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only thing these sand niggers understand is force and I’m about to introduce them to it.”</h2> <div id="search"><form method="get" id="searchform" action="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://gorillasguides.com/"> <div><input type="text" value="" name="s" id="s"/> <input type="submit" id="searchsubmit" value="Search"/> </div> </form> </div> </div> <hr/> <div id="content" class="span-13 append-1"> <div class="post clearfix" id="post-321"> <div class="postmetadata"><span class="comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://gorillasguides.com/2006/07/27/at-what-point-can-we-say-israel-is-a-terrorist-state/#comments" title="Comment on At What Point Can We Say “Israel Is A Terrorist State?”">3 Comments</a></span> Posted on July 27th, 2006 by markfromireland</div> <h3><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://gorillasguides.com/2006/07/27/at-what-point-can-we-say-israel-is-a-terrorist-state/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to At What Point Can We Say “Israel Is A Terrorist State?”">At What Point Can We Say “Israel Is A Terrorist State?”</a></h3> <p class="postmetadata">Category: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://gorillasguides.com/category/iraq/" title="View all posts in News" rel="category tag">News</a>, Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/previous-site/" rel="tag">Previous Site</a></p> <div class="entry" dir="rtl" align="right"> <p><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240im_/http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5613/1565/320/ramon.jpg" height="125" width="90"/>Meet <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haim_Ramon" title="Link to Wikipedia article on Haim Ramon -new window" class="external" target="_blank">Haim Ramon</a>. He’s Israel’s minister for justice. He used to be in the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_%28Israel%29" title="Link to Wikipedia article - new window" class="external" target="_blank">Israeli Labour Party</a> but ditched them for <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadima" title="Link to Wikipedia article - new window" class="external" target="_blank">Kadima</a> when <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon" title="Link to wikipedia article on sharon - new window" class="external" target="_blank">Ariel Sharon</a>, the man the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahan_Commission" title="Link to Kahan commission article on wikipedia - new window" class="external" target="_blank">Kahan commission</a><strong>*</strong> found to be responsible for the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre" title="Link to wikipedia article on Sabra and Shatila -new window" class="external" target="_blank">mass murder of civilians at Sabra and Shatila refugee camps</a> the last time Israel invaded Lebanon left Likud and founded Kadima. He’s generally reckoned to be very close to Israel’s Prime minister <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehud_Olmert" title="Wikepedia article 'Ehud Olmert' - new window" class="external" target="_blank">Ehud Olmert</a>. Note Ramon’s branch of service. Like Donald Rumsfeld he’s an Air Force man in Ramon’s case he never made it beyond captain. Not a particularly impressive record. This is what he had to say today on Israeli Army Radio:</p> <blockquote><p> “We received yesterday in the Rome conference permission, in effect, from the world, part of it gritting its teeth and part of it granting its blessing, to continue the operation, this war, until Hezbollah’s presence is erased in Lebanon and it is disarmed,” <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaking/story.asp?j=4044015&p=4x44x3x&n=4044107&x=" title="irish Examiner - new window" class="external" target="_blank">Source</a> </p></blockquote> <p>But that’s not all he this charming gentleman said, he said much more. He said that Israel had given more than enough warning to the civilians living in South Lebanon to leave and that:</p> <blockquote><p>“All those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah,” <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaking/story.asp?j=190331952&p=y9x33z658&n=190332712" title="Irish examiner new window" class="external" target="_blank">Source</a></p></blockquote> <p>That would of course include all those women, children, and other civilians who <strong><em>can’t</em></strong> get out of Southern Lebanon because Israel has bombed all the roads and bridges. As well as bombing refugee convoys and ambulances and UN positions of course. How long do we have to wait before we can openly call this man and his colleagues terrorists bent on mass murder of civilians? At what point does the rest of the world turn round to his American paymasters and tell them that their hands are dripping with the blood of women and children? At what point is it going to occur to the American and Israeli peoples that they are going to reap what this man has just announced they are going to sow?</p> <p>At what point can we say “Israel Is A Terrorist State?” Now, we can say it now. This man has announced a terrorist campaign. He’s the minister for justice. He’s close to the prime minister. We can and should say it now.</p> <blockquote><p>“Israel is a terrorist state.”</p></blockquote> <p>markfromireland</p> <p><strong>Notes: *</strong>The Kahan commission was headed by the then President of the Israel’s Supreme Court, Yitzhak Kahan. The other two members were Supreme Court Justice Aharon Barak (who announced his resignation from the Supreme court last May) , and a reserve Major-General Yona Erfat. – MFI</p> </div> </div> <hr/>  <h3 id="comments">3 Responses to “At What Point Can We Say “Israel Is A Terrorist State?””</h3> <div class="comment clearfix" id="comment-1321"> <div class="gravatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://www.blogger.com/profile/8056444" rel="external nofollow" class="url external" target="_blank">Richard</a> on July 27th, 2006 4:48 pm: <p><p>Mark, you’re one of the best, and the most determined, honest, consistently honest – to mention but a few.</p> <p>Though I’ve not commented on your posts recently, due to several reasons [too many to go into right now] I always follow your posts.</p> <p>Thanks for your support too. With regard to the Old brit’s first [obvious] troll, I’m sure I recognise him from your other blog. I’ll check later over there & comment further.</p> </p> </div> </div> <hr/> <div class="comment clearfix" id="comment-1322"> <div class="gravatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://www.blogger.com/profile/3671810" rel="external nofollow" class="url external" target="_blank">Dr. C</a> on July 27th, 2006 7:16 pm: <p><p>MFI,<br/> Note that two Belgium citizens have entered a war crimes complaint in Belgium courts (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-07-27T085451Z_01_L27557477_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-LEBANON-BELGIUM.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-9" rel="nofollow" class="external" target="_blank">http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-07-27T085451Z_01_L27557477_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-LEBANON-BELGIUM.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-9</a>)<br/> Apparently the law in Belgium allows one to enter such complaints no matter where they occur.</p> </p> </div> </div> <hr/> <div class="comment clearfix" id="comment-1323"> <div class="gravatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://www.blogger.com/profile/12826093" rel="external nofollow" class="url external" target="_blank">markfromireland</a> on July 27th, 2006 8:11 pm: <p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-07-27T085451Z_01_L27557477_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-LEBANON-BELGIUM.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-9" rel="nofollow" class="external" target="_blank">http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-07-27T085451Z_01_L27557477_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-LEBANON-BELGIUM.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-9</a></p> <p>Doc thanks today’s been a little hectic for me so I haven’t even begun to look at Reuters yet. The other one to note is Kofi Annan’s (correct) description of the attacks on the UN post as being apparently intentional. It’s a crime under international law to intentionally attack UN forces. <strong>An extraditable crime.</strong></p> </p> </div> </div> <hr/> <h3 id="respond">Leave a Reply</h3> <form action="https://web.archive.org/web/20120516032240/http://gorillasguides.com/wp-comments-post.php" method="post" id="commentform"> <p class="form-row"> <label for="author">Name</label> <input type="text" name="author" id="author" value="" size="22" tabindex="1"/> <em>(required)</em> </p> <p class="form-row"> <label for="email">Mail (will not be published)</label> <input type="text" name="email" id="email" value="" size="22" tabindex="2"/> <em>(required)</em> </p> <p class="form-row"> <label for="url">Website</label> <input type="text" name="url" id="url" value="" size="22" tabindex="3"/> </p>  <p class="form-row"> <label for="comment">Comment</label> <textarea name="comment" id="comment" cols="20" rows="10" tabindex="4"></textarea> </p> <p><input name="submit" type="submit" id="submit" tabindex="5" 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