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Each draws its bias from the other&#039;s collector leg (like an SR flip-flop). As far as I can tell the resistors are adjusted so you need to apply the positive supply first and then the negative polarity. 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Oct 9, 2024 at 6:15 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">First of all, the PNP is vital. It turns On as a result of bias being pulled negative. When the PNP turns On it carries positive polarity supply to the rest of your amplifier.<br /> <br /> Secondly, by arranging the two NPN as an SR flip-flop, it stays idle until both positive and negative supplies are present and healthy and stable... Only then it applies &#039;snap-action&#039; switch-On effect for the PNP.<br /> <br /> It&#039;s not obvious inside the orange circle although the two cross-biased transistors form the classic SR flip-flop. Someone added the resistor network designed so that -12V at one leg causes a change of state.<br /> <div class="kl_amdp_merge_message"> --- Updated <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-10-09T19:24:49+0100" data-time="1728498289" data-date-string="Oct 9, 2024" data-time-string="7:24 PM" title="Oct 9, 2024 at 7:24 PM">Oct 9, 2024</time> --- </div><br /> Classic SR flip-flop. It requires experimentation to discover what causes a change of state and what doesn&#039;t cause a change of state. Different topologies abound such as pulling a bias wire high, or using PNP type, or making it into an astable multivibrator, or monostable, etc.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="RS flip flop two NPN&#039;s momen sw to gnd.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/rs-flip-flop-two-npns-momen-sw-to-gnd-png.194525/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/rs-flip-flop-two-npns-momen-sw-to-gnd-png.194525/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="RS flip flop two NPN&#039;s momen sw to gnd.png" title="RS flip flop two NPN&#039;s momen sw to gnd.png" width="394" height="410" loading="lazy" /> </div></div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">&nbsp;</div> </article> </div> <div class="message-lastEdit"> Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-10-09T19:24:49+0100" data-time="1728498289" data-date-string="Oct 9, 2024" data-time-string="7:24 PM" title="Oct 9, 2024 at 7:24 PM" itemprop="dateModified">Oct 9, 2024</time> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="message-actionBar actionBar"> <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external"> <a href="/threads/converting-power-supply-signal-into-pulse-signal.412641/reply?quote=1781950" class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" title="Reply, quoting this message" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="quote" data-quote-href="/posts/1781950/quote">Reply</a> </div> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--vote"> <div class="message-column"> <div class="contentVote js-contentVote " data-xf-init="content-vote" data-content-id="post-1781950"> <meta itemprop="upvoteCount" content="0" /> <a href="javascript:" class="contentVote-vote is-disabled contentVote-vote--up " data-vote="up"><span class="u-srOnly">Upvote</span></a> <span class="contentVote-score js-voteCount" data-score="0">0</span> <a href="javascript:" class="contentVote-vote is-disabled contentVote-vote--down " data-vote="down"><span class="u-srOnly">Downvote</span></a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="yefj" data-content="post-1782025" id="js-post-1782025" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Answer" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/posts/1782025/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/threads/converting-power-supply-signal-into-pulse-signal.412641/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1782025"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/converting-power-supply-signal-into-pulse-signal.412641/post-1782025" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-10-11T16:29:26+0100" data-time="1728660566" data-date-string="Oct 11, 2024" data-time-string="4:29 PM" title="Oct 11, 2024 at 4:29 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Oct 11, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/converting-power-supply-signal-into-pulse-signal.412641/post-1782025" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1782025/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/converting-power-supply-signal-into-pulse-signal.412641/post-1782025" rel="nofollow"> #8 </a> </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/members/yefj.624287/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.edaboard.com/members/yefj.624287/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/yefj.624287/" class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="624287" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" style="background-color: #47a329; 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Flip-flops are easily built from logic gate IC&#039;s, and their operation is more easily grasped. <br /> <br /> The reason to include transistors in your power supply is because the rails contain positive polarity and negative polarity, which both must be recognized by your timed logic function, and which both must be turned Off and On with greater current than little op amps or logic gates can handle.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">&nbsp;</div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="message-actionBar actionBar"> <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external"> <a href="/threads/converting-power-supply-signal-into-pulse-signal.412641/reply?quote=1782042" class="actionBar-action 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In any case recall there&#039;s the start-up sequence and shut-down sequence for your 2W amplifier IC. Can you still achieve the proper sequence?<br /> <br /> For instance I believe you wish to shut off all supply rails at any time one polarity is absent. Do you wish to resume power to both polarities as soon as both are present? What if your connector has scratchy contacts? What if frequent use creates a bad wire connection? Isn&#039;t the aim to save a $100 IC?<br /> <br /> Another thing... 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In any case recall there's the start-up sequence and shut-down sequence for your 2W amplifier IC. Can you still achieve the proper sequence?\n\nFor instance I believe you wish to shut off all supply rails at any time one polarity is absent. Do you wish to resume power to both polarities as soon as both are present? What if your connector has scratchy contacts? What if frequent use creates a bad wire connection? Isn't the aim to save a $100 IC?\n\nAnother thing... Can a single schmitt trigger act on a combination of positive and negative polarities, or do you need two schmitt triggers?", "upvoteCount": 0, "author": { "@type": "Person", "@id": "https://www.edaboard.com/members/bradtherad.423852/", "name": "BradtheRad", "url": "https://www.edaboard.com/members/bradtherad.423852/" } }, { "@type": "Answer", "datePublished": "2024-10-17T17:42:58+00:00", "url": "https://www.edaboard.com/posts/1782389/", "text": "Hello Brad ,how could I convert my non idial +12V -12V into sharp pulses using the shmidt trigger structure i found below?\nThanks.", "upvoteCount": 0, "author": { "@type": "Person", "@id": "https://www.edaboard.com/members/yefj.624287/", "name": "yefj", "url": "https://www.edaboard.com/members/yefj.624287/" } }, { "@type": "Answer", "datePublished": "2024-10-12T17:23:32+00:00", "url": "https://www.edaboard.com/posts/1782075/", "text": "Hello Brad, Is there a way to use a reset IC to make this idea work?\nThanks.\n\nYou said you wanted to \"make a pulse\", but it looks like you want enable the power supplies, is that right?I'm just not clear what you're trying to do.", "upvoteCount": 0, "author": { "@type": "Person", "@id": "https://www.edaboard.com/members/barry.35520/", "name": "barry", "url": "https://www.edaboard.com/members/barry.35520/" } } ] }, "publisher": { "@type": "Organization", "name": "Forum for Electronics", "description": "International Electronics Discussion Forum: EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals", "url": "https://www.edaboard.com" } } </script> <script> $(function(){ var notice = $('.xb-welcome-notice'); if(notice.length){ var cookie = XF.Cookie.get('hide_welcome_notice'); if(!cookie){ XF.Cookie.set('hide_welcome_notice', Date.now()); notice.show(); } else if ((Date.now() - cookie) > 8.64e+7){ XF.Cookie.set('hide_welcome_notice', Date.now()); notice.show(); } else { notice.hide(); } } }); </script> </div> </body> </html>

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