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class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#"former_scheme""><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">"former scheme"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Property_value_list"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Property value list</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Documentation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Documentation"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Documentation"></span><span style="font-size:larger"><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Documentation</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Documentation"></span></h2></div> <p><strong class="error"><span class="scribunto-error mw-scribunto-error-691b374f">Lua error in Module:Property_documentation at line 1669: Entity not found.</span></strong></p><div dir="ltr">[<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Help:P7335&action=edit&preload=Template%3AProperty+documentation%2Fhelp+page+template"><span dir="ltr" lang="en">create</span></a> <span dir="ltr" lang="en">Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here</span>]</span></div><p><strong class="error"><span class="scribunto-error mw-scribunto-error-84e9b64a">Lua error in Module:Constraints at line 864: attempt to index local 'propertyentity' (a nil value).</span></strong> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mixer_shutting_down" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mixer_shutting_down-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mixer_shutting_down-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"></span>Mixer shutting down<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mixer_shutting_down-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P7335&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Mixer shutting down"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z-Mixer_shutting_down"></span>According to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299032/microsoft-mixer-closing-facebook-gaming-partnership-xcloud-features">The Verge</a>, Microsoft is closing Mixer on July 22. <a href="/wiki/User:Trivialist" title="User:Trivialist">Trivialist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trivialist" title="User talk:Trivialist"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z-Mixer_shutting_down" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 23 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z-Mixer_shutting_down"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z-Mixer_shutting_down"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jean-Frédéric-2020-06-23T14:44:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the info. These streaming services are going away as fast as they are coming…</dd> <dd>(Must say, I won’t shed a tear: Mixer was often conflating distinct video games that happen to share the same name)</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Fred</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User talk:Jean-Frédéric"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Jean-Frédéric-2020-06-23T14:44:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jean-Frédéric-2020-06-23T14:44:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jean-Frédéric-2020-06-23T14:44:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"></span>So, Is this property subject to deletion? -- <a href="/wiki/User:CptViraj" title="User:CptViraj"><b style="color:black">CptViraj</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CptViraj" title="User talk:CptViraj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 9 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z-Trivialist-2020-06-23T01:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-2020-09-12T20:48:00.000Z-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z"></span>AFAIK pretty much all streaming plstforms are just using the IGDB API. I've ad games appear on DLive shortly after their item was created@<a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric"><bdi>Jean-Frédéric</bdi></a>:--<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Trade-2020-09-12T20:48:00.000Z-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-2020-09-12T20:48:00.000Z-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-2020-09-12T20:48:00.000Z-CptViraj-2020-07-09T11:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""former_scheme"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"former_scheme"-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"><span id=".22former_scheme.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"former_scheme"-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"></span>"former scheme"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"former_scheme"-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P7335&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: "former scheme""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z-"former_scheme""></span>i think the appendix <i>”former scheme“</i> is a misnomer. It is the most recent scheme known. It's just that the site is not longer available. I would drop the appendix entirely since to does not disambiguate anything --<a href="/wiki/User:Shisma" title="User:Shisma">Shisma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shisma" title="User talk:Shisma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z-"former_scheme"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z-"former_scheme""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z-"former_scheme""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solidest-20230711115200-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Agree. It probably makes sense to use (archive) instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Solidest" title="User:Solidest">Solidest</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solidest" title="User talk:Solidest"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Solidest-20230711115200-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 11 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solidest-20230711115200-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solidest-20230711115200-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Agree 'former scheme' is misleading. Neutral on whether we need to have any suffix at all − but if we do 'archive' is probably fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Fred</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User talk:Jean-Frédéric"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800-Shisma-2021-03-07T12:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirilloparma-20230908010400-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600" /></span></span><b> Done</b>. I shortened it to its original (neutral) label. Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Kirilloparma" title="User:Kirilloparma">Kirilloparma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kirilloparma" title="User talk:Kirilloparma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Kirilloparma-20230908010400-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirilloparma-20230908010400-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirilloparma-20230908010400-Jean-Frédéric-20230711124800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Property_value_list" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property_value_list-20240311172400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property_value_list-20240311172400"></span>Property value list<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property_value_list-20240311172400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P7335&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Property value list"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mahir256-20240311172400-Property_value_list"></span>As a precursor to this property's deletion, <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P7335/oldvalues" title="Property talk:P7335/oldvalues">here</a> is a list of all values of this property that 1) are normal rank, 2) are unqualified, and 3) have a reference pointing to the Mixer.com API with a retrieval date. (Thus Q587775's value of "30789" is listed since it references "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://mixer.com/browse/games/30789">https://mixer.com/browse/games/30789</a>" with a retrieval date of 27 September 2019. <a href="/wiki/User:Mahir256" title="User:Mahir256">Mahir256</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mahir256" title="User talk:Mahir256"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Mahir256-20240311172400-Property_value_list" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mahir256-20240311172400-Property_value_list"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mahir256-20240311172400-Property_value_list"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirilloparma-20240312014200-Mahir256-20240311172400"></span>Thank you! Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Kirilloparma" title="User:Kirilloparma">Kirilloparma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kirilloparma" title="User talk:Kirilloparma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Kirilloparma-20240312014200-Mahir256-20240311172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirilloparma-20240312014200-Mahir256-20240311172400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirilloparma-20240312014200-Mahir256-20240311172400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirilloparma-20240312024600-Kirilloparma-20240312014200"></span>Additionally, I removed the remaining 400+ IDs (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YCZlQNnZ5JYpo8PWlgqRLEK4KPfXVsQZkGN9lJ29BGU/edit#gid=347352360">saved them</a> just in case) reducing now them to zero. Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Kirilloparma" title="User:Kirilloparma">Kirilloparma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kirilloparma" title="User talk:Kirilloparma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7335#c-Kirilloparma-20240312024600-Kirilloparma-20240312014200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirilloparma-20240312024600-Kirilloparma-20240312014200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirilloparma-20240312024600-Kirilloparma-20240312014200"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mahir256-20240312035100-Mahir256-20240311172400"></span>There are 18 further 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