <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paganism&diff=prev&oldid=30446958">[10]</a>. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Focus_of_Sortan_on_era_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Focus_of_Sortan_on_era_notation-Findings_of_fact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Focus_of_Sortan_on_era_notation-Findings_of_fact"></span>Focus of Sortan on era notation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Focus_of_Sortan_on_era_notation-Findings_of_fact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Focus of Sortan on era notation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>3} From his initial edits Sortan has focused on era notation <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johannesburg&diff=19591888&oldid=19591253">[11]</a> (Note awkward change from "100,000 years ago" to "100,000 BCE") <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AManual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29&diff=19160235&oldid=19148803">[12]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Modena&diff=prev&oldid=19595773">[13]</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Evidence#Uncanny_habit_of_editing_same_articles_as_me" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan/Evidence">Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Evidence#Uncanny_habit_of_editing_same_articles_as_me</a>. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Sortan_has_stalked_Jguk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sortan_has_stalked_Jguk-Findings_of_fact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sortan_has_stalked_Jguk-Findings_of_fact"></span>Sortan has stalked Jguk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sortan_has_stalked_Jguk-Findings_of_fact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Sortan has stalked Jguk"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>4) Sortan has stalked Jguk, editing numerous articles shortly after Jguk, changing era notation, being uncivil, and otherwise unnecessarily harrassing Jguk; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Evidence#Uncanny_habit_of_editing_same_articles_as_me" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sortan/Evidence">Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan/Evidence#Uncanny_habit_of_editing_same_articles_as_me</a>. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 6 to 1 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Sortan_appears_to_have_left_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sortan_appears_to_have_left_Wikipedia-Findings_of_fact"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sortan_appears_to_have_left_Wikipedia-Findings_of_fact"></span>Sortan appears to have left Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sortan_appears_to_have_left_Wikipedia-Findings_of_fact"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Sortan appears to have left Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>5) Sortan has not edited Wikipedia since December 22, 2005. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sortan">[14]</a> </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Remedies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Remedies-Final_decision"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Remedies-Final_decision"></span>Remedies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Remedies-Final_decision"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Remedies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Remedies-Final_decision","replies":["h-Jguk_banned_from_editing_with_respect_to_era_notation-Remedies","h-Sortan_warned_regarding_stalking-Remedies"]}}--></div> <p><small><i>Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Jguk_banned_from_editing_with_respect_to_era_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jguk_banned_from_editing_with_respect_to_era_notation-Remedies"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jguk_banned_from_editing_with_respect_to_era_notation-Remedies"></span>Jguk banned from editing with respect to era notation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jguk_banned_from_editing_with_respect_to_era_notation-Remedies"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Jguk banned from editing with respect to era notation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>1) The remedy at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/jguk_2#Jguk_banned_from_changing_BCE_to_BC_or_CE_to_AD" title="Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/jguk 2">Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/jguk 2#Jguk banned from changing BCE to BC or CE to AD</a> is extended to include editing any page or article which relates to era notation including policy pages. He may make no change in any article from one notation to another, nor may he remove "BCE" or "CE" notations, or references to "Common Era", from any article. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 7 to 0 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Sortan_warned_regarding_stalking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sortan_warned_regarding_stalking-Remedies"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sortan_warned_regarding_stalking-Remedies"></span>Sortan warned regarding stalking<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sortan_warned_regarding_stalking-Remedies"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Sortan warned regarding stalking"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>2) Sortan is warned regarding stalking Jguk. He is welcome to make independent edits, but not to follow Jguk around. </p> <dl><dd><i>Passed 6 to 1 at 09:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Documentation_of_bans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Documentation_of_bans-Final_decision"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Documentation_of_bans-Final_decision"></span>Documentation of bans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Documentation_of_bans-Final_decision"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Documentation of bans"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Documentation_of_bans-Final_decision","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Place here the basis of any action taken under the provision of any remedy under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Probation" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Probation">Wikipedia:Probation</a> imposed in this matter. 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