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Coming to grips with such images may turn out to be a particularly baffling experience for the Platonic reader, especially when one attempts to draw a coherent picture of Socrates’ personality and conduct at the trial in the light of the various forms of self-representation proposed in the text. In fact, one might entertain the impression that different voices and attitudinal approaches are unleashed from one and the same character, and also that these might not provide an internally consistent portrait of his own professed values, abilities, and epistemological limitations. For instance, some images convey the idea of a shameless and boastful Socrates (cf. Apology 30d and 31a, where he describes himself as a gift of god, or 28b-29d, where he compares his own condition to the one experienced by the Homeric hero Achilles), whereas others express the view that Socrates is a man aware of his own limits and, what is more, one respectful of divine signs and messages (cf. 21b). 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