results of HTML 5 text, editor, name questions from Dan Connolly on 2007-05-09 (public-html@w3.org from May 2007)

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The arguments behind the objections were concerns around the relationship to XForms <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0392.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0392.html</a> and the relationship to HTML4 and SGML <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0583.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0583.html</a> One of the objections was withdrawn, conditionally... "Is it permissible to stipulate that the question as posed was a clerical error and that it should have included the provision that it only applied if the WG's decision should happen to permit it within the practical limitations?" <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0591.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0591.html</a> Yes, let's stipulate that practical limitations are part of the question. Some of the objections around XForms were withdrawn as well. <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0646.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0646.html</a> . More importantly, productive discussion of XForms architecture and requirements has started. So while the survey results don't show consensus, it seems that we have a critical mass of support and a feasible means to address the remaining objections over time. We are resolved, then, that the W3C's next-generation HTML specification be named "HTML 5" and to start review of the text of the HTML 5 and WF2 specifications, and we welcome Ian Hickson and Dave Hyatt as editors (while remaining open to the possibility of other editors in the future). Ian, Dave, would you please take <a href="https://whatwg.org/html5">http://whatwg.org/html5</a> and <a href="https://whatwg.org/wf2">http://whatwg.org/wf2</a> and check them in under/near <a href="http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/html5/">http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/html5/</a> ? Please check in the version that was current as of 26 April discussion, rev785, as well as as many revisions since then that you like. The copyright will be jointly held by the contributing members and the W3C host institutions, as per the "Ownership of Copyrights and Patents" section of the W3C Membership agreement, to wit: "Except as provided above, patentable inventions and copyrighted materials developed jointly by MIT, ERCIM, KEIO and Member during the course of Consortium activities shall be jointly owned. Each joint owner shall be entitled to exercise all rights of ownership as provided by law, without, however, an obligation of accounting from one to the other. Member acknowledges that all such jointly owned inventions, software or other copyrightable materials, or materials owned by Member made available by Member for Consortium activities, will be made available to the general public ..." -- <a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/03/Member-Agreement">http://www.w3.org/2005/03/Member-Agreement</a> We'll soon begin a section-by-section group review of the specification, collecting issues (but not discussing them at length, nor necessarily resolving them right away). As Dan is travelling this week, and we don't have issue tracking tools in place just yet, we suggest taking the rest of week off from HTML WG email discussion. 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