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like we always used to do.<br /><br />I'll let him speak to what he intended, but my idea of stable is to keep <br />the features of 2.6.0 in 2.6.N for any value of N. Adding new stuff <br />rapidly hasn't been nearly the problem people feared, but that's largely <br />due to the efforts of akpm to act as throttle, and somehow get more <br />people to try his versions and knock the corners off the new code before <br />it goes mainline.<br /><br />I do think the old model was better; by holding down major changes for <br />six months or so after a new even release came out, people had a chance <br />to polich the stable release, and developers had time to recharge their <br />batteries so to speak, and to sit and think about what they wanted to <br />do, without feeling the pressure to write code and submit it right away. <br />Knowing that there's no place to send code for six months is a great aid <br />to generating GOOD code.<br /><br />The other advantage of a development tree was that features could be <br />added and removed without the argument that it would break this or that. <br />It was development, no one was supposed to use it for production, no one <br />could claim that there was even an implied promise of things working or <br />even existing. ipchains could have gone out of 2.6 with no more fuss <br />than xiafs departing. The people who really want it stay with the old <br />kernel.<br /><br />To a large extent -mm has become the development kernel, and as neat as <br />that is, a development model which depends on a small number of <br />dedicated and talented people to make it work is fragile.<br /><br />Just my thoughts, I think we had it right before, I think it's less <br />inherently stable now.<br /><br />-- <br /> -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)<br />"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the<br /> last possible moment - but no longer" -me<br />-<br />To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in<br />the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org<br />More majordomo info at <a href="http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html">http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html</a><br />Please read the FAQ at <a href="http://www.tux.org/lkml/">http://www.tux.org/lkml/</a><br /><br /></pre></td><td width="32" rowspan="2" class="c" valign="top"><img src="/images/icornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom"> 聽 </td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom">聽</td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerl.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td><td class="c">聽</td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="/" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"> 聽 </td><td class="lm">Last update: 2005-12-06 00:06 聽聽 [from the cache]<br />漏2003-2020 <a href="http://blog.jasper.es/"><span itemprop="editor">Jasper Spaans</span></a>|hosted at <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=9a8e99d24cf9">Digital Ocean</a> and my Meterkast|<a href="http://blog.jasper.es/categories.html#lkml-ref">Read the blog</a></td><td>聽</td></tr></table><script language="javascript" src="/js/styleswitcher.js" type="text/javascript"></script></body></html>