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colspan="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid #AAA;text-align:left;font-size:120%">Public transport access space </th></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left"><a href="/wiki/Proposal_process#Proposal_status_overview_list" title="Proposal process">Proposal status</a>: </th> <td><a href="/wiki/Category:Proposals_with_%22Proposed%22_status" title="Category:Proposals with "Proposed" status">Proposed</a> (<a href="/wiki/Category:Proposed_features_under_way" title="Category:Proposed features under way">under way</a>) </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left">Proposed by: </th> <td><a href="/wiki/User:Miklcct" title="User:Miklcct">Miklcct</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left">Tagging: </th> <td><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/w/index.php?title=Tag:public_transport%3Daccess_space&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tag:public transport=access space (page does not exist)"><bdi>access_space</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left">Applies to: </th> <td><a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a><a href="/wiki/Area" title="area"><img alt="area" src="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/20px-Osm_element_area.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/30px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/40px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 2x" /></a> </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left">Definition: </th> <td>A passenger area within a <i>stop place</i> such as a concourse <p>or booking hall, immigration hall or security area that is accessible by passengers, but without a direct access to vehicles. </p> </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left">Statistics: </th> <td><iframe frameborder="0" width="220" height="100" src="//taginfo.openstreetmap.org/embed/tag?key=public_transport&value=access_space"></iframe> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left">Rendered as: </th> <td>None </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left"><span class="plainlinks"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposals_with_%22Draft%22_status">Draft</a></span> started: </th> <td>2024-10-16 </td></tr> <tr> <th style="text-align:left"><a href="/wiki/Proposal_talk:Public_transport_access_space" title="Proposal talk:Public transport access space">RFC</a> start: </th> <td>2024-10-16 </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br /> </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Proposal"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Proposal</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Rationale"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Rationale</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Tagging"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Tagging</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Examples"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Examples</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Rendering"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Rendering</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Features/Pages_affected"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Features/Pages affected</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#External_discussions"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">External discussions</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Comments"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Comments</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Proposal">Proposal</span></h2> <p>I propose to use the tag <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<bdi>access_place</bdi></tt> to tag an <i>access place</i>, which, in Transmodel terminology, means a passenger area within a <i>stop place</i> (commonly known as a station, an airport, etc.) such as a concourse or booking hall, immigration hall or security area that is accessible by passengers, but without a direct access to vehicles. </p><p>There can be multiple <i>quay</i>s accessible from an <i>access place</i>, and there can be multiple <i>access place</i>s within a <i>stop place</i>. </p><p>Added on 20 Oct: This tag should be used at the place where a passenger is expected to check which platform the service departs from. If there is no need to check the platform code, there is no need to use this tag. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Rationale">Rationale</span></h2> <p>There are currently no documented tags for <i>access place</i>s. Such a tag is needed for public transport routing purpose. </p><p>The following is a summary of the correspondence between Transmodel and OSM tagging for public transport infrastructure. </p> <table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr> <th>Transmodel</th> <th>OSM </th></tr> <tr> <td><i>stop area</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Relation" title="relation"><img alt="relation" src="/w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/20px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/30px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/40px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_area" title="Tag:public transport=stop area"><bdi>stop_area</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>stop place</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a><a href="/wiki/Area" title="area"><img alt="area" src="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/20px-Osm_element_area.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/30px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/40px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstation" title="Tag:public transport=station"><bdi>station</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>stop place entrance</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:railway" title="Key:railway">railway</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dsubway_entrance" title="Tag:railway=subway entrance"><bdi>subway_entrance</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>access space</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a><a href="/wiki/Area" title="area"><img alt="area" src="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/20px-Osm_element_area.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/30px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/40px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 2x" /></a> ?? </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>quay</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a><a href="/wiki/Way" title="way"><img alt="way" src="/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Osm_element_way.svg/20px-Osm_element_way.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Osm_element_way.svg/30px-Osm_element_way.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/e/ee/Osm_element_way.svg/40px-Osm_element_way.svg.png 2x" /></a><a href="/wiki/Area" title="area"><img alt="area" src="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/20px-Osm_element_area.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/30px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/40px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dplatform" title="Tag:public transport=platform"><bdi>platform</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>boarding position</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_position" title="Tag:public transport=stop position"><bdi>stop_position</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>line</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Relation" title="relation"><img alt="relation" src="/w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/20px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/30px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/40px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:type" title="Key:type">type</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:type%3Droute_master" class="mw-redirect" title="Tag:type=route master"><bdi>route_master</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr> <tr> <td><i>route</i></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Relation" title="relation"><img alt="relation" src="/w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/20px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/30px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/4/48/Osm_element_relation.svg/40px-Osm_element_relation.svg.png 2x" /></a> <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:type" title="Key:type">type</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:type%3Droute" class="mw-redirect" title="Tag:type=route"><bdi>route</bdi></a></tt> </td></tr></tbody></table> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Tagging">Tagging</span></h2> <p>I propose to use <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<bdi>access_space</bdi></tt> to tag a Transmodel <i>access space</i>, which may be a concourse, immigration hall, etc., within a <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstation" title="Tag:public transport=station"><bdi>station</bdi></a></tt> where passengers wait for their vehicles, before proceeding to the <i>quay</i> to board. </p><p>It should be mapped as either a <a href="/wiki/Node" title="node"><img alt="node" src="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/20px-Osm_element_node.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/30px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/7/76/Osm_element_node.svg/40px-Osm_element_node.svg.png 2x" /></a> or an <a href="/wiki/Area" title="area"><img alt="area" src="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/20px-Osm_element_area.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" style="vertical-align: text-bottom" srcset="/w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/30px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/e/e6/Osm_element_area.svg/40px-Osm_element_area.svg.png 2x" /></a> connected to the street network and the <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dplatform" title="Tag:public transport=platform"><bdi>platform</bdi></a></tt>s, possibly with a <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:name" title="Key:name">name</a></bdi>=*</tt> (if that <i>access space</i> has a name) and a <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:ref" title="Key:ref">ref</a></bdi>=*</tt> to match the national stop database. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Examples">Examples</span></h2> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Pancras_railway_station">St Pancras International railway station</a> has 4 distinct group of platforms with separate access: Midland, International, High Speed Domestic, and Thameslink, apart from Thameslink which is in its own low-level station (hence can be tagged as a separate <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<a href="/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstation" title="Tag:public transport=station"><bdi>station</bdi></a></tt>), the other three is physically on the ground as one station, but without a dedicated tag, it is impossible to distinguish between these three different accesses to platforms unless the exact platform is given (which is not always the case in train timetables). </p><p>With this proposal, we should put one <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Key:public_transport" title="Key:public transport">public_transport</a></bdi>=<bdi>access_space</bdi></tt> just behind each fare gates (for Eurostar, the waiting hall after immigration), such that routing software can tell people to wait for a train there. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Rendering">Rendering</span></h2> <p>None needed. </p> <h2><span id="Features.2FPages_affected"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Features/Pages_affected">Features/Pages affected</span></h2> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Public_transport" title="Public transport">Public transport</a></li> <li><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a 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