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Pointing and mocking is their bread and butter.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95163/Thats-not-racially-transcendent#3256720">8:51 PM</a> on August 26, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95080/YouTube-Cat-Lady-has-been-identified" target="_self">YouTube Cat Lady has been identified.</a> <blockquote>In defense of this comment: making an interjection about the horrible treatment and killing of animals for meat etc is not a non-sequitur or a derail. It's absolutely germane to the ongoing conversation about what punishment this woman deserves for abusing an animal. It's a call for perspective, which is necessary especially when most of us are so viscerally disgusted by the video and despairing about the lack of justice. <br> <br> But meting out justice shouldn't be *just* about… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95080/YouTube-Cat-Lady-has-been-identified#3251970">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95080/YouTube-Cat-Lady-has-been-identified#3251970">12:07 PM</a> on August 24, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95033/Cmon-Mom-Go-Away-Already" target="_self">C'mon Mom, Go Away Already!</a> <blockquote>I've found this whole thread very interesting (the article not so much), if a little difficult to understand from the other side of the world. Why is there such a premium on "tough experiences"? Does life become a picnic if someone's parents drive them to school or come to parents weekend and stay till Tuesday? And aren't these the same parents who've paid for college and everything else and are expected to keep their door open for their kids after college? I feel like no one *needs*… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95033/Cmon-Mom-Go-Away-Already#3250592">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95033/Cmon-Mom-Go-Away-Already#3250592">3:38 PM</a> on August 23, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>Halloween Jack, I didn't really have a thesis -- just an opinion that parenting is difficult and its challenges should be understood and dealt with, not dismissed or ridiculed. I did not say, and don't think, that parents should control their childrens' lives, regardless of the money they spend on them. But the sense I often got in the US media, and the reply I very often got when I asked a friend why they were upset with a particular choice their parent made, went something like: it's their… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95033/Cmon-Mom-Go-Away-Already#3250756">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95033/Cmon-Mom-Go-Away-Already#3250756">6:00 PM</a> on August 23, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95019/Indian-voting-machine-researcher-arrested" target="_self">Indian voting machine researcher arrested</a> <blockquote>Pope Guilty, they're not just completely corrupt, they're completely inept - with impunity. While whistleblowers are routinely harassed and sometimes killed. <br> <br> This administration makes me more and more ill every day. The current political backdrop of this story: jaw-dropping corruption and incompetence in the organization of the upcoming Commonwealth Games in Delhi; after the shameful decision of utterly inadequate, tax-payer funded aid to Bhopal victims 16 years after… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95019/Indian-voting-machine-researcher-arrested#3248973">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/95019/Indian-voting-machine-researcher-arrested#3248973">11:59 AM</a> on August 22, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94638/or-their-18456-war-with-America" target="_self">...or their 1845-6 war with America.</a> <blockquote>OMG, the book about the French written for US soldiers is killing me. It paints quite a picture of the soldiers' experience in and opinions of France. Also fascinating how it rigorously argues against prejudice from a really limited standpoint ("don't be prejudiced against the French because they're on our side") and doesn't really facilitate much real understanding… which I suppose is anyway beyond the scope of such a book, or perhaps most books. But it has that scary war perspective… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94638/or-their-18456-war-with-America#3231601">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94638/or-their-18456-war-with-America#3231601">12:48 PM</a> on August 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94640/Overrated-Writers" target="_self">Overrated Writers</a> <blockquote>ifjuly, it hurts me, it really hurts me, that Eugenides is on your list. And that too at the top. Ouch. I read Middlesex in college and it was like storytelling heaven. Also because I damn near agree with all the other names on your list (although I don't think DFW belongs on <em>any</em> lists). Sigh. <br> <br> As for the OP, I've read some of several of the writers on it (Tan, Olds, Lahiri, Ashbery, Gluck, Collins); I think they're not overrated as much as college… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94640/Overrated-Writers#3231422">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94640/Overrated-Writers#3231422">12:05 PM</a> on August 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94624/Or-Merry-the-abuser" target="_self">Or: Merry, the abuser.</a> <blockquote>LOLs. Are these bloggers for real? They're picking on <em>this</em> song? I have to conclude, then, that these people who are so clued in about the latest sociological criticism on gendered power relations in America know very, very little about hip hop and R&B, and worse, that they're ignorant about their own ignorance. I don't know how many people here have read the linked blogs, but it's ridiculous how disconnected they seem to be from the song's intended demographic and how… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94624/Or-Merry-the-abuser#3230903">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94624/Or-Merry-the-abuser#3230903">8:27 AM</a> on August 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><small>Ugh. Had a power cut so I had to post as-is, without editing, or lose it (I have a back-up of mere seconds!)... apologies for the long mess. </small><br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94624/Or-Merry-the-abuser#3230923">8:46 AM</a> on August 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94572/Flooding-in-Pakistan" target="_self">Flooding in Pakistan</a> <blockquote>Goddamn. <br> .<br> <br> I'm wondering <a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/08/severe_flooding_in_pakistan.html#photo4">where</a> <a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/08/severe_flooding_in_pakistan.html#photo7">the</a> <a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/08/severe_flooding_in_pakistan.html#photo31">women</a> <a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/08/severe_flooding_in_pakistan.html#photo36">are</a>.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/94572/Flooding-in-Pakistan#3227583">12:33 PM</a> on August 9, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93956/Trees-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see" target="_self">Trees as far as the eye can see</a> <blockquote>What's the point? I'm seriously confused. I mean this is the stupidest thing ever, obviously, but what's it supposed to <em>do</em>, as an art installation? Encourage mental masturbation? Help us forget reality or make us feel better about holding cups that won't biodegrade for half a millenium? Is it a satire on "human nature" or something?<br> <br> Did a search for "Unlimited Urban Woods" and it turned up some <a href="http://www.nextnature.net/2010/06/unlimited-urban-woods/">really </a><a href="http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/unlimited-urban-woods">weird</a> <a href="http://webecoist.com/2010/07/02/forest-for-the-trees-an-endless-forest-in-the-city/">results</a>. So... I hope someone here will enlighten me.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93956/Trees-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see#3196251">3:00 AM</a> on July 21, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><em>This just is. Either you like it or you don't.</em><br> <br> That's what people say about products, not art. Art gets people talking, as far as I can tell, and most of the time they're talking about what it <em>means</em>. Is that out of fashion now? Does everything come down to just individual "yes" and "no"? <br> <br> If that's the case, then yeah - this particular one makes a lot more sense.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93956/Trees-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see#3196285">4:15 AM</a> on July 21, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><strong>treepour</strong>, never mind. I was wrong to assume that others would find the idea stupid. I'll agree with what you said; no chance that I'll get to have this art experience so I won't say anything more about it.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93956/Trees-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see#3197037">11:40 AM</a> on July 21, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup" target="_self">The storm in a designer teacup</a> <blockquote>Out of all the stuff I read, I only liked <a href="http://www.fastcodesign.com/1661885/are-humanitarian-designers-imperialists-project-h-responds">Emily Pilloton's response</a>. She's trying to make sense (in her work and in the essay) and taking responsibility for what she's doing. What's more ethical than that?<br> <br> The rest seems noise at best, self-serving rationalizations at worst.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189366">8:54 AM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>Is it just me or do graphic designers tend to be a defensive lot? So often trying to enlighten others about "better" design by talking down to them. If I never heard another complain about how one "had to explain to a client why logo design costs more than X dollars" or variations on the theme, I'd be happy. <br> <br> Not to get snarky, but what's the logic behind charging money for a service that has no tangible, and for most small businesses, no testable… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189443">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189443">10:28 AM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>:) I was hoping I'd ruffle someone into actually explaining, so that I could wake up tomorrow a more enlightened appreciater of the logo-designing fraternity. <br> <br> Seriously - this seems to me an economic problem (things being priced at what someone's willing to pay for them, so for a small business every penny spent is an investment; if something costs real money, it has to *make* real money, make more money in fact, to make economic sense) that's not going to go away by… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189456">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189456">10:45 AM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>Yes, but what had that to do with the symbol? It lives on... it still means.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189466">10:58 AM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>All right. I do know a little bit; my sibling studied advertising not long ago and I read a lot of her books... although she doesn't work in the field so I don't know it very well (and dislike what I know). I guess my problem is not just the tangible/intangible divide but also with the bundled assumption that brands actually represent core values. Brands exist in the minds of people - it's all about perception. Some companies might actually be living up to their values, whatever they are and… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189484">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189484">11:18 AM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>Ha, me too. Baaarely made it through college, and that accomplishment will see me through to my thirties. <br> <br> Metafilter: the blind leading the blind. :D<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189489">11:25 AM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>brand new day, I was taking logo design as an extreme (and common) example of what I was talking about regarding design. Also because someone upthread mentioned trying to explain to a client why a logo costs more than $50. I have several friends who work as graphic designers and I don't think at all that what they do is limited to logos or is worthless. I was talking about the difficulty of trying to convince a small business about why it's useful, and also exploring in what ways in might not be… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189553">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189553">12:39 PM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><strong>infini</strong>, that was brilliant! I'm thinking now of all the ways this kind of rationalization (we Americans have unlimited creative power!)</small> is still happening, and I'm wondering how long it might've been going on (is it a kind of Christian evangelism, as kneecapped suggests and I'm inclined to agree with heartily), and <a href="http://www.smithsonianmag.com/specialsections/40th-anniversary/President-Barack-Obama-Why-Im-Optimistic.html">how high up</a> it goes.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189569">12:56 PM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><small>I don't know much about Christian history; I'd probably just call it Orientalism from my POV, but then that's been tied to evangelism too...<small></small></small><br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189572">12:58 PM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>But at least with this kind of imperialism, as opposed to the 'opening trade markets with superior firepower' kind, the only people who are substantially hurt are the idiot foreigners who spent the money. Except in the bulldoze case, obviously.<br> <br> What about natural resources? Industrialization is extremely expensive as it is, add the profit motive to it and there's really no end to human needs in an industrial civilization, or rather to human industry in a civilization… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189753">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3189753">3:24 PM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>AlsoMike: "We've turned Marx on his head, so that global capitalism is portrayed as universalist and homogenizing, destructive to the richness local cultures and traditions. But this is false. Global capitalism is fully postmodern, flexible and adaptable to local conditions so that today we have European social democratic capitalism, US free-market capitalism, Chinese authoritarian capitalism, Indian state capitalism, etc."<br> <br> Wow. I will refrain from getting into… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3190420">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3190420">2:58 AM</a> on July 18, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>infini, AlsoMike's reading is valid within certain boundaries. It's not knowledge, and to presume that it is - to say "That is false"; "This is true" - which is what he did, is not a universally valid conclusion of his reading, IMHO.<br> <br> I'm not a dual citizen but I'm what you might call a global citizen. I've lived in the US for several years, I speak and think in English and I work with US and British companies (and, tangentially to this, but… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3190434">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3190434">3:31 AM</a> on July 18, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>AlsoMike, I'm not offended by your argument, I just disagree with it. I have no reason to take it personally except that what you describe includes me and disregards me and most people I know.<br> <br> The problem that you don't see is the problem of having epistemology as first philosophy instead of ethics as first philosophy. So of course you think you can "know" what it means to be fair <em>on your own terms</em> and just apply that knowledge across the… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3194630">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93834/The-storm-in-a-designer-teacup#3194630">9:18 AM</a> on July 20, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93840/Faith-in-tables" target="_self">Faith in tables</a> <blockquote>It makes me genuinely sad that Karma is part of this table. All that theory posits is that actions are causes, and causes have effects. It's a philosophy, not a prescription - it attempts to explain reality, it does not create laws but attempts to deduce them... and isn't this - and science - all about 'making sense' in precisely that way? Especially because so much else in the table is religious unreason, it's not very bright to include and simultaneously dismiss Karma as a whole in this way.… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93840/Faith-in-tables#3190276">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93840/Faith-in-tables#3190276">10:47 PM</a> on July 17, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>damn dirty ape, you seem to have an extremely narrow and simplistic understanding of religion, which is convenient for your argument that religion is narrow and simplistic. It does not, however, have fuckall to do with the reality of how a "Buddhist" or a "Hindu" <em>thinks</em>, no matter how you define those categories.<br> <br> You should really worry about the absolute lack of compunction with which you are able to not only conflate… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93840/Faith-in-tables#3194538">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93840/Faith-in-tables#3194538">8:36 AM</a> on July 20, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93761/The-future-broken-down" target="_self">The future, broken down</a> <blockquote>Obama is not just a politician any more, he's a leader. Are we so willing to accept lies and contradictions in our leaders? And what kind of a future does that portend? He doesn't <em>have </em>to say anything. He has to do. But he's saying specific things repeatedly as justifications for doing ineffectual and capitalist things as a leader - more of the same stuff that got us into this mess - for keeping power where power is (in government <em>and </em>in money) as long… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93761/The-future-broken-down#3186781">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93761/The-future-broken-down#3186781">10:39 PM</a> on July 15, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93793/You-see-all-Yoknapatawpha-in-the-dying-last-of-day-beneath-you" target="_self">You see all Yoknapatawpha in the dying last of day beneath you.</a> <blockquote>It's 10 am here, and you've already made my day. Thank you!<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93793/You-see-all-Yoknapatawpha-in-the-dying-last-of-day-beneath-you#3186742">9:47 PM</a> on July 15, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93732/I-Write-Like" target="_self">I Write Like</a> <blockquote>Ha. So crap. And this comment, for what it's worth, sounds like... Raymond Chandler!<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93732/I-Write-Like#3183438">8:48 AM</a> on July 14, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93724/We-know-you-youll-never-be-just-a-speck-of-light-again" target="_self">"We know you; you'll never be just a speck of light again."</a> <blockquote>So gorgeous. So remote! How does one respond to such images except to sigh... and maybe set a new wallpaper. <br> <br> <small>Speaking of sighing... when I was a kid we used to have this little two-person meme that went something like:<br> <br> "Where do you live?" "In my house"<br> "Where's your house?" "In New Delhi."<br> "Where's New Delhi?" "In India."<br> "Where's</small>… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93724/We-know-you-youll-never-be-just-a-speck-of-light-again#3182936">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93724/We-know-you-youll-never-be-just-a-speck-of-light-again#3182936">11:49 PM</a> on July 13, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93706/If-a-guy-wants-to-beat-his-wife-and-his-dog-bites-him-thats-between-the-three-of-em" target="_self">"If a guy wants to beat his wife and his dog bites him, that's between the three of 'em."</a> <blockquote>Wasn't that was Joan Baez 4 minutes 23 seconds in? <br> <br> As if this wasn't surreal enough...<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93706/If-a-guy-wants-to-beat-his-wife-and-his-dog-bites-him-thats-between-the-three-of-em#3182722">8:02 PM</a> on July 13, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who" target="_self">"If not now, when? If not us, who?"</a> <blockquote>Mek, that was very worthwhile reading and I never would've found it otherwise. Thank you for sharing!<br> <br> valkyryn, for real, the article does not blame Bush for everything. At most it highlights some things that happened while he was in office - and connects some dots between them. Mostly it's talking about the state US politics is in <em>right now</em>. Bush matters a lot in that equation, but he isn't being presented as "the one to blame". The… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who#3181329">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who#3181329">8:30 AM</a> on July 13, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><em>Paralyzing Obama’s agenda is definitely second-best to having defeated him.</em><br> <br> That is totally not how this is playing out thus far. Bush is not the tyrant in this picture; neither is the Republican party alone. It's the Republican ideology - toothless government, unregulated capitalism - and it is thriving. Consider health care, environmental reform, immigrant reform, financial reform... And then consider Fox News and talk radio.… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who#3181391">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who#3181391">8:58 AM</a> on July 13, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><em>His view is essential grounded in the idea that if we are just smart and patient then we can use the power of the government to solve problems. <br> </em><br> I don't think this is his view. The only thing he does seem to be assuming is that there are people who actually do want to act according to their ideology and not just for profit. So Obama got elected and it had something to do with people believing in what he was promising, even if Obama didn't (we don't… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who#3181486">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93690/If-not-now-when-If-not-us-who#3181486">9:44 AM</a> on July 13, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt" target="_self">Lather, rinse... revolt!</a> <blockquote>nadawi, I take your point, terse as it was. You'll note that at the very outset (and at the end), the author likens the environmental crisis to "Nazi Germany, Tsarist Russia, antebellum United States" - so his entire argument works within that comparison. Whether it's a valid comparison is a different debate, and one that I think is also very relevant here, but if you accept it, then personal change is clearly not a sufficient or even appropriate response. (On preview: this is also why… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177779">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177779">11:46 PM</a> on July 10, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>I was going to paste this excerpt into the original post, then didn't, so here goes :<blockquote>I want to be clear. I’m not saying we shouldn’t live simply. I live reasonably simply myself, but I don’t pretend that not buying much (or not driving much, or not having kids) is a powerful political act, or that it’s deeply revolutionary. It’s not. Personal change doesn’t equal social change.</blockquote> There is no invalidation going on here, I think. He's just arguing against conflating the two.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177790">12:03 AM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>divabat, don't discount talking to your citizen friends about the issues that affect you. They might not know what to do now, but if and when the opportunity presents itself - as in choosing between two representatives who feel differently about those issues - your voice will count. <br> <br> You don't have to tell them to go and do something about it; just talking about how it affects you will most likely make this remote issue much more real for them. Most political issues are… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177804">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177804">12:28 AM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>Ah, <strong>brennen</strong>, his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Jensen">Wikipedia entry</a> is very interesting; thanks for the heads up! I could definitely read anarchism in the article; missed the "primitivism" though. I think I'll pick up one of his books... any recommendations?<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177811">12:37 AM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>People who want to know more about where the author's coming from might find comment 28 on <a href="http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/discuss/4801/P24/">this page</a> interesting... the commenter has clearly been following the author's arguments across his other work, including but not limited to his books. He's addressing other comments directly, but you might find it interesting without having to follow who said what. <br> <br> <small>(Don't want to paste it here because it's long and I don't know the rules here regarding pasting large blocks of text from elsewhere.)</small><br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177857">2:27 AM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>Sonascope, thank you for articulating that so well. I think the entire "liberal movement" would do so well to get on the same page about what exactly it believes in -- fundamentally. The religious and the conservative are strong, I think, because they build on what they have in common (even when that commonality is mere greed) rather than the myriad ways in which they differ. On a daily basis, I see a great deal more solidarity among the conservatives than I ever do in the liberal… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177931">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177931">6:51 AM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>...And this, to me, is the most ironic stance of all: not having children. Okay, don't have kids if you don't want to, whatever your reasons may be - but to assume that that in any way mitigates your personal responsibility to other people's kids? Or that it's a <em>contribution</em>, as someone said above?<br> <br> You're contributing, literally, nothing. This is what the article is talking about - that this kind of liberalism is only about reducing harm. If not… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177933">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3177933">6:56 AM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>flabgabbet, I haven't raised any teenagers but I was one myself a few years ago, and I've known and taught several. Suffice it to say I agree neither with your broad assessment of teenage character nor with your inference about their love for commerce. In any case, my point was more about college students and recent grads (the ones who're fortunate enough to graduate without back-breaking loans) - sorry if that wasn't clear.<br> <br> Not having kids is not a contribution,… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178619">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178619">7:22 PM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>flabdablet, I could be driving a car with the lowest mileage available and still be using resources; I could be driving the biggest gas-guzzling monster and it's still just a sliding scale of consumption. Personally I don't do either - I don't drive. <em>But </em>that's not a contribution; not having a car does not create oxygen. It's just less harmful than the alternative. So, okay, you're reducing the amount of pressure on the earth's resources; that's great and worthwhile. It's… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178678">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178678">8:27 PM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>PS: That should've been "highest mileage," not lowest, in the first sentence.<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178685">8:31 PM</a> on July 11, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote>flabgabet, I didn't mean to imply that oxygen is non-renewable. What I was simply saying was: NOT doing something is not a contribution; it is a personal act of conservation that, while meaningful to you (and to me, for what its worth - I don't plan to have kids either) does not necessarily translate to actual benefit to another human being. What if all of what you conserve is used up by, I dnno, the big bad corporations that are already eating through everything? That's no reason not to do it,… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178919">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178919">3:57 AM</a> on July 12, 2010 </span> </blockquote> <blockquote><small>Ack, sorry for misspelling your name!</small><br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93630/Lather-rinse-revolt#3178922">4:04 AM</a> on July 12, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93596/Eighteen-Terabytes-of-Afghanistan" target="_self">Eighteen Terabytes of Afghanistan</a> <blockquote>Adam Curtis continues to rock my socks off. <br> <br> Thank you for this!<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93596/Eighteen-Terabytes-of-Afghanistan#3176925">12:41 AM</a> on July 10, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy"> <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93578/Well-You-Cant-Expect-the-Rich-to-Eat-Themselves" target="_self">Well, You Can't Expect the Rich to Eat Themselves</a> <blockquote>Pastabagel: <small>For the same reason I have zero patience for the "minority borrowers are to blame" Fox News bullshit, I have no patience for this. Only grown-ups can buy houses. And they buy them maybe three or four times in their whole life. It is the single most important financial decision of most people's lives. If you got screwed because you took someone's word about an mathematically verifiable fact about your money because you were too lazy to ruyn some numbers, then</small>… [<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93578/Well-You-Cant-Expect-the-Rich-to-Eat-Themselves#3176921">more</a>]<br> <span class="smallcopy">posted to MetaFilter by <a href="/user/106172" target="_self">mondaygreens</a></span> <span class="smallcopy">at <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/93578/Well-You-Cant-Expect-the-Rich-to-Eat-Themselves#3176921">12:26 AM</a> on July 10, 2010 </span> </blockquote> </div><br /> <div class="copy paging chromeleft">Page: <span class="this-page">1</span> <a href="/activity/106172/comments/mefi/2/" target="_self">2</a> <a href="/activity/106172/comments/mefi/3/" target="_self">3</a> <a href="/activity/106172/comments/mefi/4/" target="_self">4</a> </div> </div> <br clear="all"> <div id="footer"> <div style="width:20%;float:left;"><div class="footpad"> <p><strong>Features</strong></p> - <a href="https://login.metafilter.com/" target="_self">Login</a><br> - 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